@@Benjamin_Gilbert-Lif "Never more than twelve". That is great writing isn't it. He's actually been paying more attention than Andor, probably knew all along it was going to end like this
The fact that he responds immediately with that means he's always been looking, counting, always planning but never took it further because he always thought he would just serve his time and get out. Now he knows, for sure, that's not going to happen he's going to put all those years of knowledge to Andors plan.
The progression of him from not wanting to answer to immediately responding was so good. Kino is a great character... I'm looking forward to seeing him turning into Snoke. /s
This episode was dark as hell. A torture device that uses the dying screams of alien children. An entire level of prisoners electrocuted to death. And an old man being euthanized after a stroke. Really messed up stuff.
Literally. This whole series feels like SW only in name and a few settings / references, cos the dystopian aspects of daily life (fashion, cities, settings, etc) along with the super dark tone u mentioned makes it feel more like a 1984 spin off or WW2 film in Nazi France
@@saraloking5993 lol, already started rewatching. Accidental as we were getting our daughter started, and when she had to leave we just kept rewatching… Highly suggested, you’ll see a whole lot more.
Kino's arc, for such a small character in a short time, is shockingly good. You can tell exactly how he thinks and how his mind is changed just by watching him react to external events. Amazing acting from Serkis.
@@pietropietro5466 I have friends who sat around figuring out how to defeat electric floors. It's really easy but getting up to the security level will be the big one.
Glad you noticed the handrails, I'm hoping that the handrails are key to the prison break, then we can have an important scene where the Senate passes a law removing handrail requirements from Imperial safety standards, setting us up for the design of the Death Star.
Seeing Kino finally crack, and realize that he's in as much a hopeless situation as the others was the most satisfying thing for me. The lightbulb above his head finally went on, and now, here's where the fun begins. And I'd give anything for an outtake of Serkis looking at Garcia and saying, "My precious." 🤣
Ngl idk if kino was apathetic i think he really did care and truly believed it was best just to play nice and do the time hes seen plenty people die. Once he sawthe old man put down and realized its all a lie he showed genuine disgust and anger. Thats not selfishness thats genuine HATRED
@@mondaysinsanity8193 I'm not suggesting at all he was apathetic. He was trying to survive just as much as all of them. He chose a different route, and then when it really hit the fan, he realized he needed to change his course of action.
If he even says the word "precious" I'll fall out of my chair. Better would be if the yet-to-be-shown pilot the Empire caught is Tom Hardy. Let the ball-busting begin gentlemen. You're the bait.
This episode was just terrifying. The brutality and evilness of Imperial methods and oppression shown in this episode was well displayed. Andy Serkis character from full confidence to hopelessness after the realization that nobody is getting out of the prison was top notch acting.
DEDRA IS SUCH A GOOD VILLAIN! SHE SCARES ME! DENISE GOUGH IS DOING A TREMENDOUS JOB! Additionally, Genevieve O'Reilly is killing is as Mon Mothma! She's been superb ever since episode 4!
I see people compaining about the show being boring because nothing happens. Maybe I'm watching a different show, but these episodes are so packed with stuff happening that it's difficult to pick it all up on the first vewing.
Andor is just as - if not more - intense and action-packed as the other live action works. What makes it look “boring” is that it’s action is defined differently, using the lingering tension and clash of ideologies as an alternative to death and explosions. You can fight someone without ever pulling a trigger, and this show perfectly encapsulates that. I wish more people could understand that.
That camera move when they cut away from Bix's torture scene is the best kind of fan service. There's absolutely no way anybody who didn't recognize it would feel left out, but if you do recognize it, you feel an immense sense of satisfaction. Probably more than you should.
Of all the disturbing things, Syril stalking Dedra outside her work was the most uncomfortable thing I've watched, because I've been been in that exact position and had a Syril do that to me. It doesn't matter how powerful or scary or evil a person is - stalking makes them feel small
@@Kryptomi It’s implicit. You responding to her talking about dealing with a stalker by saying the feeling of unease is based on a fals belief, and that things are actually safe, which they often aren’t, especially in that scenario.
@@Kryptomi bro i get what ur tryna say but it just straight up doesn't work like that. the belief system and the reality of the situation cannot be separated. obviously not all men are predators but it's human nature to calculate risk. considering the majority of violent crimes are committed by men, especially one known to the victim, it would make sense to watch out for red flags, like invading boundaries. it's the fact that this happens so much that would lead to such a "belief system." and i don't agree that taking precautions to avoid being a victim is self-victimizing. if women weren't careful, you'd find a way to say they are complicit or at fault for the crime
This episode made my skin crawl in the best way possible. Every scene had me thinking the Empire couldn't be any worse, or no one is as horrible as this character, and then the next scene would somehow top it. It was exhausting--again, in the best way possible.
There was so much in this episode that I was just not ready for, I loved it! Vel being revealed to be Mon Mothma's cousin, coming from a well to do background but still deciding to get down and dirty to stick it to the empire added so much more to her character. I'm so interested to see more of her now. Dedra Meero being legitimately evil is also shaping up to be great. She's really shows the kind of mentality one needs to get as high up in the empire as she is, and how far reaching and terrifying the power of the ISB is. Also props to the actor for Doctor Gorst, his casual friendly approach to approach just made him seem properly unhinged. And finally, what can I even say about Andy Serkis. The man is legitimately one of the best actors. The shift in Kino's perspective was so intense to me. Also, felt really bad for Ulaf. It was so god damn tragic.
I knew something was up when Cinta made that comment towards Vel implying that she was someone that came from money last episode. I didn't expect Vel to be directly related to Mon, but still a cool reveal
That finale line with there only being 12 guards. Prison break! Surprised we may see Andy serkis’ character get a redemption arc. Edit: fixed the spelling mistake.
Each episode gets more and more claustrophobic than the next. I love it! This show reminds me of a modern day dystopia society '80s film like The Running Man, Robocop, and Total Recall.
God I love this show. It's already my favourite Star Wars thing and we still have 3 episodes left and I have no doubt they'll all be as excellent as the previous 9
Some notes: Imperial Military Intelligence, distinct & sometime competitor of the ISB, is mentioned by Major Partagaz in the meeting. Captain Tigo has been promoted, his three blue squares on his rank badge are now four. But he still takes his cues from Lt. Supervisor Meero, which lends to the idea that the ISB holds more power (at least politically) than their military counterparts, as seen by Admiral Yulareen himself moving to the agency. The door closing cutaway as Bix is being tortured is very reminiscent & pays homage of the same scene from A New Hope. Andor’s team won as seen as them eating with plates. Sent from my iSB
I loved watching Kino working through fear, to anger, to “twelve.” I wonder if Mothma’s new criminal connections might help her in the short term, making it seem like the money laundering is routine corruption and not rebellion.
The doctor at the beginning who's very passionate and seemingly eager to describe in detail the horrors of his work felt like the imperial version of Nemik. Like, he could have been a harmless audio engineer of some kind. Just like Nemik could have probably been a great poet or politician. But the empire turned both of them into what they had to be, not what they wanted to be.
@@Joez310 Yeah super awkward right? But to be fair. It seems he was more simping over her mission and her actions than her herself. Crazy awkward and weird...and for that reason...realistic.
@@benjaminroe311ify i got the feeling too, he's obsessed with capturing Andor so he admires and obsesses over anything that is taking active measures in doing so.
Honestly I feel like he was trying to get something from that interaction, not her, but information or another chance to redeem himself, he’s definitely playing a game
This was… the bleakest and darkest Star Wars has ever been… and strangely also the most hopeful. Most of the episode just felt too real, and that was depressing and honestly horrifying. And yet the character arc of Andy Serkis had me pumping my fist for what’s to come next.
Dedra has faced a lot of misogyny in the ISB ranks but you could tell she was taken aback by Syril's display of inceldom. That was new to her. I swear that was worse than Ser Christon Cole.
I don't know if it's misogyny she's facing, as that's not been much shown as much of a problem in the _Star Wars_ galaxy. I think her superior mentioned that she came from a different career background, and that that might prove troublesome. But I agree that her experiences can at least be allegorical thanks to her being the only woman in the room, and that Syril's deranged, obsessive dialogue in the stalking scene freaked me out.
RE the hand rails. 1] There are handrails in ANH's DS elevator scene. There are handrails in RO on the top of Scarif's tower controls. 2] After the inmates use the handrails to escape next episode the Empire starts to dismantle them all and then omit them from future designs. LOL.
In the Star Wars Radio Drama, Darth Vader goes so far as to torture Princess Leia using mind suggestion that her very skin will burn off if she does not tell him where the Death Star plans are. It is horrifying to hear this interrogation via this radio drama, but it sure shows the length the Empire will go to to get what they want. Everyone should give the radio drama a listen. It has Mark Hamill and Anthony Daniels doing their own voice work as well.
So great. I am really glad they brought Andy Serkis aboard (and actually use him well this time). He is so great in this role. Everyone and everything in this show is great. I wonder if the prison break and the uprising on Ferrix will hapenn next episode or if Ferrix will wait.
That scene between Syril and Dedra was incredibly unsettling to me. As creepy as it was to wait outside the ISB for who knows how long on the chance a single specific person would pass by, I can’t help but feel bad. I myself have actually been in Karn’s place before, unfortunately: things just didn’t work out, I had a hard time connecting with my peers, and just one random girl actually taking interest in something I was involved was enough to make me not leave them alone. In the end, I drove them off and started over from square one. I really hope Syril can catch himself before he ends up ruining his life again, and I appreciate Dedra making it clear she doesn’t tolerate this kind of behavior.
I love how Andy Serkiss just wanted to be that guy who keeps his head down and gets out, but upon learning theres no escape from the Empire he immediately says how many guards 😂
Week after week, Andor is absolutely killing it! This show is next level good. It's everything I've ever wanted from Star Wars. The writing, the acting, the characters. I can't get enough.
I think that Cyril is on a totally different trajectory from what we first thought and right now it could go anywhere from marrying into the ISB family to being hung outside of his mother's house and I'm loving the genuine mystery.
This show is becoming one of my favorite shows of all time so fast it's not even funny😅 And Andy Serkis... idk how much longer he's going to be in the show but if he keeps this up till the end we could see a surprise Emmy nomination.
For the Q&A: Given the mentions of many traditions, Mon' and Perrin's arranged marriage, and Perrin assuming Vel was straight, do you think Chandrila has a society close to what we on Earth would call conservative? I don't think it would be relevant to the plot of _Andor,_ but it's always interesting to see cultural differences in a universe where most people speak the same language, use the same technology, and even have the same colour of sky.
I don’t know if it’s me but that Syril and Dedra scene at the ISB HQ actually made me giggle so hard. Probably the most creepy, yet hilarious part of the episode. XD
The fact Cyril was, again, rejected yet....he still had that half smile as Dedra walked again... yikes... what stalker-crazy level will he go to next? Whole thing was just so uncomfortable, creepy but threatening as Cyril never seemed to even blink at the threats Dedra gave him about being arrested.
@@dafunkester Or he's convinced himself the attraction is mutual. After all from his perspective, she's the one who gave him that promotion. He probably thinks that even after she clarifies it.
@@dafunkester I think in the mind of someone who's that obsessed all he sees is that she got him promoted & she might be "saying" she could have him arrested but she hasn't, in his twisted mind that means she doesn't mean it & just playing hard ball to see how much he really "wants" it. Scary but this is how some real people are unfortunately
@@QuinchGaming That's a good point. I found it startling that he admitted that he had been waiting at other times too -- he wasn't embarrassed to say so, and didn't think it would bother her. It didn't occur to me that even her rejection may not have registered in his mind for what it was. I thought something cruel about her treatment of civilians might drive Syril to the other side, but now I have no idea what might happen with him.
I really think Leida has rebel tendencies, and she thinks Perrin would be more sympathetic when it's her Senator mom that would be. And I think it will come back to bite her. Irony.
Yes! Finally someone noticed about Dedra's aide/assistanr stepping up during the ISB meeting It might be normal in any circumstances, due to the guy's rank or position, but with the warning from Major Partagaz to Dedra. I think its highly likely that the assistant will be stabbing her in the back for a promotion Watching your back might have a couple of meanings, but its always your 'teammates' who decide to make the action to betray you or not.
This episode was so good. We thought we had seen the horror of the Empire before, but this episode went even further. It was easy to forget before that Meero is basically in the sci-fi gestapo; not anymore. The prison was bleak enough, now it’s worse. That final scene, just amazing. Can’t wait for episode 10!
Great review. The East Germany feel of the Coruscant scenes is fascinating. The ISB is great too, we're seeing a much better representation of the Empire here than elsewhere, its refreshing, adds to the struggle of the heroes. I think this episode has surpassed one with the heist for me (although I think I still like the heist arc over this one) . Even though we know Andor will make it out of the prison, (with Melshi), I can't wait to see how and who else makes it or dies.
it's getting better by the episode. Star Wars fans have been crying out for stories without lightsabres in this massive universe. For me, this is what I've been waiting for. The torturing doctor reminds of a younger Rik Mayall & Hugh Laurie.
I love stories about Jedi and sith too. But this is something new and fresh and with good characters and writing. That's why this series is so fantastic 👌
@@busydarthnooox8290 I like the slow burn. I like plot development and character arcs. I don't understand those that just want battles and action only. I could get that with a video game. I'm hoping for a huge (action) pay off at the end though .
Great, now I can't *not* think of Rik Mayall's character (P)Rick from The Young Ones delivering that cheery genocide soliloquy. And Vyvyan Bastard replacing Saw. And Neil would be Nemik, I guess...
Great breakdown, great episode. I love this show!! And your "handrails" comment was absolutely hilarious!! Love it! I also really love the acting of whoever is playing the role of Dedra. They make us root for her, then hate and fear her--all while she delivers her lines with a twisted sardonic wit. I mean, just look at that wry smirk on her face in that still frame shot as you are talking about her--it is pure perfection. It gives me chills. Your breakdown was excellent in many ways, but she was not trying to "sanitize the torture"--rather she was very much enjoying her little moment of sadistic dark humor. and often she is just so casual and cold about it too. It is just so well done. And, honestly, we kind of enjoy it too in spite of ourselves at least until we are jolted back into the reality of being horrified by torture just seconds later. Very well written. The nice guy demeanor of Gorscht really did kind of throw me at first though. Obviously, just another layer of dark humor they added. Honestly IMO there was so much going on in this episode and well done with so many layers to it all--this was my favorite episode by far. Ironic how you felt so differently.
The best part of this episode was Kino's personal arc. The entire episode his faith in the system was slowly cracking, but he was in denial. Clinging desperately to the promise of release at the end of his sentence, refusing to listen to, and shouting down anyone who suggested otherwise. Witnessing the death of Ulaf, someone who was so close to finishing his sentence finally shattered Kino's hope of the Imps ever letting him out. I don't know if Kino will escape the prison alive. Probably not. Either way, I think he's going to be the one to do the most damage on the way out, and the guards will feel his rage.
I don't get how they thought they could hide the fact they were going to move prisoners to different levels. Clearly they would immediately tell everyone they were just released from a different floor
I’ve seen it theorized that it should have been to a different prison where conditions are harsher such that no hope exists, and they all know they are lifers. When Andor arrived, there was an implication they were getting sloppy with procedure, so instead of transferring the prisoner out, he was readmitted to level 2.
I did a course called Visualisation of Politics in tv, and while we normally just did Borgen or House of Cards or something like that, the kind of concepts and even literary works (let alone Star Wars' many historical allegories) that this series uses makes it ripe for analysis. This prison is the epitome of Foucault's Panopticon. It is meant to pit prisoners against each other, where they perform 'self-discipline' against each other without the masterminds having to do anything. All you need is the fear of surveillance, the threat of being observed breaking the rules, so that prisoners self-discipline instead of those in power having to do it themselves. There's been plenty classics that also deal with the different ways people react to authoritarianism and prison systems, thinking that playing the game can get them ahead, like Kino. I mean most famously of course is Soviet Union's Gulags, and their surveillance state. Many authoritarian states use blunt power, but they also use huge networks of informants, like the Stasi were famous for.
Panopticon is the shape of the building, right? Just realized Kino is like Keeno, the gambling game, though I don’t know how it’s played. Can’t be an accident, can it?
I've been unsure the last few episodes that Syril really is going to be concretely joining the Empire, and this episode clinched it for me. Syril's been slowly snapping ever since Cassian humiliated him, getting more and more obsessive, erratic and unsettling. Here we see him latching onto anyone and anything who could give him the vindication he thinks he deserves, and it's going to snowball. More and more I'm starting to think Syril isn't the Imperial's ace in the hole. He's the evil wild card. He's going to do something crazy and elaborate to get revenge on Cassian and/or get Dedra's/the ISB's approval, which will simultaneously make things even worse for Cassian while also ruining the ISB's plans, leading to a more chaotic climax. Like, for instance: the ISB is overlooking Maarva and think they can use her as bait, so they're hanging back and leaving her be for now as part of their plan. But Syril maybe forces a confrontation by storming to Ferrix and trying to kill her or kidnap her or something or something ruining their operation, Maarva escapes but now has the perfect impetus to trigger her rebel plan, leading to the Empire cracking down as things fly out of control, then the riots leading up to Cassian's return, etc. It's just one possible way it goes down, but I'm wagering now on Syril being the fool who accidentally knocks the board over (again) in his lust for validation.
I absolutely loved this episode. I know we didn't have Luthen or Saw, but they put episode 9 on Andy Serkis's shoulders knowing he could elevate it 100%.
This arc is so damn good. I know it builds a bit off of the other arcs that have established the characters, but this has been thrilling on a whole new level
This is the first piece of Star Wars media I've seen that shows us WHY there is a rebellion. It's also nice to see Star Wars get back to critiquing the oppression present in the real world. If you don't feel the oppression, it's because you're with the Empire. This show works best when it makes you ask "Are we the baddies?"
Many have been speculating about what parts they are making in the prison. Another content creator had a unusual but intriguing suggestion. WHAT IF ... when the parts are completed stacked and trollied into a portal, and then into the next room ... the parts then are trollied out by the crew in that room and their job is to disassemble the parts. Rinse, Repeat! 😲 It's far fetched and has a lot of holes, but wouldn't that be the perfect mind f#%k ?
This is a great show. It does such an incredible job of painting the evil oppression of the empire. Dedre’s description of the torture device was so brutal and heartbreaking.
I think anyone living in a civilized country, but especially America, has been plotting how to escape before our boy Andor ever stepped in a bare foot in that prison. I love this series because it make me hate the Empire. Before it, the Empire was just a political party. Now, give me a gun and let's get it done.
This show has had like three climaxes already 😂 First the arrival of the Corporate Security on Ferrix, then the Aldanhi heist and now the ensuing prison escape 😂 where was this level of writing in Kenobi and Book of Boba Fett?
I thought it was a best episode yet. Lots of twists, especially at the end were great. I felt the pressure is really ramping up for all sides, just in time for the last three episodes. Can't wait for them, it's going to fantastic.
My favorite part about the last two episodes is the reality of organization in a revolution. Saw Guerrera, a black market dealer, a senator, her rich girl cousin, a rich thug, prison inmates, prison inmate manager, poor people like Bix & Andor just trying to survive. All of them having different motives yet joining together to overthrow the same enemy. This is the reality of the overthrowing of an oppressive regime. It's never one clear ideology but different types & different moving parts working together to foment one revolution. It's beautiful
At this point, I'm pretty sure Andor has surpassed Rogue One and is now butting heads with Empire for the title of 'best Star Wars thing ever made'. That's something I absolutely did not expect from 2022.
I think, as a result of Andor using the railings in the prison break, the empire put out a memo TO ALL PRISONS in the EMPIRE: ELECTRIFY OR REMOVE ALL RAILINGS. Then, someone accidentally transposed the memo to "ALL PERSONS in the EMPIRE:" and the memo was distributed as such. From that point on, all railings were removed throughout the empire to save money, and because in most cases, it's a little safer to have no railing, than to have an electric one. It's the empire... nobody asks questions, nobody gets force choked.
I wonder if Kino's name comes from John Steinbeck's The Pearl? A man named Kino tries to sell this beautiful Pearl through legitimate means and is constantly battered down by the systems he's caught within.
I love how the audience feels the same confusion the inmates are feeling. Thanks to the editing and music. Something unsettling is going on somewhere in the prison, but you're not sure what.
And once again, I think this show is only getting better. I really loved this episode, even more than episode 8. As much as I enjoy almost all Star Wars content, this show is just so much fun and so captivating.
I honestly expected Kino to be one of those gruff "kill or be killed" tough dog types who didn't care for others just his own skin, but I love seeing him genuinely care for his men.
Dude, Andy Serkis didn't even blink during the "on program, rumor" scene. One shot. No blinking. Nothing for our attention to be distracted by. Genius actor.
I’ve noticed the handrails too! There were some on the Aldani base as well. Does this mean that canonically, the Empire started to cut on handrails gradually to save cost as they fought the rebellion?
I personally think that The Torture isn't actually the screams of Dying children. While that is totally in The Empire's wheelhouse, I think its just as likely that they build a little narrative about what the subject will hear and then either leave them in silence, play space white noise, or play something that is outside of standard hearing but still has a feel you'd notice/
I thought this episode was slightly better than last week’s (and I thought last week’s was superb). The stark illustration of what sort of things the empire would be capable of if they were real was quite shocking in the context of a starwars show, and it just felt better paced with more things going on than last week.
I really "liked" the parallels between Narkina 5 and Metropolis: day shift in, night shift out, all work, no joy + the ISB playing the role of Nazi Germany's GeStaPo... :0
I love how Andor has been showing what circumstances drive men like Kino Loy to take action against the system that has been keeping them in their place.
I love this episode! My favourite so far! Although, I’m not sure I agree with you that the break out will be next episode! I think it will begin -but we may not see all of it. I think it could go on for another episode after that for sure. And whilst it will be great, there will be a lot of collateral and tragedy too. This show really knows how to show the suffering the regular person endures under the empire and I don’t think the escape will necessarily have the same fist pumping victorious tone that we expect from regular Star Wars. This show is more nuanced and dark and shows a lot more of the ‘grey’ I think the escape could be really emotional in lots of different ways.
"Never more than twelve". I'm so ridiculously hyped for the inevitable breakout. Andy Serkis totally stole the show this episode.
That line felt like more of a pay off than all of episode 6, like jeez what good writing
@@Benjamin_Gilbert-Lif "Never more than twelve". That is great writing isn't it. He's actually been paying more attention than Andor, probably knew all along it was going to end like this
I was certain that the answer to that question was going to be “Seven.”
The fact that he responds immediately with that means he's always been looking, counting, always planning but never took it further because he always thought he would just serve his time and get out. Now he knows, for sure, that's not going to happen he's going to put all those years of knowledge to Andors plan.
The progression of him from not wanting to answer to immediately responding was so good. Kino is a great character... I'm looking forward to seeing him turning into Snoke. /s
This episode was dark as hell. A torture device that uses the dying screams of alien children. An entire level of prisoners electrocuted to death. And an old man being euthanized after a stroke. Really messed up stuff.
possibly the realest episode of star wars
thanks for the spoilers. Now I’m going to have to wake up at 3 AM just to avoid the same thing happening again 🤓
@@thedarkknight5239 You tuned into a “review “ of the episode before watching the episode? Why?
Literally. This whole series feels like SW only in name and a few settings / references, cos the dystopian aspects of daily life (fashion, cities, settings, etc) along with the super dark tone u mentioned makes it feel more like a 1984 spin off or WW2 film in Nazi France
@@besgarknightshade3241 Because he's BATMAN!
The worst part of this show is that every episode ends
Yes, it is always frustrating! I wish I had waited until the series was complete so I could binge the whole thing, but too late now. 🙂
True, but I enjoy the excitement I get every week!
Show ends and ten minutes of credits
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No, very well written and crafted. This may be the best Star Wars series made under Disney's ownership.
@@saraloking5993 lol, already started rewatching. Accidental as we were getting our daughter started, and when she had to leave we just kept rewatching… Highly suggested, you’ll see a whole lot more.
Andy Serkis is so good at being casually aggressive. His face shows so much emotion.
Especially being outside of the MCS
I love that we're in this Andy Serkissance
Getting a good role in Star Wars, the LOTR audiobooks, Alfred
After so much motion capture work, he’s a master at using his face
It also help that you can clearly see him sweating as he tries to keep everyone calm when everyone is trying to figure out what is happening.
They should really jump on that and make characters based on his face
Kino's arc, for such a small character in a short time, is shockingly good. You can tell exactly how he thinks and how his mind is changed just by watching him react to external events. Amazing acting from Serkis.
Right!? This show is so impressive!
"Shocking" indeed
Every character in this show is done well. Even the inconsequential background characters manage to feel like people.
Kino is the highlight of this episode for me loved his development
Exactly. His character developement in the last ten minutes of the episode is greater than all characters in kenobi.
"Never more than 12." Absolutely amazing episode.
Stunning ending, I'm so hyped for the next one I just wish I could help them escape ahahaha
That line was so hype! It was perfect! No notes. I’m ready to see this prison break!!!
I don’t wanna wait another week man 😩
Great episode though
@@pietropietro5466 I have friends who sat around figuring out how to defeat electric floors. It's really easy but getting up to the security level will be the big one.
Glad you noticed the handrails, I'm hoping that the handrails are key to the prison break, then we can have an important scene where the Senate passes a law removing handrail requirements from Imperial safety standards, setting us up for the design of the Death Star.
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Hi Scott, happy to see you here lol
The crossover I never thought I'd see!
Seeing Kino finally crack, and realize that he's in as much a hopeless situation as the others was the most satisfying thing for me. The lightbulb above his head finally went on, and now, here's where the fun begins.
And I'd give anything for an outtake of Serkis looking at Garcia and saying, "My precious." 🤣
ngl I read "seeing kino finally crack" and thought you were calling this was the first bad episode before I did a double-take 💀
Ngl idk if kino was apathetic i think he really did care and truly believed it was best just to play nice and do the time hes seen plenty people die.
Once he sawthe old man put down and realized its all a lie he showed genuine disgust and anger.
Thats not selfishness thats genuine HATRED
@@mondaysinsanity8193 I'm not suggesting at all he was apathetic. He was trying to survive just as much as all of them. He chose a different route, and then when it really hit the fan, he realized he needed to change his course of action.
If he even says the word "precious" I'll fall out of my chair. Better would be if the yet-to-be-shown pilot the Empire caught is Tom Hardy. Let the ball-busting begin gentlemen. You're the bait.
@@Kenobi_Cowboy 🤣🤣🤣🤣 Like I mentioned, only if it's an outtake.
This episode was just terrifying. The brutality and evilness of Imperial methods and oppression shown in this episode was well displayed. Andy Serkis character from full confidence to hopelessness after the realization that nobody is getting out of the prison was top notch acting.
DEDRA IS SUCH A GOOD VILLAIN! SHE SCARES ME! DENISE GOUGH IS DOING A TREMENDOUS JOB!
Additionally, Genevieve O'Reilly is killing is as Mon Mothma! She's been superb ever since episode 4!
First few episodes you are rooting for her to move up in a messed up bureaucracy but now she has revealed her true evil nature great writing.
Dedra is a true believer. Dedra actually believes the Empire *should* incarcerate, enslave, murder, and torture the galaxy into submission.
I see people compaining about the show being boring because nothing happens. Maybe I'm watching a different show, but these episodes are so packed with stuff happening that it's difficult to pick it all up on the first vewing.
Andor is just as - if not more - intense and action-packed as the other live action works. What makes it look “boring” is that it’s action is defined differently, using the lingering tension and clash of ideologies as an alternative to death and explosions. You can fight someone without ever pulling a trigger, and this show perfectly encapsulates that. I wish more people could understand that.
It must be at least one TIE fighter that does some PEW PEW every five minutes or they lose their focus.
@@alpacawizardman6778 They're too dumb to understand that, simpletons want endless action and that's it.
Andor is Star Wars for adults. The complainers should go to their rooms and play with their Legos while the grown ups enjoy the show.
It's definitely alot slower than I'd like but still one of my favorite pieces of starwars media.
That camera move when they cut away from Bix's torture scene is the best kind of fan service. There's absolutely no way anybody who didn't recognize it would feel left out, but if you do recognize it, you feel an immense sense of satisfaction. Probably more than you should.
whats it from, Leia in a new hope?
Instantly recognised that aha, even the same sounds
@@wisegamer706 If you know, you know
That was a suprisingly satisfying nod to the classic's cinematography
I’m glad to see someone talking about this because it was a really powerful homage in my opinion.
"Never more than twelve."
The quiet rage in that line.
Andy Serkis acting in this episode was amazing you could see it In his eyes
more kudos to the camera guy and cinematography ! and of course the editing team !! powerful and imoactful framing of subjects especially Serkis!!
That was epic acting. If this show doesn’t get at least a few Emmy nominations (or whatever streaming content awards are equivalent to Emmys).
"were cheaper than droids and easier to replace " great line
Gorst giving Bix a cheerful wave hello before using the sounds of dying alien children to melt her brain sure was something
The audio recordings of a genocide no less. What a monster.
Of all the disturbing things, Syril stalking Dedra outside her work was the most uncomfortable thing I've watched, because I've been been in that exact position and had a Syril do that to me. It doesn't matter how powerful or scary or evil a person is - stalking makes them feel small
@@Kryptomi bro have you seen the statistics of violent crimes against women?
Yeah I;m not going to be surprised if the season ends with Syril's mom dead and her body tossed over the side of a railing into the underworld.
@@Kryptomi It’s implicit. You responding to her talking about dealing with a stalker by saying the feeling of unease is based on a fals belief, and that things are actually safe, which they often aren’t, especially in that scenario.
@@Kryptomi bro i get what ur tryna say but it just straight up doesn't work like that. the belief system and the reality of the situation cannot be separated. obviously not all men are predators but it's human nature to calculate risk. considering the majority of violent crimes are committed by men, especially one known to the victim, it would make sense to watch out for red flags, like invading boundaries. it's the fact that this happens so much that would lead to such a "belief system." and i don't agree that taking precautions to avoid being a victim is self-victimizing. if women weren't careful, you'd find a way to say they are complicit or at fault for the crime
nobody cares, sow
This episode made my skin crawl in the best way possible. Every scene had me thinking the Empire couldn't be any worse, or no one is as horrible as this character, and then the next scene would somehow top it. It was exhausting--again, in the best way possible.
There was so much in this episode that I was just not ready for, I loved it!
Vel being revealed to be Mon Mothma's cousin, coming from a well to do background but still deciding to get down and dirty to stick it to the empire added so much more to her character. I'm so interested to see more of her now.
Dedra Meero being legitimately evil is also shaping up to be great. She's really shows the kind of mentality one needs to get as high up in the empire as she is, and how far reaching and terrifying the power of the ISB is. Also props to the actor for Doctor Gorst, his casual friendly approach to approach just made him seem properly unhinged.
And finally, what can I even say about Andy Serkis. The man is legitimately one of the best actors. The shift in Kino's perspective was so intense to me. Also, felt really bad for Ulaf. It was so god damn tragic.
Vel is Mon' cousin.
I knew something was up when Cinta made that comment towards Vel implying that she was someone that came from money last episode. I didn't expect Vel to be directly related to Mon, but still a cool reveal
That finale line with there only being 12 guards. Prison break! Surprised we may see Andy serkis’ character get a redemption arc.
Edit: fixed the spelling mistake.
It makes me happy that you've gone your whole life thinking his last name is "Circus"
circus lmao 😂
His redemption will be Cassian giving him one in the back of the head there's no forgiveness for his type in a rebellion.
@@Paul-vf2wl Okay
God damn auto correct
Each episode gets more and more claustrophobic than the next. I love it! This show reminds me of a modern day dystopia society '80s film like The Running Man, Robocop, and Total Recall.
I think the prison scenes parallel THX-1138... Which is kind of fitting.
@@ricksherman34 The original Lucas. Good reference!
God I love this show. It's already my favourite Star Wars thing and we still have 3 episodes left and I have no doubt they'll all be as excellent as the previous 9
I don’t think a line in a Star Wars show has ever hyped me up as much as “never more than 12” did
The Kino arc was so suspenseful you can feel the fear and hopelessness in him in this episode, where everything he did was for nothing
Some notes:
Imperial Military Intelligence, distinct & sometime competitor of the ISB, is mentioned by Major Partagaz in the meeting. Captain Tigo has been promoted, his three blue squares on his rank badge are now four. But he still takes his cues from Lt. Supervisor Meero, which lends to the idea that the ISB holds more power (at least politically) than their military counterparts, as seen by Admiral Yulareen himself moving to the agency.
The door closing cutaway as Bix is being tortured is very reminiscent & pays homage of the same scene from A New Hope.
Andor’s team won as seen as them eating with plates.
Sent from my iSB
Also Blevin hasn’t been seen for two months. Guess he’s gotten that good demotion.
Stop with the spoilers. I’m going to have to shut down the ISB
I was so happy to hear that Imperial Intelligence still exists.
Worth noting they always eat with plates, its just whether u get taste inserted or not for winning
I loved watching Kino working through fear, to anger, to “twelve.” I wonder if Mothma’s new criminal connections might help her in the short term, making it seem like the money laundering is routine corruption and not rebellion.
She needs someone like Saul Goodman to help her expertly hide the money.
@@georgevanhoose6333 Exactly. I'd love if the criminal she meets is played by Bob Odenkirk
The doctor at the beginning who's very passionate and seemingly eager to describe in detail the horrors of his work felt like the imperial version of Nemik. Like, he could have been a harmless audio engineer of some kind. Just like Nemik could have probably been a great poet or politician. But the empire turned both of them into what they had to be, not what they wanted to be.
@@imjashingyou3461 Yeah, true
@@imjashingyou3461 Meanwhile they forced her to listen to Nickleback and Barry Manilow.
That scene between Dedra and Syril was hilarious. Probably the first time Dedra broke character and reacted like a normal human.
Can’t believe Syril had turned into a stalking simp lord 💀
@@Joez310 Yeah super awkward right? But to be fair. It seems he was more simping over her mission and her actions than her herself. Crazy awkward and weird...and for that reason...realistic.
They both simping for Andor 🤣🤣
@@benjaminroe311ify i got the feeling too, he's obsessed with capturing Andor so he admires and obsesses over anything that is taking active measures in doing so.
Honestly I feel like he was trying to get something from that interaction, not her, but information or another chance to redeem himself, he’s definitely playing a game
This was… the bleakest and darkest Star Wars has ever been… and strangely also the most hopeful. Most of the episode just felt too real, and that was depressing and honestly horrifying. And yet the character arc of Andy Serkis had me pumping my fist for what’s to come next.
andor: nobody's listening!
dr gorst: i got something here for you to listen to.
This comment wins....
10/10 comment
Lol 10/10
Dedra has faced a lot of misogyny in the ISB ranks but you could tell she was taken aback by Syril's display of inceldom. That was new to her. I swear that was worse than Ser Christon Cole.
Lol. Dude's simping hard.
I don't know if it's misogyny she's facing, as that's not been much shown as much of a problem in the _Star Wars_ galaxy. I think her superior mentioned that she came from a different career background, and that that might prove troublesome.
But I agree that her experiences can at least be allegorical thanks to her being the only woman in the room, and that Syril's deranged, obsessive dialogue in the stalking scene freaked me out.
@@Kryptomi boooo
@@Kryptomi I think it’s you that chooses NOT to see it.
By Syril and her lackey who are getting overzealous in their duties
RE the hand rails. 1] There are handrails in ANH's DS elevator scene. There are handrails in RO on the top of Scarif's tower controls. 2] After the inmates use the handrails to escape next episode the Empire starts to dismantle them all and then omit them from future designs. LOL.
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
In the Star Wars Radio Drama, Darth Vader goes so far as to torture Princess Leia using mind suggestion that her very skin will burn off if she does not tell him where the Death Star plans are. It is horrifying to hear this interrogation via this radio drama, but it sure shows the length the Empire will go to to get what they want. Everyone should give the radio drama a listen. It has Mark Hamill and Anthony Daniels doing their own voice work as well.
I have distant memories of the radio show being excellent and containing lots of good material not in the film
So great. I am really glad they brought Andy Serkis aboard (and actually use him well this time). He is so great in this role. Everyone and everything in this show is great. I wonder if the prison break and the uprising on Ferrix will hapenn next episode or if Ferrix will wait.
I expect the Ferrix uprising will be the two-part finale episodes!
That was crazy. I loved it especially that dinner scene with Mon and Vel
That was something I didn't see coming! Great story telling!
I was surprised they were cousins! It was a great way to connect the characters!!
The senator's daughter is Cute!🙂🤗🤗🤗🥰🥰!! “ it fits”☺️☺️!!
That scene between Syril and Dedra was incredibly unsettling to me. As creepy as it was to wait outside the ISB for who knows how long on the chance a single specific person would pass by, I can’t help but feel bad. I myself have actually been in Karn’s place before, unfortunately: things just didn’t work out, I had a hard time connecting with my peers, and just one random girl actually taking interest in something I was involved was enough to make me not leave them alone. In the end, I drove them off and started over from square one. I really hope Syril can catch himself before he ends up ruining his life again, and I appreciate Dedra making it clear she doesn’t tolerate this kind of behavior.
glad you recognised this about yourself and hopefully have work on yourself to be better, its the best way to get someone attention
I love how Andy Serkiss just wanted to be that guy who keeps his head down and gets out, but upon learning theres no escape from the Empire he immediately says how many guards 😂
To have it all unravelling at about the same time that Ulaf dies before being released, seems to have brought him home to him.
Week after week, Andor is absolutely killing it! This show is next level good. It's everything I've ever wanted from Star Wars. The writing, the acting, the characters. I can't get enough.
I think that Cyril is on a totally different trajectory from what we first thought and right now it could go anywhere from marrying into the ISB family to being hung outside of his mother's house and I'm loving the genuine mystery.
Watch him go full rebel. That's my guess.
@@Kenobi_Cowboy I'm beginning to think that as well !
This show is becoming one of my favorite shows of all time so fast it's not even funny😅
And Andy Serkis... idk how much longer he's going to be in the show but if he keeps this up till the end we could see a surprise Emmy nomination.
I'd nominate Forest Whitaker for the 90 seconds (?) he was in the previous episode
@@ChrisHodgsonCorben-Dallas Human cultists!
@@ChrisHodgsonCorben-Dallas lmao I agree but Andy is another level of great
No Jedi. No Skywalkers. Just people. This series is amazing.
@@Kenobi_Cowboy indeed it is
For the Q&A: Given the mentions of many traditions, Mon' and Perrin's arranged marriage, and Perrin assuming Vel was straight, do you think Chandrila has a society close to what we on Earth would call conservative? I don't think it would be relevant to the plot of _Andor,_ but it's always interesting to see cultural differences in a universe where most people speak the same language, use the same technology, and even have the same colour of sky.
I don’t know if it’s me but that Syril and Dedra scene at the ISB HQ actually made me giggle so hard. Probably the most creepy, yet hilarious part of the episode. XD
Nah dude I was pissing myself laughing
Ikr. 😂🤣 Bro literally went into full-simp mode.
Dude's radiating simp energy. Lmao
@@princetonchia1285 I think Syril Karn is a Simp Lord.
I... don't think that's the tone that they were aiming for.
The fact Cyril was, again, rejected yet....he still had that half smile as Dedra walked again... yikes... what stalker-crazy level will he go to next? Whole thing was just so uncomfortable, creepy but threatening as Cyril never seemed to even blink at the threats Dedra gave him about being arrested.
I think Uncle Harlow might have his back and that's why Cyril doesn't care about Dedra's threat's about having him arrested.
@@dafunkester Or he's convinced himself the attraction is mutual. After all from his perspective, she's the one who gave him that promotion. He probably thinks that even after she clarifies it.
@@dafunkester I think in the mind of someone who's that obsessed all he sees is that she got him promoted & she might be "saying" she could have him arrested but she hasn't, in his twisted mind that means she doesn't mean it & just playing hard ball to see how much he really "wants" it. Scary but this is how some real people are unfortunately
@@dafunkester Harlow's World was a thing right?
@@QuinchGaming That's a good point. I found it startling that he admitted that he had been waiting at other times too -- he wasn't embarrassed to say so, and didn't think it would bother her. It didn't occur to me that even her rejection may not have registered in his mind for what it was. I thought something cruel about her treatment of civilians might drive Syril to the other side, but now I have no idea what might happen with him.
Syril and Dedra’s chemistry is so weird, I love it so much. Mommy issues for daysssssss
I really think Leida has rebel tendencies, and she thinks Perrin would be more sympathetic when it's her Senator mom that would be. And I think it will come back to bite her.
Irony.
Yes! Finally someone noticed about Dedra's aide/assistanr stepping up during the ISB meeting
It might be normal in any circumstances, due to the guy's rank or position, but with the warning from Major Partagaz to Dedra. I think its highly likely that the assistant will be stabbing her in the back for a promotion
Watching your back might have a couple of meanings, but its always your 'teammates' who decide to make the action to betray you or not.
This episode was so good. We thought we had seen the horror of the Empire before, but this episode went even further. It was easy to forget before that Meero is basically in the sci-fi gestapo; not anymore. The prison was bleak enough, now it’s worse. That final scene, just amazing. Can’t wait for episode 10!
Actually the whole prison part made this episode one of the best things in the series so far. I was really excited to see what will happen next...
Great review.
The East Germany feel of the Coruscant scenes is fascinating. The ISB is great too, we're seeing a much better representation of the Empire here than elsewhere, its refreshing, adds to the struggle of the heroes.
I think this episode has surpassed one with the heist for me (although I think I still like the heist arc over this one) . Even though we know Andor will make it out of the prison, (with Melshi), I can't wait to see how and who else makes it or dies.
Kino has more character development in two episodes than most of the prequel characters got in 3 movies
it's getting better by the episode. Star Wars fans have been crying out for stories without lightsabres in this massive universe. For me, this is what I've been waiting for. The torturing doctor reminds of a younger Rik Mayall & Hugh Laurie.
I want more lightsabers with lesser known Jedi, but this show is great too.
@@Blinkptx I reckon you'll get what you're looking for eventually. I'm one of those who wants a break from the jedi and sith for a series or two.
I love stories about Jedi and sith too. But this is something new and fresh and with good characters and writing. That's why this series is so fantastic 👌
@@busydarthnooox8290 I like the slow burn. I like plot development and character arcs. I don't understand those that just want battles and action only. I could get that with a video game. I'm hoping for a huge (action) pay off at the end though .
Great, now I can't *not* think of Rik Mayall's character (P)Rick from The Young Ones delivering that cheery genocide soliloquy. And Vyvyan Bastard replacing Saw. And Neil would be Nemik, I guess...
The acting in this episode was phenomenal Andy Serkis in particular. Bix eyes told the whole story
What I am even watching at this point? Holy crap, I was shaking by the end. How can I wait for a week to see the next episode.
"Handrails are for the weak."
Liked just for that line.
Great breakdown, great episode. I love this show!! And your "handrails" comment was absolutely hilarious!! Love it!
I also really love the acting of whoever is playing the role of Dedra. They make us root for her, then hate and fear her--all while she delivers her lines with a twisted sardonic wit. I mean, just look at that wry smirk on her face in that still frame shot as you are talking about her--it is pure perfection. It gives me chills. Your breakdown was excellent in many ways, but she was not trying to "sanitize the torture"--rather she was very much enjoying her little moment of sadistic dark humor. and often she is just so casual and cold about it too. It is just so well done. And, honestly, we kind of enjoy it too in spite of ourselves at least until we are jolted back into the reality of being horrified by torture just seconds later. Very well written. The nice guy demeanor of Gorscht really did kind of throw me at first though. Obviously, just another layer of dark humor they added. Honestly IMO there was so much going on in this episode and well done with so many layers to it all--this was my favorite episode by far. Ironic how you felt so differently.
Has anyone else noticed that this prison planet resembles Kamino and the prisoner uniforms and colors resemble the Clones?
One more thing at the ISB, they got closer to Luthen it sounds like they caught the guy he was asking Sau to help
It was a rebel pilot linked to Anton Kreegyr who got caught, not the Ox himself as Saw said.
@@Vashrix ah good point, the request was for "air support" so the guy who ended up helping him instead of Saw. I stand corrected.
I imagine Mon knows what Vel type is.
Favorite scene of the episode seeing Mon laugh in the background.
The best part of this episode was Kino's personal arc. The entire episode his faith in the system was slowly cracking, but he was in denial. Clinging desperately to the promise of release at the end of his sentence, refusing to listen to, and shouting down anyone who suggested otherwise. Witnessing the death of Ulaf, someone who was so close to finishing his sentence finally shattered Kino's hope of the Imps ever letting him out.
I don't know if Kino will escape the prison alive. Probably not. Either way, I think he's going to be the one to do the most damage on the way out, and the guards will feel his rage.
I sense something Planet of the Apes-like, only more Star Wars-y. 🙂
If Kino makes it out and joins the Rebellion I'll be looking for an action figure and animation series immediately.
This episode was the darkest of all star wars media I've seen
Using. the. dying. screems. of. CHILDREN. as. a. TORTURE. DEVICE.
I think the prisoners that make it out will follow Andor and join with the rebellion becoming the backbone of the pathfinders.
Melshi is already in Rogue One so he definitely does. Fingers crossed for the others but I feel like Kino and a lot of others will definitely die
Don't tease me!
I don't get how they thought they could hide the fact they were going to move prisoners to different levels. Clearly they would immediately tell everyone they were just released from a different floor
I’ve seen it theorized that it should have been to a different prison where conditions are harsher such that no hope exists, and they all know they are lifers. When Andor arrived, there was an implication they were getting sloppy with procedure, so instead of transferring the prisoner out, he was readmitted to level 2.
This was my first thought - it just doesn’t work to not release people if they’re trying to stop a prison riot.
I did a course called Visualisation of Politics in tv, and while we normally just did Borgen or House of Cards or something like that, the kind of concepts and even literary works (let alone Star Wars' many historical allegories) that this series uses makes it ripe for analysis. This prison is the epitome of Foucault's Panopticon. It is meant to pit prisoners against each other, where they perform 'self-discipline' against each other without the masterminds having to do anything. All you need is the fear of surveillance, the threat of being observed breaking the rules, so that prisoners self-discipline instead of those in power having to do it themselves. There's been plenty classics that also deal with the different ways people react to authoritarianism and prison systems, thinking that playing the game can get them ahead, like Kino. I mean most famously of course is Soviet Union's Gulags, and their surveillance state. Many authoritarian states use blunt power, but they also use huge networks of informants, like the Stasi were famous for.
Panopticon is the shape of the building, right?
Just realized Kino is like Keeno, the gambling game, though I don’t know how it’s played. Can’t be an accident, can it?
I've been unsure the last few episodes that Syril really is going to be concretely joining the Empire, and this episode clinched it for me. Syril's been slowly snapping ever since Cassian humiliated him, getting more and more obsessive, erratic and unsettling. Here we see him latching onto anyone and anything who could give him the vindication he thinks he deserves, and it's going to snowball.
More and more I'm starting to think Syril isn't the Imperial's ace in the hole. He's the evil wild card. He's going to do something crazy and elaborate to get revenge on Cassian and/or get Dedra's/the ISB's approval, which will simultaneously make things even worse for Cassian while also ruining the ISB's plans, leading to a more chaotic climax.
Like, for instance: the ISB is overlooking Maarva and think they can use her as bait, so they're hanging back and leaving her be for now as part of their plan. But Syril maybe forces a confrontation by storming to Ferrix and trying to kill her or kidnap her or something or something ruining their operation, Maarva escapes but now has the perfect impetus to trigger her rebel plan, leading to the Empire cracking down as things fly out of control, then the riots leading up to Cassian's return, etc. It's just one possible way it goes down, but I'm wagering now on Syril being the fool who accidentally knocks the board over (again) in his lust for validation.
This would be perfect, he skips work and goes back to Ferris one last time
Such a good episode! The prison sequences have been phenomenal. It seems to me that this is the arc that will really turn Cassian against the Empire.
I absolutely loved this episode. I know we didn't have Luthen or Saw, but they put episode 9 on Andy Serkis's shoulders knowing he could elevate it 100%.
Andy Serkis and actress for Dedra are highlights of this episode! Can't wait for ep 10!!!
This arc is so damn good. I know it builds a bit off of the other arcs that have established the characters, but this has been thrilling on a whole new level
This is the first piece of Star Wars media I've seen that shows us WHY there is a rebellion. It's also nice to see Star Wars get back to critiquing the oppression present in the real world. If you don't feel the oppression, it's because you're with the Empire. This show works best when it makes you ask "Are we the baddies?"
Many have been speculating about what parts they are making in the prison. Another content creator had a unusual but intriguing suggestion. WHAT IF ... when the parts are completed stacked and trollied into a portal, and then into the next room ... the parts then are trollied out by the crew in that room and their job is to disassemble the parts. Rinse, Repeat! 😲 It's far fetched and has a lot of holes, but wouldn't that be the perfect mind f#%k ?
Definitely the best episode so far. Even though you think it was the previous on a rewatch I think you'll see the light.
I thought this ep9 was 10 min long when it was over. It was good but it just made me hungrier for more.
This is a great show. It does such an incredible job of painting the evil oppression of the empire. Dedre’s description of the torture device was so brutal and heartbreaking.
I think anyone living in a civilized country, but especially America, has been plotting how to escape before our boy Andor ever stepped in a bare foot in that prison. I love this series because it make me hate the Empire. Before it, the Empire was just a political party. Now, give me a gun and let's get it done.
This show has had like three climaxes already 😂 First the arrival of the Corporate Security on Ferrix, then the Aldanhi heist and now the ensuing prison escape 😂 where was this level of writing in Kenobi and Book of Boba Fett?
Kenobi had different climaxes every episode, slurp less of that copium into you.
I thought it was a best episode yet. Lots of twists, especially at the end were great. I felt the pressure is really ramping up for all sides, just in time for the last three episodes. Can't wait for them, it's going to fantastic.
My favorite part about the last two episodes is the reality of organization in a revolution. Saw Guerrera, a black market dealer, a senator, her rich girl cousin, a rich thug, prison inmates, prison inmate manager, poor people like Bix & Andor just trying to survive. All of them having different motives yet joining together to overthrow the same enemy. This is the reality of the overthrowing of an oppressive regime. It's never one clear ideology but different types & different moving parts working together to foment one revolution. It's beautiful
I bet Dedra regreted helping Karn. Dude's now simping for her.
At this point, I'm pretty sure Andor has surpassed Rogue One and is now butting heads with Empire for the title of 'best Star Wars thing ever made'. That's something I absolutely did not expect from 2022.
I think, as a result of Andor using the railings in the prison break, the empire put out a memo TO ALL PRISONS in the EMPIRE: ELECTRIFY OR REMOVE ALL RAILINGS. Then, someone accidentally transposed the memo to "ALL PERSONS in the EMPIRE:" and the memo was distributed as such. From that point on, all railings were removed throughout the empire to save money, and because in most cases, it's a little safer to have no railing, than to have an electric one.
It's the empire... nobody asks questions, nobody gets force choked.
I wonder if Kino's name comes from John Steinbeck's The Pearl? A man named Kino tries to sell this beautiful Pearl through legitimate means and is constantly battered down by the systems he's caught within.
I love how the audience feels the same confusion the inmates are feeling. Thanks to the editing and music. Something unsettling is going on somewhere in the prison, but you're not sure what.
RIP Ulaf. Only had a few shifts left
Yeah a few more shifts till he was relocated to another part of the prison
@@_NIKOS9_NIKOS They probably would have killed him after noticing how ill he was anyways, but yeah
And once again, I think this show is only getting better. I really loved this episode, even more than episode 8. As much as I enjoy almost all Star Wars content, this show is just so much fun and so captivating.
The payoff the line "Never more than twelve" had for the last 2 episodes is immeasurable.
I honestly expected Kino to be one of those gruff "kill or be killed" tough dog types who didn't care for others just his own skin, but I love seeing him genuinely care for his men.
The interrogation scene with the head device reminded me of Leia in a New Hope and Poe Dameron in Force Awakens.
Dude, Andy Serkis didn't even blink during the "on program, rumor" scene. One shot. No blinking. Nothing for our attention to be distracted by. Genius actor.
i prefered this episode to the last, i like how kino can be harsh and oppressive but only because hes trying to minimise the pain his men go through
Then Nemek, now Ulaf.
Syril still killing it with his cereal.
Syril went full creepy stalker incel this episode. He can't get enough of that cereal too
I think of it as Bachelor Chow from Futurama. Their ad slogan "Now with flavor!" makes me wonder if that's where the prison "perk" came from.
I’ve noticed the handrails too! There were some on the Aldani base as well.
Does this mean that canonically, the Empire started to cut on handrails gradually to save cost as they fought the rebellion?
I personally think that The Torture isn't actually the screams of Dying children. While that is totally in The Empire's wheelhouse, I think its just as likely that they build a little narrative about what the subject will hear and then either leave them in silence, play space white noise, or play something that is outside of standard hearing but still has a feel you'd notice/
I thought this episode was slightly better than last week’s (and I thought last week’s was superb). The stark illustration of what sort of things the empire would be capable of if they were real was quite shocking in the context of a starwars show, and it just felt better paced with more things going on than last week.
The commentary on handrails in Star Wats had me rolling 😂
I really "liked" the parallels between Narkina 5 and Metropolis: day shift in, night shift out, all work, no joy + the ISB playing the role of Nazi Germany's GeStaPo... :0
I've never found myself nodding my head more at a breakdown in my life. Subscribed.
Empire strikes Back: “I am your father” scene has handrails too. I’ve wondered about that.
I love how Andor has been showing what circumstances drive men like Kino Loy to take action against the system that has been keeping them in their place.
Andor excels in the build-up. It allows the tension to rise until the eventual blow up. Damn I love this show.
I love this episode! My favourite so far! Although, I’m not sure I agree with you that the break out will be next episode! I think it will begin -but we may not see all of it. I think it could go on for another episode after that for sure. And whilst it will be great, there will be a lot of collateral and tragedy too. This show really knows how to show the suffering the regular person endures under the empire and I don’t think the escape will necessarily have the same fist pumping victorious tone that we expect from regular Star Wars. This show is more nuanced and dark and shows a lot more of the ‘grey’ I think the escape could be really emotional in lots of different ways.