And this is the main reason why these allegations have been so potent even though there's no hard evidence. It's because the allegations are believable to those who have had misgivings about him for years.
Friends with the world is enmity with GOD. Everyone stop using that argument that Jesus sat with sinners … he ate with them and preached the GOSPEL to them and to repent! He didn’t chill wit them and fellowship with them daily if so show me in scripture… stop compromising for the compromised. The devil already took over him and his church .
Excellent message Mr Corey and thank you so much for Always using the Holy Scriptures in All your messages I Always enjoyed watching and Listening and Learning from you and Justin Peters and John Macarthur and Voddie Baucher and last but not least Sir Walter Jones whom I see as Men of God who cares about the Souls of the Save and unsaved and to God be the Glory in the Name of Lord Jesus Christ Amen hallelujah glory hallelujah Amen and Pastors like Bishop TD Jakes needs to preach the true Gospel of the Holy Scriptures and stop with all that entertainment and self glorification which I'm so tired of Amen so this whole ordeal with the P Diddy situations should be a learning experience and do Better Amen ❤❤❤
It’s time for all of us as men and women of God to seek Him like never before 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽 the evil that’s in this world is on a whole new level 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽 time to put on the whole armor of God🙏🏽
Amen! And kept talking about how each church is different, each homosexual is different....my God, My God! How can each church be different if they're supposed to be teaching one thing?? And I don't think he mentioned Jesus Christ one time in that interview
I’m from Charleston West Virginia. OG’s & people there from the mid 1970’s they have some serious personal story’s, about the gay thing & TD Jakes. I can’t say if its true or not, but it’s a lot of Information in them Charleston West Virginia mountains 🤔
There isn’t any reason on GODs green earth that he should be in the presence of Pdiddy at his parties. Now if Pdiddy came to his church seeking forgiveness and deliverance then that would make sense.
I mean saying this without context is very irresponsible, apparently it wasn’t a Diddy party it was a revolt birthday for the owner at the time, Diddy was just there .. his sermons are broadcasted on revolt so he stopped by to tell them owner happy birthday.. so saying he should never be in the presence of Diddy is outlandish without context
TD is rocked to the core, and it shows. He knows that his public shaming and takedown are just around the corner. He's terrified that the information is going to embarrass and expose who HE really is. Brace yourselves guys...SMH
He's acting guilty to me. If someone accused me of the things he's being accused of, I would just laugh it off because of how crazy the accusations are. But he's clearly shaken by it, it clearly bothers him to the point where he addressed it all throughout his sermon. Even got emotional at points. Not saying the allegations are true or not, but he's acting like a guilty person
He's doing much worse than that. He likes boys from 10 to 15 years old. He will be exposed and will even die. God has announced this through one of His prophets. He will not tolerate his sins anymore and the ones who defend the abuser will be handled like him.
If I was accused of something like of course I would want to explain myself. At first he seemed like he wasent going to and fought against it but ended up talking about it which is acting guiltily so I hope he didn’t do it.
And He will get it! Church folk will be coming with the Judge Nots in droves but will be alright to be sitting under the spiritual headship of such person that will keep them sick spiritually and blind . These churches have Been Scandalous for a long time and these defiled people are out here laying hands on people and invoking strong demons upon the masses.
I agree @mikeflores6254, I caught that as he continued through the response, how he would intertwine the message of GOD then him being the victims.....😒⁉️
Very sober commentary. The most balanced and helpful I've heard so far. God bless you. Let's fix our eyes on Jesus, He warned us of these perilous times.
Which might have been a good strategy if he didn't decide to end the silence by venting like an effeminate woman on the pulpit. This response just made him look more sus.
He seems guilty of something. Like, he's clearly bothered by something, and if he were truly innocent, there's no reason for feeling guilty. Something isn't right.
@@oluyemiogun596 To a certain extent, you're correct - there's a certain level of judgment we shouldn't give before hearing all the facts. However, the initial eye test doesn't look good here. He's displaying the mannerisms of someone that did something. TD Jakes is always cool, composed and collected. In these clips, he's rattled. Again, if you're innocent of something, there's no reason to keep rehashing something you don't want to talk about.
@@250miles2he's never had to confront accusations like these before. No matter what Jakes and his camp says there will always be folks out there who will believe the worst about him
@@250miles2totally agree! He’s rattled because he sees his coin coming to a quick halt. A hit dog gonna holler and there is a reason he was called out.
I noticed in the video of T.D. Jakes the shaking of his hands and the quivering in his voice. For someone who speaks to hundreds of people every Sunday, he is very nervous as he addresses these allegations, although he said he would not address it.
I noticed that too. The shaking of the hands. The voice. People give off clues when they are not being truthful. They may not be aware of it and think they are doing a good job at hiding it but we know.
Here go my issue: we keep letting stuff like this and financial improprieties happen and we do not hold these people accountable by questioning them. We just let them go on this emotional discourse to rouse your emotions to get you to turn your head another way and the pimping and lying keeps happening
Accountability would actually de-frock them from ministry & cause them to “make redress,” in any Abrahamic religion, strictly practiced. An ancient phrase & idea, but nearly all “laws” are rooted in it. It means to proactively compensate for the harm, damage, injuries & injustices caused by an individual. “Redress.” Repair. Repay in-kind. Restore. Until the people harmed the most have been restored to states of wholeness, the “sin” or sinful acts are not requited. Particularly willful harm. One CAN claim the sacrificial offering-up of one’s “savior” as an appeasement from punishments to come, said to lessen the severity of harsh conditions, etc., etc. But, for every sacrifice one makes, one’s “priest” (leader) is required to make two (2) acc. to the scripture also. Seriously undertaken & intentional misinterpretation has long, long, long presented “belief” itself as redemptive redemption, & so being pre-forgiven in advance of one’s next “sin” (or harmful act) has inspired ideas of absolute impunity under religious cloaking to be widespread, extending from the medieval clergy down to everyone/anyone unwilling to endure any material consequences today, globally. (How convenient is that??😂😂🤣😂🤣😜🤣🤣) HAD the religious organizations instituted some governing standards, wherein leadership & followers were actually scrutinized and held to any evaluation levels that were universal to the whole, they all might have been able to better substantiate their claims of having had a religious “practice.” Lawyers have a practice. Doctors have a practice. Musicians have a practice. All held to standards of evaluation for credentials as well as credibility. Religious “practice” patently & materially remains so subjective as to exist in virtual chaos & in constant conflict with other religions in the USA-concept, stemming from its European colonial concept usages of “religion” both as a power base & as a foil for wars & acts of war. Religious practice has little evidence, if any, of ever having actually been put into practice in the USA-concept as any sort of governing dynamic-or even concessionary dynamic-between people. Otherwise, Injustice, Disparity, Mass killings of entire villages, enslavement, etc. WOULD have been tempered-in some tangible way-by a preponderance of “religious people/religious communities,” historically over time. Yet that has never occurred, never was legally inscribed. Religious practice, since the age of Televangelism, for all proven results & intentions, currently is primarily an Entertainment venue, broadly speaking. You will find very few “strong beliefs” backed by behaviors, by actions, very few even knowing what Religion is, nor its fundamental purpose, & very, very few religiously practicing anything except “lunch hour,” every day, at all times, consistently & “faithfully” as is often claimed. IF they do, or have done so, where’s the proof of its religious impact? Systemic Injustice/Racism has had global impact. All religions draw their official charters from that System of “getting everything done,” acc. to “race.” “Race” being just as mythologically-based in scientific terms, as Religion, & furthermore relying near-exclusively on phenotype genetic traits. Therefore, it is accurate to say that the most powerful, most successful & most dominant religion worldwide, that people HAVE strictly adhered-to & abided by all rules under is, most evidently, Racism/Systemic Injustice. ⚖️🕯⚖️🕯⚖️🕯❄️⛄️
These type Churches are basically club houses or cult groups where congregations are practically lost to in the sea of deceits, manipulations and lies.
i attended the church for ten years and was practically raised there at potter’s house. i worked backstage and saw things that most people would be surprised take place. some people who accuse jakes of certain things over the years like taking the members finances for his own personal gain and etc i know to be false. bishop jake’s gave me a scholarship to college back in 2016 which i’m forever grateful for but after all the things that i witnessed while being there, i wouldn’t be surprised if some of the allegations were true
Wait, what? The financial stuff I get, because his tax statements are on the internet, and he doesn't have to take the church's money because he's making a killing with those books. But what do you mean by the other stuff? Promiscuity and homosexuality?
@@TheAutumnWind_RN4L i legit found used condems in the one of the lead pastor’s office once just to name one incident. it just wasn’t a healthy environment for me
Truth is, many of us in ministry place a lot of emphasis on ministering right, but not as much attention to living right. It's the "living right" that is the real ministry.
This is exactly what I said ! Had it not been true why bother to mention it at all ? Thats addressing it and the fact that he called the rumors a lie is addressing it !!!!
The Lord would also steer him away from his ungodly celeb buddies and would also lead him towards embracing the biblical doctrine of the Trinity he adamantly rejects
He tried to vindicate himself, and he went at it too hard. He should have just preached the word and kept silent. You should never use the pulpit to iron out your grievances. You might as well say guilty as charged!
This is a nonsensical statement! He should use the pulpit to stand on the character he needs to be in to be able to have the Office of Ministry! You cannot stand in Office To The Most High anyhow you want like at all. He needs to address It right there and repent. The thing is people want just anyone preaching to them and will use the excuse that He is just human but There is A STANDARD!
I've really reached a point where I'm not surprised with any rumors. - just because I've been in the church as a musician, and seeing more behind the scenes for my whole life. And I try not to get involved with the gossip of individuals. But I DO speak on the bigger picture, and the bigger picture is that the whole mega church/prosperity gospel culture is going through a reckoning. More people are finally stepping away from taking offense to critique about what and who they love, and are actually seeing different things for themselves - one of those main things being seeing their heroes (and some would even say "idols") fall from grace. Not that every single one of us doesn't have things that could get us in hot water too, but I think it's about how we handle certain situations and certain topics. If a preacher can preach a deceptive "gospel" to you, what makes you think they can't deceive you in other ways too?? That's just where I am these days. From growing up, knowing that so many of our male Gospel singers are homosexual, to knowing that so many of our preachers and pastors are freemasons, and everything in between. NOTHING surprises me anymore.
Same here. I keep wondering if THEY know or understand the consequences of what they're doing. Because the Lord is NOT pleased with the Laodecean churches.
In speaking on that it's like they're preying on individuals in a horrible economy saying that God will bless them because they are paying for his mansion and his jet, and expensive lifestyle
@@vickieadams6648 ~ now vickie THAT is what keeps coming to my mind: they Hold the Scriptures in their hands and they can read AND they can DECIPHER what the Word says...and STILL Not know🤔 about the day of reckoning 🧐 ....unless he is innocent of the allegations🎭 (Being convicted in the court of public opinion[s])
Eddie Long never said he didn't do it. He danced around it. Jakes said in the Clip he didn't do it. Big difference. When all the evidence comes out, we will know if he lied or not.
Spot on Corey. The Bible says that the overseer should be above reproach. To avoid the very appearance of any improper relationship. T.D. has been known to associate with popular non-Christians in his business dealings. Lay down with dogs, wake up with fleas.
The Bible says - Let not your good be evil spoken of - Roman 14:16. Meaning do not put yourself in questionable situations where your good can be questioned.
I'm in a program called aa and I'm just a recovering addict and everyone's watches me who I talk to and every thing thr fact he was around party boys on Hollywood show he probably played too they surely were not praying, Hollywood is no place 4 men of God
T.D. JAKES BLEW HIS COVER WHEN HE SHOWED UP AT THIS ""BELSHAZZAR"" PARTY. WE ALL KNOW WHAT GOES ON AT THIS HELL-DESERVING ORGY FEST. SOMETHING ATTRACTED HIM THERE. AS THE OLD SAYING GO, "" YOU GO SNIFFING AROUND THE OLE HOUND DOG, YOU'RE LIABLE TO GET BITTEN.""
It doesn’t matter if it’s true or not. He is in the situation he is in because he started going to celebrity parties for either sex , money or both. I knew he had a problem with fame and money when he allowed Tyler Perry to speak from his pulpit and then lay hands on him while he catches the Holy Ghost. I never looked at him same after that. I had no idea he had previous molestation accusations and pay offs till recently. I do know that my pastor going to these parties with Puff Daddy isn’t a good look so that opens him up to all types of accusations. He did this to himself either way and this is sad.
I really enjoy & appreciate Tyler Perry as an actor & a mogul...But why on earth would Bishop allow him to lay hands on him? It should have been the other way around!
I've never known him to address anything in the past. I wasn't expecting him to address it. God knows all things and if any of it is true it will be revealed.
For every good reason I’m hoping and praying that none of these rumors turn out to be true. I’m just sick and tired of all these preachers and all the scandal. It hurts us all.😢
Praying for Jakes and the entire body of Christ that we might humble ourselves and walk obediently with the Lord. God will sift, refine and discipline. May we have hearts to let Him have His way in us.
It’s hard to imagine anyone could preach the gospel and do the things he is accused of. It is a terrible thing to fall into the hands of the living God. Much more terrible than losing your ministry or reputation. I’m watching and praying.
I'm going to say what the Bible says in 1 Corinthians 15:33.."Do not be deceived: “Bad company corrupts good character.” This is the Spirit of Truth guiding him into all truth to reveal this is what's happening. As believers, we've been commanded in 2 Corinthians 6:17 that we're to come out from unbelievers and live separated from the way they live. To not touch their filthy things! In other words when we're hanging out with the world we become contaminated by the things they do. Period. This is God speaking!
Yet matthew 28:19 JESUS SAID! not paul … GO YE INTO ALL THE WORLD BAPTIZING TEACHING THEM TO OBSERVE ALL THINGS IVE SAID UNTO YOU! .. the one thing i have disagreed with in the houses of worship ( churches) the over trivialization and tribal spirit that prevents them from going into the world! You must remember paul was dealing with ppl steeped in their sin who were new believers he had to preach separation first !! The disciples were prepped taught and changed in Jesus presence for years… They were ready to go into the world. He also says Luke 22:31 when thou are strengthened , GO STRENGTHEN THY BRETHREN! How is the church going to affectively influence the world if it cannot go into ALL THE WORLD? Content matters here. If we r to be like Jesus… PLEASE REMEMBER HE WAS ALWAYS HOLY EVEN AMONG THE SINNERS , BRCUZ HE WAS ALWAYS AMONG THE SINNERS COMPELLING THEM TO COME!! He above all was prepared to go, as should any believer be prepared!! ( consecrated, wise, strategic and holy ghost filled) so u can affect the world snd compel them to come!! Some of yall will never influence a dinner becuz u have no power! No disciplines to seek God for an anointing to win souls! THIS IS SERIOUS!!!! … fyi a pastor is a Shepard! He Shepards the flock for Gods sake! Even Jesus addresses this in Revelation … behold i will come unto you and remove your candlestick the Angel ( pastor) from thy presence!! If Jesus can give reference to a pastor as an Angel, its not far fetched to not see He would understand a pastor referencing himself as Shepard! Again… GOD IS THE FATHER, THE SON, THE HOLY SPIRIT! WATER, STEAM, ICE! ALL DIFFERENT FORMS OF THE SAME SUBSTANCE !!
@@reggiecarter9581 Brother, there is a BIG difference in "going" and "being." We are to GO into all nations to teach and make disciples, not to BE like the world. We are NOT to conform to the patterns of the world. I go into the world daily letting my Light so shine so men can see my good works and my Heavenly Father be glorified. I don't go into the world to participate in the unfruitful works of darkness. I encourage you to seek God about this and yield to His Spirit to guide you into all truth.
@@millettesmart3784 calm down the prayer oil ritual my brother! 😂Reread my entire dialogue … i dont condone staying in sin, nor being active participants in any lifestyle thats antithetical to Gods character… but my position is still steadfast!! The bulk of my point was and still is for churches to come out of these buildings and go get involved with the people , who otherwise will or would not come to your church ! But in order to do this effectively one must be consecrated! Anointed and full of the holy ghost becuuuuz of the depth of the spiritual fight ! THE WORLD WILL NEVER HEAR OF NOR SHIFT IF THOSE OF US WHO CLAIM CHRIST ARE AMONG THE WORLD ONLY TO “ LET OUR LIGHTS SHINE”!! But work the work of the one who sent us! Right, do the work of a disciple!! Thats takes building relationships and crying loud and sparing not!!! Be not deceived God is not mocked … gird up our loins with truth , you will need it to stand the temptations . Lets not act as tho we have nooo weakness , and God cannot rightly fault any of us👀 !! BE CAREFUL HOW WE DISMANTLE OTHERS!! lets not rejoice if one falls but yet pick up the blood stained banner and do the work of an evangelist !! MY POINT IS ITS BEYOND TIME FOR UD COLLECTIVELY TO GO ENGAGE THE WORLD IF THERE IS SNY HOPE OF IT CHANGING !!! MATTHEW 5:13!!
@@millettesmart3784 lets refrain from assuming people who have opinions or oppose our stance are lost or misguided, or need to “ seek Gods guidance to yielded in all truth 🤦🏾♂️” u dont know me maam… im as humble as can be and have given my life to God for years of servitude in His kingdom and my community ! Dont assume becuz i share my opinions that im somehow speaking aloft or heresy , u remind me of those self righteous church ladies who are so ready to bang their gavel on peoples lives whom they disapprove. Peace n blessings be unto u…
@@reggiecarter9581 it wasn't my intent for you to feel I was assuming anything about you because I encouraged you to seek God and yield to the Holy Spirit to guide you in all the truth. This is what we all as believers should be doing. I don't base what I believe on opinions but truth that comes from God's Word. I have no problem with you disagreeing with me but I won't argue. So this is my last reply to you. I pray you continue to have a great day!
His response sounded a lot like Eddie Long’s response. And that roaring congregation just makes me SMH. Folks just idolize these folks. And he would’ve been better off not mentioning it than to mention that you’re not going to mention it. Makes him look guilty.🤷🏾♀️
All he had to do is provide a brief expression of "It's not true" to those who look to him to be the man of God that he claims. His failure can cause others in his church to stumble. It shouldn't but it could. I would've simply said "Ladies and Gents, it's simply untrue". I would've said I was in error for allowing myself to get to close to the things of the world and I'll seek the Lord for my failure... But he sounded like he was seeking comfort or reassurance from his congregation.
@@Golden_writes550 John 7:24 tells us, "Do not judge according to appearance, but judge with righteous judgment." The Bible has told us to judge, but we are to judge by what is right. We are not to condemn, and we are not to be judgmental. Rather, we should make evaluations. We should be discerning. We should express our opinions on right and wrong, truth and lies, good and evil. In fact, the Bible tells us, "Do you not know that the saints will judge the world?" (1 Corinthians 6:2).
I’m not taking a TDJakes side at all, but sometimes when a person says they don’t care what people think, they mean it. Whether the allegations are true or not, Jakes has to answer to God not us. All the dramatics are just that…dramatics. The heretical blasphemous doctrine he and his daughter preach is the main concern.
Your exactly right and the perfect people Christians who always have something to o say or judge,don't you think God is watching,now it's several supposed to be people of God that tear down and judge on certain u tube channels ought to be ashamed,the Lord said when He returns He would separate The Wheat from the tare,Sheep from the Goats but obviously we as Smart Christian missed that part, Now da pot can't call the kettle black,or is it Hypocrisy?
I’m always amazed how people who call themselves followers of the Lord but don’t read the scriptures, if this man did what the word says he wouldn’t be in this predicament. This man is a false teacher, he doesn’t care about your soul. Stop defending men, those who belongs to Christ are called to judge
My problem is that he said "even if it is true, all I have to do is repent anyway." And then he edited that part out for the online video. That is highly sus. Even if it is true... He could have left that out. He just made it look like it is in fact true.
I think the only reason this is an issue is because the evidence is already out there and it's all in that case that Diddy settled IMMEDIATELY thinking it would go away.
As I watched Jakes explaination yesterday I was very uneasy 😔 . It sounded like a guilty man's playbook. If you have ever been deceived by someone you cared deeply for, his comments sounds eerily similar to what a man would say if he got caught with lipstick on his collar. 1. I don't care what you think 2. God knows how good I am 3. Start to Cry 😢, get emotional 4. Make jokes about your peen not working while comparing yourself to Abraham. 5. Insult the people they accused you of being with by calling them freaks. 6.Tell them what you did for them, how you never wanted this life. Make them feel sorry for you for being extraordinarily targeted. 7. Change the subject....to a security threat that you were concerned about all week. 8. Cue in supportive wife on a cane. 9. Pray for the people and compare their ordinary everyday situations to your mega scandal....because of course we are all in the same boat.
I feel for the congregation especially if they’ve had hands laid on them. Discernment is so important even if you’re in a church you love be on guard for the wolves in sheep’s skin
His only guilt now, is by association. Did he commit inappropriate acts? We don’t know or do we? True believers ought to pray always, in these situations.
Yep and pray for all that are deceived. Pray he picks up the BIBLE and actually meditates on the word. None of us are righteous or without sin. This world drastically needs Jesus. God bless.
It should never come to this where any pastor name should be calling in such sewer bottom nastiness. Our leaders should be blameless as much as humanly possible. The devil has already taken over too many of these pastors leading itching ear people astray.
I am not a huge TD Jake fan, but I respect what he does. I don't agree with everything he says as I don't agree with everything you say. I think it's sad that you're even committing and analyzing what he said. He's going through a tough time, whether it's true or not. What we should be doing is praying for him and praying that the truth comes to light. Please don't kick someone when they're down. No one would like that to be done to them.
He has a psychology degree, And he loves to talk and knows how to talk And when to talk he reads the bible but he doesn't follow it , Yet he uses it for his own gain and following of people. He thinks he's god
It's funny how Diddy has been silent on all this. If a friend of mine that I respected and held in high esteem was being lied about, I would be the first person to set that record straight!
P Diddy got too much going on with him to even go out of his way to stand up for someone else or he could be happy someone else got the eyes of the world on that person instead of him . P Diddy trying to save himself
Diddy’s lawyers are probably advising him to be still and be quiet. 🤫 He has lawsuits and court dates that are pending. At this point-in-time, no one is going to believe a single word Diddy has to say. He has got serious character flaws so he, in turn, cannot offer character references for Jakes Sr.
I would say, we should absolutely pray for him but, slander hurts most when there is truth or hint of truth mixed in. We should also pray that when he does preach from this point on that it be biblically grounded, not just peppered with scripture to make it sound good.
Hopefully, the rumors are a lie, and this is just a wake-up call to believers that we can't continue to have fellowship with darkness and aspect to keep a good reputation.
He sounds like he’s trying to comfort himself through the reassuring response of the congregation,his words are designed to buttress his own insecurities against the possibility of a growing threat, he seems somewhat unsure of himself and there’s a sense of urgency along with uncertainty about events that’s spiraling out of control and it’s not going away….. he showing signs of anxiety and a little bit intolerant as the situation becomes unmanageable….time is against him..
Gino Jennings should learn not to rejoice in others afflictions..He repels me..He sure ain't helping the body of Christ..He helping destroy the church of Christ
People need to stop assuming how they would respond. For years I responded to lies against me until I realized people actually believe you're guilty when you respond. It's like being damned if you do damned if you don't. Now I don't respond because I know the truth comes out eventually, however, depending on the circumstances I can't say I would never address certain things.
The problem I have with this situation is a bishop’s/ preacher/ Christian name should have not even been affiliated with P. Diddy or any of the things people are bringing up about him.
Puffy has mentioned TD Jakes name in the past as a mentor and someone he looks up to on Interviews . It’s not Bishop fault if Diddy is out there associating his name with the mess that Diddy has going on.
@@brendarobinson7411 yes ma’am the Bible speaks about how dangerous and corrupted it can be for any followers of Jesus being around unrighteousness. When I gave my life to Jesus I left the old man behind including friends that didn’t follow Jesus, I still love them but I love Jesus more.
To live in the Spirit is to walk in the Spirit which means to live a life that depends on the Spirit's power to grow godliness, obey God's Commandments, and experience increasingly intimacy with God. Mercy triumphs judgment. Love is fulfillment of the Law. Pray 🙏
I have interacted with TD Jake’s when he stayed at the hotel I was Managing in Cleveland (The Intercontinental)when he was the keynote speaker for Bishop J. Delano Ellis’s home going. I saw things that at the time didn’t mean anything. In hindsight I believe he’s guilty because his entire entourage were gay men. I mean openly gay not flamboyant or disrespectful but not hiding. I believe he’s guilty.
He said that if the rumors were true, all he would need to do is repent is suspect. Don't go from "not addressing the lies" to "if the rumors are true all I need to do is repent." If they are true, I hope that he does repent and be honest with God, who is the only one who can condemn.
Yeah that didn't help his image at all. If I know for a fact that I'm being falsely accused, I'm not saying anything of that nature because it makes no sense to do so and because it comes off as an admission of guilt in order to head (what's coming next) off at the pass. I would be adamantly defending myself about how I was being targeted and I would be making sure it is known that I would be defending myself with the guidance of the Good Lord.
That’s clearly a concern and to edit it out. Galatians 6:7 - Do not be deceived; God cannot be mocked. A man reaps what he sows. May God be merciful to those who may be using the word like a loophole.
10:45 Looking at his wife, daughter and grandbaby... I feel bad for those ladies. Whether true or not...they have to endure this with him and it can be embarrassing and heartbreaking smh 🤦🏽♀️
Either way this comes to light that its true or not. It breaks my heart . The sermons that have come from pastor Jakes through the years have been so impacting to my life and Christian walk. I pray to God the truth comes forth. Because either way damage has been done . If its all a lie, then the lie needs to be put to rest once and for all!
How can one claim to be so close to you and you've rubbed elbows with this man, and still continued to deal with him? You're a prophet, but you didn't see his dirty deeds or receive warnings about it. The more you talk about what you're called to do Jakes, the bigger the hole gets, because then you have to explain why you didn't see this coming. You said what you preach and teach, but you didn't give the message to the sinner? Instead you hung out with him and partied? Make it make sense!!!!
Could it be that Sean Combs is just that much of a master manipulator that dooped Pastor and now just like us he’s seeing that man for what he really is ?
@@Anjhol73 could be!!! I believe that very well could be the case. The thing is, prophets of God doesn’t get dooped like that. Prophets have the Holy Spirit and go look up who the Holy Spirit is and what comes with having Him. Jakes said he was a prophet, right? Why he couldn’t see who Diddy was or what he was doing. If a prophet can’t recognize evil, then he is a false prophet. So, he’s either lying about being a prophet of God and is deceiving his congregation, or he’s lying about Diddy, or both. Either way it’s not good. Thousands are following him.
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Jakes has been displaying red flags for years
And this is the main reason why these allegations have been so potent even though there's no hard evidence. It's because the allegations are believable to those who have had misgivings about him for years.
Yes. His doctrine is not sound. Also he changes his stance regularly on the various
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@@ericsprings8839 ~ like Eddie Long's wife knew her hubs
His court cases are sealed!
Him, as a pastor, at those Puff Daddy parties with strippers, etc. is all anyone needs to know. Why are you at those parties!?
Friends with the world is enmity with GOD. Everyone stop using that argument that Jesus sat with sinners … he ate with them and preached the GOSPEL to them and to repent! He didn’t chill wit them and fellowship with them daily if so show me in scripture… stop compromising for the compromised. The devil already took over him and his church .
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That is a very good question!
Spot on!
@@theIIIFranklin Graham wouldn't as easily hang around weird stripper parties
My husband lives by never put yourself in a situation to be questioned...
Excellent message Mr Corey and thank you so much for Always using the Holy Scriptures in All your messages I Always enjoyed watching and Listening and Learning from you and Justin Peters and John Macarthur and Voddie Baucher and last but not least Sir Walter Jones whom I see as Men of God who cares about the Souls of the Save and unsaved and to God be the Glory in the Name of Lord Jesus Christ Amen hallelujah glory hallelujah Amen and Pastors like Bishop TD Jakes needs to preach the true Gospel of the Holy Scriptures and stop with all that entertainment and self glorification which I'm so tired of Amen so this whole ordeal with the P Diddy situations should be a learning experience and do Better Amen ❤❤❤
Bless you and your husband in your marriage
Your hubby is a smart man!!!
Amen! Smart man.
Then youd have to be perfect
TD Jakes in my opinion is a performer who gives motivational quotes. It's all about him,him and him
Mammon is his god
Be serious
It’s time for all of us as men and women of God to seek Him like never before 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽 the evil that’s in this world is on a whole new level 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽 time to put on the whole armor of God🙏🏽
Amen
100% correct it is on a whole new level not even being hidden.
Amen 🙏🏽
Am🎉
He said, regarding acceptance of homosexuality, he said “he has evolved and is evolving.” What does that even mean? God’s standards do not change.
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It’s called compromising.😢
Amen! And kept talking about how each church is different, each homosexual is different....my God, My God! How can each church be different if they're supposed to be teaching one thing??
And I don't think he mentioned Jesus Christ one time in that interview
I’m from Charleston West Virginia. OG’s & people there from the mid 1970’s they have some serious personal story’s, about the gay thing & TD Jakes. I can’t say if its true or not, but it’s a lot of Information in them Charleston West Virginia mountains 🤔
right!!! compromise is not acceptable ever ever.
America’s idols are being broken before our eyes!
True!!🙏🙏❤️❤️👀👀
Thank you, Jesus!!!!! Our Savior is going to make everything right 🙏🙏🙏🙏✝️🙌🙌🙌🙌❤️
God is cleaning house, more will be exposed.
That part 🙏🏾
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There isn’t any reason on GODs green earth that he should be in the presence of Pdiddy at his parties. Now if Pdiddy came to his church seeking forgiveness and deliverance then that would make sense.
Very True!!🙏🙏❤️❤️👍👍
Exactly!!!!
Agreed 💯💯
I concur
I mean saying this without context is very irresponsible, apparently it wasn’t a Diddy party it was a revolt birthday for the owner at the time, Diddy was just there .. his sermons are broadcasted on revolt so he stopped by to tell them owner happy birthday.. so saying he should never be in the presence of Diddy is outlandish without context
He neither confirmed nor denied the allegations is what I took from his response 😂
Exactly
He said it was a lie at the beginning
TD is rocked to the core, and it shows. He knows that his public shaming and takedown are just around the corner. He's terrified that the information is going to embarrass and expose who HE really is. Brace yourselves guys...SMH
Well said and I agree with you!
Rocked to the core indeed
He knows it’s all about to “go down” ! We reep what we sow ! Believe me I know .
He's acting guilty to me. If someone accused me of the things he's being accused of, I would just laugh it off because of how crazy the accusations are. But he's clearly shaken by it, it clearly bothers him to the point where he addressed it all throughout his sermon. Even got emotional at points. Not saying the allegations are true or not, but he's acting like a guilty person
He's doing much worse than that. He likes boys from 10 to 15 years old. He will be exposed and will even die. God has announced this through one of His prophets. He will not tolerate his sins anymore and the ones who defend the abuser will be handled like him.
It's bothering him because HE DID IT AND THEREA PROOF
Yes.
If I was accused of something like of course I would want to explain myself. At first he seemed like he wasent going to and fought against it but ended up talking about it which is acting guiltily so I hope he didn’t do it.
He was so shakey
It sounds like he's looking for sympathy, justification & validation.
I felt he was making sure he still had his followers HOOK, LINE and SINKER.
And He will get it! Church folk will be coming with the Judge Nots in droves but will be alright to be sitting under the spiritual headship of such person that will keep them sick spiritually and blind . These churches have Been Scandalous for a long time and these defiled people are out here laying hands on people and invoking strong demons upon the masses.
@@IbriyGad I would not disagree with you there.
Shrek needs validation from his gullible crowd...smh.
Don't it. He said if it was true I could just repent.
His congregation worships him more than God! He keeps saying “ give God the praise” but yet he’s pointing back to himself! Smh
Real talk 💯💯💯
I caught that, too
I agree @mikeflores6254, I caught that as he continued through the response, how he would intertwine the message of GOD then him being the victims.....😒⁉️
Typical black church people who believe man instead of God's word. Applauding whatever this man is saying
It's really sickening. 😏
Very sober commentary. The most balanced and helpful I've heard so far. God bless you. Let's fix our eyes on Jesus, He warned us of these perilous times.
Amen 🙏
This isn't a sermon. It's a Press Release. He may as well had sat down with 60 Minutes.
He sure spent a lot of time not responding
Which might have been a good strategy if he didn't decide to end the silence by venting like an effeminate woman on the pulpit. This response just made him look more sus.
😂😂😂 I was just thinking that
I am good" ie I am testing the mood of the congregation. He needs to convince God, not man.
To me he is just a show man .
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He’s using the crowd as a comfort tool. Using them to calm himself down.
Yeah, its all about Jakes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It’s called regulating, narcissists use this tactic
Great point!
@@bettycarmella1127good point. Playing the victim.
You nailed it!
He seems guilty of something. Like, he's clearly bothered by something, and if he were truly innocent, there's no reason for feeling guilty. Something isn't right.
He feels guilty but we need evidence
@@oluyemiogun596 To a certain extent, you're correct - there's a certain level of judgment we shouldn't give before hearing all the facts. However, the initial eye test doesn't look good here. He's displaying the mannerisms of someone that did something. TD Jakes is always cool, composed and collected. In these clips, he's rattled. Again, if you're innocent of something, there's no reason to keep rehashing something you don't want to talk about.
@@250miles2he's never had to confront accusations like these before. No matter what Jakes and his camp says there will always be folks out there who will believe the worst about him
He does look notably nervous & guilty.
@@250miles2totally agree! He’s rattled because he sees his coin coming to a quick halt. A hit dog gonna holler and there is a reason he was called out.
I noticed in the video of T.D. Jakes the shaking of his hands and the quivering in his voice. For someone who speaks to hundreds of people every Sunday, he is very nervous as he addresses these allegations, although he said he would not address it.
I noticed that too. The shaking of the hands. The voice.
People give off clues when they are not being truthful. They may not be aware of it and think they are doing a good job at hiding it but we know.
Pastors, never ever be alone with anyone but your wife. Period, no exceptions.
He’s not being held accountable for his actions. He’s brushing his own allegations because he knows no one at the potter house will confront him
Maybe not but I heard he lost some members.
HE HAS GOTTEN SO VERY ALOOF AND HIGHER THAN HIS CONGREGATION, THAT THEY CANNOT SPEAK TO HIM AS JUST ANOTHER BROTHER!
WHO HIM!! HE IS THE BISHOP!! AFTER ALL! NO ONE CAN TOUCH HIM!!
What ever happened to taking a lie detector test.
@@amemark8843 it doesn’t always detect lies.
Here go my issue: we keep letting stuff like this and financial improprieties happen and we do not hold these people accountable by questioning them. We just let them go on this emotional discourse to rouse your emotions to get you to turn your head another way and the pimping and lying keeps happening
Because at this point this is a cult.
I agree with yall both!
I Agree
these pastors brought shame above the Name of Jesus, above the church of Jesus, above us all. The judgement beginns in the house of God.
Accountability would actually de-frock them from ministry & cause them to “make redress,” in any Abrahamic religion, strictly practiced. An ancient phrase & idea, but nearly all “laws” are rooted in it. It means to proactively compensate for the harm, damage, injuries & injustices caused by an individual. “Redress.” Repair. Repay in-kind. Restore.
Until the people harmed the most have been restored to states of wholeness, the “sin” or sinful acts are not requited. Particularly willful harm.
One CAN claim the sacrificial offering-up of one’s “savior” as an appeasement from punishments to come, said to lessen the severity of harsh conditions, etc., etc. But, for every sacrifice one makes, one’s “priest” (leader) is required to make two (2) acc. to the scripture also.
Seriously undertaken & intentional misinterpretation has long, long, long presented “belief” itself as redemptive redemption, & so being pre-forgiven in advance of one’s next “sin” (or harmful act) has inspired ideas of absolute impunity under religious cloaking to be widespread, extending from the medieval clergy down to everyone/anyone unwilling to endure any material consequences today, globally. (How convenient is that??😂😂🤣😂🤣😜🤣🤣)
HAD the religious organizations instituted some governing standards, wherein leadership & followers were actually scrutinized and held to any evaluation levels that were universal to the whole, they all might have been able to better substantiate their claims of having had a religious “practice.” Lawyers have a practice. Doctors have a practice. Musicians have a practice. All held to standards of evaluation for credentials as well as credibility.
Religious “practice” patently & materially remains so subjective as to exist in virtual chaos & in constant conflict with other religions in the USA-concept, stemming from its European colonial concept usages of “religion” both as a power base & as a foil for wars & acts of war.
Religious practice has little evidence, if any, of ever having actually been put into practice in the USA-concept as any sort of governing dynamic-or even concessionary dynamic-between people.
Otherwise, Injustice, Disparity, Mass killings of entire villages, enslavement, etc. WOULD have been tempered-in some tangible way-by a preponderance of “religious people/religious communities,” historically over time. Yet that has never occurred, never was legally inscribed.
Religious practice, since the age of Televangelism, for all proven results & intentions, currently is primarily an Entertainment venue, broadly speaking. You will find very few “strong beliefs” backed by behaviors, by actions, very few even knowing what Religion is, nor its fundamental purpose, & very, very few religiously practicing anything except “lunch hour,” every day, at all times, consistently & “faithfully” as is often claimed. IF they do, or have done so, where’s the proof of its religious impact?
Systemic Injustice/Racism has had global impact. All religions draw their official charters from that System of “getting everything done,” acc. to “race.” “Race” being just as mythologically-based in scientific terms, as Religion, & furthermore relying near-exclusively on phenotype genetic traits.
Therefore, it is accurate to say that the most powerful, most successful & most dominant religion worldwide, that people HAVE strictly adhered-to & abided by all rules under is, most evidently, Racism/Systemic Injustice. ⚖️🕯⚖️🕯⚖️🕯❄️⛄️
Yes, the problem is these people don’t know the scriptures they just swallow whatever they are fed from these “celebrity preachers.”
Yes, they worship the preachers and leaders of the church, but don’t worship GOD ALMIGHTY.
I agree with ya !
Yup
These type Churches are basically club houses or cult groups where congregations are practically lost to in the sea of deceits, manipulations and lies.
Exactly!!!!
Thanks Corey for that video, you have dealt with this issue with great care, gentleness and biblical wisdom of a godly pastor. God bless.
i attended the church for ten years and was practically raised there at potter’s house. i worked backstage and saw things that most people would be surprised take place. some people who accuse jakes of certain things over the years like taking the members finances for his own personal gain and etc i know to be false. bishop jake’s gave me a scholarship to college back in 2016 which i’m forever grateful for but after all the things that i witnessed while being there, i wouldn’t be surprised if some of the allegations were true
Wait, what? The financial stuff I get, because his tax statements are on the internet, and he doesn't have to take the church's money because he's making a killing with those books. But what do you mean by the other stuff? Promiscuity and homosexuality?
@@TheAutumnWind_RN4L i legit found used condems in the one of the lead pastor’s office once just to name one incident. it just wasn’t a healthy environment for me
@@datkiddtho glad you got out, bro.
@@TheAutumnWind_RN4L I think they seen other things
Truth is, many of us in ministry place a lot of emphasis on ministering right, but not as much attention to living right. It's the "living right" that is the real ministry.
He keeps saying he's ok.. is the indicator that's he's not and showing guilt.. SMH
Should we tell him that INDIRECTLY addressing it is STILL addressing it?
... Nah 🙏🏾
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lol!! So true!
This is exactly what I said ! Had it not been true why bother to mention it at all ? Thats addressing it and the fact that he called the rumors a lie is addressing it !!!!
He Consistently Addresses This Scandal Throughout His Sermon and More!!
I smell a guilty rat. 😏
@gertrudebuck ~ but did he post the ‘whole’ sermon?
That's the guilt slipping through
If he’s truly done nothing wrong, I believe the Lord will protect him and preserve his reputation
The Lord would also steer him away from his ungodly celeb buddies and would also lead him towards embracing the biblical doctrine of the Trinity he adamantly rejects
Or on the contrary, things done in darkness will come to light
Amen!
God is exposing him
@@levornspencer5752 where? Show me
He addressed it his entire sermon .
He tried to vindicate himself, and he went at it too hard. He should have just preached the word and kept silent. You should never use the pulpit to iron out your grievances. You might as well say guilty as charged!
You right
Indeed!!!
He's guilty by association...he clearly being disobeying GOD for Many years......
My thoughts exactly! Just do as he been doing get up there preach and remain silent.
This is a nonsensical statement! He should use the pulpit to stand on the character he needs to be in to be able to have the Office of Ministry! You cannot stand in Office To The Most High anyhow you want like at all. He needs to address It right there and repent. The thing is people want just anyone preaching to them and will use the excuse that He is just human but There is A STANDARD!
I've really reached a point where I'm not surprised with any rumors. - just because I've been in the church as a musician, and seeing more behind the scenes for my whole life. And I try not to get involved with the gossip of individuals. But I DO speak on the bigger picture, and the bigger picture is that the whole mega church/prosperity gospel culture is going through a reckoning. More people are finally stepping away from taking offense to critique about what and who they love, and are actually seeing different things for themselves - one of those main things being seeing their heroes (and some would even say "idols") fall from grace. Not that every single one of us doesn't have things that could get us in hot water too, but I think it's about how we handle certain situations and certain topics. If a preacher can preach a deceptive "gospel" to you, what makes you think they can't deceive you in other ways too?? That's just where I am these days. From growing up, knowing that so many of our male Gospel singers are homosexual, to knowing that so many of our preachers and pastors are freemasons, and everything in between. NOTHING surprises me anymore.
Same here. I keep wondering if THEY know or understand the consequences of what they're doing. Because the Lord is NOT pleased with the Laodecean churches.
In speaking on that it's like they're preying on individuals in a horrible economy saying that God will bless them because they are paying for his mansion and his jet, and expensive lifestyle
THIS!!!!!!!!!!
@@vickieadams6648 ~ now vickie THAT is what keeps coming to my mind: they Hold the Scriptures in their hands and they can read AND they can DECIPHER what the Word says...and STILL Not know🤔 about the day of reckoning 🧐 ....unless he is innocent of the allegations🎭 (Being convicted in the court of public opinion[s])
Free Masons, now . . . !?
That reminds me of how Bishop Eddie Long "addressed his allegations". Not saying TD is guilty but just comparing the similarities.
Eddie Long never said he didn't do it. He danced around it. Jakes said in the Clip he didn't do it. Big difference. When all the evidence comes out, we will know if he lied or not.
youre not wrong
@@l.t.3857Eddie Long was his spiritual son as well
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@@patreese4616 Jakes ain’t deny it, he said he won’t address a lie, there’s a lot of lies that he could be talking about
Even the very appearance of evil is to be avoided. All of God’s children should remember this truth.
This is sad for him regardless of whether it’s true or not. He really shouldn’t have been at those parties. Sad day for him either way. 😢
He could be using emotionalism to minipulate his congregation.😢
Could be? He is.
Spot on Corey. The Bible says that the overseer should be above reproach. To avoid the very appearance of any improper relationship. T.D. has been known to associate with popular non-Christians in his business dealings. Lay down with dogs, wake up with fleas.
Amen, straight from the Book!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Allegedly he has investment in REVOLT TV
That's true cause God says NOT to let your good be evil spoken of!
The Bible says - Let not your good be evil spoken of - Roman 14:16. Meaning do not put yourself in questionable situations where your good can be questioned.
Say so
I'm in a program called aa and I'm just a recovering addict and everyone's watches me who I talk to and every thing thr fact he was around party boys on Hollywood show he probably played too they surely were not praying, Hollywood is no place 4 men of God
T.D. JAKES BLEW HIS COVER WHEN HE SHOWED UP AT THIS ""BELSHAZZAR"" PARTY. WE ALL KNOW WHAT GOES ON AT THIS HELL-DESERVING ORGY FEST. SOMETHING ATTRACTED HIM THERE. AS THE OLD SAYING GO, "" YOU GO SNIFFING AROUND THE OLE HOUND DOG, YOU'RE LIABLE TO GET BITTEN.""
Excellent response/commentary. Thank you for sharing your Christian maturity and Word-based wisdom.
Also, Go Colts!
It doesn’t matter if it’s true or not. He is in the situation he is in because he started going to celebrity parties for either sex , money or both. I knew he had a problem with fame and money when he allowed Tyler Perry to speak from his pulpit and then lay hands on him while he catches the Holy Ghost. I never looked at him same after that. I had no idea he had previous molestation accusations and pay offs till recently. I do know that my pastor going to these parties with Puff Daddy isn’t a good look so that opens him up to all types of accusations. He did this to himself either way and this is sad.
Well said. He got two big for his britches!!
No its not sad he knows exactly what he is doing
@@lashenarodulfo3501 it is Sad for his members and his family. No matter what.
I really enjoy & appreciate Tyler Perry as an actor & a mogul...But why on earth would Bishop allow him to lay hands on him? It should have been the other way around!
Yeah, never saw him the same way when Tyler Perry laid hands on him and prayed for him... 🙄😏
All you have to do is look at the faces of the family members you can see something is bothering them
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Yes in the daughters eyes
He spent 7 minutes responding to the allegations…
After saying he wasn’t going to🤦🏽♀️
When ur guilty U gotta make it sound believable, cause U know, I just stopped by Diddy's party😂😂😂 lying clown
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Your comments are Extremely sound and scripturally on point. Thank you for sharing this video and the Word!
THE CHILDREN OF GOD KNOW WHAT’S UP! WE SHALL NOT BE DECEIVED, HALLELUYAH! I enjoyed watching your Holy Spirit filled message. God bless!
So he’s not addressing it by addressing it. 🙄🤦🏻♀️
Lying 😂from the first sentence 😂😂😂
I've never known him to address anything in the past. I wasn't expecting him to address it. God knows all things and if any of it is true it will be revealed.
For every good reason I’m hoping and praying that none of these rumors turn out to be true. I’m just sick and tired of all these preachers and all the scandal. It hurts us all.😢
Amen
You call him a preacher you in denial
Not us......them because its all pretentious
THAT PART !!!😪😪😪😪
They (Preachers) are only human, no better no worse.
I want to say thank you for handling this video with such grace and truth.
You teach, you live the life you preach about. The blind can not lead the blind. He is lost. Yes he is lost.
You teach, you live the life you preach about. The blind can not lead the blind. He is lost. Yes he is lost.
You teach, you live the life you preach about. The blind can not lead the blind. He is lost. Yes he is lost.
You teach, you live the life you preach about. The blind can not lead the blind. He is lost. Yes he is lost.
You teach, you live the life you preach about. The blind can not lead the blind. He is lost. Yes he is lost.
Praying for Jakes and the entire body of Christ that we might humble ourselves and walk obediently with the Lord. God will sift, refine and discipline. May we have hearts to let Him have His way in us.
It’s hard to imagine anyone could preach the gospel and do the things he is accused of. It is a terrible thing to fall into the hands of the living God. Much more terrible than losing your ministry or reputation. I’m watching and praying.
Praying for him?
He doesn't preach the Gospel. He preaches about self improvement and getting what you want in life. Motivational emptiness.
PRIDE Goes Before The FALL
I'm going to say what the Bible says in 1 Corinthians 15:33.."Do not be deceived: “Bad company corrupts good character.” This is the Spirit of Truth guiding him into all truth to reveal this is what's happening. As believers, we've been commanded in 2 Corinthians 6:17 that we're to come out from unbelievers and live separated from the way they live. To not touch their filthy things! In other words when we're hanging out with the world we become contaminated by the things they do. Period. This is God speaking!
Yet matthew 28:19 JESUS SAID! not paul … GO YE INTO ALL THE WORLD BAPTIZING TEACHING THEM TO OBSERVE ALL THINGS IVE SAID UNTO YOU! .. the one thing i have disagreed with in the houses of worship ( churches) the over trivialization and tribal spirit that prevents them from going into the world! You must remember paul was dealing with ppl steeped in their sin who were new believers he had to preach separation first !! The disciples were prepped taught and changed in Jesus presence for years… They were ready to go into the world. He also says Luke 22:31 when thou are strengthened , GO STRENGTHEN THY BRETHREN! How is the church going to affectively influence the world if it cannot go into ALL THE WORLD? Content matters here. If we r to be like Jesus… PLEASE REMEMBER HE WAS ALWAYS HOLY EVEN AMONG THE SINNERS , BRCUZ HE WAS ALWAYS AMONG THE SINNERS COMPELLING THEM TO COME!! He above all was prepared to go, as should any believer be prepared!! ( consecrated, wise, strategic and holy ghost filled) so u can affect the world snd compel them to come!! Some of yall will never influence a dinner becuz u have no power! No disciplines to seek God for an anointing to win souls! THIS IS SERIOUS!!!! … fyi a pastor is a Shepard! He Shepards the flock for Gods sake! Even Jesus addresses this in Revelation … behold i will come unto you and remove your candlestick the Angel ( pastor) from thy presence!! If Jesus can give reference to a pastor as an Angel, its not far fetched to not see He would understand a pastor referencing himself as Shepard! Again… GOD IS THE FATHER, THE SON, THE HOLY SPIRIT! WATER, STEAM, ICE! ALL DIFFERENT FORMS OF THE SAME SUBSTANCE !!
@@reggiecarter9581 Brother, there is a BIG difference in "going" and "being." We are to GO into all nations to teach and make disciples, not to BE like the world. We are NOT to conform to the patterns of the world. I go into the world daily letting my Light so shine so men can see my good works and my Heavenly Father be glorified. I don't go into the world to participate in the unfruitful works of darkness. I encourage you to seek God about this and yield to His Spirit to guide you into all truth.
@@millettesmart3784 calm down the prayer oil ritual my brother! 😂Reread my entire dialogue … i dont condone staying in sin, nor being active participants in any lifestyle thats antithetical to Gods character… but my position is still steadfast!! The bulk of my point was and still is for churches to come out of these buildings and go get involved with the people , who otherwise will or would not come to your church ! But in order to do this effectively one must be consecrated! Anointed and full of the holy ghost becuuuuz of the depth of the spiritual fight ! THE WORLD WILL NEVER HEAR OF NOR SHIFT IF THOSE OF US WHO CLAIM CHRIST ARE AMONG THE WORLD ONLY TO “ LET OUR LIGHTS SHINE”!! But work the work of the one who sent us! Right, do the work of a disciple!! Thats takes building relationships and crying loud and sparing not!!! Be not deceived God is not mocked … gird up our loins with truth , you will need it to stand the temptations . Lets not act as tho we have nooo weakness , and God cannot rightly fault any of us👀 !! BE CAREFUL HOW WE DISMANTLE OTHERS!! lets not rejoice if one falls but yet pick up the blood stained banner and do the work of an evangelist !! MY POINT IS ITS BEYOND TIME FOR UD COLLECTIVELY TO GO ENGAGE THE WORLD IF THERE IS SNY HOPE OF IT CHANGING !!! MATTHEW 5:13!!
@@millettesmart3784 lets refrain from assuming people who have opinions or oppose our stance are lost or misguided, or need to “ seek Gods guidance to yielded in all truth 🤦🏾♂️” u dont know me maam… im as humble as can be and have given my life to God for years of servitude in His kingdom and my community ! Dont assume becuz i share my opinions that im somehow speaking aloft or heresy , u remind me of those self righteous church ladies who are so ready to bang their gavel on peoples lives whom they disapprove. Peace n blessings be unto u…
@@reggiecarter9581 it wasn't my intent for you to feel I was assuming anything about you because I encouraged you to seek God and yield to the Holy Spirit to guide you in all the truth. This is what we all as believers should be doing. I don't base what I believe on opinions but truth that comes from God's Word. I have no problem with you disagreeing with me but I won't argue. So this is my last reply to you. I pray you continue to have a great day!
His response sounded a lot like Eddie Long’s response. And that roaring congregation just makes me SMH. Folks just idolize these folks. And he would’ve been better off not mentioning it than to mention that you’re not going to mention it. Makes him look guilty.🤷🏾♀️
All he had to do is provide a brief expression of "It's not true" to those who look to him to be the man of God that he claims. His failure can cause others in his church to stumble. It shouldn't but it could. I would've simply said "Ladies and Gents, it's simply untrue". I would've said I was in error for allowing myself to get to close to the things of the world and I'll seek the Lord for my failure... But he sounded like he was seeking comfort or reassurance from his congregation.
Exactly 💯
He refuses to preach against Homosexuality. Out of his own mouth.
Why should he? That's not his job lol
@@Biyou22 aint a preacher job to preach about what the Bible says now?
@@magdacavuquila3263 no
@@magdacavuquila3263 facts!!! Preach the Bible. The Bible is against homosexuality.
No need for church, where the pastors are wolves in sheeps clothing.
Make your home, your place of worship!
He's making this his entire sermon.
Thank you, Lord, for giving me discernment by seeing TDJakes years ago. Sin will be uncovered
Amen. I've always felt in my spirit him and Bishop Eddie Long liked men.
@@areyoublind2502 You guys need to watch what your saying. All things in Love and consider yourself less you fall as well.
@@Golden_writes550 John 7:24 tells us, "Do not judge according to appearance, but judge with righteous judgment." The Bible has told us to judge, but we are to judge by what is right. We are not to condemn, and we are not to be judgmental. Rather, we should make evaluations. We should be discerning. We should express our opinions on right and wrong, truth and lies, good and evil. In fact, the Bible tells us, "Do you not know that the saints will judge the world?" (1 Corinthians 6:2).
He's trying to convince us and him self
Sure sounds like it ! 😂
Tell me you are guilty without telling me you are guilty
I love your analysis and your gracious delivery. May the great Lord continue to anoint your path❤
I’m not taking a TDJakes side at all, but sometimes when a person says they don’t care what people think, they mean it. Whether the allegations are true or not, Jakes has to answer to God not us. All the dramatics are just that…dramatics. The heretical blasphemous doctrine he and his daughter preach is the main concern.
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With age and wealth for many years.and able to do what ever you wanted to do.Right He's not concern or worried.
Your exactly right and the perfect people Christians who always have something to o say or judge,don't you think God is watching,now it's several supposed to be people of God that tear down and judge on certain u tube channels ought to be ashamed,the Lord said when He returns He would separate The Wheat from the tare,Sheep from the Goats but obviously we as Smart Christian missed that part, Now da pot can't call the kettle black,or is it Hypocrisy?
You care what people think if they are accusing you of being a pedophile!
I’m always amazed how people who call themselves followers of the Lord but don’t read the scriptures, if this man did what the word says he wouldn’t be in this predicament. This man is a false teacher, he doesn’t care about your soul. Stop defending men, those who belongs to Christ are called to judge
My problem is that he said "even if it is true, all I have to do is repent anyway." And then he edited that part out for the online video. That is highly sus. Even if it is true... He could have left that out. He just made it look like it is in fact true.
I think the only reason this is an issue is because the evidence is already out there and it's all in that case that Diddy settled IMMEDIATELY thinking it would go away.
Are you serious?!? He said that????
@@Shaylala19937 yeah which really made me lean towards maybe it is true
@@Shaylala19937 he said it right before offering time
@@TamaraKobue that’s crazy!! Did you still give your offering?
As I watched Jakes explaination yesterday I was very uneasy 😔 . It sounded like a guilty man's playbook. If you have ever been deceived by someone you cared deeply for, his comments sounds eerily similar to what a man would say if he got caught with lipstick on his collar.
1. I don't care what you think
2. God knows how good I am
3. Start to Cry 😢, get emotional
4. Make jokes about your peen not working while comparing yourself to Abraham.
5. Insult the people they accused you of being with by calling them freaks.
6.Tell them what you did for them, how you never wanted this life. Make them feel sorry for you for being extraordinarily targeted.
7. Change the subject....to a security threat that you were concerned about all week.
8. Cue in supportive wife on a cane.
9. Pray for the people and compare their ordinary everyday situations to your mega scandal....because of course we are all in the same boat.
This! 💯
I feel for the congregation especially if they’ve had hands laid on them. Discernment is so important even if you’re in a church you love be on guard for the wolves in sheep’s skin
He’s guilty guilty guilty And God has called him out
What a great response. You are gracious and kind yet, you are biblically sound in pointing out the challenges. I will tune in more to you….
His only guilt now, is by association. Did he commit inappropriate acts? We don’t know or do we? True believers ought to pray always, in these situations.
No one who hangs out with those people , especially at that proximity, evades participating in familiar acts.
Maybe believers have been praying always and been asking God to clean his church for the salvation of souls
Have you thought of that
@faithing88 now this! yes yes yes, exactly!
The evidence lies at our face. We can pray but he needs to own his part & repent or else he just another wolf in sheep’s clothing
LetUsPray for Pastor Jakes!!! ❤ that he come to Repentance!!! Amen!!!
Amen
Amen. Most importantly!
Yep and pray for all that are deceived. Pray he picks up the BIBLE and actually meditates on the word. None of us are righteous or without sin. This world drastically needs Jesus. God bless.
However, he needs to step down...even Paul was a tent maker..jesys was a carpenter
Repentance for what exactly? why does it seem like you have already passed judgement on him?
It should never come to this where any pastor name should be calling in such sewer bottom nastiness. Our leaders should be blameless as much as humanly possible. The devil has already taken over too many of these pastors leading itching ear people astray.
I am not a huge TD Jake fan, but I respect what he does. I don't agree with everything he says as I don't agree with everything you say. I think it's sad that you're even committing and analyzing what he said. He's going through a tough time, whether it's true or not. What we should be doing is praying for him and praying that the truth comes to light. Please don't kick someone when they're down. No one would like that to be done to them.
What if he has been turned over to a reprobate mind and is still wanting people to drink the kool-aid
Only the truth but only truth that can sets a person free ❤
He did it . Clearly
😂😂😂😂 you got me crying laughing smh
He has a psychology degree, And he loves to talk and knows how to talk And when to talk he reads the bible but he doesn't follow it , Yet he uses it for his own gain and following of people. He thinks he's god
I thought he said he was not going to address it....??? BUT HE ADDRESSES IT...
the entire sermon
God bless you, my brother. I appreciate the wisdom with which you analyze these issues.
Gaslighting in full effect
It's funny how Diddy has been silent on all this. If a friend of mine that I respected and held in high esteem was being lied about, I would be the first person to set that record straight!
Good point
P Diddy got too much going on with him to even go out of his way to stand up for someone else or he could be happy someone else got the eyes of the world on that person instead of him . P Diddy trying to save himself
Diddy’s lawyers are probably advising him to be still and be quiet. 🤫 He has lawsuits and court dates that are pending. At this point-in-time, no one is going to believe a single word Diddy has to say. He has got serious character flaws so he, in turn, cannot offer character references for Jakes Sr.
Very Good Point
True!👍👍❤️❤️🙏🙏
I would say, we should absolutely pray for him but, slander hurts most when there is truth or hint of truth mixed in. We should also pray that when he does preach from this point on that it be biblically grounded, not just peppered with scripture to make it sound good.
Hope he changes.
A sucker is born every time I blink
TD Jake's let fame get to his head. I attended his congregation and was baptized there prior to all this. Very different atmosphere.
THIS BAD BEHAVIOR WILL ALWAYS POSE A PROBLEM AS LONG AS THERE ARE WOLVES AND PIMPS IN THE PULPIT.
Bro Corey I fully appreciate and agree with the content of this video. 👍🏽
Arrogant nasty liar...what's he gonna say when the photographic evidence comes out
He all on video lord jesus
Hopefully, the rumors are a lie, and this is just a wake-up call to believers that we can't continue to have fellowship with darkness and aspect to keep a good reputation.
THESE RUMORS ARE NOT ALL LIES
He sounds like he’s trying to comfort himself through the reassuring response of the congregation,his words are designed to buttress his own insecurities against the possibility of a growing threat, he seems somewhat unsure of himself and there’s a sense of urgency along with uncertainty about events that’s spiraling out of control and it’s not going away….. he showing signs of anxiety and a little bit intolerant as the situation becomes unmanageable….time is against him..
Gino jennings has really ruffled his feathers
Gino Jennings should learn not to rejoice in others afflictions..He repels me..He sure ain't helping the body of Christ..He helping destroy the church of Christ
He sure did 😂
Gino is not no True man of God
People need to stop assuming how they would respond. For years I responded to lies against me until I realized people actually believe you're guilty when you respond. It's like being damned if you do damned if you don't. Now I don't respond because I know the truth comes out eventually, however, depending on the circumstances I can't say I would never address certain things.
The problem I have with this situation is a bishop’s/ preacher/ Christian name should have not even been affiliated with P. Diddy or any of the things people are bringing up about him.
Puffy has mentioned TD Jakes name in the past as a mentor and someone he looks up to on Interviews . It’s not Bishop fault if Diddy is out there associating his name with the mess that Diddy has going on.
@@Anjhol73 True but he was seen at his parties that’s a huge problem.
@@Anjhol73 exactly. Nothing he says will stop folks for crusifying him. I will say yall better stop. Touch not his annointed do his prophet no harm.
Why because he's a spiritual leader
@@brendarobinson7411 yes ma’am the Bible speaks about how dangerous and corrupted it can be for any followers of Jesus being around unrighteousness. When I gave my life to Jesus I left the old man behind including friends that didn’t follow Jesus, I still love them but I love Jesus more.
To live in the Spirit is to walk in the Spirit which means to live a life that depends on the Spirit's power to grow godliness, obey God's Commandments, and experience increasingly intimacy with God. Mercy triumphs judgment.
Love is fulfillment of the Law. Pray 🙏
Well said brother 🙏
His water downed response is a direct reflection of the lack of care he has for the people he blindly leads
They blindly follow
I found his crying to be unforced almost like when a child cries while lying, knowing they are caught.
I just happened to come across ur page, and glad I did!! Ur delivery was bomb!! Ty!! 🥰👀🍿🎬
I have interacted with TD Jake’s when he stayed at the hotel I was Managing in Cleveland (The Intercontinental)when he was the keynote speaker for Bishop J. Delano Ellis’s home going. I saw things that at the time didn’t mean anything. In hindsight I believe he’s guilty because his entire entourage were gay men. I mean openly gay not flamboyant or disrespectful but not hiding. I believe he’s guilty.
He said that if the rumors were true, all he would need to do is repent is suspect. Don't go from "not addressing the lies" to "if the rumors are true all I need to do is repent." If they are true, I hope that he does repent and be honest with God, who is the only one who can condemn.
Yeah that didn't help his image at all. If I know for a fact that I'm being falsely accused, I'm not saying anything of that nature because it makes no sense to do so and because it comes off as an admission of guilt in order to head (what's coming next) off at the pass.
I would be adamantly defending myself about how I was being targeted and I would be making sure it is known that I would be defending myself with the guidance of the Good Lord.
You are spot on..that sounds fishy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@@apexone5502well said
That’s clearly a concern and to edit it out. Galatians 6:7 - Do not be deceived; God cannot be mocked. A man reaps what he sows. May God be merciful to those who may be using the word like a loophole.
Man you nailing the break down of him exactly 👍🏽
10:45
Looking at his wife, daughter and grandbaby... I feel bad for those ladies. Whether true or not...they have to endure this with him and it can be embarrassing and heartbreaking smh 🤦🏽♀️
What embarrassing is his wife and daughter preaching when they not supposed to
@@waynejeffery6995 ..🎯🎯..this the one! They shouldn't be in the pulpit..
Either way this comes to light that its true or not. It breaks my heart . The sermons that have come from pastor Jakes through the years have been so impacting to my life and Christian walk. I pray to God the truth comes forth. Because either way damage has been done . If its all a lie, then the lie needs to be put to rest once and for all!
I love the humble way you presented this video
How can one claim to be so close to you and you've rubbed elbows with this man, and still continued to deal with him? You're a prophet, but you didn't see his dirty deeds or receive warnings about it. The more you talk about what you're called to do Jakes, the bigger the hole gets, because then you have to explain why you didn't see this coming. You said what you preach and teach, but you didn't give the message to the sinner? Instead you hung out with him and partied? Make it make sense!!!!
Exactly
Could it be that Sean Combs is just that much of a master manipulator that dooped Pastor and now just like us he’s seeing that man for what he really is ?
@@Anjhol73 could be!!! I believe that very well could be the case. The thing is, prophets of God doesn’t get dooped like that. Prophets have the Holy Spirit and go look up who the Holy Spirit is and what comes with having Him. Jakes said he was a prophet, right? Why he couldn’t see who Diddy was or what he was doing. If a prophet can’t recognize evil, then he is a false prophet. So, he’s either lying about being a prophet of God and is deceiving his congregation, or he’s lying about Diddy, or both. Either way it’s not good. Thousands are following him.
Well done this video was levelheaded and full of grace. Merry Christmas.
He's SHOOK and, no doubt, scared. You can see it!
He keeps talking in past tense, too, like he knows it's over.
A pulpit is only a sacred as a person that's in it 😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢
Another problem with Jakes, which shows he's a false teacher is, he preaches the pro$perity go$pel.