Wouldn't the hotel have a Tesla destination wall chargers the to level 2 kind. You could just buy an adapter from Amazon and charge on that Tesla charger. It's not like a super charger. I have a Tesla wall charger in my garage that's been charging a ccs phev range Rover
Good video, very true to life. We are very happy with our Lyric great always having a full tank (80%) every time you leave the house. We've talked to other EV owners and universally they praise Petro Canada fast chargers as being well priced and in service. We received a $750 FLO charger credit when we purchased the vehicle, and are considering driving Toronto to Phoenix return for an adventure and to use up the credit. We are trying to understand what machines accept the FLO credit in the US but it's difficult to figure out. We were dismayed to see apps like my Cadillac and Charge Hub estimate the total charge expense to be around $1200 Cdn, that's more than twice it would cost to do the trip in my V6 gas engine SUV, still we're liking the idea of using super cruise on the 36 hour drive.
It's pretty hilarious to see the huge difference in comment sections where EV drivers are talking about their actual experience, versus where people who have never driven an EV are making comments about EVs. (Or, dare I say, perhaps where people have been directed to make comments on behalf of someone) EV owners tend to be very happy with their cars. Even in the case of GM and Ford, where road tripping is a bit weak compared to Tesla or Rivian, still the Lyriq and Bolt and Mach-e and Lightning drivers almost unanimously love their cars / trucks. The contrast between people who have the experience, and those who don't, is really stark.
Let me start by saying this was an excellent video as a person thinking of entering the EV market and the lyric to top it off. It really help me with some thoughts I had and concerns though it did not settle my concerns. I’m still undecided not sure if I have the patience, plus I feel it’s gonna cause me to spend more money while waiting then if I just stopped at a gas station, I think once the adapter is out for the Tesla stations, it won’t be as bad
Power is measured in Kilowatts. It's the amount of energy the charging station pumps into the battery every second. Energy is measured in Kilowatt-hours. It is equal to the power (in kilowatts) multiplied by the time the battery was connected to the charging station. Hence kilowatt-hours.
I can fill up my suburban in Sarnia Ontario and almost make it to Bowling Green KY 150km short of getting there in one tank and I would get there in one day. Good video and has confirmed to me that the world is not ready for electric vehicles. This experience seemed frustrating can you imagine if everyone had one and you had to wait for an available charger. Disaster.
I'm picturing how this comment section would go over in 2075, if someone were to hold it up to scrutiny. Let's see . . . great grampa was more worried about how long it took to fill up on his twice a year road trip, than he was about our ability to grow crops in the plains states.
@@davidmenasco5743 yeah the grumpy folks don’t seem to pay any attention to the fact that we’re rapidly destroying the planet. But it’s true that EV’s need to get better for mass acceptance and they need to do it fast.
Charging infrastructure is better (more reliable) in Canada than it is in America and Charge America is what Volkswagen did for that diesel fiasco so I can’t say that I believe in their honest desire to do things up front and in an honest manner (imo)
Honest question I was looking at the Cadillac Lyriq and Blazer Ev should I wait to purchase until the update the chargers equipped in the vehicles, or will they be able to software update or retrofit to the 2024's?
This is the type of video I like to see revolving around EV's though it's worth mentioning that a lot of plotting apparently went into preparing for your trip. So until EV charging capacity approaches parity with gas stations they will be a hard sell for a lot of people.
On your first charging stop, you used the 350kw charger. Was that the only one available? If there were smaller chargers there, why would you plug into the 350kw when your batteries won't take that charge? Seems to me you are blocking other cars that could use the higher powered chargers.
I believe all the chargers at the GM Energy sites are the same. But if there were 150kW chargers, the Lyriq would charge significantly slower on them. The 350kW chargers provide both more power and more current, and a faster charge. For more details, you can see the comment by NewsCoulomb on the video at the State of Charge channel, about road tripping in a Lyriq. Lithium powered EVs are still a new technology, and a lot of learning is taking place around them. These videos are very helpful as part of that process.
The GM cars do much better with a 350 charger even though they can only pull 175 kw. It’s all about voltage and over my head. But that is how they are.
I am taking my Corvette down again this year, so I figured if I’m already gonna be going down once with my Corvette I might as well do something different and test myself
Dude, yes, you are VERY new to EV'S and do not understand EV'S yet, but you can learn. The size of the battery does NOT make batteries able to charge faster. It's the "C" rate and the makeup of the battery. Kia 77 kwh packs can charge around 220 to 240 kws. So that proves your statement wrong.
Charging infrastructure is better (more reliable) in Canada than it is in America and Charge America is what Volkswagen did for that diesel fiasco so I can’t say that I believe in their honest desire so do things up front and in an honest manner (Imo)
Nice job, however that’s way to much screwing around to get charged and way to time consuming, what if it’s pouring rain, there is so many negative things regarding EVs, especially in this trip senerio, to bad I really like the style of the lyric, I would buy one if it had a nice V6 engine, it will be years before this makes sense. Thanks for all your efforts.
I’m liking seeing the reality of things. I do think that the tech level Lyriq charging speed is not as high as the luxury and sport models. 😊 Having 19 speakers and the super cruise would have made your experience more fun. But those are on trim level 2. 😬
Interesting. I just acquired a Cadillac Lyriq. I haven’t done any fast charging on the road yet, but I remember reading that the maximum kilowatt capacity on the road was (77 miles per hour, DC charging). on the Tech was 11.57 KW, (31 miles per hour, AC charging), while the Luxury and Sport were 19.2 KW, (51 miles per hour, AC charging) level 2. I assumed there was an advantage for high speed charging as well (on the Luxury or Sport) when on a road trip. I honestly don’t know now. 🤷🏻♂️
The people talking about Lyriq’s slow charging are comparing Lyiq’s 400volt architecture to cars with 800volt architecture. They are talking about dc fast charging. You are right about the Lyriq’s ac charging. It is faster than most, especially with the upgrade. To be fair the Lyriq has a longer range than cars like the Hyundai that charge faster than it.
The more people post on their trips in EVS,the more people realize they are not the way to go as a main vehicle. They are better suited to around town errands.
Sounds like you haven't seen too many Tesla road trip videos. Tesla drivers have no trouble with road trips. Enter the destination in the navigation system, and relax.
@@davidmenasco5743 I’ve seen many of them. Nothing positive. EV DAVE,OUT OF SPEC DAVE. Every 150 miles or so stopping to charge. Trying to find a working charger that’s going to charge fast. To charge fully takes a long time. It is a financial wreck for many companies. How many have filed for bankruptcy. Tesla works because they built their own chargers. As I’ve said around town fine,long distance doesn’t work. Watch the CEO of Ford with his EV truck. Disaster. What percentage of EV owners are going back to ICE, and why? EV S will never account for a high percentage in sales and use. Nobody is addressing the fact that outside of Tesla nobody is buying a used EV,why? What are you going to do with all those depleted batteries. Most people are leasing them and they’re not going back for seconds. Face the facts,EV’S have place but not as your main vehicle. And lastly look at what the winter does to the batteries half your range gone until the spring. Enjoy.
@@nathanielwilson1899 Gosh, FUD much? You're making up so much stuff, it's hard to know where to begin. Let's see, something like 75% of the EVs on the road in the US are Teslas. And Teslas really have no problem with road trips. You are grossly misrepresenting EV road trip videos. The VAST MAJORITY of these videos feature Teslas. And almost every one demonstrates that road tripping in a Tesla is no problem. Your comment about used EVs makes absolutely no sense. Every used car that drives, sells. It's just a question of price. Right now, many EVs depreciate almost as fast as a gas powered BMW. But, it's a new, cutting edge technology. So OF COURSE THEY DO. As far as batteries, every company that recycles batteries wants them. And several companies specialize in just recycling lithium ion batteries and EV batteries. But wait! When, eventually (after 20+ years) EV batteries lose enough capacity to be retired from the road, they still have about ten years of use left, for stationary storage applications. So it's gonna be a long time before those recyclers see very many EV batteries. Last but not least, plenty of people never take long road trips, or do so only rarely. All of these people would be fine with any EV, except maybe the Leaf. We're talking about close to half of all drivers in this group alone. Oh, and one more point: EVs will eventually reach very close to 100% of auto sales. As the impacts from climate change keep worsening, at an accelerating rate, the transition to EVs will only become that much more urgent.
I would never road trip in a EV unless I had free supercharger miles or if the trip was 500 miles or less and even in that case I better have free or very cheap destination charging otherwise what’s the point.
Stops don’t have to be like a NASCAR pit crew, but sometimes you WANT them to be or NEED them to be. I want to be the one to make the decision, not the car. Your experience was far from worst-case and still highlighted a number of frustrations with EV road trips. Sorry, but I have zero interest in road tripping any EV, especially when traveling with kids who just want to get where we’re going. And the previous poster who mentioned security concerns at charging stations made a very valid point that you disingenuously blew off. Sorry, you can’t say sitting at a gas station for 5 minutes filling up is anything close to comparable to sitting at a DC charging station for 40+ minutes . It’s just not, and everyone knows it. Granted, it would help if the Lyriq had a better charging curve, which is a common criticism. I appreciate you and the channel, and I even appreciate a lot of the qualities of EVs. I particularly like how smooth and quiet they are. However, road tripping one seems like a last resort option, despite the spin you seemed to put on your experience.
Touche that sometimes you don’t want to embrace the time to change and your on a tight schedule, however I don’t think there are many occasions in a given period of time where you can drive 505km uninterrupted. Especially if you have kids. They don’t have the attention span or bladder to be able to handle that kind of stint. And if you do have kids, it’s going to take at least 20 min to get them to disembark from the car (car seats) and feed them and go to the bathroom. In that time you have now added another 200+ km to your range. This now equates to 700km, I wouldn’t want to do more then that with kids even if it was a gas vehicle. As for safety that’s a difficult one to answer without more context, I live in canada and we are not concerned about our safety sitting in our car while it charges. I understand that this may be a concern in other parts of the world and I will take that into consideration when I do the second part.
having road tripped over 150k miles all over the US in EVs (Chevy Bolt, BMW i4, Cadillac Lyriq), from northern maine to las vegas, and everything between. i have hundreds and hundreds of dcfast charging sessions and not one single time have I ever not felt safe. My wife drove cross crountry multiple times in our Bolt in 2019 by herself. I have never been approached by a person for any reason other than just being curious about the technology. anyone spouting off nonsense about not being safe is just selling fear. And you never ever drive more than 120-200miles with kids, its impossible. We all have kids or have had kids, we know. And its also impossible to get them in and out of a car, bathrooms, drinks, food, and any other thing happening in less than 20+ mins. In the lyriq, thats wayyy over 2+ more hours of driving. In my BMW, that like 240 miles at 80mph. So a miserable 3hrs, which i wont do, i like being hydrated, going to the bathroom and making sure i avoid DVTs. 2hrs is plenty in one setting. day i bought my lyriq, i went from las cruces NM--> springfield MO--> lake geneva WI--> Denver CO--> salt lake city UT--> Denver CO--> des moines IA--> atlanta GA --> las cruces NM. 8400 miles in 4 weeks with all the secondary driving around. Just a big fun 19 state road trip with some of my family, sometimes alone, And Ive never felt inconvenienced. My GF thinks the BMW charges too fast, and i have to agree, you start rushing to get back to it because its craming in miles of range you dont need. The lyriq is more reasonable charge times. I only have to wait on it if i do something dumb like decide to drive a 3-4hr stint.. which is slower over all time than just splashing the bottom and leap frogging chargers. today i drove from dallas to las cruces while my GF flew, she left 30 mins after me, but only beat me by a couple hours. EVs are amazingly fun to road trip. Far better than any gas car.
One mitigating point about that security concern. Don't EV owners spend many fewer stops per year at the filling station? If your point is that those stops come with a danger element, then there's a counterpoint for EVs.
I was so close to buying a Lyriq but now can’t see letting a charger and a car controlling my life. When the technology gets to super charge in 10 mins I’ll buy. What happens when the battery dies in traffic? You were so close before getting to Mercedes.
@@Cars_and_Crosbie KW is a rating of power being supplied. kWh is a rating of storage. you have it backwards. The size of your battery has little to nothing to do with how much charge it takes. I love you re trying to spread news about EV's but wow if you are not sure what you are talking about then do some research or ask for help.
@@Cars_and_Crosbie you don’t seem to understand the difference between kilowatts and kilowatt hours. And you’re not using the terms in the right places in the video.
@@dugintexas7908 This is nitpicking. Lots of people know the difference between KW and kWh. For the rest, it functionally doesn't matter. You knew and I knew what he meant in this video anyway.
That does not seem like a smart way to travel yet! Just don’t think we’re there yet. I’ll buy an EV when I can consistently get 1000 km per charge. Then at least I know I can get as far as I want in a single day. Great video and really puts the challenges into perspective.
Seriously for the sake of the planet you don’t think you could make one stop on a 600 mile trip? You have to stop to eat and go to the bathroom anyhow. MyHyundai recharges in 18 minutes. I have to hurry to get back to it because it’s usually done or nearly so. And much faster things are on the horizon. There’s no need to expect 600 mile or 1000 km range on an EV to make it a useful vehicle. We just need more places to charge them and they need to charge more quickly.
nope.. 300 miles is WAYYYY more than enough. If you are hydrating, you will need to stop every couple hours. plug in, go take care of that stuff and it will have a couple hours more driving ready for you when you get back out to charger. more than that is a waste of resources and you would never need it
Too much mental calculating to do a trip. There is no way my wife would ever go through all that planning. ICE cars may not be as efficient, but planning is so simple! Road trips are easier and faster.
Your wife might prefer a Tesla. The car does all the planning for you. Just enter the destination in the navigation system, and the car will tell you where to stop and for how long. Tesla drivers have no trouble with road trips, and most would never buy another ICE car. Not that I have anything against the Lyriq. It seems to be a very nice car.
dont you think if everyone purhcased these EV vehicles they wouldn't be able to find a charging station without someone already charging their EV? ok i just saw this @31.41 charging costs $50?? WHAT is the point of getting an EV then LOL?
If everyone everyone everywhere bought an ev tonight the dc fast charging network would be overrun, but that is not happening is it? The yt channel “Network Architect” documents new chargers being built. New ones are built every month. DC fast charging can be as expensive as gas, but most of the time most of the people charge their cars at home which is significantly cheaper than fast charging.
Nice review, but you keep mixing up kilowatts and kilowatt hours in the wrong places. You need to learn the difference. Also, the GM cars are very poor at charging speeds compared to the Hyundai products. I wonder when GM is going to catch up. My Hyundai charges from 10 to 80% in 18 minutes at a 350 kW charger. The GM products take more than twice that long. If they want mass acceptance, they’re gonna have to get the speed up drastically.
I’m gonna show this video to my friends as a cautionary tale not to trust what dealership car sales bros tell them when buying a new EV. So much misinformation like someone else mentioned. Please make sure to learn about EVs and not provide misinformation to your clients since you said at the beginning you sold many of these cars.
@@Cars_and_Crosbie You can take all the initiative you want, but providing misinformation to your clients who purchase these vehicles is wrong on many levels. How is GM ok with this? Hope they watch this video and at the very least send you for some EV specific sales training. Learn about the product first before making any more videos.
Great video. I have a Mach E. The Lyric and all EVs are not for the impatient and lazy people like me. 😢 Around town, they’re great. Road trips are an all-consuming, mind-bending, nail biting nightmare!
Not so much on the Hyundai products. They charge about twice as fast as most of the affordable competition. The only issue with them is finding a charger in a location where you need it. It’s getting better but it’s not there yet.
Lease because they know if they buy it there is no resale value..simply put these EVS don’t come close to gas for efficient long distance travel. Around town ,ok.
Power is KW, storage is KWH. BIG DIFFERENCE 😊
Lyriq charging is slow compared to others in this price range. GM needs to step this up.
Frustrating. Yes time is money. 1:26 min charging vs 3 min fill up on gas. Finding a charger vs a gas station in every corner.
on the lyriq, the 20" wheels vs the 22" , range cost and ride comfort compromis?
If you get an adapter you can use the tesla chargers at hotels. Fyi
Wouldn't the hotel have a Tesla destination wall chargers the to level 2 kind. You could just buy an adapter from Amazon and charge on that Tesla charger. It's not like a super charger. I have a Tesla wall charger in my garage that's been charging a ccs phev range Rover
Good video, very true to life. We are very happy with our Lyric great always having a full tank (80%) every time you leave the house. We've talked to other EV owners and universally they praise Petro Canada fast chargers as being well priced and in service. We received a $750 FLO charger credit when we purchased the vehicle, and are considering driving Toronto to Phoenix return for an adventure and to use up the credit. We are trying to understand what machines accept the FLO credit in the US but it's difficult to figure out. We were dismayed to see apps like my Cadillac and Charge Hub estimate the total charge expense to be around $1200 Cdn, that's more than twice it would cost to do the trip in my V6 gas engine SUV, still we're liking the idea of using super cruise on the 36 hour drive.
Great video! May I ask how much it cost you to charge the Lyriq at the charging station?
It's pretty hilarious to see the huge difference in comment sections where EV drivers are talking about their actual experience, versus where people who have never driven an EV are making comments about EVs.
(Or, dare I say, perhaps where people have been directed to make comments on behalf of someone)
EV owners tend to be very happy with their cars. Even in the case of GM and Ford, where road tripping is a bit weak compared to Tesla or Rivian, still the Lyriq and Bolt and Mach-e and Lightning drivers almost unanimously love their cars / trucks.
The contrast between people who have the experience, and those who don't, is really stark.
Happy Birthday to your daughter.😁
Let me start by saying this was an excellent video as a person thinking of entering the EV market and the lyric to top it off. It really help me with some thoughts I had and concerns though it did not settle my concerns. I’m still undecided not sure if I have the patience, plus I feel it’s gonna cause me to spend more money while waiting then if I just stopped at a gas station, I think once the adapter is out for the Tesla stations, it won’t be as bad
Glad you enjoyed it!
how comfortable are the seats on a good trip like this?
Power is measured in Kilowatts. It's the amount of energy the charging station pumps into the battery every second. Energy is measured in Kilowatt-hours. It is equal to the power (in kilowatts) multiplied by the time the battery was connected to the charging station. Hence kilowatt-hours.
Thank you for clarifying
I can fill up my suburban in Sarnia Ontario and almost make it to Bowling Green KY 150km short of getting there in one tank and I would get there in one day. Good video and has confirmed to me that the world is not ready for electric vehicles. This experience seemed frustrating can you imagine if everyone had one and you had to wait for an available charger. Disaster.
I'm picturing how this comment section would go over in 2075, if someone were to hold it up to scrutiny.
Let's see . . . great grampa was more worried about how long it took to fill up on his twice a year road trip, than he was about our ability to grow crops in the plains states.
@@davidmenasco5743 yeah the grumpy folks don’t seem to pay any attention to the fact that we’re rapidly destroying the planet. But it’s true that EV’s need to get better for mass acceptance and they need to do it fast.
What the hell is a Kilometer?
How much is the cost of a typical fast charge in Ontario? I’ve only seen videos comparing costs in the USA :)
jesus that intro music blew my ears out!!
No SuperCruise?
Charging infrastructure is better (more reliable) in Canada than it is in America and Charge America is what Volkswagen did for that diesel fiasco so I can’t say that I believe in their honest desire to do things up front and in an honest manner (imo)
Honest question I was looking at the Cadillac Lyriq and Blazer Ev should I wait to purchase until the update the chargers equipped in the vehicles, or will they be able to software update or retrofit to the 2024's?
There will be a software update and an ad adaptor that will be available once the integration is complete
This is the type of video I like to see revolving around EV's though it's worth mentioning that a lot of plotting apparently went into preparing for your trip.
So until EV charging capacity approaches parity with gas stations they will be a hard sell for a lot of people.
On your first charging stop, you used the 350kw charger. Was that the only one available? If there were smaller chargers there, why would you plug into the 350kw when your batteries won't take that charge? Seems to me you are blocking other cars that could use the higher powered chargers.
I believe all the chargers at the GM Energy sites are the same.
But if there were 150kW chargers, the Lyriq would charge significantly slower on them. The 350kW chargers provide both more power and more current, and a faster charge.
For more details, you can see the comment by NewsCoulomb on the video at the State of Charge channel, about road tripping in a Lyriq.
Lithium powered EVs are still a new technology, and a lot of learning is taking place around them. These videos are very helpful as part of that process.
The GM cars do much better with a 350 charger even though they can only pull 175 kw. It’s all about voltage and over my head. But that is how they are.
I get the idea of testing the range but Taking a lyric to a corvette get together?
I am taking my Corvette down again this year, so I figured if I’m already gonna be going down once with my Corvette I might as well do something different and test myself
I'd take the Lyriq any day. But that's just me.
Dude, yes, you are VERY new to EV'S and do not understand EV'S yet, but you can learn. The size of the battery does NOT make batteries able to charge faster. It's the "C" rate and the makeup of the battery. Kia 77 kwh packs can charge around 220 to 240 kws. So that proves your statement wrong.
Charging infrastructure is better (more reliable) in Canada than it is in America and Charge America is what Volkswagen did for that diesel fiasco so I can’t say that I believe in their honest desire so do things up front and in an honest manner (Imo)
Nice job, however that’s way to much screwing around to get charged and way to time consuming, what if it’s pouring rain, there is so many negative things regarding EVs, especially in this trip senerio, to bad I really like the style of the lyric, I would buy one if it had a nice V6 engine, it will be years before this makes sense. Thanks for all your efforts.
I’m liking seeing the reality of things. I do think that the tech level Lyriq charging speed is not as high as the luxury and sport models. 😊
Having 19 speakers and the super cruise would have made your experience more fun. But those are on trim level 2. 😬
There is no difference in charging speeds on the different trim levels. They are all less than stellar.
Interesting. I just acquired a Cadillac Lyriq. I haven’t done any fast charging on the road yet, but I remember reading that the maximum kilowatt capacity on the road was (77 miles per hour, DC charging).
on the Tech was 11.57 KW, (31 miles per hour, AC charging), while the Luxury and Sport were 19.2 KW, (51 miles per hour, AC charging) level 2.
I assumed there was an advantage for high speed charging as well (on the Luxury or Sport) when on a road trip.
I honestly don’t know now. 🤷🏻♂️
The people talking about Lyriq’s slow charging are comparing Lyiq’s 400volt architecture to cars with 800volt architecture. They are talking about dc fast charging.
You are right about the Lyriq’s ac charging. It is faster than most, especially with the upgrade.
To be fair the Lyriq has a longer range than cars like the Hyundai that charge faster than it.
Powerful
The more people post on their trips in EVS,the more people realize they are not the way to go as a main vehicle. They are better suited to around town errands.
Sounds like you haven't seen too many Tesla road trip videos. Tesla drivers have no trouble with road trips. Enter the destination in the navigation system, and relax.
@@davidmenasco5743 I’ve seen many of them. Nothing positive. EV DAVE,OUT OF SPEC DAVE. Every 150 miles or so stopping to charge. Trying to find a working charger that’s going to charge fast. To charge fully takes a long time. It is a financial wreck for many companies. How many have filed for bankruptcy. Tesla works because they built their own chargers. As I’ve said around town fine,long distance doesn’t work. Watch the CEO of Ford with his EV truck. Disaster. What percentage of EV owners are going back to ICE, and why? EV S will never account for a high percentage in sales and use. Nobody is addressing the fact that outside of Tesla nobody is buying a used EV,why? What are you going to do with all those depleted batteries. Most people are leasing them and they’re not going back for seconds. Face the facts,EV’S have place but not as your main vehicle. And lastly look at what the winter does to the batteries half your range gone until the spring. Enjoy.
@@nathanielwilson1899 Gosh, FUD much? You're making up so much stuff, it's hard to know where to begin.
Let's see, something like 75% of the EVs on the road in the US are Teslas. And Teslas really have no problem with road trips.
You are grossly misrepresenting EV road trip videos. The VAST MAJORITY of these videos feature Teslas. And almost every one demonstrates that road tripping in a Tesla is no problem.
Your comment about used EVs makes absolutely no sense. Every used car that drives, sells. It's just a question of price. Right now, many EVs depreciate almost as fast as a gas powered BMW. But, it's a new, cutting edge technology. So OF COURSE THEY DO.
As far as batteries, every company that recycles batteries wants them. And several companies specialize in just recycling lithium ion batteries and EV batteries.
But wait! When, eventually (after 20+ years) EV batteries lose enough capacity to be retired from the road, they still have about ten years of use left, for stationary storage applications. So it's gonna be a long time before those recyclers see very many EV batteries.
Last but not least, plenty of people never take long road trips, or do so only rarely. All of these people would be fine with any EV, except maybe the Leaf. We're talking about close to half of all drivers in this group alone.
Oh, and one more point: EVs will eventually reach very close to 100% of auto sales. As the impacts from climate change keep worsening, at an accelerating rate, the transition to EVs will only become that much more urgent.
Size of battery has nothing to do with it. It has to do with thermal management and GM sucks at that.
I would never road trip in a EV unless I had free supercharger miles or if the trip was 500 miles or less and even in that case I better have free or very cheap destination charging otherwise what’s the point.
Stops don’t have to be like a NASCAR pit crew, but sometimes you WANT them to be or NEED them to be. I want to be the one to make the decision, not the car. Your experience was far from worst-case and still highlighted a number of frustrations with EV road trips. Sorry, but I have zero interest in road tripping any EV, especially when traveling with kids who just want to get where we’re going. And the previous poster who mentioned security concerns at charging stations made a very valid point that you disingenuously blew off. Sorry, you can’t say sitting at a gas station for 5 minutes filling up is anything close to comparable to sitting at a DC charging station for 40+ minutes . It’s just not, and everyone knows it. Granted, it would help if the Lyriq had a better charging curve, which is a common criticism.
I appreciate you and the channel, and I even appreciate a lot of the qualities of EVs. I particularly like how smooth and quiet they are. However, road tripping one seems like a last resort option, despite the spin you seemed to put on your experience.
Touche that sometimes you don’t want to embrace the time to change and your on a tight schedule, however I don’t think there are many occasions in a given period of time where you can drive 505km uninterrupted. Especially if you have kids. They don’t have the attention span or bladder to be able to handle that kind of stint. And if you do have kids, it’s going to take at least 20 min to get them to disembark from the car (car seats) and feed them and go to the bathroom. In that time you have now added another 200+ km to your range. This now equates to 700km, I wouldn’t want to do more then that with kids even if it was a gas vehicle.
As for safety that’s a difficult one to answer without more context, I live in canada and we are not concerned about our safety sitting in our car while it charges. I understand that this may be a concern in other parts of the world and I will take that into consideration when I do the second part.
Your such a negative person, emmy
Cadillac lyrics are the best
having road tripped over 150k miles all over the US in EVs (Chevy Bolt, BMW i4, Cadillac Lyriq), from northern maine to las vegas, and everything between. i have hundreds and hundreds of dcfast charging sessions and not one single time have I ever not felt safe. My wife drove cross crountry multiple times in our Bolt in 2019 by herself. I have never been approached by a person for any reason other than just being curious about the technology. anyone spouting off nonsense about not being safe is just selling fear.
And you never ever drive more than 120-200miles with kids, its impossible. We all have kids or have had kids, we know. And its also impossible to get them in and out of a car, bathrooms, drinks, food, and any other thing happening in less than 20+ mins. In the lyriq, thats wayyy over 2+ more hours of driving. In my BMW, that like 240 miles at 80mph. So a miserable 3hrs, which i wont do, i like being hydrated, going to the bathroom and making sure i avoid DVTs. 2hrs is plenty in one setting.
day i bought my lyriq, i went from
las cruces NM--> springfield MO--> lake geneva WI--> Denver CO--> salt lake city UT--> Denver CO--> des moines IA--> atlanta GA --> las cruces NM. 8400 miles in 4 weeks with all the secondary driving around. Just a big fun 19 state road trip with some of my family, sometimes alone, And Ive never felt inconvenienced. My GF thinks the BMW charges too fast, and i have to agree, you start rushing to get back to it because its craming in miles of range you dont need. The lyriq is more reasonable charge times. I only have to wait on it if i do something dumb like decide to drive a 3-4hr stint.. which is slower over all time than just splashing the bottom and leap frogging chargers.
today i drove from dallas to las cruces while my GF flew, she left 30 mins after me, but only beat me by a couple hours.
EVs are amazingly fun to road trip. Far better than any gas car.
One mitigating point about that security concern. Don't EV owners spend many fewer stops per year at the filling station? If your point is that those stops come with a danger element, then there's a counterpoint for EVs.
Way too much time spent charging. Ya, not for me. Nice car but I’ll keep my ICE car for travel. Perhaps a hybrid for running around the city. Thx.
Man that's a lot of work compared to my Telsa
Putting your home address in this video may not be a good idea.
Good thing I moved this weekend
@@Cars_and_Crosbie Smart man. Love your videos. So glad you got a better mic. :)
I was so close to buying a Lyriq but now can’t see letting a charger and a car controlling my life. When the technology gets to super charge in 10 mins I’ll buy. What happens when the battery dies in traffic? You were so close before getting to Mercedes.
What happens when you run out of fuel in traffic?
@ call triple A they bring me gas.
To much trouble stop at a gas station fill it up and go Comon
I appreciate the effort but you are giving out so much mis-information and mis-stated information . Just wow.
Elaborate
@@Cars_and_Crosbie KW is a rating of power being supplied. kWh is a rating of storage. you have it backwards. The size of your battery has little to nothing to do with how much charge it takes. I love you re trying to spread news about EV's but wow if you are not sure what you are talking about then do some research or ask for help.
@@Cars_and_Crosbie you don’t seem to understand the difference between kilowatts and kilowatt hours. And you’re not using the terms in the right places in the video.
@@dugintexas7908 This is nitpicking. Lots of people know the difference between KW and kWh. For the rest, it functionally doesn't matter. You knew and I knew what he meant in this video anyway.
That does not seem like a smart way to travel yet!
Just don’t think we’re there yet.
I’ll buy an EV when I can consistently get 1000 km per charge. Then at least I know I can get as far as I want in a single day.
Great video and really puts the challenges into perspective.
How often do you drive 1000km in a day straight without taking a break?
Seriously for the sake of the planet you don’t think you could make one stop on a 600 mile trip? You have to stop to eat and go to the bathroom anyhow. MyHyundai recharges in 18 minutes. I have to hurry to get back to it because it’s usually done or nearly so. And much faster things are on the horizon. There’s no need to expect 600 mile or 1000 km range on an EV to make it a useful vehicle. We just need more places to charge them and they need to charge more quickly.
Seems like such a nice ride, but really needs at least 100 miles more range before I consider something like this.
nope.. 300 miles is WAYYYY more than enough. If you are hydrating, you will need to stop every couple hours. plug in, go take care of that stuff and it will have a couple hours more driving ready for you when you get back out to charger. more than that is a waste of resources and you would never need it
You're not selling the whole EV lifestyle! What an absolute hassle!! 🤣
Too much mental calculating to do a trip. There is no way my wife would ever go through all that planning. ICE cars may not be as efficient, but planning is so simple! Road trips are easier and faster.
Your wife might prefer a Tesla. The car does all the planning for you.
Just enter the destination in the navigation system, and the car will tell you where to stop and for how long.
Tesla drivers have no trouble with road trips, and most would never buy another ICE car.
Not that I have anything against the Lyriq. It seems to be a very nice car.
dont you think if everyone purhcased these EV vehicles they wouldn't be able to find a charging station without someone already charging their EV? ok i just saw this @31.41 charging costs $50?? WHAT is the point of getting an EV then LOL?
If everyone everyone everywhere bought an ev tonight the dc fast charging network would be overrun, but that is not happening is it?
The yt channel “Network Architect” documents new chargers being built. New ones are built every month.
DC fast charging can be as expensive as gas, but most of the time most of the people charge their cars at home which is significantly cheaper than fast charging.
A trip with a EV vehicle is no fun, its all about the next charging station.
OMG WAAAY TO MUCH WORK MAN!! I got halfway though this video and was exahausted! GET A HYBRID AND STOP WITH ALL THIS FOOLISH CRAP...OMG...
Nice review, but you keep mixing up kilowatts and kilowatt hours in the wrong places. You need to learn the difference. Also, the GM cars are very poor at charging speeds compared to the Hyundai products. I wonder when GM is going to catch up. My Hyundai charges from 10 to 80% in 18 minutes at a 350 kW charger. The GM products take more than twice that long. If they want mass acceptance, they’re gonna have to get the speed up drastically.
Thanks for the tips!
What a waste of time, you can keep your Evs young fellow.😎
I’m gonna show this video to my friends as a cautionary tale not to trust what dealership car sales bros tell them when buying a new EV. So much misinformation like someone else mentioned. Please make sure to learn about EVs and not provide misinformation to your clients since you said at the beginning you sold many of these cars.
How many car salesman are taking the initiative to try these new vehicles out and report what they have learned.
@@Cars_and_Crosbie You can take all the initiative you want, but providing misinformation to your clients who purchase these vehicles is wrong on many levels. How is GM ok with this? Hope they watch this video and at the very least send you for some EV specific sales training. Learn about the product first before making any more videos.
Out of curiosity what misinformation are you talking about?
I thought it was an informative video.
Great video. I have a Mach E. The Lyric and all EVs are not for the impatient and lazy people like me. 😢 Around town, they’re great. Road trips are an all-consuming, mind-bending, nail biting nightmare!
Not so much on the Hyundai products. They charge about twice as fast as most of the affordable competition. The only issue with them is finding a charger in a location where you need it. It’s getting better but it’s not there yet.
Lease because they know if they buy it there is no resale value..simply put these EVS don’t come close to gas for efficient long distance travel. Around town ,ok.