650 HP Corvette Z06 vs. Stingray Z51 7-Speed Manual | Is Slower Sometimes Better?!
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Hey guys and welcome! Today Marcus jumps behind the wheel of an American icon in the global sports car arena, pitting two very different models of Corvettes against each other in the mountains of Southern California. We begin with the C7 Corvette Z06 8-speed auto, packing a massive 6.2L supercharged LT4 V8 under the hood, pushing 650 HP and 650 LB/FT of torque. If that wasn't already enough to get your ears bleeding, we also brought along a C7 Corvette Stingray with the Z51 Performance package, but this ones got the 7-speed manual! It'll be an interesting American shootout between these to monsters. Hope you guys enjoy it!
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"We race because we're not allowed to go to war." - ยานยนต์และพาหนะ
Having owned Corvettes for over 40 years, since I was 17, I can't imagine not having a manual transmission. There's just something about left foot-right hand coordination when stomppin' on the gas...oh what a feelin'! It can't be imitated even with an auto and paddles.
Still Living the Dream in my '17 Z06 3LZ
Does your 17 z06 has overheating issue?
Too bad the new one debuting tonight is rumored to only be available automatic
how you feel about that flat plane crank c8 tho?
Me too sir I just got a 2017 3lz z06 7 spd and it's amazing .
@olympicasseater hell no that was auto's from 2015-2016 the 2017 18 and 19 are fixed you can tell by the blower the 2017 on is a square not tapered
I do live in Italy, i remember being a little kid when my father started growing up his business, and extend it outside Italy, then Europe until he reached US and Canada.
His first big customer in Canada used to come picking my father up at the airport in Toronto in his beautiful Yellow C5.
my father always told me story when back home of this amazing yellow corvette, and how powerful it was.
i always grown up with this Myth of this corvette, that to me was more than a car, was the emblem of the success in a big country like Canada, starting from a small place in Italy.
20 years later, after years of hard work, here i am, driving my C7 Corvette, with an huge smile every day in my face, and cruising my father around in it, bringing some beautiful memories in his mind.
Corvette will always be more than a car to me, will just be the icon of something big done 😏
Great story! I picked up a c7 Stingray z51 last may and I run hime whenever i’m off work to hop in and take her for a spin! Admiral blue special edition bits black wheels all black carbon bits! Everyone thinks it’s a c8 lol. It looks nothing like the c8 but it just looks bad ass like the batmobile! I enjoy every second of it especially when you get a free on ramp green light to punch it!
What an epic comment and a beautiful story. The Corvette has so much legacy. Thank you for sharing this.
I survive the manual transmission on the C7 Z06 daily. It’s a blast to drive!
Do you still own it?
Same here!
Such an amazing car. I've always been an import lover....until I hopped in my buddy's C7 Z06 with the Z51 performance package..... most absolute terrifying and funnest ride along I've ever been in. Doing 140+ feels so smooth and stable on the freeway.....felt like a normal car doing 70. I respect the Z06 Z51 for life
The answer is yes. I'll always take a slower manual transmission and engagement over an automatic. Awesome video guys!
Exactly! If you just wanna go fast take a jet. If you want absolute control and fun, manual is the way!
Blake Swan 100%
I don't mind automatic transmissions, but NOTHING tests a driver's skill better than a manual. Pure driver and car engagement.
I agree with you wholeheartedly. The manual could be slower by a full second to 60 and I’d still take a manual any day of the week over an automatic.
Unfortunately they are taking the engagement out of it with the auto blip
Manual or automatic, I simply don’t care. A Vette is a Vette and at the end of the day you’re still smiling
Sorry Victor, I cant agree :) a Vette lets you smile from start to the end of the day ( and in Germany the most people, who see her -except Porsche etc drivers :) ).
Manual, no one wants a sports card in automatic, unless they cant drive stick, or they are lazy.
Girls don't care if it's auto or not anyway so I'd use the auto so I could play with other things.. in the car😼
Hahahaha manual is crazy is a killer my friend is having your entire body attach to the corvette . I got a z06 manual and I will never go for an auto transmisión , is like loosing the point of a sport vehicle
I'd have to disagree. To me a manual will always be more engaging to drive. I got rid of my Lexus ISF after a year because I got bored of the auto transmission.
I used to daily a C5 Corvette when I was 20 and I know several people who still do. They are surprisingly practical sports cars. Reliable, plenty of space and storage, gas milage isn't horrible at highway speeds, and they can put a big smile on your face whenever you like! 😁
10 years ago, I still remember the experience driving my fathers C5 Corvette for the first time. I use to daily an RSX Type-S with Bolt-ons at the time pushing 220whp but the C5 was my first attempt at american muscle and I honestly fell in love with the LS series ever since. It felt like I driving my very first budget super car. There's just nothing like the sound and feel of the LS. The corvette is definitely what I would consider an american icon. A legacy I'm passing onto my kids. Love the channel, keep up the good content.
I really wish they hadn't of nerfed the RSX suspension. The Integra with double wishbone was so much better to modify for handling/track. That K20 in the RSX was awesome though, especially the later model years that came with the updated cams and stuff.
@@jomaha9227 hope they bring back the integra or prelude, a 2000 integra with jdm headlights is my import of choice
Just picked up my 2016 C7 Z06 last week. Only had 3800 miles on it. Still smelled brand new! Bad ass car
Thoroughly enjoyed this video. I have a C7 Z 51 manual and it is even more outstanding than I ever thought it would be to drive! Great review of these two beautiful cars. Thank you also for giving the seven speed manual the accolades that it deserves.
I like that you're from Canada. I'm a U.S. citizen living up here in Canada. I own both the Viper GTS and Corvette Z06/07...... I drive the Vette all winter long with studded snow tires on it.........it's brilliant. Come on out to SK this winter and you can do a review of the car in -30C weather :)
I bought an '18 Grand Sport. Looking forward to posting more content on it. Really enjoyed this vid thanks! -Glen
No one daily drives Corvettes? I daily drive my 04 C5 Corvette and it’s a fine ride. Great video by the way.
Man you guys deserve so many more views then your getting the last few months. Please keep on working hard guys ! I love your videos.
After driving for 41 years and about 34 of those years in manuals I've switched to automatic and i don't miss much at all. Maybe revving the engine but i certainly don't feel less connected to the car or that the driving experience was diminished in any way. I also feel faster, i can paddle shift and engine brake, get the same noise downshifting too. I used to say the same thing about manual driving but i was wrong auto is just fine for me. Yeah I'm getting old too but not too old lol.
totally on point, sir!!
bingster 223
You're in the same bracket as myself, owned sticks all my life. My next car WILL be an auto, without a doubt.
I can see that, I'm still on the younger side so I enjoy manual except if I hit traffic.
Nothing wrong with an automatic. The technology in the C7s will keep the smile on your face for quite awhile. I’ve got a manual C6 Z06 and and automatic C7 stingray and they are both loads of fun.
I will never buy an auto again ... soul-crushing boring (you won't even realize it until u get back into a manual and realize what you missed) ... autos are for the obese ppl who want to sip on their sugar poison drinks and mindlessly chat on their phones and drive like blind grandma until they get into another slow speed senile accident ruining the flow of traffic for 1000s of other ppl and jacking up everyone's insurance rates.
Serious drivers need manuals. For the inattentive, enjoy ur self driving cars.
Autos may be faster in straight line but manuals make u a better, more focused driver.
Also, the world doesn't need anymore grandpa's driving 10miles under the speed limit because they lost the vision and balls to go fast.
Thank you for hitting all of the points I have been wondering about when deciding to get a Stingray or Z06. I too prefer a manual over auto, purely for the driving experience. Nice review. Much appreciated!
This intro is spot on. Just short enough but also very stylish.
Great video....blasting through the canyons and that tunnel burnout!! Well done. I think the C7 Z06 is my favorite vette.
Good job Marcus; you describe the character of these cars very well. I couldn’t agree with you more, which is why my money went for a C7 Grand Sport with the manual, a “sweet spot” Corvette if there ever was one. Cheers!
Daily my C5, Love every moment. Can’t wait to pick up a C7.
What wasn't mentioned is how easy this is to drive as a manual. In addition to automatic rev matching, this car applies the brakes to the wheels when you're on a hill.
Tremendous
Wow that’s fancy. On a hill I just pull the Ebrake, let the clutch grab, give it a little gas, release and go. It ain’t hard in any way, but it is tedious.
@@ryanrake2714 you actually don't have to release the ebrake.. if you have the c7 just go and it will do it itself..
It's to bad GM doesn't give the GS Corvette more power. Somewhere around 550 would be perfect. Then they'd have the Stingray at 460, GS at 550, Z06 at 650 and ZR1 at 755. With the added suspension and tire upgrades from the Z06 550Hp would make the GS a killer machine! And Chevy already had an engine in their performance section (on their website) that makes around 550 n/a power.
Maybe I should take over the Corvette program for GM!
Tbh I wouldnt doubt if the c8 GS gets a NA 6.2 with 500+hp
thorandmoljnir you should be working there excellent point and should be that
Most agree it should have been 500-550 but emission standards unfortunately
Heads/cam/headers - 550+ bhp pretty easy on a base c7 or GS. LMR packages with heads/cam/headers/AFM delete and a tune are getting 600hp for $10k, would be less if you do the work yourself. Really appealing option now that the base model c7 is going for around $35k used and I would be a lot less concerned about picking up a used base model than a used z06.
@@cavedog1279 I found a great deal in my area on a 2014 C7, $39k only 26,000 miles. Just wish I had the money for it
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Fully loaded 3LT
Procharged
Z51 package
Carbon package
Excellent video that really presented the absolute speed in driving these corvettes....you ve got a real future in youtubing as most guys have great difficulty in projecting that speed thats actually occuring.
After several test drives I had to go with the Manual. So much more fun! And Rev Match is enhanced on the stick! Yes the automatic is faster and I lost a few races due to not precise shifting. But I'll still take the manual all day!
This car is so fast I don't need the slight increased speed of the automatic.
Corvette...is America
Great comparison, thanks. Still feeling as though the GS is the one to have.
Fantastic review! I traded in my manual C7 Z51 for a manual C7 Z06 with the Z07 package. 2 wonderful cars! The Z06 is just insane
Great description of the C7 Z06! Plus Scary Fast!
My best friend has a C7 Z06 with the Z51 performance package.... the manual in the Z06 is absolutely terrifying. I love that car!!!! Great video man
Such an awesome video! I would love to drive a Z06 someday!
Adam Houston oh what Adam!? Nice to see you here 😆
I recently bought a C7-Z51 with the more exciting manual shift a couple of weeks after about two hours of viewing the C8 on TH-cam and the initial excitement wore off. My C7-Z51 is literally!!! horrifying from 0 -- 60 that reduces to extreme excitement followed by sheer pleasure of driving a very, very cool C7 Corvette Stingray with ground effects etc and a manual. Cops follow me a lot, so I have to resist the temptation to accelerate too often except in certain location and situation like entering a freeway with fast oncoming traffic giving me the excuse to accelerate terrifyingly fast. And it is so very beautiful to just look at in my driveway that I have to force myself to go inside my house. I do not require a Z06 as the Z51 package and standard shifting is quite stimulating to accelerate and drive just for the pleasure of it that is the reason I bought it.
I recently bought a z51 as well. I was contemplating z06 but didn't fit in my budget. I was in the market for FType SVR. I do miss the quick acceleration and sound of the Ftype but z51 is still super loud and does give the sports car feel.
Most underrated channel of all time! Love it dude
I am absolutely in love with the new Z06. I can’t get past its looks and sound of it. Even tho it’s the NEW model. It’s the best looking of them all. It looks more aggressive than the last model and performs better than the last. And not just that it’s also in the running for being in the same class as the Ferrari 458, McLaren 570s/650s and the Lamborghini Huracan especially for how much it is. It’s definitely my dream car
I agree. I think the C7 Z06 Corvette looks better than past generations.
I was going to buy a low mileage C7 Corvette this year but with the covid 19 pandemic I'm probably going to wait till spring I've been leaning towards the Z06 but after watching your video I'm really thinking about a stingray Z51 package with a manual transmission Thanks for the great video you really hit it on the head most videos are strictly Z06 vs. ZR1
Really LOVE what you said at the end ., adding to that 90% of the time we don’t use 90% of the power ., a manual Corvette is way different to an auto yet model to model doesn’t change driving much ., a manual 650 is about same as a manual M6 yet if either an auto the experience differs greatly 👍🏼👍🏿👍🏽
Beautifully shot and the commentary was spot on!
Cool video, I love the Z06 but in all honesty i couldn't justify the price increase from a Z51. I have 2 other boosted cars and i felt like the next car i got should be a proper NA motor. Heads, cam, headers, porter TB/intake manifold and a proper tune would be pretty much all I'd ever need. Best part is I get to do it myself and enjoy.
I drove a C5 Z05 Daily for 5 years. Previous owner dailied it for 6. 313K miles on the clock, no major malfunctions, and a dyno shows that it makes every horsepower it did new. Also, I threw it around Big Willow in 1:38.8, so it's not like the suspension was tired either. Drove it cross country twice, and on god knows how many road trips with the wife.
Such a great car. If my new Z51 didn't claim it's parking spot in my garage, I'd still have it!
Fantastic video! Canadians never seem to disappoint lol
After seeing the C8 reveal last year, I immediately purchased the C7 Z06.
You pick the better car because the C7 ZO6 has a real trunk
One of the finest videos I've seen and right where I am in my car selection. Trading my 2016 Z07 for the 2019 Z51 Stingray. This helped ease my mind !!
Just out of curiosity why would you do that?
Great review!!
loved the commentary. great video
My dad has the z51 manual it is a blast to drive. From putting it in track mode and rev match it’s so much fun. To drive in rain and turning on weather mode it just very cool how it very easy to control this car on any level of driving. Just the stock tires do not like to hook on cold days it’s same as track mode in the rain.
çok güzel video cekimler ve geçişler arasındaki sesler yani edit mükemmel. emeğinize sağlık. hiç bu arabaları alamasamda girip girip izliyorum.
Excellent video. Thank you.
Superb job!
Great vs video, I like your style for sure. I own a C7 Z06 auto trans and love it, however if it weren't for my wife wanting the auto, I would have bought the manual! I absolutely love that rev match too!
Brink of Speed the Rev match is pretty glorious
Edward Jackson yes sir it is!
I've daily driven a C6 Z51 6speed for years ... over 80K and it hibernates in the garage every winter. A C6 makes a great daily driver. You should try it.
Fun video to watch! Great job editing as well...
Perfect for getting the groceries 😃
I'm from Texas and I took the road through Frasier Park out to the west and i was mind blown how cool this road was 😄 gave the rental hell that day lol
Love love love your videos. I think a better comparison if given the opportunity should have been the c7 grand sport. Because it has the styling and all the sportiness handling and breaks of the z06 without the super charger. Also you can get the z06 in manual as well
Ok I can hit he like button..i forgot how much I love corvettes raw American muscle
Got myself a z51 2019 n i couldnt b happier. Its automatic too
TheMGSpy I just bought a 2019z51 I love it
Beautiful scenery, great review, very entertaining. Thank you. What would you think of a Zo6 manual varient? Would it be better than the stingray?
OMG, the first video I've seen in which the driver shift then puts his hand BACK ON THE WHEEL. Nice! Good for you. I am currently trying to decide between a Z51 and Z06. The roughly $17k price difference is not nothing to me so... Must have a manual and the magnetic shocks.
Incredible video this will definitely help me make my decision about trading in my Z51 for a z06
Couldn’t agree more , Amen 🙏🏽 & thank you for your honesty.
Oh daddy. THIS IS SOO LIT!!!!!!!!
Clorox Bleach lol I see you everywhere on TH-cam
Even though I like the C7 Z06/ZR1 more he might have sold me one the Z51 package. It’s been a dream of mine to get a vette and being newly divorced it just might be in my future. I also love the C6 Z06 and for about the same price a C6 ZO6 and C7 Z51 Run pretty similar. My bugaboo is the removable top. Can’t get that option on the C6. I could just see me on a Sunday taking the top off and going driving all day! Definitely think I would go manual!
Roads Untraveled Man, you couldn't be more wrong about people daily driving older Corvettes. My friend and I both daily drove C5 Corvettes in our early 20's, his was actually a Z06. On top of that, I knew at least 4 other guys from a Corvette club that daily drove C5 and C6 Corvettes. The C5 interior is not THAT bad, people exaggerate things... it is extremely comfortable, even on long rides and the interior holds up remarkably well if you know how to take care of it. I loved daily driving my C5, it was a better commuter than many "normal" cars I've owned or driven and I'll probably get another one someday.
6:21 Save the manuals! Awesome video! Both sound beastly.
*We need to get therapists for you manual transmission fetishists....*
COMRADE DONALD TRUMP Yes! And your opinion on the internet is the only valid one! Cheers! 🙋♂️
@@jerrybillings3039 drive an electric if you want a pedal crusher car.
I really love the way the quad exhausts are laid out to the rear end. And, overall, it is just a beautiful car.
Everytime i see this channel, i think Roads Unraveled would be a better name.
Awesome video!
I have a Z51 and it's been my daily driver for the last 2 years and literally the most amazing street car ever, or at least up there for daily reliability and drivablility with sick performance! Definitely recommend them to anyone that is in the market! About to get into a z06 soon so definitely excited!!
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What's the practical difference driving and power wise between the Stingray and the Z51 Stingray? I happened to get the regular one.
Practically, not much difference on a day-to-day basis for commuting, but when it comes to track performance or high speed spirited driving it does have its merits. The Z51 package has 2 extra inter-coolers in the rear side vents, and they are functional. One of the vents has a transmission cooler, and the other has a rear differential cooler which is a major necessity for hardcore driving/ track driving. Basically they are z06 inter-coolers in each vent in the rear. It also usually comes with magnetic ride control, which is one of the highest technology suspensions in the market.
I daily drive my C6Z06 except when it is snowing or at freezing temperature and below.
@@HerrinSchadenfreude From what i can tell, you get magnetic suspension standard (which is totally awesome), HUD, Better cooling (probably not that important on a daily unless you sit in traffic a lot), and bigger wheels.
Add the carbon fiber instrument panel, sport seats and full leather doors/dash and you will see how nice the interior can be.
Well done. Couldn't agree more.
I remember driving a C6 corvette in Need for speed some 14 years ago. And now today, I paid for a delivery on a red C7 Z51 corvette. :D
I daily drove my 02 C5 Z06......loved it. I daily drive whatever I get...whats the purpose of leaving it in garage except for Sundays? LOL
Yeah I was salty for a minute over the tail lights being changed, but I like them they way they are now, and it still doesn’t take long to realize when you’re behind a Stingray you’re in the presence of a Corvette.
I have a Z06 with a manual. Incredible.
13:10 Yes! Right? Manual is just fun. It’s not better for anymore for overall performance but it really makes the experience that much better.
I'd gladly give up .1 seconds faster 0-60mph (because u won't notice it and you'd be lying if you did) for a manual which is 10 times more fun. It's all about the fun.
@MrMr: automatic drivers look for excuses. I was in Paris and Belgium a month ago and everybody drove stick (even my rental minivan Renault Grand Scenic), and trust me you haven't seen traffic like this and I'm from LA.
just because people deal with it doesn't mean it doesn't suck lol
If u suck at driving stick, then it sucks even when there's no traffic. I was in Paris and Belgium a month ago and yes there was heavy traffic but driving stick is 2nd nature to me so no biggie along with 99% of other stick drivers there.
The only way I would want an automatic vette is if I lived in a large city and had a lot of commuting in stop and go city traffic...
@@ogmechsftw The autorev matching makes driving in traffic a lot better.
Best Corvette video ever!
Haha thanks :D I still have never driven a C5 Corvette. I promise i'll make that video epic.
manul if you want to feel the freedom of owning your driving and a feeling of knowing what u are doing this id the way to go
@13:30 I UPSHIFT just to DOWNSHIFT all the time in my C7 Z51!!!! No Active Rev Match b/c I needed to learn the car's RPM range, so if I'm shifting down 1 or 2 gears then I need to know the taps. I am still working on my heel toe technique, but when I get that down........I'm gonna be like Matt Farah in the hills!
Super good edit
If the Z06 has the 10 speed auto from the ZL1 camaro, then that right there is the perfect combo!
Love my 19 manual z51 it's soooooo nice
False myth on interiors "falling apart" on C5s and C6s...maybe for C4s.
Independence City Motoring my c5 interior was in good shape 15 years later with 150k miles on it
Ha, ha... I got a Z51 stick, and I can’t help myself from keeping rev match on permanently and downshifting through every gear anytime I hit a stoplight. It’s fun 😅...
I love how you said that it's "hunting for gears" in the Auto.... I can't stand that feeling and it makes it sound like you have no clue how to drive... Won't trade my manual gearbox for ANYTHING, EVER....
I picked a 2019 Z06 black on black coupe! Stage 3 aero-
AUTOMATIC "Of Course"....... 😊❤
The Grandsport is where GM made a mistake . It had to be 500 hp like the ls7 to separate it from the stingray . Now it’s only the body ,tires and 5 hp? Come on man 😂😂😂 . Nice video bro ... Good music , beautiful mountains, great racetrack, awesome cars! Wtf do you want more❤️❤️❤️❤️
I had the Z51 A8 and now have the z06 A8. Both are great cars. Honestly, the. Z51 sounded "better," but z06 is louder. Both sound good though. Mostly got 4.5 0 to 60 with z51, mostly get 3.5 with z06. Both of those times spinning a little at launch.
Great video
i love this video..congratulation
great video...way to do it
Id love to see a review on a c6 ZR1 in the future...a lot more raw then the c7 z06
That's a proper Corvette review...
Nice!!!
Thanks! :D Was a great day. We did a C8 review about a year ago if you'd like to check that out.
@@RoadsUntraveled thank you..
I'll do that
SMASHED THAT LIKE BUTTON!
I have a C7 Z51 automatic, i love it. Once you get the timing right on the shifts in manual mode its a blast to drive. Plus the benefit of tossing it in touring mode and not having to run the gears heading to the store or sitting in traffic. C7 is a fantastic car, I'm typing this just as the 2021 mid engines are coming out and ill take the C7 over the C8 any day. If i could go back in time to when this video was made id love to let them know the C8 only comes in automatic :-)
Autos are for chics...
I agree....manual is the way to go!
Yes. Sometimes the slower car can be more enjoyable. I use to own a 2018 ZL1 and a 2013 Boss 302. Looking back at those two cars the Boss 302 was more enjoyable to drive than the ZL1 IMO. It felt more raw although the ZL1 was faster and handled better. I had to be more alert with the Boss 302 because it was more snappy.
I love my 2013 c6 gs to each his own
Corvette owners daily drove 3rd and 4th generation Corvettes going back to the 70's and 80's all the time. I know a Corvette owner that daily drove his 6th generation, even in the winter snow.
Haven't watched the video yet and I'm going to say it's no contest between the two.
I own a C7 Z06 manual and a C8 HTC Z51 automatic and I’m a total manual guy but the C8 automatic is awesome no hesitation like the C7 automatic. I was hoping the C8 Z06 was going to have a manual option but doesn’t sound like it. I won’t ever sell my C7 Z06 manual.
I agree with the transmission critique. Same complaints from me.
A vette is A vette I have a C5 Z06 and I think it’s a true classic an American muscle. Today vettes are more like Europen made auto.