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Over here in Europe the General is about $26.99 - 29.99), close to the -24 KT Grace at around $27. Here the Calvin glow destroyer was first $44.90 and the Ohn Halo Champ Destroyer around 39.99. But it's now possible to get the Calvin destroyer for about $32.90 (and Ohn's for 27.90), but even now the Calvin Destroyers are at least $5 more than a General over here.
Wich store? Because Calvin halos used to cost 499 sek and now 449 sek were i buy disc.(499 ~46 USD) and The sockibomb General is only 299.
Sounds like the difference for everyone could be variable import costs passed on to consumers? Lat64 is manufacturing a bunch of DD discs in EU, right? Whereas Innova is on the other side of the Atlantic
Calvin destroyer is $21 in the US.
@@Nale72 can definitely see that as a big reason I honestly hadn’t thought much about because even though DD now likely has all their manufacturing in Sweden they’re still portrayed as the American brand (or at least that’s the association I make still). It is just odd then that the Kristin discs here in the states are still only $28-$29 still expensive but not quite general pricing
where are you getting ohns for 27? and calvin glow destroyer for 33?
I refuse to spend over $30 for a disc from the manufacture. If we pay that amount, the manufactures move the mark and that becomes the norm. If we don't pay that amount, it sends a message to manufactures that we aren't willing to pay that much. Disc golf is a cheaper sport than ball golf. If they continue to raise prices like they have been, they will continue raising the barrier for entry which creates stagnate growth.
U cant get halo for under that i other countrys than USA.
I payed $35 a couple years ago for a custom stamped Felon with my company's logo on it. It's freaking sweet
@@fillei That's the thing though. That is the going rate in other countries. Here in the US, no other standard disc is over $30. With many manufactures, you can get any disc in premium plastic for $20. You can't compare the prices in another country to say that the price is normal in the US.
Trilogy prices have been on a steady increase since they were bought out. I used to use mainly DD and Lat 64, because for the money, I didn't think anyone offered as nice of a disc. They also offered free shipping over $25 and a points system that basically gave you money back on orders. The free shipping amount went up to $75, Disc prices skyrocketed. I used to buy base plastic Wardens for $11 on the site. Now they are $16. Premium plastic is anywhere from $22-30.
I've been buying MVP. Pretty much any premium disc I want for less than $20. The only exceptions are signature discs, but there are typically non signature versions available, the only difference is the stamp.
@@prattacaster Custom discs are different in my opinion. More work goes into it, so paying a premium is understandable. When a disc manufacture is mass producing discs though, does the general cost more to make than the other discs that they sell?
Bro I bowled for 12 years, equipment was like 150$ a ball and I had 9 I carried with me to tournaments. My whole disc golf bag is like 2 high performance bowling balls, you don’t have any perspective as to how cheap this sport is and why you are whining about nothing because that’s how your boomer parents talked about money
6:08 ayo?
NAH I WAS JUST ABOUT TO COMMENT THIS😂😂
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@@Lime-ct7ux the s was SUBTLE 😂😂🙈🙈
@@BodanzaDiscGolf sounds like the D was subtle 😆
I call em dicks all the time anyway 🤣🤣🤣
I got one of these with my AM payout at a local c tier. It actually felt so much better in the hand than I was expecting. Too similar to other stuff in my bag so I don’t have it in the bag at the moment. But it’ll probably be in there at some point.
Perfect timing for a 2 am snack
bro fr. lol
Find a domey enforcer. Same disc
Found your channel today and I love your videos they’re fire
thank you so much!!
Pretty surprised you didn't throw a rive in there for comparison.
It's not comparable. It's a higher glide, higherspeed and less overstable...
@@durtydan420 Ricky replaced all his Rives with Generals so I'd say it's perfectly comparable. Pretty sure he only throws Generals and Enforcers for distance drivers now.
@@durtydan420it for sure is. Stock rives are flippier than generals, but you can easily find rives that are similarly overstable. Rives are 1 millimeter wider rim, but is closer to a 12-speed than other manufacturers 13-speeds.
My orbit rive is a tiny tiny bit less OS than my friends brand new general, but my rive is 6-months used. The glide number difference is pretty much the only thing you can argue is different, but we all know the glide stat is bollocks anyway.
One thing to factor in to disc pricing is that molds are CRAZY expensive to machine/manufacture. So the sales of a given disc have to offset the cost of making the mold. The reality is a KT Grace will sell WAYYYY more than the General just simply because the Grace is a crazy popular disc that is suitable for a range of arm speeds. The General on the other hand…. Beef. It’s not going to sell in similar quantities because it’s too beefy. So they have to build the lower sales projections into the price of the disc to make sure it pays for itself (and hopefully eeks out some profit too).
Companies should use Tech disc or similar technology when testing their discs and coming up with flight numbers. They should also tell the consumer the plastic, weight and domeynes of the disc they used during flight tests to get flight numbers.
When it comes to flight numbers companies should tell us at what speed and spin the disc was thrown at in order to get those numbers.
My experience with trilogy is that everything feels less stable than what I would expect compared to other manufacturers I’ve thrown.
I had a Royal Grand Rive that broke in really fast and was way flippier than my star destroyer, and I have a lucid trespass that’s super understable. I have a beaten in fusion felon that’s a hyzer flip disc now, and currently am throwing a lucid felon that’s breaking in fast and one of my favorite discs. All these are max weight, too.
Brother try and get that forehand release more smooth, almost every time in the last couple videos it comes out pretty wobbly!! Love the content keep it up
If it fades then it is Overstable for that thrower. If it goes straight that’s stable and if it turns when thrown flat than it’s understable.
I live in Newfoundland. There are no DG specific shops here so everything is shipped. And in Canadian dollars. If I could get any premium disc for less than $35 bucks, its a win. Usually above $40 per disc as an average.
Do you order from disc republic ?
Yes 35$ for premium discs is normal in Canada.
Same I order from disc republic. I’ve lost 3 $40 discs this year so far due to the crazy long and thick weed growth.
That late baseline you got playing man that's sick
Oh ya, love me a late night Bodanza upload! Loving all the vids man
Such a shame that you didn’t manage to get the new PD2 in there considering it has the exact same numbers as the General.. Also, a fresh Rive would have been nice as well considering I get the feeling that the General has replaced the Rive in Ricky’s bag.
Perhaps a follow up to this video including those in the future?
Need your face on some Halo Emperors Bodanza
would love that! they are out of stock rn on infinite so not even able to do customs but when they get back I hope to do some fun stuff!
@@BodanzaDiscGolf I will be purchasing
Fun round to watch man.
Love a round at badlands, but so many hills and teepads.
Def not getting a $30 disc. But looking forward to the new Bodanza stamp
I'm not sure it's priced as it is because they don't think they're going to get a positive ROI. It's because they believe people will pay that based on other Sokibomb sales numbers.
You throw it great. I agree though, a new brand w/elite discs reflected by premium pricing makes the most sense. Pretty sure I couldn't get one of those over 350 ft. So... not a disc for me. Thanks for the fun review video.
I’m guessing that the lower rim depth of the General at 1.1 compared to Emperors and Destoyers 1.2cm is one reason what causes a more comfortable feel for you. Is the general less domey that the Emperor and General?
DD has a disc already close to those numbers for the General; the Enforcer (12 4 0.5 4). How would you rate it compared to that, or even the Defender?
Most enforcers are a bit more stable and have a little less glide. But if you find a glidier run of enforcers, its basically the same disc
I was super suprised in the ab venom! I only throw 320 amd the venom suprisingly stayed dead strait with about a 2 fade at the end. It only went about 285 but i expected it to be waaay more overstable!
You should have put a discmania PD2 in there to compare
Conquer is the Same mold
@kyle0588 yeah I know I was talking about the new one. I think it was really because I wanted to see the old vs new hahaha
Calvin destroyer is 45 USD and General is 30 USD in Sweden. Let's talk about it. Transport/import/export costs. Greedflation might be real doe.
The vast majority of disc golfers can’t throw the General as Ricky does. So it’s cool to look at different ways it can be used.
I would love to see you throw a Recoil vs. this when its beat up a bit (Lat64 12,4,0,3), up to 350' they behave; straight for 80% of the flight and a fade gliding out very much sideways. Got one in older Opto, very nice rounded feeling.
honestly the general is very stable I just think it has more glide than most drivers with that stability. the felons in that plastic are the same way way more glide than most felons but still overstable.
I understand as plastics improve and the production becomes better that costs will increase. I’m fine with it as long as they’re being reasonable.
There’s nothing stopping us from buying a base plastic or mid quality plastic. But if you really want the top of the line it’s gonna cost more.
I will say I paid almost the same for the sphinx at AR. Definitely worth every penny tho.
@@OnlyBandzzzDG dang yeah idk what shops are doing with their pricing, I try to talk in terms of manufacturer or infinite prices. Thanks so much for the support there!!
You are seriously an amazing content creator. You have so much knowledge to give and I appreciate it, we all do.
So a few weeks ago I was in another round in salt lake, the owner was in there and I was talking with him about the general. He had them in the shop for at least a month or two and said he had sold 2 and that he’s not allowed to sell them for less than $34. The other scary thing he said… dynamic discs had only sold 37 units of new discs in the time he’s been open which was a couple months. In that same time frame he was 1200+ in Discraft. The jawbreaker Z FLX discs flew off the shelves when he stocked it and it was priced at $23. I think DD has some image issues and venture capitalists at house of discs are ruining them.
I get that Discraft is selling way better, but the "image issue" is weird for me (Swedish living in Sweden), I have yet to see anything different than peoples opinion of the same owners as beore + some folks (venture capitalists seeing a growth in the company) with extra money added in the board of House of Discs. Most in higher positions have stuck around and been part of making the whole thing happen :S
Seems very similar to a kastaplast krut 🤔
A bit funny about this focus on price. Several others have commented, but i made an order yesterday - making it a bit more “funny”…
I have never before seen the Bodanza signature discs here in Norway. I had not bothered to order from overseas either.
So, when I found a Norwegian shop yesterday- that actually had the AB Scepter - I ordered a couple. You know, to support one of my favourite content creators. The price for this disc, here in Norway? 339 NOK, or 31 USD…
The same shop sells the general for 269 NOK - 24.6 USD…
So - I guess i shouldn’t have bought the expensive, over 30 $ disc… It can’t be worth it?
Just found that to be a bit funny, and fitting, since I ordered it yesterday - and saw your video now 😂 nice coincidence 😉
@@kimeinvik 😂 yeah that is a bit funny! Thanks for the support, ig the price talk is more about manufacturer pricing, and I didn’t even think the European market for general could be cheaper since DD is ostensibly and American company but it makes sense since they’re likely manufacturing in Europe!
It’s also a bit diff bc the general is the only stock way to get the disc and there are cheaper ways to get sphinx but retailers will have diff pricing as is, appreciate the support so much. These comments def gave me a lot to think about which is cooln
@@BodanzaDiscGolf looking forward to throwing the scepter - and have no issues with the price. Understanding the little extra going to the player. Only nice to be able to support as it haven’t been too easy from here.
And the scepter looks much nicer 😉
@@kimeinvik is it a scepter or sphinx? I haven’t run scepters yet I dont think 😂 either way thanks so much
@@BodanzaDiscGolf sorry 🫣 Sphinx 😃
@@kimeinvik haha I was just hoping you didn’t get scammed haha
If you like that rim feel, check out those "protoflyte" discs that are made via cnc lathe if you haven't already. They make some with inverted rims.
how could one standardize flight numbers because pros and ams have different arm speeds. Even the top pros and lower end pros have different arm speeds. Seems like it would be a challenge, but I would love to see it for sure
The general costs around $25 (at regular price) in Norway - where most things are quite expencive. So the profit margin is probably a little lower, but don’t seem like DD minds.
I would have liked to seen how it flew against the Krut since they’re both produced by HOD. I throw a Krut & it’s not as overstable as its numbers
I feel like it would sell a lot easier if it were more universally usable (like the sockibomb slammer). But the price point is interesting since it isn't for everyone
My buddy just got a Paige Pierce Drive, it was $45. This shit's getting nuts.
Where? They're $20-23 all over google in the USA.
@@BigJuice77 our local shop. It's a fancy glow jawbreaker run, not a standard. Should have mentioned that!
@@HonduDan oh gotcha. The most I’ve ever spent on a disc was $40, and that was a collector disc
@@BigJuice77 I know, I've bought more in the last two years than ever before in my 25 years if playing. Prices seem a little higher than years ago, it's just the one off special editions that are so high. I wanted a Calvin Groove, just to have it, but I'm not paying 28 bucks for a disc. That's wild Ricky wants 33 for a stock General.
I really like Ricky but im not paying that amount for a disc. Thats beside the fact that its not really needed for an average player. It really does well for Rick though. If you're watching his practice rounds he throws them on nearly every long drive and carries 4 or 5 of them.
30 bucks is wild for what many manufacturers offer for half the price
Nice to actually see you play upper instead of your giant safari course that with my 250 max throw I will never do
Loving the smooth jazz in the background. Hahaha
How do you think it would compare to a Clash Pepper (11 5 0 4) or a Clash Spice (10 4 0 4)?
For me, the most controversial disc is Loft Neon.
I backed the kick starter in March. They met their goal and sponsorship ended March 31.
The disc was to arrive in April.
It hasn’t shipped yet😡
I would say you’re paying more for the Sockibomb general because your money goes to pay his pay check, and import costs.
Would love to see a collab with ricky when you get back to TOURING.
Helicopter rides ain't cheap, yo.
I played with a guy that had a green and white general. That thing was a certified beeeeeef cake. Definitely all of 4/0/4
These videos would benefit so much from a tech disc. Hard to know how much of the variance is due to disc and how much did to small variances in speed, nose angle, hyzer, etc.
@@TheRedsMan11 TechDisc is just attached to one disc so it wouldn’t be able to be put on the discs. I did reach out to a company that makes something somewhat similar that can move to see about using that
This is why I stick to one brand. I know how the discs fly compared to the flight numbers, every brand is different with numbers. Trilogy runs more under stable
6:04 - this is why I hated DD and Latitude as a guy who threw mostly Innova - while their plastic felt good, their flight ratings were so off, and flew nothing like what the Innova numbers would. Westside is even worse. That also made my switch to Lone Star a little challenging, because most of Lone Star's drivers are much more overstable than their flight ratings. I think companies should crowd source their flight ratings by sending out prototypes to a sample of players who are to compare it to discs they already own, and then you can vote on it. It's probably only hurting dynamic that people pick up their discs and they fly much flippier than they should.
I say this as a guy who throws all innova right now... Ive tried every company's discs pretty much. Even Innova has problems with discs not doing what the numbers say. I bag 6 destroyers and still never know if one might be weirdly understable or perfect off the rack. I just recently bought a stock champ savant, and it's basically a firebird. Innova isnt perfect either man
@@austinmeade7150 I never said they were perfect - their inconsistencies come down to plastic and runs more than anything. However, trilogy molds, as a rule, are flippier than their numbers suggest. Maybe you can knock Innova for being more inconsistent, but I heard that Drew Gibson left DD back in the day because their discs were too flippy. Innova is the industry standard, and you don't see Innova pros throwing their PD2s or Excaliburs on the long lines. Instead, they use Destroyers. That should say at least something about Innova and Trilogy's flight ratings.
Not gonna lie, I've always understood why Clash is a bit more expensive, but I can't wrap that thought around this disc. Also just frame by framed one of your tee shots to see what I could learn. Your elbow hyper extended on your reachback...is that normal?
I do it but I would not recommend it nor do I mean to. It doesn't seem to hurt me atm, but it's one thing I will be fixing when I have time
I do def recommend looking at other people's forms over mine atm :)
so close to 40K subscribers!
The only DD disc I bagged was the Justice. Now that the Discraft Swarm is out and a much better tool for me, I dont have any interest in DD. Ricky is a great player but when your sponser is purposely pricing discs to NOT sell, it does make you wonder why they would do that.
Would be good to compare it to dynamics enforcer, almost the same numbers.
i wish you had plasma photon.. i feel like it has a more similar flight to it . HOWEVER.. standardization NEEDS to happen for the sport to be taken actually serious.. I know simon was talking about that. theres 0 reason manufacturers cant have a robot throw a disc at different speeds.. No i dont expect them to test every run.. but at least different plastics. I wanted the general as my photon but you're out of your mind if you think i'm spending 30+ when 90% of my bag is remix or second run stuff unless i'm sponsored theres 0 benefit for me to spend that much money as an ma3 player (at best) / mostly rec.
i bought 1 disc that was 30+ and that was an AB glow teebird 3 and i lost it .. sport stops being fun when you're losing things randomly at 30$ a pop when part of the draw is low cost of entry vs some other sports
would have been cool to see against the xcalibur
I get that they are expensive but it’s far and away my favorite disc and have found no other discs that fly the same
How does it compare to a destroyer?
Keep up the good work bro!
Why would you not compare to Enforcer, PD2, Juggernaut and SLAB? those are all much closer and would have been more interesting to seen compared.
@@cheesebamp bc the general flies like the discs I threw not those beefier ones
Your "painful" honesty is so great.
there are many discs in stock runs that fly similar. Enforcer, PD2, Force, X-caliber... the list goes on. And the flight numbers don't matter. It's all a plastic lottery.
Pro models are for suckers.
have you been to Interlocken dgc? only a 9 hole but is pretty fun.
yeah I've played there a lot! Not too much on the channel but a few videos!
If you think a top 5 Pro Disc golfer should get paid at least 100,000 then buy his disc. If not don’t. If you think Garret Gurthie or Anthony Bodanza should be able to make a full time living off of a disc golf career than buy their discs. If you don’t care about People making money off of playing disc golf or testing and promoting discs then just by the disc with no name on it.
When I lower supposed to reopen? I played Upper Badlands for the first time yesterday with my work buddy and his brother.
11 holes are in right now at lower. But missing the full course big time.
If I sent you a form video would you consider doing a video where you compare it to yours (what Drew Gibson taught you?). Kinda a wild ask but It would really love help it!
not right now, I still have a lot to learn and many scattered thoughts to make cohesive. Maybe in a year or two I'll do form reviews
Fair! Well I’ll reach out then brother.
that forehand wobble is unreal lol do some fieldwork brother
Thoughts on Ricky general vs enforcer?
Beware the general ... Great song.
Why no PD2 to compare :(
Remember guys they will charge what the market will bare so if you hate the price please dont buy it
6:09 You really like what? More power to you though!
100% done with House of Discs and their pricing. I might support a pro of theirs, but when you can support a pro from other companies for $25, why buy a “stock” for $30+?
I can throw into 1st available with $16 disc.
i’m about to start buying golf clubs forget disc golf if it’s costing this much
it’s 3 am but i must watch
Compare it to the Trespass. It seems to fly like a more stable Trespass.
@@AppleseedVaj definitely a good bit more OS than the most stable trespass
@@BodanzaDiscGolf I just remembered. They have the Enforcer in their line up with the same flight numbers. How is the General compared to that?
@@AppleseedVaj less overstable than some enforcers more os than others. Typically it’s a less overstable mold but there have been so many plastics if enforcer so it’s a bit inconsistent
Going to be baby Town frolics in your home soon❤ I can see it in your eyes, you're getting close.
Thanks!
@@quitthecircuit thank you 😊
@@BodanzaDiscGolf lol. This was a butt donation. Which feels fitting for your butt stamp discs. I'll take this opportunity to request drawing the flight lines for your throws. I assume this is incredibly time consuming. But even if it was only once to help us see the full flight I would be grateful for the times where I can't stare at the screen! Congrats on the family upgrade!
How about a force
The old venum run is 12-4-0-4.
It was completely retooled so the numbers are different.
Right. I was going to say he could snag one and compare it. I picked a couple up new online for $9 each.
Excalibur would have been better
6:08 enunciate, my man
Price point is high becuse of same reason Calvins Destroyers are more expensive than stock Halo Destroyers ;)
I guess but Calvin's destroyers are 22.99 on Innova's site. a $10 difference is a LOT
@@BodanzaDiscGolf yeah in US, look outside US, in Sweden for example the Calvin Destroyer is much more expensive than the General.
No pd2!?
6:10 😏😏😏 ya really like that… do ya?
Infinite might be $2 cheaper, but I’d rather pay $2 more and get it quicker from 1010….. infinite is notoriously slow to ship stuff
venom is 12 speed, not 13 like you said 1:58
look at the stamp of the disc
If you look on Infinite’s website the Venom has the same rim width as your typical 12 speed like the Destroyer
@@BodanzaDiscGolf hm okay, infinite has it as 12 on their site. And the width is more consistent with 12 🤷♂
@@josiahmhowardit’s pretty much a 12 speed. They just didn’t want to release a disc with the same numbers as a force
No pd2?
Nevermind I see the conqueror
No juggernaut?
@@beastmodegym4170 wayyyy beefier
@@BodanzaDiscGolf but I wanted to see it 😞 a proper 12-4-0-4 not this bs that people put out to make them feel strong for flipping a “utility driver”.
30$ a disc lmao your gonna push the sport back into the dirt .. i would never even pick that up in a store .. i might as well go play a real round of ball golf
no body likes ricky that much lmao simon is like the lebron of disc golf and i wouldn’t even pay it for simon
Simon is much more like Shaq. Ricky is the obvious Lebron comparison, long successful career, perennial contender, last remaining of the old guard.
False. I do. Ricky is the freaking man
Dynamic Discs are too trash to have that price tag.
I cant understand half of what you say because you talk way too fast
waste of money tbh
Looks and sounds like a passion