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Cooking endives (chicory) gratin with ham | conquering bitterness fear

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  • @aagguujjaa
    @aagguujjaa 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Kudos on trying something you didn`t like but gave it another chance. People need to do that more often.

  • @Tintifax06
    @Tintifax06 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I love that bitterness, but I also love your way of presenting it- great recipy, great story. Love your channel 😁

  • @nicolethijs5428
    @nicolethijs5428 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    The most Belgian dish there is! You can eat it with mash patatoes but we always eat it with baguettes. Bitternes is much less these days. Its almost hard to find, witloof / endives or chicoree that still has that bitterness. Most witloof, are grown on waterbeds, these days. The better quality ones are grown in the soil. I live in Belgium in the area where we grow this a lot. So its something we make all time and you find this dish in loads of restaurants. Be warned although you can make this in advance and put it in the oven and grill it off later you are taking the chance its gets bad. The combination of the cheese, milk and the juices of the endives spoil it quit quick( it gets sour real fast)

  • @nastyHarry
    @nastyHarry 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Congratulations on how well your channel is doing! Last time I watch one of your videos you had less than 10k subscribers. I cant say I'm surprised though because I always thought your videos were of high quality

  • @francoisehembert3243
    @francoisehembert3243 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    And called “chicon” in (French speaking part of) Belgium.
    This dish is commonplace in Belgium.
    I love the bitterness !
    To remove the excess moisture my mom used a salad spinner (used gently 😄)
    And lastly, instead of black pepper, I prepare the chicons with butter, stock, and some nutmeg.

    • @thhseeking
      @thhseeking ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Plain fried in "du bon beurre" 😁

  • @panuntukan
    @panuntukan 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    For myself I usually cut each endive in two in length, to have it well braiséed inside. I try to obtain a light brown coloration (and this "caramel" taste), then I low down the heat and cover, and turn the endives upside down once in a while, delicately because they are cut, and more fragile. For my daughter, I put some fried bacon chunks on the ham before rolling the endive in it (and we call this variation "à l'alsacienne"). My daughter is crazy about this "smoky" taste. I prefer without, only with a premium ham, but I think you can try it. Maybe you will like it. Thank you Chef Stéphane ! Please go on with these "french family recipes", I am sure they are very appreciated also by your followers. I suggest you the "bavette à l'échalote". Also the story of this recipe is interesting, linked to the La Villette slaughterhouse.

  • @mariescoco
    @mariescoco 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Love your channel. Thank you for helping me explore French cooking!

  • @dselby5
    @dselby5 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I was really happy to see this, it is one of my favorite dishes. An old Dutch friend of mine used to make it. I saw it on the menu several times is restaurants in Belgium. Thank you for making this. I’m really happy to have found your channel.

  • @ello7222
    @ello7222 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Stéphane, to reduce the bitterness significantly, you should cut out the stem cone-shaped. It's a difference like day and night.

    • @WastrelWay
      @WastrelWay 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yes, he mentioned cutting out the stem, and then said he wasn't going to do it because 1) some people like the bitterness and 2) we should respect the vegetables as they are.

    • @HickoryDickory86
      @HickoryDickory86 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@WastrelWay "we should respect the vegetables as they are" Well, vegetables don't grow already wrapped in ham and cooked, so…

  • @philjordan1749
    @philjordan1749 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    "It's not that bad!" A ringing endorsement if ever I've heard one :)

    • @larsio72
      @larsio72 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Phil Jordan :-)

  • @oceanbaby4521
    @oceanbaby4521 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Beautiful recipe, and it looks like it it tastes even better! Thanks Stephan😋👩🏽‍🍳🍷♥️

    • @FrenchCookingAcademy
      @FrenchCookingAcademy  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      thanks for the feedback thinking back really the bitterness was really toned down but that bechamel sauce with the ham yum

  • @gregb3576
    @gregb3576 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love this guy! His asides set me off.

  • @misottovoce
    @misottovoce 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Of course in Flemish, they are also called Witloof. The technique of raising them similar to growing white asparagus originated in Flanders. When I lived in Antwerp (Anvers) I learned from a Flemish woman that before you remove any leaves, with a thin short knife, you core out some of the core. Then you remove a few more leaves, because some may have fallen away. Some use a bechamel sauce but she chopped the leaves, sauteed them added lots of cream and made a reduction. This took at least 1/2 hour. This reduction was strained which by now had thickened. In the meantime, the chicory were soaking submerged in water with at least one lemon of juice and a little salt added. I use a heavy plate to submerge them. This definitely reduced bitterness. Braising them later to which a LITTLE sugar was added also balanced the flavours. Thank you for all your work...love your channel!

  • @_araminta_
    @_araminta_ 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love them! They're called Chicorée (Cichorium intybus) in Germany, and I personally prefer them with a touch of bitterness. :) What we call "Endivien" (Cichorium endivia) over here is used as salad and looks totally different.

  • @Rudderify
    @Rudderify 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great recipe, as always. You need tons more subscribers and followers. Thanks for the knowledge!

  • @DavidMaurand
    @DavidMaurand 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    my (french) grandmother used to talk about on-deev and i never knew what she was talking about. now i'm going to make this... looks more like a celebration of my childhood cluelessness, but she would call it 'penance.' either way, it will be delicious.

  • @Uneekname
    @Uneekname 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love easy recipes :) I've never had endive before. I'm going to try it soon!

    • @ellesinky8667
      @ellesinky8667 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      You can also try and eat it raw in a salad: cut into 1-2 cm pieces (a bit like iceberg lettuce) with some diced Emmental and maybe some chopped walnuts and a light vinaigrette. Another classic!

  • @donbrown1284
    @donbrown1284 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Just what a cook wants to hear, "It's not that bad!"

  • @dwaynewladyka577
    @dwaynewladyka577 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think that looks great. Cheers!

  • @olgaguadalupeortegadavalos1551
    @olgaguadalupeortegadavalos1551 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    CONGRATULATIONS !!!
    It's a great recipe !!!

  • @aliciaarden2019
    @aliciaarden2019 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    You always turn something pretty ordinary into a magic food. Such is your touch. 👏👏👏

  • @gunlovingliberal1706
    @gunlovingliberal1706 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    The green part is where the bitterness is. Buy endives as free of green as possible. That makes a world of difference. Wonderful recipe and great video. Thank you.

  • @davidsouza7871
    @davidsouza7871 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video...presented in a way that it appears "doable" to make..thank you

  • @alcogito8287
    @alcogito8287 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I was shopping for vegetables when a tall good looking Dutch man next to me was stuffing his bag full of what we call Bengian endives. He took all there were, then turned to me and commented that they were half the price of the ones at a nearby store. I asked him how he cooked them and he described this exact recipe. I came back later and got some, checked for the exact recipe on Google, and made this. I thought they tasted OK (of course, with all that cheese and ham), but with so much steaming and cooking, the endives were rather soggy because I didn't know to squeeze them. I prefer a crunchier dish so I chopped up the uncooked ones and put them in a salad.

  • @pietjepuk4203
    @pietjepuk4203 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Itś called witloof in Dutch. Andijvie is green .

    • @nicolethijs5428
      @nicolethijs5428 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Pietje Puk maar zo heet het nu eenmaal in het engels.

    • @pietjepuk4203
      @pietjepuk4203 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@nicolethijs5428 Hahaha , dat is waar.

    • @JB-pk8vm
      @JB-pk8vm 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@pietjepuk4203 classic naam

  • @FLAPDROL26
    @FLAPDROL26 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thrue selection the farmers succeeded to get rid of most of the bitterness the endives used to have. In such a riche sauce you need some contrasting taste. So for me the (hard to find) old fashion 'witlof' is the best!

  • @johancoppens1528
    @johancoppens1528 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I braise the endive in duck fat. No stock or liquid added, the endives contain enough water to get the right amount of steam in the pan. Depending on the heat you can choose to caramelize the surfaces or not.

  • @mariaungureanu3407
    @mariaungureanu3407 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I like the Chef french accent in english...Of course the recipe is delicious.

  • @johnroquemore9128
    @johnroquemore9128 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice to see another video, I enjoy your content, and learn a bit along the way.

  • @bkm2797
    @bkm2797 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I could not help but giggle about your feelings about bitter. I too don't care for it, but you made it look like maybe one day I will give it a try. Always great to see what inspires you and I hope all is well. Thank you for the upload.

    • @FrenchCookingAcademy
      @FrenchCookingAcademy  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      thanks for the comment actually it was not that bad at the end 🙂🙂

  • @mariadrseelig9941
    @mariadrseelig9941 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    After cooking the endive caramel ice it on each side, helps with bitterness. So basically you make mornay sauce.

  • @NowTheseBoysCanCook
    @NowTheseBoysCanCook 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    omg you crack me up!

  • @aminazacharya6751
    @aminazacharya6751 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks😇

  • @Anglianpheuksudbury
    @Anglianpheuksudbury 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love it, another great video , thanks gonna try this at the week end!! 😋

  • @delyar
    @delyar ปีที่แล้ว

    Some puree and you have a perfect meal for cold weather

  • @TeddyAura
    @TeddyAura 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    c'est le chicon. C'est une recette de Flandres.

  • @tshampoo7762
    @tshampoo7762 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You make me laugh. Making something you detest. My Belgian mother always halved them and cut the ‘core’ out of the bottom to remove the bitterness before cooking. This is one of my favourite dishes. Thank you for making it.

  • @EricValor
    @EricValor 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    This looks FANTASTIC! I remember the first time I had endive as a kid. I thought it was just baby Romaine lettuce but when I started chewing I exclaimed "Woah! There's something wrong with my lettuce!" My dad explained that it's something different called Endive and it's supposed to taste like that. I was a weird kid who liked spinach, broccoli, brussels sprouts, etc., and this was no different - just another nifty vegetable to eat. But wrapped in ham and covered in cheese sauce? I would have made that disappear without a trace!
    I thought a bechamel with cheese was a mornay sauce..?

  • @andysbg77
    @andysbg77 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    C'est magnifique!!

  • @reneehorn5257
    @reneehorn5257 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love endives, love the bitterness. Love them raw also

    • @nicolethijs5428
      @nicolethijs5428 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Try some endive salad with mayonnaise and serve it with french fries ( belgian fries, actually) and raw beef tartare with p& s and mayo. Devine! Or mix it with raw fennel slices and green apple cubes and a slightly sweet mayo based vinaigrette.

  • @samtonning
    @samtonning 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is wonderful!

  • @andreah.5962
    @andreah.5962 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I am going to try this!

  • @panuntukan
    @panuntukan 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    For the people who like bitterness, in northern Italy they cook the "radicchio" (a red chicory) and a brassicae called "brocolo fiolaro". In the Veneto (Padova, Venice, Vicenza...) region they appreciate also bitter tastes. Chef Stéphane has mentioned the Martini, but you have to know that almost every region in Italy has its proper traditional "amaro", a bitter digestive. The "Braulio" (northern Italy) is one of the most famous, also the "Amaro del Capo" (Southern Italy).

    • @nicolethijs5428
      @nicolethijs5428 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thats far more bitter then our Belgian Endives.

  • @MikeOBrien1945
    @MikeOBrien1945 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I think I’d brush the ham with just a little Dijon before rolling.

    • @nicolethijs5428
      @nicolethijs5428 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I would not do that you would loose the delicate flavour of theendives and the ham.

    • @markcash2
      @markcash2 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      or mix some ground mustard into the bechamel sauce?

  • @theoldgrowler3489
    @theoldgrowler3489 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Would a slightly sweet dark beer help in balancing the bitter?

  • @vivianepilou2211
    @vivianepilou2211 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    First, this is NOT a french recipe but a belgian one!
    Secondly, to prepare the chicons as we call endives in Belgium, you cut the end and carve a cone inside to remove the bitterness. Anc cooking the endives with the end diffuses the bitterness of course! Anyway, endives cultivated nowadays are by far not as bitter as they used to be. And why cut the top which is the most tender part of the endive. Similarly you threw away leaves which were perfect.
    Lastly, although you know can buy endives all year long, this dish is a winter dish.
    This was the first dish I ever cooked as a teenager and have been making this regularly over the last decades and nobody ever found the dish bitter.

  • @thhseeking
    @thhseeking 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I've always known them as chicons. I was born in Wallonie, though :)

    • @gc7956
      @gc7956 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      we say chicon too in Picardie

    • @TheHungarianOak
      @TheHungarianOak 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      they are actually called Belgian endives in France. Endives were imporred from Belgium in the 19th century to the Parisian markets

    • @Lars_erik
      @Lars_erik ปีที่แล้ว

      Weird to me tho, because andijvie and endive are actually the same thing xD witlof is chicory…

    • @thhseeking
      @thhseeking ปีที่แล้ว

      @@gc7956 Ch'ti! 😁

    • @thhseeking
      @thhseeking ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Lars_erik the root, as I understand it, is chicory. My grandmother used to use it to make coffee during the war.

  • @linus4394
    @linus4394 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yeaaah! Love such French classics!

  • @TheArteditors
    @TheArteditors 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Lol. Loved the ok after tasting lol

  • @Cremantus
    @Cremantus 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    We share the same nightmare... but well... maybe it is worth the try. Thumbs up!

  • @markcash2
    @markcash2 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Maybe you could make some Poulet Vallee d'Auge once apples and cider come in season?

  • @anastasia10017
    @anastasia10017 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I always have problems with knowing what to do with Asparagus -- other than steam it and put butter on it, what else can we do that is quick and easy ? maybe you can do a video showing several alternative recipes ? merci !!

  • @davidk7262
    @davidk7262 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is mostly referred to as chicory in the UK if you are looking for it in the supermarket.

    • @FrenchCookingAcademy
      @FrenchCookingAcademy  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Great I will change it in the title 🙂

    • @davidk7262
      @davidk7262 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@FrenchCookingAcademy Ah I wasn't expecting that. If you don't like the bitterness of the chicory I guess you could try it with gem lettuce or celery hearts. Great video as always!

    • @FrenchCookingAcademy
      @FrenchCookingAcademy  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Well it was that bad at the end it's just me I have an issue with spinach too 😁😁

    • @nicolethijs5428
      @nicolethijs5428 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Indeed, chickory is the better name. Its from the roots of this plant that chicoree is made.

    • @nicolethijs5428
      @nicolethijs5428 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      You could also use braised leeks.

  • @phiakate
    @phiakate 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Chicory..UK

  • @Zelahcooks
    @Zelahcooks 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love bittttter foood 😝

  • @arthrodea
    @arthrodea 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Conclusion: Draping anything bitter in enough cream, butter, cheese, and ham will make it delicious!

  • @xdotsu
    @xdotsu 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    and here I just thought this was something my ma just made. But cut out the stem a bit, it reduces the bitterness. That's what I was taught.

  • @froufroudeluxe
    @froufroudeluxe ปีที่แล้ว

    A Belgian staple! Hespenrolletjes

  • @alanvonau278
    @alanvonau278 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    White asparagus ( en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asparagus#White_asparagus ) can probably be substituted for endives in this recipe.

  • @thhseeking
    @thhseeking 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Chicons :P Cooked in butter :)

  • @SkyWolfSkydive
    @SkyWolfSkydive 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    If you caramelize your endives in a skillet with a little sugar before you wrap with ham there will be no bitterness

  • @oldfrend
    @oldfrend 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    like me and bitter melon growing up in an asian house. no matter what my mother did nothing could get me to choke down that bitter green nastiness.

  • @Xipe666
    @Xipe666 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I was going to say, isn't that a Mournay... but apparently a proper Mournay also has eggs (which I didn't know).

  • @sophiaxox698
    @sophiaxox698 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi, can i use a different kind of meat.

  • @shahmatjf2
    @shahmatjf2 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Salut! Est-ce que ça se sert en entrée ou comme accompagnement de plat principal?

    • @ellesinky8667
      @ellesinky8667 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Traditionnellement en plat principal, 1 endive au gratin par personne (ou 1,5 pour les gourmands) accompagnée de quelques pommes de terre à l'eau ou de riz.

    • @shahmatjf2
      @shahmatjf2 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ellesinky8667 Merci!

  • @lorib5398
    @lorib5398 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    How long to steam endive? 35 or 45 min?

    • @nicolethijs5428
      @nicolethijs5428 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Lori B that is far too long, I guess. I never steam them but braise them and that hardly takes 10 to 15 minutes depending on big they are.

  • @dennisbougie8322
    @dennisbougie8322 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I don’t eat pork. Is there another meat that would work? Maybe pastrami?

  • @86910able
    @86910able 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Het valt me op dat hij vaker Nederlandse woorden gebruikt in zijn recepten. Ik heb er een paar van genoteerd: Witlof, soeplepel, koffiefilter, oma(soep), peper. Allemaal accentloos uitgesproken. Heeft hij Nederlandse familie?

  • @Lars_erik
    @Lars_erik ปีที่แล้ว

    A good tip if you don’t like the bitterness, cut out the hard core ;)

  • @liamhayes1011
    @liamhayes1011 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is 'chicons au gratin' and it's Belgian!

  • @JS-xn9qd
    @JS-xn9qd 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I put sugar while cooking them, the sweetness of the sugar completely kills the bitterness.

    • @Brollyssweetface
      @Brollyssweetface 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      How much sugar do you put in the broth?

  • @panuntukan
    @panuntukan 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I don't put no chicken stock nor lemon juice, only a small amount of water after endives are brown. When it is covered, the endives themselves will release a lot of water.

  • @mariatamer1838
    @mariatamer1838 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Helllo Stephan...

  • @BillGreenAZ
    @BillGreenAZ 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm thinking hearts of romaine could be prepared similarly in place of the endives.

    • @Milly5216
      @Milly5216 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Bill Green idk if that would be the best substitute i think leeks would fit more texture wise

    • @BillGreenAZ
      @BillGreenAZ 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Milly5216 Have you ever had braised hearts of romaine? It's quite good even if it is a different texture.

  • @ritazustrupa7783
    @ritazustrupa7783 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I thought this recipe is from Belgian cuisine.

  • @Vortexdr
    @Vortexdr 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ehh chicory is a hell of a lot better than brussel sprouts which are truly the devils seed not nearly as bitter as brussel sprouts either. But yeah this is the way my mom prepared them when growing up in Germany always wrapped with ham and emmentaler

  • @Ramseds87
    @Ramseds87 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Congrats! You overcame a childhood trauma. :)

  • @bambouzal
    @bambouzal 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is a CHICON

  • @NatasjavanDijknah
    @NatasjavanDijknah 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Cooking them for... 35 minutes? :O That is what makes them so bitter, imo.
    I just blanche them for a few minutes and then roll them in the ham.

    • @NatasjavanDijknah
      @NatasjavanDijknah 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I hated them too when I was a kid, but making them my way I've come to apriciate them. I also made a version with goat cheese (first roll) and luxurious Italian ham (second roll). That tastes even better.

    • @nicolethijs5428
      @nicolethijs5428 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Not cooking them for 35 min. But gently brasing them( stoven) . Thats totally different and its not that that makes them bitter. They are naturally lightly bitter.

  • @seantynan1
    @seantynan1 ปีที่แล้ว

    I can sense your slight disdain for this horrendous vegetable.
    I wonder could I do the same with my nemesis... the Cabbage?

  • @pattizayas1051
    @pattizayas1051 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    lol

  • @vygotsky17
    @vygotsky17 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    You need only pronounce it the French way :-)

  • @janjansens8724
    @janjansens8724 หลายเดือนก่อน

    endives are as french as jacques brel...

  • @royarguello8509
    @royarguello8509 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Its On Deevs. Don't cater. Say it correctly

  • @flo9160
    @flo9160 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Frérot parle en français on comprend walou!!!

  • @brendaboccara8854
    @brendaboccara8854 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Why do you demonstrate a recipe that you don't know how to cook? lol