I’m glad you posted this. I wrestled with these brakes for three days. My main hang up was the brake mounts because the ones on my Framed Judgement were a smidge too big. I ended up sanding them down and finally getting them to fit. It was the first time I’ve put all new brakes on any bike so it was a learning experience. Thank you for posting up such good tutorials. I probably watched this video 35 times lol
Oh my god thank you for making this video bro. I could not find a single video on Mafiabikes brake jobs. At least not ones that look like my kush 2. Your bike has the same type of brake setup and frame though. I was wanting to put this same rear brake on my bike but wasn’t sure where to start. Still pretty new to this whole working on bikes thing. But I’m trying ! 😂
@@Amalgamotionhe’s the goat. But yeah I’ve had the same reaction at pretty much every mafia part I’ve worked on so far besides …… idk 🤷 😂 I dropped my bike the other day and the brake bent barely I dropped it from hip height and it broke the tension spring or whatever holds tension so careful of that! If you hear a Loud click, just stop, don’t waste two hours like me, you broke that set 😂
Thanks man! Been a while. Never mounted fully from a brakeless frame. Made it much easier on me. Running Springfields on a Sunday EX frame build. Not sure the year of the frame but Source sent me 3 different brake mount kits after getting the brakes through them. They finally sent me a link to Stolenbikes, a Type-D mount kit. Stolen sent me a note saying I’d have to sand the mounts down a tad to fit Odyssey brakes, 😅 well I made it here. Finally at the end. We’ll see how she goes after this.
I digress. I don’t understand the issue with these brakes. Before even hooking up the cable, pushing the brake arms in by hand I cannot get both pads to touch the rim before they start to bind-up together near the spring. I thought with the newer removable type brake setup I’d be able to swap back and forth depending on the park/street/trails. God I’m frustrated.
On the last part, close to the frame means close to the seat tube. I followed his directions and cut my brake cable too short and now I have to buy a new brake cable. Don't cut your brake cable before you measure it together with the straddle cable so that it reaches your brake caliper .
Well that’s pretty self explanatory if you have ever looked at your bike brakes and payed attention to how they work. Obviously you use the second cable to go into the straddle and under the original brake cable that goes to the handle and then use both of those top hats at the end of the other short double sided cable to connect them, you’ll have to keep your brake cable pulled out constantly or this will happen as well you won’t realize it moved forward and will cut it too small
I'm currently looking to swap out my front U Brake for the Springfield Brake. Aside from a slimmer side profile, my bike came with the Springfield on the rear end. When adjusted correctly, the rear works pretty well.
Awesome Vincent. I wasn't sure if you could do dual cables with the springfield and if the one spring made enough return tension. That good to know. Thanks for sharing.
@@pine51 What for ?! If you have a hitmain frame and the mafia bullet mod you don't need anything else. On other frames you better use Odsy's London Mod and screw it on the brake mount.
Great video! The information is very close to what I am looking for, but it wasn't an exact match for my situation. I have a question about a 2008 Haro F2 frame and the brake posts on that frame. There are small holes in the frame (near to each of the brake mount posts). The holes look like they are for a set screw to hold the brake mount posts in place, but I have tried various sizes of hex wrenches and couldn't engage to loosen any (possible) set screw. Can anyone point me to information on this style of brake mount posts? Are they removable? If so, how? Are there any videos anyone could recommend to help me understand the issue? Any help would be greatly appreciated (from the author of the video, or anyone else reading this). Thanks!
Jake and I just watched it. We would have messed it up. Lol. My favorite parts of your video tho, are when you say stuff like “cable tie adjuster...thing”. Haha
This was the first time I put brakes on a bike with non-threaded brake posts. It took me a couple tries to figure it out. I should release an outtake video. As for "the straddle cable holder thing", I've put hundreds of them on bikes...and never knew what they were called. Haha
If your U-brake post thread into your frame, Then you don't need the big bolts. If the u-brake mounts sit on it like the Mafia frame, then the brake mount kit should have come with the big bolts.
Great vid. My issue is the straddle cable mount sometimes slips when doing brake tricks and pulling lever hard. And advice? Is it literally a case of trying to tighten it more? (I do try and crank it down pretty hard)
They are pretty easy to set up. I like regular coil spring U-brakes. I feel i have much more adjustablity when troubleshooting problems with coil springs
ok im scared to cut the big piece of cable incase i do it wrong. i have a We The People Volta 2010 and had to buy universal brake mount kit and brake lever and cable. my frame has 2 mount holes on it where as ur one had 1, plus the zip tie. im not adding gyro or front brake. i wish the cable was already the right size for the job, i also wish they didnt have different brake mounts for all frames.
If you look at my video of the assembly of my WTP Trust, th-cam.com/video/-NIwxYwntXM/w-d-xo.html , You can see the housing is ran to the last frame mount. yours should be similar.
@@younggotti8195 It should fit. I think this frame has nonthreaded removable brake post like the hitmain frame. Just make sure you put the brake on the mount before you put the bolt through. Other than that, i have no idea. I hope this helps. If it doesn't, you should send an email to kink. You might have a bad brake mount kit.
@@thebasementbikeshop2336 I contacted them, I ended up using grease and a rubber mallet haha, they went in, but are crooked so I have to play with them a bit so the mount sits on the frame flush
Muy bueno, si me sirvió, mi palanca está muy floja, no regresa a su lugar completamente, se queda a la mitad, hay alguna forma de arreglarlo? Alguien que me ayude!
You should be able to tighten it down all the way and still have it move freely. if there is excess paint on your post, it might make the arm not move. you can try sanding or filing it down like in my brake trouble shooting video- th-cam.com/video/yJ3wPvJSBes/w-d-xo.html If that doesn't work, you could put locktite on the threads and not tighten it down all the way. I hope this helps.
Well after finally finding mounts that fit my frame I’ve installed everything to your exact specifications only issue being when I release my brake leaver the brakes don’t want to spring back so the pads stay slightly touching the rim do you know why this is? I’ve greased the mounts thoroughly can’t think why the brakes are not moving freely, I’ve also used washer on the top
It's one of 3 things. Your springs don't have enough tension. Your cable is not sliding threw the housing smooth enough or the brakes are binding a little on the post. Are you using the Springfield brakes or a different ubrake?
@@liampartridge5165 i don't think you can on the Springfield. You could take the brakes of the post and sand the post with some sandpaper to make sure there is no binding. Or disconnect the cable and see if brakes returned all the way. If they do, it might be a cable. issue
Sorry to bring up an old video but did you have any issues with the 990 mounts? I greased them up and bolted them down. Not even 5 minutes later, they binded up. I can't even move the arms anymore.
When adjusting the brake pads, the left brake pad touches the rim while the right brake pad does not touch the rim having a few millimeters of space . How can I fix this?
Yeah that's one thing that sucks about these brakes is the lack adjustability. You can try and center the straddle cable more in the center of the triangle thing. If that works you can kink the straddle cable a little so it doesn't slide back to the old position. If that doesnt work, try removing the arm and cleaning or sanding the post. Hope this helps
True. You don’t NEED to. But, it looks cleaner. What I did is leave about two cable ends worth of it and put the cable end on and crimp. In my mind it’s just cleaner and has a bit left in case I can adjust in the future if needed 🤷🏼♂️
@@jcobra09 You have it the wrong way round. The straddle cable is there to be used, which looks way cleaner than a bigger cable lug with extra wire sticking out. The cable lug is there to be used later on if the straddle cable goes to pot. The straddle cable is the perfect size & doesn't need crimping. I feel for the guy that ruined his set up, obviously cut the cable too short.
I’m glad you posted this. I wrestled with these brakes for three days. My main hang up was the brake mounts because the ones on my Framed Judgement were a smidge too big. I ended up sanding them down and finally getting them to fit. It was the first time I’ve put all new brakes on any bike so it was a learning experience. Thank you for posting up such good tutorials. I probably watched this video 35 times lol
best bmx instructional videos i've seen yet. good job
Thank you very much!
This is the most professional bike maintenance video I have ever soon! Thanks
Oh my god thank you for making this video bro. I could not find a single video on Mafiabikes brake jobs. At least not ones that look like my kush 2. Your bike has the same type of brake setup and frame though. I was wanting to put this same rear brake on my bike but wasn’t sure where to start. Still pretty new to this whole working on bikes thing. But I’m trying ! 😂
Too funny, me too. Been all why these u brakes different!? and this video was perfect.
@@Amalgamotionhe’s the goat. But yeah I’ve had the same reaction at pretty much every mafia part I’ve worked on so far besides …… idk 🤷 😂 I dropped my bike the other day and the brake bent barely I dropped it from hip height and it broke the tension spring or whatever holds tension so careful of that! If you hear a Loud click, just stop, don’t waste two hours like me, you broke that set 😂
Hey bud can you do video about bmx front brakes set up but with gyro back brakes
Thanks man! Been a while. Never mounted fully from a brakeless frame. Made it much easier on me. Running Springfields on a Sunday EX frame build. Not sure the year of the frame but Source sent me 3 different brake mount kits after getting the brakes through them. They finally sent me a link to Stolenbikes, a Type-D mount kit. Stolen sent me a note saying I’d have to sand the mounts down a tad to fit Odyssey brakes, 😅 well I made it here. Finally at the end. We’ll see how she goes after this.
I digress. I don’t understand the issue with these brakes. Before even hooking up the cable, pushing the brake arms in by hand I cannot get both pads to touch the rim before they start to bind-up together near the spring. I thought with the newer removable type brake setup I’d be able to swap back and forth depending on the park/street/trails. God I’m frustrated.
Great videos. Really informative, easy to follow and implement. Thanks man.
On the last part, close to the frame means close to the seat tube. I followed his directions and cut my brake cable too short and now I have to buy a new brake cable. Don't cut your brake cable before you measure it together with the straddle cable so that it reaches your brake caliper .
I did the same thing
Well that’s pretty self explanatory if you have ever looked at your bike brakes and payed attention to how they work. Obviously you use the second cable to go into the straddle and under the original brake cable that goes to the handle and then use both of those top hats at the end of the other short double sided cable to connect them, you’ll have to keep your brake cable pulled out constantly or this will happen as well you won’t realize it moved forward and will cut it too small
I'm currently looking to swap out my front U Brake for the Springfield Brake. Aside from a slimmer side profile, my bike came with the Springfield on the rear end. When adjusted correctly, the rear works pretty well.
Thanks bro! Helped so much I appreciate it man
You just made me want them brakes now👍👍👍
Got the bullet mod for two cables combined with the springfield brake - works perfectly!
Awesome Vincent. I wasn't sure if you could do dual cables with the springfield and if the one spring made enough return tension. That good to know. Thanks for sharing.
Hey whats the purpose of the bullet mod?
@@pine51 You run dual rotor cables in a perfect and proper way. Same like the Odyssey London Mod but even cleaner.
Wonder if i can just drill and tap a hole hmmm
@@pine51 What for ?! If you have a hitmain frame and the mafia bullet mod you don't need anything else. On other frames you better use Odsy's London Mod and screw it on the brake mount.
Great video! The information is very close to what I am looking for, but it wasn't an exact match for my situation.
I have a question about a 2008 Haro F2 frame and the brake posts on that frame.
There are small holes in the frame (near to each of the brake mount posts). The holes look like they are for a set screw to hold the brake mount posts in place, but I have tried various sizes of hex wrenches and couldn't engage to loosen any (possible) set screw.
Can anyone point me to information on this style of brake mount posts? Are they removable? If so, how? Are there any videos anyone could recommend to help me understand the issue?
Any help would be greatly appreciated (from the author of the video, or anyone else reading this). Thanks!
Awesome work bro
Hi, what can i do if one side is near and one is far from the wheel? The break was installed because it's a new bike
Jake and I just watched it. We would have messed it up. Lol. My favorite parts of your video tho, are when you say stuff like “cable tie adjuster...thing”. Haha
This was the first time I put brakes on a bike with non-threaded brake posts. It took me a couple tries to figure it out. I should release an outtake video.
As for "the straddle cable holder thing", I've put hundreds of them on bikes...and never knew what they were called. Haha
Omg thank you so much also if you flip the lever does it matter
Keep up the good work.
Thanks for the video! Very helpful, and I like how you get straight to the point.
I have a sunday blueprint. Does anyone know if i need the mounts or not? Thanks
My rear brake pads are not centered. Do you know what step I messed up if that is the problem?
What size r the bolts what come with it is it m6 or m8
Did you end up buying the brake kit? If so we’re you able to find out if they were m8 or m6?
So will this work on a bike with threaded brake posts that are welded onto the frame the bike is a mongoose legion l60
Yes. The springfield brake should work on your bike. Just put them on your post and and use the bolts that come with the brakes.
@@thebasementbikeshop2336 ok thank you
how to install front odyssey brakes? thx
u- brakes or a side pull?
@@thebasementbikeshop2336 U-Brakes from Odyssey Springfield
Well I don’t have big bolts 2:00 anyone help?
If your U-brake post thread into your frame, Then you don't need the big bolts. If the u-brake mounts sit on it like the Mafia frame, then the brake mount kit should have come with the big bolts.
Great vid. My issue is the straddle cable mount sometimes slips when doing brake tricks and pulling lever hard. And advice? Is it literally a case of trying to tighten it more? (I do try and crank it down pretty hard)
I need the adjustable straddle cable stop bolt thing that goes in the brake arm.
Im considering these for an old school bmx restoration. Will these work on it and how good are these brakes?
They are pretty easy to set up. I like regular coil spring U-brakes. I feel i have much more adjustablity when troubleshooting problems with coil springs
Do they work in water
ok im scared to cut the big piece of cable incase i do it wrong. i have a We The People Volta 2010 and had to buy universal brake mount kit and brake lever and cable. my frame has 2 mount holes on it where as ur one had 1, plus the zip tie. im not adding gyro or front brake. i wish the cable was already the right size for the job, i also wish they didnt have different brake mounts for all frames.
If you look at my video of the assembly of my WTP Trust, th-cam.com/video/-NIwxYwntXM/w-d-xo.html , You can see the housing is ran to the last frame mount. yours should be similar.
Are the brake mounts m10 or m8?
What brand is your BMX frame?
Thanks 🙏🏽 for the video! Helped me out
It looks like I’m missing some bits.. everything you fitted in this video included in the kit ? I’m struggling ! Help!
There is a mafia bikes brake mount kit and the odyssey Springfield kit that i installed. Why what are you missing?
I seem to be missing the straddle cable too, can you help with this? Not sure if I’ve missed it if you made your own or...
@@liamscott456 i did get one but purposely cut it to show you can make your own with a normal cable and a cable stop or a narp.
Very helpful thank you
The brake mounts that came with my frame doesnt fit into the break arms, any suggestions?
That's really weird. What kind of frame and brakes are you using?
@@thebasementbikeshop2336 kink broadway and odyssey springfield
@@younggotti8195 It should fit. I think this frame has nonthreaded removable brake post like the hitmain frame. Just make sure you put the brake on the mount before you put the bolt through. Other than that, i have no idea. I hope this helps. If it doesn't, you should send an email to kink. You might have a bad brake mount kit.
@@thebasementbikeshop2336 I contacted them, I ended up using grease and a rubber mallet haha, they went in, but are crooked so I have to play with them a bit so the mount sits on the frame flush
Muy bueno, si me sirvió, mi palanca está muy floja, no regresa a su lugar completamente, se queda a la mitad, hay alguna forma de arreglarlo?
Alguien que me ayude!
is this a m8 1.25? size
What size tire do you have on the back? I wanna know what is the biggest size tire i can run with the spring field brakes!
I run 2.45 Primo Churchills without any problems. Seems they could even be 2.50s !! ;)
When I tighten the bolts that come with the brakes, it doesn’t allow the brakes to move freely. Do I keep them just loose enough to move?
You should be able to tighten it down all the way and still have it move freely. if there is excess paint on your post, it might make the arm not move. you can try sanding or filing it down like in my brake trouble shooting video- th-cam.com/video/yJ3wPvJSBes/w-d-xo.html If that doesn't work, you could put locktite on the threads and not tighten it down all the way. I hope this helps.
Well after finally finding mounts that fit my frame I’ve installed everything to your exact specifications only issue being when I release my brake leaver the brakes don’t want to spring back so the pads stay slightly touching the rim do you know why this is? I’ve greased the mounts thoroughly can’t think why the brakes are not moving freely, I’ve also used washer on the top
It's one of 3 things. Your springs don't have enough tension. Your cable is not sliding threw the housing smooth enough or the brakes are binding a little on the post. Are you using the Springfield brakes or a different ubrake?
The Basement Bike Shop I’m definitely using the Springfield brake how do you adjust the tension on the spring?
@@liampartridge5165 i don't think you can on the Springfield. You could take the brakes of the post and sand the post with some sandpaper to make sure there is no binding. Or disconnect the cable and see if brakes returned all the way. If they do, it might be a cable. issue
What type of bike is this?
Mafiabikes Hitmain
@@thebasementbikeshop2336 oh ok
i bought the pink ones i think there weaker because the ears broke so fast :(
Sorry to bring up an old video but did you have any issues with the 990 mounts? I greased them up and bolted them down. Not even 5 minutes later, they binded up. I can't even move the arms anymore.
No Problem. What Kind of brakes are you trying to mount? Also, Did you watch the video on Adjusting springs- th-cam.com/video/VJNMGuWXX0c/w-d-xo.html
where can i find a brake mount
What kind of bike/frame do you have?
Huge help! Thank you so much!
nice bike. what are the brakes like ?
Very nice. Smooth pull and spring back. Plus, they are very easy to set up.
@@thebasementbikeshop2336 thanks
Big help, thanks
What's a zipstrip
A zip tie
Just got my kit in today. Do I need the barrel adjuster you added? If so what size is it?
Usually on the frame, it is a 6mm barrel adjusters and on the lever, it is a 7mm barrel adjuster
Bikes a beaut thanks so much
When adjusting the brake pads, the left brake pad touches the rim while the right brake pad does not touch the rim having a few millimeters of space . How can I fix this?
Yeah that's one thing that sucks about these brakes is the lack adjustability. You can try and center the straddle cable more in the center of the triangle thing. If that works you can kink the straddle cable a little so it doesn't slide back to the old position. If that doesnt work, try removing the arm and cleaning or sanding the post. Hope this helps
You dont need to cut the strattle cable, I did it and messed my bike up
True. You don’t NEED to. But, it looks cleaner. What I did is leave about two cable ends worth of it and put the cable end on and crimp. In my mind it’s just cleaner and has a bit left in case I can adjust in the future if needed 🤷🏼♂️
@@jcobra09 You have it the wrong way round. The straddle cable is there to be used, which looks way cleaner than a bigger cable lug with extra wire sticking out. The cable lug is there to be used later on if the straddle cable goes to pot. The straddle cable is the perfect size & doesn't need crimping.
I feel for the guy that ruined his set up, obviously cut the cable too short.
I never got a straddle cable with my set is that normal?
Not if it was an Odyssey Springfield
I would have messed up if I haven’t watched the w
Thanks, big help 👍
Your not teaching people to lube the brake posts
If you have to remove your grips to change your brake lever : then that brake Lever is Trash and not made for BMX 😂❤
Русские есть?
These brakes are garbage. Came on my odyssey complete and they're jiggly pieces of crap.
Very hard to see when your hands are in the way
@Chad Kunka fuck off
Do they work in water