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You can CUT on a Mac. Copy the file (command+c) then paste it using option+command+v and it will delete the file on its original location.
Thanks! Did not even knew that :D
Was about to say that! I think this is way more intelligent than using CTRL+X bc you can decide what you want to do with the file when you are at the destination directory and not have to decide before copying / cutting
What i do is just hold alt and drag the file to wherever i want it to be . Much faster and efficient
🤓 Can also option + right click to show the "move" command in the context menu. I also discovered that recently despite having used Macs & Windows for decades.
I never knew that
Most important:
1. In System Preferences under Software Update uncheck "automatic Updates".
2. Never go for the latest updates (major updates). Hold back until the 3rd part devs give green light for their plugins to work correctly with the latest macOS.
Have fun!🙂
Along with that - I don't know if things have changed - but when updating get the combo updater instead of doing piece-meal updates. Remember the old saying - those who live on the bleeding edge are doomed to get cut by it.
I second this 🙏🏼
Yes, That's good advice. I always wait for about 6 months to update system OS to allow for that. Been on Mac since the early 90's and have I have lost almost no working time to computer error.Also never had an internal HD fail or any hardware fault...so far.
I update to last macOS before the release of the new one! 🤭 Just updated to Sonoma. Usually in Jun-Jul I update!
@@fuTuRo-Sonic The only time I lost work time was due to an Apple security update that bricked my machine.
I had a 2014 Mac Pro desktop (trashcan).
In 2019 it crapped out so I took it to the Apple store to be fixed.
They tried a number of replacement parts and fixes over several visits (the first visit costing me $750aus in parts) but the problem was never resolved.
The Trashcan was 4 years out of warranty but Apple kept trying to fix it for no cost after failing the first time which was great but in the end, they finally gave up on it ever working... and then they did something remarkable.
They replaced my dead out of warranty 5yr old trashcan with the latest iteration of the Mac Pro series, the updated 2019 model.
The 2019 Mac Pro is worth almost 3 times the price of what the Trashcan cost me here in Aus.
Apple had a courier drop off my new Mac Pro to my door a few days later and its been killing it ever since.
Apple user for life here.
This is a good point for choosing Apple.
What it also does is switch people around from telling the world that their Mac had major issues and instead praise Apple for customer service! Haha. All the problems with thoae 6 years of trashcan Macs are all forgotten!
Crazy how reputation is created...
You're an exception.
Once you go Mac or iPhone, you don’t go back. Best decision I ever made
Yup, I''ll gladly pay the higher price for an iPhone and Mac in return with no issues. It's the same reason why I only drive Toyota Camry's. Japanese cars are just better built and the quality is apples and oranges to American cars.
I've built PC's since the late 90's and quit after ~2018 after buying a used 2013 MBP to try out ($600)
Now I run like five M1/2's for video and music. Never building a computer again. No advantage anymore. Mac's are truly plug and play.
If apple priced their products competitively then there would be no Pc vs Mac fan boys. Used PC for 15 years before switching to mac for 13 years. Couldn’t imagine going back. Great video discussion/review. Welcome to the club mate.
Did you know the Ultra models have two Thunderbolt 4 ports on the front of the Mac Studio as well? So you also have 6 TB4 ports :) and a copper heatsink instead of a aluminum one!
Storage is a huge issue with Macs today .
Finally! Congrats for the transition
Recently switched myself, and you can Cut on Mac! Instead of Pasting with Cmd + V, push Option + Cmd + V
I learned something today, thank you !
i hope this is a wake up call for intel and they finally start innovating like they used to from the days of the 2600k
Bro. You need to configure the new PC in order to work perfectly for real time audio process. It took me weeks to find the right BIOS settings and custom undervolt/overclocking settings. Now my PC is dead silent, no cpu spikes, super stable and can handle 30% more of vsts.
Did you miss the part in which I said I've been building and running PC in my studios for 20 years?
Yeap same here , did the same exact thing with my i7 14900 with my 96gb ram
I also made the switch, recently. I was 24 years in windows audio and got a Mac system in April. The hassle of the drivers is a lot more minimized. I’m not quite as fast as I am in Windows yet, but I’m not running blind either. It feels more “stable”. You can work a bit more confidently with lower chances of a crash. Also, now I have the option of finally getting the McDsp APB.
My mac literally showed up via fed ex the VERY HOUR of the solar eclipse!
Apple was not immune to similar fuckups with their macbook pros a few years ago. New processors saved their ass.
Yep
Don’t know that it’s fair to say the new processors saved their asses when they spent over a decade developing those chips from scratch specifically to one day replace Intel in their machines. They saw what the future held and took it upon themselves to start preparing and planning for it. They didn’t go from a company with zero experience in chip manufacturing to being a market leader by pure luck.
@@harrykatsarosyou're right, they were trying to milk the old cow until it died, and then saved their asses by deciding to finally sell some inovation they've bin hiding in order to make more profit....
i9 16" MBP never had an issue... well other than the fan which is sorted but using a cooling slab and of course they realsed the M series CPU about 3 months after I took delivery 🤦.
Apple developped its own Mx chip because it knew that x86 chips (intel) made its device run as cr_p.
In 2021, Apple decide to let this x86 chip archictecture chip to all retard_d companies which are not interested in efficiency and productivity.
The only (but not the least, the first) thing to consider is the price (especially the big difference of upgraded ram and ssd). In Italy costs even more than United States due to added taxes.
I switched from pc to mac about 10 years ago. Nothing wrong with either. For music production it made more sense for me.
I'm switching also.
Why update the OS in studio enviroment? For better Wallpapers, A.I. Mail response, etc..? As you said, you use the studio computer only for ProTools.
i just got a new m2 mac and the fan is dead quiet, LOVE IT. even the base mini is pretty snappy for small projects
M2 cpu only upgrades to m2 pro with 10 or 12 cores(cant remember) going from m2pro to ultra or max just upgrades the gpu. so if you just do music production getting pro is the best bang for buck, if you also do video or 3D rendering or other gpu power work than you could upgrade the gpu aswell (so use the m2 max or m2ultra)
Welcome to the family! I made the switch back in 2011 when I was still a network engineer. I always had problems with my Windows machines. The learning curve for the switch was fast. The problem with the hot processing was due to the older processor architecture. Even Macs had that problem with Intel processors. But then came the M1, and that was a whole different ballgame. Based on ARM processor architecture, every part works with efficiency, so you get the full package, and it delivers. Funny thing, ARM is coming to PCs again! While ARM processors have been implemented in PCs before-like in Chromebooks and the Microsoft Surface Pro X-the M1 has shown just how powerful and efficient ARM-based computing can be.
Been a Mc user for years and years. Never had any real problem with OS upgrades, just make sure you subscribe to newsletters for your plugins and watch out for companies giving a heads-up when there might be an issue. No big deal.
"Let's face it, there's no competition'.. 'nuff said 🎯
Good for you! I switched about 12 years ago or so and never looked back. I'm in the IT field and the revelation there was I working on an older Mac developing an application and it had 4gb ram and it worked, and it was old at the time, but it worked maybe better than the a same spec older pc with 8gb of ram. That thing I developed on that machine has generated at least $200M for my company (not me). I have many Macs now, and you'll find that firing up a new and doing is a dream. If you do the thunderbolt transfer to the new machine, all your stuff is there and installed and the only problem is getting the licenses authorized, and it takes maybe a couple hours top to bottom.
Regarding the hard drive prices, those drives are blazing fast. Like you might be getting 7TB transfer speeds on that internal drive, and good luck buying that and having it work with external drives. It's a bit of the same experience with their displays, like boy are they expensive to what you think you are comparing them too, , but they are kick ass.
Regardless, good for you, and I hope the machine blows you away trouble free for a long time (I'm sure it will).
This video is very much needed right now. Many music producers, engineers and studios are switching from Windows to Mac. Your insight and experience will come in handy. I am currently using Windows 11 in my studio, and I am planning to buy a Mac Studio. I hope my transition will go smoothly. The video was great, but you repeated your statements several times, especially at the end of the video. I'd shorten it down a little. It felt a bit redundant. Overall, it was an informative video man!
Been Mac with music + Logic since 2007...It's super convenient for everything music related and makes getting ideas out of your head and recorded as fast and easy as possible. Also, everything just seems plug n play with Mac...at least within Logic...hardware or software...it just works.
I'm a life long PC guy. I've got some music production friends work on Macs, so I have a little experience on them. At one of my audio jobs they got a new Mac M1. For such a tiny(form factor?) computer I'm really impressed with how fast it is. The Mac os just like iphones, could be considered smoother and more efficient with CPU usage. I've only seen one M2 Studio in person, and it's a true silent monster!!
I don't own a studio or work at a purely professional level. So investing this much into a system isn't feasible.
However!, I'm seriously bummed to hear the new intel CPUs and chipsets are causing problems. I'll be needing to build a new system at some point soon. I'm curious if there's a reason why AMD is not an option for PC audio production??. I know they're popular with gamers....I've never used them. Intel has some serious damage control to do, and some catching up with Mac!
I've been using an AMD ryzen platform for audio for years no problem.
I use Ryzen and no issues except when Cubase did the switch to 12 but I just switched to bitwig and haven’t had issues at all with any projects and it maximizes my hyperthreading that the AMD chips do so well
According to data from Dawbench tests, Intel systems at the very least used to be better for virtual instrument usage at low latencies. You might want to check with Scan co uk. They're one of a couple of audio pc providers. As for the recent Intel troubles, the Intel 14xxx series seems to have serious problems, but anything with Alder Lake cores appears to be ok. I use a Ryzen 5950X system, and I'll be checking out out how the 9950X does when it comes out soon. The M1 and M2 computers by Apple are brilliant, but a comparison always pays off. My system HAS to be able to play games, so my choice was simple until I had to do all the research :P .
Hi David,
An interesting video. I'm very pleased that your switch to Mac has been so rewarding. I have been a Mac user for 30 years and have never looked back. The one thing I wanted to do was allay your fears about upgrades to OS. My current machine is a 2014 iMac, ten years old (so in tech terms, ANCIENT!) but, like yours, specced to the hilt. I have gone as far as I can with the OS for my processor and am currently running the equally aged Catalina - I can't go any further - but everything still works! It is only now that I am getting messages from one or two apps telling me I ought to upgrade my OS, but if I'm working in the box, there's no problem. The point is that your machine is an absolute beast, nicely future-proof, and your current OS will last you a very long time. I know each new OS comes with fancy features, but don't be intimidated; you won't NEED to change for years.
Thanks for a great channel. All the best.
Switching to Mac years ago was the best thing ever - even a Pc that was spec’d out to be as stable for audio as possible still had all sorts of glitches etc , first Mac noticed all devices immediately and just ran , as others have said , wait or just don’t upgrade the OS untill all your gear is officially supported.
It’s not like the next OS will have anything special for Audio .
Also most important, thank you for years of valuable information 🤘🏼
all facts
RISC vs CISC it's a no brainer for noise and power consumption.
You probably render these videos a lot faster than before too, so I am sure that is a big time saver for you now!
Speed is definitely noticeable, much more noticeable than any previous PC upgrade
Yeah.!! Yo can talk about Your video editor experience!! Thatas a hot new TH-cam video!
@@mixbustv David do you have a link for that keyboard you're using with your new mac studio ??
at the radio studio where I have working for 20+ yrs, we were on Mac, from a 3.1 power PC, that was only the recording unit on the 8 logic, everything was analogue equipment, to the latest update a couple of years ago the M1 mac mini which for our radio projects is more than enough. now I have a studio full of equipment covered with dust because plugins are so powerful and so easy to use. but I remember my mate's studio problems with windows. he was always messing with the system going slower and slower with time, due to registry faults that are accumulating over time, also the second problem was the viruses, almost to panic. every client came with its own USB stick that he was running through a laptop with one antivirus, then to another PC with another antivirus before plugging it into his working machine. he was reinstalling the whole system several times a year because it was impossible to use until he got pissed, and got the Mac OS Leopard!!!!! installed on his PC, then sometime later bought his own first Mac. old times stories but stick to the topic...)))) congrats on the transition!!!
also if your doing brig transfers sometimes its faster to just clone the drive in disk utility vs coping from one drive to the other
I empathise. I switched back in 2002 when OSX first came out. I took one look at it and decided instantly that it would be worth it. One week later, I knew more about the Unix architecture than I even did about Windows or DOS. Never looked back. Given the size of your studio, this seems to have gone pretty well : )
Yeah, the UNIX underpinnings really sold it for me back around that time too. OSX (MacOS) really do combine the quality desktop environment and under the hood unix geeky stuff. Its funny, that many Linux geeks dont even realise that MacOS is actually a certified UNIX:
What I love about Mac is you turn it on and it……..works.
I did something similar only I built my PC 3 years ago and a few weeks ago decided to switch to an MBP. Loving it so far, everything is smooth and I have not been able to push it hard enough for the fans to kick in so it's dead silent in the studio.
Glad I’m not alone in this! I too recently went full hog on a windows rig for music production in Cubase and I just kept getting issue after issue after cpu spike crackle etc etc. switched to m3 max MacBook Pro and the Mac COMPLETELY outclasses my brand new *theoretically* more powerful windows rig. Especially stability wise. I also had ridiculous usb issues like you which were instantly solved by Mac. Oh and also the complete silence of the Mac compared to idle fans on my windows rig still sounding like a small generator in the corner of the room.
Don´t update the OS in a studio computer, you don´t need to! Serban Ghenea use in his studio pretty old OS´s. They will update only when some new plugins will not work anymore. Also the OS you got delilvered with the mac is usually the best and fastest.
Definitely you're right with Mac Studio. For big(ger) projects a Mac Studio Ultra may be the best choice. But for most people a Mac Studio with a mMax processor will be great. It's incredible what even my Macbook Air with 24gb Ram can handle... My windows Main Studio PC is only here, because there was no good deal on Mac Studio that time - and I wanted to build (DiY) some things...and maybe upgrade the Ram/graphics for DeepLearning things...but the haters will always hate and I always try to show what are the best things in both worlds - for some musicians/creators maybe the freeware situation is still an advantage + upgrading paths...(what really isn't necessary when having the "right amount" of Mac Studio - its awesome what raw power and efficiency comes with Apple Silicon)
Great choice !!!
I bought my first computer in 2000, a Mac titanium laptop, and then bought the first version of the ProTools MBox. In 2022, I bought the Mac Studio M1 Ultra, and now have the ProTools MBox Studio. I make a new video every week, composing, playing, recording, mixing, etc. The Mac never kicks its fans up to a higher speed and is silent as a sleeping mouse. I am sure you will enjoy your new Mac !! Thanks for your excellent videos and great advice !!! Que va piano va sano y lontano!!!
I began a slow switch the beginning of this year... within a few weeks, my overbuilt PC got kicked out the room! My PC laptop was almost unusable when trying to work on a project. I'm standing by for the updated Mac Studio to release, but this M3 Max-equipped MBP is a beast!
When I ran an internet real estate consulting firm in the mid-1990's, I charged twice my standard fee if the client had a Windows machine. Seriously. I git complaints, but the number of hours of pain trying to get a client's machine to work drove me nuts. Most of my clients agreed in the end to pay the extra fee.
I even would "charge" my dad extra for helping him with his Windows machine. When I finally convinced him to go with Apple, he was a totally happy camper, and almost never asked me to help him again with computer problems.
Welcome to Mac. I made the switch about ten years ago after being a diehard PC guy. I've never gone back.
Same. They are expensive but get a very long life out of them before needing to replace them.
@@Amusiastudio not really ... its vice versa
@@F-Andre ive had my mac for 10 years and only now am i considering an upgrade. Never had a pc last that long without getting crippled with bugs and bloat.
@@Amusiastudio i upgraded in23 last update was in 2015 and 2007
@@Amusiastudio "Never had a pc last [10 years] without getting crippled with bugs and bloat" - And did the price of your PCs cost anywhere close to the price of your Mac? You can go a long way by choosing the right components. I'm typing this on an 11-year-old PC that cost just under $1,850 when I built it in 2013, and it still runs well. I'm not making any judgement on which is better (PC or Mac); I'm only pointing out that PCs absolutely can last 10 years and longer.
I switched to a Mac Studio in March and minus a few vsts I have to boot the old ball and chain up for from some old sessions, I"m never going back.
D, get into using Notes on your Mac. You can screenshot and paste mix info into folders. I have a ton of notes from pro's etc.
All that is backed up automatically to the cloud.
Planning on switching too. I am dealing with the same USB issues as I have so many peripherals connected. Just waiting for the M4 Pro and M4 Max chips which are coming in the fall apparently.
Hey, the M1 benchmarks BETTER than the M2 or M3 on pro tools.
@@GingerDrums Hey, I get that. For me. It’s more to do with future proofing and being eligible for software updates and support years down the line. Apple can be quite aggressive at times. For example, the 2017 macs no longer receive updates. Only 7 years old! The M1 machines are already almost 4 years old and the M2 Pro and Max systems are already at least 2 years old. The hope is they will support their silicon a lot longer than the intel stuff they did but you never know. I don’t want to be upgrading my Studio machine for at least 5-7 years after it was purchased.
@@GingerDrums This is incorrect. You're probably talking about the video by James Zhan. His test methodology is super skewed toward showing that the M1 is better. The newer Pro Tools versions are able to utilize performance AND efficiency cores.The only issue comes with the M3, which has slightly less memory bandwidth (but still high enough not to make any practical difference with audio).
@@GC-nd1lp absolutely true! My bad and thanks for the updated info
@@GingerDrums That video frustrates me to no end, you're good lol. He compared the M1 with 8 performance cores vs M2 and M2 processors with fewer than 8 p cores, even though ones with 8 p cores exist! It's a valid concern for lots of other DAWs that don't utilize efficiency cores.
Welcome to the club, brother! I think you are really going to like it once you are used to it! I'm not trying to slight Windows at all... I know there are many people who do great work on that platform, but I have found that for ME... it's much easier for me to deal with any issues if things go wrong... and I just click with the OS much more. I've also found that often times the Mac version of a particular DAW just seems more stable. ENJOY!!!
Given that you love the Cmd+Space shortcut - which I also use 500x a day - it's good to know that sometimes Mac's go a bit crazy with the indexing of the spotlight search. My Mac has on several occasions gotten stuck in some kind of indexing frenzy where it eats up 90% of CPU power permanently while trying to index your hard drive, and one one occasion it literally forgot everything. Both times the answer is to Google how to shut down and reset the spotlight indexing and it fixed it. Good to keep in mind if your machine at any point feels like it's losing power and you're not running any software.. it might be the spotlight going ga-ga.
plan on switching soon also trev drop that magic app bro 😂😂😂
Hey David! My heart goes out to you man! I don’t have the set up you do by a long shot, but the frustrations (insert your own phrase) no matter what level, we all have our ups and downs with gear. If there’s anything positive about it, it’s that you find the community (eventually) that gets us to the next gear. Rock on!
Welcome my dear brother, I build PC’s and work as an audio engineer and the exact same thing happened to me 13 years ago…
I’m having my backup harddrives replaced with NVMe4.0 M2 drives running in raid 2 so I have fast and very safe backups now. Still running on a Mac Mini but everything works flawlessly. I was thinking about building a new pc but after rebuilding a pc for my daughter I think I will stay on Mac for now, the whole Windows setup and drivers is a pain in the ass. 😊
Welcome on Mac! Happy to having always worked on it for everything I do - not just music
One good tip is to lag one full OS version behind before upgrading, or at heast few point releases behind if not forced to upgrade 👍
I switched about a year ago & its been amazing!! You can also customize the shortcuts 😁 have fun...
Got the Mac Studio M2 Max Chip & Have the same DigiCal hub & I have had it for a few months now and is running much better than my MacBook Pro 💻
BigUps for the Switch but the Storage & Memory space you have is way more than what I have though! All the Best with the new setup 👑👊🏿✊🏿✌🏿👑
I was a hardcore Windowssystem user for all of my PC-life. Build every Tower my own. Working on the creative side of things (Graphics, music and cutting). I switched. Not one moment of regret! No comparison how smooth things are running. With the ARMs CPUs the tides have changed.
I am thinking to move a file or photo on mac to another internal folder, all you have to do is select it and drag it to the folder.
When I got Pro Tools LE twenty some years ago, I bought a Sony Vaio to run it. I returned that computer in less than a day and bought a G4. I've never looked back.
My only problem with Windows is the USB issue you mentioned. If all you’re doing is engineer work that Mac is worth it for just working all the time peace of mind. As a hobbyist I couldn’t justify the price for those specs. But Apple hasn’t cracked the code to processing power = more heat issues, Apple just put systems in place to make sure their chips don’t max out. They don’t know more than Intel or AMD who have been doing this for decades. The other reason I stopped buying Macs is because my first Mac was a PowerPc that they discontinued which I lost money on. Apple will eventually discontinue M1 M2 and make you upgrade to M3 like they are doing with Intel Macs and like they did with PowerPC. You’d be lucky if that Mac is not obsolete in 5-6 years they way they move. Apple model is to make you buy their products every 1-2 years.
I personally know at least 10 or 12 professional facilities, not even just "studios" that run 10yo Macs still. I'm not sure how accurate that statement is.
@@mixbustv they can’t be updating the OS
Best MacOS feature for creatives - quick preview anything with ’spacebar’. Amazing for quickly browsing through samples in folders, photos, readme .txts, excel sheets or basically anything.
I ended up paying extra for the 8TB storage option to prevent the hassle of connecting external drives and the lag time introduced by usb-c
the mac studio has a known problem with USB A ports , yesterday my ilok stopped working because the mac decided to stop giving power to the usb , its a voltage issue so i decided to get a usb hub with an external power 12v
I was waiting for this after ur video about the thunderbolt compatibility video.
The work around for cutting a file on mac is: (command c) =Copy and then (command +option + v) = cutting the file from it's original location and pasting it to the new location. Cheers
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13900KS has been steady so far on win 10. Going to use this as long as win 10 works.
13900 is the mac destroyer when it comes to audio, good choice.
@@SamHocking maybe if using mac OS it would be... hackintosh rocks! ... but as long as windows is used, audio workflow is greatly impeaded and much of the same functions require far more lines of code and therefore much less efficient use of energy despite the speed on paper. Just look at the installer size of ProTools on mac and pc... very different! I've noticed the same trend, where the mac programs typically use less hard drive space for the same program, so we can assume there's less lines of code and/or less steps to perform the same tasks. Mac's operating systems just feel like they're better thought-though during the dev phase, and they also behave a lot more predictably. I love waking up with the same computer every day for years.... no need to "upgrade", and "auto update" turned off. It's simply bliss... (im running i7700k and mix huge sessions with zero threat to the CPU).
So, in that my PC was built in 2016 and OSX breathed new life into it to the extent to where I have no need to mess with it... I'd say the operating system is quite a bit better-suited for audio stuff...
I used to build new PCs like every two years! I don't think I ever built one that didn't ague with protools to some extent.
@@SamHocking i suspect, programs which are initially programmed using Unix will never function as well in C++
@@steveburns6912 Maybe? Is Unix a common OS to develop C/C++ Audio applications to typically run on Windows and MacOS for audio though?
Why you don't buy a heating system instead? haha
The best thing on mac is the core audio (Aggregate) and the security. I work on both plataforms but I prefer Mac.
I guess these days PC/Mac are very similar. A few years ago Mac's were in all professional recording and TV/Film editing studios. Macs were without doubt far more user friendly for creative artists and musicians whereas PC's were really for admin, offices, banks, shops, warehouses and accountants. TBH the only time you saw a PC in a pro recording studio it was being used as a wedge to hold the studio door open in summer... 🤣
That's not really true.
Many edit studios used PCs for systems for editing, one called Wave something that used DSP cards. Pyramix is also extensively used in Film/TV.
Nuendo is popular too and historically worked better on a PC, if not still. Sadie has also been popular in the professional world, especially broadcast.
Pro Tools and Avid are the only reason macs are ubiquitous .. Logic is not really seen as professional enough a tool, nor any other DAW really .. It is all about Pro Tools and Avid (who bought out Digidesign) who were both historically tied to Macs because of the DSP hardware previously required ..
But, it is true to say that OSX is easier to use for people who don't like computers and not so technically mindesd hence why many creative folks prefer Macs, including studio engineers .
I use a Mac Studio ,paired with a mtrx 2 and hdx ,solid setup ,very happy
Thank you so much for diving so deeply into your experience! I think I'll be switching to Mac after also using Windows for production for the last 15 years myself.
My Mac Mini M2 24 GB memory, 512 GB SSD, runs Studio One 6 great. I'm doing Livestream audio processing with it mostly. It's never caused an issue, while the Windows PC crashed almost every week.
Welcome in.Youll never go back I promise!!!!!!
Mac user for 25 years specifically for Logic...and the OS. I currently have a 2017 iMac that is still going strong and next will likely be a Mini. The new Mac studios are pretty dope but I think an M2 mini is perfectly fine for music production
I'm surprised you took so long!You deserve the best if the best, my friend! Welcomed!
Hope all continues as smooth as butter....(Just realised the delete / copy function was mentioned so edited)
Thank you!!
I've been using exactly the same machine you have with PT Ultimate HDX and AVID chassis. That thing is a beast.
btw of course you can cut. This was removed from I think Mountain Lion or later, but select what you want to cut, cmd+c, then in the target folder you go alt command v and it will cut, just like on PC or on old macs with cmd X. There are at least two other ways to cut but i forgot these as I use this method now for years. Also, get used to cloud updates for Time Machine. One big update and the rest will be a breeze daily. Also, modenr OSX doesn't need NTFS bridge like crossover, so you can plug whatever and it will read your old FAT or NTFS drives. Also , spec/price debate - it is not as it was 10 years ago, you are spot on. And the quality - I am writing this on my MB pro 15 that is 10 years old, went through being studio computer etc, and now it is "office notebook" - I can STILL run most of my projects on it, ofc it would be unprofessional to do so, but making the point - that Mac Studio you got will be legit centrepiece of your studio for the next X years.
Solid discussion. Been a Mac guy since 1986, though I dabble with PC's and have built a couple Hackintoshes. Bought a M2 Max MacBook Pro last year and it's easily the best Mac I've ever had... able to do serious work on the go or hooked to my studio rig with one Thunderbolt cable. Also, one must have utility is ChronoSync.
Congratulations David, it's a smart decision when dealing with audio for all the reasons you've mentioned....
Everyone's experience is going to be different, but I've had really good luck using Ryzen CPUs. Never an issue with blue screens, crazy spikes or heat. I don't have a complicated setup, so maybe that contributes to the stability. Even my low spec AMD laptop is hard to choke.
Working an mac since the beginning of my production, I don’t want to go anywhere else , for music production it’s working so well , for me .
The benefit of Macs: The “quality floor” is substantially higher.
The benefit of PCs: You can both get a better system on an absolute basis and on a dollar-for-dollar basis… if you are willing to put the work in.
In other words, if you just want something that works, Macs are a great option. Because of Apple’s integration and closed system, the floor is high. Things just work because Apple does the legwork for you. They make the choices for you. But if you want the best possible system, or the best system for the money, PCs are where you get that
The best possible system still depends on what you do with your computer. For example, there are Apple only software like Logic Pro and Final Cut Pro (which I use) where you can't run on a Windows machine. So no matter how good of a PC system you have, it won't matter if you can't work on it. Again, saving time and a lot of headache is worth going Mac for IMO.
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This is a video about computers for music production. I thought what “the best” means would have been pretty clear…
Takes time to do the proper research, find parts and finally build the thing. Fun, but it costs time. I prefer the flexibility of the PC but I see the attraction of a turn-key system. As soon as you go off the beat path though, MacOS is just as finicky as Windows ever was. Then you have to rely on help from other users, which is what happened here. Both paths have their challenges. I picked mine just like everybody else.
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“Takes time… costs time.”
Yup. This is the entire point of when I talked about Apple making the choices for you.
Well said.
The best possible system to me is one that works every time, looks like someone actually thought about the design so it doesn't look like shit and is intuitive to use, and is completely silent.
You can totally cut paste. The difference is that you use Copy and Paste Special (Command Option V)
The same copying problems happen in older mac os as well
I don’t think I’ve ever heard you swear before haha. You won’t regret the change 🙌
You haven't been on the channel long enough, then. 😂
@@aleksamrkela831 I hear him swear but it’s always censored from what I recall
I switched from PC to Mac in January of this year. The quietness of the Mac is just unbelieveable coming from PC - SOOOOO quiet!
I was a Cubase user but have switched to Logic Pro after having a shot of the trial!
I bought a brand new M2 air 500/16 and seems a very well done product... No heat, no fans, lightweight, solid, great battery. The best laptops probably but they cost twice as a very capable win laptop.
Using a hub almost for everything pisses me a bit.
I’m so happy for you!
Main obstacle for me to switch to Mac is its high prices. Other than that, I will do it
Hello David, to reduce issues with newest OSes on Mac, just stay 2-3 OSes behind the latest one. That way, you’ll be able to work pretty smoothly and install newest plugins and so on, without major problems
funny thing, is that what you describe is exactly what I expereinced from just making my PC a "hackintosh". Haven't looked back... my i7700k barely uses half CPU in huge projects.... NOT THE CASE WITH WINDOWS. So, obviously hardware compatibility is an issue, but just switching the OS to mac operating systems (im on ventura but started on sierra) made my life far far far easier and less stressful... Less compatibility issues and smoother operation. I used to be huge into building PCs and I haven't needed to touch it since about 2017 when I switch to hackintosh. (knock on wood)
I know both systems on a professional well above average level, and you can find solutions for most aspects that you miss from the other platform. The two have become more and more alike over the years. Since I changed away from daily computer work, my new goal is to be as good with Linux as I am now after 25 years on Windows and MacOS. I'm just waiting for the right QUIET laptop to run it on because I hate fan-noise. Ps. Yes, you can 'cut' a file but it's just known as 'move' file. First copy the file. At the destination Command-Option-V and the file is moved to there. You can also Command-drag a file to move it (if moving across different harddrives).
Congrats on migrating on Mac, Dave! I rarely use my M1 Air 16 (I am 20+ years on Mac's). Unfortunatelly I can't play games and train AI on Mac. And that "old" firewire devices definetely will not work on M1/2/3 type processor. Also my M1 Air has no HDMI or DisplayPort so I use Type C HUB with HDMI to connect it to my monitors (and I can't connect it to my 3 monitors), interesting how Mac Studio behaves with 3 monitors. Also lack of ability to upgrade Mac is frustrating. So I am still on PC for 1-2 years but time will tell, may be I will switch to Apple.
As mentioned by other commenters, the safest bet in regards to OS updates is to leave it at least a version behind; it can often take some software (and/or hardware) developers up to 10 months to catch up to a new Mac OS.
When I was running both a Mac and a Windows computer simultaneously, my saving grace for transferring and backing up files on external hard drives were a couple of programs from Paragon Software -- NTFS for Mac, and HFS+ for Windows (plus a version for the older Mac filing system). These enabled me to easily mount drives, regardless of how they were formatted, on either OS and seamlessly use them as normal. Always made switching computers a breeze.
M1 Ultra 64gb 1TB bought this at time of M3 release but at a great price so very happy.
Fans from computers start to sound like jet engines in a studio fast.
So relieving with the no fan noise.
Paragon Software offers the macOS software "Microsoft NTFS for Mac," which allows any NTFS drives to work on a Mac. I believe the current price is $30, and the software is compatible with Sonoma and M3 processors. Updates are released regularly. It's practical if you occasionally receive Windows files on external NTFS drives.
One more thing. The software works very well for me and runs very fast. Apparently, NTFS data is processed so quickly that you can even edit videos directly from NTFS drives. This means you no longer need a Windows computer for file transfer, solving that problem as well :-)
There's a program where you can run windows 11 on Mac's. I can't remember the name of it, but I tried installed in only Mac just to see, I was curious. Not using a PC for over 3 years I was stumbling in Windows. I will say it did run extremely smooth on my Mac. It wasn't the bootcamp program for the Mac, it was something else I installed that allowed me to run Windows.
I refuse to give my money to a company that openly hates their customers, and lies about their shady business practices regarding sustainability and right to repair.
You mean every company then
@@mixbustv apple is specifically egregiously hypocritical in this regard. They comply only when their hand is forced by government regulations, not because they think it will benefit the consumer. There are countless examples of this predatory anti consumer behavior.
Apple literally got busted and LOST in court for slowing down their products with updates. Some people are drones.
Nobody cares about what you think. ;)
I own a macbook but I do agree with you.
NTFS for mac paragon software, allows you to use externals drives on both Macos & Windowsos, worth it in the long run
Just got it yesterday
Welcome to the world of we Mac Snobs! lol. I didn’t understand Mac Snobs-until I got one 10.years ago. My only warning might be (for Studio work) is to not rush into the iOS updates immediately.
iOS is for iPads and phones. Iphone operating system.