Karate tournament from the 80s

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  • Enshin Karate tournament from the late 80's (early 90's)
    The tournament is open to advanced competitors of any style.
    The rules including use of grabs (one handed), sweeps and throws, in addition to kicks, punches, knees and other strikes. It is full contact karate with no gloves. Only striking to the head is restricted, but full power kicks to the head, neck and face are allowed.
    In the late 80s (early 90s) it was a very popular tournament.

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  • @thespamdance311
    @thespamdance311 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +532

    Chopping planks of wood, blokes getting knocked out cold and magnificent mullets, all to the tune of synth rock on grainy VHS. This video is utterly glorious! My compliments to the editor.

    • @mr.wilson9941
      @mr.wilson9941 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      Back when the world was good, before I was born

    • @eysan90
      @eysan90 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Yeah the music just makes it all the more epic and drives home that 80s vibe

    • @Imnotevenhuman
      @Imnotevenhuman 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Im high af and just vibing

    • @Adl-pk4hg
      @Adl-pk4hg 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      When men were men

    • @EnriqueMartinezAgraAgra
      @EnriqueMartinezAgraAgra หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Don't forget the epic mustaches

  • @fierypickles4450
    @fierypickles4450 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1874

    Brutal and efficient. Damn, the damage these dudes took. Way more cool to watch than modern Olympics snore fest

    • @sharwenboedhai8493
      @sharwenboedhai8493 2 ปีที่แล้ว +40

      Totally agree

    • @abramlittle7102
      @abramlittle7102 2 ปีที่แล้ว +66

      This is kyokushin. They still have tournaments like this

    • @psychedashell
      @psychedashell 2 ปีที่แล้ว +43

      Tho is an offshoot of Kyokushin.
      By this point Kyokushin Knockdown tournaments didn’t allow any kind of grabs in general - makes for an odd situation where two fighters literally lean on each other as they fight in close quarters.
      Not unlike two thugs fighting chest to chest to prove they’re all hard and everything but not quite the same either.

    • @lloydkline1518
      @lloydkline1518 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Make bruce lee scary

    • @plamenferdinandov5083
      @plamenferdinandov5083 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Snore fest is to you because it is a game of timing, speed and moment... Not everyone can get intelligent and tactical sports like WKF karate. Maybe if you read the rules and the criteria for a point, you'll get it... MAYBE.
      Ofc it has its downsides - light contact to the head, a lot of sneaking, the game is too dependent on the judges. But full contact to the head will make almost every fight finish early because of the criteria for acquiring a point.

  • @jackmehoff9595
    @jackmehoff9595 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +328

    Brain and spine trauma combined with 80’s techno metal, glorious.

    • @Hachizukatenzo
      @Hachizukatenzo 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +27

      More retrowave actually.

    • @krishnateja3419
      @krishnateja3419 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      This completely rocks

  • @MartinNounaRealEstate
    @MartinNounaRealEstate ปีที่แล้ว +47

    Everything was better in the 80's including the music!

    • @anakhap.mathew1521
      @anakhap.mathew1521 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Which is this music ❤

    • @randomonlineactivity
      @randomonlineactivity 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Regan took away mental health institutes and made many homeless people.

  • @darthpheez
    @darthpheez 2 ปีที่แล้ว +409

    “it’s karate. old school karate.”
    -johnny lawrence

    • @lightorchestrator
      @lightorchestrator 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      I was scrolling through for a Cobra Kai reference. This video plays into that mantra of 1980's being a time of more manly prowress and people getting softer nowadays.

    • @dylanplumley280
      @dylanplumley280 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      This is exactly what he meant. I wish there was a sensei like him in real life, I would become his student in a hearbeat

    • @Neko_Medic
      @Neko_Medic 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      Old school Karate, before mcdojos ruined it for everyone.

    • @thunderkatz4219
      @thunderkatz4219 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@dylanplumley280there are

    • @thenson1Halo
      @thenson1Halo 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      I felt that line so much when he said it. We might be getting a bit older and slower, but we learned real Karate and not whatever the McDojo's teach these days.

  • @nibirunomicon3203
    @nibirunomicon3203 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2208

    Is it just me or does it seem karate went a hell of a lot 'harder' back in the day?

    • @OtakuKota
      @OtakuKota 2 ปีที่แล้ว +187

      It did, I would say there were tournaments up to like 2010 that were softer than this but harder than what it is today. I did TKD back in 98-99 and I do like TKD but they went softer than Karate did. Karate really didn't get super weak till 2011ish plus.
      In Japan, and Brazil they still do it hard. Doubt you'll find many places in America or Europe that goes that hard though, maybe the Netherlands/Dutch. Since they love Kickboxing. Mikes Gym, go hard will doing Kickboxing Training.

    • @youtube-nutzer2895
      @youtube-nutzer2895 2 ปีที่แล้ว +179

      Kyokushin still goes hard I believe

    • @Ken_Jones
      @Ken_Jones 2 ปีที่แล้ว +65

      @@OtakuKota in the Netherlands there are hardly any karate fights, and TKD is kata tournaments only. But yea, Kickboxing and MMA are hot here. If you ask people if the know Canelo or Mayweather, they won’t know what you are talking about. The only known names of boxers here are Muhammad Ali and Mike Tyson.

    • @Kenzaki1010
      @Kenzaki1010 2 ปีที่แล้ว +70

      Kyokushin always go hard

    • @kiko393533
      @kiko393533 2 ปีที่แล้ว +53

      Kyokushin still like this tho.. If you search full contact karate you'll see pretty much same..

  • @delinquenter
    @delinquenter 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +110

    Now this is what real martial arts looks like. Either do it right or not at all. Nothing but full commitment and passion in sight.

    • @justinhogue9861
      @justinhogue9861 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      I dunno if a flying knee to the face is needed. Crazy stuff.

    • @delinquenter
      @delinquenter 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      @@justinhogue9861 Then don't do it. That's what I'm saying. You're singing yourself up for martial arts, so either properly learn how to put someone six feet under, or do something else. But dumbing it down is just disrecpectful to the tradition in my eyes.

    • @user-zj4zz4un5z
      @user-zj4zz4un5z 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Hate to disappoint you, but no tradition until really recent includes full-contact sparrings. Or any sparrings for that matter. “True” old martial arts were all about conditioning of your limbs and katas. All training. Putting somebody six feet under is more or of a boxing/MMA thing.

    • @delinquenter
      @delinquenter 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@user-zj4zz4un5z Uh, wrong actually. But I don't feel like disproving people on the internet today. Just make some research yourself. Cleary, you're just uneducated and want to disagree with a fact, because it doesn't align with your believes. But whatever. Don't care.

    • @bjam27
      @bjam27 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You miss the point hard.

  • @UrielManX7
    @UrielManX7 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +45

    Fucking hell man, there will never be a more awesome decade than the 80's

    • @ObeyNoLies
      @ObeyNoLies หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      The 90's was the high point of western civilization.

    • @iggydc8034
      @iggydc8034 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@ObeyNoLies 100%.

  • @IlyuuJrry34
    @IlyuuJrry34 2 ปีที่แล้ว +613

    Back when traditional martial arts were actually badass. Most of these guys are just kyokushin fighters.

    • @Lasombrosidad
      @Lasombrosidad 2 ปีที่แล้ว +84

      In fact, these are enshin karatekas, enshin is a school derived from kiokushinkai, that studies extensively the evasive and counterattack footwork, like the ashihara school.

    • @blakeimortal1084
      @blakeimortal1084 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@Lasombrosidad interesting

    • @GokuInfintysaiyan
      @GokuInfintysaiyan 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@Lasombrosidad but even ROUNDER (footwork). Also Ashihara, from the schools I've visited, LOVES elbows. Enshin also tends to have less ukeru but that might just be all of kyokushin these days

    • @johnreidy2804
      @johnreidy2804 2 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      Back when men were men and women were glad of it. Today...we are worried about peoples personal pronouns...we are raising a generation of sissies. God help us if there is another world war

    • @billywashere6965
      @billywashere6965 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      This! It's unfortunate everyone is all in on the whole UFC thing, but most of those guys are not martial artists. Fighters? Sure, but their technique is nothing like what's on display here. Closest we get is Wonderboy.

  • @Visionary0001
    @Visionary0001 2 ปีที่แล้ว +478

    A good number of the scenes from this video are from the early to mid 1990's, and not just from the 1980's. There are a couple of clips featuring the great kickboxer Patrick Smith, who didn't start fighting in major tournaments until 1990-1991.

    • @joshuabrant3487
      @joshuabrant3487 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Pat Smith won one of these tournaments also fought in the ufc and k1.

    • @SyzranetsVolodya
      @SyzranetsVolodya 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Pat participated in the tournament in 1989

    • @ninjaman1138
      @ninjaman1138 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      you mean pat smith the child molester?

    • @AnGhaeilge
      @AnGhaeilge 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@joshuabrant3487 Sabaki challenge.

    • @trumplostlol3007
      @trumplostlol3007 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Kickboxing is really not a single fighting style. You can be a Muay Thai fighter and participate in a kickboxing match.

  • @zenyxx9789
    @zenyxx9789 2 ปีที่แล้ว +99

    Atleast Karate Combat is slowly bringing back the glory of Karate

    • @jordyissappig
      @jordyissappig 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      have you not seen the new karate shit? they straight up just hold hands and dance

  • @explorermike19
    @explorermike19 2 ปีที่แล้ว +404

    I have been in martial arts since 1973. Honestly, we were not all fighting full contact with no safety gear. I have seen so many martial artists come and go, largely due to injuries. You really cannot take a full force shin kick to the head and not have it affect you for a long time or forever. Even a few broken ribs will put you out of commission for six months to a year and most folks don't return for more abuse and injury. From all the serious damage I have seen even from controlled fights, I don't condone heavy contact fighting with or without safety gear. It just is not worth the long term damage it does. Badass isn't really very cool if you can't ride the rides at Six-Flags with your son because of a concussion you received "back in the day"

    • @NJ-fi8or
      @NJ-fi8or 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      What kind of "martial arts" ?? There's real martial arts and there's McDojo specials full of pansies

    • @discmod6422
      @discmod6422 2 ปีที่แล้ว +37

      @@NJ-fi8or dawg what

    • @andrewjones1496
      @andrewjones1496 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Cool

    • @test-jb6wc
      @test-jb6wc ปีที่แล้ว +19

      In today’s era very unlikely to get into fist fights on the streets. I realized I rather just learn the art.

    • @QWERTYUIOP-ed7sv
      @QWERTYUIOP-ed7sv ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Right on

  • @PapaBeastyy
    @PapaBeastyy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +559

    Fun fact, these types of tournaments still exist today. This is Enshin karate, which derives from the more popular Kyokushin karate, as does Ashihara karate which is similar also. These are knockdown rule karate fights, punches to the body, kicks to the body, legs and head, knees to the head body and legs as well. They do not punch or elbow to the face, and it's hard to find a universally recognized reason for that, but the general consensus i've seen is that people say punching and elbowing to the face would make it too brutal. Personally I'd love if Kyokushin/Enshin/Ashihara karate would go ahead and put gloves on and start doing punches to the head. That said, I have the utmost respect for Kyokushi/Enshin/Ashihara karatekas, they're tough son of a bitches, i've done some fights with these rules and they're very intense and the body shots are potent as hell, I have a heavy background in Isshinryu Karate and loved training with the Kyokushin guys. If you want to see karate fights with more modern type rules, check out Karate Combat on youtube. Also worth checking out the style "Kudo Daido Juku", which from my understanding, is a more modern japanese MMA style heavily consisting of karate kickboxing and judo.

    • @christopherjones7023
      @christopherjones7023 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Enshin ryu is my jam.

    • @PapaBeastyy
      @PapaBeastyy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@christopherjones7023 there's an enshin place here where I live at the community center. If I didn't already spend my time doing MMA I'd consider doing it! Love my mma class and the family I got there, but definitely miss traditional karate after studying it for 12 years.

    • @poprospektu2962
      @poprospektu2962 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I do both ashihara and kyokushin karate, and basically while you don't have gloves on it would be very "violent" to have such tournament rules as permissible punches to the face. It would be almost real street fight :D But there are some categories in big tournaments they call them "full contact", allowing face punches but with gloves and helmet on as in Kudo.

    • @christopherjones7023
      @christopherjones7023 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@PapaBeastyy yeah I hear ya. The one place in my town that used to teach it is gone now and has been for years sadly. I think I officially trained for something like 4 years in Enshin-ryu and since then trained at home off and on for like 20+. But man do I miss it. Godspeed and OSU!

    • @angelsjoker8190
      @angelsjoker8190 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@PapaBeastyy Check out Kyokushin Shinken Shobu. It's Kyokushin with gloves and punches to the head. I don't like the Karate Combat ruleset. They don't allow lowkicks and hooks even thogh those are legitimate Karate techniques.

  • @CultureSamurai
    @CultureSamurai 2 ปีที่แล้ว +117

    1:44 axe kick to flying kneee wow the speed

    • @Kzany42
      @Kzany42 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      He is a Taekwondo black belt.

    • @brunoteixeira5703
      @brunoteixeira5703 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Tiger kick Sagat

    • @loloycajilla7221
      @loloycajilla7221 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@Kzany42 no he is also karate lmao.Karate has also axe kick.

    • @damian4727
      @damian4727 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      That’s some street fighter move you press red then yellow + ↩️

    • @Kzany42
      @Kzany42 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Abinanta Maheswara Taekwondo has knee strikes
      th-cam.com/video/X6D7DKe4gB4/w-d-xo.html

  • @scaryvalidation
    @scaryvalidation ปีที่แล้ว +57

    Karate in the 80’s were truly badass 🥋🔥

    • @KeyserSoze23
      @KeyserSoze23 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Did they get exposed by the UFC in the 90s?

    • @vazi011
      @vazi011 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      what u call badass is the normality of 80 . I bet some say too much rules or control. anyway nerfing promoted wimps and karens.

    • @scaryvalidation
      @scaryvalidation 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@KeyserSoze23 A lot of styles have their strength and weakness, it all depends on the fighter, to me the most effective karate style Kyokushin.

    • @snicklesnockle7263
      @snicklesnockle7263 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      @@KeyserSoze23 By that logic boxing also got exposed at ufc 1

    • @thr417
      @thr417 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@KeyserSoze23
      Lots of UFC fighters have Karate background, like GSP, and Anderson Silva

  • @ZakZ8915
    @ZakZ8915 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Holy shit, this looks EXACTLY like the martial arts movies from the 80s and 90s!

  • @mandingosaurus3553
    @mandingosaurus3553 2 ปีที่แล้ว +196

    This is just pure epicness, truly marveling.
    The technique and brutality, this is full on fights, everyone is so brave, risking everything in seconds, warriors.

    • @chriswiggins4842
      @chriswiggins4842 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I wonder what the winner got at the end just a trophy?

    • @knuckledragger2412
      @knuckledragger2412 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      ​@@chriswiggins4842 for real man, trophy's don't pay any bills...
      These guys can rotate their hips around their giant balls pretty effortlessly and I'm impressed.

    • @JustMe-vz3wd
      @JustMe-vz3wd 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      warriors???? warriors are people who fight for a good cause to defend their ideals or country or family.
      Punching and wacking eachother in the head is pretty cool to watchbut no bravery there or anything noble or valuable.

    • @LINKchris87
      @LINKchris87 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@JustMe-vz3wd I'm afraid you don't understand the heart of martial arts.

    • @crisalcantara7671
      @crisalcantara7671 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Your name is fkn hilariousn 😂😂

  • @israelpereaortiz8030
    @israelpereaortiz8030 2 ปีที่แล้ว +257

    They dont a sportsman, they are a true warriors

    • @Spiderman-ks5zn
      @Spiderman-ks5zn 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      *I* was the one who did a sportsman

    • @katokianimation
      @katokianimation 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      They don't what?

    • @JDo9000
      @JDo9000 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      😂

    • @MicBain81
      @MicBain81 2 ปีที่แล้ว +36

      He don't a English

    • @obay_humran
      @obay_humran 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MicBain81 because he is busy killing chi. ldren
      He don't have time to study..

  • @TheCakeWizardGuy
    @TheCakeWizardGuy ปีที่แล้ว +73

    This is like the intro of a karate series I'd love to watch, with all those cool characters shown briefly and you only get to know them as the series progresses. Big respect to all the athletes!

    • @billywashere6965
      @billywashere6965 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Heck yeah! The 1980s went hard with the awesomeness.

    • @joshuabrant7689
      @joshuabrant7689 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Karate minoru

    • @PANYHK
      @PANYHK 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      like WMAC Masters

  • @EZ_Case
    @EZ_Case 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +69

    I wish I could relive the 80s and 90s. Obviously the best consecutive decades in history.

    • @kevinnorris6157
      @kevinnorris6157 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      Pretty much. Everyone was rich and the music was awesome

    • @Uaroth
      @Uaroth 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@kevinnorris6157 It heavily depends on the location, actually) My apologies for the long comment in response to one phrase, but we have such an interesting contrast of memories.... For example, the 90s in my Russia - the famous time of hunger, poverty, mass drug addiction and lawlessness.
      The bosses did not pay wages for six months, sneering at the workers that they would not find another job anyway. Instead of money, people dragged self-made furniture from factories to barter things for food with their neighbors.
      Dozens of narcomaniacs and alcoholics were lying everywhere right in snowdrifts and in front of house entrances, dying in back alleys and attacking passers-by in the streets.
      The police (then still "the militia") could simply kidnap a man at the behest of local crooks and beat him in the basement. Entire departments were blackmailed or bribed by criminals - or turned into armed gangs of their own. In the general chaos, police officers also went months without being paid. Guns were sometimes not taken away from those dismissed, orders contradicted each other and got lost along the way.
      And the oligarchs who were able to rise on the back of this horror - they could simply drive into a restaurant in a limousine and shoot the customers for fun. The next day, TV was already praising them as new parliamentarians, and their accusers disappeared.
      "Nineties" is a swear word here, politicians remind about them in contrast, to show that now we live quite well) And you remember that everyone was rich....
      But there are small reasons for nostalgia. Free-thinking, no one controlled daring musicians and comedians... So music was awesome, too) And drunken orgies everywhere. People reveled in sex after the end of decades of mandatory ideology and strict morality. Everyone tried to emulate the famous American nightlife and European hedonism from movies and racy travel stories... Especially universities were a horny mess. But other than that - no, no more 90s, please)

    • @ericastier1646
      @ericastier1646 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      for usa history only. For Europe the best time was the 19th century, of course at that time usa was still an ex convict frontier land without civilized manners except in major cities.

    • @aflodesigns
      @aflodesigns 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      fuck ya...movies...shows...cartoons ..music .man we had it alllll

    • @EZ_Case
      @EZ_Case 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@ericastier1646 you watch too many movies.

  • @chrisinfiesto835
    @chrisinfiesto835 2 ปีที่แล้ว +103

    In 1978 I fought in a Mas Oyama tournament similar 2 this. I think the emphasis on “kicks only” 2 the head was an effort 2 keep the competition from turning in2 kick boxing matches.

    • @sadatrafsanjani
      @sadatrafsanjani 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Osu!

    • @IlyuuJrry34
      @IlyuuJrry34 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Makes sense

    • @user-sq3oy4gk8b
      @user-sq3oy4gk8b 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Mas Oyama was forced to make this stupid rule, i do Kyokushin with true full contact, we've been champions in more than 15 open tournaments with true full contact rules in 20 years (the only rules were no groin hits, only MMA gloves were allowed and only 18+ purple to black belts were allowed)

    • @Kenzaki1010
      @Kenzaki1010 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @Spectre Owl He did want to used gloves and at the time MMA gloves were not available. Bare knuckles to face cause bleeding, skinning of the knuckles… which is messy, potential infectious etc. Thus, bare knuckles and no face shot it is.

    • @Kenzaki1010
      @Kenzaki1010 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@user-sq3oy4gk8b Didn’t even know Kyokushin have purple belt. What IKO are you under?

  • @Timmyboy505
    @Timmyboy505 2 ปีที่แล้ว +44

    We need this back so fucking bad

    • @IlyuuJrry34
      @IlyuuJrry34 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It wouldn't compete with karate combat and kyokushin tournaments.

    • @lanky6429
      @lanky6429 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@IlyuuJrry34 U definitely smoking sum if you think this does not compete with what you're saying.

    • @danmark7352
      @danmark7352 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Nowadays not many would go through the vigorous training it demands.

    • @moonsdonut5188
      @moonsdonut5188 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@IlyuuJrry34 karate combat does not have the look and feel and spirit of what you saw in this clip its waterd down

    • @hichemgymart6615
      @hichemgymart6615 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      This is a derived style from kyokushin. Stop hard drugs!@@IlyuuJrry34

  • @Tungar111-mv2hw
    @Tungar111-mv2hw 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    My taekwondo teacher always taught me the kind of karate/martial arts tourneys they had back in the 80s were practically UFC without grappling and faceshots. These videos are always so fascinating.

  • @afrikasmith1049
    @afrikasmith1049 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Now that Blood Sport theme song is playing in my head.

  • @livewire2474
    @livewire2474 2 ปีที่แล้ว +47

    Wow!! so very impressive.old school karate at its finest OSU!!!!

    • @joereidy5732
      @joereidy5732 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Do you think those guys are tougher than the little sissy boys in their 20's and 30's today?

    • @josechemastill1235
      @josechemastill1235 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@joereidy5732 actually ur probably a sissy saying that xD

  • @m.d.f3797
    @m.d.f3797 2 ปีที่แล้ว +50

    Now this is what we call proper fighting. Full power striking. This would have trained fighters to actually be tough and ready to actually defend themselves in a street fight instead of the crap they have now.

    • @dababy4182
      @dababy4182 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      theres even an mma offshoot from this: th-cam.com/video/M5AvCcLwaJQ/w-d-xo.html

    • @trumplostlol3007
      @trumplostlol3007 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      You haven't seen Premier full contact Karate? Search for it. They are starting to have full contact combat because of UFC. Lot of people are badmouthing karate these days simply they haven't seen the real karate. Imagine if you can kick your opponent's groin. Muay Thai becomes a joke. LOL

    • @barriolimbas
      @barriolimbas 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yeah, the expeditious efficiency of striking is lost to these new overly grappling oriented arts and competitions.

    • @trumplostlol3007
      @trumplostlol3007 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@barriolimbas Not really. Striking and kicking dominate grappling in almost all women divisions in UFC. Judo which is more about throwing than grappling dominates BJJ. Just look at Shevchenko. She is all striking, kicking and throwing. You haven't seen many Russians in UFC that why you believe grappling dominates the MMA sport. Watch some Russian MMA. They are not scared of BJJ at all.

    • @barriolimbas
      @barriolimbas 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@trumplostlol3007Look at how these strike and at how they strike mostly at MMA. Bottom line is striking had lost emphasis in favor of grappling, though recently even in MMA one can see the better strikers getting an upper hand easier.

  • @joelweber3462
    @joelweber3462 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Love that 80s Synthwave music. I began TKD in the 90s and we were no protective gear - but keeping hands up and blocking kicks to the head is rather important :)

  • @Dragonfly491
    @Dragonfly491 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Feels like a different world, a different era, a different time.

  • @lingera8222
    @lingera8222 2 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    Damn... everything was better in the 80's/early 90's... music, film, sport... even toys!

    • @moonsdonut5188
      @moonsdonut5188 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes I liked the Gameboy too

    • @JackSparrow-ct4mh
      @JackSparrow-ct4mh 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@moonsdonut5188 modern hardware and software are obviously better than gameboys, but honestly the games were a lot more divers and creative than modernage crap. all the AAA titles look and play the same

  • @garichar
    @garichar 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +26

    These guys are the best around, nothing's gonna ever keep them down!

    • @panorama4526
      @panorama4526 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      They bring themselves down with heavy injuries and lasting repercussions. Are they more handicapped before or after the fight?

    • @steelfalconx2000
      @steelfalconx2000 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      They're the best!!!!
      AROOUND!!!

    • @Gr8Incarnate
      @Gr8Incarnate หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@panorama4526 😏

  • @wl7291
    @wl7291 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    I realize I always loved the hard styles and abilities of kicking. Minimal telegraph low kicks, dexterity for close range high kicks, kicking both sides of both legs, spinning kicks with ease.

  • @fernandoreyesespinoza9834
    @fernandoreyesespinoza9834 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    So brutal the quality of this video, amazing movements and music and well edited. Godamn, this video inspire me to practise

  • @Lith333
    @Lith333 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Those were some gorgeous kick knockouts in the video! Beautiful technique!

  • @Yippee-ki-yay_mo-fcker
    @Yippee-ki-yay_mo-fcker 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Wow. I love your videos, about old school fighters. Here other great one, you made. Thank you for your time and love for old school fighters. Keep up the good work.

  • @sergiogastoncarrizo159
    @sergiogastoncarrizo159 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    This is like an entire different martial art compared to Olympic karate nowadays

  • @jacobpaint
    @jacobpaint 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I love the flying knee the guy pulls out at 1:45 after a big miss with his axe kick. I have a feeling you’d be hard-pressed to find this kind of karate footage now but there must be some people still competing like this.

    • @glsbro
      @glsbro 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Me too. I noticed it, i tried to use it. Now i have the guide

  • @deepsoul7418
    @deepsoul7418 2 ปีที่แล้ว +98

    Now these were the REAL Karate/Martial Arts Tournaments I remember as dangerous as it was! Not more or less this BS we're seeing today!

    • @dababy4182
      @dababy4182 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      th-cam.com/video/M5AvCcLwaJQ/w-d-xo.html this was an mma karate style back in the 80s

    • @ltmandar
      @ltmandar 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      it all seems fun and games until someone loses an eye

    • @Tokmurok
      @Tokmurok 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      ​@@ltmandarYou sound like an overprotective mum.

    • @ltmandar
      @ltmandar 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Tokmurok thats a first :)

    • @kohank5938
      @kohank5938 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ltmandar So what? Did those fighters need your sympathy? Don't think so high of yourself, they knew what they get them into and your opinion means nothing.

  • @cunjoz
    @cunjoz 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    throws, knees, takedowns, one kick knock outs - god damn

  • @paulbianchi7877
    @paulbianchi7877 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Exactly, many real good comments, it was tough, crawl home after a work out, bruised but not without it also being fun... nothing but good memories. A lot of great people.

  • @kumite14u
    @kumite14u 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Fighting in karate tournaments back in the day was the real deal. Nothing like what they do now. Even groin strikes were legal in some I fought in. What great memories!

  • @rezlogan4787
    @rezlogan4787 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    The head instructor at our gym competed in this era. We don’t play patty cake and the belt tests are BRUTAL. Full contact sparring with head kicks allowed.

    • @Kenzaki1010
      @Kenzaki1010 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      There is no “this era”, Kyokushin Karate was and still the same from its creation.

    • @michaelpanetta2161
      @michaelpanetta2161 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That's incredibly stupid.

  • @itamiyouji4057
    @itamiyouji4057 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    ...back in the days when people actually hit each other in Karate!

  • @user-to7nn5zo4u
    @user-to7nn5zo4u 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Вот это было каратэ!!!! Я в восторге и музыка супер!!! Спасибо. 👍

  • @Hurry_Revive_Me
    @Hurry_Revive_Me 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Straplocked - Lasers and bombs
    You're welcome! Train hard!

    • @Dungeonofman
      @Dungeonofman 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you brother !!!

  • @GMFeanor
    @GMFeanor 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Man what a great vibe i feel watchin this video) I was born in 90's, but I miss 80's)

  • @bagtroll6587
    @bagtroll6587 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Вот ЭТО Я ПОНИМАЮ....ЖЕСТКО И БЕЗКОМПРОМИСНО.
    ВЕЛИКОЕ УВАЖЕНИЕ ВЕЛИКОМ БОЙЦАМ 80-Х

  • @ivanildocafu3452
    @ivanildocafu3452 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    That times will never ever come back!! Nothing will be like that again!!

  • @kie6478
    @kie6478 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The music is PERFECT. This video is PERFECT.

  • @dianecenteno5275
    @dianecenteno5275 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I miss this!! Thank you for sharing!💮

  • @ikko93
    @ikko93 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    When you finish playing in the Cage and fight for real with precision and calmness.
    Top notch. No punching or kicking on the ground just a clean fight.
    very nice

  • @DirtyHairy84
    @DirtyHairy84 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The sweet music is really what makes these sweet karate moves hit for me!

  • @user-gi6gf9in2r
    @user-gi6gf9in2r 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    как же без комментария олд скулл комбат как всегда рулит!!карате ММА кикбоксинг борьба много много ещё по этой теме!!лучший канал на Ютубе!больше хайкик лайков и никакого партер дизлайков(которых уже нет правда)

  • @HomelessNinjaKennedy
    @HomelessNinjaKennedy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    Enshin karate is, in my opinion, the most entertaining karate style to watch

    • @RedKing64
      @RedKing64 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      It's cool, but I think Kudo is more entertaining and complete...

    • @y.wirasmoyo
      @y.wirasmoyo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Kudo are independent now, they are no longer karate branch

  • @bobsmith-ji2uh
    @bobsmith-ji2uh 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Spinning side kicks and mullets….glorious

  • @kybone25
    @kybone25 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great video!! Great music and fight footage.

  • @raphael1331corguit
    @raphael1331corguit 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    love this clip and music is so perfect

    • @yudhanovi681
      @yudhanovi681 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Music
      Straplocked "Laser or bomb"

  • @alexisdominguez3133
    @alexisdominguez3133 2 ปีที่แล้ว +53

    What karate combat is trying to bring back.🥋👊

    • @cahallo5964
      @cahallo5964 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      with no thigh kicks lol (they did exclusively to mess up with full contact karate practicioners, the "differentiate from kickboxing" is just an excuse)

    • @nvanguy6868
      @nvanguy6868 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Karate combat sucks its so corny

    • @Tophatguy665
      @Tophatguy665 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@nvanguy6868no.

  • @thechrisricci
    @thechrisricci ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This goes harder than I thought it would. Impressive.

  • @ovee-mpee3
    @ovee-mpee3 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Amazing aesthetic edit, props. Its a shame decades when many many many more people than nowadays used to truly do things with their heart full of hardcore passion are gone. I dont mean only karate, I mean everything....

  • @gamerx30
    @gamerx30 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I miss the 80’s and 90’s💯

  • @CYB3R2K
    @CYB3R2K 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    "That's why they call this thing bloodsport, kid"

  • @cinimatics
    @cinimatics หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This is real Karate. The contact, the throws, the complete disregard for self preservation. I love it!

  • @WhatIsMatter101
    @WhatIsMatter101 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Karate tournaments these days are basically 3 minutes of hopping around, some feints and occasional attempts to score.

    • @Fyrmer
      @Fyrmer 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Sounds like an episode of Beavis & Butthead

    • @chrishouse5753
      @chrishouse5753 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Different times, different rules. Like playing contact sports back then - you got concussed you were told to shake it off now you can be out three weeks.

  • @GermanGDragon
    @GermanGDragon 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    80s/90s were the golden age of humanity.

  • @jaymthesn5981
    @jaymthesn5981 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    2:20 "Boards don't hit back..." - Bruce Lee
    LMAO, Newton would say that Bruce Lee tricked us all.

  • @ericrecano8557
    @ericrecano8557 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This was Enshin Karate hosted by Joko Niyomiya…an awesome a beautiful style. An offshoot of Kykoshin Karate! I had a VHS of this tourney!

  • @Mondmensch1979
    @Mondmensch1979 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Gänsehaut auf hohem Niveau 😂geiles Video und die Musik ballert miese,! ❤

  • @morpyna7593
    @morpyna7593 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    times when people were actually keeping distance instead of getting glued to each other for the whole fight...

    • @sardalamit
      @sardalamit 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hahahaha kyokushin guys are going to hate you for this!
      The style of the fights are all upto the rules of the game and the scoring..

    • @morpyna7593
      @morpyna7593 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@sardalamit hah, I'm training kyokushin myself and I've seen way too many fights that were looking exactly the same. And yeah, the most ''boring'' (in terms of repetition) fights I had a chance to see were coming from kyokushin players who were specifically trained for tournaments, so rules and everything definitely mean something.

    • @sardalamit
      @sardalamit 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@morpyna7593 hats off to you for Kyokushin.

  • @LINKchris87
    @LINKchris87 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Now THIS is Karate worth watching. Not the olimpic shit they do nowadays.

  • @mrnobody6609
    @mrnobody6609 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Great choice of music!!!

  • @Handotr
    @Handotr 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I was an active competitor in world Oyama karate in the 80s. This was how we trained and this was how we fought. OSU!

    • @Professor_Bugs
      @Professor_Bugs 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      how would you compare this to muy-thai we have today?
      I do BJJ and i see some of the takedowns in this video and they look brutal as fuck.
      BJJ is legendary for its shitty takedowns, its basically just a little better than aikido.
      "first do this, then do that". If it takes more than 2 or 3 big movements its usually bullshit.
      There is a reason many just start on the ground, and its because the takedowns suck
      I hate it when my gym teaches these kind of low percentage stuff. They think they have to teach a new takedown or move every fucking week instead on focusing on single leg, double legs, back take or high rate submissions. That's it. Get good at a set of moves that are high percentage rather than 50 that you suck at.

  • @yuhanzhang2882
    @yuhanzhang2882 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +25

    Back then when Martial art wasn't about shirtless men rolling and hugging on the ground.

    • @Abuqital2000
      @Abuqital2000 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I think you've been watching gay porn😂

    • @GGwithkamatis
      @GGwithkamatis 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Your latent homosexuality is showing

    • @definitelynotanAIchatbot
      @definitelynotanAIchatbot 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Wrestling is literally the first martial art.

    • @HonkeyKong54
      @HonkeyKong54 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hurt that your phony bs ain't respected anymore

    • @HonkeyKong54
      @HonkeyKong54 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@definitelynotanAIchatbotI think he's hurt that certain traditional martial arts are a joke today

  • @Kannpass
    @Kannpass 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Wery well made, excellent music choice 👌

  • @Melpheos1er
    @Melpheos1er 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Damn that was something else... Looks like seeing a classic JCVD but IRL and with the same music

  • @Magneticlaw
    @Magneticlaw 2 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    A lot of what I've heard about karate is that it's better than knowing nothing in terms of a combat style, but that it had a number of shortcomings. This clip certainly dispels a lot of that - these guys were definitely badasses. 👍

    • @photronsardarkling2064
      @photronsardarkling2064 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Well, I did Karate for a couple of years then attended a kickboxing class and sparred with a guy who had been doing it a couple of months and had my ass handed to me. I discovered I knew nothing about timing, distance, recoil and quickly learnt karate blocks don't work. Never went back to Karate.

    • @a.rheser8181
      @a.rheser8181 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@photronsardarkling2064 what style of Karate did you practice? Did your school have Kumite with points or full-contact Karate?
      When you say „karate-blocks don’t work“ which blocking techniques do you mean?
      If you’re referring to age-uke (jodan-uke) or Soto-uke (chudan-uke), then yes, they don’t work in a real fight, but they’re not really meant to. In a real gibt, nobody throws a single punch and then blocks singularly. The traditional ways of blocking are just there to learn the form. I regular spar with MMA-guys, and my modernised version of Karate somewhat holds up against these guys. But not Kata or Kihon, they are meant for training, not for actual free fighting.

    • @photronsardarkling2064
      @photronsardarkling2064 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@a.rheser8181 Shotokan, very traditional and in truth, the sparring gave you a false sense of security but was of little value. Virtually no blocks in karate or any combat sport work because by the time you've seen the move it's already too late. You are far better off from behind good defensive positions where strikes to you land on strategically placed arms legs etc, you see this more in boxing and good kick boxers/Thai fighters but not so much in MMA because they are looking to take you to the canvas. Anyway, this is all academic for me because I'm now in my 60s and don't do combat sports anymore. 😁

    • @clownboyyyy
      @clownboyyyy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@photronsardarkling2064 im really confused by what you say because I see plenty of boxers and MMA fighters using blocks regularly, especially from high guard and long guard. do you mean the weird dramatic movie karate type blocks that dont cover up anything?

    • @USGrant-rr2by
      @USGrant-rr2by ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@photronsardarkling2064 Lyoto Michida. main style-Shotokan. MMA world champion using a lot of Shotokan techniques. Don't forget- fighting also depends on ACTUAL Talent, not just style. Maybe you just weren't very good? Did you even earn Shodan Rank?

  • @nekilt9874
    @nekilt9874 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Раньше каратэ был жеще.
    Хорошое время было.)

  • @WadeSmith-oe5xd
    @WadeSmith-oe5xd 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    These guys have really good clinching skills and brutal knock-out power in their kicking technique.

  • @darkdrake13
    @darkdrake13 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is kyokushin Karate. It still exists and still goes this hard.

  • @wtkao5711
    @wtkao5711 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    It's more interesting than an Olympic karate match. 💪

  • @TonyPstunts
    @TonyPstunts 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    BRAH! This was my jam back in the days. Most “MMA fighters” these days just don’t know

    • @notoriusdrifter40
      @notoriusdrifter40 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Karate was kind of like mma, it was a combination of everything

  • @vremennonado
    @vremennonado ปีที่แล้ว +1

    OMG... It was really pure and hard those days

  • @darianbroomfield8361
    @darianbroomfield8361 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    That 80’s action martial arts music is so bad ass I’m born in the 90’s and I think the 80’s was the coolest era ever I wish I would have been a teenager in the 80’s and a young adult in the 80’s as well

    • @Dragonfly491
      @Dragonfly491 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Same here

  • @user-nq4ww2md5z
    @user-nq4ww2md5z 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Вот это КАРАТЕ! А на современное, без слез смотреть невозможно. Поэтому ММА и Муай-тай "задавили" каратэ по зрелищности и популярности.

    • @rh_BOSS
      @rh_BOSS 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Каратеки сами убили карате, выдавая пояса всем подряд.

  • @denfedorov8176
    @denfedorov8176 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Истинный дух принятия победы или поражения, честный бой всегда виден. Ос!

  • @AJeziorski1967
    @AJeziorski1967 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Started training in Kyokushin karate back in the 80s and watched my first UK national knockdown championship in '83. It was exciting, tough full-contact competition with the added excitement that there were a lot of fighters from other styles there to test themselves - especially from a Chinese style called Wu Shu Kwan (whom we saw as kind of our arch-rivals back in those days ...). Kyokushin knockdown tournaments are still that tough and exciting and over the years the best fighters have introduced some amazing new techniques and the style of fighting has modernized somewhat. But you don't get that many rival styles entering these days, which is a pity ...

    • @begobolehsjwjangan2359
      @begobolehsjwjangan2359 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      thanks to 'BJJ disguised as MMA' rules of no twisting joint, soccer kicks, curb stomping, and 12-6 elbows.
      back then there are only silat and karate ruling the street in my country.
      and today MMA is not popular in my country because we already see their BS.
      my dad always said 'you fight with your techniques, i fight with my techniques' that's the real MMA that's how you develop thats how you survive.
      not this 'i fight with my techniques but you can't fight with techniques that render my style incompetent'.
      we used to challenge BJJ and MMA fighters in a real MMA no rule style, but they always refuse.
      they just want to stay in their own bubble.

  • @goodlookinouthomie1757
    @goodlookinouthomie1757 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    YOU'RE THE BEST
    AROUND
    NOTHINGS EVER GONNA KEEP YOU DOWN

  • @gabrielalfaia8154
    @gabrielalfaia8154 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Wow. How did this become the sport of who yells and touches the opponent more?

  • @brianthompson7482
    @brianthompson7482 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Everything in the 80s was on a different level then anything today

    • @maryjanehansen7947
      @maryjanehansen7947 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Then why'd your generation ruin everything man

    • @brianthompson7482
      @brianthompson7482 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@maryjanehansen7947 what did we ruin ?

    • @maryjanehansen7947
      @maryjanehansen7947 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@brianthompson7482 As in why'd your generation implement all the excessive safety rules and procedures that defines the "pussy" generations of the future?

  • @AlphaBravoDingo
    @AlphaBravoDingo 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    If that was one tournament, it would've been worth going to see!

  • @alanstone8798
    @alanstone8798 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    man , this is amazing , where a fighter can express themselfs 👏👏

  • @cad3nce
    @cad3nce 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I would love to see the full tournament

  • @fabianacuna7113
    @fabianacuna7113 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Sabaki challenge. Created by the founder of the Enshin style, which focuses on surrounding your opponent thus you're not allowed to grab with both hands while striking. Sabaki literally means to surround in Japanese

  • @Beleth420
    @Beleth420 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Some of those kicks were so nice

  • @thesurlygamer6933
    @thesurlygamer6933 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have so many scars from the 80's, but they all have a good "you had to have been there" story to go with them.

  • @GuitarsRockForever
    @GuitarsRockForever 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Old school was pretty hardcore. Need to bring it back (with better rules).

    • @wanderer1125
      @wanderer1125 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      it's now brought back through olympics Karate

    • @Kenzaki1010
      @Kenzaki1010 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Its still here, so no need to bring it back.

    • @Kenzaki1010
      @Kenzaki1010 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@wanderer1125 Different style of Karate.

  • @urman1836
    @urman1836 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Потрясная подборка! Ролик топ!

  • @jonbohn3854
    @jonbohn3854 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    the head kicks are fantastic, as are the knee shots!

  • @batboy9997
    @batboy9997 ปีที่แล้ว

    This kind of video is what made me sign up for classes when I was 15.

  • @VNSnake1999
    @VNSnake1999 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I'm glad that Karate is making a come back in popularity in recent years.

    • @tonynomikos3702
      @tonynomikos3702 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Thank cobra kai for that

    • @VNSnake1999
      @VNSnake1999 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@tonynomikos3702 And youtubers like Wonderboy, Sensei Seth and Karate Nerd too I guess.

    • @tonynomikos3702
      @tonynomikos3702 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@VNSnake1999 you forgot master ken lol

  • @kevinomahoney
    @kevinomahoney 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The Sabaki Challenge. I think I saw Joko Ninomiya in there a couple times.