I always love hearing the "if you commit suicide, you don't get the insurance" line in movies. Typically, suicide only nullifies an insurance policy benefit if the death is within 2 years of issue. Outside of the 2 year contestable period, suicide as a cause of death would trigger a payout of the policy benefits. (if you have an existing policy in force for a number of years, and increase the amount, the increased amount above the original is subject to the same 2 year window from the date of increase)
I used to work at the head office of a life insurance company that issued policies in NY and other states, with policies going back to the 1920's. I don't recall any contestable period being longer than 2 years.
Diagnosis Murder had the same thing; after two years the Insurance company has to pay no matter what. It's called The Incontestable Clause and on any and all insurance policies
Briscoe was my favorite detective on this show, but I loved Greevy being paired with Logan. They really were able to do some impeccable detective work in their cases, such as with how they mapped out the phone info of the victims.
If the defendant is to be believed, this was assisted suicide in all but the last case. By holding the firearm while it discharged, the law says he is guilty of unlawful homicide. The exact charge is open to debate, but Murder 1 is pretty much out of the question. Myself, I would charge him with involuntary manslaughter. What right do we have to tell someone they have to live in unbearable suffering?
@@animalm4st3r I agree. Assist the person but they *and they alone* must perform the actual killing act upon themselves. "Yes, I'll provide the gun and bullets. No I won't hold the gun for you. If I am touching the weapon when it fires I am guilty of unlawful homicide."
@@calebgarrett214 As far as I'm concerned the laws against an adult doing drugs are wrong. It's my body. I'm not allowed to inject drugs with or without consent into someone else. But what I do with my body is my business. Telling me I can't use drugs is saying that the state owns me. We fought an insurrection to stop people from owning other people. Now the government wants to bring it back again but where they are the sole owners.
It might be disagreeable, but assisted suicide should be a legal way to end your life. Not for any circumstance, but under conditions like terminal cancer, aids, ALS, MS, etc. No one should have to suffer a slow agonizing death, so that people not even connected to them can feel better about how that other person died. Both of my grandmas died slowly, painfully. In their shoes, I wouldn't want to drag it out. I saw what it did to my parents. It's devastating.
i got lupus and it has now started to affect my organs. i was in the hospital for a month with 2 weeks on life support my 16 yr old daughter found me unresponsive while my austic 14yr old son was in his room i went septic and my blood sugar dropped. when i came home i wa out a week then went back in with m mouth swollen that i could not swollow i was throwing up nd had mers in my lungs while i was in the hospital before and the sores that the vent caused got infected and that made my mouth swell. i have nerve damage in y hands and legs nd feet. i suffer every day in pain ad get sick so easy. Trust me i have thought about going t a state or country where you can leagly kill our self but i also dont want my kids to suffer. But them watching me go down hill also takes a toll on them. They missed so much school already and my daughter has ptsd from finding me with vomit going down to my get and laying in it not knowing.
So charge him with insurance fraud. But not murder in the cases where he assisted the suicide. There is no getting around the last one though. He was holding the firearm while it discharged. That's some kind of homicide charge right there, although I think justice would be best served by involuntary manslaughter.
@@heraldofoblivion499 If the victim pulled the trigger, then it is manslaughter. Because the defendant was holding the weapon. If the Defendant pulled the trigger, then it is indeed murder.
@@kellyrayburn4093 For the last case in would be unlawful murder, which basically means the killing was done without lawful excuse and in breach with the law. At least that's google's definition of it.
There needs to be a legally recognized process for terminal patients to call it quits. The law today is more concerned with control over human life, rather than its quality. Laws concerning suicide and assisted termination are too often a question of control, and not compassion.
Controlled environment with proper council, an individual of sound judgement and proper paper work...perhaps. A revolver, a culpable party and a rag to wipe away evidence...No
Been legal in Oregon for a long time now. Two different doctors have to agree that the patient has 6 months or less to live, and the patient has to request it in writing. Pretty well established at this point.
@@kelmars1738 but unlike with pets, we can know what humans think about their end of life, so I would say that they should be the ones choosing for a fast death, not their families, not their doctors, it doesn't matter whether they do it to get their hands on dad's estate a little faster or because they want to spare him suffering, it's not their call to make.
Under the law in the UK a charge of assisting a suicide can only bought with the consent of the Attorney General. In nine out of ten cases consent is not given as it is a relative of the person who died. The only time consent to prosecute might be given is if the person assisting was a professional care giver.
3:50 Bust the door and stand back? Max, that padding of your isn't going protect you if the guy on the other end was packing like you expecting bringing the SWAT team. Are you worried the SWAT guys are going to try to get credit for the arrest?
Vern C; As long as we're making assumptions let's assume the Man in the Moon shits chocolate Twinkies Where do you think you live? Nazi Germany? The cops are supposed to follow the law in this country (they don't, but they're supposed to ) First, they can't serve an ordinary warrant "no knock" They have to have "no knock warrant" Robinette didn"t say, "I'll see the judge and get a warrant" of any kind. He said "pick him up". It just doesn't work that way. Haven't you ever heard of the 4th amendment??? ""The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized." Without a specific "no knock"warrant, signed by a judge, all they can legally do is knock on his door and ask him to come out. And I'm pretty sure his friend has a nice lawsuit for illegal arrest and detainment. He wasn't wanted for anything. Even in Houston the criminal pigs have to at least lie to a judge and get a no knock warrant before they break in and murder people.
@@exilfromsanity There are many law and order episodes in which there are legal repercussions for warrant-related issues. Just because they don't specifically discuss the warrant doesn't meant they didn't get one, any more than the fact that they don't specifically discuss the evidence with the DA every single time means they weren't involved. Not every episode has every specific aspect of the investigation, largely for pacing reasons.
@@JudaMetalMaiden I believe there were viewer complaints that there were no females in the main cast. So the producers brought them in for the fourth season, but for that to happen, they had to let go of Florek and Richard Brooks. It was a shocker and devastating to me because they're great actors, but I got over it.
doesnt really matter, Assisted suicide is still murder 2, man 1 with a plea deal. even if assisted suicide becomes legal in the future, doing so with a weapon and then staging the scene will still be at minimum Man 1
They thought they were dealing with a guy who was going state to state blowing people's heads off with a shotgun. Not exactly a "heat of the moment" killing as far as they saw it.
What I always loved is the guys breaking down the door are wearing riot gear. Yet the detectives who go through the door have no protection at all. Oops!
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By making opioids so difficult to obtain legally, we can thank the CDC and the DEA for driving thousands of pain patients to commit suicide rather than live and die in agony. Not every disorder can be treated. Not every broken body can be healed. Some of us are facing a lifetime of suffering and disability due to diseases and accidents that we did not cause or invite!
I always love hearing the "if you commit suicide, you don't get the insurance" line in movies.
Typically, suicide only nullifies an insurance policy benefit if the death is within 2 years of issue.
Outside of the 2 year contestable period, suicide as a cause of death would trigger a payout of the policy benefits.
(if you have an existing policy in force for a number of years, and increase the amount, the increased amount above the original is subject to the same 2 year window from the date of increase)
Vern C keep in mind this is 1990 and also in New York State , things may have been different then
I used to work at the head office of a life insurance company that issued policies in NY and other states, with policies going back to the 1920's. I don't recall any contestable period being longer than 2 years.
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@@jovitatallman5960 Yes, I completely agree.
Diagnosis Murder had the same thing; after two years the Insurance company has to pay no matter what. It's called The Incontestable Clause and on any and all insurance policies
Briscoe was my favorite detective on this show, but I loved Greevy being paired with Logan. They really were able to do some impeccable detective work in their cases, such as with how they mapped out the phone info of the victims.
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Ole Lenny was the best with the sarcasm and snark, but honestly, they all did a damn good job roasting people.
Big fan of the first season of Law & Order
Omgoodness yasssss
Hi , then do u know in this episode who betrayed Stone?
If the defendant is to be believed, this was assisted suicide in all but the last case. By holding the firearm while it discharged, the law says he is guilty of unlawful homicide. The exact charge is open to debate, but Murder 1 is pretty much out of the question. Myself, I would charge him with involuntary manslaughter. What right do we have to tell someone they have to live in unbearable suffering?
well we dont but take ur own life dont wrap anyone else init
@@animalm4st3r I agree. Assist the person but they *and they alone* must perform the actual killing act upon themselves. "Yes, I'll provide the gun and bullets. No I won't hold the gun for you. If I am touching the weapon when it fires I am guilty of unlawful homicide."
.what right do we have not to let people do drugs? Laws are laws
@@kellyrayburn4093 it was about insurance. Not suffering
@@calebgarrett214 As far as I'm concerned the laws against an adult doing drugs are wrong. It's my body. I'm not allowed to inject drugs with or without consent into someone else. But what I do with my body is my business. Telling me I can't use drugs is saying that the state owns me. We fought an insurrection to stop people from owning other people. Now the government wants to bring it back again but where they are the sole owners.
Always loved the original L& O...
Love it more than SVU
@@JudaMetalMaiden Same here.
@@johndrake2729 yeah
It might be disagreeable, but assisted suicide should be a legal way to end your life. Not for any circumstance, but under conditions like terminal cancer, aids, ALS, MS, etc. No one should have to suffer a slow agonizing death, so that people not even connected to them can feel better about how that other person died. Both of my grandmas died slowly, painfully. In their shoes, I wouldn't want to drag it out. I saw what it did to my parents. It's devastating.
Assisted suicide actually is legal, under the correct circumstances.
@@u.s.s.chucklefucker1657 in the states? I thought it was only certain states that allowed it. Did it change?
I agree,but alert the cops or the government first,so they don't go investigating it for murder.
i got lupus and it has now started to affect my organs. i was in the hospital for a month with 2 weeks on life support my 16 yr old daughter found me unresponsive while my austic 14yr old son was in his room i went septic and my blood sugar dropped. when i came home i wa out a week then went back in with m mouth swollen that i could not swollow i was throwing up nd had mers in my lungs while i was in the hospital before and the sores that the vent caused got infected and that made my mouth swell. i have nerve damage in y hands and legs nd feet. i suffer every day in pain ad get sick so easy. Trust me i have thought about going t a state or country where you can leagly kill our self but i also dont want my kids to suffer. But them watching me go down hill also takes a toll on them. They missed so much school already and my daughter has ptsd from finding me with vomit going down to my get and laying in it not knowing.
looks so good for 1991
Actually this was in 1990
@@billypetty1453 :p
My gosh, Dann Florek just didn't age for like a good 20 years huh
All I can think of when I see the actor playing Jack is:
“Let’s do it for our country, our country wants us to!”
That man is still guilty of insurance fraud and he just admitted it
So charge him with insurance fraud. But not murder in the cases where he assisted the suicide. There is no getting around the last one though. He was holding the firearm while it discharged. That's some kind of homicide charge right there, although I think justice would be best served by involuntary manslaughter.
@@kellyrayburn4093
Not manslaughter because it was premeditated, and it sure as hell wasn't involuntary.
@@heraldofoblivion499 If the victim pulled the trigger, then it is manslaughter. Because the defendant was holding the weapon. If the Defendant pulled the trigger, then it is indeed murder.
@@kellyrayburn4093 For the last case in would be unlawful murder, which basically means the killing was done without lawful excuse and in breach with the law. At least that's google's definition of it.
There needs to be a legally recognized process for terminal patients to call it quits.
The law today is more concerned with control over human life, rather than its quality.
Laws concerning suicide and assisted termination are too often a question of control, and not compassion.
Controlled environment with proper council, an individual of sound judgement and proper paper work...perhaps. A revolver, a culpable party and a rag to wipe away evidence...No
Completely agree. So unfair that pets and other animals get to be “put out of their misery “ but humans have to suffer till the end.
Been legal in Oregon for a long time now. Two different doctors have to agree that the patient has 6 months or less to live, and the patient has to request it in writing. Pretty well established at this point.
@@kelmars1738 but unlike with pets, we can know what humans think about their end of life, so I would say that they should be the ones choosing for a fast death, not their families, not their doctors, it doesn't matter whether they do it to get their hands on dad's estate a little faster or because they want to spare him suffering, it's not their call to make.
@@barvdw I agree, no one should be forced to suffer.
LOL at 0:38: Fax you!
I love watching them do the footwork and old.style investigating... before all the CSI type shows
I always loved logans facial expressions
I just love his face.
Michael Moriarty shined in this show, always remember as the guy from The Stuff
Omg I loved that movie, the stuffff 😂
Moe. Last name unknown. Ex-FBI. Apparently too effective, so he was bounced.
People have gotten a lot smarter about how to commit suicide and make it look like murder since then. You dont need help to do it anymore.
“Cool motive, Still murder”
*assisted suicide
Under the law in the UK a charge of assisting a suicide can only bought with the consent of the Attorney General. In nine out of ten cases consent is not given as it is a relative of the person who died. The only time consent to prosecute might be given is if the person assisting was a professional care giver.
In the UK the people are considered property of the crown. Not humans with dignity.
0:25
I like the colors on Logan's tie.
3:50 Bust the door and stand back? Max, that padding of your isn't going protect you if the guy on the other end was packing like you expecting bringing the SWAT team. Are you worried the SWAT guys are going to try to get credit for the arrest?
Yes.
That hi top. Always gets me.
0:38
"Ey?! Fax you! Okay?"
Subtle.
Oh and the cops should reimburse him for ruining his dinner and carpet. I mean how rude. Breaking in and demansing he drop the plates full of food.
Missed this one . I’ll have to watch on Peacock.
funny how that detective plays as evil characther in sg1.
If the government wants to prosecute people for assisted suicide, then the government should set up a system whereby a person can do this legally.
They would just set up a system that makes it practically impossible.
It's the dude from grease 2!
Exactly!!!
Let's do it for our country, the red white and blue lol this is what I think of when I see him lol
Assisted suicide.. I remember having a highschool class debate on this with this as my subject. It was already hard to talk about.
You can't bust down a door and arrest someone because some assistant D.A. says "pick him up" What bullshit. The cops need a warrant signed by a judge.
It's an hour long show.
Get over yourself.
Let's assume they have an arrest warrant, they executed a "no-knock" serving of that warrant, which would be unusual for this type of alleged crime.
Vern C; As long as we're making assumptions let's assume the Man in the Moon shits chocolate Twinkies
Where do you think you live? Nazi Germany? The cops are supposed to follow the law in this country
(they don't, but they're supposed to )
First, they can't serve an ordinary warrant "no knock" They have to have "no knock warrant" Robinette didn"t say, "I'll see the judge and get a warrant" of any kind. He said "pick him up". It just doesn't work that way. Haven't you ever heard of the 4th amendment???
""The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized."
Without a specific "no knock"warrant, signed by a judge, all they can legally do is knock on his door and ask him to come out. And I'm pretty sure his friend has a nice lawsuit for illegal arrest and detainment. He wasn't wanted for anything.
Even in Houston the criminal pigs have to at least lie to a judge and get a no knock warrant before they break in and murder people.
@@exilfromsanity There are many law and order episodes in which there are legal repercussions for warrant-related issues. Just because they don't specifically discuss the warrant doesn't meant they didn't get one, any more than the fact that they don't specifically discuss the evidence with the DA every single time means they weren't involved. Not every episode has every specific aspect of the investigation, largely for pacing reasons.
Seems like a terrible attorney letting him answer those questions
Can you post clips from seasons 2-5
Fortunately for today's unfortunate souls, there are plenty of countries that will help send you to the afterlife.
If you have the money. And usually not because you just don't want to life in this society anymore.
Kraken. The coolest badass of them all. Loved him in SVU
Why did Florek leave Law and order after a few seasons?
Cragen.
@@JudaMetalMaiden I believe there were viewer complaints that there were no females in the main cast. So the producers brought them in for the fourth season, but for that to happen, they had to let go of Florek and Richard Brooks. It was a shocker and devastating to me because they're great actors, but I got over it.
@@johndrake2729 that's true now that you mention it i remember something about not enough females on show
@@johndrake2729hat was dumb too much testosterone I guess; where did you find that at?
Watching this episode right now.
Where can I watch full episodes
Guy looks like Christopher Eccleston and Tom Hardy in one
Doesnt sound like assisted suicide. More like insurance fraud
LMAO @ "Fax you"
Isn't the guy who helped with the suicide from grease?
Yessss from grease 2!
Dr.Death
You have a son
1:14 LOL
Hey , did everyone know who betrayed Stone?
doesnt really matter, Assisted suicide is still murder 2, man 1 with a plea deal. even if assisted suicide becomes legal in the future, doing so with a weapon and then staging the scene will still be at minimum Man 1
who decided to bring the whole SWAT team?
This show was much better written back in the day…
I BELIEVE HIM...
1:13 lmaooooo
GUILTY. As charged !
4:12 😂😂😂😂😂
I mean. How rude.
One of the few kinds of suicide i can agree with
And why did they need the battalion to make the bust?
They thought they were dealing with a guy who was going state to state blowing people's heads off with a shotgun. Not exactly a "heat of the moment" killing as far as they saw it.
@@Treblaine Gotcha.
What I always loved is the guys breaking down the door are wearing riot gear. Yet the detectives who go through the door have no protection at all. Oops!
@@grf15 You should see the guys in Chicago P.D.!
Logan and his plaid ties
Looks like Involuntary Manslaughter to me.
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By making opioids so difficult to obtain legally, we can thank the CDC and the DEA for driving thousands of pain patients to commit suicide rather than live and die in agony. Not every disorder can be treated. Not every broken body can be healed. Some of us are facing a lifetime of suffering and disability due to diseases and accidents that we did not cause or invite!
Hey, what happened with Magic Johnson?
me my fan law order season 1 today yourself today
i call bull. if what he said was true, the victims should at least left him signed notes that he's innocent, that he was just helping....
"N😡W‼️" - 4:12
I see why they switch characters throughout the seasons, thank god 👍🏿
Another example of the characters on this show being CARICATURES.
You again timmy?
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Fk your caricatures.