Thank you so much for this video. If only I had seen it earlier. I have wasted days trying to install it the same as a non-overflow sink. The leaking was incredible. Now I can do it the right way just by increasing the size of the hole. This is great.
Hey, great explanation! I have watched this video and several others before i had tile on the counter top! Well now i am 2 days of trying to understand what I did wrong! and now I totally understand! Because I have never done this, and though you are very clear on the connection, i thought the nut had to press against the bottom of the counter top in order to hold the sink down! Now i have to cut away the counter, the backer board, the thin set and then the travertine tile!!! without breaking any of the tile our grout! i know i can replace the grout, but i cannot get one more piece of this tile. I am going to ask The Lord to help me get this mess fixed without breaking anything. Thank you for your video. Lesson learned. :)
thank you for the great video, I have the same sink and have been trying to tell our countertop guy that the hole needs to be bigger to be able to fit that nut in the hole as well.
huge help to now hear the difference between the installation of the two types of drains. My sink has an overflow but the pop up drain is not an overflow type. I guess I just buy another? Or can one drill a hole in the drain tubing at the level where the sink overflow enters the tube?
Why does drain nut not go high enough to tighten and cover/seal overflow? It looks like it needs an extension from sink drain hole for this to work? Should I be using a drain w/o overflow instead? Thanks for your video!
My sink doesn’t have an overflow, so I would tighten the nut directly to the underside of the granite countertop. The problem I have is that the threaded drain spout isn’t long enough to both secure the sink to the countertop and to also attach the last part of the drain spout to ultimately connect the p-trap. Is there an extender? Is there a combination part that is a nut and p-trap connector so that more of the threaded spout isn’t needed?
I get confused ... does the overflow hole in the drain pipe have to lineup with the overflow in the sink. Makes sense to me --- my condo super says not a must.
You can be Jerry's twin brother from realtree vintage electronics. You also sound and talk the same way. Wen rhe way you carry yourself and also meticulous when assembling things and cover every possible fault. You should call him cause you might be brothers
Why didnt you installed pop up away from the counter and then simply slide it into the hole to connect it to the drain (and silicononing to the counter in between)? That way the hole would be smaller and neater and installation would be easier. Isn't it?
Because that would be too easy! :) the downside I was would see to your approach would be that if someone wanted to change that drain in the future they wouldn't be able to do it or it would be more difficult because they would have to enlarge the hole in the countertop at that time to access it
I'm trying to install it by mounting it underneath the granite to lock it in. With the overflow, I suppose the washer and nut needs to be directly under the sink to keep it from leaking. The granite company did not make the hole big enough, but they tell me they did. You're saying they need to make the hole big enough to fit that drain nut in it to mount properly. It gets confusing when people steer you wrong. Thanks for the video!
Because I was working with a laminate top, I was able to modify it myself. Again, because of the overflow, it changes the situation. Without the overflow, the granite would be right.
That is exactly what I did, I have the longer threads, 3"s but with the nut under the granite, when the water goes into the overflow, or out the overflow flow that matter, it leaks. I think it's cause there is no gasket/nut combo directly under the sink to hold the water in. Am I right? I'm thinking the hole would have to be bigger to allow the nut to be directly under the sink, not below the granite with an overflow vessel sink.
+eatdust1973 Yes that's correct. With a vessel sink with an overflow, the nut has to be right up against the sink, so getting a longer thread body would NOT work.
You could add a second nut to the waste thread, after fitting the first one to the underside of the sink to make the seal, as long as the waste thread is long enough, this would then use the same hole in the countertop to secure the sink to it. You may need the use a router to take a small amount of the countertop material away around the top of the hole, to allow the first nut to clear the countertop, so that the sink can sit flat on to the countertop.
Thank you so much for this video. If only I had seen it earlier. I have wasted days trying to install it the same as a non-overflow sink. The leaking was incredible. Now I can do it the right way just by increasing the size of the hole. This is great.
Just the information I needed; I wasn't sure how to install a vessel sink with overflow. Thanks so much!
After a few videos I figured this would have to be the solution but I didn’t find confirmation until your video...thanks sir!
How did you persuade the rat to chew out that hole instead of using a drill
Peanut butter will do the trick.
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Hey, great explanation! I have watched this video and several others before i had tile on the counter top! Well now i am 2 days of trying to understand what I did wrong! and now I totally understand! Because I have never done this, and though you are very clear on the connection, i thought the nut had to press against the bottom of the counter top in order to hold the sink down! Now i have to cut away the counter, the backer board, the thin set and then the travertine tile!!! without breaking any of the tile our grout! i know i can replace the grout, but i cannot get one more piece of this tile. I am going to ask The Lord to help me get this mess fixed without breaking anything. Thank you for your video. Lesson learned. :)
thank you for the great video, I have the same sink and have been trying to tell our countertop guy that the hole needs to be bigger to be able to fit that nut in the hole as well.
How do you replace pop-up drain on these types of sinks?
huge help to now hear the difference between the installation of the two types of drains. My sink has an overflow but the pop up drain is not an overflow type. I guess I just buy another? Or can one drill a hole in the drain tubing at the level where the sink overflow enters the tube?
Maybe. Let me know if it works!
Why does drain nut not go high enough to tighten and cover/seal overflow?
It looks like it needs an extension from sink drain hole for this to work?
Should I be using a drain w/o overflow instead?
Thanks for your video!
Thanks. trying to install it onto a glass top and the hole must big large enough tio allow the nut to pass through. Great!
Thanks. This video helped me.
Thanks racking my brain on why company says a 3in hole for a vessel without overflow. Must be just generic instructions
Thank you for proving to my plumbing I'm not crazy... they are convinced I was crazy!
Thanks, that's all that I need to know!!!
Very helpful thanks!
Thank you
I'm putting my vessel sink on a slate topped vanity. Do you recommend silicone as the best adhesive for that?
Yes
Thanks, you showed more the Lowes.
My sink doesn’t have an overflow, so I would tighten the nut directly to the underside of the granite countertop.
The problem I have is that the threaded drain spout isn’t long enough to both secure the sink to the countertop and to also attach the last part of the drain spout to ultimately connect the p-trap.
Is there an extender? Is there a combination part that is a nut and p-trap connector so that more of the threaded spout isn’t needed?
Yes you can buy an extender
@@prokitchenbuilders I guess Home Depot carries something that I need?
Depends on if you need a slip fitting or a threaded one. HD carries many varieties of slip fitting extention tubes
@@prokitchenbuilders I’m going to need a threaded one. I’m sure I’ll find something. I’ll just take the drain part with me when I go.
I get confused ... does the overflow hole in the drain pipe have to lineup with the overflow in the sink. Makes sense to me --- my condo super says not a must.
You can be Jerry's twin brother from realtree vintage electronics. You also sound and talk the same way. Wen rhe way you carry yourself and also meticulous when assembling things and cover every possible fault. You should call him cause you might be brothers
Why didnt you installed pop up away from the counter and then simply slide it into the hole to connect it to the drain (and silicononing to the counter in between)? That way the hole would be smaller and neater and installation would be easier. Isn't it?
Because that would be too easy! :)
the downside I was would see to your approach would be that if someone wanted to change that drain in the future they wouldn't be able to do it or it would be more difficult because they would have to enlarge the hole in the countertop at that time to access it
I'm trying to install it by mounting it underneath the granite to lock it in. With the overflow, I suppose the washer and nut needs to be directly under the sink to keep it from leaking. The granite company did not make the hole big enough, but they tell me they did. You're saying they need to make the hole big enough to fit that drain nut in it to mount properly. It gets confusing when people steer you wrong. Thanks for the video!
Because I was working with a laminate top, I was able to modify it myself. Again, because of the overflow, it changes the situation. Without the overflow, the granite would be right.
That is exactly what I did, I have the longer threads, 3"s but with the nut under the granite, when the water goes into the overflow, or out the overflow flow that matter, it leaks. I think it's cause there is no gasket/nut combo directly under the sink to hold the water in. Am I right? I'm thinking the hole would have to be bigger to allow the nut to be directly under the sink, not below the granite with an overflow vessel sink.
+eatdust1973 Yes that's correct. With a vessel sink with an overflow, the nut has to be right up against the sink, so getting a longer thread body would NOT work.
You could add a second nut to the waste thread, after fitting the first one to the underside of the sink to make the seal, as long as the waste thread is long enough, this would then use the same hole in the countertop to secure the sink to it.
You may need the use a router to take a small amount of the countertop material away around the top of the hole, to allow the first nut to clear the countertop, so that the sink can sit flat on to the countertop.