@@dimensionzone8048 Someone should’ve told that to Paul Dini himself. In 1997, he wrote a graphic novel called Batman: Mr. Freeze. That comic is basically a less good remake of Heart Of Ice.
Freeze is by far the most sympathetic villain in Batman's rogue gallery. He is scared of losing someone he loves and is willing to do whatever it takes to save them. Feels weird to see Freeze portrayed any other way after the way Batman: TAS portrayed him.
“No” I love how quick Strange responds to the idea of love, he’s such a narcissist he can’t even entertain the possibility of loving someone else for a second
Hugo is more like a psychopath in my opinion. I think a narcissist is able to genuinely love someone, but psychopaths feel nothing. Of course, I could be wrong.
"Perhaps your ice princess would be at home now" Probably one of the most evil things Hugo has said to someone. Surprised Victor didn't burst into tears
@@gagecole4913 he does in the animated series at least. He cries at the end of Heart of Ice when he says ‘all I can do is beg your forgiveness and pray you can hear me somehow’ to Nora and I also think he cries at the end of Sub-Zero when he sees that Wayne Enterprises is funding loads of research to help with Nora’s condition
The problem with Mr. Freeze is that he never stops to consider what Nora would say if she knew about all the destruction and death that he has caused just in an attempt to cure her.
one of my grandparents once told me that "Love is as wonderful as it is dangerous, and it can make you do stupid decisions on his name, sometimes really stupid ones"
+HyperDragoonHx and for that he has done terrible things. The wrongs of another do not justify the wrongs you commit. Using loved ones as an excuse is a cop out.
EmptyMan000 Thank you I'm sick and tired of Victor and his nonsensical pandering of his wife.Call me heartless,but Cold dick here just can't accept that he's not the only one going through all this shit called life.Everytime he gets caught or gets his ass hauled to arkham.He brings up Nora just to salvage a percentage of brownie points to make us feel sorry for him.I think he's just mad he can't fuck anyone else with a icicle
And yet for all his points, it all becomes moot when Hugo's cruelty gets the best of him and he does shit like handing Nora to Joker just because. In the end, Hugo's just another petty sociopath
Yep! Why do you think this is widely accepted as the best superhero video game series ever made? Because of its attention to details that other Batman properties just overlook!
Fries' backstory has always been top-tier DC Writing. And whenever any form of media utilises that into his character whenever he appears, you know they've got good writers.
Mr Freeze is always a gem to listen too, despite his voice being robotic and void of emotion on the surface, listening to what he has to say lets you know all of the heartache and pain that lies beneath the cold exterior
I love how he sounds so businesslike and (dare I say it) a little cold, but then he talks about Nora, he sounds so...human. Especially after Strange tells him that the Joker took Nora.
This is why batman and his villains are such powerful characters. Unlike shows like justice league, superman, or even x-men, the villians in batman are so much the focus of there story, and these tragic characters, you can feel for many of them (not all, but many), ones like freeze, harley, two-face and others.
wow.... poor mr freeze. really, the only reason he is doing what he does is to save his dying wife. and, once he knows she is safe, he would give up his life of crime and let himself be taken in to serve his time.
That's very true. I had a dream one time about the Lego Batman movie, but the focus was on freeze. At some point in the story, Freeze touches the glass chamber his wife is in, and remembers with guilt and shame earlier he aimed a weapon at Dick. What I'm trying to get to is that Barbara, the new commissoner, makes a deal with Freeze that if they give him all the resources he needs to save Nora, he'll have to dedicate the rest of his life to curing others of their diseases. Freeze immediatley said yes, because he only cares of Nora's endurance. His life afterwards doesn't matter.
I feel sorry for the poor man. Hugo Strange quite the villain, yet not even the civilians understand how he just wants to let people live and to save people from illness and death.
Mr. Freeze is such a well written character. He's one "villain" I've always respected. He's more of an Ani-Hero in my book. His methods maybe unorthodox but he means well. None of this would ever happen to him if people understood his pain.
@@MarvelandDC379 Freeze's is a full villain, albeit a tragic one. He's not an irredeemable monster like the Joker or Strange, but he still could have chosen to avoid killing innocents, and he didn't.
+James Michel DEFINATELY! There are no live action Mr. Fries other than the one from1997 of batman and robin which sucked. Alan Rickman is the man for the job. It's perfect.
You know, these tapes show me good in Hugo Strange. He may be a villain, but is still a psychiatrist doing his duty. In this case, he criticized Mr. Freeze's life about his errors and told us of important lessons. When we have ignorance, we tend to blame others for our mistakes. Instead of stealing from others because of mistrust, we could just share with them our gifts. Maybe even one day, we would be rewarded by karma. Mr. Freeze is one of my villain faves, but Strange just made himself more interesting.
Freeze is one of my favorite villains in the Rogue's Gallery. He's a heartbroken lover who will do anything to get his wife back, and I mean _anything._ Murder, theft, kidnapping, torture, terrorism - he's crosses so many lines at this point, why not? His chief weakness is his persistent obsession with reviving Nora; otherwise, he's a supergenius in power armor. Piss him off, see what happens.
never realized his past was sad and gruesome too before meeting Nora or becoming what he is. 6:35 I really look forward to that dlc story for Origins! Might be spoiling here of course but hey could be different when Batman first goes up against him! Hope it plays out like that classic episode.
you know...i feel bad for Freeze. all he wants to do is save his wife. but Batman or Hugo Strange or the Joker or whoever keeps delaying that. by the time he finds a cure for his wife he'll be an old man(if Freeze can age that is) Gotham will have taller buildings and advance tech and Nora will wonder what the hell happen while she was in Cryo sleep. Arkham doesn't have the heart to give Freeze a lab so he can work on the cure while serving his time in prison? heartless assholes. >:/
Strange was 1000% correct. He does have a stone cold heart. And the only reason why he loved Nora so much is really cause he's never really loved or cared about anything or anyone besides himself until he met her. And he actually believes that no one has ever loved anyone the way he loves his wife. Which is stupid, nonsense, and almost narcissistic even. Saving her life is more for his own sake than it is hers
Strange is partially correct but compared to all of the interviews he does, you can hear the frustration in his tone when he talks to Mr Freeze. I think it's because he's a sociopath who doesn't care about other people at all and has no compassion. He's never loved anyone whereas Mr Freeze is the opposite. His whole life he did crimes to help other people whether it was to save animals or his wife. Strange is annoyed by this and gaslights Mr Freeze into thinking he's a selfish person when he's really not. He is a criminal yes but he didn't commit crimes because they were fun or to enrich himself but he had a desperate need to help others but just did it the wrong away. To Strange, he's triggered that Mr Freeze wasted his genius on helping others instead of helping himself
That's actually the angle they play with Mr. Freeze in his One Bad Day comic. It's clear he loves Nora, but in a very possessive way. Almost like she's his property. Still, you see that Nora did love the man under the need for strict control, and hopes he can be the man she fell in love with again
Freeze reminds me of Doctor Connors, both are scientists and family men who became victims of their own creation that end up ruining their lives and their families while on the eternal search for a cure
Doesn't change the fact that Hugo was absolutely right though. All Freeze could say in response was "rawr revenge" in some form or another, never disputing what Hugo tells him. Granted, it doesn't help that I have little sympathy for characters who constantly go "boo hoo, poor me" yet don't give a scuttering fuck about who they hurt to achieve their goal. It's also one of the reasons who I dislike Harley as well.
Mr. Freeze always been one of my favorite batman villain' of all time one of the reason why cause he's not really a villain he does what he does for love
One thing that I love about Freeze is that he's a much MUCH better take on essentially The Mummy. A man driven to incredible lengths to bring back the only woman he ever loved......going so far that not even death itself could stop him. Imhotep had his Ankhesenamun, Victor has his Nora. Unfortunately, their end is always tragic.....they are destined to lose their only love, and in the process...lose themselves.
Mr Freeze is one of my favorite Batmanvillains because from Batman TAS when he apperared in the episode Heart of Ice and that's my favorite episode :) Maurice LeMarche sounds like Michael Ansara's Mr Freeze voice from Batman TAS and i think he did a fantastic job :) !
Strange is right... to a degree; there's no denying what Victor did was wrong; stealing funds, freezing neighbors' pets as a boy... But unlike most of Batman's rogues' gallery, he did it with the best intentions, not wicked ones. Strange is right that he should have consorted with others instead of embezzling money from GothCorp... but he is wrong that Victor is entirely responsible for all that has gone wrong in his life. He loved Nora, and when you touch her, you -will- find a heart of ice.
And let's not forget that Batman had Boyle arrested for kidnapping Nora, not taking any damned regard for her life, blind greed, and nearly killing her AND Freeze.
@@pamelasymonds2147 I'm fine. He never meant to hurt people. And besides, Batman is doing his best to help Mr. Freeze quit his life of crime and most of the time help fix Nora.
Charlotte A. Cavatica he is selfish, he always gets upset about losing his loved ones, but kills innocent people and makes them feel the same, and then cries about Nora, which is complete hypocrisy. I’m not saying anything deserves to happen to Nora, and freeze isn’t as evil as other Batman villains, but he is still a bad person.
Goddamn, the last tape strange really did put it how it is with victor and Nora and what victor could of been doing and not what he chose to do instead
Poor Mr. Freeze. All he ever wanted was to find a cure for his wife. He didn't asked to be a villain. He was just trying to save a life and some asshole had the nerve to call him a thief?! Ain't that a shame?!
admittedly it's quite a spotty story for Victor. Seriously, I think he could've gone to Wayne Enterprises and they would've helped in some way shape and form. Really bummed they didn't write that in, where Nora is magically cured and so is Victor. Would mean the end to Mr. Freeze but hell I would love to see a happy ending for good old Victor and Nora.
You know, listening to Strange's breaking speech or whatever describes it to Freeze reminds me a lot of what TV Tropes describes Gundam's Char Aznable character. He has issues too.
yeah, but that's the point. If somebody you love very much was going to die from an illness and you know the cure was just within your grasp, who wouldn't go to extreme lengths to save them?
@CheesyGranola Well Paul Dini wrote this game, who also reinvented his character in the Batman: The Animated Series episode "Heart of Ice." Although there are obvious differences between them, we can assume many similarities. In that episode, Victor didn't excactly steal company resources. The cryongenic project had been approved by Gothcorp executives, but when Ferris Boyle started realizing how much money it was costing he suspended the project. Unfortunately Nora was already frozen.
Still, the good point said by Strange is that IF Freeze had done what he did in the limits of the law (by trying to work with GothCorp, and by asking for help), it would have been faster to cure Nora. Besides, nothing says that Nora will be saved in the story of the Arkham-verse. But if they can do the same storyline the was continued with Batman Beyond (with Freeze deterioring, becoming mad, then being kept alive as a head and cloned in the future), that could be badass.
Too bad that in the comics, he's just a crazy asshole. Yeah, the whole thing about Nora? In the comics, he accidentaly kills her and just wants to make everyone suffer as much as he did. And while that makes the sympathy go out the window, atleast there is a sense of tragedy in it, since even at his worst, he was motivated by his loss and clearly still loved her. In the New 52, he never met Nora, he's just a creepy stalker.
ThePolishedSpartan My theory is that it's there because Snyder disliked fandom downplaying Victor's bad deeds (like when Grant Morrison made Magneto a fascist drug addict) or simply for the sake of a twist.
Markus Criticus i agree and you want to know something else before mr freezes story of him being a tragic human character with a wife he was just another b list villain no different than mr polka dot or crazy quilt in fact he was so unpopular dc was going to kill him off entirely it was this new tragic story that not only saved him from falling into obscurity but made him into one of the most popular batman villains ever so by Snyder and new 52s revision of mr freezes origins that completely spits in its mouth
Its actually a pattened plugin for a vocoder specific to the game. I doubt theyd ever release the plugin’s code/command prompt/settings to the Public. But im sure a talented guy out there somewhere can recreate it by sound recognition, and many monotonous hours of tedious tinkering though. Ive seen it done with others. Like the scream movie voice, Bane voice etc. Some people are so good, they can make an indistinguishable version so close to the original that you wouldnt be able to tell the difference. Hold out hope. Someone will do it at some point.
It is quite astonishing isn't it? When ever you look at someone like the joker, they don't have that sort of...character as Victor. And with Strange stirring things up it makes things rather interesting.
I believe Freeze just became far too fixated on saving Nora, to the point where it became his one goal in life that he couldn't accomplish and he couldn't abandon trying to find a cure for Nora otherwise she'd die .If that happened, he wouldn't value his life anymore as he failed and has literally has no purpose in life. Nora is Victor's lifeline.
Damn....I actually feel bad for Mr. Freeze. It wasn't his fault that he was brought into this way of life, he was only trying to help everyone, especially his own wife. But now I am starting to hate Hugo Strange for trying to play the psychoanalyst game on Mr. Freeze.
thank God the arkham series kept this backstory intact
@sixx87sixx Don't fix it. Amen brother
@@dimensionzone8048 Someone should’ve told that to Paul Dini himself. In 1997, he wrote a graphic novel called Batman: Mr. Freeze. That comic is basically a less good remake of Heart Of Ice.
I wish the new 52 did that instead of turning him into a psycho.
That what makes the Arkham series so good, they stay faithful to the original source material most of the time.
@@legoarkhamiteproductions4869 Ah I see mate
Freeze is by far the most sympathetic villain in Batman's rogue gallery.
He is scared of losing someone he loves and is willing to do whatever it takes to save them.
Feels weird to see Freeze portrayed any other way after the way Batman: TAS portrayed him.
what is TAS
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The Animated Series (from the 90s).
To be fair, the games took a lot of inspiration from the animated series.
Yep! What would you say if Christopher Eccleston played Freeze?
Even the voice actors lol
"Do you know what it's like to love someone? Really love them?"
"No."
- I love that response.
Of course Hugo Strange doesn't know. He's a scientist, and a madly devoted one at that.
StygianTraveler141 Not only that but Strange is evil and only cares about himself.
Xehanort10 No, I think he's just selfish, driven by his own ambition and purposes, not evil. Zsasz is Evil, Prof. Pyg is evil
StygianTraveler141 I don't really think it's as clear cut as that. Both those examples are insane and don't really think of what they're doing as bad.
UngeniousIdea Correction: CRIMINALLY insane. Doesn't mean they are not evil.
“No”
I love how quick Strange responds to the idea of love, he’s such a narcissist he can’t even entertain the possibility of loving someone else for a second
Shows exactly what Strange is: A tyrant and Arkham City was his kingdom. Batman was just there to de-throne him
@@aaronkenyon7112 and the King of Gotham annex Arkham City back to his kingdom
Hugo is more like a psychopath in my opinion. I think a narcissist is able to genuinely love someone, but psychopaths feel nothing. Of course, I could be wrong.
@@cashthecurator666 Narcissists are also unable to love anybody other than themselves.
@@jorgebersabe293 Like that jerk evil Thanos he wants to prove himself.
"Perhaps your ice princess would be at home now"
Probably one of the most evil things Hugo has said to someone. Surprised Victor didn't burst into tears
Does Freeze even have the ability to cry still?
Not his style. He's cold, angry.
@@gagecole4913 he does in the animated series at least. He cries at the end of Heart of Ice when he says ‘all I can do is beg your forgiveness and pray you can hear me somehow’ to Nora and I also think he cries at the end of Sub-Zero when he sees that Wayne Enterprises is funding loads of research to help with Nora’s condition
@@Bertiboy Wayne Enterprises does what it wants
@@Bertiboy wayne is basically WB
"Do you know what it is to love someone? To really love them?"
"No."
And that is why you will never understand Freeze, Strange.
💯
I like how Hugo just talk with Victor to help make things clearer for him. To let him see the whole picture.
The problem with Mr. Freeze is that he never stops to consider what Nora would say if she knew about all the destruction and death that he has caused just in an attempt to cure her.
one of my grandparents once told me that "Love is as wonderful as it is dangerous, and it can make you do stupid decisions on his name, sometimes really stupid ones"
Though Hugo Strange was cruel, he was right about Mr. Freeze blaming everyone for his own faults and being selfish.
He is a master of getting into someone's head.
***** All he wants is for his wife to be safe by any means necessary.
+HyperDragoonHx and for that he has done terrible things. The wrongs of another do not justify the wrongs you commit. Using loved ones as an excuse is a cop out.
EmptyMan000 Thank you
I'm sick and tired of Victor and his nonsensical pandering of his wife.Call me heartless,but Cold dick here just can't accept that he's not the only one going through all this shit called life.Everytime he gets caught or gets his ass hauled to arkham.He brings up Nora just to salvage a percentage of brownie points to make us feel sorry for him.I think he's just mad he can't fuck anyone else with a icicle
And yet for all his points, it all becomes moot when Hugo's cruelty gets the best of him and he does shit like handing Nora to Joker just because. In the end, Hugo's just another petty sociopath
I love that they used Dr.Freeze's origin from the animated series.
Tfw the cartoon did a better job than the comic/movies.
Yep! Why do you think this is widely accepted as the best superhero video game series ever made? Because of its attention to details that other Batman properties just overlook!
Agreed
2:33 me too
And his voice when the suits helmet is on. 🥶
Fries and Boyle. Those clever bastards, I never noticed that until just now.
???
@@susanstorm7910Fries is a pun on freeze and Boyle is a pun on boil
@@KaijuGal-rb9ekthat’s a very unique definition for the two characters
Fries' backstory has always been top-tier DC Writing.
And whenever any form of media utilises that into his character whenever he appears, you know they've got good writers.
I can't believe it's taken me this long to realise that Mr. FREEZE's target of revenge was Mr. BOYLE... bloody hell how tf did I not notice that?
Ferris Boyle aka The Humanitarian is the man responsible for turning Fries into a cold suited man, a corrupt villain making a tragic villain
Oh I get it now, because it could also be spelled BOIL, that’s clever.
I’m mister white Christmas… I’m mister snow!
Mr Freeze is always a gem to listen too, despite his voice being robotic and void of emotion on the surface, listening to what he has to say lets you know all of the heartache and pain that lies beneath the cold exterior
"Do you know what it is to love someone? To really love them?"
"No"
Strange has a point. the villain has a point.
Best Mr freeze Adaptation beside the animated series. the New 52 just screw everything what makes so a Tragic villain
Okay, Hugo was until now was a riot to enjoy studying the wackos, but this one he fucking cross the line.
I love how he sounds so businesslike and (dare I say it) a little cold, but then he talks about Nora, he sounds so...human. Especially after Strange tells him that the Joker took Nora.
This is why batman and his villains are such powerful characters. Unlike shows like justice league, superman, or even x-men, the villians in batman are so much the focus of there story, and these tragic characters, you can feel for many of them (not all, but many), ones like freeze, harley, two-face and others.
Mr. Freeze: a truly tragic romantic. So dark and cold, yet elegantly poetic. Sounds like the perfect role for Arnold Schwarzenegger!
wow.... poor mr freeze. really, the only reason he is doing what he does is to save his dying wife. and, once he knows she is safe, he would give up his life of crime and let himself be taken in to serve his time.
That's very true. I had a dream one time about the Lego Batman movie, but the focus was on freeze. At some point in the story, Freeze touches the glass chamber his wife is in, and remembers with guilt and shame earlier he aimed a weapon at Dick. What I'm trying to get to is that Barbara, the new commissoner, makes a deal with Freeze that if they give him all the resources he needs to save Nora, he'll have to dedicate the rest of his life to curing others of their diseases. Freeze immediatley said yes, because he only cares of Nora's endurance. His life afterwards doesn't matter.
supersmashbro596 he goes way too far though, he literally murders innocent people
In Gotham knights that did not happen even after Nora was cured.
I feel sorry for the poor man. Hugo Strange quite the villain, yet not even the civilians understand how he just wants to let people live and to save people from illness and death.
Mr. Freeze is such a well written character. He's one "villain" I've always respected. He's more of an Ani-Hero in my book. His methods maybe unorthodox but he means well. None of this would ever happen to him if people understood his pain.
I just like him for that FREEEEZE RAY!
Correction. VICTOR FRIES.
MarvelandDC379 no, he’s a villain. He’s literally willing to murder innocent people for his wife.
@@MarvelandDC379 Freeze's is a full villain, albeit a tragic one. He's not an irredeemable monster like the Joker or Strange, but he still could have chosen to avoid killing innocents, and he didn't.
Mr. Freeze like Poison Ivy weren't completely torn apart in their origins. They will help people. AS long as it supports their own cause. :P
gigas81 and bane, who helps you in a side mission or something in this game
Actually if you finish the side mission Bane turns against batman
Maggot Marrow *4 years later*
So would Poison Ivy.....
Poison ivy barely does anything good
@@christianchappell4193
To humanity perhaps
She's an extreme environmentalist
I have to admit I cried at parts!
Which ones
Mr. Freeze is such an incredible and interesting character, he'd do anything for Nora, that's true love
You know who I think would make an excellent Mr. Freeze? Alan Rickman (Snape)
+James Michel DEFINATELY! There are no live action Mr. Fries other than the one from1997 of batman and robin which sucked. Alan Rickman is the man for the job. It's perfect.
+James Michel oh... that's awkward now isn't it
I know. I don't like to be reminded.
+James Michel Yeah..He would have been :(
parag3247 I know, now I'm not so sure I even want to make my remake of "Batman and Robin"
"Strange was right about evil Thanos, who blamed the survivors." For Seflish reasons.
He is roghrZ
You know, these tapes show me good in Hugo Strange. He may be a villain, but is still a psychiatrist doing his duty. In this case, he criticized Mr. Freeze's life about his errors and told us of important lessons.
When we have ignorance, we tend to blame others for our mistakes.
Instead of stealing from others because of mistrust, we could just share with them our gifts. Maybe even one day, we would be rewarded by karma.
Mr. Freeze is one of my villain faves, but Strange just made himself more interesting.
Yeah, then he revealed he stole Victor's wife and delivered her to joker.
I really, really regret that we aren't going to be seeing Scarecrow and Hugo Strange in an interview.
Wonder what old Hugo's deepest, darkest fears are...
Freeze is one of my favorite villains in the Rogue's Gallery. He's a heartbroken lover who will do anything to get his wife back, and I mean _anything._ Murder, theft, kidnapping, torture, terrorism - he's crosses so many lines at this point, why not? His chief weakness is his persistent obsession with reviving Nora; otherwise, he's a supergenius in power armor. Piss him off, see what happens.
Bless him, he has such a tragic life
never realized his past was sad and gruesome too before meeting Nora or becoming what he is. 6:35 I really look forward to that dlc story for Origins! Might be spoiling here of course but hey could be different when Batman first goes up against him! Hope it plays out like that classic episode.
after seeing the trailer it might be better.^^
You actually do get to fight Freeze. :)
you know...i feel bad for Freeze. all he wants to do is save his wife. but Batman or Hugo Strange or the Joker or whoever keeps delaying that. by the time he finds a cure for his wife he'll be an old man(if Freeze can age that is) Gotham will have taller buildings and advance tech and Nora will wonder what the hell happen while she was in Cryo sleep. Arkham doesn't have the heart to give Freeze a lab so he can work on the cure while serving his time in prison? heartless assholes. >:/
***** Batman understands his criminal intent. He just stops his intent from killing anyone.
he wasn't a criminal before.
Strange really knows how to toy with these guys' minds, doesn't he?
Poor Freeze, all he wanted was to save his wife. Although, I wonder how she'll react to his current apperance if he managed to save her.
Don't think too much into it. A good friend of mine has tried it already.
It's actually revealed in a comic book that Nora is fully aware of what has been happening while frozen
I imagine she'd take a step back, hands covering her mouth. Then reaching out to touch him.
You got your answer in Season of Infamy
Check Arkham Knight.
I feel the same way. There are few people in the world who would genuinely care about someone else that much. Poor, poor Victor Fries. :(
Strange was 1000% correct. He does have a stone cold heart. And the only reason why he loved Nora so much is really cause he's never really loved or cared about anything or anyone besides himself until he met her. And he actually believes that no one has ever loved anyone the way he loves his wife. Which is stupid, nonsense, and almost narcissistic even. Saving her life is more for his own sake than it is hers
Strange is partially correct but compared to all of the interviews he does, you can hear the frustration in his tone when he talks to Mr Freeze. I think it's because he's a sociopath who doesn't care about other people at all and has no compassion. He's never loved anyone whereas Mr Freeze is the opposite. His whole life he did crimes to help other people whether it was to save animals or his wife.
Strange is annoyed by this and gaslights Mr Freeze into thinking he's a selfish person when he's really not. He is a criminal yes but he didn't commit crimes because they were fun or to enrich himself but he had a desperate need to help others but just did it the wrong away. To Strange, he's triggered that Mr Freeze wasted his genius on helping others instead of helping himself
That's actually the angle they play with Mr. Freeze in his One Bad Day comic. It's clear he loves Nora, but in a very possessive way. Almost like she's his property. Still, you see that Nora did love the man under the need for strict control, and hopes he can be the man she fell in love with again
@@Spongebrain97 He is really selfish. he really is.
@@Spongebrain97 he did commit crimes.
@@GirlsBravoanimecrossover-cf5kl Strange has a point. about mr freeze.
Freeze reminds me of Doctor Connors, both are scientists and family men who became victims of their own creation that end up ruining their lives and their families while on the eternal search for a cure
Except Connor’s is not in full control of the Lizard nor does he want to be the Lizard. Freeze always has a choice
@@JDog2656 You always had a choice.
@@Eljorindo1243Gadget-walk-wt1mu not always.
@@JDog2656 Yes always.
@@JEAMillennial13 tell that to Kilgrave and Jessica Jones
Doesn't change the fact that Hugo was absolutely right though. All Freeze could say in response was "rawr revenge" in some form or another, never disputing what Hugo tells him.
Granted, it doesn't help that I have little sympathy for characters who constantly go "boo hoo, poor me" yet don't give a scuttering fuck about who they hurt to achieve their goal. It's also one of the reasons who I dislike Harley as well.
He will do what is necessary for the one that he loves... Even lose his soul in the process.... sadness is the price to see it all end.
What a loyalty Mister Freeze from his wife. T_T
You have always had a "Heart of Ice" batman TAS reference FTW
Mr. Freeze always been one of my favorite batman villain' of all time one of the reason why cause he's not really a villain he does what he does for love
He sounds like a Cyberman. It's such a great voice that you wouldn't think is intimidating out of context.
One thing that I love about Freeze is that he's a much MUCH better take on essentially The Mummy. A man driven to incredible lengths to bring back the only woman he ever loved......going so far that not even death itself could stop him. Imhotep had his Ankhesenamun, Victor has his Nora. Unfortunately, their end is always tragic.....they are destined to lose their only love, and in the process...lose themselves.
out of all the batman villains i had the most sympathy for Freeze
Mr Freeze is one of my favorite Batmanvillains because from Batman TAS when he apperared in the episode Heart of Ice and that's my favorite episode :)
Maurice LeMarche sounds like Michael Ansara's Mr Freeze voice from Batman TAS and i think he did a fantastic job :) !
Conversation between my two favorite batman villians right here.
Dr. Frieze would have murdered Strange as soon as he gave up Noras location.
Mr freeze isn't evil he wouldn't kill without a reason
I wish I could transform my metabolism.
Want it I in real lifeZ
I do feel for him, but he's still evil. He's willing to trade one innocent life for another
Thank god Arkham Origins DLC cold cold heart connected his backstory to these Arkham city audio tapes.
God i love his voice
Me too
Poor Freeze, at least we know he's not really a villain. Just does what he does because of his wife. And he does help batman in the game.
I love this Freeze's voice. And FUCK Hugo is a bastard!
I like to think of this Fries as Calculon's early role.
3:22 By far the Funniest Conversation i've ever seen in any arkham game.
Do you know what it is to love someone? to really love them?
*N o .*
Victor's selfishness is more him being impatient and hot-tempered (ironic for a cold man)
Victor is not selfish he is misunderstood.
Freeze is a cold man with a warm heart, Strange is a warm man with a cold heart.
@@jorgebersabe293 idiocy.
@@jorgebersabe293 Freeze is a cold man with a cold heart, and Strange is a warm man with a cold heart.
@@ElJodinro1353-xl5bm Do you tell that to anyone who disagrees with you?
Mr.Freeze is Awesome!
If only Victor went to Wayne Tech.
freeis boyle?
ARKHAM ORIGINS COLD COLD HEART
Or.. BATMAN THE ANIMATED SEIRES HEART OF ICE
Both, both are good.
Mister freeze is the only one who has a real love story in Batman. As Hugo said, only thing freeze need is time
Strange is right... to a degree; there's no denying what Victor did was wrong; stealing funds, freezing neighbors' pets as a boy...
But unlike most of Batman's rogues' gallery, he did it with the best intentions, not wicked ones.
Strange is right that he should have consorted with others instead of embezzling money from GothCorp... but he is wrong that Victor is entirely responsible for all that has gone wrong in his life. He loved Nora, and when you touch her, you -will- find a heart of ice.
Worst intentions.
Bad intentions.
Not everything, but definitely a good chunk of the problems he has.
If I could sound like Mr. Freeze in my everyday life I would.
Strange does have a point Mr freeze and evil Zemo.
Point taken ninja.
And let's not forget that Batman had Boyle arrested for kidnapping Nora, not taking any damned regard for her life, blind greed, and nearly killing her AND Freeze.
Charlotte A. Cavatica and your defending freeze who killed innocent people? Your just as bad as he is
@@pamelasymonds2147 Freeze only did that stuff because he was desperate to save his wife.
Charlotte A. Cavatica he’s still killing innocent people, that makes him wrong and selfish. You need help
@@pamelasymonds2147 I'm fine. He never meant to hurt people. And besides, Batman is doing his best to help Mr. Freeze quit his life of crime and most of the time help fix Nora.
Charlotte A. Cavatica he is selfish, he always gets upset about losing his loved ones, but kills innocent people and makes them feel the same, and then cries about Nora, which is complete hypocrisy. I’m not saying anything deserves to happen to Nora, and freeze isn’t as evil as other Batman villains, but he is still a bad person.
I like how even though he's supposed to be American, in most media, he's portrayed as having an English accent.
Not english he has a Frasier accent or "posh American"
@@iama2509 It doesn't resemble an American accent at all. None of the usual pronunciations are present.
It looks like Mr. Freeze discussed the events of Arkham origins
Goddamn, the last tape strange really did put it how it is with victor and Nora and what victor could of been doing and not what he chose to do instead
Wow. Even as a young boy he wanted to preserve life by freezing it
Poor freeze I feel sorry for him and his accident
Save her wife and people.
i read all these lines in Arnold Schwarzenegger's voice, and it sounded 10 times more epic.
Heh…a man named Frieze has an enemy named Boyle
Time is not on your side, Victor.
You dont want Freeze to kill people, you want him to redeem himself, tou want him to cure Nora
Poor Mr. Freeze. All he ever wanted was to find a cure for his wife. He didn't asked to be a villain. He was just trying to save a life and some asshole had the nerve to call him a thief?! Ain't that a shame?!
admittedly it's quite a spotty story for Victor. Seriously, I think he could've gone to Wayne Enterprises and they would've helped in some way shape and form. Really bummed they didn't write that in, where Nora is magically cured and so is Victor. Would mean the end to Mr. Freeze but hell I would love to see a happy ending for good old Victor and Nora.
Mr. Freeze has the saddest life.
6:44 gets me every time when I listen to mister freeze’s backstory.
You know, listening to Strange's breaking speech or whatever describes it to Freeze reminds me a lot of what TV Tropes describes Gundam's Char Aznable character. He has issues too.
so this is what the whole cold heart DLC about in origins
yeah, but that's the point. If somebody you love very much was going to die from an illness and you know the cure was just within your grasp, who wouldn't go to extreme lengths to save them?
His voice sounds like a Cyberman in this - fucking terrifying.
two words: Nora FIELDS. There's literally nothing worse they could've done to such a good tragical character.
Mr. Freeze doing Richard O’Brien’s voice in Rocky Horror Picture Show.
Arkham origins cold cold heart dlc is described here
@CheesyGranola Well Paul Dini wrote this game, who also reinvented his character in the Batman: The Animated Series episode "Heart of Ice." Although there are obvious differences between them, we can assume many similarities.
In that episode, Victor didn't excactly steal company resources. The cryongenic project had been approved by Gothcorp executives, but when Ferris Boyle started realizing how much money it was costing he suspended the project. Unfortunately Nora was already frozen.
STRANGE WAS RIGHT.
yep.
He sounds like c3po translating the sith language in the 9th Star Wars movie
Still, the good point said by Strange is that IF Freeze had done what he did in the limits of the law (by trying to work with GothCorp, and by asking for help), it would have been faster to cure Nora. Besides, nothing says that Nora will be saved in the story of the Arkham-verse. But if they can do the same storyline the was continued with Batman Beyond (with Freeze deterioring, becoming mad, then being kept alive as a head and cloned in the future), that could be badass.
Too bad that in the comics, he's just a crazy asshole. Yeah, the whole thing about Nora? In the comics, he accidentaly kills her and just wants to make everyone suffer as much as he did. And while that makes the sympathy go out the window, atleast there is a sense of tragedy in it, since even at his worst, he was motivated by his loss and clearly still loved her. In the New 52, he never met Nora, he's just a creepy stalker.
ThePolishedSpartan My theory is that it's there because Snyder disliked fandom downplaying Victor's bad deeds (like when Grant Morrison made Magneto a fascist drug addict) or simply for the sake of a twist.
ThePolishedSpartan But it's not like there was some popular, definitive version of the Dollmaker that they were poorly aping by doing that.
Not to mention in the new 52 is costume looks terrible.
Markus Criticus i agree and you want to know something else before mr freezes story of him being a tragic human character with a wife he was just another b list villain no different than mr polka dot or crazy quilt in fact he was so unpopular dc was going to kill him off entirely it was this new tragic story that not only saved him from falling into obscurity but made him into one of the most popular batman villains ever so by Snyder and new 52s revision of mr freezes origins that completely spits in its mouth
Markus Criticus New 52 is possibly the worst thing to happen to DC comcis.
*sniff* I know, right? Choosing a more sympathetic reading to his character really helps you see the virtue behind his "mad experiments".
Does anyone know how they filtered mister freeze's voice to achieve that robotic effect?
Yes I too am very, very interested.
Hau5ratz it's very nice
They actually had to put shit in his mouth to create the robotic voice
Its actually a pattened plugin for a vocoder specific to the game. I doubt theyd ever release the plugin’s code/command prompt/settings to the Public. But im sure a talented guy out there somewhere can recreate it by sound recognition, and many monotonous hours of tedious tinkering though. Ive seen it done with others. Like the scream movie voice, Bane voice etc. Some people are so good, they can make an indistinguishable version so close to the original that you wouldnt be able to tell the difference. Hold out hope. Someone will do it at some point.
Kelsey Grammer (Frasier) would make perfect Dr. Strange.
It is quite astonishing isn't it? When ever you look at someone like the joker, they don't have that sort of...character as Victor. And with Strange stirring things up it makes things rather interesting.
Hugo Strange makes a good point: Freeze did kind of contribute to Nora's predicament with his thievery.
How tragic, though. :(
I believe Freeze just became far too fixated on saving Nora, to the point where it became his one goal in life that he couldn't accomplish and he couldn't abandon trying to find a cure for Nora otherwise she'd die .If that happened, he wouldn't value his life anymore as he failed and has literally has no purpose in life. Nora is Victor's lifeline.
because he never really cared for anyone else or life to begin with. One person cannot encompass your reality
freeze is selfish reasons.
yep.
3:20 based Strange
Damn....I actually feel bad for Mr. Freeze. It wasn't his fault that he was brought into this way of life, he was only trying to help everyone, especially his own wife. But now I am starting to hate Hugo Strange for trying to play the psychoanalyst game on Mr. Freeze.
It is mr freeze fault.
I feel bad for freeze, and I believe he does love his wife,
...but at the same time I think strange does have a small point at the end....