Great video Mat! Always happy to see a new one from you, you should have had a job in TV or radio! Sorry to hear the commenters have been getting you down.With all the crazy stuff happening politically right now, your videos are a much appreciated break from the insanity, thanks for doing what you do!
@@ShesSometimesDoubleChocolate. idk maybe. I'm just sick of lighting up at the notification for an extra long video from a channel I really like, only to remember it''s the 1st of April so it's probably 30 minutes of BS non-content.
Yes, it is a good review, but this camera still does not sound very attractive to me. Over 300€ for the camera and afterwards they charge you the price for the camera again until you have all the accessories.
Ahh, thank you for doing a REAL review! So many reviews are just first impressions without actual experience. I appreciate the time and effort put into this 👍
FYI When taking Panoramas on the DJI Osmo Pocket (and many other DJI Products) the pano image saved to the phone is only a fraction of the size of the source files saved on the CD card. You can download the pano source images from the SD card and stitch them together on a PC using the DJI Media Maker app provided by DJI (just google it for a link) or there are 3rd party tools that will let you create a full resolution panoramic shot from those same files. Also the phone adapter can be reversed so the end that plugs into the phone is stored closer to the camera body during storage. Though you should know this because you get a warning that the plug and wifi adapter can't be connected at the same time. This can is resolved by inserting the phone plug adapter the opposite way.
Thanks for commenting this, if you're just posting a pano to the web then the low res is probably fine but it is nice to have access to the full resolution images, same for timelapses and motionlapses.
Fen totally agree. I can post the phone saves to social media but if I want to print something (ended up printing many labor from my older Osmo Plus) I’ll refer to the source files.
Fantastic long-term review. Thank you for taking the time to post this. I’m fascinated by the *idea* of this device, but I do think it was rushed to market in an unfinished state. I do hope for a second generation version that is a complete product. Some things I would look for, and would expect to pay a *little* more money for, would include: 1. Wider angle lens. 2. Inbuilt wireless. 3. External audio support (mic port, support for wireless mic/earbud monitor) 4. “Log” low-contrast, low-saturation video output for color grading. 5. Inbuilt jog wheel or thumb pad for panning/tilting. 6. Forego the direct physical connection to the phone. There should be no need for this in 2019. We have NFC, Bluetooth, WiFi which should all be sufficient for use without direct port connections. 7. Ease way back on the accessories. Make this thing work out of the box really well. 8. Tripod mount at the base.
For creating high res panoramic images Microsoft ICE (Image Composite Editor) is a really good free tool for Windows. All you need to do is take a bunch of overlapping pictures at the same exposure, throw them all into ICE and the application will automatically find out what picture goes where. It takes a bit of time to process, especially if you have a lot of images. You can then select between several different projections to get something that looks right for the image you took and crop out a finished image that will have a really high resolution.
I feel like this product is the result of a lot of compromise and internal struggle at DJI over what their next product should be, resulting in a device that isn't great at any of it's potential use cases. Out of the box it's too wide to be used purely as a camera attachment for your phone but lacks even the most basic physical controls needed for solo operation. It has a 4k sensor and a lot of prosumer friendly functionality, but lacks an external microphone port and tripod mounting. They have a litany of aftermarket accessories but other than the controller attachment they're all too expensive for how simple and restricted they are, leaving them out priced and sometimes out featured by other companies' accessories.
lol wtf? DJI invented and standardized many of the key consumer quadcopter technologies. Everyone else is copying them. nobody else makes better drones for this market segment. They have many products in production, this is just one for a niche market. @@aserta
I really appreciate this video. I purchased the camera 28 days ago and haven't had much luck producing anything of value. I kept it because I had hoped it was my inexperience, not the unit. This video has sold me on unselling it to the retailer before my return period expires.
Thanks for this review! My experience is that the novelty of switchable accessories wears off really quickly. Who has the patience to constantly change accessories to get basic functionality from a camera anymore? Iphone. Gimbal. done!
True, any modern smartphone and gimbal would be more practical, and probably higher quality too. Samsung S9 has a pretty great adjustable depth of field. This device shoots a depth of field that keeps almost everything is in focus, regardless of the focal point. Its really distracting but makes it easy to shoot public events and scenery.
blacknester A pixel is not half the price of an iPhone! Are you insane?? This comment section is stupid. This product may not be perfect, but it’s pretty damn good and at a very low price, and there’s nothing like it on the market. So calm the fuck down.
Something I noticed, you were talking about the adapter pocking through the hole when connected the camera in the case. You can turn the adapter around so it faces the other way, that's why there's a little cut out there. So you just pull it off, flip it around, reattach it, and you're good to go. You're right about it not taking the control wheel or wireless adapter...that's a bummer.
Thank you so much for demonstrating the camera's menu and options! I picked one of these up yesterday from my local Costco (they had a deal: the camera + the expansion kit for $430 CAD) and could not for the life of me figure out how to operate the menu. Thanks to you I was able to configure the camera to my liking, and hopefully I will be able to create some great videos with it!
2 years later and I have both the Pocket 1 and the Pocket 2, and I love them both. Each has its strengths and is better at some thangs than the other. I mostly prefer the 26mm of the Pocket 1, and much prefer the Pocket 1 Controller Wheel to the Joystick of the Pocket 2 so I have two of them. Love the Extension Pole, and the charging cases. The one thing that DJI has never sold and always should have, is a Z axis stabilizer. Many of them on eBay don’t work very well, but the ones made by Scotty Makes Stuff are fantastic and really make a big difference.
One of the best reviews on YT. As usual. Thanks for sharing. Would be interested to know how many viewers watched the full vid. Great concept splitting it and tone is good in the last section. Down playing that last bit is a good idea for sure... dont want everyone to know all that cool stuff ;) :0) Would be interested in an update vid and if you use this device regularly and what settings. Looks like you have decent frame rates dialled in. Lots of longevity in this video wise. DJI will no doubt be updating stuff and aftermarket gear will be coming out for years to come! Good luck :)
One of the best reviews, It covers everything that I wanted to know about the DJI Pocket, Thanks for the time and effort. PS: You have wonderful voice.
That's what I thought, it looks like a pretty fun device but there's bound to be a future version with most of the "accessories" included in the device. Might as well just wait for that one
Rushing it out in time to make it under the Xmas tree most likely. It's the best time of year to get people with too much money and a tight rein on the purse to spend a bit too much money for the latest thing.
Over the last 40 years or so, using the consumer as Beta tester has worked splendidly for Microsoft when releasing new versions of its software. After all, it's a great way to use 50 thousand people to actually *pay* for the privilege of debugging their stuff. Very smart, Bill
@@joojoojeejee6058 Is there a compact stabilizer with a 4th axis on the market? Surely they'd add a 4th axis, if it made sense. I think the compromise here is a one-handed extremely portable point-and-shoot option. If you want a 4th axis, it seems there's a bunch of two handed monstrosities that, I'm sure, blow this guy out of the water on quality.
@Zero Cool Yeah I don't know whether or not 4th axis is feasible, but electronic vertical stabilization might be. The newest GoPro does a pretty good job in this regard?
@@onemanshow4116 There is a 3D-printed vertical stabilizer available for Osmo Pocket. It's compact in a sense that it's still smaller and lighter than a mirrorless system but it's hardly pocketable anymore.
I picked up one of these not long after launch and wanted to add a few items of note from my own experience for anyone who might be looking at this review for a buying decision: - The phone connector/adapter can be attached backwards, so that the body/handle of the camera protects the connector and so that it isn't sticking out of the case. - Part of the reason why I wanted this camera was so I could do panning time-lapse closeup shots as I do detailed work, but the first step the camera does when it starts recording the time-lapse is reset the focus. In other words, you can have everything set up and set at the focus you want, but it will refocus too far away to work for what I want. I think I'm a firmware version behind, so maybe this has been fixed since, but I expect my use case is pretty niche, so I don't expect it is.
I think we've had similar experiences with this, I got mine in Jan and was disappointed, I finally got the expansion kit and it turned up broken.I sent it to them and it came back smashed to pieces thanks to UPS. finally after updates and getting extra parts I'm quite happy with it. Also exposing dark is a good feature as you don't clip the sky and can have an image with a greater range.
Was thinking the same thing. The horizon and corners were the smoothest I had seen in the entire video. Course he was bouncing up and down (but that is how he walks, each step he probably goes up and down 2 to 3 inches or so and when the camera is locked on the horizon the effect makes him look like a FPS game. But from a gimbal standpoint it was dead on with the horizon IMHO)
Hey Techmoan, I appreciate the reviews a few months into owning a product, it means you've taken the time required to live with something for a while before you comment on it. To me, this means that your reviews are more useful as you will generally discover the really, little annoying to live with things about a product. Keep doing what you do.
New to your channel and already consumed a fair amount. I hope that the producers of channel 5 The Gadget Show are watching, you would fit in there better than the current shower of presenters, all coming at it from a “youthful” angle ( your a bit like the older dude on there (John???). I prefer your sense of humour though and direct style. Well done and thankyou, oh and you’ve got a cool name ! Matt
Thank you so much for this update, I pre ordered it from DJI, but after the first early reviews I cancelled my order, and decided my Hero 7 would suffice. I am blown away that all the bad points about it have now been resolved, mine comes on Tuesday , and I have already ordered a clip that goes on the bottom, that makes it perfectly flat and has a tripod mount underneath, so I can use all my GP mounts too, £11 amazon :-)
I'M BACK, and you're the best, worth the wait. Not sure what or who this is for, a walking vlogger? This cam is confusing and too ''fiddly'' as you'd say. I'll stick to my GoPro's. I know you're not a fan, but they work where water is concerned thats for sure. WISH, I could just find a outstanding spy style camera, versus all the junk to vlog with.
Good review, Matt. Kept thinking they came to market a little early, seeing how they keep updating the firmware and adding to the accessories. It's a great concept, but needed further development before it's market release.
That’s a great idea. Giving the item 4-6 months so updates can take place and get the full review nvm the views at first but when people learn you’re doing genuine reviews and giving it time to find its stride the views will definitely come.
I like your content and longer form videos. I appreciate the in depth detail. Try not to be so self aware as people who watch your videos are not as concerned by the slight imperfections that you are. I think that you are spot on with this three month review as opposed to an initial review. It invites a more in depth and nuanced review.
The solution to all the problems you mentioned is a Removu K1. Everything you mentioned that came out as an upgrade or plug-in option is out-of-the-box on the K1. It even has an optical zoom and removable batteries. Wifi, mic input, wider angle lens and a joystick to pan and tilt is built in.
I don't get why panorama modes are still a selling point. If you do panoramas with camera built-in modes it's usually always disappointing for one reason or other. I always use Hugin, which is a free desktop software package, and which has plenty of bells and whistles for finetuning the results - not significantly more difficult to use, either.
Interesting review. I waited for a while before I bought mine as it allowed more accessories to become available. The control wheel is very good and it also gives you a fast mode change which is handy. I got a Ulanzi base for it so it had a tripod mount and could be charged from either side of the base. No problems getting ND and ND+circular polarising filters. Finding my way around the settings took a while but once you get it, you can do more things with it. The 80 degree view angle very well suits what I used it for, I normally use a Sony FDR AX700 for general purpose video but the are locations and places where its too big or inconvenient to use and it here where the Osmo Pocket fill a very useful gap for me that action cameras did not. The video quality is good enough to mix and match with the AX700 footage and can be processed with much the same post methods. As far as the carry case, I found one on eBay that is designed to have the control wheel fitted and it makes the cameras robust and convenient to carry around in a pocket or carry bag.
The only accessory you need to get good results in this camera is a ND filter and this does not affect portability at all. Of course a device this size will get some compromises, but it does have a great sensor and horizontal stabilization is fenomenal in most cases. It also have d-cine like profile for color grading and boots in 4 seconds. It’s like reviewing a Mini Disc player and complaining about the absence of LP support. You can use this as it is and get really good cinematic results if you are willing to adapt in exchange of portability. It’s the kind of product you just get if you know well all the options in the same niche (and know how awkward and slow to start they are).
The alpaca seems to come with its own gimbal for its head! 🦙 Thanks for the review on this camera. I’ve just started looking at this camera and was hoping you had a review because you’re less hype and far more trustworthy.
I think you'd have to be really picky to not like this camera...the video looks amazing, the controls are cool, the features are unique and the price is fair.
I wish people would stop complaining about the "narrow" field of view! This is meant to be a cinematic camera, NOT a GoPro! Most films are shot with 35-50mm lenses... this is a 26mm equivalent, which is actually quite wide! I'm GLAD they didn't go wider, as it would make the camera look like a GoPro... I already HAVE a GoPro with great stabilization... I DON'T need another one!
My issues are - Pump Focusing, You still get Bounce when walking and face tracking and object track is poor. My Sony action cam as well as my Sony HandyCams seem to do a much better jobe in all respects. Only issue with the SONYs, it is up to me to hold the horizontal/horizon on a shot. The Osmo is also to heave to be hangin and walking around with it on a selfie stick for any amount of time.
I'd want the thumb wheel to still work and have an adapter on the end for your phone too! That wheel would still be smoother than using pinch n zoom on your screen!
It seems when they designed this they had to keep adding options Everytime they thought of something it should have on it. Maybe they should make a version mk2 or mk3 and have these things added onto it. If people worry about it becoming too big, I guess they could keep it small if it just had a digital camera lens and nothing else. I will never buy one of these version 1 models. Great review though. This was my 2nd time watching it, I came back for some info. Thank you.
Thank you so much for the review. It was pretty clear the camera hunting for focus was a source of issue for you. If you can stop the aperture right down say f8, this will give you a much greater focus plane and reduce the focus hunting. Also if you have a wide lens 24mm or wider will also help as wide lens tend to 'get everything in focus'. I hope this helps!
I've been looking for something EXACTLY like this! I like the narrower field of view when compared to a GoPro or such, no fisheye effect. I would like for it to clip into my "pocket" for shooting vid while I walk around without drawing too much attention.
Man oh man, am I only one who enjoys this camera? I think it's a good challenge to try and work within your limitations sometimes. It makes you think about what you can/can't do. I've really enjoyed it so far. I'm currently trying to sell stock footage made with it while working on my own family stuff. I think I would be worse off if I was given the perfect machine right off of the bat. This is just my opinion though
These days you’re lucky if the first firmware release allows you to upgrade to the next version (for you it seemed it almost didn’t), let alone does anything useful! Edit: Does the usb mic perhaps require a firmware update to support it? Therefore why, when you tested, a generic one didn’t work? Some chance I suppose at those prices, but it could be the case. Yep, designed to make you buy the accessories. Perhaps it’s called the pocket, not because you can put it in a pocket, but instead because it will leave a hole in them?
A light bulb over my head came on when you talked about being an "out of breath asthmatic". I had always wondered if you were perpetually congested or just what. Keep up the great work!! 👍
I'm pretty sure my P20 Pro phone can do everything that this product can do, panaromic shots, the software stabilization is as good as your examples, external mic. Ok it can't do the face tracking swivel bit though but I wouldn't pay over 300 for just that. My phone can do 120 FPS in full HD. I just don't get why someone would want this? Maybe I'm missing something, not trying to be rude, great video btw
I have an Osmo Pocket and in reference to the car clip at 15 minutes in, I've mounted mine to my dogs and it was perfectly stable, while singing side to side on their harnesses. I know its not a car, but I am interested to see if it will vibrate the way you had it because I've also used it on rides at amusement parks and didn't have any of those vibration issues either. Though I was holding the camera too. Personally, I don't think I would mount it on anything as I would be too afraid of breaking the gimble by absentmindedly moving around.
I don't agree with your comment that a joystick would have been better than a scrollwheel. In many cases, you are only going to scroll up/down or sideways. It's very difficult to do properly with a four-directional joystick, so the DJI solution is actually well thought about and works very well... I agree however that the standard case should be compatible with the Osmo Pocket with the wheel attached, or even that the wheel should have been part of the device...
Great vid, I too was an early customer, totally agreed with everything you said especially about a thumb stick built it etc. Field of view yes limited will be trying a wide angle adaptor but as is pairs up nicely with a gopro. We’ll see what V2 brings😎
Regarding the distance, it feels like it's designed for vlogging. Vlogger in focus with the area they're in very much a background element that isn't supposed to be paid attention to unless they turn the camera to it.
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Hello Techmoan. I just have to tell you that your TH-cam channel is total crap!!
@@AnonymousFrogNG interesting. Let us have, say, five specific criticisms
Great video Mat! Always happy to see a new one from you, you should have had a job in TV or radio! Sorry to hear the commenters have been getting you down.With all the crazy stuff happening politically right now, your videos are a much appreciated break from the insanity, thanks for doing what you do!
Maybe the camera module was designed for use in a drone - and has the FOV to go with that?
Anyway, it seems it's a bit overpriced for what it does.
Try updating your DJI Osmo Pocket, you are using a old software version!! :-)
Thank you for a proper review and not rushing for views.
SimulationKris I’m just glad it’s not an April Fools shitpost.
Maybe I’m getting old, but I just find those irritating these days.
@@ShesSometimesDoubleChocolate. idk maybe. I'm just sick of lighting up at the notification for an extra long video from a channel I really like, only to remember it''s the 1st of April so it's probably 30 minutes of BS non-content.
@@Colddirector Its only once a year lol
Yes, it is a good review, but this camera still does not sound very attractive to me. Over 300€ for the camera and afterwards they charge you the price for the camera again until you have all the accessories.
@@terriplays1726 Probably worth waiting for the 2nd generation model with more features, plus it's most likely to be more competitively priced!
Sticking until the end for 19 minutes of uninteresting menu navigation narrated by Techmoan?
HELL YES!
I always enjoy the muppet at the end!
Yes, we should petition for the muppets getting their own dedicated show/channel
James May mode is the best!
Ahh, thank you for doing a REAL review! So many reviews are just first impressions without actual experience. I appreciate the time and effort put into this 👍
FYI When taking Panoramas on the DJI Osmo Pocket (and many other DJI Products) the pano image saved to the phone is only a fraction of the size of the source files saved on the CD card. You can download the pano source images from the SD card and stitch them together on a PC using the DJI Media Maker app provided by DJI (just google it for a link) or there are 3rd party tools that will let you create a full resolution panoramic shot from those same files. Also the phone adapter can be reversed so the end that plugs into the phone is stored closer to the camera body during storage. Though you should know this because you get a warning that the plug and wifi adapter can't be connected at the same time. This can is resolved by inserting the phone plug adapter the opposite way.
Thanks for commenting this, if you're just posting a pano to the web then the low res is probably fine but it is nice to have access to the full resolution images, same for timelapses and motionlapses.
Fen totally agree. I can post the phone saves to social media but if I want to print something (ended up printing many labor from my older Osmo Plus) I’ll refer to the source files.
Fantastic long-term review. Thank you for taking the time to post this. I’m fascinated by the *idea* of this device, but I do think it was rushed to market in an unfinished state. I do hope for a second generation version that is a complete product. Some things I would look for, and would expect to pay a *little* more money for, would include:
1. Wider angle lens.
2. Inbuilt wireless.
3. External audio support (mic port, support for wireless mic/earbud monitor)
4. “Log” low-contrast, low-saturation video output for color grading.
5. Inbuilt jog wheel or thumb pad for panning/tilting.
6. Forego the direct physical connection to the phone. There should be no need for this in 2019. We have NFC, Bluetooth, WiFi which should all be sufficient for use without direct port connections.
7. Ease way back on the accessories. Make this thing work out of the box really well.
8. Tripod mount at the base.
We need more long term reviews like these. It is actually informative and useful. Thank you.
The Alpaca/Llama looks like he's having fun with you taking him for a walk lol
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@@mimimartinez8334 yes?
@@kylesimonsen ?
For creating high res panoramic images Microsoft ICE (Image Composite Editor) is a really good free tool for Windows.
All you need to do is take a bunch of overlapping pictures at the same exposure, throw them all into ICE and the application will automatically find out what picture goes where. It takes a bit of time to process, especially if you have a lot of images. You can then select between several different projections to get something that looks right for the image you took and crop out a finished image that will have a really high resolution.
I feel like this product is the result of a lot of compromise and internal struggle at DJI over what their next product should be, resulting in a device that isn't great at any of it's potential use cases.
Out of the box it's too wide to be used purely as a camera attachment for your phone but lacks even the most basic physical controls needed for solo operation. It has a 4k sensor and a lot of prosumer friendly functionality, but lacks an external microphone port and tripod mounting. They have a litany of aftermarket accessories but other than the controller attachment they're all too expensive for how simple and restricted they are, leaving them out priced and sometimes out featured by other companies' accessories.
lol wtf? DJI invented and standardized many of the key consumer quadcopter technologies. Everyone else is copying them. nobody else makes better drones for this market segment. They have many products in production, this is just one for a niche market. @@aserta
I really appreciate this video. I purchased the camera 28 days ago and haven't had much luck producing anything of value. I kept it because I had hoped it was my inexperience, not the unit. This video has sold me on unselling it to the retailer before my return period expires.
This man needs to review every tech item out there
Techmoan: a pan is a left to right (or vice versa) camera movement. Up and down is a tilt. I know you will want to know this! Great video as usual.
This was a proper review, no flash crap, just proper! Good job Sir.
Thanks for this review! My experience is that the novelty of switchable accessories wears off really quickly. Who has the patience to constantly change accessories to get basic functionality from a camera anymore? Iphone. Gimbal. done!
True, any modern smartphone and gimbal would be more practical, and probably higher quality too. Samsung S9 has a pretty great adjustable depth of field. This device shoots a depth of field that keeps almost everything is in focus, regardless of the focal point. Its really distracting but makes it easy to shoot public events and scenery.
blacknester A pixel is not half the price of an iPhone! Are you insane?? This comment section is stupid. This product may not be perfect, but it’s pretty damn good and at a very low price, and there’s nothing like it on the market. So calm the fuck down.
blacknester What? I can buy XS Max (even more expensive than normal XS) for around 1000$
Something I noticed, you were talking about the adapter pocking through the hole when connected the camera in the case. You can turn the adapter around so it faces the other way, that's why there's a little cut out there. So you just pull it off, flip it around, reattach it, and you're good to go. You're right about it not taking the control wheel or wireless adapter...that's a bummer.
yeah when you can't figure out something as simple as that makes you wonder about everything else the moron says.
i'd watch this just for the llamas/alpacas :P Thanks for the thorough review, your vids never dissapoint!!
I have to say, I adore the dark, narrow, fluid video you're showing from the camera! I wouldn't mind shooting a short film on this.
Thank you so much for demonstrating the camera's menu and options! I picked one of these up yesterday from my local Costco (they had a deal: the camera + the expansion kit for $430 CAD) and could not for the life of me figure out how to operate the menu. Thanks to you I was able to configure the camera to my liking, and hopefully I will be able to create some great videos with it!
2 years later and I have both the Pocket 1 and the Pocket 2, and I love them both. Each has its strengths and is better at some thangs than the other. I mostly prefer the 26mm of the Pocket 1, and much prefer the Pocket 1 Controller Wheel to the Joystick of the Pocket 2 so I have two of them. Love the Extension Pole, and the charging cases. The one thing that DJI has never sold and always should have, is a Z axis stabilizer. Many of them on eBay don’t work very well, but the ones made by Scotty Makes Stuff are fantastic and really make a big difference.
Thank you for waiting to post this review. I appreciate your thoughtful content production.
Techmoan going out wearing a cap to hide from the paparazzi! :) Great review, too! Nice shots.
One of the best reviews on YT. As usual. Thanks for sharing. Would be interested to know how many viewers watched the full vid. Great concept splitting it and tone is good in the last section. Down playing that last bit is a good idea for sure... dont want everyone to know all that cool stuff ;) :0) Would be interested in an update vid and if you use this device regularly and what settings. Looks like you have decent frame rates dialled in. Lots of longevity in this video wise. DJI will no doubt be updating stuff and aftermarket gear will be coming out for years to come! Good luck :)
A skillful Alpaca rider I see, his talents have no end!
Finally, a honest and non-biased review. You're the best!
Your review was just fine! despite being out of focus a few times, you did great! Thank you for posting.
I saw every single video on TH-cam about the Osmo Pocket, and I missed the one from Techmoan?! No way!
Watching it entirely immediately 😂
One of the best reviews, It covers everything that I wanted to know about the DJI Pocket, Thanks for the time and effort.
PS: You have wonderful voice.
Your videos satisfy my tech curiosity at no expense to myself. I highly enjoy them.
Skip to 34:39 if you wanna know more about those 2 buttons on controller wheel addon .
.. except there's no mention of the function you get by holding down the right hand button.
That sketch with the muppet at the end went on for much longer than usual!
Looks like another manufacturer simply using the public as beta testers ready for the proper version in 12 months time.
That's what I thought, it looks like a pretty fun device but there's bound to be a future version with most of the "accessories" included in the device. Might as well just wait for that one
And get some money while they are at it :).
Rushing it out in time to make it under the Xmas tree most likely. It's the best time of year to get people with too much money and a tight rein on the purse to spend a bit too much money for the latest thing.
Over the last 40 years or so, using the consumer as Beta tester has worked splendidly for Microsoft when releasing new versions of its software. After all, it's a great way to use 50 thousand people to actually *pay* for the privilege of debugging their stuff. Very smart, Bill
Very true, don't want one anyways :-)
Given it's meant to be a stabilised camera that bounce effect is a deal breaker, especially when you consider the price...
I mean... how are they to compensate for vertical movement?
@@onemanshow4116 4-axis gimbal is the answer. And/or additional electronic stabilization.
@@joojoojeejee6058 Is there a compact stabilizer with a 4th axis on the market? Surely they'd add a 4th axis, if it made sense. I think the compromise here is a one-handed extremely portable point-and-shoot option. If you want a 4th axis, it seems there's a bunch of two handed monstrosities that, I'm sure, blow this guy out of the water on quality.
@Zero Cool Yeah I don't know whether or not 4th axis is feasible, but electronic vertical stabilization might be. The newest GoPro does a pretty good job in this regard?
@@onemanshow4116
There is a 3D-printed vertical stabilizer available for Osmo Pocket. It's compact in a sense that it's still smaller and lighter than a mirrorless system but it's hardly pocketable anymore.
I picked up one of these not long after launch and wanted to add a few items of note from my own experience for anyone who might be looking at this review for a buying decision:
- The phone connector/adapter can be attached backwards, so that the body/handle of the camera protects the connector and so that it isn't sticking out of the case.
- Part of the reason why I wanted this camera was so I could do panning time-lapse closeup shots as I do detailed work, but the first step the camera does when it starts recording the time-lapse is reset the focus. In other words, you can have everything set up and set at the focus you want, but it will refocus too far away to work for what I want. I think I'm a firmware version behind, so maybe this has been fixed since, but I expect my use case is pretty niche, so I don't expect it is.
I think we've had similar experiences with this, I got mine in Jan and was disappointed, I finally got the expansion kit and it turned up broken.I sent it to them and it came back smashed to pieces thanks to UPS. finally after updates and getting extra parts I'm quite happy with it.
Also exposing dark is a good feature as you don't clip the sky and can have an image with a greater range.
Thanks for a great review. You just saved me £350 by sticking with my original Osmo, which after all the add ons is probably not that much bigger
That December video looks like some sort of first person video game. Quite nice.
Actually when you walked with the selfie stick from 11:52, the background didn't look shakey at all. It all looked very smooth in my opinion.
Was thinking the same thing. The horizon and corners were the smoothest I had seen in the entire video. Course he was bouncing up and down (but that is how he walks, each step he probably goes up and down 2 to 3 inches or so and when the camera is locked on the horizon the effect makes him look like a FPS game. But from a gimbal standpoint it was dead on with the horizon IMHO)
Hey Techmoan,
I appreciate the reviews a few months into owning a product, it means you've taken the time required to live with something for a while before you comment on it. To me, this means that your reviews are more useful as you will generally discover the really, little annoying to live with things about a product. Keep doing what you do.
Hello, I just wanted to say you're greatly appreciated by us. Keep on keeping on!
PS: love your muppets!
New to your channel and already consumed a fair amount. I hope that the producers of channel 5 The Gadget Show are watching, you would fit in there better than the current shower of presenters, all coming at it from a “youthful” angle ( your a bit like the older dude on there (John???). I prefer your sense of humour though and direct style. Well done and thankyou, oh and you’ve got a cool name ! Matt
Thank you so much for this update, I pre ordered it from DJI, but after the first early reviews I cancelled my order, and decided my Hero 7 would suffice. I am blown away that all the bad points about it have now been resolved, mine comes on Tuesday , and I have already ordered a clip that goes on the bottom, that makes it perfectly flat and has a tripod mount underneath, so I can use all my GP mounts too, £11 amazon :-)
I'M BACK, and you're the best, worth the wait. Not sure what or who this is for, a walking vlogger? This cam is confusing and too ''fiddly'' as you'd say. I'll stick to my GoPro's. I know you're not a fan, but they work where water is concerned thats for sure. WISH, I could just find a outstanding spy style camera, versus all the junk to vlog with.
It seems like the point of this product is to sell accessories, also the jank is giving me a kickstarter vibe.
This seems to be a kludgy camera and then you have to carry around even more kludge to make it just modestly functional.
I love when my function is modest. Hate when my functions are too braggy or promiscuous
DJI pocket 2 has fixed most of these concerns.
Nice to have found your channel again, i remember i bought my dashcam years ago and its mainly of your review. Subscribed.
Good review, Matt. Kept thinking they came to market a little early, seeing how they keep updating the firmware and adding to the accessories. It's a great concept, but needed further development before it's market release.
That’s a great idea. Giving the item 4-6 months so updates can take place and get the full review nvm the views at first but when people learn you’re doing genuine reviews and giving it time to find its stride the views will definitely come.
I like your content and longer form videos. I appreciate the in depth detail. Try not to be so self aware as people who watch your videos are not as concerned by the slight imperfections that you are. I think that you are spot on with this three month review as opposed to an initial review. It invites a more in depth and nuanced review.
The solution to all the problems you mentioned is a Removu K1. Everything you mentioned that came out as an upgrade or plug-in option is out-of-the-box on the K1. It even has an optical zoom and removable batteries. Wifi, mic input, wider angle lens and a joystick to pan and tilt is built in.
First five minutes told me to watch complete video. THANKS FOR SUCH WONDERFUL INFO.. I'm in love with my osmo pocket again..
Very thorough - I really enjoyed this review! 👍🏻
I don't get why panorama modes are still a selling point. If you do panoramas with camera built-in modes it's usually always disappointing for one reason or other. I always use Hugin, which is a free desktop software package, and which has plenty of bells and whistles for finetuning the results - not significantly more difficult to use, either.
Interesting review. I waited for a while before I bought mine as it allowed more accessories to become available. The control wheel is very good and it also gives you a fast mode change which is handy. I got a Ulanzi base for it so it had a tripod mount and could be charged from either side of the base. No problems getting ND and ND+circular polarising filters. Finding my way around the settings took a while but once you get it, you can do more things with it. The 80 degree view angle very well suits what I used it for, I normally use a Sony FDR AX700 for general purpose video but the are locations and places where its too big or inconvenient to use and it here where the Osmo Pocket fill a very useful gap for me that action cameras did not. The video quality is good enough to mix and match with the AX700 footage and can be processed with much the same post methods. As far as the carry case, I found one on eBay that is designed to have the control wheel fitted and it makes the cameras robust and convenient to carry around in a pocket or carry bag.
The only accessory you need to get good results in this camera is a ND filter and this does not affect portability at all. Of course a device this size will get some compromises, but it does have a great sensor and horizontal stabilization is fenomenal in most cases. It also have d-cine like profile for color grading and boots in 4 seconds.
It’s like reviewing a Mini Disc player and complaining about the absence of LP support.
You can use this as it is and get really good cinematic results if you are willing to adapt in exchange of portability. It’s the kind of product you just get if you know well all the options in the same niche (and know how awkward and slow to start they are).
yeah strange how 50 other reviewers get excellent footage from it but this ancient tech dude can't. Says a lot about his knowledge level.
The alpaca seems to come with its own gimbal for its head! 🦙 Thanks for the review on this camera. I’ve just started looking at this camera and was hoping you had a review because you’re less hype and far more trustworthy.
Mat I will never buy one. I love your videos so I watched all the menu stuff at the end hehe.
What an excellent review. Really above and beyond.
Smoothest alpaca footage I've ever seen.
I think you'd have to be really picky to not like this camera...the video looks amazing, the controls are cool, the features are unique and the price is fair.
I clicked for the camera, but stayed for the llamas.
Really thoughtfully structured and paced video. Thank you Techmoan.
That was great review..
Thank you for taking the time to acctually go through all that
I wish people would stop complaining about the "narrow" field of view! This is meant to be a cinematic camera, NOT a GoPro! Most films are shot with 35-50mm lenses... this is a 26mm equivalent, which is actually quite wide! I'm GLAD they didn't go wider, as it would make the camera look like a GoPro... I already HAVE a GoPro with great stabilization... I DON'T need another one!
Love the pictures of our great city.
The video stabilization looks like a First person videogame camera
Fallout 4 lol
Lol that's what I was gonna say. I kinda want one now for clay shooting videos for just that reason.
Should have a setting to 'turn off bobbing' 🤔
My issues are - Pump Focusing, You still get Bounce when walking and face tracking and object track is poor. My Sony action cam as well as my Sony HandyCams seem to do a much better jobe in all respects. Only issue with the SONYs, it is up to me to hold the horizontal/horizon on a shot. The Osmo is also to heave to be hangin and walking around with it on a selfie stick for any amount of time.
Can I suggest a review of a stabiliser gimbal for cell phones.?
He has already done one if those. The Uoplay Gimbal
I love camera reviews from you!
WORLDS COLLIDED FOR ME WITH THIS ONE. I ALSO WATCH A FEW NARROWBOAT TH-camRS AND HERE IS MY TECH GUY HAVING VIDS OF THE CANALS.
I like my Osmo Pocket - I didn't see an advantage worth upgrading to the Pocket 2. Good show!
I'd want the thumb wheel to still work and have an adapter on the end for your phone too! That wheel would still be smoother than using pinch n zoom on your screen!
I''ll watch any video with a llama in the thumbnail.
It is an alpaca - we have twenty-one of them. :)
@@NintendoDude888 they are pretty hardy and easy to look after - keep them fed and watered well
Winamp
Your review was excellent, thank You.
I appreciate your knowledge I learned so much.
It seems when they designed this they had to keep adding options Everytime they thought of something it should have on it. Maybe they should make a version mk2 or mk3 and have these things added onto it. If people worry about it becoming too big, I guess they could keep it small if it just had a digital camera lens and nothing else. I will never buy one of these version 1 models.
Great review though. This was my 2nd time watching it, I came back for some info. Thank you.
If anything, a great advert for Liverpool! I want to go!
AuntieFan - The river Mersey runs through Liverpool, if it went any slower it’d get mugged.
Cheers Matt. I am looking for one of these type of cameras, and I love your thoughts on it.
Decent review and yeah it is only a pocket cam afterall
Thank you so much for the review. It was pretty clear the camera hunting for focus was a source of issue for you. If you can stop the aperture right down say f8, this will give you a much greater focus plane and reduce the focus hunting. Also if you have a wide lens 24mm or wider will also help as wide lens tend to 'get everything in focus'. I hope this helps!
Well, my brain is now butter. The footage at the start was like a video game with head-bob turned on with how smooth it was!
every video that i watch makes me want this, but also makes me realise that two years after release, i have to wait for v2 which must be close
Great review very professional and honest 🖒 would love to see u can review insta360. GoPro 8 9 lols i already know with small sensor
Apart from the wind noise, that mic is actually pretty good. This thing is rather impressive to me , considering the size.
I've been looking for something EXACTLY like this! I like the narrower field of view when compared to a GoPro or such, no fisheye effect. I would like for it to clip into my "pocket" for shooting vid while I walk around without drawing too much attention.
I love my osmo pocket, I have two kids and I wanted to just have a camera in my pocket to record my kids on vacations. It works great.
Man oh man, am I only one who enjoys this camera? I think it's a good challenge to try and work within your limitations sometimes. It makes you think about what you can/can't do. I've really enjoyed it so far. I'm currently trying to sell stock footage made with it while working on my own family stuff. I think I would be worse off if I was given the perfect machine right off of the bat.
This is just my opinion though
These days you’re lucky if the first firmware release allows you to upgrade to the next version (for you it seemed it almost didn’t), let alone does anything useful!
Edit: Does the usb mic perhaps require a firmware update to support it? Therefore why, when you tested, a generic one didn’t work? Some chance I suppose at those prices, but it could be the case.
Yep, designed to make you buy the accessories. Perhaps it’s called the pocket, not because you can put it in a pocket, but instead because it will leave a hole in them?
I have an Osmo+ with a z axis, and I love it
I enjoyed watching this video, thanks
That pic of Techmoan... Looks like he's part of a CIA rendition team.
Thank you for your excellent video review, I really appreciate your honesty!
A light bulb over my head came on when you talked about being an "out of breath asthmatic". I had always wondered if you were perpetually congested or just what. Keep up the great work!! 👍
There was a video several years ago where he discussed some conditions. I forget if it was a separate video or encapsulated in a review type.
I'm pretty sure my P20 Pro phone can do everything that this product can do, panaromic shots, the software stabilization is as good as your examples, external mic. Ok it can't do the face tracking swivel bit though but I wouldn't pay over 300 for just that. My phone can do 120 FPS in full HD. I just don't get why someone would want this? Maybe I'm missing something, not trying to be rude, great video btw
I have an Osmo Pocket and in reference to the car clip at 15 minutes in, I've mounted mine to my dogs and it was perfectly stable, while singing side to side on their harnesses. I know its not a car, but I am interested to see if it will vibrate the way you had it because I've also used it on rides at amusement parks and didn't have any of those vibration issues either. Though I was holding the camera too. Personally, I don't think I would mount it on anything as I would be too afraid of breaking the gimble by absentmindedly moving around.
I don't agree with your comment that a joystick would have been better than a scrollwheel. In many cases, you are only going to scroll up/down or sideways. It's very difficult to do properly with a four-directional joystick, so the DJI solution is actually well thought about and works very well...
I agree however that the standard case should be compatible with the Osmo Pocket with the wheel attached, or even that the wheel should have been part of the device...
Nice camera and a nice review. I prefer the longer term ownership reviews :)
Great vid, I too was an early customer, totally agreed with everything you said especially about a thumb stick built it etc. Field of view yes limited will be trying a wide angle adaptor but as is pairs up nicely with a gopro.
We’ll see what V2 brings😎
Regarding the distance, it feels like it's designed for vlogging. Vlogger in focus with the area they're in very much a background element that isn't supposed to be paid attention to unless they turn the camera to it.
The narrow field of view was the deal breaker for me. Hoping for a version 2 with improvements 👍