I own a a/v company and I will never recommend a y other brand. Svs is so well built and they stand behind their products unlike any manufacturer that I have dealt with in my 24 year career. I have a customer that bought a pb16 ultra used from an individual. It worked flawlessly until it developed a very light buzz that was only noticeable during certain action scenes. We called svs and they honored the warranty which is fully transferable no questions asked they shipped a brand new replacement that was received in a week and paid for return shipping on the damaged unit..... And they started my customers warranty over with the new unit. I was prepared to argue and I was blown away because I have never had a warranty honored so smoothly especially with just the cost of shipping. Industry leading equipment and top tier customer service!
SVS has the best customer service. My SB 4000 subwoofer was having an issue after six years I contacted SVS hoping they would help me and they came through with flying colors they sent a new amp plate, and now my city is reporting mini earthquakes when my subwoofer is on. Again, thank you, SVS . Now that's customer service.
Not true they could not offer me any solution said I was sol on my PC ultra I said all i see is people talking about you're great customer service ..sorry no dice then I asked since they couldn't help me with the sub if i bought a twin 3000 if I could get 50 to 100 bucks off they said no ..A NICE BIG FU so yeah fuck those losers at svs customer service my ass
Svs makes good reasonably affordable products with good service and a warranty. I do see a few individuals say their subs are boomy which is normally an issue with setup whether its placement or room eq/ sub adj. . If you don't use room calibration software than you use the onboard eq, its not that hard to get good results. If you correct "boomy ness" than typically you may end up turning up sub volume. There is mounds of info out there to help with pretty much any home theater subwoofer adjustments. knowledge is power
I bought a SB 13” oh about 5 years ago. It completely rocks my planet! I have a fairly large stretch living room around 15x23’ I suppose. And vaulted ceiling of 12’ ? I have dreamed and dreamed of getting either sb or pb 16”. But now my dreams have expanded lol. Thank you so much SVS for being the best performing and technological producers of unmatched excellence! I truly love my sb 13”. I’ve thrown all genres at it like very loud Metallica, Drake, lower volume jazz and classical. It’s an amazing machine! But I must say SVS you are making me not only dream but drool over getting your new pb 17”! Thanks a lot ! Lol Btw I run all this mostly on my Emotiva basX t100 (model?) and the matching amp. Both in my utube channel. I ALWAYS recommend SVS and hold them in the highest regard. Hands down and thumbs up👍
I do love my SB-2000, but did I hear correctly that you're using two amplifiers to drive voice coils on a single cone? Wouldn't this require identical signals which is practically impossible?
@@ealanosborne I elected to go with the sealed version. The height and depth of the ported version would have caused interference with my screen and room entry door. They will be replacing my two REL 1510s.
What does it take to get that 8kHz? Is this at super high volume? Only explosion scenes in a summer blockbuster? Will it come effortlessly on a jazz song at low level volume or will I have to have the system cranked at 125 Db?
Going down to 8Hz means it will be able to handle more manageable cinematic frequencies (like 18-20 Hz) at louder volumes no problem. As opposed to a sub that is only listed with a frequency response down to 18 Hz, which won’t be able to push 18 Hz at normal volumes. 👍
You’ll want a sub to dig down that deep +\- 3 dB so that it can push out cinematic bass hits around 18-20 Hz no problem. A sub that’s listed with a frequency response down to 18 Hz, for example, struggles with actually outputting 18 Hz at reasonable levels. Make sense? 🤘
@@ealanosborne so SVS mades a better subwoofer that doesn't struggle going lower. I understand that design is key to how something preforms, like nick said with the tower speakers
Their website for this new sub states only down to 12Hz +/- 3dB. In any case, it still makes me drool. I have 2 mismatched subs, both SVS bought 2 yrs apart due to budget. I have the original PC-2000 and when it was released, I got the SB-3000 (easier to place footprint). Originally I bought the PB-1000 but while I found it to be good, it didn’t wow me. When I got the PC-2000, it put a smile on my face. The PC-2000 is great for movies but not tight enough for some of the music I listen to. So I ended up getting the SB-3000, which has been great for music and good for movies. I think in my small space I could get away with swapping out the PC for an SB since my space is relatively small (17.5 ft x 13 ft W x 7.5 ft H. At this point, combined I am enjoying the best of both worlds (room is a dedicated media space). I can tell at times with music is a bit off (for heavy bass songs), but no one else seems to pick up on it and are just wowed by the sound. I have become a SVS fan boy 😊
I love they dropped that display but would be even cooler if cover was magnetic like Arendal does and not have those holes around it for even sleeker look
I love when the thick ones go down deep. =) ...hahaha.. Jokes aside .. I'd like to see all the " best in the industry " claims put to the test. There are a few others with production 18in that might have a response for that. =)
Comparisons will be more readily available once review units have been sent out and/or more information is on their website. For now, it’s just an announcement. 🎉
Cool this is a lot better than the speakers imo I’d be interested in trying it out especially if it really hits 8hz +- 3db I want to see graphs and at what db level of its 8hz at 50db lol then who cares if it’s 8hz at 100db or better then wow this is cheaper and possible more extension within 3db range of the psa tv21 ipal
lol only thing I see is official numbers is 12hz all sorts of videos claiming 8/10hz plus or minus 3db that’s a straight up lie that’s with room gain your +- 3db is 12hz according to svs website next sub will be a jtr
Unfortunately this is a world in which Perlisten exists. Any other universe, these may have been epic. You and Jiles must do 2025 Subwoofer Showdown Shootout Extravaganza!!
@@rushgush no argument over their cost but Kaleidescape was the same until they realized the market share they were losing this year. Performance wise they have pushed the envelope and like Apple have caused others to take notice. SVS is grateful for the competition.
I find SVS subwoofers far too boomy, I have the SVS PB 2000 Pro and it is too boomy with music in movies and TV shows, so when you lower the bass you loose the effects behind gun shots and fight scenes. Much more tuned for bass heads who like dance club music than movies and TV shows
Funny, I was thinking I was the only one. My Emotiva SE-8 is in use and my SVS PB1000-Pro is disconnected and behind the couch. Do I dare to swap them and try the SVS again? Hmmm🤔 Even sealed, the SVS hasn't been impressive. Like you said, gun shots, cannons, crashes just sounds slow and weak. Tuned, tuned and tuned. Moved, moved and moved. Still not great. I wish I could get another SE-8.
Actually, Eminent Technology has had a sub for a long while now that extends much lower than 8 Hz. based on a totally different technology. Not new. Impressive, sure. But not new.
Except most receivers typically have a frequency response of 20hz-20,000Khz at their rated RMS level, so room acoustics will have to play a key role...
@rushgush are you upset cheaper suvs subs are smashing more expensive? You're feelings must be really hurt by the Monoprice Monolith 16" thx. That also beats the svs pb16 at 900 cheaper. Cry some more.
@michael-4k4000 The Eminent Technology sub actually reaches 0 Hz. using completely different technology. I don't know if Bruce Thigpen has those in actual production or not, though. Latter Edit: Yes, the TRW-17 IS available, but it must be professionally installed. And yes, it DOES work ... to DC. Totally different approach. Will output at 95 dB level a 2 Hz signal at 7 meters distance (measured).
I don't want to see your face ,,,,, I want to see the subs !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
8Hz plus or minus 3dB?😂 That litteraly made no sense.. It's either plus OR minus 3dB at 8Hz.. Not both🙈 I also see some design flaud with the bass bassreflex ports getting too close to the top wall. From personal experience that makes problems. And it would often be better using a slot port rather than tube ports. Not to mention look better too. But hey.. It's a insane sub anyway😎 Not just the option I would choose first for pure music listening. And also you should know that the deepest freq depends on the room and placement. You can not just place a sub wherever you want in whatever room to get the best performance. Same with speakers. Same with how deep it can actualy be audible. And technically all subs can go down to 8Hz.. Just at ALOT lower dB... This is basic information. +/- 3dB is the norm when messuring but it should be lower variations in dB since +/- 3dB will start to be quite adible variations.
I own a a/v company and I will never recommend a y other brand. Svs is so well built and they stand behind their products unlike any manufacturer that I have dealt with in my 24 year career. I have a customer that bought a pb16 ultra used from an individual. It worked flawlessly until it developed a very light buzz that was only noticeable during certain action scenes. We called svs and they honored the warranty which is fully transferable no questions asked they shipped a brand new replacement that was received in a week and paid for return shipping on the damaged unit..... And they started my customers warranty over with the new unit. I was prepared to argue and I was blown away because I have never had a warranty honored so smoothly especially with just the cost of shipping. Industry leading equipment and top tier customer service!
That’s right! 🎉
Good to see you posting some live content!
Weeee!
Wait for Monalith coming soon to Destroy SVS again😂💪
Woot woot! I pulled a Woody!! Wow...that sounded wrong...
I was gonna say… 🤣🤣
😂😂😂
did he say down to 8hz? do we need that lol
Thank you for actually asking some interesting questions(dilemmas) to SVS!
You bet! 😎
Hopefully they allow SB16 ultra owners to upgrade- trade in.
Thanks for checking it out Ealan! I’m very interested in picking up the 17. Hopefully you’ll get one to review
Such a beautiful piece of home audio. Love the innovative approach from SVS.
SVS has the best customer service. My SB 4000 subwoofer was having an issue after six years I contacted SVS hoping they would help me and they came through with flying colors they sent a new amp plate, and now my city is reporting mini earthquakes when my subwoofer is on. Again, thank you, SVS . Now that's customer service.
Not true they could not offer me any solution said I was sol on my PC ultra I said all i see is people talking about you're great customer service ..sorry no dice then I asked since they couldn't help me with the sub if i bought a twin 3000 if I could get 50 to 100 bucks off they said no ..A NICE BIG FU so yeah fuck those losers at svs customer service my ass
Not true
I'll just post on the next fanboys 😊
@@limpinhome78 lol yup its true they didn't even want the old Amp back.
@@limpinhome78🤦🏻
Svs makes good reasonably affordable products with good service and a warranty. I do see a few individuals say their subs are boomy which is normally an issue with setup whether its placement or room eq/ sub adj. . If you don't use room calibration software than you use the onboard eq, its not that hard to get good results. If you correct "boomy ness" than typically you may end up turning up sub volume. There is mounds of info out there to help with pretty much any home theater subwoofer adjustments. knowledge is power
Ealan good video, great job love see the actual equipment.
Thanks!
I bought a SB 13” oh about 5 years ago. It completely rocks my planet! I have a fairly large stretch living room around 15x23’ I suppose. And vaulted ceiling of 12’ ?
I have dreamed and dreamed of getting either sb or pb 16”.
But now my dreams have expanded lol.
Thank you so much SVS for being the best performing and technological producers of unmatched excellence!
I truly love my sb 13”. I’ve thrown all genres at it like very loud Metallica, Drake, lower volume jazz and classical. It’s an amazing machine!
But I must say SVS you are making me not only dream but drool over getting your new pb 17”! Thanks a lot ! Lol
Btw I run all this mostly on my Emotiva basX t100 (model?) and the matching amp. Both in my utube channel.
I ALWAYS recommend SVS and hold them in the highest regard. Hands down and thumbs up👍
Woohoo! 🎉
I'm an old school customer of SVS. I have the PC-13 ULTRA cylinder. But wow this looks tempting.
Will be interesting to see if the port design is really improved and it has less port chuffing than the previous PB16 model.
I do have a svs pb4000 it’s a beast are u guys coming out with a new version of it ?
I do love my SB-2000, but did I hear correctly that you're using two amplifiers to drive voice coils on a single cone? Wouldn't this require identical signals which is practically impossible?
dual voice coils
Should I go ported or sealed for my home theater
Ported. It’s the best of both worlds since you can still seal some or all of the ports if you so choose. 🤘
@@ealanosborne I elected to go with the sealed version. The height and depth of the ported version would have caused interference with my screen and room entry door. They will be replacing my two REL 1510s.
@@czwhat328 Makes sense. The PB is MASSIVE!
love to see it!
Wonder if you can run a pb16 ultra with the new 17 ultra.
With the updated DSP controls coming later this fall for the 17 ultra, it’ll definitely be possible to get them to play nicely with each other. 🤘
Can't wait to see the CEA-2010 and distortion measurements from Audioholics or whoever is able to get their hands on it.
Thanks for review
What does it take to get that 8kHz? Is this at super high volume? Only explosion scenes in a summer blockbuster? Will it come effortlessly on a jazz song at low level volume or will I have to have the system cranked at 125 Db?
Going down to 8Hz means it will be able to handle more manageable cinematic frequencies (like 18-20 Hz) at louder volumes no problem. As opposed to a sub that is only listed with a frequency response down to 18 Hz, which won’t be able to push 18 Hz at normal volumes. 👍
Does it go lower than the Nakamichi Dragon subwoofer?
It crushes the Nakamichi subwoofer. No contest.
Would love to see the measurements for this. Looks MASSIVE
Even bigger in person. 😳
8hz WOW
when do we need a sub that goes to 8hz? is there anything that can go that low
You’ll want a sub to dig down that deep +\- 3 dB so that it can push out cinematic bass hits around 18-20 Hz no problem.
A sub that’s listed with a frequency response down to 18 Hz, for example, struggles with actually outputting 18 Hz at reasonable levels. Make sense? 🤘
@@ealanosborne so SVS mades a better subwoofer that doesn't struggle going lower. I understand that design is key to how something preforms, like nick said with the tower speakers
Their website for this new sub states only down to 12Hz +/- 3dB. In any case, it still makes me drool. I have 2 mismatched subs, both SVS bought 2 yrs apart due to budget. I have the original PC-2000 and when it was released, I got the SB-3000 (easier to place footprint). Originally I bought the PB-1000 but while I found it to be good, it didn’t wow me. When I got the PC-2000, it put a smile on my face. The PC-2000 is great for movies but not tight enough for some of the music I listen to. So I ended up getting the SB-3000, which has been great for music and good for movies. I think in my small space I could get away with swapping out the PC for an SB since my space is relatively small (17.5 ft x 13 ft W x 7.5 ft H. At this point, combined I am enjoying the best of both worlds (room is a dedicated media space). I can tell at times with music is a bit off (for heavy bass songs), but no one else seems to pick up on it and are just wowed by the sound. I have become a SVS fan boy 😊
Woooooooot! 🤘🎉
Did you get HZ specs for the SB17 Ultra?
No I didn’t. That should be on the website soon, though!
Some channel said SB17 goes to 11hz
@@NunungAhdiatiNur I haven’t specifically researched it, but that sounds about right, since the SB is sealed.
I love they dropped that display but would be even cooler if cover was magnetic like Arendal does and not have those holes around it for even sleeker look
I will be getting one to join my two sb4000s
My electric bill is high enough now. Paying for the juice into the monster sub I'd need a second job. Hehehe
😅
I love when the thick ones go down deep. =)
...hahaha..
Jokes aside .. I'd like to see all the " best in the industry " claims put to the test.
There are a few others with production 18in that might have a response for that. =)
Is it faster than the SB-16?
Comparisons will be more readily available once review units have been sent out and/or more information is on their website. For now, it’s just an announcement. 🎉
Ist das der PB 17 Ultra wie er dann verkauft wird ? Das Gehäuse schaut nicht so Tief aus (eher wie das vom SB 17), was für Abmessungen hat der PB 17
Might wanna check out JL Audio Fathom before getting excited about SVS, much cheaper and better sounding
Me: Who the Fok even needs this?
Also me: I need this.
😂😂
Just make sure you have electrical circuits that can support this stuff.
Let's hear the EOT intro at reference.
What was the price Ealan on those subs?
$2,499 sealed. $2,999 for ported.
Ill give you 50 bux
can it handle edge of tomorrow opening scene, that made my pb16 cry uncle
I believe so! I think it’s mixed to go down to 10 Hz with that opening scene? Don’t quote me on that, though… 😄
Cool this is a lot better than the speakers imo I’d be interested in trying it out especially if it really hits 8hz +- 3db I want to see graphs and at what db level of its 8hz at 50db lol then who cares if it’s 8hz at 100db or better then wow this is cheaper and possible more extension within 3db range of the psa tv21 ipal
lol only thing I see is official numbers is 12hz all sorts of videos claiming 8/10hz plus or minus 3db that’s a straight up lie that’s with room gain your +- 3db is 12hz according to svs website next sub will be a jtr
8 years for the 16 ultra? My god.
Awesome
damn wish i could afford one.
Cassin Shore
Cortez Springs
So i guess in the next 2-3 years theyll come out with the SVS 18 and so on.....All about the $$ guys....
I have messed my pants just thinking about it 😏
The real question is when are you testing these bad boys out?
🤷♂️
The SVS guy said that it is better to have four individual subs... Sony's new flagship AVR 7000 $3300.00 only has one sub out?
Two sub outs. So two would still be better than one, to help balance things out around various pieces of furniture, etc. 👍
PB16 Ultra got his ass kicked by way cheaper 1600SW and SVS immediately started actually working
Unfortunately this is a world in which Perlisten exists.
Any other universe, these may have been epic.
You and Jiles must do 2025 Subwoofer Showdown Shootout Extravaganza!!
That’d be dope!
perlisten is overpriced. and targeted at rich mofos with too much money on their hands….
@@rushgush no argument over their cost but Kaleidescape was the same until they realized the market share they were losing this year.
Performance wise they have pushed the envelope and like Apple have caused others to take notice. SVS is grateful for the competition.
I dont recognize that voice, is that you Ealan? 😅
Yep! It was me asking questions! Maybe the processing I did to try and eliminate some of the background noise made it weird. 😄
@@ealanosborne LOL👍
I find SVS subwoofers far too boomy, I have the SVS PB 2000 Pro and it is too boomy with music in movies and TV shows, so when you lower the bass you loose the effects behind gun shots and fight scenes.
Much more tuned for bass heads who like dance club music than movies and TV shows
You should’ve get the pb3000 instead absolute beast of sub
That's good to know @music.movies.67. I own the RSL 12" and it's a beast in terms of value and imaging.
Try Audyssey One Evo MJ for your room correction. It will tighten up the bass and get rid of the boominess.
Funny, I was thinking I was the only one. My Emotiva SE-8 is in use and my SVS PB1000-Pro is disconnected and behind the couch.
Do I dare to swap them and try the SVS again? Hmmm🤔
Even sealed, the SVS hasn't been impressive. Like you said, gun shots, cannons, crashes just sounds slow and weak.
Tuned, tuned and tuned. Moved, moved and moved. Still not great.
I wish I could get another SE-8.
@@welderfixer
I know exactly how you feel not been that impressed using SVS
Actually, Eminent Technology has had a sub for a long while now that extends much lower than 8 Hz. based on a totally different technology. Not new. Impressive, sure. But not new.
New for SVS. That’s what was being highlighted.
@ealanosborne Sure, absolutely. Happy listening! 👍🍺🎶🎶🎶
"Actually" ☝️🤓
who cares. how many moves hit 8hz? maybe a few for what? 1-5 seconds out of a 2 hour movie.. big deal….
@rushgush It may matter for people who suffer constipation. A great prime mover! 😵💫🤣
Except most receivers typically have a frequency response of 20hz-20,000Khz at their rated RMS level, so room acoustics will have to play a key role...
Why is Andrew Schulz wearing a pink pimp suit and talking to Techno Dad? Is Andrew going to rent out T.D.?
It not the same .
8 Hz 🤷♂️
The psa TV2112 ipal or not crushed the pb16 ultra, likely this new svs also. The fv18 from rythmik also beat the pb16 ultra handedly also.
don’t compare a 15.5 inch sub to a 21 inch or 18……
u compare ferraris and stock civics too? 🤦🏻🤦🏻
@@rushgush the standard Psa tv2112 is $600 less. The ipal version with more watts is 349 more. Great job.
@rushgush the fv18 is $681 or 781 less than the PB16. Class is dismissed.
@rushgush are you upset cheaper suvs subs are smashing more expensive? You're feelings must be really hurt by the Monoprice Monolith 16" thx. That also beats the svs pb16 at 900 cheaper. Cry some more.
and that for only 20.000$ nice 🤣
Newest overpriced port chuffing sub
everything is overpriced. go look at your grocery bill…..
@@rushgush you want Biden, you got the prices
Gamechanger! 8hz is the panacea of Home theater. Until the day comes where there are ZERO Hz. Wow, imagine ZERO Hz?
😂 and then -8 Hz!
@@ealanosborneand next -12 hertz @ 150 db! ⚡️🎚️🎛️💰🧨
@michael-4k4000 The Eminent Technology sub actually reaches 0 Hz. using completely different technology. I don't know if Bruce Thigpen has those in actual production or not, though. Latter Edit: Yes, the TRW-17 IS available, but it must be professionally installed. And yes, it DOES work ... to DC. Totally different approach. Will output at 95 dB level a 2 Hz signal at 7 meters distance (measured).
That would be DC.
Yeh my sub has an button you press to activate 0hz setting.......it's called an on off switch. Hits 0hz every time!......😑😂
Maybe show the actual sub instead of you yapping
Why not 18
cuz there’s no difference
Would be great but a lot more $
They have to save something to debut next year. 🤑
I don't want to see your face ,,,,, I want to see the subs !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
8Hz plus or minus 3dB?😂 That litteraly made no sense.. It's either plus OR minus 3dB at 8Hz.. Not both🙈 I also see some design flaud with the bass bassreflex ports getting too close to the top wall. From personal experience that makes problems.
And it would often be better using a slot port rather than tube ports. Not to mention look better too. But hey.. It's a insane sub anyway😎 Not just the option I would choose first for pure music listening.
And also you should know that the deepest freq depends on the room and placement. You can not just place a sub wherever you want in whatever room to get the best performance. Same with speakers. Same with how deep it can actualy be audible. And technically all subs can go down to 8Hz.. Just at ALOT lower dB... This is basic information.
+/- 3dB is the norm when messuring but it should be lower variations in dB since +/- 3dB will start to be quite adible variations.
It should have been a 18 or a 21 I wait till then