I'm Uber's latest SEC filing, they have stated that they have raised their rates to customers while lowering their pay to drivers. They initially used millions and millions of investor money to subsidize driver pay and to subsidize customer cost in order to attract drivers and customers and make them dependent upon Uber. Drivers invested in their jobs by purchasing new cars, some very high end, and many customers moved or took jobs because they could afford to use Uber. It almost feels like a bait and switch.
The the problem is that these app companies like Uber and Lyft , label drivers as independent contractors and treat them as employees, I am a driver my self for Uber and Lyft , there is a lot of manipulation in the drivers app , we want a hybrid model , similar to the one in Washington state , we want to have a full independent contractors status , not half , we want 100% and be treated as such , trick these companies use was similar to what drug dealers do , they go around give drugs for free , once they have you trapped they will do what ever they what including rise the price of the product , now people don’t wanna go back to taxis and drivers like quick cash everyday so we are all hooked, the other issues , Uber and Lyft commissions used to be 20% of what the riders paid , now is between 50% and 75% , Lyft now came up with a new way to scam drivers , it’s called Lyft new commitment, in which hey claim they drivers will always get 70% of what the riders paid AFTER EXTERNAL FEES, now that’s the big lie , example , drivers take a long trip of 2 hours going outside the city , passengers paid $300 , Lyfts takes about $49 for comercial insurance, booking fees and others fees , at the end they end up taking half or more of what the passengers paid , sometimes we the drivers feel like we are just working to pull gas in the tank in order to continue driving the next day , again, we are all hooked to these apps , it’s was a trap
The classification must be independent contractors, period. I have been driving for Uber for over 7 years, and it is the best thing that has happened to me.
No, I don't want to be an employee but they do need regulated for how much they take and how little they offer drivers doesn't even come close to min wages
@@sgtpepperz25 but, if you do that, Uber lowers your "acceptance rate percentage". Uber then offers you fewer and fewer rides...squeezing you out...(This algorithm applies to all drivers)... Uber uses this to method to force drivers to accept lower rates or quit. Collectively, all drivers are being forced to accept Uber's rates, removing the "independent contractor's" choice of pay rate, and treating them like an employee. An employee has no say in pay rate, where an independent contractor would be able to choose their pay rate. Uber, using these tactics, are turning independent contractors into employees without declaring them as employees. Further, This is just one tactic that Uber uses to blur the line between employee and independent contractor.
They claim we are not employees but there app is full of restrictions on what we can and can't do. That sounds to me like an employer. They're ripping us drivers off for years, enough is enough!
Rideshare Professor says the problem is that Uber and Lyft call drivers independent contractors but don’t treat them as such since they control everything. If drivers were being treated like independent contractors, they would be able to set their own rates, decide where to go and who to pick up without retaliation, etc….
E Toro = you set your own rates, E toro doesn't set the rates. E bay = you set your own rates, Ebay doesn't set the rates. Air BnB = you set your own rates, Air BnB doesn't set the rates. Uber & Lyft is the opposite = they set the rates for both the buyer and the seller and they make a profit as the employer - obviously.
As a long time rideshare driver with over 10k rides under my belt I stopped Uber last year because they gutted our pay and lie about everything they say!!! The whole bs line about “flexible work “ is a red herring… if you don’t work during high demand hours you starve!
For years they used investment dollars to subsidize driver pay and even subsidize what customers pay for rides. In Uber's latest SEC filing, they come right out and say that they have raised customer rates (55%) while simultaneously lowering the payments to drivers significantly. People have been driving for these companies for years and have invested themselves by buying new, expensive cars/SUVs and some have even moved to more lucrative cities. People qualified for 30 year mortgages based upon their 5+ years as drivers. Then, the rug gets pulled out from under them. In no other industry would state and the national legislatures allow companies to slash 67- 78% of its employees' wages while stuffing half a billion dollars in annual salaries into its ceo's pockets. To anyone who says, "Well, you don't have to do it," I ask-- if your company/boss spent 18-24 months slowly reducing your pay by 2% every two weeks or every month without giving you notice, you'd likely complain a bit and when your boss told you to leave if you weren't happy, you'd likely just adjust your budget. Now, let's suppose you're a single parent and you need to keep your job with this boss because he allows you to start work after your kids go to school and let's you finish when schools our and allows you time off to go to their sporting games, plays, twacher-parwnt conferences, etc. You'd be willing to give up that 2% loss continue because you could not work anywhere else and pay childcare and transportation costs. In no other large industry would the US legislature allow a company to charge consumers substantially more while substantially cutting employee pay if that company or industry was also paying out unexpectedly large dividend to shareholders with their ceo's taking the #2 and #6 sits of the highest paid... And that's without even legislators considering the impact to communities who need these services. Imagine if a natural gas or electric company did this. I'm just amazed at the stupidity of people who say delivery drivers are independent contractors and they don't have to do these jobs. Well, fine. Those single parents driving can just apply for tax dollars for welfare programs and they can also take tax dollars for unemployment. Why would anyone be a delivery driver and invest in reliable transportation when literally accepting government help brings in more money to the household.... These are the issues that are involved in congressional oversight. It's no different that the federal government providing a portion of someone's retirement pension when the corporation goes BK. This is just another form of taking dollars from the middle class in the form of taxes and redistributing those tax dollars to the wealthy in the form of tax subsidies to wealthy corporations. For example, Elon Musk's company receives $500 million in tax subsidies (from tax payers) to produce a rocket. Then, his company turns around and sells that rocket back the US govt who uses even more US taxpayer money to buy it. That is simply the US govt redistributing wealth from the average, middle class to the wealthy. Almost seems like a bait n switch
@@ChickensAndGardening Have you ever been a proper contractor? I have. I owned a company that put in industrial epoxy floor coatings in US airport hangars for every major US airline. Receiving the contract meant I had to follow federal and individual state labor laws. I could not have someone working for my company that wasn't earning, at least, the state's minimum wage. In the beginning , when I did subcontracting work for other contractors, every employee had to make the state minimum (this is something I never concerned myself with because even the grunt work was paid more than twice the individual state's requirements). If I was a subcontractor and was caught not paying minimum wages, the contractor could also be held responsible for the violation. I really don't understand how these rideshare and delivery companies do this.
Not sure that is employee/employer relationship, just a special agreement with the platform...Not sure of all the details in your case, but employers don't rent cars or assist, and this probably is through a third-party...Employees are told when to work, how long, what to do, and what to wear...They report to direct supervisors
How much should a tech company charge for its software? Why does the tech company control the pricing between the rider and the driver? Why can't the contractors set their own rates? The main issue now is driver pay, especially in midsize markets where the number of rides varies from 0-4 per hour. For instance, rides that pay $4 might make sense, but not under the current conditions where these rides take between 15-30 minutes to complete. Full-time drivers are pushing for change, arguing that if they were employees, they could unionize and negotiate better pay standards.
I can tell you as an Uber driver. I am not allowed to adjust my price when gas goes up or when gas goes down. I cannot adjust my price for the cost-of-living going up. For the cost of maintenance on the vehicle. For the cost of insurance and registration. The only independence they allow is to work when you want by turning the phone on or off. In my eyes, I am not an independent contractor.
Uber and Lyft together have lost $50 billion dollars so far, that’s really impressive considering they pay the drivers less than minimum wage after you account for the cost of owning and driving your own car. The IRS allows ride share drivers 62 cents per mile as a standard deduction. Most drivers are paid about a dollar a mile, resulting in net pay of 40 cents per mile. I have driven for 6 years and will not be driving again until the pay goes up. Ride share companies exploit first generation immigrants flagrantly, how many unreported 1099’S do you think Uber etc. have sent out ? It’s the reason that taxi companies are struggling, you can’t operate a business at a loss unless you’re a tech company SPAC with endless stupid investors. I would like to see the commonwealth prevail and force them to become employers. If they leave it would be the kick in the ass that they need, the money that people are spending on ride share is significant and it is not being spent on public transportation or profit making taxi companies, it is a pandora’s box that needs regulation.
This being Massachusetts, of course they will force the ride share companies to become employers. Likely they will pull out of the state at that point.
We are dealing with this in CA right now. Our state Supreme Court just heard the oral arguments yesterday so we shall see how it plays out. Keep in mind the state has their own motives as to why they want drivers to become employees which is to get there payroll taxes that they aren’t getting right now. My view is that the employee model is not the way to go, but to have a hybrid model of IC work coupled with extended benefits and higher pay. Imagine receiving a ride request that is 3 hours away and you have to accept it because you can no longer decline rides. It just doesn’t make sense.
The only thing we the driver asking is to get pay more money for example when the driver pay $10 we only get paid $3.80 We should get paid 80 or 90% becaus There's one pay for the car for gas for the time they're putting for Mining the car in everything else
As early as 2015 we did get paid 80% of the fare upfront. Uber got into the food delivery business and they were taking millions of dollars in losses on food that wasn’t delivered or not picked up at the restaurant due to the low pay of the order. So Uber had to find money somewhere so it started taking money from rideshare drivers to augment their failing food delivery service. Remember, if an Uber eats order does not get picked up from the restaurant or deliverd to the customer, Uber must pay the customer back for that food either by a credit to their Uber eats account or to a reversal of a credit card charge.
What's going on in Rhode Island? Heard it's soon going to be a felony for any rider to request an Independent contractor. So... after all these riders have been gouged by Uber, and so-called "independent contractors" identifying as drivers on the Uber app, whom have never truly been treated as independent contractors, have both finally been heard through all these protests! YAY!! However, instead of penalizing the drivers and riders, why don't you first get Uber to pay back the states to fix the roads & bridges? And also make them pay back drivers for not honoring the true definition of independent contractor, since so many misclassification suits against Uber are forced thru arbitration and is binding so Uber is not held responsible for sabotaging the transportation industry, beginning with the taxi cab companies? Rhode Island is going to further harm their own communities by making it a FELONY for ANY PURCHASER of goods or services from any "Independent Contractor!! INSANITY. Is this the ultimate goal for Minnesota? To allow Uber to destroy the states of our country from within? Uber started all this mess. Are all the people living on the East Coast losing their minds? One-third of Rhode Island's population are independent contractors...for REAL, providing goods and services to all their neighbors, friends, family, as well as elected officials and complete strangers! And now Massachusettes is trying to create new labor laws, like Rhode Island, to punish the purchaser? Just punish Uber and let the drivers be their own boss and take care of their own business. Uber is not God. And Uber is not the 4th branch of government. And Uber should have to compete for customers in the market place against other Rideshare apps (companies), as well as private livery drivers with their own cars, as well as Independent Truckers and independent medical health transportation providers. Protect the people's freedoms to work and create business, not the corporation trying to put Fed Ex, UPS, Amazon Flex and thousands of people out of work. Wake up! Everyone knew what an employee was and what an independent contractor was BEFORE uber was invented. E v e r y o n e. Uber isn't so uber anymore. Read Uberland by Alex Rosenblat published in 2018. She exposed it all and government officials did nothing back then. Uber is forcing all complaints by drivers into arbitration. Dara said it would take an act of Congress to make them change their business model, SO CHANGE THE BUSINESS MODEL, not punish the people of Rhode Island OR Massachusettes. Check out newjobsAmerica.com. That's where the info on Rhode Island was found.
Drivers elsewhere will have their pay reduced to pay for this. When the lawsuits began, all companies started matching each others $2 base pay on food deliveries. When that wasn’t enough they started paying $1 each for stacked orders.
I've been an independent contractor my whole life. Residential construction. And the main reason for being an independent contractor is you get to negotiate your contract. It says it in the title. Uber and Lyft there is no negotiation therefore you are an employee a low-level expendable employee. When they started out it was an 80/20 split. Uber and Lyft. And the way bill was itemized and you seen where all of the money for the fair went. Fast forward to today you're lucky if you get 50% of the fair. Just ask your passenger what they paid for the ride. Lyft says they guarantee you 70% or more of the fair after we take out what we want. WTF is that. I hate to say it but Uber and Lyft need to get Godsmack. Instead of them paying off all of these politicians and judges why don't they just do it fair for the driver the one who's taking all the risk putting up all the money for the vehicle and the insurance the maintenance.
I do not want to be an employee. I would like to set per mile/per minute rates for me and my vehicle, and let the customer choose to ride with me or not.
ubers greed is causing their demise, all they had to do is let drivers use their platform for a monthly fee or take a 15% out of every ride and allow the drivers to set their prices smh.
The app should only connect the driver to passengers. They can be the in liaison for background checks and to VERIFY commercial insurance. That’s it. They need to let go of the riders purse strings by claiming rides are $100 and then paying the driver $30.
Something I can’t understand, if a $15 dollars minimum wage is approved, it is still not $15 minimum wage, because drivers use their own car 😂😂 so it is still paying for work 😂😂
You have to call their bluff...uber and lyft will not leave any state because the investors who back them up will lose tons of money..plus this lady is clueless
@SEIKAVXokay do you care to explain what the hell you're talking about because you ain't making any sense how the hell does Uber and Lyft got anything to do with national security.
This was tried in California. Uber and Lyft left for a little bit until their lawyers were able to carve out enought exceptions to render the new employee laws useless. This will only happen again. Once this blows over in Massachusetts, ill be there laughing.
@@paulluna8099 I used to live in California and I used to drive for Lyft. At this point they may as well repeal it because it currently hasnt changed anything since Uber and Lyft are widely unaffected which is funny because they are the main targets.
Well truthfully, Uber and Lyft treat their drivers as employees anyway by giving them metrics like acceptance rates and cancellation rates when these drivers are supposed to be independent contractors and able to choose what work they want without any repercussions. So, if Lyft and Uber are going to treat the drivers as employees by putting metrics on them, then they need to pay them as employees and not have their cake and eat it too. Independent contractors get to choose the work they want and when they want to do it and not dictated by fake metrics or the Uber and Lyft platforms.
why tthey keep using flexible schedules? It's not if they want to make money!!!! all markets are so saturated that the only way to make money without wasting time waiting for a ride is only on busy times. Drivers need to be available during busy times, its not flexible! Busy times usually are 7-9am 4-7pm 2am-3am 4-5-am Concerts, big events.... they mentioned airbnb, if you put your house on that platform you set the price, drivers have no control over that and pay its been dropping every single year for a long time.
you can for the customers you get on your own. it be too hard to let everyone have their own rate. customers dont want to wait 4 hours for taxi companies to give them a bid. you are agreeing to the rates when you hire them. dont like the rates dont use them. do your own advertising. see what you make then after paying advertising out of pocket up front
Here is what is being ignored. IS THE PUBLIC SAFE GETTING INTO ONE OF THESE UNLICENSED VEHICLES? THESE ARE NOT LICENSED CABS / TAXIS. YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHO THESE PEOPLE ARE. YOU HAVE NO IDEA THE CONDITION OF THE VEHICLES OR IF THEY ARE SAFE. But the issue has turned into whether they are an employee or not???? Uber and Lyft in Massachusetts are a place where ill-eagle immigrants without any responsibility or consequences can drive whatever they want, however they want on our streets and highways. This is what Massachusetts is up to,...they do NOT want to ensure the safety of the public by having to regulate hundreds of independents whilst the leftist mandate Massachusetts want's these ill-eagles to have some kind of income at the expense of the public. Either way the public's safety is what is at the heart of this issue. But safety will take a back seat, like de-funding our police, for the leftist agenda.
If Rideshare drivers are independent contractors why can’t they negotiate their own fares and why is Uber taking 70% of what the passenger is paying. These companies have morphed into predatory scammers.
I only drive most profitable pay at Orlando MCO airport and only cherry 🍒 pick. What that say I have to go online 10 hours lucky may get 3-4 trip depending the demand.example I accept 20 miles trip Uber offer $40 to me some fair amount to drive points A-B . however I would always hear from pessenger complaining thier was been charge $110 - 120 for the trip. Uber always seems to win take more . Unfairly
Those here breaking our laws and or causing accidents , and endangering others, need to go, not given the green light to cause more issues on our roads. Here is what is being ignored. IS THE PUBLIC SAFE GETTING INTO ONE OF THESE UNLICENSED VEHICLES? THESE ARE NOT LICENSED CABS / TAXIS. YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHO THESE PEOPLE ARE. YOU HAVE NO IDEA THE CONDITION OF THE VEHICLES OR IF THEY ARE SAFE. But the issue has turned into whether they are an employee or not???? Uber and Lyft in Massachusetts are a place where ill-eagle immigrants without any responsibility or consequences can drive whatever they want, however they want on our streets and highways. This is what Massachusetts is up to,...they do NOT want to ensure the safety of the public by having to regulate hundreds of independents whilst the leftist mandate Massachusetts want's these ill-eagles to have some kind of income at the expense of the public. Either way the public's safety is what is at the heart of this issue. But safety will take a back seat, like de-funding our police, for the leftist agenda.
I'm okay with being an independent contractor except for the low pay and being taken advantage of on rates. We get rides at 40-50 cents a mile where my write off is 65 cents a mile. We should be getting double the government write-off in pay for mileage. Also, time rates should go up if a ride takes longer than expected due to traffic or accidents taking longer to complete the ride.
Just a basic look at the three requirements to be an independent contractor demonstrates that drivers are employees. The drivers are NOT independent businesses, as they often lack the licensing necessary to operate independently, ADDITIONALLY, the "rideshare apps", take money away from the drivers, in the form of "fees" that would not be necessary for an "independent contractor" Simply stated, the fees they backcharge from the driver, make it impossible for them to be "independent contractors".
Thats not true because of a few facts. Uber & Lyft do not show how much a driver will be paid in totality for a ride until it’s finished. As in, you see how much you earn & how much of their cut is taken, After. You have 15 seconds to take accept that offer based on impulse alone. In their initial IPO documents, Uber specifically said that their business model depends on lowering wages of their drivers over time until driverless technology becomes sustainable. That is an admission that without their drivers they would not be able to sustain the business model. It’s basically predatory until they don’t need the human drivers anymore.
No matter what I do on uber I never make more than $15/hr unless the algorithm notices I haven't averaged $15/hr. It'll make up for that later ti make sure it's around or about $15/hr. All thus in NoVa one of the wealthiest areas in the country. It's ridiculous and not sustainable. $15/hr snd I pay for my own fuel and maintance... scammers
But the people of Massachusetts lost, do you not realize how much Uber and lyft will charge now? The drivers won't make more money, they'll just get their hours cut while riders will pay double or triple. Short sighted and ridiculously stupid
Uber and Lyft want to be an employer but don't want to pay benefits which is why they don't want to classified their workers as employees but then they also don't want their workers to be able to set their own rates which is what an independent contractor could do which they won't allow. It's like Uber and Lyft wants control but without responsibility. You can have it one way or another Uber and Lyft, you can't have both ways.
BS. The algorithm dictates driver schedule and pay. Shapes driver behavior through control over times and locations of request, time, and distance. Information collected on drivers and collated through the algorithm determines how much drivers earn but in favor of Uber and Lyft.
If a driver doesn't like how Lyft or Uber treat them, then they don't have to work for them...simple. And, if the court case or ballot initiative goes against them, then they can just leave the state. They are now so entrenched in so many people's lives, the clamoring public will force the government to back down.
Here is what is being ignored. IS THE PUBLIC SAFE GETTING INTO ONE OF THESE UNLICENSED VEHICLES? THESE ARE NOT LICENSED CABS / TAXIS. YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHO THESE PEOPLE ARE. YOU HAVE NO IDEA THE CONDITION OF THE VEHICLES OR IF THEY ARE SAFE. But the issue has turned into whether they are an employee or not???? Uber and Lyft in Massachusetts are a place where ill-eagle immigrants without any responsibility or consequences can drive whatever they want, however they want on our streets and highways. This is what Massachusetts is up to,...they do NOT want to ensure the safety of the public by having to regulate hundreds of independents whilst the leftist mandate Massachusetts want's these ill-eagles to have some kind of income at the expense of the public. Either way the public's safety is what is at the heart of this issue. But safety will take a back seat, like de-funding our police, for the leftist agenda.
Let the state make its own app and background check everyone and compete and we can see if they can make it happen...cause I don't think they can. Government will make it to expensive to get a ride again soon enough.
Uber only cares about drivers until autonomous driving becomes sustainable. Until then, they’ll keep lowering your cut of the ride to maintain profitability. Once the technology get there, they’ll likely eliminate 75-90% of drivers & you cant sue them for anything because they’ll cite that you’re just a contractor & you signed a document. Meanwhile, you pay for your own car maintenance, healthcare, etc. All while in their company documents & plan of growth they said that their plan is to reduce your pay over time until autonomous driving becomes solid.
If there is going to be a ballot initiative, make sure that there are at least three rules that protect drivers wages: first there needs to be a fixed rate, per mile and minute fees; protect against malicious deactivation, make gig companies pay health care fees, directly to the State.
How about we protect the public first: Here is what is being ignored. IS THE PUBLIC SAFE GETTING INTO ONE OF THESE UNLICENSED VEHICLES? THESE ARE NOT LICENSED CABS / TAXIS. YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHO THESE PEOPLE ARE. YOU HAVE NO IDEA THE CONDITION OF THE VEHICLES OR IF THEY ARE SAFE. But the issue has turned into whether they are an employee or not???? Uber and Lyft in Massachusetts are a place where ill-eagle immigrants without any responsibility or consequences can drive whatever they want, however they want on our streets and highways. This is what Massachusetts is up to,...they do NOT want to ensure the safety of the public by having to regulate hundreds of independents whilst the leftist mandate Massachusetts want's these ill-eagles to have some kind of income at the expense of the public. Either way the public's safety is what is at the heart of this issue. But safety will take a back seat, like de-funding our police, for the leftist agenda.
At the heart of most socialist / leftist agendas are the seeds of draconian control, think Germany in the 30s',...this is a requirement for the implementation of these socialist ideas,...extreme control,....as well as misdirection,...this is what is going on: Here is what is being ignored. IS THE PUBLIC SAFE GETTING INTO ONE OF THESE UNLICENSED VEHICLES? THESE ARE NOT LICENSED CABS / TAXIS. YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHO THESE PEOPLE ARE. YOU HAVE NO IDEA THE CONDITION OF THE VEHICLES OR IF THEY ARE SAFE. But the issue has turned into whether they are an employee or not???? Uber and Lyft in Massachusetts are a place where ill-eagle immigrants without any responsibility or consequences can drive whatever they want, however they want on our streets and highways. This is what Massachusetts is up to,...they do NOT want to ensure the safety of the public by having to regulate hundreds of independents whilst the leftist mandate Massachusetts want's these ill-eagles to have some kind of income at the expense of the public. Either way the public's safety is what is at the heart of this issue. But safety will take a back seat, like de-funding our police, for the leftist agenda.
$32.50 an hour wtf?!😂 There's truck drivers with class A cdls, hazmat, doubles and triples endorsements that don't make that much. Imagine seeing an Uber idiot cruise by making more than you while you're hauling explosives or jet fuel.
How do you think drivers should be classified? If you drive for Uber or Lyft, tell us about your experience!
I'm Uber's latest SEC filing, they have stated that they have raised their rates to customers while lowering their pay to drivers. They initially used millions and millions of investor money to subsidize driver pay and to subsidize customer cost in order to attract drivers and customers and make them dependent upon Uber. Drivers invested in their jobs by purchasing new cars, some very high end, and many customers moved or took jobs because they could afford to use Uber. It almost feels like a bait and switch.
The the problem is that these app companies like Uber and Lyft , label drivers as independent contractors and treat them as employees, I am a driver my self for Uber and Lyft , there is a lot of manipulation in the drivers app , we want a hybrid model , similar to the one in Washington state , we want to have a full independent contractors status , not half , we want 100% and be treated as such , trick these companies use was similar to what drug dealers do , they go around give drugs for free , once they have you trapped they will do what ever they what including rise the price of the product , now people don’t wanna go back to taxis and drivers like quick cash everyday so we are all hooked, the other issues , Uber and Lyft commissions used to be 20% of what the riders paid , now is between 50% and 75% , Lyft now came up with a new way to scam drivers , it’s called Lyft new commitment, in which hey claim they drivers will always get 70% of what the riders paid AFTER EXTERNAL FEES, now that’s the big lie , example , drivers take a long trip of 2 hours going outside the city , passengers paid $300 , Lyfts takes about $49 for comercial insurance, booking fees and others fees , at the end they end up taking half or more of what the passengers paid , sometimes we the drivers feel like we are just working to pull gas in the tank in order to continue driving the next day , again, we are all hooked to these apps , it’s was a trap
The classification must be independent contractors, period. I have been driving for Uber for over 7 years, and it is the best thing that has happened to me.
I think they both are Scam
No, I don't want to be an employee but they do need regulated for how much they take and how little they offer drivers doesn't even come close to min wages
If you’re an independent contractor, then you should be able to set your own rates .
You can. It's called a limo service.
Don't take the job, that is how you set the rate, if others do take the job, that is called competition...economics 101.
@@sgtpepperz25 but, if you do that, Uber lowers your "acceptance rate percentage". Uber then offers you fewer and fewer rides...squeezing you out...(This algorithm applies to all drivers)... Uber uses this to method to force drivers to accept lower rates or quit. Collectively, all drivers are being forced to accept Uber's rates, removing the "independent contractor's" choice of pay rate, and treating them like an employee. An employee has no say in pay rate, where an independent contractor would be able to choose their pay rate. Uber, using these tactics, are turning independent contractors into employees without declaring them as employees. Further, This is just one tactic that Uber uses to blur the line between employee and independent contractor.
Exactly 💯 hours and rates. They can't. Therefore they are employees!
Correct . That’s what makes you an independent contractor.
They claim we are not employees but there app is full of restrictions on what we can and can't do.
That sounds to me like an employer. They're ripping us drivers off for years, enough is enough!
Door Dash is known for stealing tips from drivers.
Rideshare Professor says the problem is that Uber and Lyft call drivers independent contractors but don’t treat them as such since they control everything. If drivers were being treated like independent contractors, they would be able to set their own rates, decide where to go and who to pick up without retaliation, etc….
Uber has too much control over so called independent contractors
E Toro = you set your own rates, E toro doesn't set the rates. E bay = you set your own rates, Ebay doesn't set the rates. Air BnB = you set your own rates, Air BnB doesn't set the rates. Uber & Lyft is the opposite = they set the rates for both the buyer and the seller and they make a profit as the employer - obviously.
As a long time rideshare driver with over 10k rides under my belt I stopped Uber last year because they gutted our pay and lie about everything they say!!!
The whole bs line about “flexible work “ is a red herring… if you don’t work during high demand hours you starve!
For years they used investment dollars to subsidize driver pay and even subsidize what customers pay for rides. In Uber's latest SEC filing, they come right out and say that they have raised customer rates (55%) while simultaneously lowering the payments to drivers significantly. People have been driving for these companies for years and have invested themselves by buying new, expensive cars/SUVs and some have even moved to more lucrative cities. People qualified for 30 year mortgages based upon their 5+ years as drivers. Then, the rug gets pulled out from under them. In no other industry would state and the national legislatures allow companies to slash 67- 78% of its employees' wages while stuffing half a billion dollars in annual salaries into its ceo's pockets. To anyone who says, "Well, you don't have to do it," I ask-- if your company/boss spent 18-24 months slowly reducing your pay by 2% every two weeks or every month without giving you notice, you'd likely complain a bit and when your boss told you to leave if you weren't happy, you'd likely just adjust your budget. Now, let's suppose you're a single parent and you need to keep your job with this boss because he allows you to start work after your kids go to school and let's you finish when schools our and allows you time off to go to their sporting games, plays, twacher-parwnt conferences, etc. You'd be willing to give up that 2% loss continue because you could not work anywhere else and pay childcare and transportation costs.
In no other large industry would the US legislature allow a company to charge consumers substantially more while substantially cutting employee pay if that company or industry was also paying out unexpectedly large dividend to shareholders with their ceo's taking the #2 and #6 sits of the highest paid... And that's without even legislators considering the impact to communities who need these services. Imagine if a natural gas or electric company did this.
I'm just amazed at the stupidity of people who say delivery drivers are independent contractors and they don't have to do these jobs. Well, fine. Those single parents driving can just apply for tax dollars for welfare programs and they can also take tax dollars for unemployment. Why would anyone be a delivery driver and invest in reliable transportation when literally accepting government help brings in more money to the household.... These are the issues that are involved in congressional oversight. It's no different that the federal government providing a portion of someone's retirement pension when the corporation goes BK. This is just another form of taking dollars from the middle class in the form of taxes and redistributing those tax dollars to the wealthy in the form of tax subsidies to wealthy corporations. For example, Elon Musk's company receives $500 million in tax subsidies (from tax payers) to produce a rocket. Then, his company turns around and sells that rocket back the US govt who uses even more US taxpayer money to buy it. That is simply the US govt redistributing wealth from the average, middle class to the wealthy.
Almost seems like a bait n switch
That's contracting. Work or starve.
@@ChickensAndGardening It seems it's become both work and starve...
@@ChickensAndGardening Have you ever been a proper contractor? I have. I owned a company that put in industrial epoxy floor coatings in US airport hangars for every major US airline. Receiving the contract meant I had to follow federal and individual state labor laws. I could not have someone working for my company that wasn't earning, at least, the state's minimum wage. In the beginning , when I did subcontracting work for other contractors, every employee had to make the state minimum (this is something I never concerned myself with because even the grunt work was paid more than twice the individual state's requirements). If I was a subcontractor and was caught not paying minimum wages, the contractor could also be held responsible for the violation. I really don't understand how these rideshare and delivery companies do this.
Whatever pays better than the current ride rates. I'm with it. Rideshare used to be decent money just a couple years ago. Not anymore
If you rent a car to drive rideshare you are REQUIRED to do 50 rides a week. That’s an EMPLOYEE relationship.
Ufff so true I saw this in my area 200 ride damm
Not sure that is employee/employer relationship, just a special agreement with the platform...Not sure of all the details in your case, but employers don't rent cars or assist, and this probably is through a third-party...Employees are told when to work, how long, what to do, and what to wear...They report to direct supervisors
Will this also include DoorDash, UberEats, Instacart that are ALL based on a company that controls the gigs you get and also our pay is from TIPS !!
How much should a tech company charge for its software?
Why does the tech company control the pricing between the rider and the driver? Why can't the contractors set their own rates?
The main issue now is driver pay, especially in midsize markets where the number of rides varies from 0-4 per hour. For instance, rides that pay $4 might make sense, but not under the current conditions where these rides take between 15-30 minutes to complete. Full-time drivers are pushing for change, arguing that if they were employees, they could unionize and negotiate better pay standards.
I can tell you as an Uber driver. I am not allowed to adjust my price when gas goes up or when gas goes down. I cannot adjust my price for the cost-of-living going up. For the cost of maintenance on the vehicle. For the cost of insurance and registration. The only independence they allow is to work when you want by turning the phone on or off. In my eyes, I am not an independent contractor.
Uber and Lyft together have lost $50 billion dollars so far, that’s really impressive considering they pay the drivers less than minimum wage after you account for the cost of owning and driving your own car. The IRS allows ride share drivers 62 cents per mile as a standard deduction. Most drivers are paid about a dollar a mile, resulting in net pay of 40 cents per mile. I have driven for 6 years and will not be driving again until the pay goes up. Ride share companies exploit first generation immigrants flagrantly, how many unreported 1099’S do you think Uber etc. have sent out ?
It’s the reason that taxi companies are struggling, you can’t operate a business at a loss unless you’re a tech company SPAC with endless stupid investors.
I would like to see the commonwealth prevail and force them to become employers. If they leave it would be the kick in the ass that they need, the money that people are spending on ride share is significant and it is not being spent on public transportation or profit making taxi companies, it is a pandora’s box that needs regulation.
This being Massachusetts, of course they will force the ride share companies to become employers. Likely they will pull out of the state at that point.
Both Uber & Lyft takes more than 50% of every single fare and sends app de-activation threatening messages to driver when they cancel a ride.
uber drivers are collecting 40% of what the rider pays
more than a lot of business owners profit.
That’s correct as Uber driver and lift they offer me 32% I had a passenger paid $90 then I got 28
We are dealing with this in CA right now. Our state Supreme Court just heard the oral arguments yesterday so we shall see how it plays out. Keep in mind the state has their own motives as to why they want drivers to become employees which is to get there payroll taxes that they aren’t getting right now. My view is that the employee model is not the way to go, but to have a hybrid model of IC work coupled with extended benefits and higher pay. Imagine receiving a ride request that is 3 hours away and you have to accept it because you can no longer decline rides. It just doesn’t make sense.
The only thing we the driver asking is to get pay more money for example when the driver pay $10 we only get paid $3.80 We should get paid 80 or 90% becaus There's one pay for the car for gas for the time they're putting for Mining the car in everything else
As early as 2015 we did get paid 80% of the fare upfront. Uber got into the food delivery business and they were taking millions of dollars in losses on food that wasn’t delivered or not picked up at the restaurant due to the low pay of the order. So Uber had to find money somewhere so it started taking money from rideshare drivers to augment their failing food delivery service. Remember, if an Uber eats order does not get picked up from the restaurant or deliverd to the customer, Uber must pay the customer back for that food either by a credit to their Uber eats account or to a reversal of a credit card charge.
What's going on in Rhode Island? Heard it's soon going to be a felony for any rider to request an Independent contractor. So...
after all these riders have been gouged by Uber, and so-called "independent contractors" identifying as drivers on the Uber app, whom have never truly been treated as independent contractors, have both finally been heard through all these protests! YAY!!
However, instead of penalizing the drivers and riders, why don't you first get Uber to pay back the states to fix the roads & bridges?
And also make them pay back drivers for not honoring the true definition of independent contractor, since so many misclassification suits against Uber are forced thru arbitration and is binding so Uber is not held responsible for sabotaging the transportation industry, beginning with the taxi cab companies?
Rhode Island is going to further harm their own communities by making it a FELONY for ANY PURCHASER of goods or services from any "Independent Contractor!!
INSANITY. Is this the ultimate goal for Minnesota? To allow Uber to destroy the states of our country from within?
Uber started all this mess. Are all the people living on the East Coast losing their minds?
One-third of Rhode Island's population are independent contractors...for REAL, providing goods and services to all their neighbors, friends, family, as well as elected officials and complete strangers!
And now Massachusettes is trying to create new labor laws, like Rhode Island, to punish the purchaser?
Just punish Uber and let the drivers be their own boss and take care of their own business. Uber is not God. And Uber is not the 4th branch of government. And Uber should have to compete for customers in the market place against other Rideshare apps (companies), as well as private livery drivers with their own cars, as well as Independent Truckers and independent medical health transportation providers.
Protect the people's freedoms to work and create business, not the corporation trying to put Fed Ex, UPS, Amazon Flex and thousands of people out of work. Wake up!
Everyone knew what an employee was and what an independent contractor was BEFORE uber was invented.
E v e r y o n e.
Uber isn't so uber anymore.
Read Uberland by Alex Rosenblat published in 2018. She exposed it all and government officials did nothing back then. Uber is forcing all complaints by drivers into arbitration.
Dara said it would take an act of Congress to make them change their business model, SO CHANGE THE BUSINESS MODEL, not punish the people of Rhode Island OR Massachusettes.
Check out newjobsAmerica.com. That's where the info on Rhode Island was found.
Very Well said
They continue lowering pay when demand is as high as ever.
Watch they try to pull this all across the nation😬
Drivers elsewhere will have their pay reduced to pay for this. When the lawsuits began, all companies started matching each others $2 base pay on food deliveries. When that wasn’t enough they started paying $1 each for stacked orders.
I've been an independent contractor my whole life. Residential construction. And the main reason for being an independent contractor is you get to negotiate your contract. It says it in the title. Uber and Lyft there is no negotiation therefore you are an employee a low-level expendable employee.
When they started out it was an 80/20 split. Uber and Lyft. And the way bill was itemized and you seen where all of the money for the fair went. Fast forward to today you're lucky if you get 50% of the fair. Just ask your passenger what they paid for the ride.
Lyft says they guarantee you 70% or more of the fair after we take out what we want. WTF is that. I hate to say it but Uber and Lyft need to get Godsmack. Instead of them paying off all of these politicians and judges why don't they just do it fair for the driver the one who's taking all the risk putting up all the money for the vehicle and the insurance the maintenance.
I picked up a passenger in an area where its active especially during the weekend, she told me she paid 60$ and I got paid 10$
I hate Uber so much
I do not want to be an employee. I would like to set per mile/per minute rates for me and my vehicle, and let the customer choose to ride with me or not.
ubers greed is causing their demise, all they had to do is let drivers use their platform for a monthly fee or take a 15% out of every ride and allow the drivers to set their prices smh.
The app should only connect the driver to passengers. They can be the in liaison for background checks and to VERIFY commercial insurance. That’s it. They need to let go of the riders purse strings by claiming rides are $100 and then paying the driver $30.
Something I can’t understand, if a $15 dollars minimum wage is approved, it is still not $15 minimum wage, because drivers use their own car 😂😂 so it is still paying for work 😂😂
HELL YEAH
set own schedules and set your own rates hmmmm
You have to call their bluff...uber and lyft will not leave any state because the investors who back them up will lose tons of money..plus this lady is clueless
4 years to go to trial....hmmmm
wait... this would also classify rideshare drivers as people, this is a slippery slope, next they will want to be treated like people
@SEIKAVXYou should be worried about making a living out of your work instead of getting ripped off by Uber and Lyft
@SEIKAVX that's why the union is tied to this case.
@petlovers1780 Some places don't have many options.
@SEIKAVXwell if that's going to be the case then work for Amazon.
@SEIKAVXokay do you care to explain what the hell you're talking about because you ain't making any sense how the hell does Uber and Lyft got anything to do with national security.
R.I.C.O. Act on Uber Lyft
Definitely need all companies to do this.
And I bet Uber and Lyft just stopped working in Massachusetts
Sue Mass for using 1099 contractors. They do the exact same thing. Make the state pay up.
Unless Uber buys you a car and gives you gas money and fixes the car your a contractor
Wrong, what about at home employment, do they buy you a house and pay your bills????
This was tried in California. Uber and Lyft left for a little bit until their lawyers were able to carve out enought exceptions to render the new employee laws useless. This will only happen again. Once this blows over in Massachusetts, ill be there laughing.
Who's side are you on? Are you aware of the campaign to repeal Prop 22?
@@paulluna8099 Prop 22 is a scam. The NYC/Seattle laws are a scam. The system works best as it is, with IC workers.
@@paulluna8099 I used to live in California and I used to drive for Lyft. At this point they may as well repeal it because it currently hasnt changed anything since Uber and Lyft are widely unaffected which is funny because they are the main targets.
Well truthfully, Uber and Lyft treat their drivers as employees anyway by giving them metrics like acceptance rates and cancellation rates when these drivers are supposed to be independent contractors and able to choose what work they want without any repercussions. So, if Lyft and Uber are going to treat the drivers as employees by putting metrics on them, then they need to pay them as employees and not have their cake and eat it too. Independent contractors get to choose the work they want and when they want to do it and not dictated by fake metrics or the Uber and Lyft platforms.
How are we gonna be classified as employees but we use our own vehicles
why tthey keep using flexible schedules? It's not if they want to make money!!!! all markets are so saturated that the only way to make money without wasting time waiting for a ride is only on busy times. Drivers need to be available during busy times, its not flexible! Busy times usually are 7-9am 4-7pm 2am-3am 4-5-am Concerts, big events.... they mentioned airbnb, if you put your house on that platform you set the price, drivers have no control over that and pay its been dropping every single year for a long time.
Uber/lyft should take 10% of fare as a brokering platform, drivers get the rest. Who should set the fare?
Why we could not set our rate like a LBB and that's where they have they problem
you can for the customers you get on your own. it be too hard to let everyone have their own rate. customers dont want to wait 4 hours for taxi companies to give them a bid. you are agreeing to the rates when you hire them. dont like the rates dont use them. do your own advertising. see what you make then after paying advertising out of pocket up front
That company pull out taking away the contractor claim, is the key here. Pullout and back benefits pour in
Literally no one wants to be Uber or Lyft’s employee. Just regulate them.
Here is what is being ignored.
IS THE PUBLIC SAFE GETTING INTO ONE OF THESE UNLICENSED VEHICLES?
THESE ARE NOT LICENSED CABS / TAXIS.
YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHO THESE PEOPLE ARE.
YOU HAVE NO IDEA THE CONDITION OF THE VEHICLES OR IF THEY ARE SAFE.
But the issue has turned into whether they are an employee or not????
Uber and Lyft in Massachusetts are a place where ill-eagle immigrants without any responsibility or consequences can drive whatever they want, however they want on our streets and highways.
This is what Massachusetts is up to,...they do NOT want to ensure the safety of the public by having to regulate hundreds of independents whilst the leftist mandate Massachusetts want's these ill-eagles to have some kind of income at the expense of the public.
Either way the public's safety is what is at the heart of this issue. But safety will take a back seat, like de-funding our police, for the leftist agenda.
It's not complicated Adam Uber and Lyft are ripping off the drivers.
If Rideshare drivers are independent contractors why can’t they negotiate their own fares and why is Uber taking 70% of what the passenger is paying. These companies have morphed into predatory scammers.
I saw this coming
they are franchisees
I only drive most profitable pay at Orlando MCO airport and only cherry 🍒 pick. What that say I have to go online 10 hours lucky may get 3-4 trip depending the demand.example I accept 20 miles trip Uber offer $40 to me some fair amount to drive points A-B . however I would always hear from pessenger complaining thier was been charge $110 - 120 for the trip. Uber always seems to win take more . Unfairly
Drivers should get benefits and better employment status and such, disappointing
Those here breaking our laws and or causing accidents , and endangering others, need to go, not given the green light to cause more issues on our roads.
Here is what is being ignored.
IS THE PUBLIC SAFE GETTING INTO ONE OF THESE UNLICENSED VEHICLES?
THESE ARE NOT LICENSED CABS / TAXIS.
YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHO THESE PEOPLE ARE.
YOU HAVE NO IDEA THE CONDITION OF THE VEHICLES OR IF THEY ARE SAFE.
But the issue has turned into whether they are an employee or not????
Uber and Lyft in Massachusetts are a place where ill-eagle immigrants without any responsibility or consequences can drive whatever they want, however they want on our streets and highways.
This is what Massachusetts is up to,...they do NOT want to ensure the safety of the public by having to regulate hundreds of independents whilst the leftist mandate Massachusetts want's these ill-eagles to have some kind of income at the expense of the public.
Either way the public's safety is what is at the heart of this issue. But safety will take a back seat, like de-funding our police, for the leftist agenda.
@@chrisd_man2156 do they e verify ?
I'm okay with being an independent contractor except for the low pay and being taken advantage of on rates. We get rides at 40-50 cents a mile where my write off is 65 cents a mile. We should be getting double the government write-off in pay for mileage. Also, time rates should go up if a ride takes longer than expected due to traffic or accidents taking longer to complete the ride.
Just a basic look at the three requirements to be an independent contractor demonstrates that drivers are employees.
The drivers are NOT independent businesses, as they often lack the licensing necessary to operate independently, ADDITIONALLY, the "rideshare apps", take money away from the drivers, in the form of "fees" that would not be necessary for an "independent contractor"
Simply stated, the fees they backcharge from the driver, make it impossible for them to be "independent contractors".
Stay out of it state
The main business model of Uber and Lift is not transporting people, it’s connecting people to other people.
Thats not true because of a few facts.
Uber & Lyft do not show how much a driver will be paid in totality for a ride until it’s finished. As in, you see how much you earn & how much of their cut is taken, After.
You have 15 seconds to take accept that offer based on impulse alone. In their initial IPO documents, Uber specifically said that their business model depends on lowering wages of their drivers over time until driverless technology becomes sustainable.
That is an admission that without their drivers they would not be able to sustain the business model. It’s basically predatory until they don’t need the human drivers anymore.
I see my own schedule as an employee, so we are definitely not contractors. Contractors don’t get limited hourly pay set by a company.
No matter what I do on uber I never make more than $15/hr unless the algorithm notices I haven't averaged $15/hr. It'll make up for that later ti make sure it's around or about $15/hr. All thus in NoVa one of the wealthiest areas in the country. It's ridiculous and not sustainable. $15/hr snd I pay for my own fuel and maintance... scammers
This lawsuit should be settled in 1 minute Massachusetts 🥇 win
But the people of Massachusetts lost, do you not realize how much Uber and lyft will charge now? The drivers won't make more money, they'll just get their hours cut while riders will pay double or triple. Short sighted and ridiculously stupid
Uber and Lyft want to be an employer but don't want to pay benefits which is why they don't want to classified their workers as employees but then they also don't want their workers to be able to set their own rates which is what an independent contractor could do which they won't allow. It's like Uber and Lyft wants control but without responsibility. You can have it one way or another Uber and Lyft, you can't have both ways.
That’s OK, plenty of taxis to take over since they want to turn them into a taxi service. They will leave.
BS. The algorithm dictates driver schedule and pay. Shapes driver behavior through control over times and locations of request, time, and distance. Information collected on drivers and collated through the algorithm determines how much drivers earn but in favor of Uber and Lyft.
as employees
I am not independent contractor IF I CANT PRICE MY OWN SERVISE TO THE PEOPLE. SO FAR UBER TELLING ME HOW MUCH I CAN MAKE, tHIS WAY i AM AN EMPLOYER
I don’t care just give uber what they want before we get replaced by robo taxis. Don’t complain and be happy you have an income.
Uber and Lyft are horrible companies.
If a driver doesn't like how Lyft or Uber treat them, then they don't have to work for them...simple. And, if the court case or ballot initiative goes against them, then they can just leave the state. They are now so entrenched in so many people's lives, the clamoring public will force the government to back down.
Then they need to leave because they killing the cab drivers and couriers job. Is not fair 😕
I hate uber and lyft
Here is what is being ignored.
IS THE PUBLIC SAFE GETTING INTO ONE OF THESE UNLICENSED VEHICLES?
THESE ARE NOT LICENSED CABS / TAXIS.
YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHO THESE PEOPLE ARE.
YOU HAVE NO IDEA THE CONDITION OF THE VEHICLES OR IF THEY ARE SAFE.
But the issue has turned into whether they are an employee or not????
Uber and Lyft in Massachusetts are a place where ill-eagle immigrants without any responsibility or consequences can drive whatever they want, however they want on our streets and highways.
This is what Massachusetts is up to,...they do NOT want to ensure the safety of the public by having to regulate hundreds of independents whilst the leftist mandate Massachusetts want's these ill-eagles to have some kind of income at the expense of the public.
Either way the public's safety is what is at the heart of this issue. But safety will take a back seat, like de-funding our police, for the leftist agenda.
Crying babies keep crying...stop driving if u keep complaining. Go find a job
Let the state make its own app and background check everyone and compete and we can see if they can make it happen...cause I don't think they can. Government will make it to expensive to get a ride again soon enough.
Uber only cares about drivers until autonomous driving becomes sustainable. Until then, they’ll keep lowering your cut of the ride to maintain profitability.
Once the technology get there, they’ll likely eliminate 75-90% of drivers & you cant sue them for anything because they’ll cite that you’re just a contractor & you signed a document.
Meanwhile, you pay for your own car maintenance, healthcare, etc.
All while in their company documents & plan of growth they said that their plan is to reduce your pay over time until autonomous driving becomes solid.
They do not operate like Airbnb , they do not let their drivers make their own rates.
If there is going to be a ballot initiative, make sure that there are at least three rules that protect drivers wages: first there needs to be a fixed rate, per mile and minute fees; protect against malicious deactivation, make gig companies pay health care fees, directly to the State.
How about we protect the public first:
Here is what is being ignored.
IS THE PUBLIC SAFE GETTING INTO ONE OF THESE UNLICENSED VEHICLES?
THESE ARE NOT LICENSED CABS / TAXIS.
YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHO THESE PEOPLE ARE.
YOU HAVE NO IDEA THE CONDITION OF THE VEHICLES OR IF THEY ARE SAFE.
But the issue has turned into whether they are an employee or not????
Uber and Lyft in Massachusetts are a place where ill-eagle immigrants without any responsibility or consequences can drive whatever they want, however they want on our streets and highways.
This is what Massachusetts is up to,...they do NOT want to ensure the safety of the public by having to regulate hundreds of independents whilst the leftist mandate Massachusetts want's these ill-eagles to have some kind of income at the expense of the public.
Either way the public's safety is what is at the heart of this issue. But safety will take a back seat, like de-funding our police, for the leftist agenda.
Billion dollar profit!
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Welcome to the People’s Republic of Massachusetts
At the heart of most socialist / leftist agendas are the seeds of draconian control, think Germany in the 30s',...this is a requirement for the implementation of these socialist ideas,...extreme control,....as well as misdirection,...this is what is going on:
Here is what is being ignored.
IS THE PUBLIC SAFE GETTING INTO ONE OF THESE UNLICENSED VEHICLES?
THESE ARE NOT LICENSED CABS / TAXIS.
YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHO THESE PEOPLE ARE.
YOU HAVE NO IDEA THE CONDITION OF THE VEHICLES OR IF THEY ARE SAFE.
But the issue has turned into whether they are an employee or not????
Uber and Lyft in Massachusetts are a place where ill-eagle immigrants without any responsibility or consequences can drive whatever they want, however they want on our streets and highways.
This is what Massachusetts is up to,...they do NOT want to ensure the safety of the public by having to regulate hundreds of independents whilst the leftist mandate Massachusetts want's these ill-eagles to have some kind of income at the expense of the public.
Either way the public's safety is what is at the heart of this issue. But safety will take a back seat, like de-funding our police, for the leftist agenda.
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$32.50 an hour wtf?!😂 There's truck drivers with class A cdls, hazmat, doubles and triples endorsements that don't make that much. Imagine seeing an Uber idiot cruise by making more than you while you're hauling explosives or jet fuel.