Duude you're always WAY ahead of the curve. I've found out about SO many plugins from your channel. Seems like people don't find out about them until months later!
Excited to download the trial and test and compare to my current methods. Was glad to see the price was only $70 compared to their other stuff that’s like $200
Ever since I got the email about Kraftur from Soundtheory I've been looking for someone who knows their shit to give me an honest detailed review. Great timing my man! I might have to buy this one. It's worth the $69 they're asking now. I already have the Black Box and The Oven so it's worth comparing for that price.
@@user-bo8ex4ji7n I like the way that this tries to be its own thing and isn't trying to emulate some golden or orange gear. It's more in the category that Newfangled's tools are in IMHO. I have no idea, what goes on under the hood, also the metering is a bit strange, but it sounds super good to my ears (though in some cases I still prefer Saturate/Elevate).
@@MixedByDotRob Yeah I usually like these kinds of tools like FabFilter because they often bring an improved workflow. Maybe it's the metering that is making me struggle with this one. The lack of obvious gain reduction is so strange to me. I own Gullfoss and it has a similar issue where the UI is not extremely intuitive to me (in spite of my reading of the manual a few times). I guess I just use it too infrequently and then forget about what the Bias and Tame all that stuff is actually doing and have to read it all over again lol
@@elevateaudioengineering4892 It certainly does, but it doesn't look that bad to me (running the Kraftur demo in Plugin Doctor and RX). It's always panic-inducing to people because the difference between "clean" and "something" is such a big leap but after analysing the actual likely levels of IMD, they're very low level. There are much "worse" mastering plugins (in graphs-and-data terms, based on equal-energy sweeps) that are well respected for their results that I also wouldn't think twice about using. The presence of a small amount of aliasing doesn't mean that something is unsuitable for professional use, and if it really bother you then you could run it inside Metaplugin and use its oversampling (but I might not necessarily want to, for the following reasons). I assume that lesser level of harmonics reflected from Nyquist is a result of Soundtheory's "minimised aliasing", and I would also give them the benefit of the doubt about why they've chosen this minimisation instead of oversampling. Everything's a compromise, whether it's a considered choice to use a no-antialias plugin or whether it's a decision to use one and take the hit to either high-end phase accuracy or transient response (for minimum phase or linear phase respectively). There's always a cost one way or the other, and no choice is perfect. It's not as if Soundtheory don't know how to add anti-aliasing, so we have to conclude that they made a choice about which design plan was least bad for the audio. To me, this Kraftur thing sounds great, does its job well, and doesn't seem to cause problems unless you use settings and inputs that you'd never see in a real-world case.
THANKS! @MixbusTv All I can say after playing with this plugin for 5 minutes is..............WT MOTHER F$%#!!!! So very tasty the saturation. VERY loud and CLEAN! I recommend .
I've been playing around with this a bit. It's pretty damn interesting. ICYMI: You can click on the graph lines directly to adjust the OFFSET/KNEE curves and drag up/down on the SHIFT curves to adjust those parameters. 👍
@@mixbustv it seems not so many people know much about it. Well its much more, it has two saturation modes to apply to each of the bands separately. Also Knee and Sustain you mentioned, are present in the similar graph like control plus so much more.
Thanx for this, as always, straight forward and educational walkthrough.🤩 The variation of music examples really helped me understanding how it works in different situations. I wonder though… Where in the mastering chain do you place Kraftur, or any clipper for that matter? I haven’t been using clippers that much.
I will give this a try in my mastering chain even though I cannot imagine that this beats the AOM Limiter. I'll try to combine them. Thanks for the video
@@mixbustv Yes, I know, mate. Wanna use the AOM clip mode instead and additionally I try to combine them for a proper loudness without distortion. Thanks
I bought it. Now I wonder whether the inflator, kclip, aboreal pimax (which has widening options for each band) do the same things. After using it on two masters now, I think it is perfect for mastering. It makes the mixes cleaner and louder, but NOT necessarily more 3 D or punchier. The multiband saturation takes some punch and edge (which can be wanted). For punch I grab a PSP tool such as the vintage warmer or Oldtimer MB. Kraftur stays on my mastering chain though right before my Sonible limiter. Do I need an external mastering engineer? Will comparen
Amazing video David. You're a true inspiration btw, seeing how you're constantly improving, your videos, your mixes, your studio. Thank you for all you do!
Thx David, gold as always :) u dont try Boost (Devious Machines) or Hype (ADPTR AUDIO) yet? and Lagrange by UrsaDSP (both previous made in collaboration with them as well btw)
YEah Kraftur, Boost Rev. B, and Uberloud are in the same plugin catagory, but Kraftur would win in a shootout no question. I`m crazily impressed with Kraftur.
It's a clipper, distortor, sonic maximizer in one. It's a pristine clean output signal, but this can replace Acustica Audio's ASH ULTRA on the master bus chain. Can't replace Submission Audio's Flatline thats after the limiter on default values (i use it for the XO ADDA sound) because Flatline has the cleanest most ADDA converter sounding crossover filters up to 128x OSing in the plugin world game (even more so than LeapwingAudio's DynOne v3 and ADPTR HYPE)
When I link the shift parameters, the broadband curve does not shift on the graph. Makes the whole thing very confusing. I do wish there was clearer GR metering as well
It doesn't because it's not controlled by the shift sliders. Those are for the multiband. Also, I can't think of another clipper that has not only clearer but a more comprehensive visual representation of the gr on the entire market
@@mixbustvreally? Just about any other clipper is more straightforward in its GR metering than this one. How would you tell exactly how many DBs of GR you are getting in the low band, for example? Flatline or Ash by contract though obviously not MB, have clear, easily interpretable GR metering
LUFS cannot be the same if perceived loudness is different because that's what (roughly) LUFS measures. Peak level vs perceived loudness. That's the point of a plugin like this.
W8 until the end of the year, David couldn't wish it to come any quicker because I know he's dying to do "the best of 2024 in such-and-such catagory" video playlist.
Very Nice Indeed.... So.... While this is focused (from all the demonstrations around TH-cam) primarily on a mix, with some use on buses (drums is the common example, as it caters well to demonstration). How would Kraftur fare if applied on individual tracks, in the sense that one might use a clipper on an individual track for shaving a few DB off waveform spikes, would this be applicable as a tool for shaping sound while shaving spikes? Is this something that makes sense to apply at that level? ---and, if so, how efficient on processor is Kraftur? Or am I barking up the wrong tree? ...just wondering how much scope is there for using this at different levels of a mix project... any insights, musings, wrist slapping?
Kraftur on single tracks is perfectly fine, and groups too. As long as you're conservative and you don't try to chop as much as possible on every track just for the sake of loudness. This is an amazing coloring tool 1st
@@snubdawg1386 personally, I feel that the Low-Mid-High Shifts are a 3-band EQ saturator module of the plugin and that would be a decent use-case for using it on the 2-bus/single channels. :) :) :)
@@mixbustv Now I'm lost. I thought all happens in the analog world with drive a signal over 0db what process the signal just with difference behavior. Saturation e.g. TubeAmplifier, Waveshape e.g. Distortion Shapes (Analog, Medium Curve,...), Clipper e.g. Soft/HardClip (what are more or less curves of shapes. What is the Tube in Kclip? Driving a Signal in a Tube? And what is the final Clipper in Kraftur? A Saturator or a Clipper?
According to a forum thread the developer explained that they are 'mixed phase filters'... Pretty much linear in the passband, but with deviation in the stop band. They are able to mix dry, single and multi because the three signals get the same nonlinear phase alterations.
Hello, David. If I asked you which piece of hardware, or combination of two, would you consider the one that influences the most for obtaining the weight, bigness, 3D sense, richness of the mix by being used in the 2 bus, wich one would it be. I know, from your videos, that the effect of the RND 542's is really determinant, more so than the SSL Fusion in my opinion. Would you think of something that would be more crucial for getting that radio ready, controlled, polished, fat, dense mix?(Black Box, Gain Lab’s Empress, SPL PQ, Stamchild, Dictator, api 5500)
@@mixbustv As suggested on other video, please do vari mus battle. Manley Vari mu, Stamchild, Herchild, Unfairchild...maybe IGS Tubecore. Thank you for all the info.
@@doradayeh1550 Buying a vari mu isn't gonna give u the magic sauce you are looking for. Mixing itb will never sound as fat/dense as an analog console mix on a neve or api for a myriad of reasons. I have to do so little, often no 2buss processing on my mixes and mastering is very fast. Putting mixes through $70 plugins is pretty amusing.
@@mollyoko oh well, I don't have a console nor I am planning to buy one. I work in a hybrid project studio so I try build the mix thru different stages. I've got the eqing, compressing, clipping/limiting/saturation of individual instruments or groups with plugins inserts and then some more control with hardware inserts on busses like api 550B and 2500 on drum bus, Retro Instruments 176 on vocal or bass, Distressors on bass or kick and snare...then 8 stereo stems go out and get summed and/or saturated(if needed) in an RND Orbit 5057; the summing goes to a SSL Bus+ where more dynamic control and saturation happens, and then to an api 5500, and finally to (2)BAE1073 before going back to the DAW. For the myriad of reasons you mentioned, there is hardware that improves sound and make it sound more like records I've listened to, at least according to my ears, just by being used in the chain(D.W. Fern VT-7, UTA Unfairchild, Manley Vari Mu, Dictator, etc...). I get you, I don't think plugins are on par with some hardware but many of my favorite engineers work ITB with some complementary hardware.(Serban Ghenea, Dave Clauss, Josh Goodwin...)
I think that you are somewhat incorrect (somewhat correct obviously) because Black Box (either version of it) doesn't have a loudness "antialiasing" incremental loudness maximiazer and a multi band to single band clipper switch like Kraftur does.
@@mixbustv should mids be less loud than bass and high frequency range i heard about the fletcher monsun curve if, can you use this plugin to clip the high and low frequencies so the mix are percived louder?
This is not a multiband clipper. It's a multiband wave shaper/saturator. The clip part is not multiband. With that said, it depends on the material and what you need which one will work better. Personally I never use multiband clipping
I wouldn't say they are interchangeable. This is not a limiter, it doesn't have an EQ or the different algorithms MP has. But MP can't do what this does, multiband wave shaping and clipping.
I wish ALL Bypass/Effect comparisons were made with level matching. It's rather useless when the effect is louder to judge anything about the sound quality. It would be like trying to compare a before/after photoshop tweak where the before image is on a smaller screen and the after image is on a bigger screen. I've fooled people with using a simple gain plugin set to a few dB louder, switching between bypass and effect, telling them it's some complex effect.... and every time they absolutely love the louder one thinking it's this brilliant magical thing. Having said that, Kraftur really does sound good, but always tweak while level matching.
Absolutely not, and if you watched the whole video you'd know why I purposely didn't do it. Testing plugins is part of my job, anything I do is for a reason
The difference between modern pro engineers and amatuer enthusiast engineers is understanding the energy, power, loudness of each track.. its fundamental. I literally jumped out of my seat with a "YESS!" when @mixbustv left off the "match" and explained why. You understand the energy and everything else is art..
They keep inventing new clippers😂. Maximus in FL studio been offering multiband soft clipping for years. I bet with your ear and experience, you'd get similar results with Maximus🤔. But it's FL studio only lol
I know man. I took a look at that, I would not say same features, kind of not even close :D and when we start splitting bands.. you want someone you can trust with what's going on under the hood
Inflator actually has a multi-band operation with their 'Band Split'... so, it lets you minimize intermodulation distortion to an extent, but doesn't give you as much control over the multi-band operation as Kraftur. And Inflator is actually a naive waveshaper that introduces aliasing...
@@mixbustv Hehe, I didn't call Inflator naive. I think they found a great transfer curve... But the implementation of the curve is naive in the sense of 'straight-forward'. No oversampling or anything. Therefore it aliases. I'm referring to this TH-cam video ID: v=B0yd3amDn8s
If this is as good as Gullfoss I’m gonna have to cop it 🤷🏽♂️ I just bought RX 11 Standard last week and Acustica Audio Wine the week before…. Jeez my landlord can’t get a break nor a bligh 😏
@@mixbustv the sliders and the the triangle mixer are too complex for easy dialing. the display and spectrum look incredible but how you control them doesn't work well with them
Eh, no. And it was on purpose and I explained why at the beginning of the video. Testing and showcasing plugins and hardware is part of my job. I don't "forget" and everything I do is for a reason.
How many clippers do you have?
me : YES
😂 we'll end up having more clippers than a barbershop, and i'm absolutely fine with it.
😅😅🙌
😂
Year of the clipper
@@mixbustvif you cud only get one between this and Gold Clip, which wud you buy?
There goes another $70 I love this hobby.
😂😂😂
dude seriously, this shit is crazy i gotta stop lol
😂 I promised my self "No more until BlackFriday".
Yeah right 😂
😂
😂😂😂😂😂
I have been scratching my head with this one. Thank you so much for the detailed walkthrough
Duude you're always WAY ahead of the curve. I've found out about SO many plugins from your channel. Seems like people don't find out about them until months later!
Oh damn I thought I was going to go 2024 without buying a plugin. Going to try this out this week I see a lot of uses for it.
Yeah, I had the same intention but I didn’t make it 😂😂😂
Buy it next year then 😉
Wow I'm excited over this. Thanks for bringing this to attention
Excited to download the trial and test and compare to my current methods. Was glad to see the price was only $70 compared to their other stuff that’s like $200
Thanks David! Super useful walkthrough!!
Wow this is so well thought out! The controllable bands split is all I needed to purchase 😁
Great video and plug in! thanks David!
Thanks for doing these vids . . . very helpful. There are so many plugins out there. It's hard to sift through them. You help!!
Ever since I got the email about Kraftur from Soundtheory I've been looking for someone who knows their shit to give me an honest detailed review. Great timing my man! I might have to buy this one. It's worth the $69 they're asking now. I already have the Black Box and The Oven so it's worth comparing for that price.
Thanks for the great review! Bought it after testing it for 5 min. You can get such a beautiful 3D image from it. Best clipper/saturator right now!
This is one of the few plugins that really brings something new to the table! Sounds amazing!
what does it bring that is new to the table?
@@user-bo8ex4ji7n I like the way that this tries to be its own thing and isn't trying to emulate some golden or orange gear. It's more in the category that Newfangled's tools are in IMHO. I have no idea, what goes on under the hood, also the metering is a bit strange, but it sounds super good to my ears (though in some cases I still prefer Saturate/Elevate).
@@MixedByDotRob Yeah I usually like these kinds of tools like FabFilter because they often bring an improved workflow. Maybe it's the metering that is making me struggle with this one. The lack of obvious gain reduction is so strange to me. I own Gullfoss and it has a similar issue where the UI is not extremely intuitive to me (in spite of my reading of the manual a few times). I guess I just use it too infrequently and then forget about what the Bias and Tame all that stuff is actually doing and have to read it all over again lol
Massive plugin .... and very nice idea to show results for different genres ... tx david 👍🙏
This sounds a real good handy ideal plugin to push the volume more but still keeping the sound clean that i like the sound of 👍
Finally, a proper review! It seems to really boost loudness without artifacts.
This!
It aliases. that's not without artifacts. it's NOT a serious tool for the master bus as it's being marketed.
@@elevateaudioengineering4892 It certainly does, but it doesn't look that bad to me (running the Kraftur demo in Plugin Doctor and RX). It's always panic-inducing to people because the difference between "clean" and "something" is such a big leap but after analysing the actual likely levels of IMD, they're very low level. There are much "worse" mastering plugins (in graphs-and-data terms, based on equal-energy sweeps) that are well respected for their results that I also wouldn't think twice about using. The presence of a small amount of aliasing doesn't mean that something is unsuitable for professional use, and if it really bother you then you could run it inside Metaplugin and use its oversampling (but I might not necessarily want to, for the following reasons).
I assume that lesser level of harmonics reflected from Nyquist is a result of Soundtheory's "minimised aliasing", and I would also give them the benefit of the doubt about why they've chosen this minimisation instead of oversampling. Everything's a compromise, whether it's a considered choice to use a no-antialias plugin or whether it's a decision to use one and take the hit to either high-end phase accuracy or transient response (for minimum phase or linear phase respectively). There's always a cost one way or the other, and no choice is perfect. It's not as if Soundtheory don't know how to add anti-aliasing, so we have to conclude that they made a choice about which design plan was least bad for the audio. To me, this Kraftur thing sounds great, does its job well, and doesn't seem to cause problems unless you use settings and inputs that you'd never see in a real-world case.
@@elevateaudioengineering4892 I do not agree, I think it is a serious tool for mastering.
@@elevateaudioengineering4892 Agree and these youtubers whose wallets are talking are starting to become evident.
Right on Point MIXBUS TV ❤...That low mid translation is too much for a TV😂😂...Nice Video Brother.
Been waiting for a video on this 😃👍🏻
Demoed it on one of my working masters. And there is no way I'm taking it out.
Have to buy it now 😅
bought it. insaneeee
THANKS! @MixbusTv All I can say after playing with this plugin for 5 minutes is..............WT MOTHER F$%#!!!! So very tasty the saturation. VERY loud and CLEAN! I recommend .
glad you reviewed it. am a huge fan of Gulfoss (obviously not overdoing it), so I was excited for KRAFTUR.
They exceeded expectations
Definitely a nice plugin, we have so many amazing options these days it’s crazy 🤪
Great video David!
The offset has a nice effect on tails. I really like how it sounds on drums, does not sound like a drum bus but sounds a lot more cleaner yet louder.
dope song as usual!
I've been playing around with this a bit. It's pretty damn interesting. ICYMI: You can click on the graph lines directly to adjust the OFFSET/KNEE curves and drag up/down on the SHIFT curves to adjust those parameters. 👍
This is like FL Studio Maximus. Had all these features from a very long time ago! Cheers.
No actually. That's just a multiband limiter. This is completely different
@@mixbustv it seems not so many people know much about it. Well its much more, it has two saturation modes to apply to each of the bands separately. Also Knee and Sustain you mentioned, are present in the similar graph like control plus so much more.
Amzing review 🙌🏾
Cheers for the comprehensive review. Very impressive warm sound. Would this replace the ‘usual’ clipper? And where is that LUFs meter 😅.
Thanx for this, as always, straight forward and educational walkthrough.🤩
The variation of music examples really helped me understanding how it works in different situations.
I wonder though…
Where in the mastering chain do you place Kraftur, or any clipper for that matter?
I haven’t been using clippers that much.
Great video!
Its also zero latency so can be used for live applications
The snare becomes three-dimensional. 🥁
Honestly seems like the best clipper ive ever seen, kclip3 and t-racks have been my go to. Im still to try orangeclip amd very excited to try this!
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@mixbustv thanks for this content brother, currently binge watching a lot of ur vids and I must say, great content 🫶
with that great analytical quality info now we need channel about gym tips
😄🙏 I'll think about it
@@mixbustv that could be equally amazing channel, ideas of perseverance , grind and quality are all part of both art and strength
How the heck do they do that! Amazing!
I will give this a try in my mastering chain even though I cannot imagine that this beats the AOM Limiter. I'll try to combine them. Thanks for the video
It's not competition for that or any limiter. It's to be used in the chain with limiters
@@mixbustv Yes, I know, mate. Wanna use the AOM clip mode instead and additionally I try to combine them for a proper loudness without distortion. Thanks
Would you use this over the gold clip for mastering and mixing. Or what’s your view on that
My view is that you never know until you try. And one day A is gonna work better than B depending on the song
I tried this on a giant amount of tracks and it really destroy gold clip,for 1/4 of the price,it’s crazy!!!
I bought it. Now I wonder whether the inflator, kclip, aboreal pimax (which has widening options for each band) do the same things. After using it on two masters now, I think it is perfect for mastering. It makes the mixes cleaner and louder, but NOT necessarily more 3 D or punchier. The multiband saturation takes some punch and edge (which can be wanted). For punch I grab a PSP tool such as the vintage warmer or Oldtimer MB. Kraftur stays on my mastering chain though right before my Sonible limiter. Do I need an external mastering engineer? Will comparen
Man!
That hip-hop track at the minute 25 is so cool!
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Amazing video David. You're a true inspiration btw, seeing how you're constantly improving, your videos, your mixes, your studio. Thank you for all you do!
Is this a soft clipper feature? Amazing plugin.
Jesus christ now thats some level gain! It doesnt flatten the audio either! Thanks for the video!
Great price for such a good processor! Hmmm… what bill can I postpone? 🙈
Thx David, gold as always :)
u dont try Boost (Devious Machines) or Hype (ADPTR AUDIO) yet? and Lagrange by UrsaDSP (both previous made in collaboration with them as well btw)
YEah Kraftur, Boost Rev. B, and Uberloud are in the same plugin catagory, but Kraftur would win in a shootout no question. I`m crazily impressed with Kraftur.
@mixbustv what is the track in the HipHop mixdown again ? Was hoping it would be featured in one of your video's again :)
I mastered that some time ago, it's here
th-cam.com/video/3nFT0Wluw9g/w-d-xo.htmlsi=UIQOrW9DQg24GgbY
It's a clipper, distortor, sonic maximizer in one. It's a pristine clean output signal, but
this can replace Acustica Audio's ASH ULTRA on the master bus chain. Can't replace Submission Audio's Flatline thats after the limiter on default values (i use it for the XO ADDA sound) because Flatline has the cleanest most ADDA converter sounding crossover filters up to 128x OSing in the plugin world game (even more so than LeapwingAudio's DynOne v3 and ADPTR HYPE)
When I link the shift parameters, the broadband curve does not shift on the graph. Makes the whole thing very confusing. I do wish there was clearer GR metering as well
It doesn't because it's not controlled by the shift sliders. Those are for the multiband. Also, I can't think of another clipper that has not only clearer but a more comprehensive visual representation of the gr on the entire market
@@mixbustvreally? Just about any other clipper is more straightforward in its GR metering than this one. How would you tell exactly how many DBs of GR you are getting in the low band, for example? Flatline or Ash by contract though obviously not MB, have clear, easily interpretable GR metering
When you say perceived loudness, do you mean track sounds louder but LUFS will be same as if plugin is bypassed?
LUFS cannot be the same if perceived loudness is different because that's what (roughly) LUFS measures. Peak level vs perceived loudness. That's the point of a plugin like this.
Thanks. Do you have a fav clipper that you seem to use more than others?
Gold, Kclip and this will definitely enter the list. Altho' my most used is my AD+
@@mixbustv Thanks brotha, we appreciate all your shared wisdom.
W8 until the end of the year, David couldn't wish it to come any quicker because I know he's dying to do "the best of 2024 in such-and-such catagory" video playlist.
but is it better (does it get louder) than the master plan? :D
Very Nice Indeed.... So.... While this is focused (from all the demonstrations around TH-cam) primarily on a mix, with some use on buses (drums is the common example, as it caters well to demonstration). How would Kraftur fare if applied on individual tracks, in the sense that one might use a clipper on an individual track for shaving a few DB off waveform spikes, would this be applicable as a tool for shaping sound while shaving spikes? Is this something that makes sense to apply at that level? ---and, if so, how efficient on processor is Kraftur? Or am I barking up the wrong tree? ...just wondering how much scope is there for using this at different levels of a mix project... any insights, musings, wrist slapping?
Kraftur on single tracks is perfectly fine, and groups too. As long as you're conservative and you don't try to chop as much as possible on every track just for the sake of loudness. This is an amazing coloring tool 1st
where would you put this in your mastering chain, before the final limiters?
Yes
@@mixbustv thx...would you also use it in the mix on single channels?
@@snubdawg1386 personally, I feel that the Low-Mid-High Shifts are a 3-band EQ saturator module of the plugin and that would be a decent use-case for using it on the 2-bus/single channels. :) :) :)
I think this is the only plugin I’ve tried and bought within an hour 😂👍🏻 at £56 it’s a steel 😃
And this is why you get a pro to review your plugins ahah. Amazing David!
I A/B with Newfangled Saturate with different settings, Saturate was louder and cleaner with the same amount of drive, what am I missing here?
Saturate is everything but cleaner. Saturate is one of the most colored clippers. So i'm not sure what you're missing.
Smash hit! Great video David. Your reviews are ALWAYS the best!
Thank you, David! Who is the "Urban Mix" artist? Amazing vibes!
th-cam.com/video/GF10Wvwm6sI/w-d-xo.htmlsi=J1-lx9G7ZzzFrrS5
@@mixbustv thank you, Maestro!
How do you see teh differenc berwenn KCLIP3 (MB-Mode & Single Mode = serial mode) to KRAFTUR?
Kraftur is a waveshaper/saturator, K is a clipper
@@mixbustv Now I'm lost. I thought all happens in the analog world with drive a signal over 0db what process the signal just with difference behavior.
Saturation e.g. TubeAmplifier, Waveshape e.g. Distortion Shapes (Analog, Medium Curve,...), Clipper e.g. Soft/HardClip (what are more or less curves of shapes. What is the Tube in Kclip? Driving a Signal in a Tube? And what is the final Clipper in Kraftur? A Saturator or a Clipper?
This,Gold Clip and Ash can coexist all toghether?
On the same track and for 2bus? That's be quite overkill. Do I want them all because you never know which one you will need where and when? Heck yeah
@@mixbustvwhich one is closer to the lavry sound Ash or Gold Clip?
And I was just getting used to Newfangled Saturate.😂 💸💸💸
A/B them before you buy, Newfangled had better results for me.
Saturate = better concept with better metering - imagine buying a clipper with no indication of actual db being clipped.
How does this compare to AA Lace? I looks like it has much more functionality.
Lace is a limiter
Can you compare it to New Fangled Audio Elevate? I doubt it can give more transparent loudness than Elevate.
Elevate is everything but transparent
Do we know if the bands use linear phase filters?
They do, or you wouldn't be able to have or use a mix function
According to a forum thread the developer explained that they are 'mixed phase filters'... Pretty much linear in the passband, but with deviation in the stop band. They are able to mix dry, single and multi because the three signals get the same nonlinear phase alterations.
Hello, David.
If I asked you which piece of hardware, or combination of two, would you consider the one that influences the most for obtaining the weight, bigness, 3D sense, richness of the mix by being used in the 2 bus, wich one would it be. I know, from your videos, that the effect of the RND 542's is really determinant, more so than the SSL Fusion in my opinion. Would you think of something that would be more crucial for getting that radio ready, controlled, polished, fat, dense mix?(Black Box, Gain Lab’s Empress, SPL PQ, Stamchild, Dictator, api 5500)
Definitely the 542s are a big part. If I had to add another couple they would probably be the Wes TubeEQ and the Stamchild 670.
@@mixbustv As suggested on other video, please do vari mus battle. Manley Vari mu, Stamchild, Herchild, Unfairchild...maybe IGS Tubecore. Thank you for all the info.
@@doradayeh1550 Buying a vari mu isn't gonna give u the magic sauce you are looking for. Mixing itb will never sound as fat/dense as an analog console mix on a neve or api for a myriad of reasons. I have to do so little, often no 2buss processing on my mixes and mastering is very fast. Putting mixes through $70 plugins is pretty amusing.
@@mollyoko oh well, I don't have a console nor I am planning to buy one. I work in a hybrid project studio so I try build the mix thru different stages. I've got the eqing, compressing, clipping/limiting/saturation of individual instruments or groups with plugins inserts and then some more control with hardware inserts on busses like api 550B and 2500 on drum bus, Retro Instruments 176 on vocal or bass, Distressors on bass or kick and snare...then 8 stereo stems go out and get summed and/or saturated(if needed) in an RND Orbit 5057; the summing goes to a SSL Bus+ where more dynamic control and saturation happens, and then to an api 5500, and finally to (2)BAE1073 before going back to the DAW. For the myriad of reasons you mentioned, there is hardware that improves sound and make it sound more like records I've listened to, at least according to my ears, just by being used in the chain(D.W. Fern VT-7, UTA Unfairchild, Manley Vari Mu, Dictator, etc...). I get you, I don't think plugins are on par with some hardware but many of my favorite engineers work ITB with some complementary hardware.(Serban Ghenea, Dave Clauss, Josh Goodwin...)
@@mixbustv thank you again for that tg Wes TubeEQ video. That gear is sidvicious.
Any Info on CPU usage? Sry if this was mentioned in the video, watching this at work, so I might have missed it...
No idea. I have a 14900KS, I could probably open 100 of them and it wouldn't move the needle. My system is not the right one to gauge CPU usage.
@@mixbustv ok thank you. My question was a little pointless, at least when i'm thinking about it now. That's what the trial is for, i guess...
It reminds me of Blackbox! What do u think?
I think that you are somewhat incorrect (somewhat correct obviously) because Black Box (either version of it) doesn't have a loudness "antialiasing" incremental loudness maximiazer and a multi band to single band clipper switch like Kraftur does.
Nice🤘All it needs unlink left/right
Use dual mono in PT
They have taken my money already haha
10:32 whats the track is it released?
Part of an album I mixed and mastered some time ago, I'm not sure if it's released yet
@@mixbustv should mids be less loud than bass and high frequency range i heard about the fletcher monsun curve if, can you use this plugin to clip the high and low frequencies so the mix are percived louder?
How does it compare to elevate?
Elevate is a limiter this is a saturator
dayum
So if this band-splitting = reduced distortion is true then wouldn't Kclip 3's 4-band clipper be even better than this?
This is not a multiband clipper. It's a multiband wave shaper/saturator. The clip part is not multiband. With that said, it depends on the material and what you need which one will work better. Personally I never use multiband clipping
@@mixbustv i see - so closer to Saturn than Kclip. Thanks!
Awesome video. I think you just made them a crap ton of money :)
Glad you liked the video, but how would have made money? lol I wish (I don't get absolutely nothing if people buy it, if that's what you're thinking)
How would you compare this to Master Plan.... was about to get that and then this happened!
I wouldn't say they are interchangeable. This is not a limiter, it doesn't have an EQ or the different algorithms MP has. But MP can't do what this does, multiband wave shaping and clipping.
@@mixbustv yeah that's what I was thinking, Kraftur followed by Master Plan?
Are u using it on your mix bus ?
No
I feel it's a master-bus plugin for mastering but I know you didn't ask me for the answer. I just wanted to chime in and help.
I wish ALL Bypass/Effect comparisons were made with level matching. It's rather useless when the effect is louder to judge anything about the sound quality. It would be like trying to compare a before/after photoshop tweak where the before image is on a smaller screen and the after image is on a bigger screen. I've fooled people with using a simple gain plugin set to a few dB louder, switching between bypass and effect, telling them it's some complex effect.... and every time they absolutely love the louder one thinking it's this brilliant magical thing. Having said that, Kraftur really does sound good, but always tweak while level matching.
Absolutely not, and if you watched the whole video you'd know why I purposely didn't do it. Testing plugins is part of my job, anything I do is for a reason
The difference between modern pro engineers and amatuer enthusiast engineers is understanding the energy, power, loudness of each track.. its fundamental. I literally jumped out of my seat with a "YESS!" when @mixbustv left off the "match" and explained why. You understand the energy and everything else is art..
They keep inventing new clippers😂. Maximus in FL studio been offering multiband soft clipping for years. I bet with your ear and experience, you'd get similar results with Maximus🤔. But it's FL studio only lol
The clipper is not multiband here, the wave shaper is
@@mixbustv I see. That's the difference
David, just bought the air clipper...and now this? There is the arboreal pimax clipper out there with the same features, 20 bucks....
I know man. I took a look at that, I would not say same features, kind of not even close :D and when we start splitting bands.. you want someone you can trust with what's going on under the hood
@@mixbustv That is true, but can we trust this brand here? I mean 99 bucks for a piece of code???
@@monkmusic5994 Demo it, see if the piece of code suits your needs better than the other piece of code.
Amazing plug-in!
Wow, they take their time to make one but it's worth the wait. I like this company. Thank you Dave for the video, best in the world for sure
David dear Thanks Thanks Thanks !!! you're my hero!
Fantastic plugin!
This interface is really nice I like it
im comparing vs standard clip , and seems similar. not sure if its worth $70 for someone who makes no money on music haha
There's really not much similar to standard clip, which is not really one of the best tbh
@@mixbustv I was just doing quick loudness test.. I don't usually use standard clip myself
Soooo, are we saying Gold Clip has just met its match??? 🤔
Not sure why so many comparisons with Gold clip, which is great, but it's definitely not a multiband. And this is more a wave shaper than a clipper
Intense! Would you say this is somewhat a multiband version of Inflator?
Inflator actually has a multi-band operation with their 'Band Split'... so, it lets you minimize intermodulation distortion to an extent, but doesn't give you as much control over the multi-band operation as Kraftur. And Inflator is actually a naive waveshaper that introduces aliasing...
@ProudSausage did you just just call one of the most used plugins in the history, coded by Paul Frindle, naive? 😂😂😂 That's funny
@@mixbustv Hehe, I didn't call Inflator naive. I think they found a great transfer curve... But the implementation of the curve is naive in the sense of 'straight-forward'. No oversampling or anything. Therefore it aliases. I'm referring to this TH-cam video ID: v=B0yd3amDn8s
If this is as good as Gullfoss I’m gonna have to cop it 🤷🏽♂️ I just bought RX 11 Standard last week and Acustica Audio Wine the week before…. Jeez my landlord can’t get a break nor a bligh 😏
😂 love Gullfoss, I like this one more. I'll leave it at that.
@@mixbustv This is just $69. When Gullfoss came out it was $200
I can clearly hear some Glueness in the top end
those A/Bs are kinda fvck!ng unreal. 🤯
Has minimum phase crossovers and the sales rep tried to gaslight me on gearspace that its linear phase. Turned me off. No thanks to snake oil salesman
the UI/UX is not so great imo
Funny I think it's probably one of thee best designed and laid out GUIs out there
@@mixbustv the sliders and the the triangle mixer are too complex for easy dialing. the display and spectrum look incredible but how you control them doesn't work well with them
This was something else.
thank you for agreeing to this video.
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Interesting plugin, too bad most of your signals were louder than bypassed. Rule #1: louder always sounds better, but you know that.
Eh, no. And it was on purpose and I explained why at the beginning of the video. Testing and showcasing plugins and hardware is part of my job. I don't "forget" and everything I do is for a reason.
@@mixbustvSorry about that, missed your explanation. Sounds logical to me. Love your videos!