Vex going back down to 360 rpm single-handedly killed its viability in PvP. Igneous Hammer with golden tricorn and radiant outshines nearly everything now. The same goes for SMGS and how dominant they still are. Vex used to be "fun".
I don't think the artifact mods need to become fragments,radiant is the easiest of all buffs to acquire equally on all subclasses through torches and solar subclasses are very strong in themselves already,compare that to unraveling or volatile rounds which require a kill with melee and grenade respectively to proc without an exotic or devour and woven mail that require an orb except on warlock for devour or woven mail on titan intrinsically through the subclass.Radiant is already very strong and easy to proc.We don't need more fragments to make it even better.
@@charles2183 I said “should” rather than “need to.” Besides, Bungie has turned mods into fragments in the past (most notably Spark of Instinct. It used to be a mod called Reactive Pulse before it got removed with surges and armor charges in Lightfall). Also, just because Solar subclasses are strong doesn’t mean they shouldn’t get new fragments and whatnot. Case in point, Ember of Mercy and Ember of Resolve were both added in Season of Defiance with Lightfall, which came MONTHS after Solar 3.0 was introduced. And besides, artifact mods becoming fragments only serve to give you more powerful build potential, so what gives?
@@hans8663 i'm not saying solar subclasses shouldnt get fragments or artifact mods becoming fragments is something new,what i meant is radiant is far easier to proc than the other buffs equally on all solar subclasses so if it gets even more easier to proc other subclasses should get the same buff or neither get buffed.
Vex Mythoclast makes my triple fusion build pop. Briar’s, Vex and Scatter Signal with Rain of Fire is all your shots make you radiant and it shreds. Reloading all your guns with one Icarus Dash is strong af
@@leahcim6663 Quicksilver already exist and basically does mythos job better. Being able to get a free super shot by just landing hits makes QS vastly outperform mytho.
I would like to see it get its 390 rpm reverted, but I saw someone say that it should get onslaught as a part of the catalyst and that would be perfect. Would make it so you need to earn the high rpm in PVP so the 3 people who thought it was overpowered before can be happy
honestly the only people who thought it was overpowered just didn't know how to play the game. theres times I'd go on tears with it and people would switch and still be at the bottom. but if they used a handcannon, 340 pulse, smg etc. and actually know how the map works id be toast. when I got in real player lobbies I'd find myself switching off it alot because it was mostly a uphill battle unless I got them to commit.
@@JoeMama-qt5go Only op thing about Mytho is the lfr mode. Nerfing the rpm didn't fix the problem with it since if you manage to get it active your mostly unbeatable.
@AxisChurchDevotee and that's only in 6v6 modes which makes this change even worse. because in modes like trials now its actually useless as 360s are trash, and you can't even use the linear mode. and If your in high skill lobbies 3 kills in a row isn't always easy. but now good luck.
@handsomeDRAC did try and do nezerac, then someone complained that no one was communicating when to run to the platforms yet idk how I'm supposed to say that during an encounter, on a timer and on console (who can't evan say gg at the end of a game, due to the activity end leader board prompt taking it over)
I know mythoclast needed some help to come back into relevancy, but i find it funny that it got buffed to "feel more like a swiss army knife" when Revision Zero is already the "swiss army knife exotic" lol
You should review tyranny of heaven now. With the dragonfly and incandescent, and adding solar surge artifacts. This weapon can literally wipe out almost entire whole mob of enemies.
@@julioforessi1336 yeah no. If far out classes any special ammo linear fusion. Because it already does what they do AND is also a good primary weapon. People used sleeper because the DPS was killer. People used Arbalest because it destroyed shields and had intrinsic anti-barrier. Vex can shred ads, and destroy champs. AND you can still use a rocket launcher and get Wolfpack rounds. That's more than enough. What y'all want is to make it essentially a power weapon too. And then y'all will just get it nerfed into the ground.
I wish that they would noticed 1k voices being left behind, as an alrounder weapon its completly overshadowed by eyes of tomorrow since it got buffed and nobody plays eyes. Even before eyes got buffed it was still a slightly stronger do to slightly better ammo economy and its dmg perk, would have been the perfect season to give 1k some love. The wishwall would have been a great potential sources to get a cata anyway.
yea true but then they should change it and have it be 100% instead of 40%. then they should have it automatically apply radiant and 4x surge mods when you do that too
I’ve been using Vex Mythoclast on my Warlock with Rain of Fire. the build has been around forever, it’s an oldie but goodie lol. the main benefit is that every Vex Mythoclast kill gives you radiant, since VM counts as a fusion rifle. free reloading on icky dash, constant radiant damage increase, etc etc. all of this gets elevated by 1000% because this season has crazy artifact mods for solar weapons / subclasses. with this build and all of the artifact mods, Vex basically gets dragonfly and incandescent LOL. it’s gnarly as fuck dude.
Polaris Lance is amazing but it really isn't a close range gun. Its amazing for pinking from afar and setting fire to the world but Vex is a medium range monster while it does need kills to trigger its LFR shots its good at killing red bars for that and great at yellow bars especially champions. They do different things and that is ok. D2 isn't about having a single best gun that does everything remember.
Revision Zeros biggest issue is it's a kinetic weapon. Most builds are so dependant on slemental synergy the kinetic slot is basically useless if it's not stasis or strand.
It's not useless,it's a utility and activity dependent slot when on a light subclass such as dps rotations or anti champ weapons.The issue with revision zero is that wish ender outclasses it so much that it's not worth it as an anti barrier exotic or even long range adclear as wish ender oneshots every red bar no matter the level of content.
I used Revision for the Cosmodrome GM, it fucking destroys barriers just as efficiently as Wishender. Both are viable for endgame, people just need to give it a chance, assuming they have all the intrinsic upgrades and the catalysts.
Vex definitely needs its 390rmp back since it doesn't have the range and flinch of a 360 auto so i find myself getting outgunned at times even if I got the first shot
I busted Vex out the first week of the season when I started unlocked some of the good mods in the Artifact. I had forgotten how good it felt. Knowing it’s buffed like this now, I’m gonna play with it even more!! Awesome Vid!!
Vex in PvE is like a hot knife through butter. In PvP it after the RPM nerf it feels like it just gets out gunned if you are not shooting first. Vex is my favorite weapon in the game and I desperately want Bungie to put it back to 390. It made it feel special and could actually take on weapons with Target Lock. With the RPM nerf anything with Target Lock out guns it which is sad. With that said I am hopeful that Bungie will hear us Vex enjoyers and buff the RPM back to 390 and let us have our time in the Sun once more. After all, Vex isn't even in the to 100 weapons used in Trials anymore so there isn't a reason for them to even fear buffing it back up. There are enough weapons out now that buffing Vex back up to 390 RPM would not change the sandbox in any meaningful way, but allow us Vex enjoyers the ability to actually fight back against the hard meta. I really hope Bungie sees the data and goes well shit we made a bad choice, lets fix that.
May RNGenus bless you with Thy drop of our Lord Mythoclast!!!! I had this gun in Destiny 1, and when it came time to farm Vault once lfg was active, I went thru hell (so many bad groups) just to get this to drop!! Then one really good Catalyst group!!! The gun is just fun to use!!
id like to state that with certain builds especially rain of fire builds you pretty much have infinite radiant effects on vex mytho making it pretty much intrinsic anti barrier
I use rain of fire, vex, supremacy bait and switch rewind rounds, last wish rl with bait and switch reconstruction 🤷♂️ it’s kind of my go to solar lock build
I feel it should have scorch and incandescent by either catalyst or by its base default. Once the artifact mod goes, it isnt super great anymore and outshined by other options
@@natestrand4922the weavewalk aspect on strand activates Rain of Fire, but it is much more clunky to have to phase twice for a reload. And it's tied to your melee energy.
So for anything above Legend content Polaris lawns is still obviously the best option so the real question now is are you team vex mythoclast or are you team sunshot personally I'm team vex all the way a lot of people might not like to hear it but in most Legend content the red bars are just two beefy and sunshots scorch just isn't as beneficial or do as much damage as vex's linear fusion mode
Cross, you gotta have your editors include the name of the outro songs in the video description. I can usually Shazam most of them but the one in this video I’ve been trying to find for ages and can’t find it.
I'd use vex more if it could do what tyranny of heaven could. Synergy and crowd control. It's a shame that one of the most iconic fusion rifles is worse at doing what a pre-order exotic could do in terms of ads and synergy .I wish it had incandescent when it's damage perk was active, and maybe an ignition on three perfect Precisions or something. It's good, but it's not the best at wiping out adds. That's great for champion damage, but I will just swap to a special or have a conservative heavy that I save ammo generally for.
I kinda wish all 360's were 390, that slight bump in fire rate makes vex feel really really good in general, not just PvP. I'm also the kind of person who misses 900 RPM auto rifles though, so maybe I'm biased... RIP Doctrine of Passing, RIP Silimar's Wrath.
I think hawkmoon should have disruption break or gain paracausal shots on damaging elemental shields or even just add a shot back each time and make gemini jester remove elemental shields in pve
people over hype the LFG, in most cases you are not going to hold the shot for champions, you are going to chunk yellow bars to keep moving through the gm. Which is the problem. in order to benefit from the 200% from champs you either have to stop and hope you can kill things in time to get the lfg, then hope someone else stuns the champion for you (excluding radiant anti-barrier) just to get a few shots off. It's poor design and it wouldve made more sense to make it boss damage 200% instead because then you could get a couple hits in during dps but it wouldnt be overly powered due to needing to get kills in order to activate. over all, vex is great for trash ads, but even this season there are better options, i guess it is a swiss army knive but a plastic cosplay one. The real swiss army knife right now is polaris lance. I wish the artifacts mods were actual fragments that you had to build into inorder to get these effects. i'd put my investment to get the consistency of polaris
Or, get this. You are doing a GM, you know where the champions are, you stun an Overload or Unstoppable then you switch to Vex, hold reload and delete champions. Everyone comparing this to Polaris Lance doesn't get it. Vex isn't going to plink everything to oblivion, but it is viable weapon. There are what? 2 better solar primary exotics than it and I like it better than Sunshot.
They should make the max stacks 4 instead of 6 to make the LFR not as much of a hassle to have when you need it. They can just make it so you only get 1 stack in PvP so it doesn’t get really overpowered
It's utterly useless. Vex just feels terrible in PVE. It needs a rework to be good in end game content. Requiring kills to charge it up just to shoot a champion is not worth it when you can just use a weapon that stuns that champion. Huge swing and a miss
I swear to God they gave this buff a while ago, I'm not crazy right?? Everyone was losing their shit a few months ago ab how it was losing anti-barrier and gaining massive damage against champions and how it'd overtake Wish-Ender in Grandmasters
Well I don't know if it's worth using now, but imagine a world in which Bungie didn't constantly Nerf everything only to buff it back to where it was later!
With it being a primary wepon would it get the damage bonus from whisper of rending that would stack with raidient this season 🤔 even in its fusion rifle mode
If you are going to nerf everything I use, that didn't even need to, to stupidly buff other stuff, with your logic, buff Quicksilver grenades 200% as well, the gun is bad...
Did Cross skip over torch? If you are looking at buffs. Vex on a strand or stasy warlock absolutely melts. You dont get the reload buff from the boots but all fusions melt from just one kill and getting radiant.
I’m honestly shocked by the amount of “mid” weapons that got the spotlight in the past like what? 2 years? Like first it was merciless in I think plunder, then (as far as I remember) sunshot peaked in defiance-deep, and now Polaris Lance and Thorn. And I’m not gonna go without saying I for sure missed a definite few.
I still have yet to get that weapon. Can't find anybody to play with to do the raid to get it. And I've never even done the raid so I have no clue what to do so I'd be more a burden to people that are experienced in it if I did the fire team finder.
Strand also got some great artifact mods, and if you run a Strand build you also need to factor in the gazillion of 30k+ damaging Threadlings that the Quicksilver will give rise to in use. I think the balance is good but I wonder if Quicksilver doesn't have an edge. It's also easier to acquire if you don't have the Mythoclast.
Vex needs to be reverted to a 390 imo. Word of crota out ranges it and has the sword logic trait that like vexs catalyst gives is a 20% damage buff on kill. So in 3's vex is just a worse abyss defiant.
Some of the seasonal artifact mods should become fragments. And yes, Vex needs to return to being a 390.
Vex going back down to 360 rpm single-handedly killed its viability in PvP. Igneous Hammer with golden tricorn and radiant outshines nearly everything now. The same goes for SMGS and how dominant they still are. Vex used to be "fun".
I don't think the artifact mods need to become fragments,radiant is the easiest of all buffs to acquire equally on all subclasses through torches and solar subclasses are very strong in themselves already,compare that to unraveling or volatile rounds which require a kill with melee and grenade respectively to proc without an exotic or devour and woven mail that require an orb except on warlock for devour or woven mail on titan intrinsically through the subclass.Radiant is already very strong and easy to proc.We don't need more fragments to make it even better.
@@charles2183 Honestly, I just really prefer gunplay to abilities so being able to proc radiant with weapons has been amazing.
@@charles2183 I said “should” rather than “need to.” Besides, Bungie has turned mods into fragments in the past (most notably Spark of Instinct. It used to be a mod called Reactive Pulse before it got removed with surges and armor charges in Lightfall). Also, just because Solar subclasses are strong doesn’t mean they shouldn’t get new fragments and whatnot. Case in point, Ember of Mercy and Ember of Resolve were both added in Season of Defiance with Lightfall, which came MONTHS after Solar 3.0 was introduced. And besides, artifact mods becoming fragments only serve to give you more powerful build potential, so what gives?
@@hans8663 i'm not saying solar subclasses shouldnt get fragments or artifact mods becoming fragments is something new,what i meant is radiant is far easier to proc than the other buffs equally on all solar subclasses so if it gets even more easier to proc other subclasses should get the same buff or neither get buffed.
Vex Mythoclast makes my triple fusion build pop. Briar’s, Vex and Scatter Signal with Rain of Fire is all your shots make you radiant and it shreds. Reloading all your guns with one Icarus Dash is strong af
You can also swap scatter signal for riptide so you can stun overloads and unstops then deal with barrier with radiant!
That's why Rain of Fire is used in high end DPS by day 1 and speed runners. The ability to bypass reloads is top tier.
This is my build also and I’ll never take it off.
keep in mind you don't need a fusion for the reload aspect of it, I'm sure ur already aware but wanted to lyk just in case u weren't!
Can you still get the weapon or no
I wish it worked like revision, getting the linear energy on crit hits would feel way better imo.
Then it would be broken asf w the damage boost thats a horrible idea
@@leahcim6663 Quicksilver already exist and basically does mythos job better. Being able to get a free super shot by just landing hits makes QS vastly outperform mytho.
@@leahcim6663 How.
I never said it would be 6 shots.
Make it more like 30 shots to fully charge, OR the kills.
Yeah pvp wise will be broken.
The way vex works now synergizes better w caty
I would like to see it get its 390 rpm reverted, but I saw someone say that it should get onslaught as a part of the catalyst and that would be perfect. Would make it so you need to earn the high rpm in PVP so the 3 people who thought it was overpowered before can be happy
All 360 autos should be 390 tbh since they are all terrible.
The three people can fuck off, auto rifles are not competitive in any way and even a 390 vex doesn’t stack up to the meta weapons.
honestly the only people who thought it was overpowered just didn't know how to play the game. theres times I'd go on tears with it and people would switch and still be at the bottom. but if they used a handcannon, 340 pulse, smg etc. and actually know how the map works id be toast. when I got in real player lobbies I'd find myself switching off it alot because it was mostly a uphill battle unless I got them to commit.
@@JoeMama-qt5go Only op thing about Mytho is the lfr mode. Nerfing the rpm didn't fix the problem with it since if you manage to get it active your mostly unbeatable.
@AxisChurchDevotee and that's only in 6v6 modes which makes this change even worse. because in modes like trials now its actually useless as 360s are trash, and you can't even use the linear mode. and If your in high skill lobbies 3 kills in a row isn't always easy. but now good luck.
Sadly, I don't know how but after 0 runs of VoG I somehow still don't have it, rng is a pain.
I feel your pain.
Try the new fireteam finder. You'll get players who dont use mics and act like blueberries the whole time.
I get how you feel! I haven't played D2 in a week so idk why I haven't gone flawless yet. 😔
@handsomeDRAC did try and do nezerac, then someone complained that no one was communicating when to run to the platforms yet idk how I'm supposed to say that during an encounter, on a timer and on console (who can't evan say gg at the end of a game, due to the activity end leader board prompt taking it over)
@@ThatHunter1509 clearly I was being sarcastic.
Anyone else remember the particle deconstruction days, vex was amazing in pve 😢
Vex was king alongsude with 1k voices 😮
I know mythoclast needed some help to come back into relevancy, but i find it funny that it got buffed to "feel more like a swiss army knife" when Revision Zero is already the "swiss army knife exotic" lol
You should review tyranny of heaven now. With the dragonfly and incandescent, and adding solar surge artifacts. This weapon can literally wipe out almost entire whole mob of enemies.
It could do that before but now it’s even better. Tyranny of heaven sweep
They should've made it so the buff applies to bosses and such
That would be broken
No. It would be Arbalest/Sleeper all over again.
Yeah I agree.
@@julioforessi1336 yeah no. If far out classes any special ammo linear fusion. Because it already does what they do AND is also a good primary weapon. People used sleeper because the DPS was killer. People used Arbalest because it destroyed shields and had intrinsic anti-barrier. Vex can shred ads, and destroy champs. AND you can still use a rocket launcher and get Wolfpack rounds. That's more than enough. What y'all want is to make it essentially a power weapon too. And then y'all will just get it nerfed into the ground.
That would've made it the only option to use
I wish that they would noticed 1k voices being left behind, as an alrounder weapon its completly overshadowed by eyes of tomorrow since it got buffed and nobody plays eyes. Even before eyes got buffed it was still a slightly stronger do to slightly better ammo economy and its dmg perk, would have been the perfect season to give 1k some love. The wishwall would have been a great potential sources to get a cata anyway.
For real. 1k needs a MASSIVE ammo reserves buff. Like at LEAST double it.
the dev team cannot find a way to buff 1k without breaking it. That’s why they haven’t buffed it or added a catalyst yet.
Rain of Fire Warlock build with Vex is really fun to play - no reloads!
Would be amazing if vex get particle descontruction as a intrinsic perk, like after landing 4 HS on a target
That would be broken
yea true but then they should change it and have it be 100% instead of 40%. then they should have it automatically apply radiant and 4x surge mods when you do that too
@@9ballcietyand then also make all your weapons shoot at once and automatically reload
@@9ballciety Don't forget wolfpack rounds.
@@9ballcietyeach linear shot would also instantly cause an ignition
Well get ready to see an increase of usage of vex in pvp now regardless of there being no change to it
I’ve been using Vex Mythoclast on my Warlock with Rain of Fire. the build has been around forever, it’s an oldie but goodie lol.
the main benefit is that every Vex Mythoclast kill gives you radiant, since VM counts as a fusion rifle. free reloading on icky dash, constant radiant damage increase, etc etc. all of this gets elevated by 1000% because this season has crazy artifact mods for solar weapons / subclasses. with this build and all of the artifact mods, Vex basically gets dragonfly and incandescent LOL. it’s gnarly as fuck dude.
In a world of osteo and quicksilver, funs guns like vex get the shaft. Linear dmg to champs going up is cool but i much prefer the higher rpm.
Having to get kills to get the linear shots makes Polaris lance a better option
They both are good!!! Polaris is good for distance fights, while Mythoclast is good for un close while being able to deal big chunks to champs!!!
They serve two totally different purposes.
Polaris Lance is amazing but it really isn't a close range gun. Its amazing for pinking from afar and setting fire to the world but Vex is a medium range monster while it does need kills to trigger its LFR shots its good at killing red bars for that and great at yellow bars especially champions.
They do different things and that is ok. D2 isn't about having a single best gun that does everything remember.
Depends on your playstyle and group.
Ur comparing apples and oranges bro ☠️☠️☠️
Revision Zeros biggest issue is it's a kinetic weapon. Most builds are so dependant on slemental synergy the kinetic slot is basically useless if it's not stasis or strand.
It's not useless,it's a utility and activity dependent slot when on a light subclass such as dps rotations or anti champ weapons.The issue with revision zero is that wish ender outclasses it so much that it's not worth it as an anti barrier exotic or even long range adclear as wish ender oneshots every red bar no matter the level of content.
Kinetic does 15% more damage than strand and stasis.
Wish ender is also kinetic. You’ll use both for barriers
I used Revision for the Cosmodrome GM, it fucking destroys barriers just as efficiently as Wishender. Both are viable for endgame, people just need to give it a chance, assuming they have all the intrinsic upgrades and the catalysts.
@@SniperWolfKing77it's only 10% for primary weapons
Vex definitely needs its 390rmp back since it doesn't have the range and flinch of a 360 auto so i find myself getting outgunned at times even if I got the first shot
I busted Vex out the first week of the season when I started unlocked some of the good mods in the Artifact. I had forgotten how good it felt. Knowing it’s buffed like this now, I’m gonna play with it even more!! Awesome Vid!!
This Vex Mythoclast video reminded me once more how sick Quicksilver Storm is.
I can’t stop using this with Foetracer on a solar Hunter. It’s fantastic and I don’t even have the Catalyst yet.
Chill Clip Riptide with Vex with the seasonal mods means you can stun every champion in the game regardless of subclass choice :)
I wish they would revert the firing rate change. Just doesn't feel the same
All 360s should be 390 given how terrible they feel to shoot.
Wouldn't know. Was never able to get it to drop after 50+ VoG runs. Stopped caring after that 😢
GOT IT FIRST TRY XD
That sucks…
Took me 85 runs for anarchy 75 for thousand voices. Shut up and keep grinding
43 for me lol. 1k on 3rd, Eyes on 8th, Collective on 21st, Touch on 13th
i still havent gotten it after 0 vog runs, but i got eot 4th run
I swear the vex mythoclast is crazy glued to my hands at this point even made my armor mach it
As hard as it was to get this shit it should be the most OP gun in the game took me 63 VOG runs
Vex in PvE is like a hot knife through butter. In PvP it after the RPM nerf it feels like it just gets out gunned if you are not shooting first. Vex is my favorite weapon in the game and I desperately want Bungie to put it back to 390. It made it feel special and could actually take on weapons with Target Lock. With the RPM nerf anything with Target Lock out guns it which is sad.
With that said I am hopeful that Bungie will hear us Vex enjoyers and buff the RPM back to 390 and let us have our time in the Sun once more. After all, Vex isn't even in the to 100 weapons used in Trials anymore so there isn't a reason for them to even fear buffing it back up. There are enough weapons out now that buffing Vex back up to 390 RPM would not change the sandbox in any meaningful way, but allow us Vex enjoyers the ability to actually fight back against the hard meta. I really hope Bungie sees the data and goes well shit we made a bad choice, lets fix that.
I don’t really care how much damage they give it. It still feels like shit at 360 RPM. Bring it back to 390 RPM. PvP be damned.
We need exotic class items with some the best past artifact mods. Feels one dimensional when all we have is armor charges.
Just got it my first vault of glass run since d1 it’s so much fun
That gun design is 1 step away from a hair dryer and 2 steps away from an adult toy
What vex beeds is the be able to load alt fire with 1 2 or 3 shots depending on the bars. Not always going for 3
May RNGenus bless you with Thy drop of our Lord Mythoclast!!!! I had this gun in Destiny 1, and when it came time to farm Vault once lfg was active, I went thru hell (so many bad groups) just to get this to drop!! Then one really good Catalyst group!!! The gun is just fun to use!!
It's has evaded me forever
id like to state that with certain builds especially rain of fire builds you pretty much have infinite radiant effects on vex mytho making it pretty much intrinsic anti barrier
I use rain of fire, vex, supremacy bait and switch rewind rounds, last wish rl with bait and switch reconstruction 🤷♂️ it’s kind of my go to solar lock build
I feel it should have scorch and incandescent by either catalyst or by its base default. Once the artifact mod goes, it isnt super great anymore and outshined by other options
vex is goated with rain of fire on something like strand, even tho not being a 390 rpm anymore (rip)
You don’t get the air dodge reload though unless you’ve got the solar aspect though
@@natestrand4922the weavewalk aspect on strand activates Rain of Fire, but it is much more clunky to have to phase twice for a reload. And it's tied to your melee energy.
@@natestrand4922 yea you do, try it out
So for anything above Legend content Polaris lawns is still obviously the best option so the real question now is are you team vex mythoclast or are you team sunshot personally I'm team vex all the way a lot of people might not like to hear it but in most Legend content the red bars are just two beefy and sunshots scorch just isn't as beneficial or do as much damage as vex's linear fusion mode
Let's Make Vex Great Again! Let's Make Vex Great Again!
Cross, you gotta have your editors include the name of the outro songs in the video description. I can usually Shazam most of them but the one in this video I’ve been trying to find for ages and can’t find it.
I'd use vex more if it could do what tyranny of heaven could. Synergy and crowd control. It's a shame that one of the most iconic fusion rifles is worse at doing what a pre-order exotic could do in terms of ads and synergy .I wish it had incandescent when it's damage perk was active, and maybe an ignition on three perfect Precisions or something. It's good, but it's not the best at wiping out adds. That's great for champion damage, but I will just swap to a special or have a conservative heavy that I save ammo generally for.
1:30 Did that overload champion just give up🤣🤣
I kinda wish all 360's were 390, that slight bump in fire rate makes vex feel really really good in general, not just PvP. I'm also the kind of person who misses 900 RPM auto rifles though, so maybe I'm biased... RIP Doctrine of Passing, RIP Silimar's Wrath.
5:24 How do grenade launchers "beautifully synergize" with Strand?
unravel mainly, and in QSS's case free tangles
I hate the 360 rpm nerf for PvP. It’s horrible in PvP now
I think hawkmoon should have disruption break or gain paracausal shots on damaging elemental shields or even just add a shot back each time and make gemini jester remove elemental shields in pve
people over hype the LFG, in most cases you are not going to hold the shot for champions, you are going to chunk yellow bars to keep moving through the gm. Which is the problem. in order to benefit from the 200% from champs you either have to stop and hope you can kill things in time to get the lfg, then hope someone else stuns the champion for you (excluding radiant anti-barrier) just to get a few shots off. It's poor design and it wouldve made more sense to make it boss damage 200% instead because then you could get a couple hits in during dps but it wouldnt be overly powered due to needing to get kills in order to activate. over all, vex is great for trash ads, but even this season there are better options, i guess it is a swiss army knive but a plastic cosplay one. The real swiss army knife right now is polaris lance. I wish the artifacts mods were actual fragments that you had to build into inorder to get these effects. i'd put my investment to get the consistency of polaris
Or, get this. You are doing a GM, you know where the champions are, you stun an Overload or Unstoppable then you switch to Vex, hold reload and delete champions. Everyone comparing this to Polaris Lance doesn't get it. Vex isn't going to plink everything to oblivion, but it is viable weapon. There are what? 2 better solar primary exotics than it and I like it better than Sunshot.
If only I could get one. Been grinding since D1 day 1 and never got one in either game
Great breakdowns as always!
Running solar hunter with foretracer makes this vex weapon insane against champions.
Vex and a chill clip riptide covers all champions. Slow overload shatter unstoppable radiant barrier
I miss particle deconstruction and breach and clear
I love the vex but when I have a full charge and need to stun a champ, I lose the charge every time I switch to stun them
They should make the max stacks 4 instead of 6 to make the LFR not as much of a hassle to have when you need it. They can just make it so you only get 1 stack in PvP so it doesn’t get really overpowered
I wish people were still willing to help get the catalyst. I never see that anymore in LFG because everybody has it or just moved on
I mean if you run rain of fire with vex mythoclast it’s also basically intrinsic anti barrier
Loving these geomags on strikes.
I wonder how Tarrabah and 1k voice will go this season. Also, what is the reason that other raid exotics don't have catalysts yet?
Vex need an intrinsic overload staggering in my opinion. Would be awesome, at the moment is no point to use instead of a polaris lance.
It's utterly useless. Vex just feels terrible in PVE.
It needs a rework to be good in end game content. Requiring kills to charge it up just to shoot a champion is not worth it when you can just use a weapon that stuns that champion.
Huge swing and a miss
Agreed, should of left the RPM the fuck alone
Sounds like _someone_ isn’t a warlock…
Step one: switch to a warlock
Step two: farm for "Rain of Fire" boots
Step three: enjoy
@@shaolinrasta2289 Its even fun as a nighthawk hunter!! And got the path of burning steps titan pants!! The gun can pop!!!
Rev zero does very decent damage to champions in its base form .
I swear to God they gave this buff a while ago, I'm not crazy right?? Everyone was losing their shit a few months ago ab how it was losing anti-barrier and gaining massive damage against champions and how it'd overtake Wish-Ender in Grandmasters
Vex never had anti barrier unless fusions were in the artifact
My favorite weapon in the entire game lol even in D1 I rock this all the time 💪🏽
What do you recommend as the best loadout for PvP?
They should add onslaught to the Catalyst imo!
Best idea in this comment section
Well I don't know if it's worth using now, but imagine a world in which Bungie didn't constantly Nerf everything only to buff it back to where it was later!
With it being a primary wepon would it get the damage bonus from whisper of rending that would stack with raidient this season 🤔 even in its fusion rifle mode
you doing a review on PalWorld?
34,888 kills on mine now. All because of Season of the Fusion Rifle damage bonus, I forget which, just after Beyond Light.
I’m on about 17k myself… PvP kills, that is 😂
Season of The Lost with Particle Deconstruction
I was using this to farm encounter 1 of RoN master. Straight up deleting the barrier champs with ease 😂
You should check out wicked implement and salvation grip for next nightfall
If you are going to nerf everything I use, that didn't even need to, to stupidly buff other stuff, with your logic, buff Quicksilver grenades 200% as well, the gun is bad...
Will do an update on revision zero?
Here’s to hoping champions are getting phased out 🤞🏻
Destiny is such an awesome game,the sandbox just keeps getting better and better and better.
A radiant vex with stasis effected enemy... today's to do list begins.
Did Cross skip over torch? If you are looking at buffs. Vex on a strand or stasy warlock absolutely melts. You dont get the reload buff from the boots but all fusions melt from just one kill and getting radiant.
I’m honestly shocked by the amount of “mid” weapons that got the spotlight in the past like what? 2 years? Like first it was merciless in I think plunder, then (as far as I remember) sunshot peaked in defiance-deep, and now Polaris Lance and Thorn. And I’m not gonna go without saying I for sure missed a definite few.
Reason we haven't heard as much about vex, is because the drop rate makes it less accessible as the other options
Vex goes hard with Mantle of Battle Harmony.
The linear buff works on lightbearer hive aswell
This may sound weird, but non meta loadouts are more fun to me😂 i will still sell out and use the meta but still
as a person who uses rain of fire in pvp, no, vex does not need to be 390, also, try vex with weavers trance in pve
I was wondering how do I get that vex rifle
Still haven't gotten the vex after 100 clears
I did Pit of Heresy solo with Vex back in the day 🤷♂️ ease of use is incredible because everything around you is dead
I still have yet to get that weapon. Can't find anybody to play with to do the raid to get it. And I've never even done the raid so I have no clue what to do so I'd be more a burden to people that are experienced in it if I did the fire team finder.
But the fireteam finder has teaching runs, TH-cam has raids for dummies guides, get it done.
Strand also got some great artifact mods, and if you run a Strand build you also need to factor in the gazillion of 30k+ damaging Threadlings that the Quicksilver will give rise to in use. I think the balance is good but I wonder if Quicksilver doesn't have an edge. It's also easier to acquire if you don't have the Mythoclast.
to this day i still haven't gotten this exotic. rng hates me
Your not missing out really. Currently not worth the stress after I had to deal with clearing VoG 44 times just to get mine.
i've done triple that and still don't have one
Use path of burning steps or battle harmony to give it solar buff to damage
Great. Now can they just improve its drop rate?
I would love to see you play palworld
It is kinda silly the buff for linear only applies to champs. Would be nice and make sense if it applied to heavy hitters that aren't champs
This with ROF is all I've been using for the last 3 seasons😂
Vex needs to be reverted to a 390 imo. Word of crota out ranges it and has the sword logic trait that like vexs catalyst gives is a 20% damage buff on kill. So in 3's vex is just a worse abyss defiant.
Aftrr 500 plus vog clears, i still dont have my vex mythoclast😢.
Oh good, one of the hardest exotics to get is OP now. Fun
who remembers early d1 vex in pvp😮😢
I’m waiting on Cross to upload a video playing PalWorld
Can I just ask how people consider revision zero to be good?
I still haven’t got the weapon! My clan let the whole game go! I want it so bad