Great video and comparison. I have a long love/hate relationship with Mizuno. My previous irons were the MP-60s that I played for YEARS. Loved them. 3 years ago (for my 70th birthday) I gave myself a fitting and a new set of clubs. My game couldn't justify the MP series anymore and I was really interested in the JPX921HMPs. (Here comes the hate part). Traditionally, Mizuno has been one of the least "lefty-friendly" brands in terms of which models were available to us lefties. The only model that was available to me at the time, that was appropriate for where my game is now, in the JPX line was the base Hot Metal. I went into the fitting with an open mind and wound up with TM Sim2 Max irons. They are OK but certainly not Mizuno. Last year, I made the "mistake" of trying the 923HMPs which WERE available to lefties and not sure (other than buying another set so soon) why they aren't in my bag. Your video is making me really want to look into the 925s as I see they ARE available to lefties. My only question for you (and Emma) is why would someone that has as much game (and distance) as Emma obviously has, be playing HMPs (regardless of generation? I would think that either something in the MP series or, if she wanted to be in the JPX series, the forged AT A MINMUM (if not the tour) would be a GREAT club for her! Thanks!
Thanks for your feedback and comment! Great stuff. I feel bad for the lefties out there - always much more limited when searching for clubs. In this video and other content we've filmed with Emma, she has noted that she likes the distance advantage she can get with a little hotter iron like the JPX 921 Hot Metal Pro. It gives her a little boost of confidence knowing she has a club or two (or even three) shorter than her opponents for approach shots. But, the compact shape of the Hot Metal Pro still allows her to hit fades or draws if she needs.
True. Beauty is always compelling. But ugliness repels, and quite naturally so. Her beauty is the primary reason you like her, not her personality. And this is quite natural.
@@JeremiahAlphonsus I assure you that if she was ugly and just as fun on screen, I'd feel the same way. It's why I always enjoyed Mr. Kraft on the Swing Reports. Though, he is a handsome man, I am not attracted to him at all. I like the people that have a good dynamic with Drew and make an otherwise boring review more engaging.
Time to switch! BUT… I’d be interested to see her try the 925 Forged (when they come out- or even the 923’s now) if she wants a little more spin and workability. I bet she would LOVE how those feel!
@@2ndswing Awesome! Based on her feedback I just wonder if she would fit better into the Forged? 🤔🤷♂️ She should still get comparable distance and forgiveness, but with a better feeling more consistent iron (that she can work)
Love the honesty with calling out the fresh grooves for the spin difference. That's exactly why I usually refer to it as updating my irons instead as opposed to "upgrading" when I swap my irons every 4 years or so.
Yeah, the nice little wear spot is clearly visible in her gamer club. I'm pretty obsessive about cleaning my clubs after every shot so my sets don't wear our much. My wedge grooves do take a beating in the sand.
Night and day difference in shafts. The 921 head is lower spinning than the 923. The 923 has faster ball speed but more spin. I imagine the 925 has less ball speed loss on off center strikes vs both. Looking at the break down of design, it has to be more forgiving on low strikes looking at the slots in the sole they brought back in these. They did away with them on the 919 I believe. I have the ns pro modus 105 in one set and the dg 105 s300 in the 923. Those DG are lower spin than the modus and way lower than the kbs 90 and totally different kick point. If she swaps to 923 I bet she changes shafts. Nice video.
What a great swing, and such a nice personality on camera. As I was watching I noticed that the spin with her 921's was too low. It looked like she didn't have a substantial difference with the 925's, other than 500 rpm more spin and a couple of yards less distance. If she keeps the 921's I think she would benefit from bending them a degree weaker, which would up the spin closer to what she is getting from the 925's. I could watch her swing all day.
That's why we offer a 30-day play guarantee with any club, whether new or used. Gives the player the chance to go play with them outside to make sure they're the clubs for them!
Very interesting point. This accords with what I recently experienced doing some Trackman testing off of mats. My average 7-iron spin was 5036. Thus in the real world my spin numbers are 500-700rpm higher, between 5536-5736. Using the 800 x club number yields 800 x 7 = 5600.
Hi Drew and Emma!!
I would love to see Emma hit Mizuno Pro 245 vs JPX 925 HM Pro!! Both the 7 iron and the pitching wedge. Thanks!!
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Thanks for the idea!
I bought the Mizuno 245s and immediately sold them because of the dull, hollow-bodied feel. I replaced them with the far superior 243s.
Great video and comparison. I have a long love/hate relationship with Mizuno. My previous irons were the MP-60s that I played for YEARS. Loved them. 3 years ago (for my 70th birthday) I gave myself a fitting and a new set of clubs. My game couldn't justify the MP series anymore and I was really interested in the JPX921HMPs. (Here comes the hate part). Traditionally, Mizuno has been one of the least "lefty-friendly" brands in terms of which models were available to us lefties. The only model that was available to me at the time, that was appropriate for where my game is now, in the JPX line was the base Hot Metal. I went into the fitting with an open mind and wound up with TM Sim2 Max irons. They are OK but certainly not Mizuno. Last year, I made the "mistake" of trying the 923HMPs which WERE available to lefties and not sure (other than buying another set so soon) why they aren't in my bag. Your video is making me really want to look into the 925s as I see they ARE available to lefties.
My only question for you (and Emma) is why would someone that has as much game (and distance) as Emma obviously has, be playing HMPs (regardless of generation? I would think that either something in the MP series or, if she wanted to be in the JPX series, the forged AT A MINMUM (if not the tour) would be a GREAT club for her!
Thanks!
Thanks for your feedback and comment! Great stuff. I feel bad for the lefties out there - always much more limited when searching for clubs.
In this video and other content we've filmed with Emma, she has noted that she likes the distance advantage she can get with a little hotter iron like the JPX 921 Hot Metal Pro. It gives her a little boost of confidence knowing she has a club or two (or even three) shorter than her opponents for approach shots. But, the compact shape of the Hot Metal Pro still allows her to hit fades or draws if she needs.
Great video , Emma’s terrific on camera.
Emma is a beast. She's a natural on camera too. Her personality jumps right off the screen.
True. Beauty is always compelling. But ugliness repels, and quite naturally so. Her beauty is the primary reason you like her, not her personality. And this is quite natural.
@@JeremiahAlphonsus I assure you that if she was ugly and just as fun on screen, I'd feel the same way. It's why I always enjoyed Mr. Kraft on the Swing Reports. Though, he is a handsome man, I am not attracted to him at all. I like the people that have a good dynamic with Drew and make an otherwise boring review more engaging.
Love Emma - swing and personality are awesome. She is a star in the making.
Time to switch!
BUT… I’d be interested to see her try the 925 Forged (when they come out- or even the 923’s now) if she wants a little more spin and workability. I bet she would LOVE how those feel!
We can add that to the future list of comparisons to see!
@@2ndswing
Awesome!
Based on her feedback I just wonder if she would fit better into the Forged?
🤔🤷♂️
She should still get comparable distance and forgiveness, but with a better feeling more consistent iron (that she can work)
Are they coming out with 925 forge? I currently have 919 forge
@@jimb9825
They’re on the USGA conforming list, but Mizuno hasn’t released any news yet
@@ivantheterriblegolfer thanks I thought they just got rid of them for Hot metal, was going to start looking at Taylormade probablys still will lol
Love the honesty with calling out the fresh grooves for the spin difference. That's exactly why I usually refer to it as updating my irons instead as opposed to "upgrading" when I swap my irons every 4 years or so.
Yeah, the nice little wear spot is clearly visible in her gamer club. I'm pretty obsessive about cleaning my clubs after every shot so my sets don't wear our much. My wedge grooves do take a beating in the sand.
Yep, fresh grooves can make a big difference, especially when you're a player of Emma's caliber that's a consistent ball striker.
Great video, let's see a full fitting one for the 925s
Agree seeing a full fitting would be great. It would be interesting to see if there is an even better shaft fit for her in the 925’s.
Perhaps Emma is thinking about it after hitting those!
Mizuno seems to have so many stock shaft options for the 925s. It's a little overwhelming unless you can get in and try a number of them.
Great vid. Nice swing. Impressive smash factor!
dang! such an athletic swing!
Night and day difference in shafts. The 921 head is lower spinning than the 923. The 923 has faster ball speed but more spin. I imagine the 925 has less ball speed loss on off center strikes vs both. Looking at the break down of design, it has to be more forgiving on low strikes looking at the slots in the sole they brought back in these. They did away with them on the 919 I believe.
I have the ns pro modus 105 in one set and the dg 105 s300 in the 923. Those DG are lower spin than the modus and way lower than the kbs 90 and totally different kick point. If she swaps to 923 I bet she changes shafts. Nice video.
What a great swing, and such a nice personality on camera. As I was watching I noticed that the spin with her 921's was too low. It looked like she didn't have a substantial difference with the 925's, other than 500 rpm more spin and a couple of yards less distance. If she keeps the 921's I think she would benefit from bending them a degree weaker, which would up the spin closer to what she is getting from the 925's. I could watch her swing all day.
Perhaps. Maybe there's a testing video we could do to see! 🤔
I have 921 also. Great to see the difference. Xd
Thanks for watching!
I could never hit indoors. That's why my fittings are more hit or misses.
That's why we offer a 30-day play guarantee with any club, whether new or used. Gives the player the chance to go play with them outside to make sure they're the clubs for them!
Need a fitting video now she's going to change. Not a doubt.
Emma has great personality
Lofts are now so juiced. Clubs should now only display the degree number rather than “7” etc. Today’s 7 iron was yesterday‘s 5 iron.
Don't forget too that spin off mats tends to be 5-700rpm lower than grass
Very interesting point. This accords with what I recently experienced doing some Trackman testing off of mats. My average 7-iron spin was 5036. Thus in the real world my spin numbers are 500-700rpm higher, between 5536-5736. Using the 800 x club number yields 800 x 7 = 5600.
That wear mark on the 921s
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Still hitting into a fairway vs a green. 🙄
The numbers would still be the same.
Wow. 85mph for Club Speed for an amateur lady player!!!😱Incredible. She'll probably out play some LPGAs.
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