Hi Mr. Tumbo! Thanks So Much For Another Amazing DPS Showdown! I Loved Seeing Dr. Ratio, Member Of The Genius Society, Battle It Out With Fei Xiao, Legendary Warrior And General Of The Xianzhou Zhu Ming. Truly An Enlightening Experience. I Look Forward To Your Next Video.
If Dr. Ratio has a million fans, then I am one of them. If Dr. Ratio has ten fans, then I am one of them. If Dr. Ratio has only one fan then that is me. If Dr. Ratio has no fans, then that means I am no longer on earth. If the world is against Dr. Ratio, then I am against the world.
As the queen of follow up Hunt DPS characters activated her domain, Dr. Ratio shrunk back in fear. “Stand proud. You’re strong” said Feixiao. Dr. Ratio began to use his cursed technique, Wiseman’s Folly. Aventurine used Hollow Wicker Basket, and said, “Throughout follow up teams and the path of preservation, I alone am the best sustained one.”
Hey, Artumbo, quick explanation about the strange lack of Numby Advancement! In Numby's description, there's an often overlooked clause that never really mattered much when she was first released, but is now incredibly important to know when playing her with Feixiao, which reads as follows: "The action Advance Forward effect cannot be triggered during Numby's own turn." Most players read this and rightly assume that this is to prevent Numby from Action Advancing themself, but it also has an unfortunate side effect due to what Honkai Star Rail constitutes as "A turn". Long story short, once Numby takes action, it is considered "Numby's turn" until another character (ally or enemy) starts their turn. That means any follow-ups that Numby's attack itself triggers, such as Feixiao Talent/Aventurine Talent/Moze Talent, will not advance Numby, because they will occur in the space between Numby's attack and the next turn, when Numby will be able to benefit from Action advance again. This clause ALSO applies to all attacks that occur during Numby's Ultimate State after Numby Attacks, but before another character starts their turn- including Aventurine's Ultimate, in this video. Judging by Numby's place in the action order at the beginning of the cycle, Numby must've gotten the killing blow at the end of the first wave, and Honkai Star Rail turns DO IN FACT carry over between waves, therefore Aventurine's Ultimate wave used in between Numby's last turn in the last wave and the first turn in the second wave, preventing him from being advanced! It's a strange mechanic, one I think makes Feixiao's team interesting to play, seeing as you can interpose Feixiao's Ultimate at opportune times to advance Numby and manipulate when Numby takes their turn. If not paid attention to, you can lose upwards to 2-3 Numby attacks in a fight, which is 1.5 stacks on Feixiao, and could make a serious difference in clear speed!
First off, thank you for taking the time to write out the explanation! Really appreciate it and it definitely makes sense now that I'm looking back on it. Numby did in fact deal the killing blow and when the new phase started and Aventurine hit Kafka with his follow-up attack, Numby wouldn't advance because of the restriction that you mentioned where he can't advance on his own turn. And I agree, it's VERY interesting. I think there's still a lot to explore with min maxing Numby advances. In this case, it could've been optimal to not pop Aventurine's ult right away to squeeze out that one extra advance - and it has a cascading effect like you said: 3 missed Numby attacks can be 1.5 stacks on Feixiao, and it's also missed damage (toughness too), Concerto procs and energy for Robin, Aventurine stacks, and so on.
@@skennylegend1835 I can try? Ahem... After Star Pig spins on enemy, Star Pig gets tired, and falls on butt. Star Pig stays on butt and does not move until other teammate or enemy starts to move, which startles Star Pig, and then Star Pig can move again. Apologies, I haven't played Genshin in AGES, my memory of Razor's broken english is faulty at best.
For a unit given for free months ago, Ratio ages like fine wine. Feixiao is bound to outperform him as she IS the newer and shinier 5*, but not by much. Dr. Ratio truly L+Ratio-ed the Genshin shills claiming he's just another Aloy.
Just as I thought theres barely a difference. Thanks for the video, I wasnt 100% sure if skipping her is a big mistake but now Im pretty much sure its not, I handeled the new AS with my Ratio to 12 stars no problem too so Im fine
The difference is pretty big. Ratio had 2 chalks left that were hitting for 19% of Kafka's HP so ~38% overkill. But Feixiao didn't even get out of concerto, her entire team had 2 full attacks left. She probably could've 0 cycled that stage even if you doubled the number of Kafkas and Reavers.
The fact that ratio can keep up with games content even after top tier dps present in game just shows that giving him for free was one of greatest hoyo blessings 😊
Getting ratio'd in a comment thread about the crit ratio Dr Ratio has would be a bit cruel, friends. So for reference the original comment is a joke about how talking about Ratio's crit ratio sounds like a dad joke, i.e a pun.
Topaz eidolons help ratio so much for the 100% chance, for the dmg comparison dont change much, but without the debuffs missing the Ratio FuA hurts so much
this is my exact problem with ratio if u only have an e0s0 topaz the follow up is so inconsistent, aventurine helps too if u have his lc or trend of universal market(rng), but for most f2p like me its better to just pull for new characters
@@TheoDimitry moze is great and honestly a pretty ideal teammate for him (only being slightly behind an e0 topaz if he's e2) since he has 2 innate debuffs in his kit :)
exactly what @faizahza8003 said! i feel like because feixiao and dr ratio arent using their sigs, the supports shouldnt either (tho nothing can be done about the support eidolons)
Completely off topic...i wanna see the king of physical break of today vs the king of physical break in history...luka vs boothill. Why? A better question would be why not? Great showdown as always, ofc. Also, It'd be interesting to see og dan vs feixiao as well...cause I've seen less-emo sasuke drop nukes on people's foreheads before and i wonder how he fairs now vs a direct 1 : 1 unit in path and element. Keep up the good work.
thank you! :) and those are cool ideas - ive been thinking of bringing in luka sometime in the future cause he's definitely gotten a lot better over time as well and i feel he's very underrated
@artumbo awesome man. Ye, luka for sure is super underrated and I feel he's kinda future proof as long as there are physical weak enemies to break...I've even seen em literally one shot just like boothill on cn if he breaks with an enhanced basic to immediately trigger the dot. A powerhouse for a 4 star for sure.
As chalk rubs and cracks... The debuffs roar in damage... Concerto to sustain,Aventurine of Stratagems... Domain Expansion: Wiseman's folly,Cogito Ergo Sum.
I knew Ratio was strong, but I didn't expect it to be as close as it was; thought Feixiao would absolutely annihilate Ratio when it comes to this- well, I suppose Feixiao definitely was clearly better, just not as big of a difference as I expected. Anyways, in our hearts we all know that Luocha will always be the best girl (and speaking of abundance, we need a comparison between Gallagher and Lingsha when she comes out).
@@discreaminanthot deym 3854AV is much more than 3815AV huh. so 39AV which is literally like half a turn worth of AV is a lot huh. I mean it's true that Feixiao is noticeably better than Ratio but... Yeah just yeah. It's like saying you scored much higher than your classmate that had 98 points while you have 100.
I'm a Ratio main but I still got Feixiao. Moze E4 was to good to skip and even with both sharing their best teams (I have Robin and Aventurine), I don't have any other DPS in my account and Love the Follow Up Archetype (I have Jade, Herta and Xueyi built just bcs of FUA).
aventurine will make it so it becomes almost impossible to die but robin will give crazy amp to any team you put her in id still recommend robin tho overall since there are good alternatives for aven, while none can really do what robin does
Genshin Devs and HSR Devs don't talk to each other. Then there's the ZZZ Devs who copy homework, and listen to their community. PS. I was confused by your Fei damage until I went back and saw Topaz and Robin. You have a little more CD than me, and a little less ATK, but I'm using her recommended set, but your Fei is hitting like an absolute freight train by comparison. I'm definitely hoping to snag Robin E1 before she leaves, but it took all I had just to get Fei and Robin in the first place...
Can anybody tell me the song at the 8:38 Dr. Ratio Phase 1? Its HSR OST but I don't know the which one. Cool video btw. EDIT: NVM found it its Streets Abuzz Variation Luminary Wardance
I think what makes Feixiao better than Ratio is that Feixiao synergizes perfectly with the FUA team core (Topaz, Robin, Aventurine), while Ratio doesn't. Ratio needs at least 5 debuffs on the enemy to deal full damage. Ratio applies 1 himself, Topaz applies only 1, Aventurine aplies 1 with his ult, but it has terrible uptime, and Robin applies none. Best case scenario you'll have 3 debuffs on the enemy, which is not enough for Ratio to deal full damage, and most of the time you'll have only 2. If you were to take out either Topaz or Robin to place a debuffer, you'll take a MASSIVE dps loss, because even Silver Wolf, the best debuffer in the game, is nowhere near as good as them at amplifying Ratio's damage. Should Hoyo release a debuffer that is as good as Robin, with lots of different debuffs, then Ratio would be pretty much equal to Feixiao, if not better.
The problem with ratio is that he is expensive I mean my ratio is rank #50 in seeleland but in action he sucks(i can't reach 100k with fua) cuz he is f2p and i don't have sw,topaz or robin
Well i have to pull for robin im on the edge right now deciding to skip feixiao or not........?? If i pull robin now then i have to save until Feixiao Reruns to e2 s1 her while getting Acheron's lc and Aventurine
that's quite the list of things to get 😳 if you really like feixiao id highly recommend getting her but if you're looking for pure strength robin takes priority hope this helps! :)
duran is bis for both but my salsotto pieces for ratio were cracked and actually i just didnt even have an attack or imaginary orb on duran at the time :')
duran is definitely the better set for him, but my salsotto quality is much higher than my duran (dont have a single usable atk/imaginary orb on it) so it ends up being his best option on my account!
or if you barely have any fua units like me, (i only have robin) then feixiao completely overshadows ratio. went from a 3-4 cycle with ratio to a comfy 1 cycle with feixiao in current moc first side.
@@Ah-wz6nn You're using Ratio wrong then. He doesn't need fua units. Debuffers like Pela, Silverwolf or Jiaoqiu + a harmony like Sparkle or Bronya give him all he needs. And E2 Moze is a cheap fua unit for him that has as many debuffs for Ratio as E1S1 Topaz
@@BananaCake26 no sparkle + jiaoqiu + silverwolf + didnt build gui + moze didn't exist yet + used bronya on side 2. best i could do was ratio + pela + ty + hh, relying on ult fua procs with ty and hh energy battery. Replacing either ty or pela with robin in that team didn't help much either. meanwhile feixiao robin march gall/hh got me 1 cycling with a lot of room to spare. might've even been a 0 cyc if i had feixiao lc and e6'd march. point is even though at their best feixiao is only a little stronger than ratio, she's much more flexible than him and performs exceptionally better in an f2p scenario
Oh cool, another E2 Aventurine haver. Most ppl either busted (E0) or took em all (E6). See what I did there. I opted for E2 for my E6 Ach and didn’t go any further as E4/6 only benefits himself not the team.
I like Ratio’s design and personality more but Feixiao is really fun to use (and debuffs are annoying to keep up) so I’ve been using Feixiao lately. I haven’t abandoned my Ratio, I’m just giving him a bit of a break 💔🥲
i usually add some more vibrance, increase sharpness and tone down the film grain during editing i know you're asking for hsr but i made a video a while ago showing how you can adjust your visuals using nvidia filters (can do it with amd as well) - let me know if you're able to access the link: th-cam.com/video/bWpoj87czzQ/w-d-xo.html i recommend playing around with the filters since they'll have a completely different effect in genshin compared to hsr but overall they make the game look a lot more lively and crisp
I managed to 0c MoC 12 without a lightcone on Feixiao and she still did more damage than Aventurine and Topaz combined(my Topaz is top1% on Seeleland for E0S1) i used E1 Robin tho, but still a lcless clear for a crit dps. I might upload it tomorrow.
how they both still compete, and with many FUA charas that feixiao bring along, we can still use both of them in different sides. How moze can be an option for ratio team if you dont have topaz sign or e1. Maybe just they try to take over each other robin & aven lmao
it'll be a fight for robin/aven haha but yeah im pretty happy with moze cause he unlocks ratio for a LOT of players who were lacking a debuff type support and he's almost on par with e0 topaz (if he's got his e2) great 4 star overall :)
if were at a point where were comparing these two, then dr ratio wins by the mere fact that hes free LOL (i am salty i lost 50/50 on feixiao banner cryge)
I don't know...I just pull for fun and got her but during my testing I found out that feixiao without her LC and Robin does trash damage,my ratio still does better..
i get where you're coming from but i'd say the only real advantage is he's getting is slightly more dmg% from his a6 trace (10% per debuff, which translates to a ~3.3% increase in actual damage per stack after 3 and capping at 5 for a ~6.6% increase) definitely not an inconsequential increase from having additional debuffs but also not gamechanging :)
I think Feixiao is better than Ratio in term of investment need because even with Moze you can sometimes not get his fua and with Topaz you need at least e0s1 or e1s1 to guarantee it
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Hi Mr. Tumbo! Thanks So Much For Another Amazing DPS Showdown! I Loved Seeing Dr. Ratio, Member Of The Genius Society, Battle It Out With Fei Xiao, Legendary Warrior And General Of The Xianzhou Zhu Ming. Truly An Enlightening Experience. I Look Forward To Your Next Video.
lacky she's the general of the xianzhou yaoqing
never change lacky
well said mr reginald
yes king speak your truth 😝😝❤️❤️❤️
Lacky 😭
my two wives going head to head who has the better abs
ratio clears
@@artumbo not as lickable also she clears in the armpit department
Loomie licking
@@artumbogeniuses think alike
If Dr. Ratio has a million fans, then I am one of them.
If Dr. Ratio has ten fans, then I am one of them.
If Dr. Ratio has only one fan then that is me.
If Dr. Ratio has no fans, then that means I am no longer on earth.
If the world is against Dr. Ratio, then I am against the world.
topaz
But the world is against star platinum
@@artumbo exactly topaz got a fat ass
@@dodedirga13THIS IS MY 5TH JOJO REFERENCE IVE SEEN TODAY😭
Do not worry my guy, you are not alone!
As the queen of follow up Hunt DPS characters activated her domain, Dr. Ratio shrunk back in fear. “Stand proud. You’re strong” said Feixiao. Dr. Ratio began to use his cursed technique, Wiseman’s Folly. Aventurine used Hollow Wicker Basket, and said, “Throughout follow up teams and the path of preservation, I alone am the best sustained one.”
i am both amazed and concerned
Ijbool
@@Songbird905so true king speak your truth
Absolute cinema 🙌
Dawg 😭
but who uses the bathtub better
😳
Feixiao is too good for the bathtub. She washes up quickly and saves resources
Me with Dr. Ratio
I think Feixiao showers not baths
Anyway what's better showers or baths?
Showers but im a dr ratio fan@meike6725
I feel like E1 Robin violates at least 7 geneva conventions
There was only one geneva convention, you probably meant laws of war.
got her E1 this rerun but lost for E2
@zannax351 that's a wild sentence LOOL
@@shazamnegroid7379 thanks for the clarification
Just looked up what it does. Thats actually vile. Like genuinely disgusting.
Feixiao might be strong and fast but doctor is HUGEEE~~ 😉
the most important part 😏
Hey, Artumbo, quick explanation about the strange lack of Numby Advancement! In Numby's description, there's an often overlooked clause that never really mattered much when she was first released, but is now incredibly important to know when playing her with Feixiao, which reads as follows: "The action Advance Forward effect cannot be triggered during Numby's own turn." Most players read this and rightly assume that this is to prevent Numby from Action Advancing themself, but it also has an unfortunate side effect due to what Honkai Star Rail constitutes as "A turn". Long story short, once Numby takes action, it is considered "Numby's turn" until another character (ally or enemy) starts their turn. That means any follow-ups that Numby's attack itself triggers, such as Feixiao Talent/Aventurine Talent/Moze Talent, will not advance Numby, because they will occur in the space between Numby's attack and the next turn, when Numby will be able to benefit from Action advance again. This clause ALSO applies to all attacks that occur during Numby's Ultimate State after Numby Attacks, but before another character starts their turn- including Aventurine's Ultimate, in this video. Judging by Numby's place in the action order at the beginning of the cycle, Numby must've gotten the killing blow at the end of the first wave, and Honkai Star Rail turns DO IN FACT carry over between waves, therefore Aventurine's Ultimate wave used in between Numby's last turn in the last wave and the first turn in the second wave, preventing him from being advanced!
It's a strange mechanic, one I think makes Feixiao's team interesting to play, seeing as you can interpose Feixiao's Ultimate at opportune times to advance Numby and manipulate when Numby takes their turn. If not paid attention to, you can lose upwards to 2-3 Numby attacks in a fight, which is 1.5 stacks on Feixiao, and could make a serious difference in clear speed!
First off, thank you for taking the time to write out the explanation! Really appreciate it and it definitely makes sense now that I'm looking back on it. Numby did in fact deal the killing blow and when the new phase started and Aventurine hit Kafka with his follow-up attack, Numby wouldn't advance because of the restriction that you mentioned where he can't advance on his own turn.
And I agree, it's VERY interesting. I think there's still a lot to explore with min maxing Numby advances. In this case, it could've been optimal to not pop Aventurine's ult right away to squeeze out that one extra advance - and it has a cascading effect like you said: 3 missed Numby attacks can be 1.5 stacks on Feixiao, and it's also missed damage (toughness too), Concerto procs and energy for Robin, Aventurine stacks, and so on.
Ohh so that's why my numby sometimes doesnt advance at all after i hit the enemies with multiple attacks. Thats really helpful to know
Wait idgi can you explain in Razor terms?
Interesting to know cause that means even more lost for me with e2 fei. Thanks dor that clarification on numby.
@@skennylegend1835 I can try? Ahem... After Star Pig spins on enemy, Star Pig gets tired, and falls on butt. Star Pig stays on butt and does not move until other teammate or enemy starts to move, which startles Star Pig, and then Star Pig can move again.
Apologies, I haven't played Genshin in AGES, my memory of Razor's broken english is faulty at best.
For a unit given for free months ago, Ratio ages like fine wine. Feixiao is bound to outperform him as she IS the newer and shinier 5*, but not by much.
Dr. Ratio truly L+Ratio-ed the Genshin shills claiming he's just another Aloy.
she outdoes him by a lot☠️
@@xIem0n3854 points vs 3815 points
"A lot" 🤡
free ratio was one of the best things to happen in hsr :)
She absolutely destroyed ratio; artumbo’s team set up is what’s carrying ratio. Not to mention the E1 robin lol
@@DragonSlayer79513 bruh, didn't Feixiao also use the same team Ratio did? Ya know, including the Robin E1? What's your point here?
Just as I thought theres barely a difference. Thanks for the video, I wasnt 100% sure if skipping her is a big mistake but now Im pretty much sure its not, I handeled the new AS with my Ratio to 12 stars no problem too so Im fine
glad i could help! ratio's still got it :)
The difference is pretty big. Ratio had 2 chalks left that were hitting for 19% of Kafka's HP so ~38% overkill. But Feixiao didn't even get out of concerto, her entire team had 2 full attacks left. She probably could've 0 cycled that stage even if you doubled the number of Kafkas and Reavers.
The fact that ratio can keep up with games content even after top tier dps present in game just shows that giving him for free was one of greatest hoyo blessings 😊
glad we got him! he's amazing :)
RRAT Should be DART because personally i think its better and its Dr. Ratio and not ratio
Damn, the editing was peak, keep the good work
thank you so much! will do 🫡
I always forget Artumbo is so good at transition I didn't even notice it everytime I watch this guy😂
the biggest thing i've learned is that the "v" key is for auto play, brain in the vat feixiao had my hand cramping spaming space bar fr
glad i could help haha
if you ever feel the need to, "b" toggles combat speed though i think most of us will never switch back from 2x
"Dr ratio has an astounding 81 crit ratio" you my sir are definitley going to be a great father..
is this a sign im getting oldge 😭
@@artumbo go back to sleep grandpa
huh? didn't he say 80-190 crit ratio? i dont see the issue
@@theconman6505 my friend, you dont get the joke do you.
Getting ratio'd in a comment thread about the crit ratio Dr Ratio has would be a bit cruel, friends.
So for reference the original comment is a joke about how talking about Ratio's crit ratio sounds like a dad joke, i.e a pun.
Topaz eidolons help ratio so much for the 100% chance, for the dmg comparison dont change much, but without the debuffs missing the Ratio FuA hurts so much
oh 100%, i tried ratio with some other teammates like march and it's just not the same without guaranteeing his follow-up
@@artumbo same , I had to rely on aventurine's debuff if I use march hunt
this is my exact problem with ratio if u only have an e0s0 topaz the follow up is so inconsistent, aventurine helps too if u have his lc or trend of universal market(rng), but for most f2p like me its better to just pull for new characters
@@artumbowhat about moze?
@@TheoDimitry moze is great and honestly a pretty ideal teammate for him (only being slightly behind an e0 topaz if he's e2) since he has 2 innate debuffs in his kit :)
14:19 kafkas neck on her followup what 😭
Personally I think it’s fine to have investment on supports I.e. eidolons or signature weapons if they share the same supports.
I guess it's because he is afraid of it to be so overkill that we cannot see the true potential of the character
exactly what @faizahza8003 said! i feel like because feixiao and dr ratio arent using their sigs, the supports shouldnt either (tho nothing can be done about the support eidolons)
Mr chalk yeeter will never be irrelevent
our favorite doctor
fun fact on pc you can just click spacebar and feixiao choses weapon by herself in ult
that's right!
The transitions are soooooo smooth!
thank youuuu!
this showdown was so fun to watch!
glad you enjoyed it 😊
Completely off topic...i wanna see the king of physical break of today vs the king of physical break in history...luka vs boothill. Why? A better question would be why not?
Great showdown as always, ofc. Also, It'd be interesting to see og dan vs feixiao as well...cause I've seen less-emo sasuke drop nukes on people's foreheads before and i wonder how he fairs now vs a direct 1 : 1 unit in path and element. Keep up the good work.
thank you! :)
and those are cool ideas - ive been thinking of bringing in luka sometime in the future cause he's definitely gotten a lot better over time as well and i feel he's very underrated
@artumbo awesome man. Ye, luka for sure is super underrated and I feel he's kinda future proof as long as there are physical weak enemies to break...I've even seen em literally one shot just like boothill on cn if he breaks with an enhanced basic to immediately trigger the dot. A powerhouse for a 4 star for sure.
I like the words that are being said here
Isn't Sushang the king of physical break?
@skennylegend1835 every king needs a queen my friend :)
As chalk rubs and cracks...
The debuffs roar in damage...
Concerto to sustain,Aventurine of Stratagems...
Domain Expansion: Wiseman's folly,Cogito Ergo Sum.
the rot consumes
@@artumbo so fr bc i just got e1 feixiao while trying to get JUST ONE Moze
i have aventurine, ratio and robin at e2 and I don't think I would ever replace any of them lol
the holy trinity
do you have topaz or are planning on getting her?
I knew Ratio was strong, but I didn't expect it to be as close as it was; thought Feixiao would absolutely annihilate Ratio when it comes to this- well, I suppose Feixiao definitely was clearly better, just not as big of a difference as I expected. Anyways, in our hearts we all know that Luocha will always be the best girl (and speaking of abundance, we need a comparison between Gallagher and Lingsha when she comes out).
imaginary men are always best girls
i'll try to cook something up with gally and lingsha :)
Imo it’s still noticeable Fei team still has much more AVs left
If “close” means not double, then yeah it was “close” 😄
@@discreaminant well yeah true, i was expecting something like double frankly so thats why i said it
@@artumbo can't wait!
@@discreaminanthot deym 3854AV is much more than 3815AV huh. so 39AV which is literally like half a turn worth of AV is a lot huh. I mean it's true that Feixiao is noticeably better than Ratio but... Yeah just yeah. It's like saying you scored much higher than your classmate that had 98 points while you have 100.
who do you want to see next?
Superbreak Sushang Vs Superbreak Luka
i miss qingque
you...
@@uricchi i was JUST thinking about that (not specifically superbreak) and I think aven in the new apocalyptic shadow will be perfect for that
@@catsoup im attempting v8 in DU with her rn but it's tough 😭
dr ratio is hotter thooo
valid
not really, youre just a
Hsr been cooking with their characters
ive been loving the new kits and they've also helped revitalize some of the older ones too!
I'm a Ratio main but I still got Feixiao. Moze E4 was to good to skip and even with both sharing their best teams (I have Robin and Aventurine), I don't have any other DPS in my account and Love the Follow Up Archetype (I have Jade, Herta and Xueyi built just bcs of FUA).
So I'm a new player... Do i pull for robin or wait for adventurine?
aventurine will make it so it becomes almost impossible to die but robin will give crazy amp to any team you put her in
id still recommend robin tho overall since there are good alternatives for aven, while none can really do what robin does
Does march 7th work better than Moze with Ratio if you have no topaz?
i would say no unless you can somehow guarantee at least 3 debuffs on enemies :/
moze helps out a lot because he applies 2
1:13 it's 8am in my country and i did not expect a fart this early of the day
💀
sorry LOOOOL
Im copping i dont think ill get faxio which means ratio is better xD
hey if she doesnt exist then she cant be better 😂
1:04 supa break Welt 💯
so fun to use! enemies dont even move between the imprisons, slows and rm + hmc delays on break
I got ratio and fe xaio, im all in on follow up attacks just need me some adventurine, topaz
hope you get them early and win your 50/50s 🙏
how did you film this? all i got is that this probably took a long time to gather all the footage
Dr. Ratio bathtub game so strong he even got Kafka in there with him and gave her 69 points!
aintnoway
Should i pull topaz for feixiao team or is moze and hunt march enough?
my two favourite characters 😻😻
technically the tie breaker is pointless since fei's run doesn't even need another robin ult
Can u do another showdown but instead, it's debuff characters like jiaoqiu vs black swan?😊😊😊😊😊
i think i'll do something to that effect in the future! whether it be a sustain showdown or debuff showdown i'll try to come up with something :)
All of us are arguing about Fexiao vs Ratio, but in the end we all know the real mvp is Robin 🤧
i love robin
I used them with march and Clara with propagation and elation buffs in su and laughed on auto play 😅
mustve been an insane amount of chain follow up attacks
good to see ratio can still bring the pain
once the goat, always the goat :)
How long have you been playing and how much have you spent
we dont talk about that
Genshin Devs and HSR Devs don't talk to each other. Then there's the ZZZ Devs who copy homework, and listen to their community.
PS. I was confused by your Fei damage until I went back and saw Topaz and Robin. You have a little more CD than me, and a little less ATK, but I'm using her recommended set, but your Fei is hitting like an absolute freight train by comparison. I'm definitely hoping to snag Robin E1 before she leaves, but it took all I had just to get Fei and Robin in the first place...
Can anybody tell me the song at the 8:38 Dr. Ratio Phase 1? Its HSR OST but I don't know the which one. Cool video btw.
EDIT: NVM found it its Streets Abuzz Variation Luminary Wardance
thank you!
and for the first fight if you're interested the OST is Welkin's Advent Luminary Wardance :)
Dr Ratio is still the goat being a free character
I think what makes Feixiao better than Ratio is that Feixiao synergizes perfectly with the FUA team core (Topaz, Robin, Aventurine), while Ratio doesn't. Ratio needs at least 5 debuffs on the enemy to deal full damage. Ratio applies 1 himself, Topaz applies only 1, Aventurine aplies 1 with his ult, but it has terrible uptime, and Robin applies none.
Best case scenario you'll have 3 debuffs on the enemy, which is not enough for Ratio to deal full damage, and most of the time you'll have only 2. If you were to take out either Topaz or Robin to place a debuffer, you'll take a MASSIVE dps loss, because even Silver Wolf, the best debuffer in the game, is nowhere near as good as them at amplifying Ratio's damage.
Should Hoyo release a debuffer that is as good as Robin, with lots of different debuffs, then Ratio would be pretty much equal to Feixiao, if not better.
Yeah but dr ratio doesnt need the debuffer as its easy to imprison enemies cause hunt characters got good toughness damage
Is the new follow up rope good for ratio? I just finished building him and he is only hitting like 60k follow up
duran is definitely bis for topaz/feixiao/ratio so id go for it if you dont already have a good alternative (glamoth, salsotto, etc.)
The problem with ratio is that he is expensive
I mean my ratio is rank #50 in seeleland but in action he sucks(i can't reach 100k with fua) cuz he is f2p and i don't have sw,topaz or robin
damn yeah it's tough without topaz/robin - did you manage to snag any moze copies?
@@artumbo e1
You can literally say the same thing to Feixiao without Robin, u can also use Moze on Ratio as an alternative for Topaz.
i already have e1s1 ratio and e1s1 topaz will they out performance eos1 feixiao
you'll easily clear any content with that team (barring aoe stuff like pf) and the difference between e0s1 ratio and feixiao are already minor
Well i have to pull for robin im on the edge right now deciding to skip feixiao or not........??
If i pull robin now then i have to save until Feixiao Reruns to e2 s1 her while getting Acheron's lc and Aventurine
that's quite the list of things to get 😳
if you really like feixiao id highly recommend getting her but if you're looking for pure strength robin takes priority
hope this helps! :)
Hidrogen Bomb vs Coughing Baby
I'm not sure I understand why you nerfed the support characters, if they're the same on both sides shouldn't it cancel out?
...which you then did for AS lol I guess I should watch the whole thing before commenting, I still am not sure it was necessary for MoC tho
yeah i realized the nerfing wasnt necessary since they used the same teams either way haha
7:50 you can also just spam spacebar and it does the correct attack
that's true! im too lazy to do that sometimes tho so i just v and then v again when it's over haha
Wait isn't the plannar reversed? Why you give fei duran and ratio salsotto
duran is bis for both but my salsotto pieces for ratio were cracked and actually i just didnt even have an attack or imaginary orb on duran at the time :')
1:13 I heard that chuckle when you said FART 🧐
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Shouldn't feixiao be on 4pc wind soaring valorous set?
duke/valorous are neck and neck in terms of damage for her - even one more substat roll can be the difference
Doctor, you’re huge
Why not put Duran on Dr Ratio?
duran is definitely the better set for him, but my salsotto quality is much higher than my duran (dont have a single usable atk/imaginary orb on it) so it ends up being his best option on my account!
@@artumbo lol
Why is his Robin attack soo low... AND STILL DOES A HECK TON OF DAMAGE COMPARED TO THE HIGH ATTACK MY FRIENDS HAVE?!
:')
low attack is because s5 journey was level 20 but the high damage is from having her e1
The correct answer is Topaz, Topaz is the best dps 💪
goatpaz
true i love 0 cycling with her(Hyper Topaz 0 cycles on my channel 🔥)
So basically no reason to get Feixiao unless you just want her bc you like the character.
No
The conclusion is
Just get robin e1 and topaz e1s1 and aventurine
And you will be able to clear any content
unfortunately i really like feixiao haha
or if you barely have any fua units like me, (i only have robin) then feixiao completely overshadows ratio. went from a 3-4 cycle with ratio to a comfy 1 cycle with feixiao in current moc first side.
@@Ah-wz6nn You're using Ratio wrong then. He doesn't need fua units. Debuffers like Pela, Silverwolf or Jiaoqiu + a harmony like Sparkle or Bronya give him all he needs. And E2 Moze is a cheap fua unit for him that has as many debuffs for Ratio as E1S1 Topaz
@@BananaCake26 no sparkle + jiaoqiu + silverwolf + didnt build gui + moze didn't exist yet + used bronya on side 2.
best i could do was ratio + pela + ty + hh, relying on ult fua procs with ty and hh energy battery. Replacing either ty or pela with robin in that team didn't help much either.
meanwhile feixiao robin march gall/hh got me 1 cycling with a lot of room to spare. might've even been a 0 cyc if i had feixiao lc and e6'd march.
point is even though at their best feixiao is only a little stronger than ratio, she's much more flexible than him and performs exceptionally better in an f2p scenario
I can't wait for Dr Ratio rerun for his LC so I can give it to FeiXiao lmao
haha it's so good on her and can even be better than her own sig if you can maintain 3 debuffs on enemies
@@artumbo Seeing how almost all Support or even DPS characters gives debuff now I don't see why not 😭
I run my feifei on 3 piece wind, 3 wind crit and 2 piece taikiyan
Edit: Cr 100
CD 75
Boothill vs Feixiao
ooo that'll be interesting - my account with boothill isn't quite there yet but in the future ill definitely try to include him in these
Boothill better
feixiao clears
man still dont know if i should change dr ratio to feixao
they're both great honestly and they (almost) fill the same role for many teams
@@artumbo i hit feixao signature so i Will play her lol
Hate Robin cause her annoying song makes her a skip for alot of people, but anyway I like Artumbo thats not an issue :3
Oh cool, another E2 Aventurine haver. Most ppl either busted (E0) or took em all (E6). See what I did there. I opted for E2 for my E6 Ach and didn’t go any further as E4/6 only benefits himself not the team.
"If Dr. Ratio Summoned Robin for DMG Buff, would you lose?"
Feixiao: "Nah I'd victory is inevitable"
I like Ratio’s design and personality more but Feixiao is really fun to use (and debuffs are annoying to keep up) so I’ve been using Feixiao lately. I haven’t abandoned my Ratio, I’m just giving him a bit of a break 💔🥲
whats ur color settings
i usually add some more vibrance, increase sharpness and tone down the film grain during editing
i know you're asking for hsr but i made a video a while ago showing how you can adjust your visuals using nvidia filters (can do it with amd as well) - let me know if you're able to access the link:
th-cam.com/video/bWpoj87czzQ/w-d-xo.html
i recommend playing around with the filters since they'll have a completely different effect in genshin compared to hsr but overall they make the game look a lot more lively and crisp
@@artumbo thank u so much for going out your way to help me i appreciate it.
Once again the real victor is robin ❤
robin's the best
non dps wise hot take ratio is just boring to use i dont have a premium FUA team so i just ungeared him to give his relics to march
I managed to 0c MoC 12 without a lightcone on Feixiao and she still did more damage than Aventurine and Topaz combined(my Topaz is top1% on Seeleland for E0S1) i used E1 Robin tho, but still a lcless clear for a crit dps. I might upload it tomorrow.
damnnnn well done haha will definitely check it out if you do end up uploading it!
Send Topaz stats pleek
So my daddy Ratio lost by a bit. Imma fix it real quick by getting his E1. Equal cost. Equal comparision 🤷🏻♀️
are you going for more or just e1
@@artumbo just e1 i guess, if this game isnt getting much powercrept then i'll save for e4 the next next rerun
Bro i aint watching all that someone tell me who is better and why
robin
why the nihility lc on topaz?
just to nerf her a little bit to compensate for having e1
@@artumbodid you edit it on
how they both still compete, and with many FUA charas that feixiao bring along, we can still use both of them in different sides. How moze can be an option for ratio team if you dont have topaz sign or e1. Maybe just they try to take over each other robin & aven lmao
it'll be a fight for robin/aven haha
but yeah im pretty happy with moze cause he unlocks ratio for a LOT of players who were lacking a debuff type support and he's almost on par with e0 topaz (if he's got his e2)
great 4 star overall :)
yeah, this MOC is a clear example, did my first 36 clear while using
Ratio Moze robin Aventurine
Feixiao Hunt7 Bronya Huo2
Hydrogen bomb vs coughing baby ahh take
coughing bomb vs hydrogen baby
Kinda wanted to see hypercarry ratio but is what it is
maybe next time! problem with hypercarry ratio here is i wouldn't be able to give feixiao the same team
I already lost my feixiao 50 50 to welt😢😢 i hate him
nooo sorry to hear that i hope you get her early 🙏
Same but gepard 🤢
if were at a point where were comparing these two, then dr ratio wins by the mere fact that hes free LOL (i am salty i lost 50/50 on feixiao banner cryge)
sorry to hear that :( hope your next 5 star is early 🙏
Ok dr ratio keep up with a emanator of hunt is lan that weak
or is dr ratio just that strong ;)
I don't know...I just pull for fun and got her but during my testing I found out that feixiao without her LC and Robin does trash damage,my ratio still does better..
Moze vs m7 bro
i think i'll try to do that in the future - couldnt pull many mozes on these banners :')
How the fuck are you using a nihility lightcone on TOPAZ
you can actually equip a light cone from any path! but if the character doesn't follow said path it won't have any effects (only the base stats)
@artumbo then why do it in the first place if it's next to useless?
@@christian751To nerf topaz to compensate for her E1
Feixiao is definitely better but damn, who knew a free unit could be THIS good
the doctor is still huge
I dont even need to watch the vid to tell you fexiou is a beast of a unit
One throw a punch and the other throw a chalk. We know which one hit harder right? 😏
Physically, it's a punch. Emotionally, it's chalk.
id rather take the punch haha
Yoo
yoooo
Nah Feixiao is just crazy, she does it so effortlessly
it's too easy for her
FART team😂
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Bro these newest 5 star is crazy. By the time 3.0 drop my E1 Seele gonna be a 3 star 💀
poor seele 😭 but she's still really strong and can take down all end game modes no problem (this AS is a bit rough tho we need more quantum weak)
eh the eidolons on topaz and aventurine are carrying ratio too much
That makes no sense, the eidolons are the same in Fei's gameplay lol
@@BananaCake26 yes and they benefit ratio more due to the debuffs.
i get where you're coming from but i'd say the only real advantage is he's getting is slightly more dmg% from his a6 trace (10% per debuff, which translates to a ~3.3% increase in actual damage per stack after 3 and capping at 5 for a ~6.6% increase)
definitely not an inconsequential increase from having additional debuffs but also not gamechanging :)
I think Feixiao is better than Ratio in term of investment need because even with Moze you can sometimes not get his fua and with Topaz you need at least e0s1 or e1s1 to guarantee it
yeah it can still be tough for him but im glad we have moze now with 2 innate debuffs in his kit :)