Unfortunately, my lyric is a Cadillac now after multiple times. It’s had a lot of DC fast charging issues and they are working on a buyback. They’re fine if you don’t road trip often but if your road trip every week like I do, it won’t work.It’s inconsistent.
They are amazing vehicles and wonderful to drive super quiet and super comfortable but I would not recommend one yet. They have major DC fast charging issues. Mine has been at the dealership multiple times and is currently sitting there waiting for a buyback offer. I’ve only been able to drive it less than 3000 miles over the last six months because it’s had so many issues. I’m sure they resolve it in the future but be patient.
@@briannacc3983 it’s not from abuse and dc fast charging is generally fine and doesn’t really impact the long term life that much. I’ve had 6 EVs and have 100k plus miles of fast charging. With that being said - this has less than 3000 miles on it. It’s a defective car.
Being able to use the Tesla Supercharger network is THE game changer. With a Lyriq or any GM vehicle the most important thing is trying not to block other Charger stations which means you look for the stall that is vertical to the parking slot if it is available.
I enjoyed this video. I just bought my first EV. I didn't want to spend a lot of money on it because I consider it my EV learner vehicle - there's a lot to learn. Now that I've had it for a few weeks, I know I did the right thing. Once I get some experience under my belt with public charging and road trips, I'll be looking to trade for a luxury EV and the Lyric is my #1 choice - I'm a luxury vehicle kinda guy. For now, my 2025 Chevy Equinox is a great start. Thanks for teaching me a few things about public charging.
I Make a similar drive up to Kansas often in my Lyriq and was surprised to see you stopped at my favorite evgo charger. Glad you enjoy the Lyriq as much as I enjoy it.
Thanks for the video. Reinforced my thinking that they aren't quite ready for prime time. At my age, I judge a car on how well it gets me to my destination without fuss. BTW, I live in Tulsa and drive to Dallas once in a while. Always take HWY 75.
Tesla has a newer supercharger 24 stall station at the below address. I think about 20 miles apart. Tulsa Hills Shopping Center, 7380 S Olympia Ave, Tulsa, OK 74132
Dude, you got 2.2 Kw/mile in 90 deg weather driving 70-80 mph. These conditions, like driving in the cold here up north are battery killers. Try driving a POS Jaguar I-Pace which has trouble getting 2 kw/mile rolling downhill with the car off. The contrast couldn't be more stark. The Lyriq will get over 300 miles in easier driving conditions (lower highway speeds or mixed riving and cooler temps)
Very true and good point!! I guess it’s all about perspective. I was comparing to our Rivian R1T which has averaged around 2.5 mi/kWh and is a heavy less area vehicle.
Pretty much echoes the road trip I did last June in my ID.4, though my range was considerably less - I was making the trip at 80-85 mph. One of the great contractions of an EV - they are MAGNIFICIENT on the highway, but on long, flat stretches of Interstate where you can really stretch its' legs, your range definitely suffers. On the other hands, heading up to the mountains here in Colorado is absolutely painless - you use a lot more charge going up, but coming down on steep grades, you just set the cruise for 75, and the car recharges itself on the fly.
Agreed 100% - you've obviously road tripped a good bit in EVs to have that knowledge. I've learned the over the years as well... I wouldn't go back to bio fuel at this point....
It's not really, there are enough chargers for it to not really matter. Im from Ohio, drove to Long Island, new york without any issues, drove to Atlanta without any issues, drove to Detroit without any issues all without access to Tesla's chargers.
@ I’ve been driving CCS electric for 5 years, and with proper planning long range trips can be successfully completed. However, in some spots access to Tesla SuC would have been helpful for me.
@@BillB33525 yeah it’s really helped in both the Rivian and the Cadillac. I absolutely love having the supercharger access. Right now I’m in the model Y driving to the Dallas Fort Worth area and my wife is in the Rivian R1 T. We’re both going to meet at the Bucee’s Tesla supercharger in Terrell Texas to charge. amazing.
@@TrustedInsaller Keep in mind - that's you - an experienced EV owner. Think about someone's grandma - there needs to be WAY more chargers and WAY more options for mass adoption. Only 8% of new cars in 3rd quarter were EVs. Imagine a future with more than 50% EVs being sold. We need everything to work together.
@@RigginTheRod010 yeah on a road trip you shouldn’t need to fill up. It should be a 15 minute charge will get you from 10% to nearly 80%. However Cadillac is still figuring out the issues with some of these.
@@RigginTheRod010 It's definitely a mental thing - once you have an EV - you won't care as long as you have 250+ miles. That's about as far as you want to drive without stopping for a quick 10 minute break anyway. Also - most people only road trip once per year and it doesn't really matter in that case. Around town - they get more than predicted - on the highway - they get less range than predicted. It's interesting once you have one - it changes your perspective for sure.
@@icycold9406 they have apps and also show live status in route in the car navigation. Kind of like a gas station. If it’s out of service go to the next one. One difference you can plug into about any electrical outlet if you need to.
I bought mine from Cadillac - but you can buy one from A2Z or from Lectron. I would recommend the A2Z typhoon pro adapter. They are not a sponsor currently - but they have plenty of discount codes out there online. I would order that one - it's very good.
Francis Energy is in the business of installing chargers and then just abandoning them. That sign that says awaiting on manufacturer parts has been on there for more than a year. There's a Francis station on I-40 that's had that sign on it for more than two years.
Actually - to get the discounted charging rate on your non-tesla - you have to pay for the discount rate plan. It allows me to charge my other EVs on that plan. Even owning a Tesla - you still have to buy down the price with that plan. You can charge without it - but the prices are around $.50-$.55/per kWh.
@ no membership is required, but to get the reduced charging rate, you have to buy it. At least that’s what I’ve been told. I don’t have to have the membership. It’ll work without it. I just pay more.
Was there a reason why you stopped so often at such a high state of charge? Over 50% in a lyriq should be like 120-150 miles till you actual need to stop.
just testing it because so many people have had charging issues - mine was GREAT until the return trip from Tusla - I stopped at 10% twice on the way back and the charging dropped below 100kW at 30% and below 50kW at 40%. Just awful. Cadillac had the Lyriq this week for a few days and updated the BMS software and claim they fixed it. I'm waiting to get to a low SOC to test again.
@@ByTesla237shouldn't you be focused on getting to your destination like the average American? No real life drivers will be stopping at every charge port.
@@ByTesla237 That might be one of the reasons why you're getting 2.3 mi/kwh lol. Do you know if the motors decouple to only have one operating during highway speeds?
Not to knock you.... But if you're already stopped and charging fast, why take off to just stop again. Especially when it seems like you can make it and then charge at your destination? I drive a Cadillac, My work is only 1.7 mi from my house, so I'd really like an electric car I think, but I'm more of a sedan guy, I wish they'd make an electric CT5
It’s a balance of time versus charging speed. The fuller the battery is slower than charging rate. Many times it makes sense to get a quick splash and dash and move onto the next charging stop
I wanted a lyriq until I did research on the battery and motors. It charges way to slow. I went with a Tesla m9del y performance and a model x plaid. Both charge fast and i could now NEVER own a car without FSD. full self driving.
@@josephz9006 makes total sense. I’m working through this. It’s painful. I do have a Tesla cyber truck and a Rivian R1 T so I know what good charging should be. I’ve also had two model wise and two model X.
With the lyriq having a 112kw battery it should charge at 300kw for a while and blow tesla out the water. Hopefully they fix this. Or they don't trust the battery one. Or sub standard cooling.
Serious question, I've never had an electric car and I'm thinking about getting one What happens when you drive at 100 mph for an extended time, does it halve your range? I make frequent trips from Dallas to Houston, and I average at least 90 plus miles per hour. Seems like everyone I watch talk about electric cars keeps it pretty slow on the freeway for efficiency.
I watched the entire video it was very entertaining... love Cadillac
I live in Tulsa and have a lot of friends in Dallas and I plan of buying a Lyriq one so this is a trip I have been thinking about thank you
Unfortunately, my lyric is a Cadillac now after multiple times. It’s had a lot of DC fast charging issues and they are working on a buyback. They’re fine if you don’t road trip often but if your road trip every week like I do, it won’t work.It’s inconsistent.
Great video! I love seeing real world use by a real world person. I'm very interested in purchasing a Lyric in the near future.
They are amazing vehicles and wonderful to drive super quiet and super comfortable but I would not recommend one yet. They have major DC fast charging issues. Mine has been at the dealership multiple times and is currently sitting there waiting for a buyback offer. I’ve only been able to drive it less than 3000 miles over the last six months because it’s had so many issues. I’m sure they resolve it in the future but be patient.
@@ByTesla237hi!! was your Lyriq issues a one-off or due to abuse of supercharging? DC fast charging isn't the preferred method to charge.
@@briannacc3983 it’s not from abuse and dc fast charging is generally fine and doesn’t really impact the long term life that much. I’ve had 6 EVs and have 100k plus miles of fast charging.
With that being said - this has less than 3000 miles on it. It’s a defective car.
Being able to use the Tesla Supercharger network is THE game changer. With a Lyriq or any GM vehicle the most important thing is trying not to block other Charger stations which means you look for the stall that is vertical to the parking slot if it is available.
totally agree - and complete game changer - looking forward to more V4 cabinets with longer cables to eliminate any "cablegate" issues.
Cadillac is finally the standard of the world.
Haha. Not quite but a nice car. Not a great EV.
I enjoyed this video. I just bought my first EV. I didn't want to spend a lot of money on it because I consider it my EV learner vehicle - there's a lot to learn. Now that I've had it for a few weeks, I know I did the right thing. Once I get some experience under my belt with public charging and road trips, I'll be looking to trade for a luxury EV and the Lyric is my #1 choice - I'm a luxury vehicle kinda guy. For now, my 2025 Chevy Equinox is a great start. Thanks for teaching me a few things about public charging.
Congrats! The equinox is a GREAT EV!! I hope you enjoy and I'm glad you found use with my videos!
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Make a similar drive up to Kansas often in my Lyriq and was surprised to see you stopped at my favorite evgo charger. Glad you enjoy the Lyriq as much as I enjoy it.
@@krbuck very cool! The Lyriq is amazing!!
Thanks for posting this
@@jimoconnell2378 appreciate the feedback!!
They just built that charging station in Lubbock tx where I live
I think I’ve changed at that one.
Thanks for the video. Reinforced my thinking that they aren't quite ready for prime time. At my age, I judge a car on how well it gets me to my destination without fuss. BTW, I live in Tulsa and drive to Dallas once in a while. Always take HWY 75.
@@lefturn99 yeah I just took 75 back on Friday. I was in Tulsa. Drove my cyber truck back.
Tesla has a newer supercharger 24 stall station at the below address. I think about 20 miles apart.
Tulsa Hills Shopping Center, 7380 S Olympia Ave, Tulsa, OK 74132
I’ve actually charged that one recently too. It’s amazing. Thanks for sharing.
Dude, you got 2.2 Kw/mile in 90 deg weather driving 70-80 mph. These conditions, like driving in the cold here up north are battery killers. Try driving a POS Jaguar I-Pace which has trouble getting 2 kw/mile rolling downhill with the car off. The contrast couldn't be more stark. The Lyriq will get over 300 miles in easier driving conditions (lower highway speeds or mixed riving and cooler temps)
Very true and good point!! I guess it’s all about perspective. I was comparing to our Rivian R1T which has averaged around 2.5 mi/kWh and is a heavy less area vehicle.
That P.F.J. in Ardmore is a great stop. I visited it last year.
Totally agreed. Love watching your videos and thanks for watching my real world shoot from the hip videos. Your editing is amazing!!
Pretty much echoes the road trip I did last June in my ID.4, though my range was considerably less - I was making the trip at 80-85 mph. One of the great contractions of an EV - they are MAGNIFICIENT on the highway, but on long, flat stretches of Interstate where you can really stretch its' legs, your range definitely suffers. On the other hands, heading up to the mountains here in Colorado is absolutely painless - you use a lot more charge going up, but coming down on steep grades, you just set the cruise for 75, and the car recharges itself on the fly.
Agreed 100% - you've obviously road tripped a good bit in EVs to have that knowledge. I've learned the over the years as well... I wouldn't go back to bio fuel at this point....
Having Tesla SuperCharger access is a big help on road trips.
@@BillB33525 absolutely - it’s a game changer
It's not really, there are enough chargers for it to not really matter. Im from Ohio, drove to Long Island, new york without any issues, drove to Atlanta without any issues, drove to Detroit without any issues all without access to Tesla's chargers.
@ I’ve been driving CCS electric for 5 years, and with proper planning long range trips can be successfully completed. However, in some spots access to Tesla SuC would have been helpful for me.
@@BillB33525 yeah it’s really helped in both the Rivian and the Cadillac. I absolutely love having the supercharger access. Right now I’m in the model Y driving to the Dallas Fort Worth area and my wife is in the Rivian R1 T. We’re both going to meet at the Bucee’s Tesla supercharger in Terrell Texas to charge. amazing.
@@TrustedInsaller Keep in mind - that's you - an experienced EV owner. Think about someone's grandma - there needs to be WAY more chargers and WAY more options for mass adoption. Only 8% of new cars in 3rd quarter were EVs. Imagine a future with more than 50% EVs being sold. We need everything to work together.
I'd love to have a Lyriq.... If it was a hybrid or had a TTV6. It bothers me it takes over an hour to charge vs 5 mins to fill up.
@@RigginTheRod010 yeah on a road trip you shouldn’t need to fill up. It should be a 15 minute charge will get you from 10% to nearly 80%.
However Cadillac is still figuring out the issues with some of these.
@@ByTesla237 when EVs start going 400+ miles without having to add weight to the car that's when my anxiety will go down
@@RigginTheRod010 It's definitely a mental thing - once you have an EV - you won't care as long as you have 250+ miles. That's about as far as you want to drive without stopping for a quick 10 minute break anyway. Also - most people only road trip once per year and it doesn't really matter in that case. Around town - they get more than predicted - on the highway - they get less range than predicted. It's interesting once you have one - it changes your perspective for sure.
What happens when you get to your charging station and it’s not working? 😳
@@icycold9406 they have apps and also show live status in route in the car navigation. Kind of like a gas station. If it’s out of service go to the next one. One difference you can plug into about any electrical outlet if you need to.
Can you share a link to the adapter you have? I have the Lexus RZ CCS charger and would like to access NACS superchargers.
I bought mine from Cadillac - but you can buy one from A2Z or from Lectron. I would recommend the A2Z typhoon pro adapter. They are not a sponsor currently - but they have plenty of discount codes out there online. I would order that one - it's very good.
@ thank you for sharing!
Weird that Supercruise couldn't be used in the highway even with construction. It should be able to lane trace
Yeah for sure. It’s only for mapped highways and gets confused if they are different.
What is “super cruise” and why can’t you use it?
@@roncraft2042 it’s basically autopilot on mapped highways. It’s just not great and often won’t turn on.
Francis Energy is in the business of installing chargers and then just abandoning them. That sign that says awaiting on manufacturer parts has been on there for more than a year. There's a Francis station on I-40 that's had that sign on it for more than two years.
Yeah Francis is just terrible from my experience. Actually worse than EA.
How much was the charging session at those Francis chargers for ya? @@ByTesla237
Great video man. You dont need to pay for a Tesla membership since you already own a Tesla.
Actually - to get the discounted charging rate on your non-tesla - you have to pay for the discount rate plan. It allows me to charge my other EVs on that plan. Even owning a Tesla - you still have to buy down the price with that plan. You can charge without it - but the prices are around $.50-$.55/per kWh.
@ByTesla237 that's interesting because I read on the Tesla website that no membership was required. If you are a current tesla owner.
@ no membership is required, but to get the reduced charging rate, you have to buy it. At least that’s what I’ve been told. I don’t have to have the membership. It’ll work without it. I just pay more.
@@ByTesla237 Yeah that makes sense
Be life hack I use. In a LUYRIQ, say Hey Google, how much battery do I have left. You can get the percentage that way
great PRO tip - thank you!
@@ByTesla237sweet vid sweep of Ardamore, OK. Place got it ALL. Stay safe . Loved the vid
@@thenetworkarchitectchannel haha - thanks much!
Was there a reason why you stopped so often at such a high state of charge? Over 50% in a lyriq should be like 120-150 miles till you actual need to stop.
just testing it because so many people have had charging issues - mine was GREAT until the return trip from Tusla - I stopped at 10% twice on the way back and the charging dropped below 100kW at 30% and below 50kW at 40%. Just awful. Cadillac had the Lyriq this week for a few days and updated the BMS software and claim they fixed it. I'm waiting to get to a low SOC to test again.
@@ByTesla237shouldn't you be focused on getting to your destination like the average American? No real life drivers will be stopping at every charge port.
You going 74 mph in a 60 mph speed limited when you were on i44 in Tulsa lol
@@ICU306 must’ve missed the sign….
Is this an AWD with the 22" wheels?
Yes sport 3
@@ByTesla237 That might be one of the reasons why you're getting 2.3 mi/kwh lol.
Do you know if the motors decouple to only have one operating during highway speeds?
@@Landonc95yeah the wheels and tires definitely hurt. I do not know if it decouples the motor.
@@ByTesla237 Just looked that your AWD Lyriq has two permanent motors so there is no possibility of them ever decoupling.
Thanks
@@Landonc95thanks for sharing. Great info and part of the inefficiencies….
Not to knock you....
But if you're already stopped and charging fast, why take off to just stop again. Especially when it seems like you can make it and then charge at your destination?
I drive a Cadillac, My work is only 1.7 mi from my house, so I'd really like an electric car I think, but I'm more of a sedan guy, I wish they'd make an electric CT5
It’s a balance of time versus charging speed. The fuller the battery is slower than charging rate.
Many times it makes sense to get a quick splash and dash and move onto the next charging stop
I wanted a lyriq until I did research on the battery and motors. It charges way to slow. I went with a Tesla m9del y performance and a model x plaid. Both charge fast and i could now NEVER own a car without FSD. full self driving.
@@josephz9006 makes total sense. I’m working through this. It’s painful. I do have a Tesla cyber truck and a Rivian R1 T so I know what good charging should be. I’ve also had two model wise and two model X.
With the lyriq having a 112kw battery it should charge at 300kw for a while and blow tesla out the water. Hopefully they fix this. Or they don't trust the battery one. Or sub standard cooling.
@ it charges at a max of 190kW. It definitely has thermal and battery Managment issues.
Your efficiency will be reduced at 85 mph.
Very true - but this is my 6th EV. This one is less efficient than the other ones. It’s poor even at 65mph.
My 24 Sport 3 AWD does 2.8/9 on trips DFW to Little Rock going 75, which on that trip seems to be the sweet spot for min time and kw used balance
@@jimoconnell2378 that’s pretty good for this vehicle. My lifetime is 2.4.
@@ByTesla237I’ve found using 3.0 @ 65mph in the ABRP app is very accurate as long as it’s not real cold
Serious question, I've never had an electric car and I'm thinking about getting one
What happens when you drive at 100 mph for an extended time, does it halve your range?
I make frequent trips from Dallas to Houston, and I average at least 90 plus miles per hour.
Seems like everyone I watch talk about electric cars keeps it pretty slow on the freeway for efficiency.
Lol
Funny
Why wouldany ne buy electric car? That was pain in the X out in nwhere.
@@rampar77 many many reasons. You will learn. Just stay focused and keep watching videos like this.