The security zones is a very good addition so you can disable the sensors when you are at home. I also red the Bridge PRO has a local mode, executing scenes involving Zigbee devices even if the internet is down. Also take in consideration the old Bridge limit of 32 devices is in total, you would not be able to increase that by extending the zigbee network with ROUTER devices (repeaters). Regarding the Bridge Pro I've asked ITEAD and they mentioned you can add only 26 directly connected devices to the ZB Bridge PRO, so I guess you'll get to the 128 devices by adding routers and child devices.
I was under the impression that adding routers to the network extends the number of devices. It's a mesh network which means sacrificing connection to a router device opens opportunity to add child devices to the router instead. I'll ask for clarification as well just to be sure.
You are right. I confirmed this as well. I will pin this comment, as the information in the video about going beyond 128 isn't factual. Thanks for letting me know.
hi there. awesome video. i hope you see this question. so you ares saying this new PRO HUB will not work with older xiaomi miija sensors back in the days? doe the OLDER SONOFF BRIDGE work with them? i have so many xiaomi window, body, water leakage, cube sensors that i would love to use witht the sonoff bridge and some other sonoff things. thanks in advance.
Hello, It's not quite the case. Go for a custom coordinator, flash this or get a custom coordinator like CC2531 - for max compatibility. I have a couple videos on it. With standard firmware, Sonoff Bridge will only work with sensor types that are only available in ewelink ecosystem
Nice presentation. As to the range differences, in favor to older version, I can confirm that previous model has a helical (3D) antenna of better efficiency both Tx and Rx, while the later model has printed (2D) antenna which is usually of lower efficiency.
One thing I didn't like was not having triggers for alarms, which prevents you from activating an external siren, a great pity, because they don't sell an external siren, and that buzzer is very weak. You can work around creating scenes for each sensor, but the normal bridge would already do that, the alarm functionality is currently extremely limited.
Sounds like a custom firmware is the answer here but what is your view (too early to tell?) - dongle plus or hub pro? And does the hub work natively with HA similar to the dongle? Guess not without custom firmware….
I guess if you do proper channel separation you should be ok. More often than not it's not the WiFi that causes the issues but the fact that people plug it in to USB 3.0 ports
There is a Tasmota build for the Pro now. I am currently running Zigbee2Tasmota on one that integrates with HA. Ive not tried the serial ethernet tunnel method for ZHA with this device, but it should work fine.
The "buzzer" is a nice feature. I would use that for an alarm for things like basement freezing or leak detection too. I look forward to the Tasmota update that I'm sure will be coming.
exactly this! Would be great to buzz the alarm when there is a leak. Wish ALEXA could add 'SONOFF 433MHZ WIRELESS WATER LEAKAGE SENSOR' so I could play a notification on Echo devices.
dear friend i have a question if u know, i have Sonoff ZBBridge Smart Hub can this be connected on tuya app? also can this hub pair different brands? thanks
EFR32 is also capable of supporting a lot of devices. The bottleneck was due to the older CPU. So a much better solution would be an ewelink bridge with Ethernet, ESP32, and EFR32 inside.
Wasn't it the memory that was the bottleneck on esp8266 on the old bridge? Perhaps this is why we see PSRAM on a new one. I'm with you on that. From a PRO unit I'd expect options like Ethernet mode, ability to run it as router and perhaps sprinkle some temp sensors and lights to make the hub more usable
Im really interested in security system around Sonoff. At present Im using a Ring system with external loud siren. For Sonoff to get into Security system, first they must have a loud outdoor siren, with Battery back up and tamper protection. Presense detection with Battery, Bridge with with Battery Back up, a portable rmergency Switch. Im waiting for such a system from Sonoff for long time and recently gone to Ring.
You could resolve this with a relay connected to a siren. If you use the relay between the battery and siren, and keep battery on a charging loop this is exactly what you would achieve. You could wire existing siren up this way too
@@notenoughtech Yes, things are possible with engineering minds. I hope the finished products from companies like Sonoff will be easy to use and will require lesser maintenance. For example my present system from Ring is a complete package with very good app which can monitor many things including battery status of all connected devices.
For the security scheme to be decent, they need to put triggered alarm options in the if triggers. Today the bridge itself is only listed in the then clause.
Each ZigBee ecosystem usually comes with a dedicated router, although many us already have ZigBee enabled Alexa or similar. While usually it works just fine, for total device compatibility it's advised to use the router from the same ecosystem. This can be bypassed by custom coordinators.
I’m curious has anyone tried to use a eWeLink motion sensor with eWeLink app through an Sonoff-ZigBee bridge? Did you receive motion alarm successfully with the app or not? I failed. I can pair the bridge into eWeLink app and add sub unit (PIR) under the bridge device, but receive no alarm near and far. CR2450 coin cell was 3.0V. Did that happen to you?
It works with eWeLink app but then the moes switch is not being found, looks like my thinking of everything works with everything zigbee 3.0 is wrong 😬
They are not supported by ewelink. However soon this may change. You can look into a tuya hub I have here reviewed (benexmart) or consider flashing yours with a custom firmware
I am just going to start with configuring and buying smart stuff which bridge should I buy is SONOFF Zigbee Bridge Pro a good option or do you recommend anything else?
ZB Bridge Pro is a good option as if you later on find yourself limited by Ewelink ecosystem you can always flash it and use it as a custom coordinator with your own server.
@notenoughTECH 1) what I that cool looking light behind you that lights up as you talk? 2) what zigbee hub would you recommend to work with all/most other none sonoff products like ikea?
You can trigger stuff based on sunrise in automation panel. The actual gentle wake up would need a couple automations to trigger different brightness levels. Plus you'll need a dimmable light too
tenho uma rede com aproximadamente 29 aparelhos zigbee sonoff ligados a bridge antiga e com a compra de mais dispositivos e da distancia de alguns deles optei por comprar essa nova bridge PRO mas não sei como migrar os dispositivos ou se posso colocar um em cada lado da casa e dividir o trabalho entre elas, preciso de ajuda.
@@notenoughtech Thanks for replying. But all sonoff zigbee plugs/switches act as a router example ZBMINI / ZBMINI-L? My ZB Sensors turned offline after couple of minutes. Sensors between bridge about 18meters. To test it i put all sensors near bridge and all remain online. This sonoff bridge range 👎
If you want to combine the ecosystems you can experiment with flashing the hub with custom firmware or go directly with custom coordinator. That will cover your needs
Hi thank you so much for this video !! As I have been using Echo show 8(1st gen), and I wish to add Zigbee, should I go for a Zigbee gateway hub like aqara e1 or sonoff Zigbee hub ? Or should go for Echo (4th) as it has inbuilt Zigbee ? Please help
Actually, I never used Alexa hub with ZigBee in it. I can't make a fair recommendation. I like Aqara stuff but it's pricy. Sonoff is cheaper, but not made to the same quality. It would depend on your budget in my opinion. Also check out aqara G3 camera with Zigbee hub IR and face recognition
Have you ever considered custom coordinator? Check out cc2431 got videos about it. You'll be able to mix and match at will. Sonoff - cheaper and can be flashed to make custom coordinator Aqara more expansive but much better ecosystem
@@notenoughtech I m sorry I don’t know what that is. As I have just started advancing in smart home devices. Anyway I finally took a call and ordered a aqara e1 costed me around 52 USD compared to 28 USD of sonoff
The security zones is a very good addition so you can disable the sensors when you are at home. I also red the Bridge PRO has a local mode, executing scenes involving Zigbee devices even if the internet is down. Also take in consideration the old Bridge limit of 32 devices is in total, you would not be able to increase that by extending the zigbee network with ROUTER devices (repeaters).
Regarding the Bridge Pro I've asked ITEAD and they mentioned you can add only 26 directly connected devices to the ZB Bridge PRO, so I guess you'll get to the 128 devices by adding routers and child devices.
I was under the impression that adding routers to the network extends the number of devices. It's a mesh network which means sacrificing connection to a router device opens opportunity to add child devices to the router instead. I'll ask for clarification as well just to be sure.
You are right. I confirmed this as well.
I will pin this comment, as the information in the video about going beyond 128 isn't factual. Thanks for letting me know.
my old model my door and window sensors even being close to the hub is very offline
does the local scene works with wifi devices, like a zigbee button activate a wifi sonoff basic ?
@@derfire No, the local SCENES are only those involving all Zigbee devices connected to the same bridge.
hi there. awesome video. i hope you see this question. so you ares saying this new PRO HUB will not work with older xiaomi miija sensors back in the days? doe the OLDER SONOFF BRIDGE work with them? i have so many xiaomi window, body, water leakage, cube sensors that i would love to use witht the sonoff bridge and some other sonoff things. thanks in advance.
Hello, It's not quite the case. Go for a custom coordinator, flash this or get a custom coordinator like CC2531 - for max compatibility. I have a couple videos on it. With standard firmware, Sonoff Bridge will only work with sensor types that are only available in ewelink ecosystem
@@notenoughtech thank you for the answer. another question pelase, does this model have RF signal? so i can use with my air conditioner? thanks again.
I believe that the only 'Pro' feature is the Scenes working w/o Internet... something that could be upgraded in the old version.
Nice presentation. As to the range differences, in favor to older version, I can confirm that previous model has a helical (3D) antenna of better efficiency both Tx and Rx, while the later model has printed (2D) antenna which is usually of lower efficiency.
One thing I didn't like was not having triggers for alarms, which prevents you from activating an external siren, a great pity, because they don't sell an external siren, and that buzzer is very weak. You can work around creating scenes for each sensor, but the normal bridge would already do that, the alarm functionality is currently extremely limited.
I agree, there’s no way to trigger real sirens nor other activators with Alarm triggers, just the internal buzzer 😢
Get a marker and write pro on it
Sounds like a custom firmware is the answer here but what is your view (too early to tell?) - dongle plus or hub pro? And does the hub work natively with HA similar to the dongle? Guess not without custom firmware….
Id hope for a similar performance to their usb double as it's based on the same IC series
@@notenoughtech But dongle is not WiFi so much more stable?
I guess if you do proper channel separation you should be ok. More often than not it's not the WiFi that causes the issues but the fact that people plug it in to USB 3.0 ports
There is a Tasmota build for the Pro now. I am currently running Zigbee2Tasmota on one that integrates with HA. Ive not tried the serial ethernet tunnel method for ZHA with this device, but it should work fine.
Guys, are these S26 Zb still have inching?
The "buzzer" is a nice feature. I would use that for an alarm for things like basement freezing or leak detection too. I look forward to the Tasmota update that I'm sure will be coming.
Fortunately you can triggr this from Scenes, so you will be able to make a sound alarm with any trigger
exactly this! Would be great to buzz the alarm when there is a leak. Wish ALEXA could add 'SONOFF 433MHZ WIRELESS WATER LEAKAGE SENSOR' so I could play a notification on Echo devices.
You could do that with NodeRed and eWeLink API
@@notenoughtech Too bad there isn't the opposite, a triggered alarm doesn't serve as a trigger for anything.
dear friend i have a question if u know, i have Sonoff ZBBridge Smart Hub
can this be connected on tuya app? also can this hub pair different brands? thanks
You won't be able to use the hub in tuya. I have a video of benexmart hub which is pretty good for that
EFR32 is also capable of supporting a lot of devices. The bottleneck was due to the older CPU. So a much better solution would be an ewelink bridge with Ethernet, ESP32, and EFR32 inside.
Wasn't it the memory that was the bottleneck on esp8266 on the old bridge? Perhaps this is why we see PSRAM on a new one. I'm with you on that.
From a PRO unit I'd expect options like Ethernet mode, ability to run it as router and perhaps sprinkle some temp sensors and lights to make the hub more usable
Im really interested in security system around Sonoff. At present Im using a Ring system with external loud siren.
For Sonoff to get into Security system, first they must have a loud outdoor siren, with Battery back up and tamper protection. Presense detection with Battery, Bridge with with Battery Back up, a portable rmergency Switch. Im waiting for such a system from Sonoff for long time and recently gone to Ring.
You could resolve this with a relay connected to a siren. If you use the relay between the battery and siren, and keep battery on a charging loop this is exactly what you would achieve. You could wire existing siren up this way too
@@notenoughtech Yes, things are possible with engineering minds.
I hope the finished products from companies like Sonoff will be easy to use and will require lesser maintenance.
For example my present system from Ring is a complete package with very good app which can monitor many things including battery status of all connected devices.
For the security scheme to be decent, they need to put triggered alarm options in the if triggers. Today the bridge itself is only listed in the then clause.
Will Ikea bulb/socket work with this gareway?
I don't think it would without flashing it. I have a guide about this
How the devices recognize that the alarm is armed?
You can trigger it via interface or button. Then cloud stores the state of the alarm
I didn't understand very well. What is the function of the Zigbee base, since there are the same devices that attach to home routers?
Each ZigBee ecosystem usually comes with a dedicated router, although many us already have ZigBee enabled Alexa or similar. While usually it works just fine, for total device compatibility it's advised to use the router from the same ecosystem. This can be bypassed by custom coordinators.
Maaan ... I really wanted one, but I'm not a pro, so I'll have to get something else /s
Haha how do you know you are not a pro. Maybe you are. Don't sell yourself short
I’m curious has anyone tried to use a eWeLink motion sensor with eWeLink app through an Sonoff-ZigBee bridge? Did you receive motion alarm successfully with the app or not? I failed.
I can pair the bridge into eWeLink app and add sub unit (PIR) under the bridge device, but receive no alarm near and far. CR2450 coin cell was 3.0V.
Did that happen to you?
That's strange indeed. I'll try a new battery just incase and if that won't help once repaired then contact support for the device RMA
@@notenoughtech thanks. Can you confirm that PIR device flash red once when motion is detected? Then enter a cool down period?
You get a flash on detection and 90 sec of cool down
Why can’t Philips hue follow these steps and over come the 50 device limit mark!
How will they make money off rich people? 😉😉😉
Does the bridge support the addition of any zigbee bulbs, for example the Ikea Tradfri range? I'd prefer zigbee bulbs over wifi to reinforce the mesh.
Not tested it sadly. It will when flashed with custom firmware for sure
PRO and dont even have external antena :DDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
can all zigbee 3 products work with sonoff zigbee bridge pro
Only the ones that share the same properties. So you can make PIR sensor work but not water leak sensor as hub won't know what to do with it
Can I order a Zigbee device via wifi with this gateway?
Err, i think you forgot to cover that RTC aspect as mentioned in the begining. Can please highlight the advantage of it. Thanks
It keeps local timers so in case of network loss, your schedules are uninterupted
@@notenoughtech Thanks 👍🏻👍🏻
Hi, I am struggling to add this to Tuya app, do you know if this works with Tuya ?
No it won't work with tuya you need to use ewelink app
@@notenoughtech thank you
It works with eWeLink app but then the moes switch is not being found, looks like my thinking of everything works with everything zigbee 3.0 is wrong 😬
They are not supported by ewelink. However soon this may change. You can look into a tuya hub I have here reviewed (benexmart) or consider flashing yours with a custom firmware
I am just going to start with configuring and buying smart stuff
which bridge should I buy is SONOFF Zigbee Bridge Pro a good option or do you recommend anything else?
ZB Bridge Pro is a good option as if you later on find yourself limited by Ewelink ecosystem you can always flash it and use it as a custom coordinator with your own server.
@@notenoughtech Thank you for your reply, is there any bridge that you would recommend that's compatible with zigbee and tuya ?
@MrOxit check out my video on benexmart hub - it always worked great for me
Can I use any Zigbee Gateway with those Sonoff devices?
You can use a lot of them, but not all will be compatible. For best results use custom coordinator like ZZH or Sonoff Dongle
@notenoughTECH
1) what I that cool looking light behind you that lights up as you talk?
2) what zigbee hub would you recommend to work with all/most other none sonoff products like ikea?
Go for custom coordinator with ZigBee
Zzh electrolama is good.
And for the panel check this
notenoughtech.com/featured/awesome-led-panel-from-hell/
@@notenoughtech thank you 😊
Is there any technique to pair the p1 sensors to this hub? I cant pair mine
Are you on stock firmware or flashed with tasmota?
Can it work with timers and regulation temperature in local scene if lost internet connection?
yes the pro can still execute this
Can the app to sunrise/gentle wakeup i.e. control colour and gradual brightness increase?
You can trigger stuff based on sunrise in automation panel. The actual gentle wake up would need a couple automations to trigger different brightness levels. Plus you'll need a dimmable light too
@@notenoughtech Thanks for coming back to me, really appreciate it. So it is possible, you just need to stack automations together...
tenho uma rede com aproximadamente 29 aparelhos zigbee sonoff ligados a bridge antiga e com a compra de mais dispositivos e da distancia de alguns deles optei por comprar essa nova bridge PRO mas não sei como migrar os dispositivos ou se posso colocar um em cada lado da casa e dividir o trabalho entre elas, preciso de ajuda.
its likely you will need to pair it again one by one as no migration tools are provided
The range is better in the older one or in the pro? I don't understand that Last sentence...
In the older one.
What sonoff devices i need to install to increase ZB bridge Pro range between sensors?
Plugs or bulbs and switches usually act as routers
@@notenoughtech Thanks for replying. But all sonoff zigbee plugs/switches act as a router example ZBMINI / ZBMINI-L?
My ZB Sensors turned offline after couple of minutes. Sensors between bridge about 18meters. To test it i put all sensors near bridge and all remain online.
This sonoff bridge range 👎
Can it work with sensor from other brand like moes or aqara?
Very unlikely.
@@notenoughtech looks like I need to buy each brand hub for each sensor
If you want to combine the ecosystems you can experiment with flashing the hub with custom firmware or go directly with custom coordinator. That will cover your needs
Thanks for sharing Mat.
Hi thank you so much for this video !! As I have been using Echo show 8(1st gen), and I wish to add Zigbee, should I go for a Zigbee gateway hub like aqara e1 or sonoff Zigbee hub ? Or should go for Echo (4th) as it has inbuilt Zigbee ? Please help
Actually, I never used Alexa hub with ZigBee in it. I can't make a fair recommendation. I like Aqara stuff but it's pricy. Sonoff is cheaper, but not made to the same quality. It would depend on your budget in my opinion. Also check out aqara G3 camera with Zigbee hub IR and face recognition
@@notenoughtech so I should go for aqara or sonoff instead of buying echo (4th)?
Have you ever considered custom coordinator? Check out cc2431 got videos about it. You'll be able to mix and match at will.
Sonoff - cheaper and can be flashed to make custom coordinator
Aqara more expansive but much better ecosystem
@@notenoughtech I m sorry I don’t know what that is. As I have just started advancing in smart home devices. Anyway I finally took a call and ordered a aqara e1 costed me around 52 USD compared to 28 USD of sonoff
Ok. You will be happy with aqara stuff and they have some cool devices coming soon too
what app did you use to set it up?
eWeLink app
From my experience, Sonoff products are cheap rubbish that occasionally work and fail, or just don't work at all.
Never again.