@@cynthetic4896 lazy coding. Literally that's it. TBF it's reasonable of the dev to assume that no one would reach that number, but it's still good practice to use unsigned integers for things that *shouldn't* ever be negative.
Gotta love the moment he tries selling that gold ring you can ACTUALLY watch the game's stock market crash because he caused hyperinflation to the economy.
DF, there's a special bucket that works in the same way that the compressor does, in that items will stack inside of it and anchor to the entity. Using it should allow you to carry about 50-70 of your "emeralds", and more importantly, sell them all at once. Make multiple buckets and fill them to the brim to create ungodly piles of cash with ALL the Zeros.
I might be wrong but I think the most efficient way to Max out the bars and gems is just to double it, pour it out then double it again, seems inefficient at first but it doesn’t take long for each doubling to be orders of magnitude more than if you duplicated a low value bar a bunch of times.
You see. That would be the big brain move. The galaxy brain move is to disregard that and do things the dumb way, increasing watch time, entertainment value and the number of comments.
Thats arithmetic wraparound/integer overflow. Stack refers to an internal structure in computers, and numerical underflow is typically reserved for floating point numbers, so yeah, its integer overflow :b
The conveyor belt speeds up if you use a pressure booster. Also if you want things to slide into the cauldron better, have them fall off the conveyor belt and onto a steeply aligned 2 m by 1 m sheet of metal and it will slide down in a steep angle. I have played way too much of this game.
Well that's just an example of integer overflow. When the game is supposed to give a number bigger than it can compute it goes to the absolute lowest number it can compute.
The pans/pots have the same stacking mechanic as the gem compressor, if you wanted to really test the limits you could have stood over a pan, duped the emrald and kept stacking them in a single container. You don't need to dump them out when you sell either, the game can count items in the bucket.
Nah, the book pretty heavily implies that the Emerald City is only emerald because the city requires that all visitors and residents wear emerald-colored glasses at all times. Also the Emerald City was already an old city well before the Wizard of Oz blew into town.
@@snoodledumpling4486 Its joke, but if nothing else the city does get made actually green in visual adaptations. ...Would it be the Rose City if the residents always wore Rose-tinted glasses?
The best way to load the smelters with bars is actually just to clip them inside while in your hands and then drop them. They don't actually have to fall through the opening in the top that way.
You'll hate this, but you've done more time consuming stuff Mine out a whole land claim and smelt all ores into their own bars an compress all jems into their own jem then see how much they're worth
@@gameygeemer4142 You know, I don't think it would. Assuming I'm right that the item value is stored as a hexadecimal, If every item was worth ~200, it would take 83,000 or so to hit the overflow. (roughly 16million)
It's not going into minuses because you broke the game. It's going into minuses because the economy is catching up to the fact that emeralds and gold have not just become worthless, but are now to the point where you need to pay people to dispose of them.
They need to fix that bug... Money should not have a limit and stuff should not despawn like that on the selling table. Great work on it tho, DF... I would love to see a follow up to this at some point... Maybe reach the cap for gold bar and for gem... then make them into something to see if you can get more than the cap... Or maybe even to make an item that is worth max money and then dupe it on the table to see if you can make the game give you ALL the money.
for easier selling items, you can stack gems in the bucket you use the brush in for the initial ores/gems. (you were struggling on the table at 17:30) They stack into each other like they do the truck at 19:40 and you can just set the bucket onto the table
Hope you get well soon. And though his voice may be calming, not a good choice of video to try to fall asleep to. Almost asleep when he says something ridiculous, and laugh yourself awake.
You can play borderlands games. They’re easily breakable if you know what to do, so it’ll fit your playlist of making your computer hate you and games crash
Hehe, amazing idea. The one that stuck out to me the most was the Axton glitch, right after the xp glitch of course. Haven't seen many for 3 yet, But I still have an unbreakable shield in 1.
AN EASY IN DEPTH LESSON IN COMPUTER (BINARY) NUMBERS: 11:19 The reason why the value turns negative is because they use a "signed integer", in a computer it needs to somewhere be specified how long each segment of 1 & 0 is, for it to mean something, you have probably heard about "Bytes" which is "8 bits" each "bit" is a single 1 or 0 , so a byte is some combination of: "1010 1010" (8 single bits, ignore the space, it's just easier to read). When a number is "signed" it means that (usually) the first bit determines if the value is positive or negative, in this case, lets say a 1 means that it is negative & 0 is positive, then the number: "1000 0010" would mean: "-2" the initial: "1" means negative, while the last "10" means 2, as explained below. READ BINARY NUMBERS (it's actually easy) In binary, every number doubles as you move left in the number, for example: In the binary number "0000 0000" it hast each "slots" (bits) each "slot" means a 2x higher value, here is the "value" of each slot: "128 64 32 16 - 8 4 2 1" (the - represents the space in the binary number, for easier reading) NOTE this is an "UN-signed number, where the "128" bit is used for another value, instead of signaling if it's a positive or negative number, a SIGNED number would be like this: "(+/-) 64 32 16 - 8 4 2 1" So, to convert a binary number to a "normal" decimal number as we are used to, in math you "simply" multiply each value "slot" with the binary value, (a normal human just reads the values of the 1-numbers instead). Consider this binary number (un-signed): " 0 1 0 1 - 0 1 0 1"
Its funny watching him try to automate it when doubling a number is exponential, so he could have reached a broken number faster than he could drive to town and back.
The FitnessGram Pacer test is a multistage aerobic capacity test that progressively gets more difficult as it continues. The 20 meter Pacer test will begin in 30 seconds. Line up at the start. The running speed starts slowly, but gets faster each minute after you hear this signal *boop*. A single lap should be completed each time you hear this sound *ding*. Remember to run in a straight line, and run as long as possible. The second time you fail to complete a lap before the sound, your test is over. The test will begin on the word start. On your mark, get ready, start.
Assuming a 3 byte integer, you shouldn't go negative until 16777215. However, it may be a float, and have some bits reserved for the decimal, even if it rounds the result.
Funny story. In real life, Emeralds of that size would be in the tens of millions of dollars. Each. Of all the video games, this is surprisingly the most accurate financially of all the things I have seen.
Developers FIX the game please....... Get rid of the negative values. I want to see how far DF can go. Love your videos. Keep up the good work. By the way 1.87M Subs. What are you doing when you hit 2Mil?
Put them in a bucket. I dont think they have collision in a bucket so just pile them in and check value like that. 😁 great vid DF, keep it up mah dooood!
Have you considered building a Scrooge McDuck style money bin with glass windows on one side? that way you could drop stuff in from the top and actually see it building up higher and higher!
Yes, this is definitely Scrap Mechanic. The description says so, so it must be true. This must be that update, which we've been waiting for for so long, I have forgotten what we refer to it as. "survival 2.0"? "next update"? something more specific like "advanced mining update"?
Negative value is probably because of integer overflow. When a computer tries to add one to the biggest number a variable can hold, it becomes the biggest negative number. I'm simplifying and generalizing here, but that's the basic idea. (That number is weird though, because it's not a normal size of a number in any programming language i've heard of, or on any computer built this century)
For information the reason why it goes negative is because of the 32bit integer limit, basically the number is too big so it breaks the game and it’s around 2.1billion then it goes negative
I like how you sold a gold ring made out of printed gold and not only did it reject the offer but you crashed the economy because everything immediately dipped.
there is an item called the magnet stick and it sucks in every single material item and a bucket exists which can store infinite items and any item that enters is stuck and has no collision
To quote the illustrious (and batshit crazy) John Creighton, "find a penny, pick it up. Double it; now you've got two pennies. Double it again, four. Double it 27 times and suddenly you've got a million dollars and the IRS all over your ass - because it all adds up."
If you click the red valve on the side of the conveyor piece it stops it from splashing out the end. Technically you can use a cork instead but really you don't need corks unless you just want to cap off a pipe piece and can't be bothered to put in a valve.
Btf, DF: Using the "E" key will drop items, but HOLDING the "E" key will enable precision place mode. You can place things MUCH easier that way
The power of E
… what is that pfp…
@@ElecTricalLT1 you wouldn't want to know and neither do i
It’s just hatsenu muki going a ahoge face
I lve never seen DF play a game properly and I believe he has no intention of doing any such thing
With how let’s game it out and blitz have their own little Easter eggs, I think DF really deserves one.
YES!!!
Don't forget that Draegast has one too.
He has one in the game already
@@Kas_Styles what is it?
@@Kas_Styles What is it?
12:52 It's called an integer limit, it's the largest number the code can assign to that value.
is there any reason the value isn't an unsigned int? It won't ever be
@@cynthetic4896 lazy coding. Literally that's it.
TBF it's reasonable of the dev to assume that no one would reach that number, but it's still good practice to use unsigned integers for things that *shouldn't* ever be negative.
@@8BitShadow well there still Is a max. But if it's 64 biy integer it's 64^64 which is alot
Fucked my math up it should be 2^64-1 (18,446,744,073,709,551,615)
Nerd
*insert funny joke about the stock market instantly crashing the moment DF sells the ring*
Uwu lol
I hate it when, people don’t, know how commas, work
@@OldSport3291 I, do, too, it, must, be, so, annoying, when, grammatical, errors, ruin, a, joke, huh?
@@thatwaffleguy4958 yeah, it, fucking, sucks, you, know?
@@OldSport3291 Glad you're being a champ about this. I'll be sure to edit my comment so it makes more sense.
Gotta love the moment he tries selling that gold ring you can ACTUALLY watch the game's stock market crash because he caused hyperinflation to the economy.
And it didn't even let him sell the ring
@@PartytimeYOLO just the mere _presence_ of the ring was enough to drop the prices
stock market: we have a high demand for that ring
DF: ok here's a big expensive ring
stock market:*dies*
@@unknown-bat6296 stock market ⬇️⬇️⬇️
📉📉📉📉
We all know when DF does hydroneer he's going to get enough precious metals and gems to crash the price making them essentially worthless
That profile pic I love it
He simulated economic inflation
@@eel7818 he SANK the price of emeralds and gold on a truly TITANIC scale
5th
Well not if your new but yeah basically
10:07
Gold bar: pff screw gravity and physics can suck it
DF: *_'_'_*
DF, there's a special bucket that works in the same way that the compressor does, in that items will stack inside of it and anchor to the entity. Using it should allow you to carry about 50-70 of your "emeralds", and more importantly, sell them all at once. Make multiple buckets and fill them to the brim to create ungodly piles of cash with ALL the Zeros.
what are these "emeralds" ? is it from a mod ?
@@xx_hydrag123_lp_xx7 no its kinda rare its also a gem that has to be polished
@@xx_hydrag123_lp_xx7 Bro just WATCH THE VIDEO
Why the quote marks around emeralds?
let's game it out: spends thousands of hours getting a billion dollars
dangerously funny: ROOKIE NUMBERS
The one day that they collab will be the day the universe overloads
That is Grays' quote.
Dangerously funny, let's game it out and graystillplays have the same chaotic vibe and nothing can change my mind
@@spoolofyarn6682 yo did we just comment at the same time?
Gray and df actually has done a collab in gta 5
I might be wrong but I think the most efficient way to Max out the bars and gems is just to double it, pour it out then double it again, seems inefficient at first but it doesn’t take long for each doubling to be orders of magnitude more than if you duplicated a low value bar a bunch of times.
I think that has a name but I don't really remember it
@@SG-tx1fz exponential growth ?
You see. That would be the big brain move. The galaxy brain move is to disregard that and do things the dumb way, increasing watch time, entertainment value and the number of comments.
@@SG-tx1fz magnitudes
i never thought this channel would teach about what a stack underflow is at the same time as showing what the us federal reserve does
Overflow...?
@@danbeucler3029 right LOL
Thats arithmetic wraparound/integer overflow. Stack refers to an internal structure in computers, and numerical underflow is typically reserved for floating point numbers, so yeah, its integer overflow :b
.FBI OPEN UP
fun fact, the federal reserve is not part of the government.
The conveyor belt speeds up if you use a pressure booster. Also if you want things to slide into the cauldron better, have them fall off the conveyor belt and onto a steeply aligned 2 m by 1 m sheet of metal and it will slide down in a steep angle. I have played way too much of this game.
You need more likes
I like how every episode of Hydroneer DF manages to just make a hill of ores no matter how rare the ore is
@energy glitch 303 ngl, but that sounds 100 times better.
Well that's just an example of integer overflow. When the game is supposed to give a number bigger than it can compute it goes to the absolute lowest number it can compute.
The Video: Hydroneer
The Decription: sCRaP MeCHaNic
Soo, the emerald and gold bars broke something. Turns out that thing was youtube not the game.
Df speaks so clearly that auto-generated captions ACTUALLY say what he says (unlike with most videos that AG captions completely butcher)
The pans/pots have the same stacking mechanic as the gem compressor, if you wanted to really test the limits you could have stood over a pan, duped the emrald and kept stacking them in a single container. You don't need to dump them out when you sell either, the game can count items in the bucket.
And this, ladies and gentleman, is how the wizard of oz built his city.
Nah, the book pretty heavily implies that the Emerald City is only emerald because the city requires that all visitors and residents wear emerald-colored glasses at all times. Also the Emerald City was already an old city well before the Wizard of Oz blew into town.
@@snoodledumpling4486 Its joke, but if nothing else the city does get made actually green in visual adaptations.
...Would it be the Rose City if the residents always wore Rose-tinted glasses?
U should make an account for the raw unedited videos, I’d love binging 3 hours of you gameplay
Names it "DangerouslyLong"
Yeah but then the occasional hearing him go to the bathroom and flush might worsen the experience (or better it, if you be like that).
Amazing idea honestly because hearing his voice is super calming lol
I agree
I second this action
The best way to load the smelters with bars is actually just to clip them inside while in your hands and then drop them. They don't actually have to fall through the opening in the top that way.
Anyone else notice that DF crashed the market when he offered the ring to it? Instantly every item started dropping in value lol
1 ring to crash them all, and in inflation bind them
@@Breiair You win
You'll hate this, but you've done more time consuming stuff
Mine out a whole land claim and smelt all ores into their own bars an compress all jems into their own jem then see how much they're worth
It would 100% hit the integer cap
@@gameygeemer4142 You know, I don't think it would. Assuming I'm right that the item value is stored as a hexadecimal, If every item was worth ~200, it would take 83,000 or so to hit the overflow. (roughly 16million)
Hey Df, did you know that cauldrons and pans have the same stacking mechanics and you can sell the minerals inside the pans without selling the pan?
SOMEONE COPY PASTED UR COMMENT AND ARE GETTING MORE LIKES!
I was going to say that
It's not going into minuses because you broke the game. It's going into minuses because the economy is catching up to the fact that emeralds and gold have not just become worthless, but are now to the point where you need to pay people to dispose of them.
Attempts to sell "-" emerald, all coins in the world disappear.
Thats quite funny explanation for variable overflow
Haha
They need to fix that bug... Money should not have a limit and stuff should not despawn like that on the selling table. Great work on it tho, DF... I would love to see a follow up to this at some point... Maybe reach the cap for gold bar and for gem... then make them into something to see if you can get more than the cap... Or maybe even to make an item that is worth max money and then dupe it on the table to see if you can make the game give you ALL the money.
18:22 that actually puts massive numbers in perspective super well
1 minute =1.7 billion
≈10 HOURS = 1 trillion
This is blowing my mind
for easier selling items, you can stack gems in the bucket you use the brush in for the initial ores/gems. (you were struggling on the table at 17:30)
They stack into each other like they do the truck at 19:40 and you can just set the bucket onto the table
Starts off driving the truck backwards to his plot.....yep I'm watching DF.
I normally stay up to watch these videos but today is different I'm so sick that I just put it on and let it go while I'm trying to sleep
😞
Hope you get well soon. And though his voice may be calming, not a good choice of video to try to fall asleep to. Almost asleep when he says something ridiculous, and laugh yourself awake.
use the magnet on a stick to attract things to you in the middle to make bigger piles
Little did DF know that you can fly with a wagon
Ah yes, mining gold in "Scrap Mechanic" thanks YT for your super helpful video labels.
Piglins and villagers are hunting this man
THIS IS WEIRD BUT AHHH his voice + funny + the backround music + the game play make him my favourite youtubber!
do you know the name of the music he uses in this video
Could have just duplicated gold nuggets for the conveyor belt, though it would have been considerably slower.
you have to stay up intill 11:00 in real time just to watch it early
Thanks for using my video idea. Love the content.
You can play borderlands games. They’re easily breakable if you know what to do, so it’ll fit your playlist of making your computer hate you and games crash
Hehe, amazing idea. The one that stuck out to me the most was the Axton glitch, right after the xp glitch of course. Haven't seen many for 3 yet, But I still have an unbreakable shield in 1.
me thinking I’m about to walk into a regular video
my brain: our favorite game breaker is back 🙃
Gotta love that Stardew Valley soundtrack in the background.
I feel like this might be sancrillage but if you have the gems flow into a bucket it shouldnt lag as much unless you dump it
Procedes to dump bucket from a max harvested largest claim after 10+ hours of mining.
Thanks TH-cam this is definitely scrap mechanic
Shoutout to the person who had this idea
You should've just worked with exponential growth, would've saved so much time. multiply once and combine, then repeat..
Yes and no, since replicating is fast and combining is slow, 1 by 1 is not the most efficient. Not sure what would be, 5 or 10 at a time maybe?
The integer limit broke pretty fast, dang
16:35 “I don’t know at what point the game is going to break”
Game *breaks*
Let’s game it out getting a billion dollars and being wanted in the game with no hacks or mods
Most TH-camrs have that "Excited, high energy" type voices. While this guy has an oddly satisfyingly, calming voice.
I love this series on hydroneer, I love it keep it comming
DF forgot about buckets and how they're like the back of the truck, but portable and small
AN EASY IN DEPTH LESSON IN COMPUTER (BINARY) NUMBERS:
11:19 The reason why the value turns negative is because they use a "signed integer", in a computer it needs to somewhere be specified how long each segment of 1 & 0 is, for it to mean something, you have probably heard about "Bytes" which is "8 bits" each "bit" is a single 1 or 0 , so a byte is some combination of: "1010 1010" (8 single bits, ignore the space, it's just easier to read). When a number is "signed" it means that (usually) the first bit determines if the value is positive or negative, in this case, lets say a 1 means that it is negative & 0 is positive, then the number: "1000 0010" would mean: "-2" the initial: "1" means negative, while the last "10" means 2, as explained below.
READ BINARY NUMBERS (it's actually easy)
In binary, every number doubles as you move left in the number, for example:
In the binary number "0000 0000" it hast each "slots" (bits)
each "slot" means a 2x higher value, here is the "value" of each slot:
"128 64 32 16 - 8 4 2 1" (the - represents the space in the binary number, for easier reading) NOTE this is an "UN-signed number, where the "128" bit is used for another value, instead of signaling if it's a positive or negative number, a SIGNED number would be like this: "(+/-) 64 32 16 - 8 4 2 1"
So, to convert a binary number to a "normal" decimal number as we are used to, in math you "simply" multiply each value "slot" with the binary value, (a normal human just reads the values of the 1-numbers instead).
Consider this binary number (un-signed):
" 0 1 0 1 - 0 1 0 1"
The conveyer part annoyed me so much considering all he had to do was move the cauldron back a tiny bit
The cauldron snaps to a grid he can't move it in small amounts
@@wingedfish1175 I saw a comment that you can change it I think
Am I the only one who wants to hear DF do a full on laugh, belly included 😅
I love at around 16 minutes, "I wonder when it's going to break"
Random piece of machinery "DO YOU LIKE PINA COLADAS"
Villager: I'll give ya 5 dirt, and that's being generous
I love when he has Stardew music in the background. Back to the roots
“Luck is clearly on my side” HELMET
'Every Emerald Is Worth $9,000,000'
Villager: idk like... 2 bread for 32 emeralds
Letsgameitout became a millionaire by fishing in this game
Its funny watching him try to automate it when doubling a number is exponential, so he could have reached a broken number faster than he could drive to town and back.
And that is why you use floating point in these types of games, it is so the value cannot overflow…
Gotta love how TH-cam thinks this is Scrap Mechanic
The FitnessGram Pacer test is a multistage aerobic capacity test that progressively gets more difficult as it continues. The 20 meter Pacer test will begin in 30 seconds. Line up at the start. The running speed starts slowly, but gets faster each minute after you hear this signal *boop*. A single lap should be completed each time you hear this sound *ding*. Remember to run in a straight line, and run as long as possible. The second time you fail to complete a lap before the sound, your test is over. The test will begin on the word start. On your mark, get ready, start.
the gold bar at 3:58 lost its breathing privileges
Assuming a 3 byte integer, you shouldn't go negative until 16777215. However, it may be a float, and have some bits reserved for the decimal, even if it rounds the result.
I love the stardew music in the background
Would have been faster to just multiply a small piece of gold than digging all the way down
Funny story. In real life, Emeralds of that size would be in the tens of millions of dollars. Each. Of all the video games, this is surprisingly the most accurate financially of all the things I have seen.
Hey DF, not sure if you noticed but when pouring the little green circle below what your holding is where in will go.
It's hydronare it's never that simple
Geez I just clicked off that comment I just made on to a new video and it already has a like
This is my favorite visualization of exponential growth. And that was my nickname at math camp.
Df needs to stack all yhose expensive gems onto 1 buccket, then sell that bucket.
You know the numbers are getting large when the signed integers overflow and it's barely halfway through the video.
Bless whoever came up with this idea
Integer overflow DF... Integer. Overflow. At least on a single material.
You could use the Grinder on the Uncut gems from compression DF.
Developers FIX the game please....... Get rid of the negative values. I want to see how far DF can go. Love your videos. Keep up the good work. By the way 1.87M Subs. What are you doing when you hit 2Mil?
DF makes our days better
Ahhh yes posting when I need to sleep thanks for sleep deprivation!
shocked you haven't made a mountain of gold coins to swim through like that weird rich duck
Put them in a bucket. I dont think they have collision in a bucket so just pile them in and check value like that. 😁 great vid DF, keep it up mah dooood!
Have you considered building a Scrooge McDuck style money bin with glass windows on one side? that way you could drop stuff in from the top and actually see it building up higher and higher!
Yes, this is definitely Scrap Mechanic. The description says so, so it must be true. This must be that update, which we've been waiting for for so long, I have forgotten what we refer to it as. "survival 2.0"? "next update"? something more specific like "advanced mining update"?
In todays episode, DF manages to perform an Overflow Glitch while doing nothing.
Negative value is probably because of integer overflow. When a computer tries to add one to the biggest number a variable can hold, it becomes the biggest negative number.
I'm simplifying and generalizing here, but that's the basic idea.
(That number is weird though, because it's not a normal size of a number in any programming language i've heard of, or on any computer built this century)
For information the reason why it goes negative is because of the 32bit integer limit, basically the number is too big so it breaks the game and it’s around 2.1billion then it goes negative
villager: idk about that man i think its worth 5 rotten flash
thats a lot of "green nuggies". this is, hands down, the best "mountain" so far 🤣👍👌
I laughed so hard I cried the first time he accidentally hit the compressor with the wand
DF: "Im a problem solver"
Me:ummmmmmmmm....
Lol i love you Df keep being you forever
I like how you sold a gold ring made out of printed gold and not only did it reject the offer but you crashed the economy because everything immediately dipped.
there is an item called the magnet stick and it sucks in every single material item and a bucket exists which can store infinite items and any item that enters is stuck and has no collision
You should make a roundabout carrying billions of gold around in an endless loop
Did really deserves an Easter egg, although let’s game it out is a wanted Criminal
DangerouslyFunny and Let's Game It Out should really do a collab
To quote the illustrious (and batshit crazy) John Creighton, "find a penny, pick it up. Double it; now you've got two pennies. Double it again, four. Double it 27 times and suddenly you've got a million dollars and the IRS all over your ass - because it all adds up."
"I could slow down my auto clicker" said everyone ever and then no one ever actually does it lol
If you click the red valve on the side of the conveyor piece it stops it from splashing out the end. Technically you can use a cork instead but really you don't need corks unless you just want to cap off a pipe piece and can't be bothered to put in a valve.
Df playing basketball with a 100000 dollar ball that’s actually a bar
youtube's genius, love the scrap mechanic video
Hydroneer is just another form of redstone from Minecraft