I trained Taekwondo and Shotokan karate. I've won trophies in individual championships( open and weight categories ) and team champions. Both are beautiful sports,
From what I could see, I think it is "American" Taekwondo, a federation that combines WTF and ITF, I say it because on the back it does not have the logo of the fundamental tree of Taekwon-Do ITF, the front logo also looks more like a triangle (American Taekwon-Do logo) different from the ITF logo.
@Codex_Frog in some of the Karate styles it's reserved for the founding master. In the Japanese Karate Association it's actually possible to become a 10th Dan Shotokan master but it's also nearly impossible at the same time. Some people achieved it, mostly karatekas studying directly under Funakoshi Gichin or under some of his direct disciples.
As i am very close to testing for my black belt after almost 7 years, I can confirm that (at least my style which is shotokan) takes much longer to get a rank on that taekwondo.
Respect to both fighters! In this match, I do believe that the Shoto-kan practitioner is better than the Tae Kwon do practitioner. But that said, I would not stand a chance against either! haha
Pardon me, But this is labeled ITF vs Karate.. this guy is not ITF, uniform is similar but not the same. It is not the marital art that prevails, it is the martial artist
Shotokan karate is the best martial kart art not only for training, but for self defense. I’m doing shotokan karate for more than 4 years and I can say, it was the best decision I’ve ever took to start shotokan karate.
I sadly stopped after 10 years i immediately left after i got my black belt i might consider training once again i just understood the importance of martial arts rn i lost all flexibility
@@PoHMMORPG you only have to work! I'm well placed ti say it to you. I began in 1991 and stopped in 1999 with a blue belt grade. I've decided to return in 2015. Can you imagine that? 16 years after! Returning is the best decision i've always taken in my live! Now i'm shodan and i'm a better karateka than in my young age.
The guy in ITF Uniform is NOT ITF. We identify our Doboks with ITF logo everywhere, he doesn't wear the ITF Patch, the ITF Pants and the ITF Tree on the back.
He's not ITF his Dobok is wrong. The screen printing on the back of his jacket is NOT ITF, nor is that an ITF Logo on the Front, and his Mannerisms' and ring protocols are just Not ITF. Not bowing, sleeves rolled up. He's definitely Not ITF.
When did it become normal in TKD to keep your hands down like that? It has been a number of years since I competed, but we never dropped our guard like that. I have been watching a few videos of late as I am now getting back into training and noticed this trend. That and the bouncing around..
Dropping hands to sides is effective in blocking an inside Crescent kick to the head from the clinched position. Punch to the have is not allowed. There is no need to keep the hands up.
depends on your fighting style really. the lower guard works better if you and your opponent do a lot of kicking, (my guess is as its closer to the ground so easier to block)
@@aliefputrahartanto8179 I studied and taught for decades. I was a WUKU trained referee and judge who officiated at one World Championship and two World Cups. How about you?
the back part of the itf uniform is missing, and all of the itf practitioner use the same dobok or gi as u guys know it. i may sound salty to all of u but just search itf uniform and compare it to his they sorta look similar but they arent
The style is that they kick more in "WTF" TKD. In "ITF" TKD there’s more punching than in "WTF" but it still has more kicking priority in both Korean arts. In Japanese Karate There’s a bit more punching rather than kicking possibly equal amount of both. My guess would be that Japanese karate has 50/50 of punching/kicking. In Korean art of taekwondo "WTF" has 10/90 but “ITF” 40/60.. Also, notice the Korean style has a bit more bounce in there. While karate is more stationary with even slight bouncing.
As you can see from the helmet the tkd guy is using, he is either a young person, has not sparred a lot, or is a new black belt. The helmet with the plastic protector at the front is mostly used by people under 15, and most over that start using mouthpieces and headgear with no face shield. Still tho, respect for both of them, no matter who won or lost🔥🔥🔥
Although ITF TKD is more solid than WTF, they still lower their hands and trust too much in their high kicks. Also ITF TKD tries a lot of unsuccessful actions and their punching seems desperate, flinging arms in a desperate way. Shotokan is a lot sharper than ITF TKD, but they tend to lack in continuity as they fight since they usually stop after a point is scored.
your analysis is completely wrong and ignorant. it depends on the fighter and not the style. some shotokan guys have VERY low guards. and most ITF guys keep their hands up. the ITF guy in this video is simply not good. most Taekwon-Do in USA is awful.
Francisco González Ramírez it's time to do homework. Of the 12 creators of the KTA, 2 were black belts in shotokan, one 2nd the other 4th. And the reason everyone is getting all taekwon-do's mixed up is because of the splinter groups, each person claims their tkd is the real one, which in a way they all are, just some better organized than others. A couple guys tried to unite Korea through martial arts. South Korea deported one for a fact, and erased his name from their books. General Choi Hong Hi, being the one I know a little more about since he's who I myself am a descendant of as far as one of my belts. And I used to be real defensive of ITF but due to all the confusion and disorganization regarding some groups and a boat load of research I'm finding out that just like the Chinese, Koreans tend to exaggerate or twist stories to make themselves seem better. Almost a mythical hero in a sense. And as far as dropping the hands that's generally a WTF thing. In my dojang if you drop your hands you will be hit in the face, and if you raise your hands too high you are going to take it to the rib. All arts should avoid being closed minded, all arts highly depend on the student themselves. I only found out after a decade that I prefer grappling over striking, but I know some grapples who wish they started with a striking art. Different body types are obviously going to be better used in different arts. And the better a fighter the more varied they tend to be. Thus MMA (which original tkd is a mixed art, the founders had diverse documented backgrounds.)
@@scarred10 No, I don't think he was. He kept letting the Karate guy come in. Proper movement and a good lead leg side kick would have stopped the other guy.
I like Shotokan karate the most because it suits my taste of style, but Kyokushin is definitely the most hardcore karate there is for many reasons. I also think ITF is an acceptable all around art. Also maybe it’s not so much the art but the persons passion and natural talent after learning the art. It’s kind of like how not anyone can be a great painter simply because they’ve been doing it in a school. Also, I don’t have to be a professional painter to know whether a painting is a good painting.
Although I love karate and I practice shotokan karate I kan see the karateka uses the basic puches and kick of karate I don't really see him useing the more advanced karate puches and kick and block's although he didn't really have to use it to win the taekwondo fighter I just think if he used the more advance tecniques the teakwondo fighter wouldn't have got so many puches and kicks in.
ITF guy was not so bad, but was too cautious, something that the karate guy capitalized on since the begining of the video, ITF guy should be more confident, also in ITF Patterns they work sweeps so, i belive the lack of confidence in his skills made a difference in the fight
@@ezemeza1363 Error, in tournaments it is not seen, but it is very common in training the combats with low kick techniques ( the legs) even occasional sweeping.
Also, he's not an ITF guy. You can tell via the uniform. It's got no ITF markings or insignia. It bears a superficial resemblance to ITF uniforms ( the piping up the leg) but beyond that doesn't have the ITF tree logo or the ITF insignia on the pants. He's not ITF, at all. He may be ATA? I can't say for sure.
I would not say either system is better than another but the Shodokan fighter fought a lot smarter . His kicks had a lot more to it and his punches were define where the TKD was punching Wild and just placing lazy kicks I TF/ Am/ WTF isn’t at fault his own training is.
У каратиста отличные тайминги. Представитель ткд явно теряется. Ему что бы преодолеть отставания в скорости явно нужно осуществить очень мощный вход который приведет к полному контакту, что бы подавить оппонента и судя по типу их поединка (по правилам олимпийского каратэ) он получит предупреждение за подобное
Zen Tuazon maybe not in sparring but kyokushin does not even punch on the head like shotokan does So shotokan will be more effectief on head knockout while kyokushin doesnt And shotokan kase ha will probbaly also get a quik knock out by one of the chops Of course this all my opinion.
Lexxus8324 no you dont get trained for points if you do im pritty sure youre in a mac dojo karate is not about points or fighting its about self defense and willing to do what you need to do to keep you and youre family safe
He's definitely not ITF Taekwon Do, nor does he know the rules very well of this Karate Tournament. He hasn't trained properly for this tournament, and hence lost.
Yes, in itf tournaments the moves are allowed, but also it may be because the one who did karate trained for longer, as most people in karate do compared to taekwondo
Foi um bom combate, mas faltou um pouco mais de objetividade e técnica para ambos os lados por isto os arbitros tiveram dificuldades para marcar os pontos, mas no final quem venceu foi o esporte. Oss
The TKD guy is NOT an ITF person. Also, he keeps letting the karate guy come in on him. Why???!!! It also looks like he cannot kick. He only kicks AFTER the other gut kicks. He never initiates. He does not use kicks to dominate the action and maintain distance. A good lead leg side kick would help him immensely.
martial arts style are like math 1+9=10 ,2+8=10, 30-20=10 so in other word there is no great or powerful style to win same as number there is no great or other way for a number to add or subtract to have the answer 10
I also think he wasn't a very good fighter. Come on, lift a leg and keep it in the air!?!? They do that in TKD tournaments , but this time he's fighting a karateka, he had to be more careful of the rules.
This match only matters to the competitors. These two men don't represent the top level people from both arts. So there's no way this is a example of whether Shotokan or Taekwondo are the superior martial art.
Lo siento pero ese man no sabe pelear una kga hasta un cinta blanca le gana, literalmente como va a hacer una patada alta a tan corta distancia. Ombe que aprenda a pelear
This is itf taekwondo uniform but i think he is not a taekwondo expert. Teakwondo is very good martial arts. If you want to know more plz watch my channel
en el tkd estan menos acostumbrados a dar golpes de puño y ademas no dan patadas bajas como en el karate , aunque se muevan mas rapido que los karatekas , los estilos de tkd tienen que dar patadas potentes , impactantes y mas efectivas si quieren ser mejores que su antesesor el shotokan
in real fight you cant really use the high kick in taekwondo, karate is more useful because of combination of kick, punch, blocks and take down. overall karate is more useful in real life street fight or self defense
Las artes marciales mas sobrevaloradas en un mismo sitio (No me pueden negar que todo el mundo apoya al itf y son los que dicen que los otros estilos no sirven, y el karate es karate, no hace falta decir porque todo el mundo piensa que es el mejor de todos)
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I trained Taekwondo and Shotokan karate. I've won trophies in individual championships( open and weight categories ) and team champions. Both are beautiful sports,
Respect to both fighters. Each respecting their styles with high confidence. Good job!
From what I could see, I think it is "American" Taekwondo, a federation that combines WTF and ITF, I say it because on the back it does not have the logo of the fundamental tree of Taekwon-Do ITF, the front logo also looks more like a triangle (American Taekwon-Do logo) different from the ITF logo.
What did I think of WTF 😂
@@senapatiarts7408 wtf bro
This can’t be the case, ATA has ATA plastered over the back of their uniforms
I have studied both styles and they are both effective methods. It takes longer to gain rank in karate.
Yep can confirm
Is 10 Dan the highest rank in Karate? As I do ITF Taekwondo and 9th Dan is the highest rank that is in that
@Codex_Frog in some of the Karate styles it's reserved for the founding master. In the Japanese Karate Association it's actually possible to become a 10th Dan Shotokan master but it's also nearly impossible at the same time. Some people achieved it, mostly karatekas studying directly under Funakoshi Gichin or under some of his direct disciples.
As i am very close to testing for my black belt after almost 7 years, I can confirm that (at least my style which is shotokan) takes much longer to get a rank on that taekwondo.
@@Bracken_my_beloved thats good, ive been doing karate for 5 years or something, i have like 2-3 belts until getting black belt, its hard
This is literally one of the best point fighting videos ive ever seen, good job!
Search on youtube Wkf karate best moments and see there the real masters!
This isn't point fighting!
@@olderthanyoucali8512 uh. Ok
He who practices taekwondo does not honor the style
Respect to both fighters! In this match, I do believe that the Shoto-kan practitioner is better than the Tae Kwon do practitioner. But that said, I would not stand a chance against either! haha
Pardon me,
But this is labeled ITF vs Karate.. this guy is not ITF, uniform is similar but not the same. It is not the marital art that prevails, it is the martial artist
Shotokan karate is the best martial kart art not only for training, but for self defense.
I’m doing shotokan karate for more than 4 years and I can say, it was the best decision I’ve ever took to start shotokan karate.
I sadly stopped after 10 years i immediately left after i got my black belt i might consider training once again i just understood the importance of martial arts rn i lost all flexibility
I underestimated shotokan
@@PoHMMORPG you only have to work! I'm well placed ti say it to you. I began in 1991 and stopped in 1999 with a blue belt grade. I've decided to return in 2015. Can you imagine that? 16 years after! Returning is the best decision i've always taken in my live! Now i'm shodan and i'm a better karateka than in my young age.
shotokan WINS..!!!
No
Yes
And no
YES
No
i dont know about TKD, but i do Shotokan, and this guy is so good
Both great styles. It's not the style that wins, it's the artist.
1:30 Damn I can't explain how shook I am that was the best move I've ever seen from a Karate fighter 😮🤯😆
Really? clearly you have not seen many Karate-Ka's in competition.
Karate have so much moves like Judo because both came from the same place. Karate is very dinamic.
Ooh good thing the karate person didnt forgot the bow
Before leaving the mat
Not bad, open karate rules is my favorite.
I am BB in both TKD and Karate.
Both are great if you can implement them when it counts.
Is a Treger Martial Arts Tournament basically a local tournament? If yes...I understand the skill level of the 2 competitors.
The guy in ITF Uniform is NOT ITF. We identify our Doboks with ITF logo everywhere, he doesn't wear the ITF Patch, the ITF Pants and the ITF Tree on the back.
Damn....you're right. He's not ITF at all. Whew....I can breathe easier now.
He's not ITF his Dobok is wrong. The screen printing on the back of his jacket is NOT ITF, nor is that an ITF Logo on the Front, and his Mannerisms' and ring protocols are just Not ITF. Not bowing, sleeves rolled up. He's definitely Not ITF.
The TKD guy wants to just do a sucker punch because he was swept down 😂
When did it become normal in TKD to keep your hands down like that? It has been a number of years since I competed, but we never dropped our guard like that. I have been watching a few videos of late as I am now getting back into training and noticed this trend. That and the bouncing around..
It’s not supposed to be normal, they just kinda do ir
Thats the best method for a light contact point based ruleset,its always been the style for that.
Dropping hands to sides is effective in blocking an inside Crescent kick to the head from the clinched position. Punch to the have is not allowed. There is no need to keep the hands up.
depends on your fighting style really. the lower guard works better if you and your opponent do a lot of kicking, (my guess is as its closer to the ground so easier to block)
shotokan karate is best win
No
I dont agree
yes
Off course..many point gained..
ese 4 to dan donde lo compro ?
Sorry what rules they used? 🤔
The new "bouncy" style is not the Shotokan that I learned 40 years ago.
But the bouncing does help with mobility
@@zenyxx9789 And reduces power.
@@gwine9087 it really does reduce power but if it were to be combined with the traditional footwork and the bouncing it will become deadly
@@gwine9087 maybe u not learn it enough
@@aliefputrahartanto8179 I studied and taught for decades. I was a WUKU trained referee and judge who officiated at one World Championship and two World Cups. How about you?
the back part of the itf uniform is missing, and all of the itf practitioner use the same dobok or gi as u guys know it.
i may sound salty to all of u but just search itf uniform and compare it to his they sorta look similar but they arent
You are correct, I just made a comment about it as a ITF practitioner, we wear the ITF logo everywhere in our Dobok. This guy is NOT ITF.
Good fight but I the TKD guy relied too much on his high kicks.
As his style tends to do.
not even. he missed a couple openings for some kicks and that was his down fall
The style is that they kick more in "WTF" TKD. In "ITF" TKD there’s more punching than in "WTF" but it still has more kicking priority in both Korean arts. In Japanese Karate There’s a bit more punching rather than kicking possibly equal amount of both.
My guess would be that Japanese karate has 50/50 of punching/kicking. In Korean art of taekwondo "WTF" has 10/90 but “ITF” 40/60..
Also, notice the Korean style has a bit more bounce in there. While karate is more stationary with even slight bouncing.
He didn't do any kicking that I could see.
it may be TKD competition ruleset, where head kicks score 3 points
As you can see from the helmet the tkd guy is using, he is either a young person, has not sparred a lot, or is a new black belt. The helmet with the plastic protector at the front is mostly used by people under 15, and most over that start using mouthpieces and headgear with no face shield. Still tho, respect for both of them, no matter who won or lost🔥🔥🔥
The Karate Fighter did a good job!
Πάω 6 χρόνια shotokan karate😘😍
What rule are they sparring in?
Karate shotokan
Tae kwon do - leg
Shotokan - both
Ooooo that uro-mawashigeri at 1:19 almost hit that taekwondo guy straight in the face!! That would have been game over!! Great fright! 👊🏼🥋🤙🏼
Although ITF TKD is more solid than WTF, they still lower their hands and trust too much in their high kicks. Also ITF TKD tries a lot of unsuccessful actions and their punching seems desperate, flinging arms in a desperate way. Shotokan is a lot sharper than ITF TKD, but they tend to lack in continuity as they fight since they usually stop after a point is scored.
Francisco González Ramírez
Well said bro! People need to be taught the truth about traditional styles.
Francisco González Ramírez this dude is not ITF sorry to burst your bubble, so don't judge the art by a poor fighter
your analysis is completely wrong and ignorant.
it depends on the fighter and not the style. some shotokan guys have VERY low guards. and most ITF guys keep their hands up.
the ITF guy in this video is simply not good. most Taekwon-Do in USA is awful.
Francisco González Ramírez it's time to do homework. Of the 12 creators of the KTA, 2 were black belts in shotokan, one 2nd the other 4th. And the reason everyone is getting all taekwon-do's mixed up is because of the splinter groups, each person claims their tkd is the real one, which in a way they all are, just some better organized than others.
A couple guys tried to unite Korea through martial arts. South Korea deported one for a fact, and erased his name from their books. General Choi Hong Hi, being the one I know a little more about since he's who I myself am a descendant of as far as one of my belts. And I used to be real defensive of ITF but due to all the confusion and disorganization regarding some groups and a boat load of research I'm finding out that just like the Chinese, Koreans tend to exaggerate or twist stories to make themselves seem better. Almost a mythical hero in a sense.
And as far as dropping the hands that's generally a WTF thing. In my dojang if you drop your hands you will be hit in the face, and if you raise your hands too high you are going to take it to the rib. All arts should avoid being closed minded, all arts highly depend on the student themselves. I only found out after a decade that I prefer grappling over striking, but I know some grapples who wish they started with a striking art. Different body types are obviously going to be better used in different arts. And the better a fighter the more varied they tend to be. Thus MMA (which original tkd is a mixed art, the founders had diverse documented backgrounds.)
what the fuck TKD lol get it WTF
What a shocker....the tag fighter won during a tag tournament. I'd like to see how long he'd last in a USTF or ITF tournament and rules.
But ...to be honest ..the ITF guy was a terrible fighter. That's the real reason he lost.
Sorry .the guy with an ITF looking uniform that wasn't actually an ITF guy.
@@davidbarnwell_virtual_clas6729 he was actually very good but not used to point format.The ITF ruleset is not much better,its just light contract.
@@scarred10 No, I don't think he was. He kept letting the Karate guy come in. Proper movement and a good lead leg side kick would have stopped the other guy.
Nice 🥋
Shotokan Karate Forever.
OSS...
I like Shotokan karate the most because it suits my taste of style, but Kyokushin is definitely the most hardcore karate there is for many reasons. I also think ITF is an acceptable all around art.
Also maybe it’s not so much the art but the persons passion and natural talent after learning the art. It’s kind of like how not anyone can be a great painter simply because they’ve been doing it in a school. Also, I don’t have to be a professional painter to know whether a painting is a good painting.
Love karate~♥~
Que bruto el taekwondista nunca bajes la guardia a un karate shotokan
Que lutador de taekwondo fulebiro !!! O cara tá apanhando para um lutador de karaté,uma luta robótica.
Maioria dos vídeos Taekwondo apanha para o karatê , só procurar kk
@@MHS-ms3qo th-cam.com/video/up_ns4X62is/w-d-xo.html
That was fun
I am learning shotokan 6th kyu green belt
Although I love karate and I practice shotokan karate I kan see the karateka uses the basic puches and kick of karate I don't really see him useing the more advanced karate puches and kick and block's although he didn't really have to use it to win the taekwondo fighter I just think if he used the more advance tecniques the teakwondo fighter wouldn't have got so many puches and kicks in.
ITF guy was not so bad, but was too cautious, something that the karate guy capitalized on since the begining of the video, ITF guy should be more confident, also in ITF Patterns they work sweeps so, i belive the lack of confidence in his skills made a difference in the fight
But in taekwondo you don't expect to be kicked in your legs or thrown away.
@@ezemeza1363 Error, in tournaments it is not seen, but it is very common in training the combats with low kick techniques ( the legs) even occasional sweeping.
there are no sweeps in tkd sparring so they dont exist in practice
exactly...the problem here is that he is not competing with a tkd guy...
That dude was not an ITF guy at all, though.
Where is shotokan
Idk who taught this man ITF tkd but either he was having a bad day or they need their teaching license revoked, that shit can hardly be called ITF tkd
dobok doesn't have traditional ITF markings either
Just so u know this is only a glimps of what ITF tkd so u can’t judge there might be someone 10 times better then him
There are many people a million times better than him. He's not been trained for sparring ..that's the problem there.
Also, he's not an ITF guy. You can tell via the uniform. It's got no ITF markings or insignia. It bears a superficial resemblance to ITF uniforms ( the piping up the leg) but beyond that doesn't have the ITF tree logo or the ITF insignia on the pants. He's not ITF, at all. He may be ATA? I can't say for sure.
That TKD guy is weird. Could he be using a hybrid style or something?
Some dodgy decisions with points not being scored there.
rules?????
I would not say either system is better than another but the Shodokan fighter fought a lot smarter . His kicks had a lot more to it and his punches were define where the TKD was punching Wild and just placing lazy kicks I TF/ Am/ WTF isn’t at fault his own training is.
Toooop
TKD guy is from MCdojo.
everyone peels the same
У каратиста отличные тайминги. Представитель ткд явно теряется. Ему что бы преодолеть отставания в скорости явно нужно осуществить очень мощный вход который приведет к полному контакту, что бы подавить оппонента и судя по типу их поединка (по правилам олимпийского каратэ) он получит предупреждение за подобное
2:13 there was probably a punch but we will never know now thanks ref
edit: it think itf punched karate in the head
Parece mais uma briga do que uma luta.
i do Shotokan karate i am blue belt Shotokan the most powerful style in KARATE!!!💪🏻🗡🔥
I do to and im black belt
Its HIIMS good
Thanks Im in ISKF club
Its HIIMS but taek wondo is weaker?
@@enistopalli275 of course
Shotokan❤️🥋
Shotokan Forever.
OSS
what rule...?it looks strange
seak j Karate rules, they always stop a fight whenever a point is earned
i think that was free style karate / point fighting, i cant see WKF karate in this video,
I also play karate on my school
All i can say is the TKD guy is lucky that that wasn't a Kyoskuhin practitioner.
nah shotokan will win an easy knockout vs kyukoshin
Lexxus8324 Yes shotokan deals with sharp movements but not for knockouts
Zen Tuazon maybe not in sparring but kyokushin does not even punch on the head like shotokan does
So shotokan will be more effectief on head knockout while kyokushin doesnt
And shotokan kase ha will probbaly also get a quik knock out by one of the chops
Of course this all my opinion.
Kyokushin vs Kudo would be a better fight...
Lexxus8324 no you dont get trained for points if you do im pritty sure youre in a mac dojo karate is not about points or fighting its about self defense and willing to do what you need to do to keep you and youre family safe
ITF uniform
Not an ITF uniform, at all. He's not ITF.
He's definitely not ITF Taekwon Do, nor does he know the rules very well of this Karate Tournament. He hasn't trained properly for this tournament, and hence lost.
Kyokushin should use this gloves and helmets....
...Kudo?
@@thedarx1851 yeah, just without the glass helmet that looks like sandy cheeks...
Every m. Art is best
The karate guy has better punches , also are sweeps and ground striking allowed in itf like in karate ?
Yes, in itf tournaments the moves are allowed, but also it may be because the one who did karate trained for longer, as most people in karate do compared to taekwondo
@@Bracken_my_beloved so people stick to karate longer than tkd ?
@@ciscokid1214 no, people train longer in karate shotokan at least
Tkd please serius
karate = Boxing
Karate Shotokan Wins 👍
Nice fighter (karate) but that guy i think to can be better.
This is not the real ITF TAEKWONDO I Think he was asleep
Foi um bom combate, mas faltou um pouco mais de objetividade e técnica para ambos os lados por isto os arbitros tiveram dificuldades para marcar os pontos, mas no final quem venceu foi o esporte. Oss
oss
The TKD guy is NOT an ITF person. Also, he keeps letting the karate guy come in on him. Why???!!! It also looks like he cannot kick. He only kicks AFTER the other gut kicks. He never initiates. He does not use kicks to dominate the action and maintain distance. A good lead leg side kick would help him immensely.
Dancing
He's no ITF guy. That's not an ITF dobok. Similar but not.
I'd tend to agree being a 3rd degree in ITF taekwon do. Unfortunately the art is poorly represented on You Tube a lot of the time as it is here.
Same style with different names.
The taekwondo WT is best
@Reflexiones Con El Mate depende si entrenas el deporte si, pero si es el arte marcial original usas todas las partes
The style that resembles Western boxing the most does better. Who would've thunk it? lol
one is japanese karate, the other is korean karate (itf)
It isn't ITF, it doesn't have the letters ITF on the pants or the tree on the back.
martial arts style are like math 1+9=10 ,2+8=10, 30-20=10 so in other word there is no great or powerful style to win same as number there is no great or other way for a number to add or subtract to have the answer 10
It's not incredibly ...they have black belts
Not a very good ITF fighter, bring out a fighter of equal experience
I also think he wasn't a very good fighter. Come on, lift a leg and keep it in the air!?!? They do that in TKD tournaments , but this time he's fighting a karateka, he had to be more careful of the rules.
@@zacmich6472 na this guy looks like he found his 1st degree in a cereal box, the majority of fellow ITF students I know would destroy both of them.
This match only matters to the competitors. These two men don't represent the top level people from both arts. So there's no way this is a example of whether Shotokan or Taekwondo are the superior martial art.
Lo siento pero ese man no sabe pelear una kga hasta un cinta blanca le gana, literalmente como va a hacer una patada alta a tan corta distancia. Ombe que aprenda a pelear
Soy 2 dan de taekwondo y el taekwondoin del video pelea re mal ni sube la guardia y ni sabe desplazarse
TaeKwonDo ITF Win ! (But ITF).
Fabricio R ?
poor fighters. Im suprised how tkd guy has at least 4 dan.In poland maybe green.
I don't see tkd in the fight....
Do you need glasses ?
@@thelastaramusha lol
who is who 😅
Red protections is TKD and white protections is Karate Shotokan.
Jennifer Cardenas The red is an American native and the white is trump people (germans).
TKD SUITS HAVE BLACK LINES ON IT KARATE DOESNT .
to be itf you have very low guard
This is itf taekwondo uniform but i think he is not a taekwondo expert. Teakwondo is very good martial arts. If you want to know more plz watch my channel
No..it's not, Note..it's missing ALL ITF insignia.
The dude is supposed to be 4th degree according to the stripping of his dobok…….. obviously bought it at Walmart ?
They played in Karate rules so the karate player wins. Not surprised. The TKD player just doesn't know how to get points in Karate games.
The Tkd guy was just horrible. If he was a better fighter ..he could have done a better job ...no matter the ruleset.
The rules are biased towards the karate guy ,if u are ITF or WTF and go a karate tornament do not expect many favours from the judges .
en el tkd estan menos acostumbrados a dar golpes de puño y ademas no dan patadas bajas como en el karate , aunque se muevan mas rapido que los karatekas , los estilos de tkd tienen que dar patadas potentes , impactantes y mas efectivas si quieren ser mejores que su antesesor el shotokan
tambien tendrian que mejorar sus posiciones de combate y practicas mas patadas y sobre todo mas golpes de puño , sino su nombre no tendria sentido
tru🤓
@@benjisjisben5220 q haces aca
Foda
That ain’t ITF taekwondo…
in real fight you cant really use the high kick in taekwondo, karate is more useful because of combination of kick, punch, blocks and take down. overall karate is more useful in real life street fight or self defense
Taekwondo have combo to you know?mr know it all😏
@@aliefputrahartanto8179 what? please clarify your English
Las artes marciales mas sobrevaloradas en un mismo sitio
(No me pueden negar que todo el mundo apoya al itf y son los que dicen que los otros estilos no sirven, y el karate es karate, no hace falta decir porque todo el mundo piensa que es el mejor de todos)
Yhats not itf taekwon-do
This tkd fighter is soft he plays to safe he is weak
Too much high kick
Its prefer if ITF use low kick, punch, and high kick
Not ITF. Uniform is completely wrong.