Absolutely love my svartpilen. Been riding for 20 years and bikes of various engine capacities... but this one is hands down, the one that has made me smile the most. As an aside, I'm only 5'4" and have no problems with the seat height. 👌
@@coldnoodles2951 I'm 5'9 1/2 (177cm) and had a Vitpilen. I had a problem with the seat height. I am going to buy a Svartpilen and get the lowering kit. I think the problem will be a little reduced on a Svartpilen with the more upright riding position but definitely sit on and ride one first, don't by blind!
I saw your reviews years back. I got the svart and im still loving it to this day. its my commuter, weekend getaway vehicle. you definitely get a lot of value from this bike if you are a beginner or just looking for an adventures svart is definitely a good motorcycle to do it.
@@xfadl I actually have the 2019 model which dont came with a quick shifter . 2020 onwards came with it standard. wish my bike could have that feature.
I just bought one last week in Sydney, I love it! I had bigger bikes but this so much more fun , the big mono it makes you smile every time you ride, and it looks just stunning.
Great video Kris. I just picked up a new 2023 Svartpilen about a month ago. I love this thing! My only complaints are the mirrors (which were easy to replace) and the dashboard. I'm 64 and my old eyes struggle to see display when I'm riding. I don't care though. I have such a blast on this thing that I'm better off not taking my eyes off the road anyway. Stay safe and keep up the videos!
Wicked! Yea the dash is the one area that still niggles at me, although I did replace the mirrors. They are a great machine. It'd be cool to run an analogue dash I think, but I'm not sure I want to bother with replacing it.
I’ve done some things to my 2021 Svartpilen that you can check out. I definitely agree to all that you said, particularly about the dash that could use an upgrade. Nice vid bro, ride safe from us, husky riders, here in the Philippines 🇵🇭
Very good inner urban,gravel road explore. I currently have a CB500F with a 56 litre Givi top box which I have found indispensable. It hasn’t been off the bike since I bought it. I’d be interested in seeing the cafe racer version of the 400 & 700 if you can manage it. I think increasingly people are going to look at single cylinder commuter bikes to get through heavy traffic congestion situations and rising fuel prices. Parking isn’t an issue with most motorcycles. Enfield have also come out with the newly designed engine in the Hunter 350. Low maintenance, insurance, rego, excellent fuel economy- that bike will be a big success.
Adding luggage makes life so much easier, especially for commuting. I'm trying to figure out if there's options for these, although I'd probably like something similar to a Ventura rack as it's low profile. They definitely make a lot more sense with rising living costs, and the advantages of low fuel costs, low on roads and of course parking. The Royal Enfields are a little pricey for what you're getting with the 350s, although I think people are willing to pay more for the retro style machines so that seems to level the playing field. Certainly for a run-around they are great options, and the simplicity is no doubt a benefit for reliability.
@@MotoJournoKris Definitely a fashion accessory item on their own- multi gender personalisable bike with a posh brand luggage set or ruggedised off road set. Very unique and classy bike.
How could you go wrong?? These are hands down the best value in their segment. Adjustable suspension and spoke wheels alone put this in a league above all its competitors. Plus with the added advantage of being able to comfortably explore some open fire trails!! If I had some extra $$$ I’d have one too.Great choice !
cant forget the quick shifter that goes up AND down, ABS and the perelli scorpion tires coming standard with the bike.. all for $5000 USD. Nothing comes close
As a designer (Engineering Architecture) I always loved motorcycles, some look complete and most look like something is missing, like this one. Have fun and be safe 😊🇦🇺
@@MotoJournoKris try "svartpilen body frame cover plate". I hadn't been able to find them myself but saved the listing I saw in one of the pilen groups. A German company called Wunderkind also make a black frame for the speedo dial that makes it look less like a Tupperware container. Over priced for what it is but I don't regret buying it 😜
@@wasaluki2292 Oh nice, I see them. Yea I'm not sure about the frame inserts looking at them. A speedo dial would be ideal though! I'll definitely look into that too.
I did, and I was seriously considering a 150 or 200 cc of some type to look into the viability of the much smaller machines, but I just couldn't pass the 401 when I saw it again, especially at the prices these were going for!
@@MotoJournoKris I own a 2021 401 as well, and have put about 1700 miles on mine since december last year. 99% of that has been on pavement and as much as it pains me, ive given some thought to switching to 100% street oriented tires. If you had any thoughts on that. Would also be interested in hearing about your experiences with this gearbox when using the quick shift vs traditional shift methods. Tinker vids would be cool too.
@@fb4509 Honestly, if you're doing almost pure tarmac if just makes sense to fit a set of good road tyres, and I think you'll have more fun. The stock tyres are a good dual purpose tyre, but a set of sticky sportier tyres will likely take the bike to the next level. So far the quick shift seems quite clunky, especially having ridden my sister's 390 Adventure on which the quickshift is much smoother in both directions. So far traditional shifts definitely seems smoother, but I'm not sure if there's a knack to how the 401's quick shifter works.
I have 6K miles on my 2020 and it’s been super fun in various environments. It thrives in the tight twisties of the mountains here in Boone, N.C. While not a true Super Moto, I routinely do 120 mile jaunts on it without any discomfort (5’7” is an ideal fit for this rig). As long as you stay off any gnarly, unpaved roads it’s an absolute hoot. Bang for buck, haven’t seen anything new that can approach it. If not for some leaky Apex forks (2x now) and minimal tire selections, I’d recommend it for anyone who wants an easy but capable machine for doing urban buzzing about, or flat out ripping thru your regional (or local) mountains, if you’re privileged enough to have access! For about $3K less than a DRZ400 SM, it’s an enticing choice.
Exactly, the SM is an awesome machine, but it was so much more than the Svartpilen when I bought it, if you could even find one. The 401 is plenty of fun through good roads, even for those who never really take advantage of the dual purpose tyres.
I just ordered a 2023 but I'm going to mod the tiny fuel tank and add 2 more gallons. If you cut the futuristic looking side panels and expose the tank area on the side right above the frame, you can cut a giant hole in the side of the tank and epoxy in an expansion. I'll have to play with the shape so it doesn't look too freaky but i think i can add a gallon expansion on each side. The easiest way to do it is buy an after market tank like from Acerbis and cut sections off them for the actual expansions.
Nice! I've actually wondered about chucking a 5L fuel canister on the back for longer rides, just for that reason. Shame there isn't an auxiliary tank designed for the tank rack.
So. I just bought one from 21 as my first bike as of today at a fantastic price, and only minor visual damage from the previous owners off-road fun. I’m worried now that I’ve started too strong and not much is ever going to be better value for money for me. Lol It’s been a blast for the 50 or so miles I put in so far. I can’t wait to take it down a fire trail next weekend!
Thanks for the interesting video! What do you make of the exhaust note? Will you be doing a comparison with your Ninja 400? :) I'm really enjoying your focus on the smaller bikes - makes a lot of sense.
Definitely a bit quiet for me on the exhaust side of things, but I'll probably see what I can fit to give it a little more note. I'll definitely be doing a comparison once I have time.
Fab Video Kris. I bought the Svartpilen back in April, based on your previous review. I’m absolutely chuffed with it. I’ve had a few bikes, but this is go-to bike, for commuting and around town. It has incredible performance for a small single and for a LAMs (A2) bike, it’s so much fun. I actually prefer riding the 401 to the Honda CB650R. People always comment on the design, something I haven’t had with previous bikes. So thanks again, and best wishes, from Wales 🏴 👍🏻
Another good video Kris, well done. I echo everything you said about the 401, I have been riding it for nearly a year now. Such a good beginner bike. I am so glad I started my motorcycle journey on a 401. Will continue to enjoy the bike, it still have a lot to offer.
They really are. I feel like they sit just at that sweet spot where there's enough performance to keep things interested for a number of years at least, as well as being something to really grow into. They are also amazing compared to most of the beginner options back when I started riding, both in value and in the ride they offer!
Thank you for this video. Very interesting for me. This evening I've visited a dealer to see this model. I wasn't considering to buy it, but after the visit of this evening and your video, I thing it's a good choice. I've found some accessories at the web of Husqvarna. Perhaps you're looking for other things.
Hi Kris. I've got the exact same bike and absolutely love it. My only issue is the mirrors. Very hard to see in the space behind the rider. I'm curious to know if you are planning to upgrade to new mirrors? I'm looking to find other mirrors but the bar end mirrors don't appeal to me. I hope you enjoy the bike as much as I do.
The vision directly behind you as a rider is definitely quite limited although to either side is decent, makes checking for a certain type of hazard behind you quite difficult. I'm planning on replacing them for sure. I thought maybe comparing some more traditional replacements as well as bar end mirrors. I'm not generally that much of a fan of bar ends either, but thought the comparison would be interesting.
I really like the look of this bike, though never seen one up close. I am a bit concerned that I would look ridiculous on it. I am 6'2''. It doesn't seem to be tiny underneath you though. How tall are you? Thanks
I watched your ergo video of this bike last year. That, among few, made me decide to get one myself. Look into Powertronic Fuelx especially if you plan on doing aftermarket filter & decat. Enjoy the bike & keep it up with the channel!
@@MotoJournoKris I have that setup, DNA filter + decat, but stock muffler. The bike's kinda lean on stock, for emission compliance. What more with an aftermarket air filter and decat. Lean symptoms from excess heat, jerky throttle, abrupt power surge(not linear), & cold starts, all gone after putting Powertronic Fuelx.
@@psychosliver That's always the trade-off with doing extra mods. I think a slip-on you can often get away with stock fueling. But add a performance filter or more mods and you start needing a tune.
You thinking to replace the 390, or just as another bike in the shed for some variety? Each bike has some advantages, the 401 is a bit sportier, unusual style, engine tune is a little more aggressive, the 390 ADV is definitely better off-road, more accessories available, more relaxed seating position. The reason I went the Svartpilen 401 was because I could get one for almost $4k less than a 390 ADV at the time here in Australia, including about $1k in run-out discounts for the previous year model.
I was tempted between the Duke and the 401 when I was looking. The older Duke didn't have the adjustable forks (it does now) and I think it may have already had the TFT which was better to my eye than the 401 dash. I just liked the styling of the 401 and there was a good deal going. For my use, I think I'd have been just as happy on the Duke, I just wouldn't have occasionally wondered down the odd dirt trail as much.
You buying a Svart is quite an endorsement. I just got a new 2022 Vitpilen. Unlike most, I specifically wanted a Vit. I love the clip on bars and rear set pegs. What a refined motorcycle it is, so much better than my 2019 CB300R for only $450 more.
I was very (VERY) tempted by the Vitpilen, but wanted to see whether the Svart would could replace a dual-sport - if you're not going mad on the trails. They are incredible value though, it's crazy how much bike you get for the price.
@@MotoJournoKris No dirt to ride in my Los Angeles suburb but 10 minutes away from the tight, twisty mountain roads of Malibu. Yes, incredible value. I think the Japanese are falling behind. I paid $700 over list but got that or more extra for the used Honda because of the sellers market. There are absolutely no Svarts available and if there were they'd be marked up even more than the Vit.
@@patriciabourne9046 Definitely a sellers market, and with so many supply issues it's probably helping contain competition pressures, which may have otherwise seen the big four get more aggressive with their updates (or pricing).
@@MotoJournoKris Yes, they sell every bike they make whether they're competitive or not. If the supply ever returns to normal the Japanese will have some catching up to do. I saw the the new Hornet, 500 Scrambler, and Transalp in videos from EICMA. All fugly if you ask me. Husqvarna is light years ahead in style. I liked the new Suzuki parallel twins though, not so much for their looks but because I believe Suzuki makes great bikes.
@@patriciabourne9046 I do like the look of that new GSX-8S, seems like competition for the Hornet, and I reckon the styling is a bit more inspired compared to the Honda. Guess pricing will be interesting between those two. Countries, especially the EU trying to force EVs may also be taking some of the wind out of new bike development.
Hi Kris. Can you advise where I can get a brand new one (21 model is fine) for the same price you bought as used ones in Melbourne are selling at almost the same price.
MotoHUB here in Sydney still had some run-out '21 models last time I was there, I think they were listed for $7.2k now. I'm not too sure about down in Melbourne though I'm afraid...
They're a really cool bike honestly, I'm interested to see how ownership compares to the Ninja 400. On the specification side of things everything is really close with some advantages, like the suspension and brakes.
When you say $7000 ausi dollars, is that plus dealer mark up, destination charge, tax and registration. I’m here in California looking to snag a deal here in the end of 23 or early 24. I think I’m seeing in US dollars, give or take $4200 plus $1000 prep and dest. Then there would be tax and registration which are a given. I guess it’s the msrp, prep cost and destination cost they play around with. The prices are a great deal, so much so that I am thinking about not buying private party. ( I had a bad experience on my last Craigslist motorcycle, had to put money into it) So these deals are attractive on new bikes. I’m going to see if I can do $4500 for bike plus $500 destination, no prep or dealer fee and then taxes and reg of course. Last question the 401 or the ktm 390 duke, both in 2023 model. Which would you prefer, I also had a 2015 triumph daytona 675r so I’m interested in your opinion thanks
That was the out the door price I paid, with most of our pricing in Australia the full ride-away price quoted (including all the additional factors you mentioned). Normally they are $8K, so that was $1000 off, which I thought was amazing for a new bike, especially with these specs. I have the same thoughts about buying private, it's a risk, and I have not had great luck in the past, so getting a great deal on a new bike is really ideal for me. As for Duke vs 401, I haven't really done enough off-roading to genuinely need the 401 and I could have ridden the Duke along the same tracks a little less comfortably, so I think it's a matter of either/or really. Styling probably being the biggest factor and I do like the Svartpilen there. From memory the Duke only gets the adjustable forks on the newer versions though, so there is that. The dash on the Duke would be a winner though. The 401 is so much harder to keep clean than the Daytona, but honestly for the price, it's a great machine and I haven't been disappointed. I do miss the triple though.
I've been trying to find builds that accommodate saddle bag position storage for this bike while also allowing for a switch to having a rider on the back if needed. Not much out there.
Yea it's really limited, a lot of solutions seem to be on forums with some modification required, which I don't mind. But you'd think there would be more options!
Excellent video! I have a 701 Svartpilen and it is an excellent motorcycle. There is nothing like it. To me, the 401 or 701 is good out the box including the stock exhaust. It is one of the few bikes to me that have a good looking and sounding stock exhaust. The single cylinder might contribute to that exhaust note. The only thing I changed on my bike for looks and practice reasons is I purchased bar end mirrors from Husqvarna and it helped with my ability to see besides me and the bike looks better.
@@jon-michaeldennis2689 The bike is amazing! The design and concept is cutting edge and it looks even better in person. There is no other bike out there right now. Nothing close.
Hi Kris. 181cm and 86kg here. Deciding between the 401, Ninja 400 and Bmw G310 Gs. How does the ninja handle a bumpy road? I'm sure the GS will be the most comfortable small displacement bike but worried about quality/reliability of the BMW and the 401
The Ninja 400 is pretty good honestly, I'm about 75 kg but it's good for general comfort, without totally trading off all the sportiness factor. I'd say it's a nice all-round system, as being that bit softer it tends to swallow up the bigger bumps. The ergos being more aggressive than the GS will work against it of course.
I tend to think this is quite a compact bike, but also fairly tall, I think you'd be ok as long as you're not feeling cramped at the knee under the tank.
I was planning to buy one of these, but now the Honda 500CL has made me rethink the acquisition... What do you think, between the 2? Honda has a bigger tank (12l), lower sit height, and 2 cilinder motor...
Really comes down to what you're prioritising. I'd say the Svartpilen is the sportier machine overall and possibly better value too if that's a big factor. The CL500 obviously gets Honda reliability, less highly strung but nice and torquey engine, and weighs in a bit heavier. The seating position is likely to be quite different between the two as well, I think the CL will be a bit more relaxed and comfortable there, without having sat on one yet.
Nothing noteworthy on the vibes at this stage but it's also not run in, and I haven't done huge mileage. The tank is small but the range is decent if not amazing.
Got my L's, doing lots of research on similar bikes for my first purchase. This would be a clear winner however here's a few points from my POV that are in any video you might have seen. The Speedo is really tiny and LCD so I can imagine trying to keep within the speed limit will be any easy feat while progressing through my two years of P's. There's no point having a more powerful LAMS bike if you can't learn to reign it in and not get booked! Otherwise where I ride I'll never make it to my full licence. The lack of farings and wind protection is also a concern. Wind blasts at higher speeds are very off putting for a new rider you need to be able to tuck out of it to focus on your riding. Plus riding in colder or hotter weather is more uncomfortable when you take windchill and windburn into consideration which reduces the incentive to ride in more varied conditions and increase your skills. Lastly while this bike has been around for a couple of years it doesn't have a solid reputation for servicing and reliability like Japanese bikes like Honda, Yamaha and Kawasaki do. This also to applies to access to parts and qualified mechanics who will know their way around the bile.Especially in the LAMS corner of the bike world. For this reason I'm choosing a Yamaha R3, The speedo is bigger, and more visible, it's got more wind protection and has a top level status in terms of reliability, service and access to parts. Hopefully all the Asian brands will lift their game and start pitching modern models that will compete with the Husky, soon!
That's a fair run down. I started on a nakedbike so I wouldn't say that's as big a concern as people might think, there's a definite advantage having wind protection, but faired bikes, especially light faired bikes can also catch cross winds more. Ideally we could get the best of both worlds with the highest specs and top notch reliability, alongside the very competitive price. I haven't had any major issues, but smaller details have stood out that I'm planning on doing a video on.
Hey mate, nice review. Id be interested in your thoughts after owning it for a while. For a first bike, Im deciding on a 401 or a CB400 super four. Both are similar prices second hand but the Honda's have a lot more k's on em.
I'm working on a longer term review now. I still think the 401 is a really solid choice, the loadout is pretty unbeatable and the bike is exceptionally fun to ride. I haven't had any reliability issues, but the bike does leak a few drops of oil between rides at the sump drain bolt. My only other real complaint is they use fairly cheap bolts in non structural areas from what I can see, and if you're really fussy about finish quality, the tank edges are quite rough, and there's other areas that may stand out to you. I'd guess the CB would have the advantage in the reliability and finish quality, which may be offset by age and mileage, but Honda has a good reputation in this area for a reason. Plus a four-cylinder is great fun, and a very different engine characteristic. The Honda also has a significantly lower seat height which may be a big factor depending on your height and inseam, however it's a bit heavier too. That normally drops away when riding, and the 401 being taller and carrying weight higher may off-set that.
@@MotoJournoKris Thanks mate. I really appreciate the time you've taken to reply. Great intel and advice too. I'm going to have a sit on a Svart today to see how it feels. Then more thought on which way to go! Thanks again!
@@MotoJournoKris just one... should I go with the Svart401 or a CB400 Super Four as a first bike?😂 I'm worried I'll want more out of a bike after restrictions get lifted (but that will probably apply to both). Svart felt good to sit on yesterday, even though I'm only 5'6.
There seems to be some shared issues, as they share the same engine and most components. I haven't had any issues so far. I think the way the engine character can be a bit aggressive, which may be behind some of the fueling complaints, but some people do have other issues too from what I've read.
@@MotoJournoKris cheers for that. Was planning to get one later this year so looking forward. You should see if you get the random engine shut off issues that other owners have been experiencing
@@MotoJournoKris Cheers for that! Heard it's a combination of fuelling, kickstand and ABS electronics issue. But looking foward to your experience and insight into it! Make it a full series! I need to know what luggage options would work best
Great review, and looking forward to something in depth and how it handles on longer journeys. I can considering coming off my Rebel 500 and moving to this as i am not feeling the cramped riding position. Am I mad?? Cheers
Compared to the Rebel this will feel significantly more zippy on the performance side of things, as well as having a totally different ergo. I think it's easy to be left feeling like you always have to go for more performance, where I'd say if you know what falls into the 'enough' category for you, that kind of move could be something that works. But definitely see if you can sit on one and check out the difference in the riding position.
Yea, at the end of the day it's really a road bike with dual-sport tyres, however for basic off-roading that should be enough for some riders. I think for those who want better off-road cred, it's worth looking at something more specific for it. The 390 ADV takes things up a notch in that regard, with a 19 inch front and various other more off-road specific features.
@@MotoJournoKris I looked at that 390 adventure. It weighs as much as my Suzuki DR650. I was shopping for an updated version of my Yamaha XT225 which weighs about 250 lb. I may wait for Honda to ship their new CRF300LS. It has a 32" seat height. More CC than the Yamaha XT250.
@@DannyB-cs9vx Yea I think the 390 ADV was designed for commuters/touring with a small nod to light ADV more than anything. The CRF300L/Rally seems a better proposition if you want lighter and better off-road. Sad there's not more competition for it really, you'd think if anyone was going to introduce something similar, it'd be KTM! But I guess they have their more hardcore offroaders.
Got my name down on a MY21 Vitpilen 401 that was £1,300 off of the new price, and I can't wait to take delivery. This is said from someone who just sold his Aprilia RS 660, which I will miss dearly!
I've been doing a bit of research but haven't seen anything that really stands out. Procraft do one that looks like it'd work, but I'm not that familiar with them. Panniers also seem a popular luggage option.
Excellent choice of bike, Kris. I can understand why you bought this bargain. Great 373cc engine. I like the styling. The 401 looks better than the 701 in terms of the Svartpilen styling. I like the dash. A lot more than the one on my 390 Duke. The tank rack is useful. The tyres are tubeless, too. What a bike!
@@MotoJournoKris Carrying any luggage is the main problem. My 390 was bought secondhand and came with a reverse rack from India which perches just about the rear seat. I got a Givi 26-litre top case, which viewed from the back, suits the bike. It takes my Roof Boxer V8 helmet if I place it side-on.
@@1990-t1j Interesting, I wonder if the same rack is available for the 401. I saw a few 390 options but nothing 401 specific when I had a quick look. Being able to lock up your helmet with the bike is such an advantage. I had a big 60L topbox on my FZ6N and that'd take two helmets, or one and plenty of gear. It was great, although that size would be too big on these smaller bikes.
@@MotoJournoKris The 390 is made in India and an aftermarket accessory industry grew up around it there. I doubt you can get anything for the 401. The rack is a Zana, but I'm not sure if they are for sale anymore. Zana racks are still available but I can't find the reverse rack. It is such a neat idea. It can sit above the rear seat or further back.
@@1990-t1j Yep it's ingenious. You can do that with the Ventura racks and run them off the back of the bike or over the seat when you don't have a pillion.
Hi Kris, do you recommend this Svartpilen 401 as a first bike for beginner? I am looking for a commute bike for everyday riding from Macquarie Park to Chatswood. I'm 180cm and about 85kg. Moreover, is husqvarna as reliable as Honda regarding the quality. As a beginner I don't want to be bothered by tiny issues.
Hi mate, you won't go wrong with this bike, it's the best beginner bike on the market. I have start with this bike and same size as you. It has been a year of commuting for work on daily basis, love every minute on the bike.
As William said, it's an ideal beginner option. The seat height is a little taller than some, but it's a great overall package. Honda have a great reputation for reliability that I'm not sure Husqvarna can match, but I'd have said build quality is similar on the surface. You do pay a premium for Honda though.
Hey all, for owners of the svart. how have you found the reliability? ie over the course of 1-2 yrs? ie with repair issues or oil leaks etc? i'm thinking of getting one of these, as a new/beginner rider. and ideally wanting smt reliable, economical fuel consumption and easy to ride in an upright position and easy to turn and manevour. I've looked into quite a bit of this bike on various platforms, and have generally found it to fit the bill to what i'm after.
Apart from the very minor oil leak I haven't had any issues yet. There are some known issues, but they don't seem hugely widespread from what I've seen.
I haven't had any issues like that yet to be honest. From what I've read that's a problem some owners have faced, but not universal, and the solutions have also varied from keeping the revs up, better fuel, all the way to more extensive warranty work, or a piggyback fuel module.
Hi Kris, keen for a more in depth review as I’m tossing up between this, the cbr500 r and the interceptor 650 as a second bike (started on a tu250x). Value proposition is outrageous with these. Only things I’m worried about are the stalling/cutting out issues many owners seem to report, and also the stability on freeways in terms of getting knocked about by the wind (90% of my riding will be inner city, but occasional weekend trips on the freeway for a couple of hours are on the cards). Greatly appreciate your feedback mate. Congrats on the purchase
An in depth review is definitely on the way, and I'll probably try and take it up the coast, so that'll reveal how it handles the highway for extended periods. I'll definitely keep an eye out for the stalling. Do you know if that's stock, or something that crops up with mods like exhausts/airfilters? The BMW 310s were particularly bad for stalling if the revs weren't kept quite high, but I haven't seen it on the 390s/401s. Will be interesting to see if it's more of an issue in the dirt though.
@@MotoJournoKris yeah the cutting out (from what I’ve read) seems to happen when shifting down at lights etc. looks to be relatively common from posts online etc. interesting to see how you get in with yours!
@@jaydiggy86 I have heard ethanol fuel can cause that issue, but I think premium fuel is the recommendation. I never put E10 in bikes here, and normally stick to 95 or 98. I'll be interested to see if it crops up though.
hey, im not even a new rider yet, but Im thinking a lot about getting a svartpillen as my first bike. As i live in Europe, this bike would have the maximum power that i can get for 2 years. The only thing im not sure about this bike is that his value maybe goes down faster than other most used bikes like mt-07.
I think that would tend to be the case honestly. The 390s and 401s do seem to depreciate a bit faster than the Japanese alternatives. Obviously with the MT-07 you're paying a lot more in the first place, so that's worth considering too, where it's a more similar starting point with an R3 or Ninja 400 or similar.
I’m late to the party! Great video as always! A couple questions if ya had a second: What’s your take on it’s reliability and maintenance? A neighbor of mine had so many random issues that seem to be quality control related, which scared me away from the bike. I’m based in a large city, so I’m lucky to have someone to work on a bike, but that valve adjustment every 4,650 miles seems brutal, and somewhat expensive. Curious to hear your thoughts on both those issues.
So far I've got a very slow oil leak in the garage after a ride if I go for a real fang, that looks like it may just be at the sump drain bolt, but I'll get it looked at next service. Valve clearance is every 9300 miles from what I can tell, and that's a check which isn't super uncommon as far as mileage. I know some bikes quote much longer figures these days, but in a lot of cases it seems like the shorter check figures are more to avoid liability, with so many people reporting across so many machines they go much longer before needing adjustment. I'm going to have a more in depth look at the oil leak though and report back, just to see if it's something I can fix, as I feel like getting familiar with the bike is always a good thing.
Thanks for getting back! Happy to hear your issues seem relatively minor. Weird, I saw a only PDF shop manual say 4,650. Just saw my buddy’s 701 in bronze yesterday and it’s an absolute stunner as well. Too bad it’s discontinued. Wondering what they’ll do with 900 engine platform in the future!
@@muradbyunus Yep they look amazing, and the run out deals on them were crazy as well. It'll be really interesting to see honestly, I thought the 900 in the Norden was on point. The manuals can change between year models, so it could be something like that. They also occasionally vary between markets.
Pretty sure all of these are made/assembled in India. Only the earliest models were made in Europe before manufacturing was shifted to the Bajaj factory, which may explain the early pricing and sudden drop later on.
Cheers! That's made by Merlin, they are a British brand from memory, been my go-to in the cooler weather recently and it's waterproof. The Merlin Sandon Waxed Cotton Jacket.
I was focused on the jacket and forgot about the bike 😂, yeah I'm planning on getting the bike also, any more videos with you and the bike? If so I'll give you a follow 👍🏽
They had the new model when I picked mine up, but the discount on the MY21 was a lot more attractive. If there was significant changes or improvements it may have been a different story.
I'd say the Z400 is going to be slightly more beginner friendly, especially for shorter riders, due to the lower seat height. The Svartpilen has a taller seat and the handling is more aggressive in comparison. There's a bit of subjectivity on what you prefer there. If you can get both feet down flat on both bikes, even the seat height is likely to not be a major consideration.
Thanks mate. I’m 6ft and have quite long legs. However I really liked the leg position in the K400, and how easy it is to flick around. I need a commuter but also a bike to take away on the odd weekend. But love the look of the svartpilen. Thanks for the reviews!
So far so good for shorter rides, but I need to do some longer rides to see how it goes there, as that tends to be the real benchmark, at maybe 4-6 hours.
does Husqvarna ship bikes overseas? having a hard time finding local dealerships with any of these in stock and I'm tryna get one, maybe even brand new
They should be available in the US, but there is still supply issues and in some cases the smaller capacity machines seem to get a bit less love in your market.
@@MotoJournoKris The seat has been paid for and is on back order since June. Aftermarket parts might be better if available it’s a bit of a specialty bike
@@neilfoster9517 That's true, I've normally found a much wider variety of accessories for most bikes I've owned, but the 401 is a bit more limited on what's available.
@@MotoJournoKris I live in a small city 75K. I have the only Svart. I have talked to a student who owns the Vit. Dealer is 1 hr. Drive not a common bike I’ve had a few people ask if it’s electric when parked.
7000 AUS OTR is around 4700 US. I just paid 7600 US OTR for a 2022 Vitpilen 401. Amazing that there were leftover Svarts in Australia. There are absolutely none available in the US. BTW I didn't get a Vit because I couldn't get a Svart. I got a Vit because I wanted a Vit. There are people changing out the top triple clamp of the Vit with one that has risers for a riser bar. It may be that they wanted a Svart but there were none to be had.
I'd heard people can't get them in the US, but didn't realise the supply was that limited. Normal OTR RRP is about $1000 AUD on top of that, which makes it a little closer. Is that the normal price or has it been pushed up quite a bit? I've heard from Americans in the YN discord that when demand is tight some bikes sell way above normal pricing, which I've never seen here in Australia. They seem to be quite a few through and sold at my local dealer. I was tempted by the Vitpilen, but thought I'd go the more relaxed bike with the dual purpose tyres. The cafe racer theme is really cool.
@@MotoJournoKris I paid $700 over the list price of $5399 US, so $6199. But, I got that much or more extra when I sold my 2019 CB300R because of the sellers market here. Markups on bikes and cars is a custom in the US when the supply is tight. I'm amazed it's not that way in Australia. There's no dirt to ride in the vicinity of Malibu but there is an abundance of tight, twisty canyon roads.
@@georgekrpan3181 I have a feeling they aren't allowed to go over the recommended ride-away price here, although that varies by state as the on-road costs do differ a little.
Hello, guys. I live in Russia and price for this bike here is ridiculous - i'ts 9k dollars. Can anyone suggest some way to buy it from us or another country where it's cheaper?
I’m 5’6, 197 pounds, female. Would I be able to fit this bike? Flat foot or at least ball of feet on ground? The vit too much of a crotch rocket look/feel rider stance wise. I’m leaning towards the svart
Do you know your inseam length? That's normally the best comparison point for reaching the ground. Have you tried any other bikes for a point of comparison.
@@MotoJournoKris idk my inseam length or even how to measure that. I’ve sat on many other bikes so far. Here’s what I have sat on so far and how far my feet touch the ground: Zero SR/F - tippy toe the ground Benelli tnt135 - tip toe to slight ball of foot Grom - flat foot 883 sportster - flat foot Bintelli beast - flat foot Honda rebel 250 - flat foot Honda rebel 1100 DCT - flat foot Honda navi - balls of feet touch ground I am still in the process of sitting on more
@@lostintheclouds8719 Definitely worth checking out as many as you can. The SR/F and Benelli are around the 780-790 mm seat height from what I can see, where the Svartpilen is an extra 45 mm or so on top of that, which is pretty significant. There can be some variance with the width of the bike, to just how manageable the seat height is, but I think you'd probably only be tip-toe if you're shifted right across the seat to one side, to get that foot down. I think there's a lowering kit which may lower the bike by 25 mm or so, but that'll remain quite a bit taller than the tallest of the bikes you've mentioned.
@@MotoJournoKris ty for your reply. It’s too bad I can’t find the Svartpilen 125 anywhere b/c I think that would be the one lol. The lowering kit I read I think said 1/4-1/2 inch it could lower… ugh… why do they make these things so high - it’s so frustrating
@@lostintheclouds8719 With all the bikes sharing the same chassis, it's a bit of a shared issue being so tall. Most of the options from other companies tend to keep it quite a bit lower, like below 800 mm, as low as 785 or so, unless you go to a cruiser, where they'll go lower still.
Here a seemingly ridicules question.... Has any one rode 2 up? Is it capable of this even a little bit? Asking because I might have a girlfriend someday.
Are you kidding me!? That's the single most important question my friend! First thing I consider is whether I can take a hot chick on the back with me! I had a BMW g650 with a case on the back and that was a nice backrest for my ladies. I always try to think of their comfort and safety! That might be the only thing keeping me from a 401 or the 701 svart
As I read this, and thank you for all the great breakdown, I'm looking at the Honda cb500x and it looks like there are some nice options for top case and side cases. The top case being a nice backrest for a guest.
Absolutely love my svartpilen. Been riding for 20 years and bikes of various engine capacities... but this one is hands down, the one that has made me smile the most.
As an aside, I'm only 5'4" and have no problems with the seat height. 👌
Try KlX300SM
They really do offer insane smiles for the price!
I'm 5'3"-4" too am considering this bike.
Just to be sure around 164 cm right?
@@coldnoodles2951 I'm 5'9 1/2 (177cm) and had a Vitpilen. I had a problem with the seat height. I am going to buy a Svartpilen and get the lowering kit. I think the problem will be a little reduced on a Svartpilen with the more upright riding position but definitely sit on and ride one first, don't by blind!
@@thomaspettit1416 thanks for the heads up, seems I'll have some issues.
Will def try it out properly first.
I saw your reviews years back. I got the svart and im still loving it to this day. its my commuter, weekend getaway vehicle. you definitely get a lot of value from this bike if you are a beginner or just looking for an adventures svart is definitely a good motorcycle to do it.
hows the quickshifter? i heard you dont need use the clutch with quickshifter
@@xfadl I actually have the 2019 model which dont came with a quick shifter . 2020 onwards came with it standard. wish my bike could have that feature.
I just bought one last week in Sydney, I love it! I had bigger bikes but this so much more fun , the big mono it makes you smile every time you ride, and it looks just stunning.
There's something really cool about just being able to flog these little bikes!
So many choices
Great bike friend
Scramblers are it!
Great video Kris. I just picked up a new 2023 Svartpilen about a month ago. I love this thing! My only complaints are the mirrors (which were easy to replace) and the dashboard. I'm 64 and my old eyes struggle to see display when I'm riding. I don't care though. I have such a blast on this thing that I'm better off not taking my eyes off the road anyway. Stay safe and keep up the videos!
Wicked! Yea the dash is the one area that still niggles at me, although I did replace the mirrors. They are a great machine. It'd be cool to run an analogue dash I think, but I'm not sure I want to bother with replacing it.
I’ve done some things to my 2021 Svartpilen that you can check out.
I definitely agree to all that you said, particularly about the dash that could use an upgrade.
Nice vid bro, ride safe from us, husky riders, here in the Philippines 🇵🇭
Very good inner urban,gravel road explore. I currently have a CB500F with a 56 litre Givi top box which I have found indispensable. It hasn’t been off the bike since I bought it. I’d be interested in seeing the cafe racer version of the 400 & 700 if you can manage it. I think increasingly people are going to look at single cylinder commuter bikes to get through heavy traffic congestion situations and rising fuel prices. Parking isn’t an issue with most motorcycles. Enfield have also come out with the newly designed engine in the Hunter 350. Low maintenance, insurance, rego, excellent fuel economy- that bike will be a big success.
Adding luggage makes life so much easier, especially for commuting. I'm trying to figure out if there's options for these, although I'd probably like something similar to a Ventura rack as it's low profile.
They definitely make a lot more sense with rising living costs, and the advantages of low fuel costs, low on roads and of course parking.
The Royal Enfields are a little pricey for what you're getting with the 350s, although I think people are willing to pay more for the retro style machines so that seems to level the playing field. Certainly for a run-around they are great options, and the simplicity is no doubt a benefit for reliability.
@@MotoJournoKris Definitely a fashion accessory item on their own- multi gender personalisable bike with a posh brand luggage set or ruggedised off road set. Very unique and classy bike.
Dude, that jacket is so dope. Goes with the Svartpilen perfectly.
My first Merlin jacket and I've been super impressed, warm, waterproof, nice styling, especially for this bike. Definitely a winner.
How could you go wrong?? These are hands down the best value in their segment. Adjustable suspension and spoke wheels alone put this in a league above all its competitors. Plus with the added advantage of being able to comfortably explore some open fire trails!!
If I had some extra $$$ I’d have one too.Great choice !
Exactly the suspension and wheels are a pretty unreal inclusion on a bike at this price.
cant forget the quick shifter that goes up AND down, ABS and the perelli scorpion tires coming standard with the bike.. all for $5000 USD. Nothing comes close
@@targethackett Insane really when you look at all the inclusions and a lot of the premium features that just are not the norm on the little 300-400s.
@@targethackett bbl
why are spokes mentioned? Are they better than a classic 5 spoke wheel?
As a designer (Engineering Architecture) I always loved motorcycles, some look complete and most look like something is missing, like this one. Have fun and be safe 😊🇦🇺
I did wonder if adding some infill panels into the frame would complete the look a bit more, but not sure anyone makes them.
@@MotoJournoKris eBay has a few sellers with infill panels. I'm debating whether I like the look more with them on or off though.
@@wasaluki2292 Interesting! What search terms are you using to find them? I can't seem to spot them...
@@MotoJournoKris try "svartpilen body frame cover plate". I hadn't been able to find them myself but saved the listing I saw in one of the pilen groups.
A German company called Wunderkind also make a black frame for the speedo dial that makes it look less like a Tupperware container. Over priced for what it is but I don't regret buying it 😜
@@wasaluki2292 Oh nice, I see them. Yea I'm not sure about the frame inserts looking at them. A speedo dial would be ideal though! I'll definitely look into that too.
Congratulations Kris! I remember when you reviewed it you really enjoyed it.
I did, and I was seriously considering a 150 or 200 cc of some type to look into the viability of the much smaller machines, but I just couldn't pass the 401 when I saw it again, especially at the prices these were going for!
I have a 401 and it is the best looking bike I have ever gotten. Also, it's fun to ride as it is nimble and fast.
very excited to see more videos on this bike!
If there's anything in particular you'd like me to try and cover, just let me know!
@@MotoJournoKris I own a 2021 401 as well, and have put about 1700 miles on mine since december last year. 99% of that has been on pavement and as much as it pains me, ive given some thought to switching to 100% street oriented tires. If you had any thoughts on that. Would also be interested in hearing about your experiences with this gearbox when using the quick shift vs traditional shift methods. Tinker vids would be cool too.
@@fb4509 Honestly, if you're doing almost pure tarmac if just makes sense to fit a set of good road tyres, and I think you'll have more fun. The stock tyres are a good dual purpose tyre, but a set of sticky sportier tyres will likely take the bike to the next level.
So far the quick shift seems quite clunky, especially having ridden my sister's 390 Adventure on which the quickshift is much smoother in both directions. So far traditional shifts definitely seems smoother, but I'm not sure if there's a knack to how the 401's quick shifter works.
I have 6K miles on my 2020 and it’s been super fun in various environments. It thrives in the tight twisties of the mountains here in Boone, N.C. While not a true Super Moto, I routinely do 120 mile jaunts on it without any discomfort (5’7” is an ideal fit for this rig). As long as you stay off any gnarly, unpaved roads it’s an absolute hoot. Bang for buck, haven’t seen anything new that can approach it. If not for some leaky Apex forks (2x now) and minimal tire selections, I’d recommend it for anyone who wants an easy but capable machine for doing urban buzzing about, or flat out ripping thru your regional (or local) mountains, if you’re privileged enough to have access! For about $3K less than a DRZ400 SM, it’s an enticing choice.
Exactly, the SM is an awesome machine, but it was so much more than the Svartpilen when I bought it, if you could even find one. The 401 is plenty of fun through good roads, even for those who never really take advantage of the dual purpose tyres.
I just ordered a 2023 but I'm going to mod the tiny fuel tank and add 2 more gallons. If you cut the futuristic looking side panels and expose the tank area on the side right above the frame, you can cut a giant hole in the side of the tank and epoxy in an expansion. I'll have to play with the shape so it doesn't look too freaky but i think i can add a gallon expansion on each side. The easiest way to do it is buy an after market tank like from Acerbis and cut sections off them for the actual expansions.
Nice! I've actually wondered about chucking a 5L fuel canister on the back for longer rides, just for that reason. Shame there isn't an auxiliary tank designed for the tank rack.
@@MotoJournoKristh-cam.com/video/_SaZt2NgCNU/w-d-xo.html This might be something for you?
I like the bike. I use the tank rack to tie down items.
I sat on one of these and it felt like a kids toy. It is so much smaller in real life than you think from videos/reviews.
They're a super compact bike, a little taller than some of the competition, but shorter with handling to match.
So. I just bought one from 21 as my first bike as of today at a fantastic price, and only minor visual damage from the previous owners off-road fun.
I’m worried now that I’ve started too strong and not much is ever going to be better value for money for me. Lol
It’s been a blast for the 50 or so miles I put in so far. I can’t wait to take it down a fire trail next weekend!
The value of these bikes is ridiculously good, it definitely makes upgrading to something as well priced and competitive quite challenging.
Honest detailing👌❤
Thanks for the interesting video! What do you make of the exhaust note? Will you be doing a comparison with your Ninja 400? :) I'm really enjoying your focus on the smaller bikes - makes a lot of sense.
Definitely a bit quiet for me on the exhaust side of things, but I'll probably see what I can fit to give it a little more note. I'll definitely be doing a comparison once I have time.
I pulled the muffler off of mine right away.
Fab Video Kris. I bought the Svartpilen back in April, based on your previous review. I’m absolutely chuffed with it. I’ve had a few bikes, but this is go-to bike, for commuting and around town. It has incredible performance for a small single and for a LAMs (A2) bike, it’s so much fun. I actually prefer riding the 401 to the Honda CB650R. People always comment on the design, something I haven’t had with previous bikes.
So thanks again, and best wishes, from Wales 🏴 👍🏻
Awesome, glad you enjoyed the earlier video and are loving the bike! Any mods you've done so far you'd recommend?
Another good video Kris, well done. I echo everything you said about the 401, I have been riding it for nearly a year now. Such a good beginner bike. I am so glad I started my motorcycle journey on a 401. Will continue to enjoy the bike, it still have a lot to offer.
They really are. I feel like they sit just at that sweet spot where there's enough performance to keep things interested for a number of years at least, as well as being something to really grow into. They are also amazing compared to most of the beginner options back when I started riding, both in value and in the ride they offer!
bro which camera did you use to shoot this video ? thanks
Most of my video except onboard is shot with a Canon R5. GoPro for onboard. I was using an M6ii (also Canon) prior to that.
Love these bikes, not many in Perth but would def be keen to try one out
Definitely worth having a go on one if you get the chance!
Thank you for this video. Very interesting for me. This evening I've visited a dealer to see this model. I wasn't considering to buy it, but after the visit of this evening and your video, I thing it's a good choice. I've found some accessories at the web of Husqvarna. Perhaps you're looking for other things.
Husqvarna do have some available, I'm hoping to expand that a bit further. Really need to get around to ordering some stuff to test out on the bike!
Hi Kris. I've got the exact same bike and absolutely love it. My only issue is the mirrors. Very hard to see in the space behind the rider.
I'm curious to know if you are planning to upgrade to new mirrors? I'm looking to find other mirrors but the bar end mirrors don't appeal to me.
I hope you enjoy the bike as much as I do.
The vision directly behind you as a rider is definitely quite limited although to either side is decent, makes checking for a certain type of hazard behind you quite difficult. I'm planning on replacing them for sure. I thought maybe comparing some more traditional replacements as well as bar end mirrors. I'm not generally that much of a fan of bar ends either, but thought the comparison would be interesting.
I know those roads! Heaps good.
Great video man! 👍🏾 great wheels!
Thanks!
I really like the look of this bike, though never seen one up close. I am a bit concerned that I would look ridiculous on it. I am 6'2''. It doesn't seem to be tiny underneath you though. How tall are you? Thanks
I'm 180 cm, it is quite a small bike. Even though the seat is tall, the bike is also compact overall.
I watched your ergo video of this bike last year. That, among few, made me decide to get one myself. Look into Powertronic Fuelx especially if you plan on doing aftermarket filter & decat.
Enjoy the bike & keep it up with the channel!
Awesome! I'll definitely check it out, I was actually wondering about keeping the stock muffler but getting the mid-delete to open it up a little.
@@MotoJournoKris I have that setup, DNA filter + decat, but stock muffler.
The bike's kinda lean on stock, for emission compliance. What more with an aftermarket air filter and decat.
Lean symptoms from excess heat, jerky throttle, abrupt power surge(not linear), & cold starts, all gone after putting Powertronic Fuelx.
@@psychosliver That's always the trade-off with doing extra mods. I think a slip-on you can often get away with stock fueling. But add a performance filter or more mods and you start needing a tune.
thanks for the video, is it worth to buy this bike, if we already have KTM ADV 390? Thanks.
You thinking to replace the 390, or just as another bike in the shed for some variety?
Each bike has some advantages, the 401 is a bit sportier, unusual style, engine tune is a little more aggressive, the 390 ADV is definitely better off-road, more accessories available, more relaxed seating position. The reason I went the Svartpilen 401 was because I could get one for almost $4k less than a 390 ADV at the time here in Australia, including about $1k in run-out discounts for the previous year model.
@@MotoJournoKris Thanks, Kris. I have the 390 ADV now, but I love the design of 401 and wanted to take as an additional bike. Thanks for the inputs.
Hi
I'm hesitating with the KTM DUKE 390, do you have an opinion on it ? Thanks
I was tempted between the Duke and the 401 when I was looking. The older Duke didn't have the adjustable forks (it does now) and I think it may have already had the TFT which was better to my eye than the 401 dash. I just liked the styling of the 401 and there was a good deal going. For my use, I think I'd have been just as happy on the Duke, I just wouldn't have occasionally wondered down the odd dirt trail as much.
You buying a Svart is quite an endorsement. I just got a new 2022 Vitpilen. Unlike most, I specifically wanted a Vit. I love the clip on bars and rear set pegs. What a refined motorcycle it is, so much better than my 2019 CB300R for only $450 more.
I was very (VERY) tempted by the Vitpilen, but wanted to see whether the Svart would could replace a dual-sport - if you're not going mad on the trails. They are incredible value though, it's crazy how much bike you get for the price.
@@MotoJournoKris No dirt to ride in my Los Angeles suburb but 10 minutes away from the tight, twisty mountain roads of Malibu. Yes, incredible value. I think the Japanese are falling behind. I paid $700 over list but got that or more extra for the used Honda because of the sellers market.
There are absolutely no Svarts available and if there were they'd be marked up even more than the Vit.
@@patriciabourne9046 Definitely a sellers market, and with so many supply issues it's probably helping contain competition pressures, which may have otherwise seen the big four get more aggressive with their updates (or pricing).
@@MotoJournoKris Yes, they sell every bike they make whether they're competitive or not. If the supply ever returns to normal the Japanese will have some catching up to do. I saw the the new Hornet, 500 Scrambler, and Transalp in videos from EICMA. All fugly if you ask me. Husqvarna is light years ahead in style. I liked the new Suzuki parallel twins though, not so much for their looks but because I believe Suzuki makes great bikes.
@@patriciabourne9046 I do like the look of that new GSX-8S, seems like competition for the Hornet, and I reckon the styling is a bit more inspired compared to the Honda. Guess pricing will be interesting between those two. Countries, especially the EU trying to force EVs may also be taking some of the wind out of new bike development.
Hi Kris. Can you advise where I can get a brand new one (21 model is fine) for the same price you bought as used ones in Melbourne are selling at almost the same price.
MotoHUB here in Sydney still had some run-out '21 models last time I was there, I think they were listed for $7.2k now. I'm not too sure about down in Melbourne though I'm afraid...
BW makes a nice little plug and play TFT dash. I have a 2020 Vit 701 and I love it!!
That is seriously cool, might be a bit pricey on a 401 though!
I was actually at the shop today considering these. Thank you for the vid.
They're a really cool bike honestly, I'm interested to see how ownership compares to the Ninja 400. On the specification side of things everything is really close with some advantages, like the suspension and brakes.
When you say $7000 ausi dollars, is that plus dealer mark up, destination charge, tax and registration. I’m here in California looking to snag a deal here in the end of 23 or early 24. I think I’m seeing in US dollars, give or take $4200 plus $1000 prep and dest. Then there would be tax and registration which are a given. I guess it’s the msrp, prep cost and destination cost they play around with.
The prices are a great deal, so much so that I am thinking about not buying private party. ( I had a bad experience on my last Craigslist motorcycle, had to put money into it) So these deals are attractive on new bikes. I’m going to see if I can do $4500 for bike plus $500 destination, no prep or dealer fee and then taxes and reg of course. Last question the 401 or the ktm 390 duke, both in 2023 model. Which would you prefer, I also had a 2015 triumph daytona 675r so I’m interested in your opinion thanks
That was the out the door price I paid, with most of our pricing in Australia the full ride-away price quoted (including all the additional factors you mentioned). Normally they are $8K, so that was $1000 off, which I thought was amazing for a new bike, especially with these specs.
I have the same thoughts about buying private, it's a risk, and I have not had great luck in the past, so getting a great deal on a new bike is really ideal for me.
As for Duke vs 401, I haven't really done enough off-roading to genuinely need the 401 and I could have ridden the Duke along the same tracks a little less comfortably, so I think it's a matter of either/or really. Styling probably being the biggest factor and I do like the Svartpilen there. From memory the Duke only gets the adjustable forks on the newer versions though, so there is that. The dash on the Duke would be a winner though.
The 401 is so much harder to keep clean than the Daytona, but honestly for the price, it's a great machine and I haven't been disappointed. I do miss the triple though.
I've been trying to find builds that accommodate saddle bag position storage for this bike while also allowing for a switch to having a rider on the back if needed. Not much out there.
Yea it's really limited, a lot of solutions seem to be on forums with some modification required, which I don't mind. But you'd think there would be more options!
@@MotoJournoKris Exactly! Especially since there is the backseat section installed you'd think they'd make it a tad more practical for accessorizing.
Excellent video! I have a 701 Svartpilen and it is an excellent motorcycle. There is nothing like it. To me, the 401 or 701 is good out the box including the stock exhaust. It is one of the few bikes to me that have a good looking and sounding stock exhaust. The single cylinder might contribute to that exhaust note. The only thing I changed on my bike for looks and practice reasons is I purchased bar end mirrors from Husqvarna and it helped with my ability to see besides me and the bike looks better.
that would be the only change I'd make too :)
@@jon-michaeldennis2689 The bike is amazing! The design and concept is cutting edge and it looks even better in person. There is no other bike out there right now. Nothing close.
Hi Kris. 181cm and 86kg here. Deciding between the 401, Ninja 400 and Bmw G310 Gs. How does the ninja handle a bumpy road? I'm sure the GS will be the most comfortable small displacement bike but worried about quality/reliability of the BMW and the 401
The Ninja 400 is pretty good honestly, I'm about 75 kg but it's good for general comfort, without totally trading off all the sportiness factor. I'd say it's a nice all-round system, as being that bit softer it tends to swallow up the bigger bumps. The ergos being more aggressive than the GS will work against it of course.
How would this bike fit for somebody being 6’4”?
I tend to think this is quite a compact bike, but also fairly tall, I think you'd be ok as long as you're not feeling cramped at the knee under the tank.
Do you know the overall length of the bike tire to tire without license plate? Would be grateful for that info.
I was planning to buy one of these, but now the Honda 500CL has made me rethink the acquisition... What do you think, between the 2? Honda has a bigger tank (12l), lower sit height, and 2 cilinder motor...
Really comes down to what you're prioritising. I'd say the Svartpilen is the sportier machine overall and possibly better value too if that's a big factor. The CL500 obviously gets Honda reliability, less highly strung but nice and torquey engine, and weighs in a bit heavier. The seating position is likely to be quite different between the two as well, I think the CL will be a bit more relaxed and comfortable there, without having sat on one yet.
Looks good. Vibes at 55-65 mph? Gas tank size?
Nothing noteworthy on the vibes at this stage but it's also not run in, and I haven't done huge mileage. The tank is small but the range is decent if not amazing.
@@MotoJournoKris Cool. Thanks.
Got my L's, doing lots of research on similar bikes for my first purchase. This would be a clear winner however here's a few points from my POV that are in any video you might have seen. The Speedo is really tiny and LCD so I can imagine trying to keep within the speed limit will be any easy feat while progressing through my two years of P's. There's no point having a more powerful LAMS bike if you can't learn to reign it in and not get booked! Otherwise where I ride I'll never make it to my full licence.
The lack of farings and wind protection is also a concern. Wind blasts at higher speeds are very off putting for a new rider you need to be able to tuck out of it to focus on your riding. Plus riding in colder or hotter weather is more uncomfortable when you take windchill and windburn into consideration which reduces the incentive to ride in more varied conditions and increase your skills.
Lastly while this bike has been around for a couple of years it doesn't have a solid reputation for servicing and reliability like Japanese bikes like Honda, Yamaha and Kawasaki do. This also to applies to access to parts and qualified mechanics who will know their way around the bile.Especially in the LAMS corner of the bike world. For this reason I'm choosing a Yamaha R3, The speedo is bigger, and more visible, it's got more wind protection and has a top level status in terms of reliability, service and access to parts. Hopefully all the Asian brands will lift their game and start pitching modern models that will compete with the Husky, soon!
That's a fair run down. I started on a nakedbike so I wouldn't say that's as big a concern as people might think, there's a definite advantage having wind protection, but faired bikes, especially light faired bikes can also catch cross winds more.
Ideally we could get the best of both worlds with the highest specs and top notch reliability, alongside the very competitive price. I haven't had any major issues, but smaller details have stood out that I'm planning on doing a video on.
I love the name 401 !
Does have a nice ring to it!
Hey mate, nice review. Id be interested in your thoughts after owning it for a while. For a first bike, Im deciding on a 401 or a CB400 super four. Both are similar prices second hand but the Honda's have a lot more k's on em.
I'm working on a longer term review now. I still think the 401 is a really solid choice, the loadout is pretty unbeatable and the bike is exceptionally fun to ride. I haven't had any reliability issues, but the bike does leak a few drops of oil between rides at the sump drain bolt. My only other real complaint is they use fairly cheap bolts in non structural areas from what I can see, and if you're really fussy about finish quality, the tank edges are quite rough, and there's other areas that may stand out to you.
I'd guess the CB would have the advantage in the reliability and finish quality, which may be offset by age and mileage, but Honda has a good reputation in this area for a reason. Plus a four-cylinder is great fun, and a very different engine characteristic.
The Honda also has a significantly lower seat height which may be a big factor depending on your height and inseam, however it's a bit heavier too. That normally drops away when riding, and the 401 being taller and carrying weight higher may off-set that.
@@MotoJournoKris Thanks mate. I really appreciate the time you've taken to reply. Great intel and advice too. I'm going to have a sit on a Svart today to see how it feels. Then more thought on which way to go! Thanks again!
The 401 does look like more fun!
@@chrisvassos Anytime, just let me know if you have any other questions!
@@MotoJournoKris just one... should I go with the Svart401 or a CB400 Super Four as a first bike?😂 I'm worried I'll want more out of a bike after restrictions get lifted (but that will probably apply to both). Svart felt good to sit on yesterday, even though I'm only 5'6.
Do these run any better than the RC390? Some riders complain of fueling/ECU issues.
There seems to be some shared issues, as they share the same engine and most components. I haven't had any issues so far. I think the way the engine character can be a bit aggressive, which may be behind some of the fueling complaints, but some people do have other issues too from what I've read.
You should do regular reviews detailing long term ownership such as possible issues, how it costs to own, ride and quality etc
As I own this bike I'll definitely be aiming to cover everything like that, if I can.
@@MotoJournoKris cheers for that. Was planning to get one later this year so looking forward. You should see if you get the random engine shut off issues that other owners have been experiencing
@@waiwong7996 Keeping an eye out for that issue, I don't put ethanol fuel in any of my bikes though, which some people think is the cause of that.
@@MotoJournoKris Cheers for that! Heard it's a combination of fuelling, kickstand and ABS electronics issue. But looking foward to your experience and insight into it!
Make it a full series! I need to know what luggage options would work best
Love it, I just got one
Such a fun machine right!
@@MotoJournoKris it is in deed !!!
Great review, and looking forward to something in depth and how it handles on longer journeys. I can considering coming off my Rebel 500 and moving to this as i am not feeling the cramped riding position. Am I mad?? Cheers
Compared to the Rebel this will feel significantly more zippy on the performance side of things, as well as having a totally different ergo. I think it's easy to be left feeling like you always have to go for more performance, where I'd say if you know what falls into the 'enough' category for you, that kind of move could be something that works. But definitely see if you can sit on one and check out the difference in the riding position.
Thanks mate, will be keep a keen eye out for you videos on this bike. I think its where i will end up
I didn't like the 17" rims. Only one company makes off road tires for it, and they are not that aggressive. 17" was primarily used on sport bikes.
Yea, at the end of the day it's really a road bike with dual-sport tyres, however for basic off-roading that should be enough for some riders. I think for those who want better off-road cred, it's worth looking at something more specific for it. The 390 ADV takes things up a notch in that regard, with a 19 inch front and various other more off-road specific features.
@@MotoJournoKris I looked at that 390 adventure. It weighs as much as my Suzuki DR650. I was shopping for an updated version of my Yamaha XT225 which weighs about 250 lb. I may wait for Honda to ship their new CRF300LS. It has a 32" seat height. More CC than the Yamaha XT250.
@@DannyB-cs9vx Yea I think the 390 ADV was designed for commuters/touring with a small nod to light ADV more than anything. The CRF300L/Rally seems a better proposition if you want lighter and better off-road. Sad there's not more competition for it really, you'd think if anyone was going to introduce something similar, it'd be KTM! But I guess they have their more hardcore offroaders.
@@MotoJournoKris
It just seems odd that tire manufacturers do not see a market for aggressive 17" tires in today's bike sizes.
Got my name down on a MY21 Vitpilen 401 that was £1,300 off of the new price, and I can't wait to take delivery. This is said from someone who just sold his Aprilia RS 660, which I will miss dearly!
The RS is a weapon, but the 401 is crazy value, especially the run-out deals.
Great review. I was considering it but I really need a topcase for my bag and camera equipment. Any way to install one on this bike?
I've been doing a bit of research but haven't seen anything that really stands out. Procraft do one that looks like it'd work, but I'm not that familiar with them. Panniers also seem a popular luggage option.
Yes. I modified a rack from a CBF 125 and installed it on the Svartpilen 401. Bike now has a 40L Givi topbox.
@@emptyjampot6634 Nice, did it take much to get it fitted?
@@MotoJournoKris It screws on the same way the hand rail screws on, with the 4 bolts into the top of the frame.
@@emptyjampot6634 Nice, same mounting points and alignment, or did you need to modify it?
Excellent choice of bike, Kris. I can understand why you bought this bargain. Great 373cc engine. I like the styling. The 401 looks better than the 701 in terms of the Svartpilen styling. I like the dash. A lot more than the one on my 390 Duke. The tank rack is useful. The tyres are tubeless, too. What a bike!
I'm stoked with it, the overall package is impressive honestly. Need to plan out some accessories to fit now!
@@MotoJournoKris Carrying any luggage is the main problem. My 390 was bought secondhand and came with a reverse rack from India which perches just about the rear seat. I got a Givi 26-litre top case, which viewed from the back, suits the bike. It takes my Roof Boxer V8 helmet if I place it side-on.
@@1990-t1j Interesting, I wonder if the same rack is available for the 401. I saw a few 390 options but nothing 401 specific when I had a quick look. Being able to lock up your helmet with the bike is such an advantage. I had a big 60L topbox on my FZ6N and that'd take two helmets, or one and plenty of gear. It was great, although that size would be too big on these smaller bikes.
@@MotoJournoKris The 390 is made in India and an aftermarket accessory industry grew up around it there. I doubt you can get anything for the 401. The rack is a Zana, but I'm not sure if they are for sale anymore. Zana racks are still available but I can't find the reverse rack. It is such a neat idea. It can sit above the rear seat or further back.
@@1990-t1j Yep it's ingenious. You can do that with the Ventura racks and run them off the back of the bike or over the seat when you don't have a pillion.
Hi Kris, do you recommend this Svartpilen 401 as a first bike for beginner? I am looking for a commute bike for everyday riding from Macquarie Park to Chatswood. I'm 180cm and about 85kg. Moreover, is husqvarna as reliable as Honda regarding the quality. As a beginner I don't want to be bothered by tiny issues.
Hi mate, you won't go wrong with this bike, it's the best beginner bike on the market. I have start with this bike and same size as you. It has been a year of commuting for work on daily basis, love every minute on the bike.
@@goldmonk1979 Thx mate.
As William said, it's an ideal beginner option. The seat height is a little taller than some, but it's a great overall package. Honda have a great reputation for reliability that I'm not sure Husqvarna can match, but I'd have said build quality is similar on the surface. You do pay a premium for Honda though.
@@MotoJournoKris Just made deposit for a 2022 Svartpilen at Motohub. Thanks Kris.
@@kamima8794 Wicked, congrats!
Hey all, for owners of the svart. how have you found the reliability? ie over the course of 1-2 yrs? ie with repair issues or oil leaks etc? i'm thinking of getting one of these, as a new/beginner rider. and ideally wanting smt reliable, economical fuel consumption and easy to ride in an upright position and easy to turn and manevour. I've looked into quite a bit of this bike on various platforms, and have generally found it to fit the bill to what i'm after.
Apart from the very minor oil leak I haven't had any issues yet. There are some known issues, but they don't seem hugely widespread from what I've seen.
is this good for 2 up riding? i already have a t120 but i thought i needed a smaller bike to carry the occasional pillion.
I'd guess the T120 would be the better bike of the two by a significant margin. But I'll be testing out the pillion capabilities shortly!
how about the known downshifting problem/issue ? the bike will stall upon downshifting 2nd to 1st usually
I haven't had any issues like that yet to be honest. From what I've read that's a problem some owners have faced, but not universal, and the solutions have also varied from keeping the revs up, better fuel, all the way to more extensive warranty work, or a piggyback fuel module.
@MotoJournoKris - now that you're 8 months in on this, have you tested how 'deep' that scrambler/off-road capability is. Report back!
Hi Kris, keen for a more in depth review as I’m tossing up between this, the cbr500 r and the interceptor 650 as a second bike (started on a tu250x). Value proposition is outrageous with these. Only things I’m worried about are the stalling/cutting out issues many owners seem to report, and also the stability on freeways in terms of getting knocked about by the wind (90% of my riding will be inner city, but occasional weekend trips on the freeway for a couple of hours are on the cards). Greatly appreciate your feedback mate. Congrats on the purchase
An in depth review is definitely on the way, and I'll probably try and take it up the coast, so that'll reveal how it handles the highway for extended periods. I'll definitely keep an eye out for the stalling. Do you know if that's stock, or something that crops up with mods like exhausts/airfilters? The BMW 310s were particularly bad for stalling if the revs weren't kept quite high, but I haven't seen it on the 390s/401s. Will be interesting to see if it's more of an issue in the dirt though.
@@MotoJournoKris yeah the cutting out (from what I’ve read) seems to happen when shifting down at lights etc. looks to be relatively common from posts online etc. interesting to see how you get in with yours!
Stock setup as far as I’m aware*
@@jaydiggy86 I have heard ethanol fuel can cause that issue, but I think premium fuel is the recommendation. I never put E10 in bikes here, and normally stick to 95 or 98. I'll be interested to see if it crops up though.
@@MotoJournoKris I guess that would make sense, I know they run pretty lean. Here’s hoping it’s that simple. 9 litre tank there’s no excuses really 😂
hey, im not even a new rider yet, but Im thinking a lot about getting a svartpillen as my first bike. As i live in Europe, this bike would have the maximum power that i can get for 2 years. The only thing im not sure about this bike is that his value maybe goes down faster than other most used bikes like mt-07.
I think that would tend to be the case honestly. The 390s and 401s do seem to depreciate a bit faster than the Japanese alternatives. Obviously with the MT-07 you're paying a lot more in the first place, so that's worth considering too, where it's a more similar starting point with an R3 or Ninja 400 or similar.
Compare it to an mt-03 and it probably depreciates around the same.
Man it's beautiful
I’m late to the party! Great video as always! A couple questions if ya had a second: What’s your take on it’s reliability and maintenance? A neighbor of mine had so many random issues that seem to be quality control related, which scared me away from the bike. I’m based in a large city, so I’m lucky to have someone to work on a bike, but that valve adjustment every 4,650 miles seems brutal, and somewhat expensive. Curious to hear your thoughts on both those issues.
So far I've got a very slow oil leak in the garage after a ride if I go for a real fang, that looks like it may just be at the sump drain bolt, but I'll get it looked at next service. Valve clearance is every 9300 miles from what I can tell, and that's a check which isn't super uncommon as far as mileage. I know some bikes quote much longer figures these days, but in a lot of cases it seems like the shorter check figures are more to avoid liability, with so many people reporting across so many machines they go much longer before needing adjustment.
I'm going to have a more in depth look at the oil leak though and report back, just to see if it's something I can fix, as I feel like getting familiar with the bike is always a good thing.
Thanks for getting back! Happy to hear your issues seem relatively minor. Weird, I saw a only PDF shop manual say 4,650. Just saw my buddy’s 701 in bronze yesterday and it’s an absolute stunner as well. Too bad it’s discontinued. Wondering what they’ll do with 900 engine platform in the future!
@@muradbyunus Yep they look amazing, and the run out deals on them were crazy as well. It'll be really interesting to see honestly, I thought the 900 in the Norden was on point. The manuals can change between year models, so it could be something like that. They also occasionally vary between markets.
@@MotoJournoKris well said. Thanks again for making the video and for taking the time to reply! 🙏🏽
Shame they can't make the gas tank a bit bigger
They give you a rack for a gas can anyway
Can you advise where your Svartpilen is assembled from?
Pretty sure all of these are made/assembled in India. Only the earliest models were made in Europe before manufacturing was shifted to the Bajaj factory, which may explain the early pricing and sudden drop later on.
that jacket looks tough bro, whos the maker?, good video and hustle
Cheers! That's made by Merlin, they are a British brand from memory, been my go-to in the cooler weather recently and it's waterproof. The Merlin Sandon Waxed Cotton Jacket.
@@MotoJournoKris that's dope, thanks again brother. God bless and be safe.
I was focused on the jacket and forgot about the bike 😂, yeah I'm planning on getting the bike also, any more videos with you and the bike? If so I'll give you a follow 👍🏽
@@ReyDaMillenniumRa More on the way, just haven't had a chance to put them together yet unfortunately!
Do you think the suspension could handle a 250 pound rider?
I'd definitely say so, as it handles way more than that two-up in my experience, but you'll want to tweak the rear preload for sure.
I think you should have waited cause the new model will be out in a couple of months
They had the new model when I picked mine up, but the discount on the MY21 was a lot more attractive. If there was significant changes or improvements it may have been a different story.
how is the seat on a longer ride?
I've only done a couple of hours on the bike at a time so far, so I'll have to do some longer rides to test that properly!
Selling 2022 models here in the Uk new for £3,700
Hi when you buy it there was a quickshifter ready to go ?
They call it an 'easy shift sensor' which allows clutchless shifts. It's not as smooth as a traditional quickshifter, but it does the job.
@@MotoJournoKris thank you and easy shift sensor can damage the motor or anything ?
@@melankolikarpuz I wouldn't have thought so, unless you're really doing something wrong as a rider with your shifts.
@@MotoJournoKris Thank you so much for your answers Kris ı think ı am gonna buy it 😃
how tall are you? I would like to buy it I'm 1.80 tall I think it's small for me
I'm the same height.
Great little bike. 400-450cc is a perfect capacity
Yep, I reckon it's that sweet spot where you've got enough power to have plenty of fun pretty much anywhere.
I’m a beginner rider and tossing up between the Kawasaki z400 and the svartpilen. Which do you think best suits beginners?
I'd say the Z400 is going to be slightly more beginner friendly, especially for shorter riders, due to the lower seat height. The Svartpilen has a taller seat and the handling is more aggressive in comparison. There's a bit of subjectivity on what you prefer there. If you can get both feet down flat on both bikes, even the seat height is likely to not be a major consideration.
Thanks mate. I’m 6ft and have quite long legs. However I really liked the leg position in the K400, and how easy it is to flick around. I need a commuter but also a bike to take away on the odd weekend. But love the look of the svartpilen. Thanks for the reviews!
How is the seat comfort ?
So far so good for shorter rides, but I need to do some longer rides to see how it goes there, as that tends to be the real benchmark, at maybe 4-6 hours.
does Husqvarna ship bikes overseas? having a hard time finding local dealerships with any of these in stock and I'm tryna get one, maybe even brand new
I'm in the US btw
They should be available in the US, but there is still supply issues and in some cases the smaller capacity machines seem to get a bit less love in your market.
Where is that trail to ride?
I love mine. Not a long distance machine for sure. Waiting for the premium factory seat. Back order Blues
Interested to hear how you found it. Everything I try and order is either a huge wait or not in stock, very frustrating!
@@MotoJournoKris The seat has been paid for and is on back order since June. Aftermarket parts might be better if available it’s a bit of a specialty bike
@@MotoJournoKris back order since June
@@neilfoster9517 That's true, I've normally found a much wider variety of accessories for most bikes I've owned, but the 401 is a bit more limited on what's available.
@@MotoJournoKris I live in a small city 75K. I have the only Svart. I have talked to a student who owns the Vit. Dealer is 1 hr. Drive not a common bike I’ve had a few people ask if it’s electric when parked.
7000 AUS OTR is around 4700 US. I just paid 7600 US OTR for a 2022 Vitpilen 401. Amazing that there were leftover Svarts in Australia. There are absolutely none available in the US. BTW I didn't get a Vit because I couldn't get a Svart. I got a Vit because I wanted a Vit. There are people changing out the top triple clamp of the Vit with one that has risers for a riser bar. It may be that they wanted a Svart but there were none to be had.
I'd heard people can't get them in the US, but didn't realise the supply was that limited. Normal OTR RRP is about $1000 AUD on top of that, which makes it a little closer. Is that the normal price or has it been pushed up quite a bit? I've heard from Americans in the YN discord that when demand is tight some bikes sell way above normal pricing, which I've never seen here in Australia.
They seem to be quite a few through and sold at my local dealer. I was tempted by the Vitpilen, but thought I'd go the more relaxed bike with the dual purpose tyres. The cafe racer theme is really cool.
@@MotoJournoKris I paid $700 over the list price of $5399 US, so $6199. But, I got that much or more extra when I sold my 2019 CB300R because of the sellers market here. Markups on bikes and cars is a custom in the US when the supply is tight. I'm amazed it's not that way in Australia. There's no dirt to ride in the vicinity of Malibu but there is an abundance of tight, twisty canyon roads.
@@georgekrpan3181 I have a feeling they aren't allowed to go over the recommended ride-away price here, although that varies by state as the on-road costs do differ a little.
Nice and subbed.
I have the KTM 390 Adv. I love it.
It's a great machine too, first impressions are that it'll handle the off-road stuff better than the 401.
Hello, guys. I live in Russia and price for this bike here is ridiculous - i'ts 9k dollars. Can anyone suggest some way to buy it from us or another country where it's cheaper?
GEM..😫💥💥💥🚀
that tank "luggage rack" is actually an automatic testicle remover!
Maybe if you ride in the nude! I am kind of interested in removing it - the rack that is. See how the bike looks without it.
I’m 5’6, 197 pounds, female. Would I be able to fit this bike? Flat foot or at least ball of feet on ground?
The vit too much of a crotch rocket look/feel rider stance wise. I’m leaning towards the svart
Do you know your inseam length? That's normally the best comparison point for reaching the ground. Have you tried any other bikes for a point of comparison.
@@MotoJournoKris idk my inseam length or even how to measure that. I’ve sat on many other bikes so far. Here’s what I have sat on so far and how far my feet touch the ground:
Zero SR/F - tippy toe the ground
Benelli tnt135 - tip toe to slight ball of foot
Grom - flat foot
883 sportster - flat foot
Bintelli beast - flat foot
Honda rebel 250 - flat foot
Honda rebel 1100 DCT - flat foot
Honda navi - balls of feet touch ground
I am still in the process of sitting on more
@@lostintheclouds8719 Definitely worth checking out as many as you can. The SR/F and Benelli are around the 780-790 mm seat height from what I can see, where the Svartpilen is an extra 45 mm or so on top of that, which is pretty significant. There can be some variance with the width of the bike, to just how manageable the seat height is, but I think you'd probably only be tip-toe if you're shifted right across the seat to one side, to get that foot down. I think there's a lowering kit which may lower the bike by 25 mm or so, but that'll remain quite a bit taller than the tallest of the bikes you've mentioned.
@@MotoJournoKris ty for your reply. It’s too bad I can’t find the Svartpilen 125 anywhere b/c I think that would be the one lol.
The lowering kit I read I think said 1/4-1/2 inch it could lower… ugh… why do they make these things so high - it’s so frustrating
@@lostintheclouds8719 With all the bikes sharing the same chassis, it's a bit of a shared issue being so tall. Most of the options from other companies tend to keep it quite a bit lower, like below 800 mm, as low as 785 or so, unless you go to a cruiser, where they'll go lower still.
Good luck with reliability. I wouldn't touch a KTM with a 10foot pole.
I'm interested to see how it goes. They've had plenty of time to get the powerplant in all these sorted at this stage.
I own one and most duke 390 aftermarket parts will fit this bike as they are the same bike essentially just dressed up in a different costume
I'll have to test that out, I kind of assumed it would be the case but a lot of accessories show limited compatibility!
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Here a seemingly ridicules question.... Has any one rode 2 up? Is it capable of this even a little bit? Asking because I might have a girlfriend someday.
I'll test that out and let you know!
Are you kidding me!? That's the single most important question my friend! First thing I consider is whether I can take a hot chick on the back with me! I had a BMW g650 with a case on the back and that was a nice backrest for my ladies. I always try to think of their comfort and safety! That might be the only thing keeping me from a 401 or the 701 svart
@@miketenzer123 401/701 aren't really competing in the same space as a G650 which definitely wins on the pillion side of things.
As I read this, and thank you for all the great breakdown, I'm looking at the Honda cb500x and it looks like there are some nice options for top case and side cases. The top case being a nice backrest for a guest.
I scored a 2011 tiger 800 xc with so many upgrades! Paid 6k it has 24k miles. I love it . I still want a small bike but I can't have everything!
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Nice review