Gotta disagree. Ned and Renly, would immediately send ravens to call their banners the very night of the plot. Stannis would do the same as soon as he received word. They would move on Tywin before he had a chance to fully mobilize Only real question is if the Tyrells also joined in immediately to secure a post-war marriage Pact, or if they delay
the route to kings landing is a lot quicker from the west than it is from the north and storms end. Only thing that could delay the army would be petty attacks from mountain people
Renly would have accepted being a great lord. He'd have the Reach and defacto control of the Stormlands; and that's enough. Stannis was rigid, but not stupid. All he wanted from his great lords was a bent knee.
You know how long it takes to get a fleet all the way across the continent ? Plus it's dangerous to leave Lannisport exposed to Ironborns and Reachmen.
?? Kingslanding breached in a day?? No. Seiges are vastly in the favor of the defenders. A quick seige is about a month long. Typically, a seige is months long playing the starvation/resources game, not breaking the physical walls.
Yeah they’re still on their way as it weeks/months to get there. Ned has a few hundred of his household guard with him from when he first arrived, that’s who counts as the North here
I wanted to ask, can you make a what if Jamie Lannister married Sansa stark? I really believe those two together could have won the game of thrones and bring peace to the 7 kingdoms.
That could have happened. Tywin was desperate to get Jaime to agree to leave the Kingsguard. And if Jaime getting back to Kingslanding after swearing an oath to protect Sansa had found Joffrey still beating her then he might have agreed. In the show she was already married to Tyrion and he wasn't letting Joffrey abuse her anymore. In the books Joffrey was dead and Sansa had fled. But if there was a scenario where Jaime swears to Catelyn to save Sansa, Tryion hadn't married her and she is either in danger or in the dungeons with Tryion. Then I can absolutely see Jaime agreeing to marry Sansa, to leave the Kingsguard and be the heir to Casterly Rock, in return for Tywin declaring Sansa innocent and sending Tyrion to the Wall or Essos or wherever. Tywin wants an heir and wants Jaime to leave the Kingsguard and marry. He wants Tyrion gone and he wants Lannister claim to the North. Cersei screamed to everyone that Tyrion murdered Joffrey, so he needs a scapegoat. I can see it happening.
@@trollpikken6907 yeah that makes sense although that would be interesting to see them in this battle fighting alongside the Starks and the Baratheons.
Lol I think you need to look at Westeros geography, stannis would be there first, Jamie would not be fighting against the vanguard of a siege, the lannisters don’t have enough troops to take kings landing alone oh and Renly can’t fight lol
Lol I know what you're saying but in this Tywin already had his forces ready to go to fight in the Riverlands and thus was able to immediately head for King's Landing. Yes Stannis on Dragonstone is just across the bay but he needed more time to gather a big enough force to hold King's Landing which also requires ships etc. He trusted Ned to hold it for as long as possible to give him more time. If Stannis just headed straight there with a few thousand men then Tywin would arrive to Stannis as King but then immediately surround and kill him. Jamie would absolutely be leading the vanguard, the Lannisters have 60,000 men which is more than enough to take King's landing. Finally, renly in the books is a solid fighter, he's just a younger, slightly smaller Robert.
Lolz! Renly can definitely fight. Read the books, he is described as lean and strong. He resembles a younger Robert B., also very impulsive like his brother.
Stormlands is way closer to King's Landing than Westerlands. The idea that Tywin (with 3 days delay) could rally his troops and arrive before Stannis is quite impossible. But well, for the story ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
@@GOTGeeks88lies he never fought or killed anyone the books say so he actually hurt someone in a tournament and had nightmares about it you didn’t read the books did lol
I've read every single book including fire and blood, knight of seven kingdoms etc. He doesn't have the resume of Robert for sure, but he's clearly a solid fighter at the very least, the idea of a Baratheon prince not at least being involved in a battle even at the back is ludicrous he would 100% fight
Gotta disagree. Ned and Renly, would immediately send ravens to call their banners the very night of the plot. Stannis would do the same as soon as he received word. They would move on Tywin before he had a chance to fully mobilize
Only real question is if the Tyrells also joined in immediately to secure a post-war marriage Pact, or if they delay
the route to kings landing is a lot quicker from the west than it is from the north and storms end. Only thing that could delay the army would be petty attacks from mountain people
Renly would have accepted being a great lord. He'd have the Reach and defacto control of the Stormlands; and that's enough.
Stannis was rigid, but not stupid. All he wanted from his great lords was a bent knee.
I think that you omited the armies of Renly and Ned, they would gater their bannermen the same night of the plot.
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Tywin, you forgot to bring your Navy from Lannisport! How are you gonna lay a siege without complete surroundings? 😅😂
You know how long it takes to get a fleet all the way across the continent ? Plus it's dangerous to leave Lannisport exposed to Ironborns and Reachmen.
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HOW THE HELL DID JAIME GET TO CASTERLY ROCK FROM KING'S LANDING
Why couldn't this have been the way it went down
?? Kingslanding breached in a day?? No. Seiges are vastly in the favor of the defenders. A quick seige is about a month long. Typically, a seige is months long playing the starvation/resources game, not breaking the physical walls.
how big are the forces like if the whole northern army is in kings landing there is no way they are even breachng the gate
I don't think they are there, the full northern army I mean. It would take a tremendous amount of time for them to get down there.
Yeah they’re still on their way as it weeks/months to get there. Ned has a few hundred of his household guard with him from when he first arrived, that’s who counts as the North here
Excellent theatre
He wasn't in Snowpiercer.
I wanted to ask, can you make a what if Jamie Lannister married Sansa stark? I really believe those two together could have won the game of thrones and bring peace to the 7 kingdoms.
That could have happened. Tywin was desperate to get Jaime to agree to leave the Kingsguard. And if Jaime getting back to Kingslanding after swearing an oath to protect Sansa had found Joffrey still beating her then he might have agreed. In the show she was already married to Tyrion and he wasn't letting Joffrey abuse her anymore. In the books Joffrey was dead and Sansa had fled. But if there was a scenario where Jaime swears to Catelyn to save Sansa, Tryion hadn't married her and she is either in danger or in the dungeons with Tryion. Then I can absolutely see Jaime agreeing to marry Sansa, to leave the Kingsguard and be the heir to Casterly Rock, in return for Tywin declaring Sansa innocent and sending Tyrion to the Wall or Essos or wherever. Tywin wants an heir and wants Jaime to leave the Kingsguard and marry. He wants Tyrion gone and he wants Lannister claim to the North. Cersei screamed to everyone that Tyrion murdered Joffrey, so he needs a scapegoat. I can see it happening.
WHY IS JAIME NOT IN A CELL HE IS A KINGSGUARD AND WOULD HAVE BEEN IN KINGS LANDING
Where are the Knights of the Vale and the Riverrun forces in this battle?
They havent had the time to rally, nor would they necessarily.
@@trollpikken6907 yeah that makes sense although that would be interesting to see them in this battle fighting alongside the Starks and the Baratheons.
Not to mention that Lysa, is more self-interested. So, it would not be possible to send aid, prefer to the domain to stay secluded.
Lol I think you need to look at Westeros geography, stannis would be there first, Jamie would not be fighting against the vanguard of a siege, the lannisters don’t have enough troops to take kings landing alone oh and Renly can’t fight lol
Lol I know what you're saying but in this Tywin already had his forces ready to go to fight in the Riverlands and thus was able to immediately head for King's Landing. Yes Stannis on Dragonstone is just across the bay but he needed more time to gather a big enough force to hold King's Landing which also requires ships etc. He trusted Ned to hold it for as long as possible to give him more time. If Stannis just headed straight there with a few thousand men then Tywin would arrive to Stannis as King but then immediately surround and kill him. Jamie would absolutely be leading the vanguard, the Lannisters have 60,000 men which is more than enough to take King's landing. Finally, renly in the books is a solid fighter, he's just a younger, slightly smaller Robert.
Not in the time frame you seem to use. Historically 60k isn’t enough to take a city with the walls that we saw.
But well written.
Lolz! Renly can definitely fight. Read the books, he is described as lean and strong. He resembles a younger Robert B., also very impulsive like his brother.
@@kyomendoza9891who did he kill or fight you just making stuff up
Stormlands is way closer to King's Landing than Westerlands. The idea that Tywin (with 3 days delay) could rally his troops and arrive before Stannis is quite impossible. But well, for the story ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Stannis is sailing from dragonstone, not marching from the stormlands, though that is even closer to King's Landing
Renly fighting lol
lol in the books he’s a fantastic fighter, basically just a younger slightly smaller Robert
@@GOTGeeks88lies he never fought or killed anyone the books say so he actually hurt someone in a tournament and had nightmares about it you didn’t read the books did lol
I've read every single book including fire and blood, knight of seven kingdoms etc. He doesn't have the resume of Robert for sure, but he's clearly a solid fighter at the very least, the idea of a Baratheon prince not at least being involved in a battle even at the back is ludicrous he would 100% fight
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