@@KingDIEAHBEATUS some people are so ignorant. I wish these donkeys would try to put themselves in David Benoit’s shoes. Nobody knows the suffering this kid has endured.
That's funny cause when he said the name chris Benoit jr I made the same noise corny did and at the same exact time..that shit was like a gut punch 😂😂😂
well... if every one knows he's Benoit's kid, and there's no hiding it, and the name Chris Benoit Jr. is out; i don't see why he couldn't use some variation on his mother's name/stage name/maiden name or his brother to honor the victims. David Nancy, or David 'Woman' Benoit. Or David Daniel. something... Anything but Chris.. i can't believe he even entertained the idea of using his dad's name. Just thinking of them almost celebrating the name of a killer while ignoring the victims is honestly irritating to me. Just let him wrestle. Be upfront about it. and try to down play his relationship to his father as much as possible.
Right? I wasn’t sure how Jim was going to respond and am glad even he said “oooh”. The fact is it would be very difficult and it’s not David’s fault at all.
@Defiant To The Death David Benoit's masked ring name would be "Pegasus Kid III" because there was already a Pegasus Kid II: Finn Balor AKA Prince Devitt. Balor wrestled as the second Pegasus Kid in Japan before the first Pegasus Kid, Chris Benoit, did the unthinkable later on in 2007.
Interesting note: I read or heard somewhere - might have been Brother Bruce - that WWF/E briefly considered bringing OJ in right after the acquittal. If that's true, I completely agree with you, sadly.
@@thefranchise2356 But you said it yourself: acquittal. We all are reasonably sure O.J. did it, but according to the criminal justice system he is not guilty. Benoit condemned and sentenced himself.
Which also explains why there was footage from his Ford Bronco chase shown at Wrestlemania 11 or 12 during the street fight with Roddy Piper and Goldust.
It's not just the chair shots though. I'm not why this was book but, i saw a match. When Chris does the flying headbutt. The guy taking the headbutt uses a championship belt as shield. So Benoit goes face first into the title. I remember looking at my grandfather and saying "head splitter or splitting headache?"
He's not. But if you go out of your way to draw attention like he would be doing....The dude came across as a really really really creepy guy, socially awkward. The fact nobody wants to interview him and he went and contacted Chris to interview....Again he's not being punished, he wasn't a wrestler who got fired for what his dad did. But it does feel like he's trying to bank on what happened in some way shape or form.
I agree, somewhat. I LOVED Chris Benoit, but that name is the most tainted in wrestling history. It's not David's fault, and he can still pursue a wrestling career, but if he insists on going under Benoit, and fails because of it, that's on him. Unfortunately for him, he's going to have to make it on his own merits, when other children of Hall of Fame talents get a huge boost by name and training.
It's not so much a punishment as it is an acknowledgement that using his dad's name is a collosally bad idea. Wrestling is based off perception and the Benoit name is tainted in most circles.
I've been saying wild Pegasus Jr would be a great name it accomplishes the same thing he wants to do but doesn't carry the stigma and eventually if he's really a great wrestler like Jim said do the storyline where he's trying to redeem the benoit name I think if he did it gradually and eased people into it he could be a great wrestler using the name David benoit Chris benoit jr is to much though
Agreed. Chris Benoit Jr. is way too much. Using Benoit's family name or a variation on one of Chris Benoit's nicknames, why not but this ring name would do him great disservice, imo.
Thought the same thing. Pegasus Kid II or whatever if he just really wants to try and honor his father in the ring. Really tricky on that. I don't know, if Chris Benoit were my Dad, I'd hate his fucking guts.
I loved Benoit. He was my absolute favorite wrestler since his days in the 4 Horsemen. However, though his career was amazing, I cannot even think of him without the tragedy entering my mind. David should just make a name for himself and leave his father out of it.
but you also have to realize that, he does want to carry on his Father's legacy, although I do get what you're saying, it's not easy either way. If he were to wrestle with his father's name or his own name because in the back of his mind he'll struggle with that. However, I do get what you're saying though
@@scorps9259 Yeah, I don’t know what I was smoking what I said this. What I meant was that Benoit wasn’t always like the way he was. Benoit should definitely be at fault for the stuff he did.
You can't go on one woman's opinion, William Regales wife, who cares? What about Vicky Guerrero? Did she say the same thing about him? Look, Benoit was pushed to do an angle with his future wife, Woman', that he was initially against. Think about that, Chris Benoit did not want to do the Kevin Sullivan 'Woman' angle, he was worried about the implications that kind of story would have on his kids. Fuck Regal's wife. Only her opinion matters?
TBH I think that no matter what name he uses, the stigma of being Benoit's son is still always going to greatly limit his opportunities in wrestling. It's not fair, but it is what it is. IMHO he would probably be better off pursuing something else.
@@wwekane2468 Why not? It certainly didn't hurt Rey Mysterio Jr, Chavo Guerrero Jr. Bob Orton Jr. or Dr. Wagner Jr. (just some examples) - on the contrary, they all profitted from the name and legacy.
Agreed. If David wants to be in the business and becomes as good as his father, he should go for it. Cornette's right. The children should NEVER be judged by their parents' actions. Using the name "Chris Benoit Jr", though, is gonna be weird.
@@SMOKETHECONQUEROR if this was ANYONE elses son id agree but with everything that happened he will spend his entire professional career apologizing and talking about "the incident" and no one will care about HIS path. its why he can't use the BENOIT name
"The children should NEVER be judged by their parents actions". Unfortunately, that's not the way life goes in the real world, let alone the wrestling business... Do you honestly think Jimmy Snuka's actions had no impact on Tamina's career?
@@juicyfruit6311 yeah any new Von Erich family member is gonna have it fuckin rough both in the dark side of it and the expectation of their in ring work
You can tell by Jim’s tone of voice that he has a lot of empathy for David and what he has gone through. It really seems he does want David to be successful and not be shadowed by what his father did.
That "ooooh" reaction from Jim is pretty much the same reaction I had. Have to feel for David. He's in a tough situation and it's not because of anything he's done, but rather just who he is. Jim and Brian make some good points here.
It really does have the potential to haunt him in the business for the rest of his life, using the name or not. I wish the best for him, because he did nothing wrong and shouldn't be punished for it.
@@wallyhavoc860 He won't. Some Canadian indie promotion announced they had signed him to "wrestle at least one match", which sounds like they weren't even sure he could do anything. Two years later it still hadn't happened, and I emailed them asking about it. They said "He is no longer with us and is working on a oil rig" 😂 He just wants someone to pay him for being Benoit's son.
It’s barely an issue because David is never going to wrestle. We’ve been hearing this same pipe dream from the kid for years and he’s made zero progress or noticeable effort to make progress, other than talking about it
Trent Gray absolutely. He probably just dreams of the fame and money but has zero motivation to actually train. He is just a tall lanky weird looking kid and he’s got a looong way to go to even have the “look” let alone the talent.
Conspiracy theory take here: What if he is training undercover and it is all hush hush, because it could bring bad publicity before he has even stepped into the ring?
@@The80sWolf_ he was getting trained by Lance Storm years ago. He never completed training and was booking matches himself. Luckily Storm and Jericho intervene and put a halt on it. From there idk what happen.
Oh god imagine a storyline like the Pillman/Austin one at Pillman's house but instead it's Benoit JR locked in his own house with his wife and kid and the babyface tries to make the save. Book it
@@alfiebrown7499 Read my message. I said His Late Father went under The Pegasus Kid when He use to Wrestle under a mask. Put David under a mask and name Him Pegasus Jr.
As he said though you cant keep a secret and fans know who David is and his father so do you try and hide who you are only for fans to troll him or embrace it to try and get over.
The problem is, as Cornette says, it's impossible to keep something like tha a secret now. Whether he uses the Benoit name or not, it will still be known that he's Benoit's son and (unfairly or not) the controversy and stigma associated with that will still be attacked to him.
He looks exactly like his father (if his father was like 5 inches taller and off the juice) so I'm not sure that the name really matters. He's unmistakably Benoit's son.
@@catnip8896 Yea, but he shouldn't honor his father. It's insane that he wants to. His father killed his goddamn mother and baby brother for fucks sake. He should stop being a fucking mark.
thejoeycos It’s his fucking dad. If he wants to wrestle with the name Chris Benoit let him. Nancy wasn’t his mother btw and he wants to honor his old man so leave him be
thejoeycos His dad killed his step mom and half brother but you also have to think about what they’d think. Nancy was in the business herself and loved David as if he were her son as well. Daniel loved his brother and also dreamed to become a wrestler. You’d think that they’d want David to pursue his dreams no matter what and not be held back by something he had nothing to do with. However, with how his dad still killed them, I don’t know.
Here's my take on it. I support David and I think I understand where he's coming from. He knew his father as his hero and an amazing athlete. That within itself cannot be disputed. However, unfortunately and unfairly for David, society will never be able to separate his father's athletic legacy from the way he died. Unfortunately for David, there's no way he himself could ever be able to circumvent or reconstruct his father's legacy throughout any wrestling career he personally seeks out. If anything, it would probably be more detrimental attempting to use his father's name. David was completely innocent in all of this and I understand his grief and frustration. It's unfortunate that who he knew as his father is not the way the world sees him today. I don't think however, a career in wrestling is the best way to cope and I hope and pray he finds peace in a more appropriate and healthier way. ❤️✌️
Wonderfully thoughtfully answer by Jim. The people who hate Jim dont see this side of him. You can tell he's speaking from the heart and not heeling out. And I love Jim heeling out.
I respect David Benoit, I'm sorry, but the kid is delusional if he thinks he is going to pay tribute to his dad by going under the name "Chris Benoit Jr.". In my honest opinion, David Benoit should go under the name "David Toffoloni" as a tribute to his stepmother, Nancy Toffoloni (AKA Nancy Benoit) because Toffoloni was Nancy's maiden name before she got married to Jim Daus, Kevin Sullivan and Chris Benoit himself.
No way anyone major will book "Chris Benoit Jr". The name Benoit carries a LOT of negative stigma at this point. So I'd expect he'd need to find another name. Maybe Arn can give him permission to become yet another Anderson; then he can tag with CW Anderson in the NWA, form a new Wrecking Crew. WWE most likely will not sign David Benoit at all, and Chris Jericho is on record as trying to block David from entering the business, so AEW is out, and likely NJPW as well. So he'd have to try for MLW, ROH, Impact, or NWA or some similar mid tier national.
If he is 28 years-old, as thin as he is, he won’t be big enough until he is 30-31 at a minimum. He should have been weight training and wrestling since he was a teenager if he wanted to go in that direction. The online photos of him and Chris Jericho show that he is tall enough but too thin and unathletic looking.
The name Benoit alone will scare off almost every sponsor, advertiser, and merchandise outlet. No promotion will be able to make much (if any) money off of it.
@@irvinmorales1409 well, what Del Rio did is definitely very bad but is still more tolerable for the sponsors than a double murder even more if a child is one of the victims
Bless his heart David LOOKS so similar to his dad in the face. He doesn’t have the genes for it potentially as his dad may not have either as he was was on the gear from 18 according to that Dark Side Of The Ring
He is clearly on the autism spectrum and wanting to call himself Chris Benoit jr is the childish naivety that comes with it. That whole interview was like talking to a shy 8 year old.
Adolph Hitler Jr.? That would be an AWESOME GIMMICK. His finisher could be called "The Gas Chamber". Garaunteed heat. OJ Simpson Jr.? His finisher could be called, "The Glove That Doesn't Fit."
Even though I still consider Chris to be one of my favorite wrestlers, I agree going by "Chris Benoit Jr" would be a bad idea. And there's no way Vince would let it anywhere near WWE.
To poor David's detriment, he looks a lot like his dad too. No-one could ever look at him and not see Chris. Maybe if he wrestled as a masked luchadore and left all head-based offense out of his move set. (Especially the diving headbutt.)
It’s not just proverbially a “no win” situation for the young man. It’s literally a no win situation. I mean, Like Corny said, You gotta stay away from the name. No matter what the kid does, He’s gonna hear the chants of “your dads a murderer” That’s not what someone would want to hear. Taking the Pegasus Kid name won’t work either. It wouldn’t take long for the smart marks to put two and two together. I’m glad I’m not him! But, If I were, I’d stay as far away as possible
I also think he'd carry the stigma of having to be booked as a face everywhere because having him called by a different name won't matter, and him acting like a heel would drum up his father in the audience's mind. Okay, he could probably be heel after he's 40rs, but he needs to develop a gut, and wear metallic tie dye shirts with the buttons open.
I feel so bad for the kid. I understand why he wants to honor his dad's good parts, but that name brings up horrible memories and immense sadness for what could've been if his father hadn't gone off the deep end.
Yeah but she isn't Jimmy Snuka Jr.... also don't they mostly just refer to her by her first name? I know WWE use to like to do that with all of the women, which is ridiculous and corny.
Names that would work for him and still honor his dad: • Pegasus (or any other Greek mythological character/creature) • Dave Badgers (his father was The Wolverine) • The Crippler (or some variety) It's really sad that his family name has been dragged through the mud. I'd love for this guy to wrestle under his birth name.
Even without the murders, even if Chris Benoit had a wonderful career and retired... going in as Chris Benoit Jr. is an uphill battle because Benoit was good. It’s a lot to live up to but also a lot to avoid the “you only got signed because of your dad” accusations. Should that be how the world is? No. Is it? Yes. On top of that, he wants to use a name that one company won’t even say anymore? He’s choosing it? Yeah. That’s not smart.
Here's a thought, maybe David Benoit could wrestling under a mask and revive the gimmick The Pegasus Kid as a tribute to Chris Benoit (but not bring up his name).
Definitely wouldn't use the name. But other than that pursue your dreams. It's a very different industry now. Still has it's flaws but much more safety focused at least in the top promotions.
He can be Wild Pegasus Jr,. Pegasus II, Chris Angel, Fallen Pegasus, Pegasus Angel, Rabid Pegasus, "Wild" Dave Angel, Ben Ward...Crispin Ward, David Daniels, Ben Chris, Chris BenSon... *I JUST WANT HIM TO SUCCEED IN LIFE* !!!
@Steven Bristol If you didn’t see his Interview, then you have no idea what your talking about. David Benoit has a very good job working on the Oil Rigs in Alberta Canada. He’s a big boy I’m sure he’ll do what he wants to do. He’ll probably sign with AEW. He was persona non grata with WWE because he posted a photo of him with Tony Khan. When WWE saw that he was banned from visiting his friends in the backstage area.
@@Deathpool_04 Not true. I’m a Jr named after my Dad. My first middle name is after my Grandpa on Mom’s side and my second middle name is after a Great Uncle on Dad’s side.
In New Mexico, Native American heel wrestlers used to have to wrestle under a mask when they had shows on the Rez. If they did not, they would have too much legit heat with fans trying to kill them. This was back in the 70's and 80's. I heard this from the late "Rapid" Ricky Romero who was a 70's star in the Southwest. He was the father of The Youngbloods tag team.
3:53 - 4:10 I know this topic isn't funny in the slightest, but I cannot stop laughing at Brian's comparisons and might actually pass out from laughter.
Regardless of how determined or casual David might be about becoming a pro wrestler, him being who he is, the son of Chris Benoit, will allow some doors to open for him quite easily, while others will be even harder to open than they would be for some average joe. He could and definitely will get signed by independents and maybe even AEW without having much experience or dues paid, but to become the face of a company, or sign with WWE will most likely be incredibly difficult. It will be hard for him for sure regardless of what happens in his wrestling career.
If David would like to pay tribute to his dad, he could do so under a mask as the "Pegasus Kid". I would love to see David Benoit debut in AEW, partner with Brian Pillman Jr. & Brock Anderson, all managed by Tully Blanchard.
He could wrestle as ''Chris Benoit'' saying the whole murder thing was a wrestling angle and he actually IS Chris Benoit himself and was just hiding for over 10 years. He didn't age thanks to a healthy smoothie diet or something but just lost his roided up gainz over that time. That would be badass storyline!!
It's sad that people forget that yes Chris was his dad and he did awful deeds, but David also lost his dad , half-brother and mother figure in one swoop. Having to deal with that lose and they way it happened and then having to bear all that weight and burden on his shoulders . He is a survivor of a tradgy that he will never get over what happened that day he shouldn't be punished if he wants to remember the father he knew. Not the monster he was for those couple of days .
I really like how respectful Cornett was. It was really nice of him to say "hey go for it, but..." instead of something like "HOW DARE HE WHAT THE FUCK"
I saw the interview he did with Van Vliet, yeah it's hard to say to someone you can't do this not because you don't want them to do said thing but you know said thing will just break him more.
This is just a boy who loved his dad. It's heartbreaking, regardless of opinions
His other son loved his dad too.
@@Gvvm15 Your point being what?
@@Gvvm15 Really dude. What the fuck is your.point, other than being a smart ass?
I know Benoit is a peice of shit, but comparing him to Adolf Hitler is too much dude. Chill the fuck out a little.
@@KingDIEAHBEATUS some people are so ignorant. I wish these donkeys would try to put themselves in David Benoit’s shoes. Nobody knows the suffering this kid has endured.
When he said in the beginning “he wants to use the name Chris Benoit Jr.” and Jim said “OOOOOOOHHHHHH” I couldn’t help but bust out laughing 😂
Same!!! Oooooooohh!!!😂
I had 2 rewind tht bro
I think we all did!
That's funny cause when he said the name chris Benoit jr I made the same noise corny did and at the same exact time..that shit was like a gut punch 😂😂😂
@@thegametapes two minds think alike 😁
"Chris Benoit Jr."
Don't do it, kid. You'll ruin your career before it even begins.
Exactly
Absolutely.
Yup. He should definitely be able to wrestle if he's good and no one should take that from him but under that name it will never happen.
well... if every one knows he's Benoit's kid, and there's no hiding it, and the name Chris Benoit Jr. is out; i don't see why he couldn't use some variation on his mother's name/stage name/maiden name or his brother to honor the victims. David Nancy, or David 'Woman' Benoit. Or David Daniel. something... Anything but Chris.. i can't believe he even entertained the idea of using his dad's name. Just thinking of them almost celebrating the name of a killer while ignoring the victims is honestly irritating to me. Just let him wrestle. Be upfront about it. and try to down play his relationship to his father as much as possible.
@@mattieonutube273 that's like me meeting Karen's mom while wearing a OJ Simpson Jr Hat lol
When even Jim goes "ooo!" you know it's bad.
Jesus Zamora yup
Good point.
I cringed because I knew what was coming next.
Exactly what I thought lol.
Right? I wasn’t sure how Jim was going to respond and am glad even he said “oooh”. The fact is it would be very difficult and it’s not David’s fault at all.
David Benoit should use his own name not the name "Chris Benoit Jr".
He should train first then worry about that
Really though!
I hoped he would go to Japan and learn. Maybe even start off under a mask so he can avoid the Benoit stigma until he's trained.
lm not sure but maybe wrong, but l dont think chris really raised him, fars the physical stuff, chris benoit was juiced to the gills
@@jvinson thats best way to go, but the sleazy promoters on the bottom rungs would out him to make a buck
He should go under his dad’s masked identity, as Pegasus Kid!
Kid of Pegasus Kid!
@@barlotardy Kid of Pegasus
That would honestly be great especially for a reveal later down the line
David Pegasus
@Defiant To The Death David Benoit's masked ring name would be "Pegasus Kid III" because there was already a Pegasus Kid II: Finn Balor AKA Prince Devitt. Balor wrestled as the second Pegasus Kid in Japan before the first Pegasus Kid, Chris Benoit, did the unthinkable later on in 2007.
"Ted Bundy Jr." would get the office's approval before "Chris Benoit Jr.".
Interesting note: I read or heard somewhere - might have been Brother Bruce - that WWF/E briefly considered bringing OJ in right after the acquittal. If that's true, I completely agree with you, sadly.
@@thefranchise2356 But you said it yourself: acquittal. We all are reasonably sure O.J. did it, but according to the criminal justice system he is not guilty. Benoit condemned and sentenced himself.
Which also explains why there was footage from his Ford Bronco chase shown at Wrestlemania 11 or 12 during the street fight with Roddy Piper and Goldust.
dude.....dark lol
Oh yeah king kong bundy was part named after him just like Cactus Jack Manson, as long as the murder is not too close to home.
Step 1: Don't Bring Back the Flying Headbutt
Step 2: DO NOT Bring Back the Flying Headbutt.
Step 3: Wild Pegasus Jr. Would be a better bet For a Name.
They should bring back chairshots to the head
@@johnnyfoxx2509 Sadly they're still triggered over: "BUT MUH CHRONIC TRAUMATIC ENCEPHALOPATHY!"
But Good Luck with that.
Johnny Foxx They overdid it on the chair shots to the head. Most matches should stay in the ring. Save the chairs for certain types of matches.’
I Think maybe he should avoid references to any of Chris Benoit's previous identities or gimmicks. It's an uphill struggle already with the last name.
It's not just the chair shots though. I'm not why this was book but, i saw a match. When Chris does the flying headbutt. The guy taking the headbutt uses a championship belt as shield. So Benoit goes face first into the title. I remember looking at my grandfather and saying "head splitter or splitting headache?"
He shouldn’t be punished for what his father has done.
jamil ray Agreed
He's not. But if you go out of your way to draw attention like he would be doing....The dude came across as a really really really creepy guy, socially awkward. The fact nobody wants to interview him and he went and contacted Chris to interview....Again he's not being punished, he wasn't a wrestler who got fired for what his dad did. But it does feel like he's trying to bank on what happened in some way shape or form.
I agree, somewhat. I LOVED Chris Benoit, but that name is the most tainted in wrestling history. It's not David's fault, and he can still pursue a wrestling career, but if he insists on going under Benoit, and fails because of it, that's on him. Unfortunately for him, he's going to have to make it on his own merits, when other children of Hall of Fame talents get a huge boost by name and training.
It's not so much a punishment as it is an acknowledgement that using his dad's name is a collosally bad idea. Wrestling is based off perception and the Benoit name is tainted in most circles.
“Shouldn’t be” and “would be” are two different things.
Wild Pegasus or kid Pegasus maybe but Chris Benoit jr will leave a sour taste in fans mouth for a while.
Skippz 1904 na everyone loves Benoit
I've been saying wild Pegasus Jr would be a great name it accomplishes the same thing he wants to do but doesn't carry the stigma and eventually if he's really a great wrestler like Jim said do the storyline where he's trying to redeem the benoit name I think if he did it gradually and eased people into it he could be a great wrestler using the name David benoit Chris benoit jr is to much though
Agreed. Chris Benoit Jr. is way too much. Using Benoit's family name or a variation on one of Chris Benoit's nicknames, why not but this ring name would do him great disservice, imo.
@@tyfromthe5thdimension26
That, is an excellent idea. Besides, it sounds absolutely badass.
Thought the same thing. Pegasus Kid II or whatever if he just really wants to try and honor his father in the ring. Really tricky on that. I don't know, if Chris Benoit were my Dad, I'd hate his fucking guts.
I loved Benoit. He was my absolute favorite wrestler since his days in the 4 Horsemen. However, though his career was amazing, I cannot even think of him without the tragedy entering my mind. David should just make a name for himself and leave his father out of it.
secret germs Thanks professor.
Took the word out of my mouth
You nailed it.
but you also have to realize that, he does want to carry on his Father's legacy, although I do get what you're saying, it's not easy either way. If he were to wrestle with his father's name or his own name because in the back of his mind he'll struggle with that. However, I do get what you're saying though
I’d find another profession if my dad put my brother in the cross face and suffocated him...that’s just me
Chris was one of the best technical wrestlers to ever step foot in the ring. I hope his son has the same talent without the same demons
Chris had no demons, CTE Benoit did.
@@realghosttea there was a reason why William regal’s wife didn’t want Benoit around their house AT ALL..Benoit wasn’t this nice guy he acted like .
@@scorps9259 Yeah, I don’t know what I was smoking what I said this. What I meant was that Benoit wasn’t always like the way he was. Benoit should definitely be at fault for the stuff he did.
@@realghosttea Chris was a well known asshole
You can't go on one woman's opinion, William Regales wife, who cares? What about Vicky Guerrero? Did she say the same thing about him?
Look, Benoit was pushed to do an angle with his future wife, Woman', that he was initially against.
Think about that, Chris Benoit did not want to do the Kevin Sullivan 'Woman' angle, he was worried about the implications that kind of story would have on his kids.
Fuck Regal's wife. Only her opinion matters?
He really wants to use his dad's name, but I see Jim point it makes sense.
He really needs to be guided with stuff like that. No son of a wrestler should use their dads name
TBH I think that no matter what name he uses, the stigma of being Benoit's son is still always going to greatly limit his opportunities in wrestling. It's not fair, but it is what it is. IMHO he would probably be better off pursuing something else.
@@timf7413 He works on the Oil feild he already makes great money.
Yes, and IMHO he's probably better off staying there.
@@wwekane2468 Why not? It certainly didn't hurt Rey Mysterio Jr, Chavo Guerrero Jr. Bob Orton Jr. or Dr. Wagner Jr. (just some examples) - on the contrary, they all profitted from the name and legacy.
Agreed. If David wants to be in the business and becomes as good as his father, he should go for it. Cornette's right. The children should NEVER be judged by their parents' actions.
Using the name "Chris Benoit Jr", though, is gonna be weird.
@@SMOKETHECONQUEROR if this was ANYONE elses son id agree but with everything that happened he will spend his entire professional career apologizing and talking about "the incident" and no one will care about HIS path. its why he can't use the BENOIT name
"The children should NEVER be judged by their parents actions". Unfortunately, that's not the way life goes in the real world, let alone the wrestling business... Do you honestly think Jimmy Snuka's actions had no impact on Tamina's career?
@@douglasbryant2556 Yeah, imagine having the name "Von Erich" and NOT thinking about wrestling's dark side.
@@juicyfruit6311 yeah any new Von Erich family member is gonna have it fuckin rough both in the dark side of it and the expectation of their in ring work
@Joe Greene I know Lacey left the business, but Kevin's kids took up the business, right? Good luck to them.
You can tell by Jim’s tone of voice that he has a lot of empathy for David and what he has gone through. It really seems he does want David to be successful and not be shadowed by what his father did.
That "ooooh" reaction from Jim is pretty much the same reaction I had. Have to feel for David. He's in a tough situation and it's not because of anything he's done, but rather just who he is. Jim and Brian make some good points here.
It really does have the potential to haunt him in the business for the rest of his life, using the name or not. I wish the best for him, because he did nothing wrong and shouldn't be punished for it.
@@wallyhavoc860 That guy is a phony. He's been talking about being wrestler for over a decade but never shows up for training or does any matches.
@@zippymufo9765 Either way, I stand behind what I said IF he happens to give it a try.
@@wallyhavoc860 He won't. Some Canadian indie promotion announced they had signed him to "wrestle at least one match", which sounds like they weren't even sure he could do anything. Two years later it still hadn't happened, and I emailed them asking about it. They said "He is no longer with us and is working on a oil rig" 😂 He just wants someone to pay him for being Benoit's son.
If David Benoit wants to "honor" his father, the best I think he could do is put on a mask like Jim said and be Pegasus Kid 2.
It’s barely an issue because David is never going to wrestle. We’ve been hearing this same pipe dream from the kid for years and he’s made zero progress or noticeable effort to make progress, other than talking about it
Trent Gray absolutely. He probably just dreams of the fame and money but has zero motivation to actually train. He is just a tall lanky weird looking kid and he’s got a looong way to go to even have the “look” let alone the talent.
Conspiracy theory take here:
What if he is training undercover and it is all hush hush, because it could bring bad publicity before he has even stepped into the ring?
Watching his interview and listening to him discuss his past training, IMO i don't see the desire, especially if he couldn't finish training.
@@The80sWolf_ he was getting trained by Lance Storm years ago. He never completed training and was booking matches himself.
Luckily Storm and Jericho intervene and put a halt on it. From there idk what happen.
@@ppicaso1458 Yea it would be interesting to hear the full story.
"Try to change people's thoughts on the name Benoit from bad ones into good ones."
THEN HE TURNS HEEL! BAWHAHAHAHA!
He should use the Benoit name
Damn, that would pack some mad heat, possibly making him one of the most detested heels of the business
😂
Oh god imagine a storyline like the Pillman/Austin one at Pillman's house but instead it's Benoit JR locked in his own house with his wife and kid and the babyface tries to make the save.
Book it
@Adolf Hitler Just like a man named Adolf Hitler did many decades ago, killing himself like a coward
@Adolf Hitler nah, you try getting serious over Benoit calling him a coward, but you make a joke about hitler......
I do see Jims point. David should wrestle, but under a new alias ideally to create his own legacy.
David could wrestle as Pegasus Kid Jr maybe at a large push..
@@alfiebrown7499 I love that
@@alfiebrown7499 Read my message. I said His Late Father went under The Pegasus Kid when He use to Wrestle under a mask. Put David under a mask and name Him Pegasus Jr.
As he said though you cant keep a secret and fans know who David is and his father so do you try and hide who you are only for fans to troll him or embrace it to try and get over.
maybe he can debut as Crispin Noir?
How about Beniot-Balls?
Wrestling revolution
Maybe Krispen wah?
Alexandre Gama that is so funny.
This genuinely made me LOL. Good work.
give him a mask and call him 'el hijo del pegasus kid'
DukeBox It’s funny that’s the same thought I had that the only way he’d have any career unless he’s under a mask with a different name
Pegasus Jr might also work
That would work for me. Pegasus Kid II.
@@blakstud1 Prince Devitt was Pegasus Kid II
@@ICHIBAN-cz8ih Put him in a mask and call him Kid Pegasus. He has the lineage.
i think he should maybe use his mother's maiden name instead. because i think he will get a mixed reaction using the benoit name.
People will cheer just because of the name and people will boo just because of the name.
This is on point.
The problem is, as Cornette says, it's impossible to keep something like tha a secret now. Whether he uses the Benoit name or not, it will still be known that he's Benoit's son and (unfairly or not) the controversy and stigma associated with that will still be attacked to him.
Triple H has already said he had no problem using the last name Benoit or make him wear a mask
He looks exactly like his father (if his father was like 5 inches taller and off the juice) so I'm not sure that the name really matters. He's unmistakably Benoit's son.
tmage23 David Benoit would be fine mostly anywhere except wwe. Chris benoit jr on the other hand is a horrible idea to go with.
@@12Shockz He might as well use the name, people are gonna know who he is anyway.
@@catnip8896 Yea, but he shouldn't honor his father. It's insane that he wants to. His father killed his goddamn mother and baby brother for fucks sake. He should stop being a fucking mark.
thejoeycos It’s his fucking dad. If he wants to wrestle with the name Chris Benoit let him. Nancy wasn’t his mother btw and he wants to honor his old man so leave him be
thejoeycos His dad killed his step mom and half brother but you also have to think about what they’d think. Nancy was in the business herself and loved David as if he were her son as well. Daniel loved his brother and also dreamed to become a wrestler. You’d think that they’d want David to pursue his dreams no matter what and not be held back by something he had nothing to do with. However, with how his dad still killed them, I don’t know.
Here's my take on it. I support David and I think I understand where he's coming from. He knew his father as his hero and an amazing athlete. That within itself cannot be disputed. However, unfortunately and unfairly for David, society will never be able to separate his father's athletic legacy from the way he died. Unfortunately for David, there's no way he himself could ever be able to circumvent or reconstruct his father's legacy throughout any wrestling career he personally seeks out. If anything, it would probably be more detrimental attempting to use his father's name. David was completely innocent in all of this and I understand his grief and frustration. It's unfortunate that who he knew as his father is not the way the world sees him today. I don't think however, a career in wrestling is the best way to cope and I hope and pray he finds peace in a more appropriate and healthier way. ❤️✌️
I think Jimmy was all of us when he said “oooo” when the article said he wanted to go by Chris Benoit Jr.
Wonderfully thoughtfully answer by Jim. The people who hate Jim dont see this side of him. You can tell he's speaking from the heart and not heeling out.
And I love Jim heeling out.
I respect David Benoit, I'm sorry, but the kid is delusional if he thinks he is going to pay tribute to his dad by going under the name "Chris Benoit Jr.". In my honest opinion, David Benoit should go under the name "David Toffoloni" as a tribute to his stepmother, Nancy Toffoloni (AKA Nancy Benoit) because Toffoloni was Nancy's maiden name before she got married to Jim Daus, Kevin Sullivan and Chris Benoit himself.
I really like this idea. That said, if he wants to do this, he’s going to have a really tough road.
Much better idea.
That’s actually a wonderful idea.
It really sucks for this kid, but he’s starting out a million miles behind the starting line
If he pulls it off will make it a fuck ton more impressive
he already trained in the last 2 years.
The nephew of Adolf Hitler signed up to fight for the allies and dropped the family name. Sometimes, it's just best to leave some titles in the past.
Shindean you are so right,a family name should not dictate YOUR FUTURE 💯
No way anyone major will book "Chris Benoit Jr". The name Benoit carries a LOT of negative stigma at this point. So I'd expect he'd need to find another name. Maybe Arn can give him permission to become yet another Anderson; then he can tag with CW Anderson in the NWA, form a new Wrecking Crew.
WWE most likely will not sign David Benoit at all, and Chris Jericho is on record as trying to block David from entering the business, so AEW is out, and likely NJPW as well. So he'd have to try for MLW, ROH, Impact, or NWA or some similar mid tier national.
@@colebrown8293 you seem upset
@@colebrown8293 Bro what?
Why would NJPW be out????
Jericho just doesn't want him to suffer the backlash from the iwc and the national media... he cares about him
Chris Anderson lmao
His face looks just like Chris Benoit so he’s already got a strike against him.
Honestly. I think it's a killer name and he should do it.
I see what you did there. Here's a like.
Lol
Fuck you
You still get a like. But fuck you
Haha 😭
It’s too early to even call. He seems nice but he hasn’t done much training, admittedly and doesn’t look like he’s ever been in a gym.
christopher olivarez it was a weird interview. He said he’s had gear made already. It did seem like he was lying..
He kinda gives me the creeps
@@asmreatz4686 Yeah and also claimed he had trained with some real trainers in the business but seemed he was lying.
If he is 28 years-old, as thin as he is, he won’t be big enough until he is 30-31 at a minimum. He should have been weight training and wrestling since he was a teenager if he wanted to go in that direction.
The online photos of him and Chris Jericho show that he is tall enough but too thin and unathletic looking.
Y’all chill heys getting back into it. At the end of the day it’s his choice. And it was an interview not a promo
The name Benoit alone will scare off almost every sponsor, advertiser, and merchandise outlet. No promotion will be able to make much (if any) money off of it.
TheUnknownOne there are stupid promoters who would do it though.
Lots of indy shows just to sell tickets that don't care about sponsors
The top companies (WWE, AEW, NJPW,) yes but you gotta imagine there’s some random indie promotion who’d do it just for the free promo
I mean, there was recently a show where Alberto del Rio was wrestling even after all the crap he did. Most people don't care really.
@@irvinmorales1409 well, what Del Rio did is definitely very bad but is still more tolerable for the sponsors than a double murder even more if a child is one of the victims
I love how he addresses Super Humman as the "poor kid that's challenged and does the stunts." I literally LOL'ed
Bless his heart David LOOKS so similar to his dad in the face. He doesn’t have the genes for it potentially as his dad may not have either as he was was on the gear from 18 according to that Dark Side Of The Ring
0:32 thats the EXACT noise i made when my friend told me david wanted to wrestle as chris benoit jr
Benoit son is really creepy. Like stands over you and watches while you sleep creepy
Like waking up in the morning and there's a random chair next to your bed.
He is clearly on the autism spectrum and wanting to call himself Chris Benoit jr is the childish naivety that comes with it. That whole interview was like talking to a shy 8 year old.
@@poonoo87 he is clearly way more affected by the tragedy than he understands.
What did he do
EddieCCanegetitin nothing he just seemed really shy and awkward in the interview
Adolph Hitler Jr.? That would be an AWESOME GIMMICK. His finisher could be called "The Gas Chamber". Garaunteed heat. OJ Simpson Jr.? His finisher could be called, "The Glove That Doesn't Fit."
^I'm just joking about this stuff obviously. But I could just imagine VKM: "I LOOOOOVE IT PAL!"
Maybe use the name
Wild Pegasus it was a name Chris used to go by but don't use Chris Benoit jr.
That name will still have the same stigma attached as Benoit though .same with with peagus kid..
run 187 Liger just referenced it in his retirement press conference and there was no issue.
@@Run187 i don't think so...most casual fans don't know the name Wild Pegasus in regards to Benoit.
@@Run187 dude unless you are a hard-core fan you ain't gonna not that Chris was Wild Pegasus way back in the day
The problem with using those names is the fact it NJPW property or else yeah go with it
He should absolutely go for wrestling if that’s what he wants. He shouldn’t use his dad’s name.
Yeah it would be dumb for anyone to use their dads name who was also in wrestling
Aaron Guerrieri Not necessarily. But it would be dumb for Chris Benoit’s son to do so.
he can do it because his second name is Christopher, just like his dad so basically they have the same name
Even though I still consider Chris to be one of my favorite wrestlers, I agree going by "Chris Benoit Jr" would be a bad idea. And there's no way Vince would let it anywhere near WWE.
No one has to worry. He’s never going to wrestle. He just talks about it.
To poor David's detriment, he looks a lot like his dad too. No-one could ever look at him and not see Chris. Maybe if he wrestled as a masked luchadore and left all head-based offense out of his move set. (Especially the diving headbutt.)
Call him Wild Pegasus Jr. That was Benoit's name when he got put on the map during his run in Japan which got him signed by WCW.
Wasn’t Cactus Jack once billed as Catcus Jack Manson?
different era sadly
And Foley HATED it.
In the era of promos getting personal, someone talking trash to David could really go nuclear with some Dad references.
It’s not just proverbially a “no win” situation for the young man. It’s literally a no win situation. I mean, Like Corny said, You gotta stay away from the name. No matter what the kid does, He’s gonna hear the chants of “your dads a murderer” That’s not what someone would want to hear. Taking the Pegasus Kid name won’t work either. It wouldn’t take long for the smart marks to put two and two together. I’m glad I’m not him! But, If I were, I’d stay as far away as possible
I also think he'd carry the stigma of having to be booked as a face everywhere because having him called by a different name won't matter, and him acting like a heel would drum up his father in the audience's mind. Okay, he could probably be heel after he's 40rs, but he needs to develop a gut, and wear metallic tie dye shirts with the buttons open.
So sad about Chris Benoit my favorite. Hope his son lives a long good happy life.
Jim reaction to him wanting to use his name 😂😂😂
This would give new meaning to Sabu’s nickname; “The Homicidal, Suicidal, Death-Defying”
Not funny.
D'Arcy Vachon Atleast I didn’t say he should team up with Homicide
@@kevinjackson1275 You're a regular riot Norton.
Kevin Jackson OK it wasn’t funny as first but the reply got me a little bit
Glitch Gaming know what’s worse? His finisher.
It wasn’t proved that Chris really done it!
I believe they were murdered and made to look like that!!!!
I feel so bad for the kid. I understand why he wants to honor his dad's good parts, but that name brings up horrible memories and immense sadness for what could've been if his father hadn't gone off the deep end.
The other thing I would point out: Jimmy Snuka murdered someone. His kid got pushed in WWE.
Yeah but she isn't Jimmy Snuka Jr.... also don't they mostly just refer to her by her first name? I know WWE use to like to do that with all of the women, which is ridiculous and corny.
When she first hit the main roster they were heavily advertising her as Jimmy's daughter, down to the splash finisher.
@@thefranchise2356 Wasn't that before Snuka even got arrested though?
Point is, many in the business knew what happened, and they didn't care.
Same with Racist Hogan, who only "fights for the rights of Aryans".
The Franchise And him and Chris are not the only wrestlers who’ve murdered someone
You know what? Why not? Use the name. People will eventually come to their senses and realize he’s not his father. If he wants to wrestle, let him.
Too many strikes.
Names that would work for him and still honor his dad:
• Pegasus (or any other Greek mythological character/creature)
• Dave Badgers (his father was The Wolverine)
• The Crippler (or some variety)
It's really sad that his family name has been dragged through the mud. I'd love for this guy to wrestle under his birth name.
If he has the skill, training, and genetic talent; it's his choice not those in the comments to decide for him
"Whatever you think of my father's name, I'm taking it back again!"
He's taking it back??? Whatever he needs, ever he got, ever he wants, he'll take back again?!
@Josh Cuthbert Yoooooooooouu're under attaaaaaaaaaaaack
It's not just the Benoit name. Chris's in ring skill level is rarely matched which I guess will also work against David.
Chris is still in my top 5 best ever
Tyler Wolf me too
Tyler Wolf no
0:34 Yeah..... That about sums it up...
Even without the murders, even if Chris Benoit had a wonderful career and retired... going in as Chris Benoit Jr. is an uphill battle because Benoit was good. It’s a lot to live up to but also a lot to avoid the “you only got signed because of your dad” accusations. Should that be how the world is? No. Is it? Yes.
On top of that, he wants to use a name that one company won’t even say anymore? He’s choosing it? Yeah. That’s not smart.
Thanks for posting this video. Great thoughts from Jim C.
Here's a thought, maybe David Benoit could wrestling under a mask and revive the gimmick The Pegasus Kid as a tribute to Chris Benoit (but not bring up his name).
I could've seen the original ECW doing it. Heyman did a lot of risky things.
That poor kid. You can tell how haunted he is and how he feels like he has to redeem his dads name even though it’s not possible.
Definitely wouldn't use the name. But other than that pursue your dreams. It's a very different industry now. Still has it's flaws but much more safety focused at least in the top promotions.
Jim's point about rehabilitation of the name was brilliant
I can't imagine the position David Benoit. Regardless of the ring name he chooses, I'm rooting for his success.
Years later, but I loved how delicately Jim put it.
He shouldn’t have to pay for his father’s sins. Common Mr. 🍌 give him a break !
I love how THIS is the episode 123 of this podcast! 😂
It's obvious the kid still hasn't accepted what his dad did. Watching both eps of Dark Side of the Ring, i wish him all the best.
It's been awhile since I saw those episodes but I don't remember getting that feeling from him, what do you mean?
I like the idea of the mask. He could be either pegasus or the pegasus kid. That would be a safer use of his dads legacy.
He should wrestle as Dynamite Kid Jr, seeing as that was pretty much Chris Benoit anyway lol.
Benoit idolised The Kid, Modelled himself after him.RIP to both.Sadness in both their lives.
He can be Wild Pegasus Jr,. Pegasus II, Chris Angel, Fallen Pegasus, Pegasus Angel, Rabid Pegasus, "Wild" Dave Angel, Ben Ward...Crispin Ward, David Daniels, Ben Chris, Chris BenSon... *I JUST WANT HIM TO SUCCEED IN LIFE* !!!
His Name is David Chris Benoit which is why he wants to be known as Chris Benoit Jr.
@Steven Bristol If you didn’t see his Interview, then you have no idea what your talking about.
David Benoit has a very good job working on the Oil Rigs in Alberta Canada. He’s a big boy I’m sure he’ll do what he wants to do. He’ll probably sign with AEW. He was persona non grata with WWE because he posted a photo of him with Tony Khan. When WWE saw that he was banned from visiting his friends in the backstage area.
Daniel’s middle name also seems to be Chris as well. Their middle names are from their father’s. Chris Benoit’s middle name was his dad, Michael.
@@Deathpool_04 Not true. I’m a Jr named after my Dad. My first middle name is after my Grandpa on Mom’s side and my second middle name is after a Great Uncle on Dad’s side.
HARMARSCH2 I was talking about the Benoit family....
I don’t know what you’re talking about.
If he went for that name no one would book him
In New Mexico, Native American heel wrestlers used to have to wrestle under a mask when they had shows on the Rez. If they did not, they would have too much legit heat with fans trying to kill them. This was back in the 70's and 80's. I heard this from the late "Rapid" Ricky Romero who was a 70's star in the Southwest. He was the father of The Youngbloods tag team.
Cornette gave a well- reasoned answer.
3:53 - 4:10
I know this topic isn't funny in the slightest, but I cannot stop laughing at Brian's comparisons and might actually pass out from laughter.
Regardless of how determined or casual David might be about becoming a pro wrestler, him being who he is, the son of Chris Benoit, will allow some doors to open for him quite easily, while others will be even harder to open than they would be for some average joe. He could and definitely will get signed by independents and maybe even AEW without having much experience or dues paid, but to become the face of a company, or sign with WWE will most likely be incredibly difficult. It will be hard for him for sure regardless of what happens in his wrestling career.
Wanting to be named Chris beniot Jr is ridiculous. He's basically asking to be blacklisted
Brian Pillmans case was forgivable. He only harmed himself in the end and is still well remembered. That's why his son isn't getting flack.
Put him a Mask. PEGASUS KID or Jr.
If David would like to pay tribute to his dad, he could do so under a mask as the "Pegasus Kid". I would love to see David Benoit debut in AEW, partner with Brian Pillman Jr. & Brock Anderson, all managed by Tully Blanchard.
David needs to bulk up to stand a chance. He's a naturally small, skinny, dude. Using Benoit in general is a big no-no.
He's enough of a legacy without adding the Chris Jr. part. No one does that. They normally just use the last name and their own first name.
That fucking Benoit. I don't get guys like that. If you want to off yourself, fine. But why take your spouse and/or kids with you?
Yeah it is a really fucked thing he did, however I think Benoit had completely lost his mind when he was doing it.
He actually did an interview with Chris van vliet , he looks nothing like a wrestler 🤷🏾♂️
gotta put on some muscle and build some strength.
If he wrestle Under that name they're going to boo him out of every arena in America, he won't draw a dime.
Would the ring name “Chris Benoit Jr” cast a large shadow… no it would cast a FUCKING BLOOD ECLIPSE lol.
ECW! ECW!
He could wrestle as ''Chris Benoit'' saying the whole murder thing was a wrestling angle and he actually IS Chris Benoit himself and was just hiding for over 10 years. He didn't age thanks to a healthy smoothie diet or something but just lost his roided up gainz over that time. That would be badass storyline!!
I wouldn't be surprised if senile mcmahon approved of this
@@jordanmillon8904 I hope so. Because that would be the most creative thing he'd ever done!!
that would be the dumbest s*** ever your under 13 if you think that's good
@@666Roadhouse still better than Katie Vick ...
Dude that would kill his career and what ever company that happened in. The family would HATE HIM for it. This sounds like a Russo storyline.
Pegasus Jr, would be a good name for his debut wrestling name. Wrestle on the independent scene in Mexico for a bit before going for anything too big.
It's sad that people forget that yes Chris was his dad and he did awful deeds, but David also lost his dad , half-brother and mother figure in one swoop.
Having to deal with that lose and they way it happened and then having to bear all that weight and burden on his shoulders . He is a survivor of a tradgy that he will never get over what happened that day he shouldn't be punished if he wants to remember the father he knew. Not the monster he was for those couple of days .
I really like how respectful Cornett was. It was really nice of him to say "hey go for it, but..." instead of something like "HOW DARE HE WHAT THE FUCK"
*cheetos and Mountain Dew in hand*
“BuT hE sHouLd bE iN tHe hAll Of fAme”
I saw the interview he did with Van Vliet, yeah it's hard to say to someone you can't do this not because you don't want them to do said thing but you know said thing will just break him more.
The poor kid has no chance he’s Chris’s twin
2:29 are we just gonna brush past the part where Jim is talking about superhuman