I have the same setup. Except my interface is the1824c. The Pro VLA is a surprisingly good sounding compressor. The new auto time align feature on pipeline S1 4 is awesome too.
STAND THOSE ERIS SPEAKERS BACK UPRIGHT!!😛 They are designed to be upright. You are hearing the woofer BEFORE the tweeter & that changes your listening experience. I know a lot of folks do this BUT it is NOT right & ruins the speaker design & thus the reason you spent so much money on them in the first place.😁 PS. Love your channel, your humor, & especially your studio build series. Very interesting! Nice work! You did a wonderful job! Congratulations!!!!
Great video! The best declaration for S1 pipeline in the net including the wiring. Thanks a lot. Very helpful. I'm trying to work with the new Piepeline XT. Ok it works, but I hoped, that I can use it on every buss channel to do the settings differently for drums, bass, guitars and so on with only one hardware processor. But that doesn't seem to work.
If you want to output all those buses, you need that many outputs and inputs via your Audio Interface and just as many outboard Compressor units. You can always process one bus at a time by recording/printing the return onto a new track.
Good to meet you thanks for the video. I'm having trouble trying to get mine on my master bus I'm running Studio One 5 and Focusrite 8pre usb the problem I've been having is not getting a signal back from pipeline even though my IO is set up in my DAW.
There's a way to level the output by adjusting the compressor its self by opening it up and adjusting some knobs. I haven't done it myself yet but there's a video on it on TH-cam. This method makes it easier than using software to adjust the balance.
i use to own a PRO VLA comp, really liked it. but the Left and Right are out by a dB, i used it in Mid Side via an MSED plugin. mate, swap the tubes for a pair of JJ's u will love it
Thanks for the video. I also have S1 and an outboard Stereo Buss Compressor. I just can't figure out how to print my master buss, going through the compressor to another track in real time.
About to get the Art Pro VLA but just for tracking vocals. Signal chain will be condenser mic to focusrite ISA One preamp to VLA compressor to ID-14 interface. I know you use yours for mastering but if you could give me any advice such as cables I'll need and what inputs and outputs to go in that would be appreciated. If you have any videos where you use the compressor to track vocals, please point me in that direction.
You can certainly use the ART VLA in dual mode to use one or both compressors in series for even better results. Mic -> Focusrite -> VLA Channel One -> VLA Channel Two -> ID-14. Settings for VLA, this video might help th-cam.com/video/cu6P-gHXXQ4/w-d-xo.html
figured that out few months ago when i got the new presonus 1824c @ first i was baffled like i swore i saw some where the inputs were stepped like vla 2, they didn't even have an idea how to address it, i just stumbled upon this just goes to show critical thinking is important
Good day , I love you channel . I bought a Behringer Tube T1953 and would like to set it up. Please help me. I’m using Studio One 4, Focusrite Pro40 interface, Presonus Monitor Station V2 and a Faderport 16. Please help me to use in it my DAW.
Nice information here, thanks. Q. How do you make a Master? Do you export all tracks or play and record back into a new pair of tracks. Im using Cakewalk by Bandlab.
@@RecordingStudio9 it would be awesome, I really wanna hear what your gear does, specially VLA in a mix bus for mastering as Im very interested in get one!
hi , I do all of my work in the box ,and would like something like this for mastering my tracks to give it a bit of analog feel , how do set it it up ?? my set up is ,I use logic on Mac ,come out of computer into apogee sound card ,would I take stereo out of sound card into compressor and then the stereo out of the compressor back into the sound card to record back into logic to master ??? thanks
@@RecordingStudio9 thanks for getting back to me ,,,ahhh I only have left and right out ,[apogee elements 24]. ,but I don't have a sub as my room is so small ,,so I could just use the 2 outputs from apogee to compressor then compressor to inputs to apogee back into my DAW ,thanks again , AHHH THAT MAY NOT WORK AS ILL NO BE ABLE TO LISTEN TO WHATS GETTING PLAYED
stephen callaghan - You can still do it with only 2 outputs technically, but it would require a small mixer in between the way back from the compressor to your interface. You’d be able to monitor the sound from the mixer. One issue you could have is feedback loop from interface once you go back in, but to solve that you would just mute in your DAW the output of the channel on your interface in which you record into.
@@RecordingStudio9 sounds good ,iv been up all night try to link up 2 audio inter faces as iv got a apogee elements 2\4 and a duet and worked out the audio midi set up but still no good hahaha. iv also got a QSC touch mix mixer was going to try to use that next ,I can imagine a lot of people would be interested as most of us have small audio interfaces ,iv not bought a compressor yet was looking at the FMR -RNC 1773 as im not a rich man I think that kind of comp would be good for live as well on the master chain ,, looking for ward to it ,,,hope your good
Hi! Thank you for all videos you putting up = ) I have a quick questions about monitoring. Have the same monitors like you. Why do you put the monitor down? I have it up. More bas in the center for better monitoring? Qestion nr 2 : I have problems in my room with frekvenses round 80hz and 130 hz. This make it hard to listen good in the mixes specially with the electric bas för tuning amd mixing. Thanks
The PreSonus Eris E8 is designed to be standing up, but I personally found it to have better stereo image, as well as wider 'sweet spot' having them laid down. This is because the shelf they are sitting on is a bit too high for my seating location and way above my ears. I hope soon to build myself a better suited custom desk so they will align correctly with speakers standing up as they are designed for. Use the low cut switch at the back to adjust of the 80Hz to 130Hz is a problem (I have a problem in that frequency too). It got better as I now have more room in the new studio and they are further away from the back wall, and they now have less peak/dip in the low frequency range. The only way I could compensate for it is via Sonarworks Reference 4 software. It's because of the room size and not the speakers.
I bought the pro vla compressor and I cannot get it to work in pro tools, do u have another social media platform I can contacted you to guide me through the process? Also, Anyone reading my comment and can help me out I would appreciate it very much.
u have to route with an extra output bus to the ins of the VLA and theoutputs of the VLA getting in the inputs on the interface... I changed the daw to reaper just because of that.
I have a question: you did the left and right balance in your interface, however the PRO VLA is dual, when you have different Output levels on the right and left side or even different threshold level on left and right, this does not affect the final balance of the track? or the VLA have Link mode? I get a bit confused.
The Pro VLA can be in Link Stereo or Dual Mono mode. When processing a mono channel like drum kick & snare, I use the unit as 2 mono compressors with individual processing channels. When I use it for let's say a drum bus, then I engage the link mode to process stereo, so each channel trigger both compressors.
Sometimes, but I use the VLA as bus compressor and print/save to s new track. This way I can use the VLA multiple times on many buses. I also use the VLA 2 channels in series on vocals.
Hello, love your videos! I see that you have some behringer equipment. I'm a student studying audio engineering and I want to start building a rack, but I have a students budget. What behringer rack equipment would you say is good? And are there any other low cost compressors you would recommend? Thank you!
I have several Behringer rack compressors and to me personally, they are fine but I feel they sound a bit harsh. I normally use them on drums and guitars on the way in as inserts on my mixer.
Sir I am new to Cakewalk bandlab .. its hard for me to use the side chain compressor ..For the lead vocal , while the vocal part appear , how can I make the music dim or soft ? and again when the vocal part finishes I want the music level come to its original volume level .
Hi! At 01:54 that it's the setup for mastering but can i use for record vocals at the same time. What i mean it' to have setup for vocal and plus Mastering . It will work ?
All Analog gear will induce some noise, but with most quality units like this one I have, it's so low you can't hear it. Best to use on buses rather than individual channels so the noise doesn't accumulate.
I have the same setup. Except my interface is the1824c. The Pro VLA is a surprisingly good sounding compressor. The new auto time align feature on pipeline S1 4 is awesome too.
STAND THOSE ERIS SPEAKERS BACK UPRIGHT!!😛 They are designed to be upright. You are hearing the woofer BEFORE the tweeter & that changes your listening experience. I know a lot of folks do this BUT it is NOT right & ruins the speaker design & thus the reason you spent so much money on them in the first place.😁 PS. Love your channel, your humor, & especially your studio build series. Very interesting! Nice work! You did a wonderful job! Congratulations!!!!
Relax, they are back upright. I was experimenting 😁
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Great Video Vatche, very informative.. Cheers
So very very informative. Thanks!
super guy!
thank you ombree ! ! !
Great video! The best declaration for S1 pipeline in the net including the wiring. Thanks a lot. Very helpful. I'm trying to work with the new Piepeline XT. Ok it works, but I hoped, that I can use it on every buss channel to do the settings differently for drums, bass, guitars and so on with only one hardware processor. But that doesn't seem to work.
If you want to output all those buses, you need that many outputs and inputs via your Audio Interface and just as many outboard Compressor units.
You can always process one bus at a time by recording/printing the return onto a new track.
You are right. I think so, too. Thank you.@@RecordingStudio9
Nice explanation,👍👍👍
Thanks and welcome
I was hoping to hear what it sounds like before I was thinking about getting one
I plan to do a video next time I’m using the compressor on my master bus. Will have audio examples. There are a few audio samples on TH-cam by others.
Good to meet you thanks for the video. I'm having trouble trying to get mine on my master bus I'm running Studio One 5 and Focusrite 8pre usb the problem I've been having is not getting a signal back from pipeline even though my IO is set up in my DAW.
There's a way to level the output by adjusting the compressor its self by opening it up and adjusting some knobs. I haven't done it myself yet but there's a video on it on TH-cam. This method makes it easier than using software to adjust the balance.
Thanks. I'm planning to update the tubes soon. Might look into it at the same time 🤔
RecordingStudio9.com It’s definitely worth a shot. Would make for a good video idea too.
BTW, having a balanced input and output is important, regardless of outboard gear levels.
Nice video, thank you!
thanks for sharing your efforts.
Great unit!
i use to own a PRO VLA comp, really liked it. but the Left and Right are out by a dB, i used it in Mid Side via an MSED plugin. mate, swap the tubes for a pair of JJ's u will love it
I noticed that too. I use it as twin mono setup.
Thanks
plz help me i want to master with ART vla ii connected with Presonus Studio 6/8 Usb in Reason 12
plz tell me how to route cables in reason 12
th-cam.com/video/hOvqwnGkflc/w-d-xo.html&ab_channel=ReasonStudios
Thanks for the video. I also have S1 and an outboard Stereo Buss Compressor. I just can't figure out how to print my master buss, going through the compressor to another track in real time.
Which audio interface do you have? You need one with at least 4 inputs and outputs.
@@RecordingStudio9 , I have a Focusrite Safire pro 40. 8 ins and 8 outs plus ADAT and SPDIF.
Great video thx :)
About to get the Art Pro VLA but just for tracking vocals. Signal chain will be condenser mic to focusrite ISA One preamp to VLA compressor to ID-14 interface. I know you use yours for mastering but if you could give me any advice such as cables I'll need and what inputs and outputs to go in that would be appreciated. If you have any videos where you use the compressor to track vocals, please point me in that direction.
You can certainly use the ART VLA in dual mode to use one or both compressors in series for even better results. Mic -> Focusrite -> VLA Channel One -> VLA Channel Two -> ID-14.
Settings for VLA, this video might help th-cam.com/video/cu6P-gHXXQ4/w-d-xo.html
Very useful Sir. Can you show other hardwares for different mixing and mastering compatible different plugins
figured that out few months ago when i got the new presonus 1824c @ first i was baffled like i swore i saw some where the inputs were stepped like vla 2, they didn't even have an idea how to address it, i just stumbled upon this just goes to show critical thinking is important
Will it be good for Rap/HipHop music? Does it give that nice Analog/professional sound?
As I would mention, it’s not the tools but the master who makes a masterpiece 😊
Nice set up! does that compressor have a "Peak Stop" or can it "Limit"?..
If you are referring to Brick Wall Limiting, then analog gear don't really work that way. But yes, you can have 20:1 ratio for limiter function.
thank you
soon as i noticed the ISK isolator i knew you're in australia :D possibly canberra
Sydney actually :)
@@RecordingStudio9 Nice!!
i feel the VLA shaves off (smoothes) some high-frequency in a gentle way. Did u feel that too? I have been using it for just a month now.
Good day , I love you channel . I bought a Behringer Tube T1953 and would like to set it up. Please help me. I’m using Studio One 4, Focusrite Pro40 interface, Presonus Monitor Station V2 and a Faderport 16.
Please help me to use in it my DAW.
Nice information here, thanks. Q. How do you make a Master? Do you export all tracks or play and record back into a new pair of tracks. Im using Cakewalk by Bandlab.
You can use both methods to master the stereo. th-cam.com/video/0Fgdh0p1kEg/w-d-xo.html
Also, could be very nice if you could stream the audio in your next videos to hear the real sound of your process
Maybe next time I'm using it and I'm not in rush and do have the time.
@@RecordingStudio9 it would be awesome, I really wanna hear what your gear does, specially VLA in a mix bus for mastering as Im very interested in get one!
hi , I do all of my work in the box ,and would like something like this for mastering my tracks to give it a bit of analog feel , how do set it it up ?? my set up is ,I use logic on Mac ,come out of computer into apogee sound card ,would I take stereo out of sound card into compressor and then the stereo out of the compressor back into the sound card to record back into logic to master ??? thanks
Yes, that is it. As long as your Apogee has 4 outputs, 2 for main and 2 for sub outputs to compressor.
@@RecordingStudio9 thanks for getting back to me ,,,ahhh I only have left and right out ,[apogee elements 24]. ,but I don't have a sub as my room is so small ,,so I could just use the 2 outputs from apogee to compressor then compressor to inputs to apogee back into my DAW
,thanks again , AHHH THAT MAY NOT WORK AS ILL NO BE ABLE TO LISTEN TO WHATS GETTING PLAYED
@@yamansitar6153 Correct, you need 4 outputs to make it work.
stephen callaghan - You can still do it with only 2 outputs technically, but it would require a small mixer in between the way back from the compressor to your interface. You’d be able to monitor the sound from the mixer. One issue you could have is feedback loop from interface once you go back in, but to solve that you would just mute in your DAW the output of the channel on your interface in which you record into.
Great timing, I was going to buy the VLA this week, couldn't find any routing videos for my 1824. Any comments on the sound quality of the VLA Vatche?
hi is there another way of doing this if your sound card has only a stereo out ,thanks
No, you need 2 stereo out. There is a work around that I used to use in my early days. I might make a video about it.
@@RecordingStudio9 Ahhh that would be great ,thanks ,looking forward to it
Possibly in the next few days :)
@@RecordingStudio9 sounds good ,iv been up all night try to link up 2 audio inter faces as iv got a apogee elements 2\4 and a duet and worked out the audio midi set up but still no good hahaha. iv also got a QSC touch mix mixer was going to try to use that next ,I can imagine a lot of people would be interested as most of us have small audio interfaces ,iv not bought a compressor yet was looking at the FMR -RNC 1773 as im not a rich man I think that kind of comp would be good for live as well on the master chain ,, looking for ward to it ,,,hope your good
@@yamansitar6153 I assume you are on MacOS?
Hi! Thank you for all videos you putting up = )
I have a quick questions about monitoring. Have the same monitors like you. Why do you put the monitor down? I have it up. More bas in the center for better monitoring? Qestion nr 2 : I have problems in my room with frekvenses round 80hz and 130 hz. This make it hard to listen good in the mixes specially with the electric bas för tuning amd mixing. Thanks
The PreSonus Eris E8 is designed to be standing up, but I personally found it to have better stereo image, as well as wider 'sweet spot' having them laid down. This is because the shelf they are sitting on is a bit too high for my seating location and way above my ears.
I hope soon to build myself a better suited custom desk so they will align correctly with speakers standing up as they are designed for.
Use the low cut switch at the back to adjust of the 80Hz to 130Hz is a problem (I have a problem in that frequency too). It got better as I now have more room in the new studio and they are further away from the back wall, and they now have less peak/dip in the low frequency range.
The only way I could compensate for it is via Sonarworks Reference 4 software.
It's because of the room size and not the speakers.
if youre feeding mono jacks on the inputs of the art pro vla is it ok to use trs sterio jacks out of it? how will it come back in?
I bought the pro vla compressor and I cannot get it to work in pro tools, do u have another social media platform I can contacted you to guide me through the process?
Also, Anyone reading my comment and can help me out I would appreciate it very much.
u have to route with an extra output bus to the ins of the VLA and theoutputs of the VLA getting in the inputs on the interface... I changed the daw to reaper just because of that.
@@highlynoise ok thanks
Hey, I see you own a Alto unit. I'm curious, what do you think about it?
I have a question: you did the left and right balance in your interface, however the PRO VLA is dual, when you have different Output levels on the right and left side or even different threshold level on left and right, this does not affect the final balance of the track? or the VLA have Link mode? I get a bit confused.
The Pro VLA can be in Link Stereo or Dual Mono mode. When processing a mono channel like drum kick & snare, I use the unit as 2 mono compressors with individual processing channels. When I use it for let's say a drum bus, then I engage the link mode to process stereo, so each channel trigger both compressors.
great video vatche on using an analog gear to master a song.
I will also use it for your song mix too.
@@RecordingStudio9 thanks man, can wait to hear the mastered draft. bless you, man!
can't wait
Do you use VLA as the last thing in mastering chain?
Sometimes, but I use the VLA as bus compressor and print/save to s new track. This way I can use the VLA multiple times on many buses.
I also use the VLA 2 channels in series on vocals.
Can we get a video on more detail on the pro vla compressor
Yes, I have plans to make one soon.
@@RecordingStudio9 good good cause it's not one on TH-cam
Really? Hmm. I bet get it started :)
Hello, love your videos! I see that you have some behringer equipment. I'm a student studying audio engineering and I want to start building a rack, but I have a students budget. What behringer rack equipment would you say is good? And are there any other low cost compressors you would recommend? Thank you!
I have several Behringer rack compressors and to me personally, they are fine but I feel they sound a bit harsh. I normally use them on drums and guitars on the way in as inserts on my mixer.
@@RecordingStudio9 ok thank you for the advice :)
Sir I am new to Cakewalk bandlab .. its hard for me to use the side chain compressor ..For the lead vocal , while the vocal part appear , how can I make the music dim or soft ? and again when the vocal part finishes I want the music level come to its original volume level .
My next video on Cakewalk is about sidechain compression. Coming soon.
Thank you sir.
Hi! At 01:54 that it's the setup for mastering but can i use for record vocals at the same time. What i mean it' to have setup for vocal and plus Mastering . It will work ?
Yes. The setup would be the same. Instead of sending the master mix bus, you send your vocal channel or bus and back via Pipeline VST.
Can this be done on a motu 2i/2o and ableton?
Hi.. can it work on some havey Bass ..like rap song 808 kick type songs
As long as you know how to use the compressor, yes.
Do you get some noise when you turn it on?
All Analog gear will induce some noise, but with most quality units like this one I have, it's so low you can't hear it. Best to use on buses rather than individual channels so the noise doesn't accumulate.
@@RecordingStudio9 thanks
put the monitors in the correct position please ! ;-)
There's no reason why I can't experiment with speaker orientation.
FREE FREE FREE. my son is doing mastering services using all hardware, let me know if you want to get your song mastered
You can balance the VLA channels internally ...there is a screw to adjust near he valve on channel 2. th-cam.com/video/4wzUF5hn-ug/w-d-xo.html
Thanks. Watched it 2 years ago.