My paraplegic uncle committed suicide in April 2021 after months of begging for some relief. His doctor accused him of being a drug seeker because he wasn't given enough to actually help him. That man never took pain meds until his 60s. He was 70 when he passed. The neglect his doctor showed is unforgivable & inexcusable. Period. Doctors, stop treating every single person in pain like they're drug addicts! Just stop. Not treating pain is literally killing your patients.
How awful! Yes, people die of overdoses, but people such as your uncle are dying too, dying for relief instead of doctors giving them relief. This has got to stop! I'm so very sorry for your loss, and that your uncle had to resort to this.
I get it. I don't want to die but understand why your uncle did it. Now fortunately getting relief with CBD oil prescribed by registered provider, discounts due to age / disability pension on meds and consultation in Australia
It has increased suicides, as you have experienced. I’m sorry your Uncle didn’t get the needed pain meds. It would perhaps turn things around if this was fought thru the courts. Idk It is actual Torture of patients….anyone know of a way to get this noticed by anyone in power who cares??
My Dr asked if I've gone to a pill mill yet. Apparently they'd rather you do that. Trigeminal Neuralgia is a b!+¢#!! No one should have to go thru that type of pain. It is literally called "suicide disease".
Personally I feel that the medical system is failing people whom actually have pain. They are no longer getting treated properly, they are suffering pain because the doctors refuse to prescribe pills that may have addiction. It's sad, we have tools to help yet we force them to suffer. I'm speaking for myself. I have a really messed up back and have had neck surgery and injections and radio ablation and yet I am destined to simply suffer because they are preventing me from a possible addiction. I swear I feel like a class action needs to fix this. If I am ok with the risks and know the side effects and decide that I will take a pill during the morning to start work, and another at night to sleep the doctors should do their jobs not condem me to miserable pain. You want to know what is depressing? Try being in pain all your life and being treated like a drug addict for asking for pain pills.
I'm right there with you. I'm in enough pain for surgery to fuse joints, but not enough to get any pain medication. so I can't even pretend to walk like a normal person anymore.
The problem comes when they treat everyone the same. Everyone is not the same and we do not all have addictive issues. My husband had open heart surgery. They sent him home drugged up on morphine five days later and told him to take Tylenol and do his breathing exercises. Next morning he could barely breathe from pain, let alone use the exercise tube. I called and they told me had to come in to the office. This was 6 days after open heart surgery. I freaked out on them bad. I ended up contacting the patient advocate counselor and she was furious and read them the riot act. She said he could have had heart failure from lack of oxygen on a healing heart. Within an hour, we had the pain meds he needed delivered to our door. It's gotten insane.
You need to find a true pain doctor. I go to one that will prescribe whatever you need as long as you’re in real pain of course which sounds like you are. If you want to message me, I would be happy to share who my doctor is with you privately
Couldn't agree more. Being left to suffer like this while practically begging for help is inhumane. If we had pets and made them go without anything to ease their suffering we would be charged with animal cruelty and neglect and would be prohibited from ever even having a goldfish the rest of our lives. What do they get for allowing people asking for help to suffer? A pat on the back and told "Great job, you'll run this place someday"
It is so sad their are so many suffering because of people who take advantage. I have Fibromyalgia when it is real bad I take Devil's claw. For depression and anxiety, sleeping problems I will take Passion flower. We have to take it into our own hands the doctors aren't helping. Boswella is another Herb that helps with pain. It's always wise to do research to see if the Herb does not mix with whatever medicine you are taking. I have chosen not to take any conventional medication to only take herbs just to be safe but some people can't do that.
It's maddening. Meanwhile you're condemned to live with debilitating anxiety, pain, inability to focus etc. And then you see all of the random people who seem to be doing better than you who are being treated with the meds you know have helped you and they just sell them etc. Then you're forced to try to find alternatives and they throw ssris snris and gabapentin etc. Making you gain more weight than you've ever carried in your life. It's made me attempt suicide 3 times. The system is broken and they're painting everyone into a corner of having to get things illicitly or nip it all in the bud and end it all because you can't take it.
@@dalemuzingo799 I can tell you. You start all over with these arrogant brainwashed know it all doctors. I waited 3 months to get in to see a new doctor and the asshole told me he doesn't prescribe tramadol. Tramadol, can you believe it. They treat it like it was herion.
You are EXTREMELY fortunate. I was cut off after over 30 years of opioid prescribing in 2016 when the CDC went overboard in the other direction. Studies have now shown that the Opioid crisis wan’t coming from patients prescribed these meds but from street drugs and imported synthetic opioids. A lot of good that does the rest of us at this point.
@@dalemuzingo799 , Yes, anyone suffering a Life destroying Severe Chronic Pain Illness (even if illegally caused by strangers/company, they count, not us citizens), this Ruling System of hell/united-states-country will stop, prevent in someway, or even destroy whatever was working to ease our Severe Chronic Pain Illness (whatever it is helping to finally be at least somewhat of a Life, as Opiate Plant Medicine was for so many of us people with a Severe Chronic Pain Illness, but the demons- this System/u.s.-government/hell/united states country/earth, being all the demonic same, will surely destroy/end-it in one way or another- what helps us people with Severe Chronic Pain illnesses, and to keep us suffering daily, constantly, suffering Life ruining Pain for decades until death- to be NO Life, and once we die this hell/united-states-country, where demons Rule us, just plays over again, and again, and again, and... (this comment here above is NOT at all a joke, just the opposite, this is a True level of hell, as this inhumane wicked e^il has been done for so long by these demons here. all of it so negative wrong, plus all the time with Pain we are made to suffer for nothing [ also believe now the Opiate Medicine which works, was done to taunt us more- the demons allowed Opiate Medicine for a bit, but it was only done to show us there is Plant Medicine which DOES WORK, also anyone knowing the Truth about Opiate Medicine, can see the negatively lie about Opiate Medicine to do the inhumane wicked e^il they do to we people with Severe Chronic Pain illnesses for nothing. showed us Opiate Medicine works, we could at least have somewhat of a Life, but nope this is hell, demons took it from us- calling even we Severe Chronic Pain Illness people drug addicts who did nothing wrong, and punished us for the drug addicts. being all part of this inhumane wicked e^il united-states-country/hell though take it from us of course to suffer on- also now knowing that Opiate Medicine does work for a lot of types of Severe Chronic Pain Illnesses, but we are NOT going to get what works- to just suffer on here in hell/united-states-country/earth/North America, whatever name used this is all the same hell, also proof of the demons with all the huge lies they use- being a tribute to their boss/king/god- Lucifer/Satan/Beelzebub, etc. yes this entire place must be a hell, possibly is hell its self, and maybe when we die the hell is different- but the hell is always a hell with these demons- who torture-torment us in one way or another, as this is actually hell. the burning is at the top of my spine all the time since I was first here [ even what I remember prior to being 18 years old where it was nice, is just a dream- another part of the torture-tormenting done in this hell/united-states-country, a faint memory of a nice place like a tease [ also my severe head injury being all part of this evil tease, tricks, lies, Pain, done on & by this hell/united-states-country- all of this here, with the demons who do this to us, and will increase what they do- by calling me a- "drug addict who just wants more of that awful, monstrous, e^il killing Opiate Medicine [ all of it complete lying tricks of inhumane wicked e^il, and how the demons in power do all of this inhumane wicked e^il to people with Severe Chronic Pain Illnesses in this hell/united-states-country/earth/North-America, etc. ], exactly how this True- inhumane wicked e^il of demons hell/united-states-country does this inhumane wicked e^il to we people- being Severe Chronic Pain Illness must be a part of this True North-America/united-states-country/hell/earth, etc.- i.e. being this is Truly a earth/united-states-country/North-America/hell, etc. ], and each time we die, the burning will be done in some other way, but this True place of a hell/earth/united-states-country, with demons Ruling over us- who torture-torment us- will all just happen again in some other way, or maybe the same hell again, but all of this Truly being this- UNITED-STATES-Country/hell/earth, etc., either way- same hell/united-states-country/earth, etc., or a different united-states-country/earth/hell, etc. ])
This! I don't go to the ER for extreme pain because it is useless, even when I was standing in my bedroom screeching from the pain I did not go. When I spent a day and a half feeling like an ice pick was being constantly thrust through my leg time after time after time I did not go. I knew I wouldn't get treated because of that one person.
💯. I’ve been a pain patient since 2009. It sucks & id have to he literally dying to go in the ER & say I’m in pain. I can’t take my current pain & fell yesterday…thinking my finger is broken & had to go to urgent care. It’s nuts drs thinks cuz we take pain meds every day…we have NO pain in an acute situation. Thank goodness it’s not broken, but my leg is black & blue & I can’t move my thumb/hand. It’s swollen twice the size today. Ya can’t keep Ice on it 24/7-cuz of tissue injury
My sister was on the ER floor blacking out from pain in between what was described as primal screams. Because the nurses and doctors thought she was drug seeking, they mocked her and left her there. She doesn’t drink, do drugs, nothing, she’s a principal of a school. She had severe ovarian torsion. There has to be a better way. Even if she was drug seeking, no one deserves to be treated like that. It’s very sad, I really feel for people with chronic pain conditions.
Oh heck! Ovarian torsion is BADDDDD! BAD painful too. Never had it happen, but as a nurse I'd be loading her up (safely) on pain meds if I could prescribe. Poor thing!
My god. Women can get that too? I read up on testicular torsion a while back - for reasons I will choose to omit. I had no idea. I'm terribly sorry she had to go through that.
I am sorry to say this...I woukd have recorded her. Also written down the staff or doctor comments or described the eye rolling or unsympathetic looks. Then I would have found a journalist, newscaster, or attorney.
Women's health issues are mostly ignored or dismissed if you go in. Ovarian torsion=immediate surgery. It's very painful and if they knew where the pain was they could have gad tge gyno on-call ti see her vs the poor treatment she got
I was on Norco for three years for chronic pain. I NEVER took more than prescribed, (never even took the total daily dose, I broke them in half). I never needed a script early, and never asked for anything stronger. I ALWAYS had medication left over at the end of the month. I only took them when I really needed it. Then my doctor told me, after almost 3 years, that some study showed that narcotics do not work for my kind of pain (fibro), so she wasn't giving me any more. I told her, "But it's worked for 3 years." She said, "Well, the study shows different so no more." How ignorant can you get? Now, it's like pulling teeth to even get my doctor to acknowledge my pain exists, much less get it treated. How they treat chronic pain patients is nothing short of state-sponsored long-term torture, and it's pure evil.
Yes, this is a common line that Doctors or GPs come out with when explaining that they are going to withdraw your controlled or restricted medicines. My doc did this for the 15 x half strength diazepam tablets I would ask for once every two or three months if I couldn't move from lower back muscle spasms. If your doctor says something about a new study, ASK THEM FOR A COPY OR A LINK TO THE STUDY THEY ARE REFERRING TO. If they start stammering, you can also say, 'I'm actually a reasonably intelligent person, and could most likely read and understand said study or citation. You'll probably begin to realise that it's a load of bollocks. My doc said, 'there's new studies that say not to prescribe diazepam for back pain as it doesn't work' - to which I replied, 'diazepam doesn't work for treating muscle spasms?' then I had the stammering. Still didn't get them though. It's ridiculous sometimes... I'm not going to inject them into my eyeballs, or swap them for some crack 😔
I feel you, they say it doesn't help for fibromyalgia, but yes it does. How the F@ck would they know. Do they suffer with it everyday? No! We do. Screw those studies. My mom opened the first GCRC @ John's Hopkins Hospital from Aids to everything you can imagine as far as research, my Dr said taking Tylenol and ibuprofen isn't good for fibro, and since I have to cyst on my kidney and I have 2 other autoimmune diseases these Dr's don't car anymore. I'm sick of it. They think they will get sued if they give us the amount we need, but when we die, they will get sued for that too. My bp is between 185-200 systolic and 110-135 diastolic daily, yes I have hypertension, but the pain makes it worse. I've given up. I just lay in bed all day, I can't eat, I have no life. 😔 😔 😢 😢
Especially when there's literal tons of opiates in the street of every state of the union, it's the easiest thing in the world to get, just not the safe and legal way.
@hastyhillfarmand4x480 in states where cannabis is still illegal, it is literally easier to get fentanyl than weed. The CDC opioid guidelines (which aren't even technically mandatory, BTW) created this new market. Leave it to government to "fix" a problem by making it substantially worse.
Having oxycodone for my back has literally saved my life. I had back surgery exactly one year ago and this really helped, but being on oxycodone allows me to have a semi-regular life. Instead of being in bed all day with pain, I can go to the gym and do some weight training, do some activities with my family etc. It is wrong to make wide across-the-board decisions on narcotics and each person must be evaluated individually. Legislators negating narcotics accros-the-board are causing IMMENSE SUFFERING
Let the Dr's figure out what pain drug is appropriate in a clinical situation Not Legislators. Legislators need to write laws that address people who abuse prescription and non prescription drugs. Already enough laws on the books that do Nothing to access the drug problem in the US.
@@dand3975 Agreed 100%. Those legislators that vote to ban opioids and who restrict prescription by doctors better pray to God that their health will remain good for the rest of their lives. Because they will learn very quickly how important to their well-being they can become. Life can sometimes play you very ironic tricks Mr Congressman and Mrs Congresswoman. Don’t be so arrogant.
@@PatrickBateman191 Well I read something somewhere that Congress has a drive up pharmacy. So don't think the "haves" live under the same rules as the "have nots".
Surely you didn't say take Tylenol 3 and do yoga and you'll be ok? If you can't bend and twist your body due to excruciating pain, that's not going to be a solution for them. The best solution is, give the opoids. Give adults what they need manage their lives. Trust that they have the life experiences and common sense to safely manage their pain. If a Dr sees they don't have sense enough to do it, then wean them off. One thing I am certain of: There is no quality of life when you're forced to live in pain 24/7. NONE.
Why should I be punished for the misdoings of others when I am a chronic pain patient who requires opiates despite being the “good” chronic pain patient??…I take my medications exactly as prescribed, have 2 spinal cord stimulators, I’ve tried all the alternatives, and am allergic to all nerve medications. If you have a heart condition, diabetes, etc. you aren’t judged for needing certain meds to survive. I have CRPS…nicknamed the Suicide Disease for the pain it causes…it causes your nerves to burn you alive. It turned me into a below knee amputee last year by burning off my foot/lower leg and has taken over most of my body. Opiates are the medication I need to survive each day, and I hate feeling judged because the only medication that keeps me alive is being demonized because of those who have misused it. You can’t judge the person using this pain management tool unless you are in their shoes…or shoe in my case. I believe that anyone judging a chronic pain patient for using opiates should be forced to live in their body for a week with nothing but over the counter meds and the “warm and fuzzy” alternatives like deep breathing and meditation. People do not “get it” until you live it #chronicpainkills
I am 57 and was diagnosed with the same RSD when I was 30. The pain has been immense. The judgement I received and to this day still receive are from family and a close friend. Guess who aren't apart of my life anymore??!!!. The incredible stress that I was under magnified my pain even further still they were gone. My daughter and two young granddaughters,7 and 2 were major in my life. But my life is, through Christ, 💯 now that the pressure is off. My daughter acting like I just wasn't that bad. No, not as severe to lose a limb, but in the constant badgering, cursing, and continued hatred wore me down. If you suffer from that high degree of stress, my prayer for you is that it will be removed from your life completely, in Jesus name 🙏 Peace and Blessings!!!
@@annanderson1470 thank you so much for sharing your experiences. I have so much respect for those like yourself who have battled for decades. Im 33 years old and struggle to imagine living like this forever. And I’m glad to say that, while it hurt at first, making my circle of family and friends small has been the best thing for me mentally/emotionally. I am so blessed to have an amazing mom who is my full-time caregiver as well as friends who validate my pain/feelings and do not judge me for the medications I take. I hate that society has pushed us all under the umbrella of “addicts” when there are so many chronic pain patients who are responsible with their meds but are being stripped of them and ending their lives as a result. God Bless! 🙏🏻❤️🙏🏻
@@thewilltowalk6651 Thank you so very much for your kind words. It has indeed been a struggle but there are also blessing to be found within our struggles if we will only let God take the helms. Your struggle through the lose of a limb must be an unimaginable one. If truly one Could walk a mile, no a week in our shoes perhaps they could come to some measure of understanding. They would surely see that health, mental state, family situations or lack of, financial stability, and much more are affected by living in constant pain. Only God is constant and always forgiving and non judgemental. He is Bigger than all we suffer in this life. I am beyond happy to know that you have your mother and a small group of people around you that genuinely care and have your best interest at heart. You will one day run in the open fields of Heaven!! And it's closer than you know. Peace and Blessings to you and your family 🙏🙏🙏💖💖💖
@@BlueBirdsSong It breaks my heart that so many of us are living this nightmare and, even worse, having no choice but to end their battle “fall on their sword” because they lose their meds. We are neither being allowed to live nor die with dignity because society and the medical system has backed us into this corner. I have never felt so horrible as I did during the week after losing my med and being either un-medicated or heavily under-medicated during that time. But in response to my screams was a slammed door rather than pain relief. I pray that things change for the better in the future, but it seems they are only getting worse. God Bless You ❤️🫂🙏🏻
@@annanderson1470 the lack of dignity and pain management I have experienced since losing my leg last March has been mind-blowing…the worst being my week-long stay in the hospital after my amputation where I was heavily under-medicated, and the sound of my screaming and vomiting from the pain was met with a slammed door from nurses. I cannot wait til the day where I can run through Heaven’s gates whole again and no longer have to suffer from this terrible disease. I’m sure you cannot wait either ❤️🙏🏻🫂
As a former RN may I just say that while acetaminophen is great for reducing fevers and for mild pain, it is a not a substitute for stronger pain medication. Not even close. Also, because its effects are mild people often tend to take more than they really should, which can lead to liver damage over time. Of course opioids can be addictive, but they are highly effective. Since pain slows down the body's healing, eliminating pain actually allows the body to heal faster. Because patients depend on a physician to prescribe effective pain relief, it puts them in a vulnerable position, So, it's incredibly insulting to then be treated as a drug seeker/addict when they make a request for something stronger to relieve their pain. Dr. K makes some great points in this video but I have personally had enough post-op experiences to know that being stingy with opioids makes a patient suffer needlessly, extending both the pain and the healing.
After my last major surgery on a badly broken arm I was already on a high dose of pain relief which thankfully my gp manages and on day 2 after surgery some of the doctor's wanted to take down a pain med infusion which was running all the time plus take down the pain medication drip I could push when needed to deliver a small dose of pain relief. Thankfully one of my surgeon's and nurse that have taken care of me through over 10 operations knew me well enough to know when I said how much pain I was in that I wasn't just looking for a buzz which so many chronic pain disorder patients get accused of. Thankfully I am extremely lucky to have the medical team I have. And so many more people deserve the same. To anyone suffering from a pain condition, I send you loads of healing energy and strength, and I hope you are able to get the kindness and support that is needed ✨️
Thank you so so much for articulate comment. As a pharmacist I know you are 100 % correct but it's like we are yelling in the middle of a forest where noone hears and refuse to listen and the judgmental attitudes are sickening. I am seeing more and more tylenol after surgery!!! Really ?!? What happened to untreated severe acute pain can and will lead to chronic pain. These robotic providers need to wake up.
That’s impossible. I have chronic pain and was on narcotics. When I was on high doses I just slept all the time and I still was in pain. I talked to my doctor about it and together we decided to reduce my dose while still being able to sleep through the night. Now that I am on a lower dose my life is way better. I can sleep and the pain is low enough that I can function. That is what you should target, to get you pain levels low enough that you can sleep and be functional during the day.
that is not the medical reality for most pain patients. Pain management is not "get me pain free"-- that may not be medically possible or advisable. Opiate escalation and tolerance management is a vital thing, for instance, you cannot give someone enough medication to make them pain-free if it means in a few short years they will be unable to obtain relief from any painkiller on the market in legal dosages. These drugs also affect the body, putting a patient into kidney failure or liver failure on pain medication is not responsible of a doctor even if their pain is only controlled with amounts of drugs that would do so. There are limits beyond which if a patient is not on hospice care, a doctor could well see themselves charged with murder if a patient has a bad outcome and they are on inappropriate dosages of painkillers. Pain management is one part of a complex question that has many factors: tolerance management, side effect management, avoiding negative lifestyle effects (someone sleeping in bed all day is going to lose muscle and mobility, and if someone cannot be up and active their standard of living and life expectancy go way down), meeting patient goals (I don't want to be so medicated I can't drive, I don't want to be so medicated I can't work, I don't want to be so medicated it scares the grandkids, etc) and a ton of other valid medical factors.
@@dangerszewski9816I lay in bed all day *because* of the pain. My quality of life has greatly reduced because of the pain. When im medicated, I am functional & healthy. They don't care. They're leaving me in this hell.
I can *guarantee* the *same* doctors that refuse to properly prescribe pain medication for serious injuries would not refuse themselves or their family members that *very same* pain medication for the *very same* injuries. Sickening.
I do not know this to be true. Doctors, with a full appreciation of the risks, tend to be extremely conservative taking drugs, of any kind. I know people in medicine who wouldn't even take a tylonal when most people would.
Brian, my only disagreement is that the govt agencies have made it SO difficult to prescribe opioid pain meds it's simply not worth the doctor's time and effort to bother with it. Yes, there are bad doctors, just as there are bad cops and house painters. But those occupations usually don't affect life and death on a daily basis. Our government is more concerned with protecting criminals from the results of their illegal activities than they are serving those of us who desperately need need pain relief. Please understand most doctors are willing to use the proper medication for the proper application, but these idiots in WashDC have handcuffed them with ridiculous and unreasonable rules and regulations - with spectacular failures. Many doctors have run afoul of the bureaucratic BS thru minor paperwork errors that result in out-of-proportional punishments that cause even the most dedicated medical professionals to be super cautious. Most of the blame belongs squarely on the heads of the unelected, spineless and faceless pencil-pushing weasels that need to grow a brain (I know, good luck on that, right?!) I pray your family has not been touched by these misguided medical morons. Mine has, and has paid the price.
I'm a former addiction counselor and I can assure you, those that need and would NOT abuse these medications suffer greatly because of the actions of those prone to addiction. They are NOT the same and should not be made to suffer. Untreated pain leads to extreme, desperate measures. Would having the death of a suicidal patient on your conscience be any different than the one addiction caused? Denying those who are desperately in need of relief is not the answer.
why are we baker acted when we are suffering so bad and have no meds and threaten suicide? How does a "rehab" help us with our pain.. I never got this rationally? Im completely mentaly stable but when im in a pain of 11 (out of 10) I want to die, and WILL eventually kill myself... So they just commit me.... I dont get it... Just makes me want to do it even more now...
Doctors feel no responsibility for patients in chronic pain. If a chronic pain patient commits suicide they just say they were mentally ill, not legitimately wishing for an end to their pain. Most docs have never experienced a 9-10 on the pain scale and absolutely cannot fathom what years of daily pain does to a person. In my experience they don't want to hear it. Telling them only gets you labeled "non-compliant and drug seeking." I wouldn't wish this kind of pain on my worst enemy but I have a list of gaslighting doctors that I'd happily saddle with it if I had the ability. I will likely die of a stroke or aneurysm in my bed because I would rather die than go to an ER and be dehumanized and humiliated again. Doctors have made living with daily pain much much worse. God forbid you go to a "Pain Clinic." They are all set up for addicts and the assumption if you become a patient at one is that you're an addict already. No thanks.
@@bethb861 I think things may have eased a bit in Australia recently. I ended up in pain from doing a physio exercise the day before. Woke up and could barely walk. Xray at ER showed severe OA plus believed me when I said I had HEDS. I couldn't believe it! Physio bent my toe back, explained xray and gave me a cane. Given short course of opiod meds. Not doing that exercise again, can't sleep on my side. Private Physio made it worse! YT videos on strengthening glutes etc helped.
Thanks for your comment I wish your voice could be heard. I don't know how the patient this doctor describes could have OD'd if he was taking meds as prescribed.
Come on doctors, listen to all of these real people who are in real pain and please help us and please do something good and advocate for us!!!! We are in severe chronic pain and we can’t stand much more of it!!!! Please help us!!!!!!
In 2005, I had thoracic surgery. I was sent home where I was in agony. I was also on chemo. I could not move, eat, drink. The hospital said I had to go back to the hospital or not be given anything. My oncologist finally ordered morphine for a month. I did not become addicted. I am now 73, with osteoporosis, arthritis of the spine and neck, spred SI joint, broken pelvis in 2 places. My insurance Co sent me a letter saying I have been taking Tramadol over 80 days. I have been taking that for Bone Pain for 20 years. They cut me down last year and I use alcohol every day now because I do not have enough pain control. I have not taken street drugs yet, but I am thinking I may, just for a few good days. Why do the make Seniors suffer? The war on drugs is a war on people with severe pain.
I am so very sorry. That's absolutely awful that you're being treated the way that you're being treated, you don't deserve that at all!! You're right, their war is only affecting those with chronic pain. And it isn't right :(
I"m so sorry. The government's war on people in valid, visible and justifiable pain is inhumane. I had thoracic surgery last month. They gave me Norco first. Then oxy-- but no Tylenol. (together it's only percocet.)That's what they used to give for a root canal! Was having arrhythmias like crazy. Nothing for spasms. Absolutely unreal. It took a lot of arguing to get anything stronger-- yet they already had my history. No one would treat a dog this way.
@@tangogrrl They treat us all as drug addicts. Yes, the political war on people has caused so much suffering and if our doctors address our pain, they are threatened.
I laugh at my nurses every time they tell me I just need to be more active, I don't need pain meds, because pain won't be lethal. I laugh at them because how do they expect me to be as active as they want me to be if it hurts too much to walk?
@@sl4983 at my last visit, I told them my lack of treatment was inhumane. So, they prescribed me something, told me it was for pain, but I found out 3 weeks later that it wasn't. It was actually an anti depressant. The issue that causes my condition has nothing to do with any of that. It's actually a destructive form of arthritis. You would think they would prescribe something to treat that instead, even if they don't want to give traditional pain meds. It's sickening. 14 years of this fight to be treated like a human being. If either of my cats would feel what I do for as long as a day, the humane society would be called, the cats would be taken away, I'd be charged and jailed for animal abuse and neglect, and banned for life from being able to even have a goldfish, but they can do this to us with no repercussions whatsoever
When u get friends and family encouraging anti depressants as if that is the problem. I'm tired of saying its the pain and misery that makes me depressed! 😢
@@patjonker6576 No kidding. Between that and nobody really listening to what you say you really need help with ... I keep saying to them it's the deterioration of my spine that's making it so I can't walk without screaming, not depression, and any depression I may be feeling is certainly not clinical depression, as ANYONE would feel anxious, on edge, and like going postal after years of being in mind numbing pain, begging doctors for help managing it, and being told AND treated like we are imagining it. I'm getting to the point where I'm almost ready to sign up for our lethal kool-aid program, since no matter how many years I say, "please stop giving me anti depressants for my arthritis damage", they just switch me to another anti depressant with a different name and tell me it's for pain
I've had a male nurse tell me that pain is just a signal letting you know you're alive...what a joke! Some people have never experienced *real* pain therefore have absolutely *no* idea what it's like. Tylenol and Ibuprofen are for mild pain like a headaches or toothaches, anything else from moderate to severe they don't even come close to being effective.
Just because some people are susceptible to addiction, doesn't mean we all are. I guarantee, if the pain was occurring in the doctor, they'd be writing themselves a script for pain meds. Most Dr's don't care. It's not affecting them. Bottom line. Also, if opioids were really the worst culprit and addiction, then why are the U.S. borders wide open for the drug cartels to bring in the very drug that were supposed to be afraid of.
Yes they would, iam chronic pain patient and have fibromyalgia, arthritis, degenerative disk disease, chronic migraines, spinal headaches, ect so yeah if they were in that type of pain and had trouble functioning they likely would take pain mds
That's absolutely false. We're all susceptible to addiction because addiction is the physiological response to repeated exposure to a substance. Stop demonizing those with substance abuse disorders!
Any time I hear a doctor tell someone in pain to “mediate, yoga, chi, etc” BS, I literally want to see them lose their license. And I’m not a pain patient
These doctors are clowns. This guy saying advil is a powerful pain reliever. I went to a pain management "doctor" that told me to take tumeric for serious back pain. By serious, I'm talking I just has spine surgery and got fused from L4-S1 with both discs removed and replaced with spacers, part of the vertebrae removed to make room for the nerve. Yeah, a pain specialist suggesting herbal remedies should have his license taken. They can go run a cash register somewhere.
I went 7 months In severe pain from avascular necrosis of the hip till my surgery because Noone would prescribed me anything despite no history of drug abuse or no desire to abuse meds. I just wanted to relieve my pain. Tylenol does nothing for 10 pain...I felt judged, abandoned and neglected by the medical community...Innocent patients shouldn't have to pay the price of the few bad apples who abuse meds
My sister suffered the same. She was told it was arthritis and had to wait a year for a hip replacement. Nothing but T3s which made her sick. So she wouldn't take them .Wouldn't give her an MRI either. The doc finally saw it in the preoperative x-ray which of course he didn't look at till day of. You could see her pain from head to toe and it was dismissed. 😢
@shlalouie am so sorry about that. To suffer in pain is cruel on the doctors part. They did take a oath to relieve suffering and to leave someone in pain when it can be relieved is insane. Surgery shouldn't wait a year and people shouldn't be treated like drug seekers when there is clearly a diagnosis that the pains real because of a few bad apples who abuse meds . It's just sad the world we live in today
If doctors feel responsible for the addicts created from their prescriptions, then they also need to feel responsible for the suicides from failure to provide these prescriptions. I’m also amazed at all the other highly addictive meds docs are happy to prescribe in order to avoid prescribing opiates.
SSRI's are way more dangerous in my opinion. Yet, every visit they offer them up like their giving away tic tacs.. Sure they don't have immediate effects but if you take them for a few months then come off them.. Wow.. Worse withdraws ever.. Especially if they are the serotonin and endorphin combo's.. Something like Tramadol is a dog shit pain med but one hellish nightmare to come off of.. Way worse than percs or oxy.. That drug should be banned in my opinion.
Ya. Like duloxetine, a terrible , impossible to get off of , dual. SSRIs Snri nightmare of a supposed nerve pain drug; that’s gnarly and actually DANGEROUS DRUG…..until my wife counted the little pellets to wean me off this sh.. uh med.
I think it's partly so people will turn to street substances and become a cash cow for the judicial system. The "war on drugs" has hurt everyone in America.
I wish doctors knew what it felt like to live with intractable pain due to permanent health conditions, and experience the psychological problems that accompany it.
My pain is so severe sometimes that I sleep all day and sit on my back patio wailing in the dark, asking the universe to help me. I'm told I'm mean and not trying. I havnt left my house since Jan. Before that it was Thanksgiving. I know this sounds crazy, but my cats like to sleep on my hips and legs, my most painful spots. I've tried grounding.
me and my friend always joke about how nice it would be if abusive doctors regarding the sort of doctor to abuse pain patients on opiods....well how those kind of doctors would feel if they were tortured and then mocked and told: "you want an fing tylenol? hahaha". it's no different from most modern doctors. the pain is there to the patients. but they're all treated like addicts anyways. doctors care more about sadistically catching and stopping addicts than treating pain. no one will advocate for pain patients and the medical system and government considers it "eugenic" that these pain patients just kill themselves. "less strain on the system. less money and effort. good". it's actually dysgenic but the modern western elites are psychotic so.
Very few people in any vocation have actual empathy. This system is broken. As this physician suggested in another video we must be as proactive of our own health. as possible. I think it’s a good idea, for myself, to always have something ‘on the ready’ in case someone I care about, including myself and even including my DOG, find ourselves dealing with a physician without compassion in an emergency pain situation. Again, I’m speaking only for myself.
Yes. You have to find the root cause of the pain. While you are getting to the root cause, it is nice to be able to have an opioid (it can save your life-and your mind!) to help while you are trying to solve the problem and figure out what to do about it. The days of going to a doctor to have your problem solved are over. We have to take this into our own hands. It’s scary, but so true!!
@Lowe Spring Acres I agree with you 110%. Those of us in chronic pain, and the Dr knowing exactly why, should NOT be denied opioids because of how someone else used them. C'mon!!
@@tinavasquez7206 Amen, Sister! It is so wrong what they’re doing to us in chronic, for many of us multi year, multi DECADE pain! It’s CRIMINAL really. And we have the pleasure of dealing with doctors looking at us and even ASKING US if we are drug seekers/addicts. Ugh 😩 Sometimes, it just seems like too much. Well actually, most of the time it IS too much. WAY TOO MUCH. 😰🥺 Take care of yourself ❤️❤️❤️✌🏻
I'm one of those people. Broke my back and my neck when I was younger... Currently in late stage 3 cancer for the second time. I have spent months basically incapacitated from chemo and radiation. Finally got the most minimal of pain meds two weeks ago after six months. I will tell you firsthand that this whole opiate crisis is b******* when it comes to people that are over 60 and in chronic pain.
My cats and dogs get better care than from many a human doctor. Am so sorry for all of the untreated pain here on these posts. Drug addicts have caused all of the unrelieved pain reported on this site.
Thank you for your comment I have chronic pain I'm 60 years old and I have severe sciatica head injuries broken orbital bone broken jaw broken nose I suffer from migraines and they want to prescribe me ibuprofen it does work but the degree of pain I suffer from I have never taken opiates and they do make me nauseous but I will do anything to get out of this pain I know it's not right but some people resort to illicit drugs but I know people who have died from them and I just will live with the pain
Agree with you 100 %.. The actions of addicts have hurt so many people . I have had terrible misfortune since I was 25, and even had to give up my beloved work as a HS teacher, because of the vomiting . Why didn’t some dr give me an nausea medicine? I suffered until I was 63! Finally I was referred to an Angel of a female neuro in NYC. I had a normal life ! However, she retired after 5 years because her husband became very ill. I am back to my old life. I have two fractures in my back and a neuromuscular disease, and are in pain daily. Now I can’t ever take any pain meds or even Tylenol. My stomach is bad and I had a massive gastric hemorrhage last year. Many fractures of not a few bones. Life is very difficult.
Doctors went from over prescribing to not prescribing and the boomerang effect has been devastating. We know the reason. We suffer because of *politics.* I was on pain management for almost three decades. I went from daily morphine to *nothing.* The result? At 63 I'm addicted to fentanyl. When you're in pain you don't fear dying...you fear untreated pain. It's torture. We've been used and abused by the medical community, the politicians, and the pharmaceutical industry. At this point I prefer to die at home, in control of my pain.
Yes,because surviving Family members have sued Doctors for "malpractice" and have had extreme laws passed in the latter years to where you can lose your medical license plus go to Prison!!!
It Isn't Fair to you ,me and others,but that is the unfortunate way it is. My Friend died w/ painkillers and alcohol. I know it was accidental ,but when you are in pain and stressed out it is easy to make a fatal mistake!☹️😭
The consequence of death due to untreated/under-treated pain was not mentioned. When I was a hospital nurse in the early 1980’s, there was no excuse for allowing any patient to be in unbearable pain. Sometimes I would work for hours trying to get a patient’s pain under control. When I suddenly developed a injury that developed into an intractable pain condition, I was surprised to find that none of my physicians would prescribe me any effective medication, resulting in years of indescribable suffering, even to the current day. The [manufactured] opioid crisis, which is really an illegal Chinese fentanyl crisis, is used as an excuse to deprive suffering people of reasonable amounts of pain control.
As a Nurse/Nurse Practitioner Of 29 yrs Now Medically Retired ..Currently 7 Diagnosis’ 4 Fatal With Beyond Extreme Pain & Trust Me I Am Totally Aware & It Angers Me To No End..How Could It Not Anger Us Which Eventually turns into some form of depression and then isolation it’s wrong and we’re paying for this daily and it’s got to stop. We’re purposely having medication‘s withheld because of the people out on the street who are doing them and dying and there is more sympathy for them because they have a disease.. hold up. I’ve been diagnosed with 7+ diseases. Excuse me I have the diseases. I have the pain all over my body to the point where I can longer walk, I’m gonna die like this so forgive me if I’m little less tolerant to the people who are out there taking these medication’s we are being denied and they are being told that they need help because they have a disease and it’s not their fault! WHAT In The Medical Nonsensory ! This wrong needs rated immediately because those of us in this much pain and being looked at even when we’re advocating and being a nurse and a nurse practitioner, you know how to advocate for patients I know how to advocate for myself, and it just doesn’t work does not work The more you the more that they see you as a seeker and then your devastated enter the depression again it’s a cycle and it’s gaslighting and it’s best and it’s gotta stop. We should not have to be in this much pain for this long for the rest of our lives.
It is really the government scaring drs and pharmacists. I had a great pain dr. She really wanted to help people. The shut her down but didn't take her license. So she lost her practice and her staff lost their jobs. She went to work in a medical group. What was the point?? Just governmental over reach.
I actually laughed at my doctor last time I was in to see her I got pissed off and said how long do I have to wait before you treat my pain. She could see visible breaks in my lower spine and other various degeneration etc. I said to her the over doses in town are a bit out of control huh? She replies by telling me, yeah and that she works part time as a coroner so she see's the o.d's... I laughed and said, you know you guys pretty much banned opiate prescribing in 2017.. It's 2022.. You know what's killing these people eh? She said opiates!.. I laughed and said no! It's illegal fentanyl coming in from china,mexico and most likely now being made in Canada.. When you guys pulled back on opiate prescribing you created a vacuum that was filled by the most lethal drug to ever hit the streets! And you guys created the problem coming and going.. Most of the doctors in Canada weren't prescribing 70 and 80 mg of oxy either. They were rxing low dose 5 mg oxycodone, or percs.. Very rarely was anyone actually getting a high dose of oxy back in the hay day.. At least not around here. No one needed anymore than 5 or 10 mg anyways.. If they did, it was time for the doctor to cold turkey them off them for a month to reset their bodies. Tolerance is an issue and if people aren't actually withdrawing off it once a month, their tolerance will get out of control real fast.. So couple that with zero education and you got a real big crisis on your hands. I've been off and on 5 mg oxy for years.. Every month I withdraw from them for 2 weeks before the next batch. So it's 2 weeks of no pain, and 2 weeks of pain.. Doing the withdraw properly in a taper with proper vitamins and it's really only 1 day of downtime.. If people and doctors had the education, none of this would be a problem.. You can't just up their dosage then decide it's getting out of hand and cut them off.. You gotta taper them right off slowly, then keep them off them for a week or 2. That is how you keep the mg low. Otherwise you get junkies over dosing..
@@michellestephenson-webb3175 One of the reasons for leaving those suffering is the control by the government. Typically, laws are passed and stringent regulations are enacted. They react to the “opioid “ crisis via these unintended consequences. Doctors have the feds and states constantly monitoring their prescriptions. They worry about censure or loss of even their licenses. Even the pain docs worry. The government should not be in everyone’s life to the extent it is.
Compassionate clip! Some have chronic, highly debilitating lifelong conditions where lifestyle changes aren't enough and don't want medication but need it for basic functioning. ❤️🙏💞
Thats me, too. Nothing for rheumatoid arthritis but tylenol and asperin. Need sixteen a day , mixed, to function. Guess what? Liver not functioning right!
After you have bone on bone pain in your hips, so bad you can’t even start to walk right. After you have such severe pain in your back that you take like a 5 second shower bent over hanging on to the bar that is at knee level. After you have had 3 back surgeries- 2 fusions. After you have a punctured colon after a colonoscopy that leaves you with an almost ruptured colon but it leaves you with a pocket of fluid that requires a drain passed through your butt to the abcess( oh yeah and it ran way to close to your sciatic nerve) and hafta leave it in for 2 months before you can have surgery not to mention trying to work as much as you can through all of this. Then you can tell me how well NSAIDS ,Tylenol,Toradol work for you. It is barbaric.
I spent 15yrs turning down pain medication. I get diagnosed with psoriatic arthritis and fibromyalgia, diabetes, non alcohol fatty liver, planter facilities,sacroiliitis etc... now I can't get anything but surgeries and steroid injections. But no pain medication now that I really need it and have trouble walking I'm 39. I love getting punished for other people's addictions.
I had all that, and the pain moving was horrible Turned out my body could not convert B-12 in my stomach/intestines for my body use. My illness started at 39... Am 67 now and am totally better...just fixing problems from being bed bound for 10 years in last episode. Started B-12 shots every month for 4 years now, and am amazed after struggling since 1995 in pain ...not to wake up and not be able to move is not a fear anymore Hematologist is only doc I go to now.
As a former RN & daughter of a stomach cancer patient who was extremely under-medicated it became my philosophy that Id rather "give pain medicine to someone who didnt need it than to not give it to someone who did." Ive been at the nurses station ALOT and hear a patient call for pain medicine and the nurse say "Im not giving it right now. Theyre a drug seeker." Not all nurses but WAY more than I could deal with. I have had patients admitted w pancreatitis or something painful & the dr insists on Tylenol because they believe the patient is drug seeking. Then I check on the patient and they are a literal mess. Sweating, high bp, high pulse... whatever.) I will call that dr repeatedly till midnight or have the house supervisor call the dr to at least get a one time dose of morphine or dilaudid. Haha I was probably a nightmare nurse. No, that's not why Im not a nurse today. A combination of being fed up w hospitals caring more about money and less about patient care, having a very sick & premature baby and an amputation. I miss it though. I had that motherly feeling w my patients. Like when your chid is sick u stay up all night w them ❤
I am a nurse too & feel the same. It’s not my job to keep someone from being an addict. It’s my job to safely control their pain. I’m convinced some healthcare professionals are sadists who get off on hold that power over someone.
You are one of the only empathetic ones left, there just isn’t enough empathetic people. People are cold, unempathetic, unloving. People don’t care for there follow man or woman.
30-year acute care RN here...and on-call.... a lot...so I feel your pain, doc. I wonder if docs feel the patients' pain? About ten years ago I had to travel across the State to receive a somewhat delicate surgery that required a bone graft. They sent me on my way with one pain pill (a Vicodin 5/500). After nearly passing out on the three hour drive home, we called the surgery center and they said, 'too bad, so sad.' I ended up calling my next door neighbor late that night to take me to the ER. She said she had a couple percocets. Infuriating situation. Bone pain is like nothing else.
My boyfriend got a hand surgery that included scraping the bone down. He was told it's out patient and he is going to be able to have a few Percocet. Well it was supposed to get a nerve block for 3 days and he had it fail. He actually got admitted to get the pain relief but he didn't have any idea that he would scream for hours on end and not gotten any more pain relief. They were jerks and eventually got the nerve block from the surgery staff and they were so mean and made fun of him to his face
@@suziecarr1566 OMG THATS AWFUL! I cant even imagine! I slipped on ice down my front steps. I chipped a vertebrae. I sat screaming as waves of muscle contractions took over my entire back and searing pain in my lower back throbbed non stop until they finally took a cat scan 2 hours later which showed i had chipped the vertebrae. THEN and only then, did they give me morphine and lidocaine. Before the cat scan, one nurse ROLLED HER EYES at my screaming as a wave of severe pain from the muscles freezing in unison went through my back. I was left in a dark room to scream in agony. Its SICK what they do to us. The propaganda and constant talk of opioids in relation to addicts ONLY, by politicians and the media, is to blame for this. We deserve relief from pain, not degradation, humiliations and judgements from people who have no idea what chronic pain feels like.
Yep. I had an accident that broke most of my teeth and had to have them all pulled so I could get implants. They gave me toradol. (And we both know how ineffective toradol is for dental or bone pain.) After digging out 17 broken teeth. Some from deep in my cheek and jaw bones. Im also an RN. (See pfp 😝) I also used to be an opioid addict. (😕) I made the mistake of being honest with the doctor. (Wont do that again.) But both I and my husband assured the doctor that he would hold my meds for me. He didnt say anything really. No warning or clarification.... And sent me home with toradol. So when I called later (well my husband did because i was rocking back and forth crying) he also said "Too bad, so sad. Its our policy to refuse opioids to addicts." They dont know anything about my addiction and didnt care that Id been clean for years. They couldve asked. I mean, i wouldve been happy with, idk, like 5 percocets! That probably wouldve been enough anyway. But its wrong to refuse adequate pain relief to ANYONE. Even an addict or an ex addict. Its inhumane. The "treatment" for addiction is not "pain". In fact, his decision drove me back out on the street to get relief. I knew it would hurt to have my teeth pulled. Mybfamily asked if I had a plan for if I became physically addicted again. I told them I did. I was fully willing to go back to rehab. Well, what I got on the street ended up being Fentanyl. (No, thats not what I thought I bought.) And I still only took a tiny TINY dose. And I ended up waking up in the back of an ambulance getting Narcanned. If the stupid doctor had just treated my pain, none of that wouldve happened. I mean, it really is inhumane. And counteractive. And dangerous.
Do you remember when Pain was one of the 5 VS? When the Right to Pain Relief was a thing? And it was actually illegal to refuse pain management to people? I graduated in 2007 so I was taught that way. Soon after the FDA or whoever it was cracked down and overcorrected so now were seeing pts resorting to buying from their neighbors or ANYONE they can just to get some relief. Its disgusting.
Yeah I'm recovering from a broken hip and got like 3 5mg hydrocodone a day for 5 or so days and yeah not enough. I found kratom though and use that instead since it's easier than figuring out how to ask a doctor for meds in a way that doesn't get me put on a list. So frustrating, it's like if I wanted to get high I could findd a way to do it that doesn''t involve all these appointments.
I just was kicked out of my pain clinic after being a perfect patient for 10 years. They left me without pain medication for 10 days, and I got three different stories. After I calmed down from yelling, I calmly said to them, you guys have your tails between your legs because you're worried about losing your licenses over something that was a suggestion and never a law to begin with. That's when they said get out or we're calling the cops. So now I'm without a pain clinic, they're all just Mills that don't listen to patients, and I can't afford a private pain clinic. They've lowered me so much, that I might as well just stop taking anything. I have RSD, I have severe phantom pains with spinal cord stimulator that still gets beat with phantom pain sometimes, I have fibromyalgia, I have arthritis, I have a couple broken bones right now, I have temporal lobe seizures, and Parkinson's. And they left me without pain medication. This is gotten to be insane. But unless the CDC talks to each state individually and tells them that it wasn't a law they were just suggestions, then it's never ever going to work. It's ridiculous. Millions of us should not be suffering because a doctor lost a seemingly perfect patient to an overdose. That is the doctor's issues not ours. Don't punish us for what another perfect patient did. That was their choice not ours. Stop punishing us.
I am getting ready to file a complaint against my doctor with the state medical commission for her treatment of me for my chronic pain. She blocked my pharmacy from my getting pain meds for my recent surgery. We have to do something. I am 71 and refuse to get old and decrepit because I can't move anymore.
Honestly it's the person who overdosed issue more than anyone's. Why should the doctor or the rest of us suffer because their dumbass wanted to get high and overdosed? Put the blame where it belongs. On the person who made the decision to ingest more medication than they were supposed to
@@bluewaters3100Yes!!! This nightmare will only end when the financial cost of lawsuits from denied pain patients exceeds the cost of lawsuits of shyster family members of addicts! Everyone has a RESPONSIBILITY to file complaints and sue wherever possible!
We’ll said! I suffer from stage 4 Osteoarthritis! I fell hard twice back in June and I was told it was stage 4 Osteoarthritis! The dr doesn’t give me any pain meds!! I’m bed bound now and can’t walk or stand! On top of that he kicked me out of his office and told me to find someone else! I hate doctors!
when my father's primary care provider wrote a refill for my dad's Vicodin (incurable degenerative spinal disease) the PHARMACIST REFUSED to fill it. He told my father that he was an addict and he wasn't going to give him any more. It took us YEARS to talk him into taking pain meds because he was in so much pain he barely slept. He didn't want to get addicted. So when he FINALLY got relief, and tried to get his meds refilled, he was denied by someone who was operating outside of his scope of practice. He should have lost his license for that, and if I had known about it at the time, he would have.
Omg!! He had no I'd turn him in for misconduct. I have to get a new script every month for my meds ( oxycodone ) they don't let them put refills on certain class of rx here in NY. I'm not sure about other places.
Agreed. The 'Opioid crisis' had gotten so much hype and over exposure because of stupid teenagers (or very desperate teenagers) got ahold of it and took too much and then EVERYONE has to suffer, forgetting the entire valid reason for the drug in the first place. How can people with chronic pain live without it? They CAN'T!!
I'm sorry your father went thru that. I also have a spinal disease , that has left me dealing with debilitating pain. I understand your frustration with the pharmacist . However, a pharmacist has every right to refuse filling any prescription, that is 100% in their job description. It is their licence and they have gone to school for 8 yrs to have the right to do so. They are not simply pill counters. Both of my parents were pharmacists. We owned a pharmacy I grew up watching their interactions with patients. If you felt the pharmacy was in the wrong, why didn't your father simply go to another pharmacy? Btw because of the opioid crisis , pharmacies have become a target for fake rxs, patients begging every month to fill prescriptions early and strong armed robbery . They can also be sued just as the prescribing doctors for loosely filling addictive medications. They aren't trying to prevent anyone from getting pain relief , they are trying to do their job professionally and ethically .
@@CTaco65 Understood. But a PharmD can still be against pain meds, due to being overly cautious. That's why an MD should have the ultimate say, when it comes to having scripts filled.
Agree! The doctor's created the opioid epidemic in the first place by overprescribing and getting all kinds of perks by the pharmacy reps. Then have the NERVE scapegoating all patients universally as drug'-seekers. Don't punish patients with actual chronic pain for God's sake. People get hopeless ftom the cruel indifference of doctors who basically make their patients live a tortured life trapped in a body with chronic pain. SHAME on you doctors. Also have pharmacists been granted overloads of prescriptions? They trump doctors? What the heck is going on. I've heard of this happening. Are they trying to practice medicine illegally by going against doctor's orders? Who is the patient's pcp? The patient is under whose care? Are pharmacists now the popo? seriously, what is going on in health care. So many are not getting care anymore. People are suffering. Use some moderation with patients instead of going from one extreme to the other.
I recently had 3 teeth surgically removed & stitched. I got ibuprofen. About 3 hours later, it felt like I got shot in my face. The dentist refused any painkillers. I went to the emergency room after that. I got enough for next 3 days(12 percocet). That's all I needed. It soothed the throbbing pain along with ice and ibuprofen. I'm in my 60's. Ive never abused meds. If anything, I used less than the recommended dose. I told my dentist I couldnt continue with any scaling/crowns and an upcoming root canal without 2-3 days of any additional pain management. My mouth has always been hyper sensitive to such trauma. He agreed to add this to my next procedure. I shouldn't have to go to an emergency room for 10-12 pills. The scammers ruined this for the legitimate chronic pain sufferers. And I doubt this doctor has experienced chronic/severe pain, because if he did, he'd likely change his biased opinion.
@conditionallyunconditional5691 I don't think it was scammers (selling their pills?) that ruined things. I think they wanted to do it, and the used the scammers as a convenient scapegoat. It was the CDC that caused the problem. In 2016 their published recommendations that physicians prescribe fewer opioids. Nov 3 2022 they published another set of recommendations that modified this slightly, they said the recommendations were just recommendations; there was no need to follow them exactly. Physicians still follow the recommendations.
I recently had a ruptured abcess on my gumline and, while I have bad teeth and have known for a long time that tooth pain is some of the most severe pain anyone can endure, I realized how absolutely criminal it is for dentists to leave their patients reeling in such torment. At the same time, I just watched something that made me realize how screwed dentists really are when it comes to the grand scale of their profession and insurance dealings. Which is beside the point here... What I was getting at is that it isn't really their fault. It's mostly the government and media interfering with and influencing their decisions. And ability to make their own educated decisions. It really is something...
I had to go to the er, too. ER doctor had to call oral surgery from a different hospital and advocate for me to get it out. She prescribed enough oxycodone until the antibiotic took effect. I used medical cannabis tincture after the extraction (had to compromise and do it awake...) because they gave me a high dose of nsaids which wrecks my stomach. The last thing you want to hear when a student doctor takes out your wisdom tooth is 'what is that?'. Turned out to be a shard of tooth that came out months later lolll
So very glad to hear you discussing this topic. I have been living with chronic neck pain since 2004. I've had 3 cervical fusions and the pain hasn't ever stopped. I've tried multiple holistic remedies in an attempt to help myself because I couldn't get help from any doctor. I have basically quit living.
I live with pain everyday and I have my doctor turn me down constantly, the pain pill epidemic in Tennessee caused by the people that abuse prescription medications fixed it for people that actually live with pain and need the pain meds. Its not fair to us.
I live in Tennessee and know what pain is for sure. I broke my neck, back,all my ribs on the left with a collapsed lung. In Vanderbilt ICU I was put on a pain pump with a push button. I had over 40 broken bones and only received meds when my family was there, this went on for 8 days. They are satists 🤬👹👺👿
@@gardenbyrd Omgosh that is awful. I'm sorry you had to go through all that. They should have helped you with all those broken bones. I broke my hand and woke up sick for weeks due to the pain of it mending itself back together I couldn't even imagine the pain you went through
@@kathydilorenzo9744 They are finding other methods that do not work. They just cause more pain. You pretty much have to be older than 50 and or have cancer
As an ICU nurse and a person with chronic pain who has had 8 major abdominal surgeries, I notice that policies and laws today benefit criminals rather than those with acute and sometimes chronic pain. I've seen pain management Docs leave their practices due to their hands being tied to help their clients. Yes, more care is needed in titrating doses down to help people who may have needed longer time-periods on meds. I've seen too many clients undermedicated...a 4 hour post-op lap chole. with Tylenol ordered for pain or a fresh hip replacement (sent home the same day) with only 8 Percocets to be taken q 6 hrs.. Crazy...These are the people who then turn to OTC meds and risk liver and kidney damage because they over-medicate in their attempts to control their pain
My dad is given oxy without question for filling cavities or other routine dental work but doctors absolutely refused to give them to my mom who had knee replacement surgery for both knees and for her herniated discs or for me after I had foot surgery on my broken big toe. It never ceases to amaze me how men get better treatment by doctors.
Idk. I'm a man and just had teeth pulled and couldn't even get vicodin. I never can get anything prescribed when I'm injured. Meanwhile my friend seems to get pain meds thrown at them over getting a splinter lol. I think it's more of a doctor thing than a sex thing. The issue is the doctor you're seeing. Even if you grew a penis I doubt that would change that doctors mind on prescribing you pain meds, like it's some requirement lol
I've heard of men getting sedation for testicular ultrasounds, men are treated better in some cases vs how women are. These days women are having csections, mastectomies and hysterectomies with only Tylenol and ibuprofen it is sick!
I have read over 100 comments. Speaking as someone who had 2 lumbar fusions and is in pain DAILY, I hope you are reading these Dr. I talk to ppl all the time about this topic. I believe Dr's are doing more harm than good. Making real pain patients feel like there is NO hope anymore. Going to funerals of ppl who would rather take their lives than suffer or end up taking a street drug laced with Fentanyl. Using THC or drowning in Alcohol to help with pain. Please take all the feedback and do something positive with it. Advocate for your listeners as that is so desperately needed.
Thank you for taking the time to read those comments. The pendulum has swung too far, and that is the belief of many in the medical profession. I am not saying it is appropriate to withhold pain medications that are opioid-based. I am simply explaining this perspective that many doctors are prone to having. I want to advocate for safe and appropriate use of these medications. Do you have a particular recommendation?
@@MedicalSecrets Actually you are by pushing the mindfulness and deep breathing crap . Don't you think that we already tried it? If you and the rest of the medical profession had stood up to the government and the CDC guidelines say a one week total walk out nationwide would have stopped this genocide in one day. But your medical license is worth more than a human life. So many of us were told that by doctors who supposedly took an oath to do no harm. Well ,you're killing people doctor. What about my life? Don't you think I worked hard for my degree and career? Doesn't matter now because I am too sick to work anymore . My dr actually giggled and said that opiods would be banned completely. I hope she is paid back for the suffering she's caused. I take great delight in the widows hump growing nicely between her shoulders. You have much to answer for. Doctor. Using the term loosely as your a poor excuse for a doctor and an even worse human being.
well THC is pretty harmless...but ya yer right...Drs. now are so scared they wont help hardly anyone...its terrible...and it applies to benzos too...they are very unwilling to give a script out for them as well...
I deal with chronic pain and have had 24 surgeries. I've undergone and all the pain management classes and my tool box is full of coping techniques. I was taken off of pain medication when my neurologist retired and my GP refused to write for pain medication because she had a patient overdose and die. I'm sorry for the patient and her loss, however I'm not that patient!!! I'm tired of being told no, being tracked by the DEA and undergoing drug testing like a criminal/drug addict. I understand being an advocate for myself, I could write books about it but it's the anger of being kicked to the curb by the medical community and being left in pain and only have Ibuprofen. I liked the bridge/destination explanation. It's a long, long road driven and will see where it takes me.😊
Similar here. Can't take ibuprofen due to GI damage from it. Can't take SSRI or SNRI as have narrow angle glaucoma. Fortunately have been prescribed cannabis which really helps, but doctor is expensive. The drug itself is cheap as I get it subsidised as on disability.
They put down that I am a previous heroin addict in my medical history and i have never used heroin in my entire life. Im seek legal advice for a medical malpractice lawsuit and filing a complaint against the board
I have had rheumatoid arthritis since I was 16, I am 53 now. When I was diagnosed, my doctor told me that the RA that I have was so aggressive that I would be in a wheelchair by the time I was 35. I’m not in a wheelchair yet and I believe that I owe a big thank you to my doctor back in the early 2000’s because she saw the pain I was in all the time. I am a nurse and she was one of the doctors that I worked with. When I actually became one of her patients, she prescribed me hydrocodone 5mg that I could take 3 times a day if I needed it. My dosage has increased slightly in the last 20 years, 10mg 3 times a day, but it allows me to function normally and with bearable pain. Before getting that original prescription, I would cry putting my hair up in a ponytail because it would hurt my shoulders, neck, and other joints so bad.
@@MedicalSecretslooks like prescribing medications that actually help allowed her to continue moving and working. Imagine if she was just given Tylenol. 😂
It's good you had such a compassionate doctor. All you needed was something to help you get through your day. People don't realize that even long term opiate therapy does not mean you need more and more. Addiction and tolerance are 2 different things.
There is another phone call that you may get, but you will never make the connection. Your patient committed suicide but no one can make the connection that they were tired of being in pain. There aren't may studies on suicide cause by chronic pain, but it does occur. I'm willing to bet more than we think.
This doctor is really ignorant. Physical pain caused by a nerve being pinched will NOT respond to any of the holistic treatments he stated. They may reduce blood pressure in the short term but they’ll never replace the relief of pain meds or surgery.
I have had three lumbar spine surgeries. All before the age of 50. I've been dealing with my back, and later polyarthropathy, since my late teens. For decades I avoided opioids because I'm sensitive to medications. I only used them post-operatively or for acute flares. I relied on NSAIDs, heat and muscle relaxers. Eventually, the NSAIDs hurt my stomach and kidneys and I no longer had any other options for pain control besides opioids. I ended up in the hospital about 2 years ago because my back pain and associated radiculopathy had become intolerable. I asked for a small, IM steroid injection to get things to calm down. I never once asked for pain meds other than Tylenol after laying on my back in an MRI machine for almost 90 minutes. I was treated like I was an addict yet I'd been on the same tiny dose of Norco for several years. I ended up leaving the hospital the next morning because I was unable to manage my pain and had spasmed so badly that just holding myself upright in a sitting position caused my muscles to strain and burn like I was doing an insane gym workout. Flash forward a few months of me declining even more and I discovered that I was dealing with high levels of autoimmunity. I have spondyloarthritis and Sjogren's. Immunosuppressive therapy has done wonders but there is so much damage from years of not being treated and doctors assuming I was a drug seeker that I will always need pain medication. So, yeah. Been there, done that. The US healthcare system is a warped joke.
Reading your story makes me even more grateful that when I went to my PCP saying something is wrong and I feel like I've been run over by a truck every day that she ran some inflammatory marker tests, which all came back elevated. Thanks to my rheumatologist I got prednisone treatment and got my life back. My grandma had sjogrens.
@@lynnebucher6537 I'm glad you didn't have to wait long for your doctor to run an ANA titer and all the other sero tests that go with it. I had an ANA titer done about 10 years before the one I had last year that screamed, "AUTOIMMUNE!" It came back positive but barely and because I was seronegative I was told I was fine. The thing is, my Sjogren's is seronegative and psoriatic arthritis, the type of spondyloarthritis I have, doesn't have any definitive tests. If my ANA hadn't been so high I would not have been able to see a rheumatologist who knew the correct questions to ask. How many people, especially women, are being dismissed and called drug seekers when they are truly ill? I get that there is a problem with people getting addicted to pain meds. But this crack down on opioids hasn't helped. More people are dying from heroin and fentanyl than ever before. And now Xylizine, not an opioid but an animal tranquilizer, is making the death count climb even higher. Prescription pain meds aren't the problem. Our societal failings are the problem.
When someone is autoimmune their own immune system thinks that some part of the body is a foreign invader and essentially attacks it. For example, with Sjogren's, my immune system thinks that the glands that produce moisture in my body are foreign. Because of this I have extremely dry skin, severely dry eyes and my mouth doesn't produce much salivia. Immunosuppression is done with the help of different drugs. These drugs slows down the persons immune system or a particular part of the immune system. There are different drugs that are used as immunosuppressants: DMARDs, injectable biologics, biosimilars and infusions. Because autoimmune patients have a suppressed and not very energetic immune system when receiving treatment, we are more susceptible to infections and viruses. It's a bit of a balancing act. Not sure if this helps but I hope it does. Talk to your doctor if you think you are autoimmune. Autoimmunity tends to run in families so you might want to find out if anyone in your family has psoriasis, lupus, rheumatoid arthritis, etc. Best of luck!
Unless you live with chronic pain every single day and night, you cannot understand how frustrating it is when Drs refuse to help you get relief. I got really sick 2 years ago. I was in the hospital for over 2 months. Had colon cancer and multiple complications. I had to go through 4 emergency surgeries. Woke up from the first surgery with a colostomy bag. Had it reversed a year ago, thank the Lord 🙏✝️🙌 I was extremely blessed with a wonderful Dr, and I am so grateful for that. He saved my life. But during the last 2 years, I have so many problems with my left leg, I had to go on disability. Pain 24/7..People don't realize how discouraged you become, knowing this is now your life. Especially, like me.. I was extremely active. Worked 2 jobs and I loved it. I'm now going to physical therapy. My left leg is so much shorter than the right one due to all the scar tissue from all the surgeries. I have an appointment with the orthopedic Dr. I'm not getting my hopes up that they can help me. I have arthritis in my left hip.. Which I'm honestly GRATEFUL all my problems are on the same side. At least my right leg is good. It would be horrible if both were messed up.. We learned about the Healthcare INDUSTRY during C19 didn't we? 🤔
You got that right. As an RN I was shocked at what was exposed in medicine and pharmaceutical industry during that time. I am also discouraged by the incompetency and the attitudes of the younger Drs and Nurses hitting the floor these days. I won't see a Dr under the age of 40🙂
I remember I was not even given opioids right after surgery. I'm allergic to NSAIDS. My family doctor said to not worry when I voiced my concern. The anesthesiologist was confused what to give me and I woke up after anesthesia crying in pain because he could not give me the usual medication. It was such a betrayal that the doctor said not to worry. I knew that could happen. They left me in pain for hours until at least the night nurse gave me one oxicodon tablet. It was such a relief and on the second day I already did not need any pain medication at all. The pain is literally the worst after the surgery and they leave you in pain. First they push opiods on people who don't need them at all for money, then they deny it to people that need it. It's a crazy world we live in.
My mom was in the hospital twice this winter in horrible pain and they let her lay in the hospital for days without giving her ANYTHING. I was outraged. They literally did NOTHING to help her.
I’m very angry over this moronic opiate dilemma which shouldn’t be one at all! First of all, there are many of us out here who truly need pain relief! I recently had a tooth removed,dry socket, then an infection followed…I took OTC ibuprofen & guess what? It tore my gut up for two weeks afterward & did you know Motrin which is just the High RX version eats holes in your stomach needing surgery? Sure does & I suffered even more with the ibuprofen gut & constipation problem along with the infection…how stupid is this? Just give me a strong enough opiate for a week! Seems to me the OTCs are even worse for your liver & kidneys too! They’re nothing but synthetic poisons! There are many of us out here who do not abuse much needed opiate pain meds! Every age needs them,so not just us Seniors, but seniors should be allowed to make our own damned choices especially…I once saw WM refuse to refill a 96 year old woman’s pain meds! Unbelievable! I say give the poor old woman a bottle of bourbon too if she wants it! She lived that long, didnt she? This opioid crap going on is just that…crap! Seems to me, pain is dangerous in itself, causing high bp from resisting & fighting the pain, then a freaking stroke too? We all need to file a class action suit against this crap going on! We’re not street addicts! 😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢
My husband had a rotator cuff repair 4 years ago. The surgeon didn't mention his pain management philosophy until pre-op when he announced that he would not prescribe opiates. He used a pain ball inside the shoulder and rx'd Tramadol. In post op, we found my husband by the SCREAMING he was doing from all his pain. We called our PCP the next day for pain meds because his surgeon refused to write anything. We have no history of addiction, but that didn't matter. Glad to hear you discuss this.
I've been told by orthopedic surgeons that rotator cuff surgery is the worse type of orthopedic surgery to get over and the most painful. I woke up under medicated from fusion of two discs in my neck. I started screaming and the nurse asked if I wanted pain medication...I guess you have to ask for pain meds after major surgery? After many years I still have pain from that surgery!
I asked two surgeons about this before my recent lung wedge resection and ended up eliminating a local surgeon in favor of one three states away because the local surgeon was clearly paranoid about opioid prescriptions and I knew this would be a painful procedure. I received adequate pain meds in the other state and a superior surgeon as well at a well known university hospital. It’s been a month now and I am happy with my decision even though it ended up with a ten hour drive each way. Don’t be afraid to ask about opioid pain meds before selecting a surgeon.
But that’s completely wrong. It can infact be the Drs fault, when you are forced too live in unbearable pain for the REST OF YOUR LIFE. Praise God everyday you don’t have to go through what millions of others are!
I'm a retired BSN RN so I know a bit about what you are talking about. When I was practicing I treated pain because pain is telling us something is wrong and it's the body's way of informing us. Pain after an injury caused by surgery or fall, whatever, causes stress on the body and slows healing. Do you care if the patient heals or not? In this day and time we are not kept in hospital long enough as people were back in the day. Now it's all about in and out and make the most money by ordering tests. Not the head to toe physical assessment from one human to another communicating. The Dr.'s now want no part of communication or assessments. They simply don't give a sh!t, and they don't seem to know what they are doing or care. I'm disabled and retired now, and I am older, so I am becoming more and more invisible. I suffer from chronic pain that will not be going away unless you all learn how to do total body transplants. I never wanted, was actually shocked when I was banned from taking all the OTC pain med.'s because I ended up with acute abd in the ER. Sent to an orthopedic surgeon that put me on hydrocodone and muscle relaxer. I was still working and was so afraid to take these medications and how it would affect my mentation and judgement at work. I worked until I could no longer walk or lift bodies, or even supervise staff. Took me 5 years to get my disability and that took all of my retirement savings. I had always had the responsibility of taking care of family members both physically and financially...Dad was my last one my husband and I had with us. Now my husband takes care of me. And he's 10 yrs my senior. Honestly if they don't stop punishing the patients and take their war on drugs to the streets, I don't see how our older generation will live, or even want to live. I hate the changes in the medical services in the US. I need many things, but we can't afford them. You talk Pt/OT but that is only for the wealthy. Life is hard, and I will welcome the time God takes me Home to Heaven!
@@DarlingBo-bannie Oh hon I hope it wasn't anything I said. Perhaps most humans have times when they'd rather be in Heaven, but it's all in God's hands really. I will pray for you to feel better about your present and future. Call the suicide hotline...I've done it many times and they have always been very sweet to me. If you aren't OK with the one you get ask for a female or whatever you are comfortable with. OK? Pray to Jesus and talk to someone. You matter!
@@lorenrobertson8039 So true about General Practitioners not wanting to communicate with patients. Here in California I've been with my current doctor's office for 5 years. It's always with a PA/NP. I've tried to stick to the same one for continuity-of-care... but there's always some problem. Either I don't really like the PA, or I just don't feel comfortable really sharing anything personal. It sucks because my last doctor was also my friend (he retired). I know I'm getting adequate healthcare, but I miss having a relationship with my doctor on a personal level. After going there for 5 years - that's not the case. It sucks. Get them in/get them out.
I hear you sister!! I’m a former Critical Care Nurse. I’ve had multiple cervical fusions which lead to total nerve damage in my right hand, arm and shoulder. I’ll bet you can’t guess where my original injury occurred?? Yup, lifting a 450lb patient at work . Go figure! Especially because at the time I was less than 100lbs / 4’11” . I ended up herniating C3-T1 , the only problem was the so called orthopedic surgeon treated me for C5-C7 . So my spine was unstable for over a year trying to fight with Workers Comp to allow another corrective surgery to occur by a neurosurgeon, someone who knew something about nerve pain and spines!! Unlike the first quack!! I had a total of 7 surgeries to try to fix the problem of nerve pain but all they did was cause more damage due to scar tissue. This happened back in 2009. I ended up with Fibromyalgia on top of that in 2015. I was being medicated at that time with Oxycodone 10 mg. They tried all of the other poisons they try to push on people like Lyrica, Nuerontin, Baclofen , all that did was make me drool and feel totally disconnected. Because my pain was so severe OxyContin was added to my regimen. It was a Godsend to say the least. Finally, I could function once again as a human being. That was up until that Thursday, when the BS LYING OPIOID CRISIS hit the media!! The DEA ( I was married to an agent when that happened) started harassing all pharmacists who were dispensing Opioids. Some of the Mom & Pop pharmacies closed overnight! What did the pharmaceutical companies do next, they took all effective ingredients out of ALL of the Opioids and replaced them with fillers. Perdue pharmaceutical company almost killed so many people with their fillers! Many had diarrhea, vomiting and cardiac issues and more. People started complaining on their review page . What happened after that?? They took down the reviews and the page . They began to censor everything, no one was allowed to complain or should I say, tell the truth!! I could go on and on… it’s so sad that Nursing is no longer a profession of compassion. This new generation is being taught a whole different ball game. Pain is no longer the fifth vital sign. Pain has become objective rather than subjective. They will dictate what you are feeling and medicate you with Tylenol, ibuprofen or maybe Tramadol , a once over the counter medication that’s now considered an “ opioid “ . I feel your pain . I was also diagnosed two years ago with Babesiosis, similar to Lymes but 10 times worse!! My body is so broken and no one gives a shit. Healthcare is nothing more than another money making institution!! I call hospitals Medical Hotels because that’s what they’ve become. It’s not about healing any longer, it’s about how much money can they make off of each barcode that they scan on your wrist. Like one of the Dr’s I know said, WELCOME TO COMMUNISM. I like to refer to it as Socialism, government controlled medicine!! At 64 years old, I’m just waiting for my number to be called. I have absolutely no happiness or any quality of life anymore!! We are all addicts and I’ve heard some say that we were the cause of the overdoses that occurred. The original problem was a Heroin Crisis, if I’m not mistaken that still exists along with the newest one, fentanyl overdoses!!! 😪
Broke my arm to the point of complete evulsion from my shoulder. About 12 titanium pins placed, not to mention 8 inches of staples. That bas***d surgeon gave me one weeks pain meds. I've had several major surgeries but never pain like that. Clearly he had to know I legitimately needed more. That surgeon will never touch me or family members ever again.
That's all they will prescribe now after a major surgery. You have to call them the day before you run out for a refill. Someone will have to go to the doctors office and pick up the refill prescription. They will not tell you about this.
@@pegs1659 Pegs, I begged him for pain meds. I'm an RN, NOT A DRUGGIE. I honestly felt I was dying. I have an MD friend who gave me a prescription and that was the only reason I survived the torture.
My sister was dying… for years. She was in severe pain and they did not give her anything. WTH she’s dying anyway, let her be pain free. I think it’s cruel and disgusting they allowed her to suffer.
What about those patients who commit suicide because they have excruciating pain daily and the doctors refuse to prescribe pain meds?? I heard a doctor tell this about a patient he had.
Another note: My state stopped covering opiates with certain exceptions. My housemate's friend, who was wounded in combat, got all the coverage for his pain meds taken away. He dealt with the pain for six months until he committed suicide. He told my housemate the night before "I am in so much pain. I can't take it anymore..." Do physicians get those calls, when they commit suicide because of the pain they're in?
I'm sorry about your friend. you ask a good question. Maybe people, instead of calling the crisis line SHOULD call their physicians when they are about to commit suicide. That way the physicians can feel the outcome of their callous restrictions and refusals to treat people. I'm learning that some pain doens't have a cause that you can see. But it is inimaginable that people with visible causes for their pain ALSO cannot get treated. It's so cruel.
Probably not. They don’t care either. I’ve had Drs look at me like”Yeah, right”when I say boldly and honestly that I’ve contemplated suicide from moments enduring the worst pain of my life. I have tried EVERYTHINGGGG, been a lab rat, every procedure since a little girl and even still they look at you sideways like a drug seeker just bc no one wants to go back to the treatment regimen that works for fear of losing their license. Thx DEA. I HIGHLY doubt they care if we off ourselves. I’ve been in and out of hospitals since two years of age. They care about money and themselves, typically. To them, death is just part of the job. God help us all 🙏🏻
I have to add that due to damage from surgeries, I am opiates , due this opiate hysteria I was under treated for two years, lost my job , had no life . Now im properly treated i have a full time job , have studied and gain additional qualifications, a degree and passed a driving test & motorcycle test. Now im a functioning person. Stop labelling all patients based on actions of a couple ! 😮
As the wife of an 87 year old with terrible back pain, I personally don’t care if an addict uses drugs destructively. Don’t take them from those who need and use responsibly.
My old life consisted of traveling to 35 countries with my husband for half the year for his work. While home in PA, I saw my 6 children and 3 grandkids. I worked on our 350 year old house and extensive gardens. I worked in an art store. I was a certified personal trainer and a certified massage therapist. Then I got RSD, now called CRPS, or Complex Regional Pain Syndrome, the most painful chronic condition a human can have (not including injuries.) It can move around the body; it did in my case. First, right shoulder and wrist, so everything I enjoyed doing stopped except seeing family. But now it’s in the worst place possible: my feet. No more travel since I can’t walk. I psych myself up to use crutches at home to get from my bedroom to the bathroom. I’ve been living IN my bedroom for 2 years, only going to doctors. It took me 18 months into the feet CRPS to get some pain meds, on my tele-appt. with my neurologist when I burst into tears and talked about suicide. I’d been his patient for 19 years by then. He prescribed an opioid, but the pain is so severe it just means I can have a very light blanket on my feet in bed. Life shouldn’t be this way when medicine has the answer for people like us. There’s no cure for what I have. My husband (we’re together since’75) has a highly aggressive Stage 4 Prostate Cancer and his chemo is starting to slip. He’s already lived longer than his prognosis, but I want to care for HIM, and he’s still working plus making all my meals and running my medical life because I’m deaf. I can’t use phones to make appts. As for “Medical Secrets?” My GP told me the real one. He said they were discharging ALL chronic pain patients from the practice (I’d been going there for 28 years) because it was too much PAPERWORK. So that left me cold turkey to get off Nucynta and F patches (a high dose; I could actually function!) with no tapering. I just about lost my mind. This was at the very beginning of doctors calling their patients drug-seekers. I’m sorry for the length; I’m in the hospital for asthma with more time on my hands than usual.
Please, for those that feel stupid...what the heck do the initials as a diagnosis mean? I cannot understand exactly what disease you have. God Bless you for all your pain. I completely understand as I am in physical decline as well.
Blessings to you & your husband. You are not alone. I'm right there in both of your situations. I have stage IV metastatic lung cancer w/mets to brain. Plus other chronic pain issues. It's a horrific way that we are "living" if you can call it that. It is the government's fault that the Drs are are of. You can't have too many people in your practice on opioid meds. The pain clinics can't prescribe more than 100mg per day of morphine equivalent. Many had to close their pain practices because the government was threatening to revoke their medical licenses if the gave too many pain scripts. The Drs are afraid. The government meddling in patients previously private medical records & telling Drs what & how to do their jobs is what has everything shut down. Some idiot in a 2014 hospital admission wrote drug abuse in my med. record because my last script before I was thrown out of my Neurologists practice after 8 years, showed up on that stupid government I-stop, I think it's called something like that. The moron just wrote drug abuse without any evidence of ANY drug in my system, blood, or otherwise. I assume his reasoning was that if someone is taking pain medication, they must be an abuser or misuser. I can't get ANY type of Doctor to take me as a patient when they ALL see that. Cancer or no cancer. Spinal cord damage, & other painful issues. I cry alot of the time. The pain in my SI joint is just as bad as the nerve pain in my chest wall. I was even told not to come back to a certain Hospice due to this record. Imagine that I cannot even die in peace. This world has run Amok. I hope you somehow get the care you need. I would leave the US if possible, but I don't have the means. The constitution means nothing anymore. Life, liberty & happiness. Peace & dignity. Where did it go ? Love & peace to you both. My heart hurts for you & with you. Nancy
My former GP who I'd seen for years, had a sign on his desk about being a registered cannabls prescriber. He even mentioned it as well. When I asked if I could be prescribed it as it is suggested as an option for HEDS, he said exactly the same thing. A lot of other bad experiences in his practice actually made me convinced he was trying to get rid of me as a patient, though I was compliant, polite etc. But to advertise and mention cannabis for pain relief and then refuse to prescribe it because he said it was too much paperwork is just cruel. Plus other examples, eg nurse wrote my mother had Down's Syndrome instead of HEDS AFTER I'd explained HEDS to her. Just f..g unbelievable.
I have been on opiates from 30 years old and to the present, 57. And I have had a Dr. or two that tried to get me off I have Reflex Sympathetic Dystrophy or Complex Regional Pain Syndrome. A severe nerve, muscle and pain disease. Of course warned about what opioids combined with Tylenol could do, Ibuprofen 600-800 mg given 2-3 x daily was so pushed to keep my pain more in control. Don't fall for that. I now have Barretts esophagus which basically means I have burned up my esophagus. These Drs. are better off prescribing us with opioids that if they do have Tylenol.. Stop trying to keep us in fear of liver damage. 4 grams per days causes the damage. Why force IBP when the outcome is much more debilitating. Many!! need to go back for a refresher course. And I dare say we in the pain community should be the teacher. And if they fail they will be destined to repeat it!!! Peace and Blessings to All my fellow sufferers!!!
Barret's esophagus may possibly be the result of chronic use of ibuprofen or other NSAIDs. I was on aspirin for about 30 years and was fine until I developed stomach ulcers. It's been 25 years since then and I still can't take any NSAIDs and I still need to take a course of omeprazole or esomeprazole for one week, every few weeks, to keep it under control and prevent further damage to my stomach, duodenum, and esophagus. Opioids do their own kind of damage. Mostly just constipation. That can lead to inguinal hernias, mostly in men but sometimes in women too. You get constipation but the opioids may prevent you from realizing how bad it is. So it is important to eat lots of leafy greens, fresh fruit, use only whole grains, no white flour in any quantity, keep white rice to a minimum, and take Miralax (PEG 3350) and stimulant laxatives such as senna, as needed, and perhaps prophylactically. So get a good, goldilocks amount of fiber in your diet. Also, hypothetically, opioids might accelerate the damage from NSAIDs, because lack of peristalsis in the intestines may cause food to stay in the stomach longer, which may cause an increase the amount of hydrochloric acid secreted into the stomach. That's hypothetical though.
@@soilmanted Thank you for your comment. Yes, I agree with the use of 3 800mg per day is the cause of Barrett's esophagus. Also the pain meds! Them I hear that Celiac disease causes it. This info is so new since I only got diagnosed about 2 years ago. I am saying your comment to over again and again. It's sometimes extremely uncomfortable if it flairs up so I am gluten free and on a carnivore diet, animal products only, no carbs, no sugar and my health is so much better. And never ever on Nsaids again!! Please and Blessings!!🙏💖
@@annanderson1470 wow! Carnivorous diet! I'm doing just the opposite, I eat plant products only.(except for the gelatin capsules that some of my medicines come in) and we are both still alive! Wonderful how adaptive human beings are, to different diets. That's why zoologists call us omnivores. Like our relatives the pigs (whose digestive system are similar to ours) we can survive on anything. I'm not convinced that a pure carnivore diet is sustainable long term due to the high level of animal fat. Will it cause atherosclerosis? Yes so will plant oils. I recently drastically reduced my consumption of plant oils. Little or no in oil or shortening form. Nothing fried. I add small amounts of blanched almond butter or sesame seed butter (tahini) to some food, like for example salad dressing. And I put walnuts in my oatmeal. Walnuts have omega 3 fatty acids, which we need, as well as the omega 6 fatty acids that are the most common in the foods of the industrialized west. I'm not sure what kind of fatty acids are in dairy products and animal fat. I'll have to look it up. Thank you for your post. It was interesting. I know close to nothing about celiac disease. While we have a digestive system typical of an omnivore,, I think we should be careful about concluding from that an omnivorous diet is the best for us. All you have to do to understand that things are more complicated that they might seem, is look at the digestive system, and the diet, of the chinese panda bear.. It has a digestive system typical of a carnivore, yet in the wild eat eats almost nothing but a single type of bamboo shoot -.like bamboo shoots and bamboo shoots all day and nothing else. It also creates an unusually large amount of poop. Would it be healthier if it ate some animal flesh? Could it even digest animal flesh. I have no idea. Its existence serves as a warning to people who jump to conclusions. Looks like a carnivore. but it ain't. I'm not sure if it has any ability to stalk and attack prey animals. Lack of such abilities might be the reason it doesn't do that.
@@soilmanted Just got my blood work back and the Dr. was so pleased with it. First time I didn't have statins pushed down my throat, good cholesterol was excellent., bad was the same. Electrolytes were great which was off balance before. Celiac, my friend, has caused me severe diarrhea, bloating, heartburn for 34 years. Everything I ate came straight out and at times up. The carnivore diet changed that within days. Also with Barrett's esophagus, it's been tough but I am feeling tremendously better. And finding this Drs. podcast has helped me so much!! To God be the Glory because now at rest and peace and my body is healing.. Please research carnivore because so much is lacking in your diet and was in mine as well. We need fats from real butter not oils. I didn't eat hardly any meat and my body was not producing certain hormones that causes our bodies to function properly. I wish you all the best. I will tell you that the government has lied to us especially about the food pyramid. Amongst other things. Peace and Blessings to you and your family 🙏😊
@@annanderson1470 Well, good luck on your journey. "We need... butter." Many East Asians and Southeast Asians have lived for 1000's of years without any dairy products. Keeping mammals and milking them just was not part of their culture. That seems to probably be why lactose intolerance is so common among these people - being unable to digest lactose did not affect their ability to survive and reproduce so those who for one reason or another could no digest lactose, survived. JSame is true for descendants of many sub-Saharan African tribes. Just a little bit to the west, people in India depended heavily on dairy, but would not kill their cows. How do you kill your adoptive mother who nursed you for years? You don't You take care of her. Some sub-Saharan tribes like the Maasai were, and some still are, nomadic cattle-herders and ate plenty of dairy products. Cow milk is low in iron; adults need iron to live; blood from mammals is high in iron; Maasai not only milked their cows, but bled them too. Then they mixed the milk and blood together and drank it. I think they also fermented this mixture too, I don't recall. And they killed their cows, but not often. I'm guessing - when they couldn't produce milk anymore? I'm just guessing. I don't remember. I took some cultural anthropology courses. I had been involved for a short time with a group that was providing services for Maasai people. Supposedly without trying to promote Christianity or convert anyone. The Maasai have their own set of religion-like cultural beliefs and ideas about the what and why of being human.
Yeah had an ALIF and the pain management was so poor I ended up having a mental break and paid thousands in therapy. I’m terrified of doctors now and will never trust one again.
The development of "Chronic Pain Syndrome" is often caused by patients suffering unnecessarily for long periods of time because the doctors do not treat the pain in a timely and dose-appropriate manner.
2 years ago I hade heart bypass surgery. During the surgery the surgeon dislocated one of my ribs. The day I was sent home the nurse came in to remove ivs UNHOOKED ME FROM A MORPHINE PUMP, sent me home with a known dislocated rib, a wired together sternum with Tylenol 3. All night all I could do was set at the front edge of our sofa, I couldn't lie down or sit back. My wife stood in front of me while I clutched on her and cried, sometimes screaming and begging her to bring my pistol because the pain was truly unbearable. When the surgeons office finally returned our call the next morning we were told all he was authorized to prescribe was Tylenol 3. I was loaded up and taken to the ER just to get relief from pain they seem to forget their oath FIRST DO NO HARM. I detest doctors now
This was a topic on a radio station one day. People were calling in, talking about either not being able to get relief, or either how they needed relief everyday. Then a woman called in and said she didn't think people needed pain medication. Oh my, that woman caught hell! One man called and said he was 67 yrs old, still worked using a shovel and took one pill a day to get him thru his work, and that she probably sat behind a desk painting her fingernails and sprinkled her ideology on the world! It got worse than that, but I was right there saying get her!! Get her!!
My father in law who is 80 yrs old and is still working 20 hrs a week. He has had a double hip replacement about 6 yrs ago. I told him to go in and ask for a prescription of 10 pills! He has never asked or used any pain medication and I'm pissed they refused to give him anything. He even said he didn't want it monthly, just something for when the pain was to bad to sleep or do anything after he got off work.
As an RN I call tell you I have seen so many patients in the last few years become suicidal from terrible, chronic pain, that could be treated. The younger doctors especially, do not believe that people can really suffer from chronic and acute pain. I don't know what's going to happen with the current trends in pain management, but there has to be a middle ground between neglect and pain management
Hi doc, I need to be honest as soon as I saw this video it was a med ptsd trigger, but only wanted to share one thing cause I can’t continue to watch at moment. This topic is So difficult for me and others to handle, one can hardly give a “legit” comment via youtube… I will say something I learned as a young officer in the military was that whenever someone leads a sentence with”with all do respect “ I know I’m NOT going to get the level of respect I command, and 9/10 doctors lead with it once pain meds come up…. Please 🙏 don’t take this as a bash against you, it’s just to “painful “ of a topic… just that simple… Chris
We used to consider pain as the 5th vital sign in treatment. Dr's are afraid to prescribe. It's ridiculous . Let us have some relief. Orthopedic nurse , retired. 72 now with all sorts of arthritis myself. I just need a narcotic to get comfortable at night so I can sleep. One pill a day is all I need , and want , and deserve.
Took my mom to ER one Vicodin every 6 hours was doing nothing. Turns out she has a kidney stone and it’s blocked the kidney stent. Gee, she wasn’t exaggerating about her pain.
@@chanelv5373 it truly is and it’s soul crushing to see a person suffer. She will have surgery tomorrow. She was a psychiatric RN for almost 40years. She took care of people and she deserves the care as well. She truly loved being a nurse. I remember onetime one of the patients walking around cheerfully saying “bingo Ritaanne is my nurse”!
One of the best and most caring, compassionate, and helpful pain specialists in my country, who is also an addiction specialist, has twice been called into the coroner’s court, after two patients (years apart) were found dead from meds he prescribed. He was dragged over the coals twice and fortunately continued to work and teach in his field. I know these were some of the most stressful experiences of his life, yet he still prescribes durable and appropriate pain relief, including opiods, where necessary. It know it is is a difficult tightrope for him to walk on a daily basis. It is a great shame that so many doctors err too far on the side of caution, leaving some patients with inadequate treatment for their chronic pain.
Over the past few years in dealing with neuropathy and afib, I've seen what feels like a million different doctors and I've come to realize that most doctors really don't care. They don't listen, they just want your money.
Omg you just mentioned Ehlers Danlos Syndrome!!! I can’t believe you know about EDS! Thank you for acknowledging a little known, debilitating disorder. I have classical EDS and severe pain but stopped taking narcotic pain meds on my own. I didn’t want to have to take medication to function as I’m only 45. However, now that I stopped daily narcotics, no one will prescribe them again. I’m drinking more alcohol instead to help the pain because I don’t have any other way to control the pain. I’m disabled from my career as a nurse due to chronic injuries in almost all my joints and I miss it so much! I don’t have much hope for my journey in pain management but thank you for this video and being such a caring doctor!
CBD oil has helped a lot of patients, including me. Howard Levy Gene Review 2014 updated article on Ehlers Hypermobility recommends it if that helps you get it.
I noticed that he mentioned that too and it was refreshing as someone who believes that I have it and I’m going through the diagnosis process now. But I’m also disappointed about how he talks about patients here. Because I’m on opioids for my pain control and I hate how they make me feel but I’ve been on opioids on and off for decades now. I would love to be able to function without them but I just don’t think that’s a reality for me. I get tired of being treated like I’m a drug seeker by medical professionals and recently I had to endure a heart catheterization with very little sedation and no pain medication. It was to repair a atrial septal defect but it was so incredibly painful and I felt everything!!! They refused to help me during and immediately following my procedure and I was in tears 😭 through the entire experience. Doctors are doing real harm when they treat patients this way and it certainly doesn’t help with healing. I’m being slowly weaned down from the higher dose of medication that I’m on and although my doctor is going slowly….. I worry about where I’ll end up by the time I’m at a “safer” dose.
@@jellyfishattack I’ve tried Marijuana and it does help me. I live in a state where recreational use is legal. But I do have to be careful with it because it can and often does make me sleepy, even if it’s a sativa. So I tend to only use it as a last resort.
I have EDS and the combination of low dose naltrexone and gabapentin has helped my pain. I also highly suggest prolotherapy to repair damaged ligaments/joints
I could not agree with these statements more! Until you know what it feels like to live in constant pain, unrelenting pain, don't make us pay for the abusers.
Doctors are more concerned about keeping their license than prescribing pain meds. I get it. It is their livelihood. I used to go to the ER like it was my second home, lost all my veins and had five ports than all got infected when they could have given me pain killers. I only get one pill daily from four pills daily and a patch so now I am suffering daily. Addiction is a chronic illness so they are sick too but unfortunately they are causing pain patients to be medical nomads and a lot of us are killing ourselves. I meditate daily, exercise, go to therapy, and eat well, but I am still in pain. I get abused by the medical system all the time. Marijuana has not helped and only gives me an appetite. I am still thankful that one pill. Thanks for sharing your content.
Also to note they have begun sending patients to Nurse practitioners so that they cannot prescribe pain rx's. IMHO until they start calling the "Opioid crisis" what it really is there is no end to this. Heroine and Fentanyl addictions, and the drugs addicts that abuse anything they can get their hands on have created hell for those who responsibly used opioids in conjunction with other health measures.
@@antoniobravo892 Nothing will change until the addict to just get high and live on the street enabling ends. They coddle the addicts who choose to live that way and punish the legit patient in pain.
I know from experience that NP's can and do write prescriptions for opioids in Colorado! It must be a law in the State you live in that does not allow the Nurse Practitioner's to write these prescriptions? Check with the MD in the practice that oversee these NP's if they are licensed to write these prescriptions, they may just be misleading you into thinking they can not, that way they don't have to deal with doing it?
I went to the ER for burning pain, the Doctor gave me a shot of some kind of pain killer then sent me home with a few pain pills, the very next morning I was back in the ER for the same pain but it was worse, the hospital made me sit for four hours in terrible pain, now mind you I took only one of the pain meds he gave me the night before. After waiting for four hours the nurse took me to the back and did not give me a small room to wait for the Dr, she stood me in the hallway and to my surprise the same Dr that treated me the night before walked up to me and I quote he said why are you here? I said my pain is worse he then said I told you I could not help your back last night then walked away from me, I was pissed because I knew he thought I was there for drugs!! When he walked away I said to him come back here and he did I lifted the back of my shirt and said what is this on my back? He looked and said oh you have shingles, he did come to me with a shot for pain then said I am sorry I never looked at your back last night.. So these Doctors need to stop treating all people like we are all on drugs.
I'm about to give up. I can't handle this pain anymore. I've never been addicted to anything my entire life. I've known so many drug addicts, and went through a living hell trying to help them. All the doctors I'm seeing are treating me with absolute cruelty.I am at my end.
I'm so tired of being treated like I am the reason for the opioid problem. I have fibromyalgia, a 30 year old back injury with DAILY sciatic nerve pain. I have arthritis in my neck and the rest of my back. I'm in pain all the time. I've tried all the other options out there. I've also had gastric bypass, so, I am not supposed to take any NSAIDS. I'm told I can get biofeedback (it's not in my head!) And acupuncture (seriously?!) I'm an RN. I'd rather not be in pain and have to take anything. My pain is legit. This is insane. I may be physically addicted to meds while I'm on them. But, I'm able to easily wean myself off. I'm not jonesing for my next fix. I just want to have pain relief. My options are limited. Why should we have to pay the price for the few that abuse it.
I'm in the same situation and your dependant, not addicted. Addicted is when you ignore doctors instructions and start taking more and more on your own. Yes , if dependant you have to taper off them. They took me off opiods and give me gabapentin. Only problem is it gives me little pain relief and after looking it up find out it's addictive, can have severe withdrawals, even seizures. Gee, doesn't that sound much better. Now everyone I talk with is taking gabapentin. I think it's just doctors trying to ease their guilty consciences.
It's an accepted fact that prohibition created fentanyl. It's called the iron law of prohibition. It also created the hepatitis and HIV outbreak because when opium and heroin are cheap, people take it orally or smoke it, they don't shoot it.
Doctors who see you as a whole person and check how you are in other parts of your body, including your mind, is so valuable and rare. Sometimes the patients themselves don’t know that they are struggling beyond a point where they are at risk of hurting themselves. Sometimes it takes a genuinely caring person to ask the right question to open the door that leads to a whole person recovery. Especially when we know that some of our physical symptoms, including chronic pain, can be caused by or influenced by our mental health, especially trauma. It’s so difficult to find a holistic doctor who isn’t just trying to treat one or two symptoms in isolation but to realise that a holistic approach is needed to address the root cause of the suffering of the person. I wish I didn’t have to educate myself and go through so much medical trauma to realise this is what I need, and even then I haven’t had much luck finding someone who is willing to oversee my whole body care. And when I bring the insights I gained from my experience and research to the discussion about my treatment options, it seems to turn a number of doctors off who gives off the “I’m the qualified doctor here, what you learned off the internet is just b.s”. They never bother to learn that I have a degree in human anatomy and a postgrad in science, or that I know my own body better than they do. Many of them aren’t even keeping up with the latest research and it shows. 🫤
I think splitting medicinal practices into departments like neurology, podiatry, dermatology, etc. Well, poor pcp's are no longer to be knowledgeable about rotator cuffs that require surgery or a woman's debilitating cramps. Too many wonderful treatments are available, and the knowledge changes often
@@carolgibson-wilson4354 I believe you are spot on! I have 13 doctors and I am blessed to have almost all of them under the same hospital group. They all have a separate patient portal for their practice yet there is a main hospital chart they are able to look at. It still makes things difficult for things like after a surgery-I have had 25 so far-because I had to sign a "pain contract" with my PCP meaning outside of the hospital I can only get pain meds from him. Even though I am blessed to have an amazing PCP & Orthopedic Surgeon, who has done most of my surgeries it is still difficult to get through all the red tape & all. I'm also on a Fentanyl patch all the time so any post-op pain meds are on top of them, as well as needing a higher dose to help surgical pain. It is difficult at best.
This particular observation is interesting. During the beginning of the pandemic, I met with many of my specialist physicians via FaceTime. Prior to my scheduled FaceTime call, I would get nervous and speed clean certain areas around me. Then I had a lightbulb moment…a doctor can better understand pain scenarios I a, describing if they can see the “who, what, where, when and how” of my triggering event. So, I would walk the doctor through a particular scenario that was new to my history and my rheumatologist noted a location where I could easily add a support part to mitigate weight bearing on joints due to balance issues. Another specialist helped me factor in weakness in a particular muscle group which led to excess pain in the “rescuing” body parts/areas. There are a number of articles in the ether touting the benefits of virtual visits but I haven’t seen any noting it’s assistance in diagnosing pain changes caused, in part, from a patient’s environment and their use of said environment.
I used to go to a pain clinic and I was on the Fentanyl patch but I couldn't get anything for breakthrough pain and was on a pain contract with them. Therefore I could not get anything from my PCP or any other doctors. I had broken ribs and broke my back and I contacted my Dr at the pain clinic. The nurse contacted me and said "we don't treat broken bones!" I was livid! I left the clinic and my PCP helped me with my pain! Ridiculous!
Having questioned a few pain clinics and researched them and their conditions I wouldn't touch them. Waste of time, money and they treat you like your a drug addict, though medically diagnosed with a painful disorder. They seem intent on taking you OFF opiates and CBD oil which help me. Even tramadol update.
As someone who's dealt with fibromyalgia for almost a decade, it got to a point where I believed that anyone who has a medical degree is psychopathic in some way. I come from a medical family, so believe me, the doctor and the person are two different things, and the doctor-side of the person is completely psychopathic. And I think you are a good doctor, but to assume that a doctor's anxiety is more important than the patient's wellbeing... That's a new low for me. I thought I could ignore the pain I live with, until the natural pain-response system gave me serious hypertension, serious brain fog, limited ability to work due to migraines and jacked my system till I needed more intense therapy... The muscle weaknesses from hypertension meant I couldn't even brush my teeth normally. And, I was so skinny, I was bony. Since it was too painful to have food in my stomach, I would stick to sipping water,and after a while I couldn't even tolerate it. I couldn't sleep, but I was too exhausted when I was awake. And what everyone was concerned about was me getting "addicted"... So I was denied treatment. Not just pain meds, but even the neurological ones!!! And I'm supposed to compare all that suffering to a doctor's anxiety?? What about my anxiety? What about my feelings when the only way out of my pain is jumping off a balcony?? What about feeling suicidal because you'll never get well, yet you are punished for needing treatment??? You are not serving people when you let a huge amount suffer because of the sins of a few (which, btw, happened because you doctors got too greedy and took money from a pharmaceutical company, forcing the public to make laws to deal with that greed!!)
Fibromyalgia, diabetic neuropathy AND chronic nerve pain from strokes. I'm getter approval for an electrical spinal nerve stimulator implant, as this WEEK, I've slept less than 2 hours (not one second last three nights) from the pain. I have a great church friend who is a retired teaching physician. His wife has had degenerative rheumatoid arthritis for 40+ years and has been bed-ridden most of that time. They have her on a spinal pain opioid pump to survive. Too many med students today learned at the "Dr. Mengele" skrul of torture.
No, there is a disconnect today in the typical GP office. I had one doctor ask me, when my appointment was because my pain was unbearaable, "Have you tried not thinking about the pain?" I lost my mind, I hobbled up from my chair and said, "Excuse me, I need to leave before I do something I will regret." She did ths IN FRONT of a either a student or resident. When I asked if marijuana might be a solution for the pain, this doctor said no she was afraid I woujld overdose? Overdose of marijuana? There is NO evidence to suggest such a feat has EVER happened but I would LOVE to try. Maybe THEN my pain would be under control.
Don't do that. As in, try with thc or anything else. First because you're valuable, but answering directly to overdose on THC, I've smoked so much the world wouldn't stop spinning, I was having panic attacks, and eventually passed out, or rather fell asleep forcefully. It was unpleasant.
I’ve started making and using wild lettuce tincture to use with Tylenol. I am pleased with the results. I have a healthy disrespect for the medical doctors since Covid. I have a complete lack of respect for my orthopedic surgeon after the last shoulder replaced r/t pain management. He gave me 5mg Norco after surgery and expected it to do wonders. I am an RN and worked for 11 years on a chemical detox unit, so I know about addiction. This was just plain cruel. I’ll never go back to him.
I’m a nurse also and if I need surgery that is one first thing I will ask my surgeon- what type of pain medication do you subscribe after surgery and how many pills do to give? I have seen too many patients that don’t get adequate pain control after surgery anymore and I think it’s a crime.
I never understood why people feel a buzz using hydrocodone. It barely takes edge off my severe back, neck and shoulder pains. RN and took too many punches from patients causing fibro, DDD and arthritis. Retired now and pain is just as bad as when I was working.😢
@@vickidickinson2888 I never get a buzz from narcotics. They just dull the pain. In my early days of migraines which I would get at least every two to three weeks ( and they lasted 3 days), I had to go to the ER for Demerol injections. I was given 100 mg. After that I felt no pain or drowsiness and I could eat without nausea. Thankfully, Imitrex came out and I never had to go to the hospital for Demerol again!! And yes, you could feel the attitude that I was just drug seeking. I wanted them all to get a migraine just like mine several times and see how they felt about it then. Morphine is highly overrated along with Oxycontin in my opinion. The only narcotic that makes me sleepy and unsteady is Deluded.
@@vickidickinson2888 As someone that has dealt with opiod addiction I can tell you this, if you are in true pain, you don't get a buzz or feel high from it, but if you are not in true pain (minor pain, take more than you should with moderate to severe pain, etc.) then you will feel the buzz/high. I kicked the addiction several years ago, cold turkey, but I have been perscribed opoids since then and never abused them. Took the correct dosage for the amount of pain I was in.
The most frustrating part of this whole fiasco are those who are more concerned with criminals who, guess what? Do CRIMINAL things, and pay the price. Then those of us dumb suckers who are lucky enough to end up with cancer are not allowed access to effective pain management due to criminals being criminals. The DEA's own numbers show that deaths in Rx-provided opioids are well under 10%. While every death represents someone's son, daughter, mother or other loved-one, the absolute and complete disregard for medically-necessary pain relief only to protect criminals is appalling. Once again, Government organizations, with absolutely no medical training, are making rules and regulations to protect stupidity and criminal actions at the expense of medical patients who many times have no alternatives. I DEMAND that the DEA and HHS put medical necessity ahead of criminal activity results and start serving those who deserve it most. Many times doctors are simply not willing to wade through the the regulatory BS required by govt agencies... too bad the criminals aren't held accountable to those same standards. A return to fairness, compassion and concern for patients MUST be required by those pencil-pushers who face no real consequences. I'll bet those attitudes will change when, God forbid, their own family member gets diagnosed with pain-relief-requiring conditions. Remember Ronald Reagan's prophetic warning: "I'm from the government and I'm here to help."
I'm a nurse, retired. I've had 2 back surgeries. I have neuropathy. Everything thing I've said about chronic pain I've had to eat my words. I'm in 3rd stage chronic kidney failure from taking Ibuprofen for ten years. I'm 71 years old. My body is almost wrecked. I do good if I get 4 hours of sleep at night.
Ibuprofen has also been proven to cause heart problems if taken longer than 2 weeks. People need to educate themselves about OTC drugs, too. One of my aunts is a retired RN and thankfully has good relationships with the doctors she worked with who will prescribe her opioids when needed (she has chronic knee pain from working 12 hour shifts). My PCP won’t give me anything stronger than Tylenol 3’s for my chronic neck pain (disk injury) and my insurance company will only allow me 28 per month. 😮 PCP says anything stronger would have to be prescribed by a pain clinic…which would require MRI/X-ray/CT scan - it’s a racket for money.
I was being sarcastic btw. I'm so sorry to hear that. My Dr actually admitted that there were no known long term health consequences for tramadol (other than addiction), but there WAS for Tylenol and ibuprofen. I'm type 1 diabetic with gastroparesis, history of peptic ulcers, edema, an occasional build up & inflammation in my liver, and minor protein spillage. But it's better for my drs to put further stress on my organs with 800 mg of Ibuprofen 2x a day & max Tylenol vs continuing a medication (tramadol) I maintained at the *same exact dose, same time each day* for yrs. Bc who knows, my risk for addiction could all the sudden appear out of nowhere after yrs of demonstrating that addiction was/is not my fight in life. For some it is, but it was never for me. Quality of life is a non issue for them. It's kind of cruel, condemning ppl to a lifetime of pain and a reduced quality of life bc of the fear (not proof) that we are all the same. I thought medicine was supposed to be data based rather than paranoia based.
Why aren't docs held accountable to national mandates as well as their own hospital guidelines....the latest CDC, FDA, DEA,ETC say in language a 3rd grader could understand -which medications MUST BE SLOWLY tapered off and never abruptly stopped !!!!
Because the cdc also said that the guidelines were JUST RECOMMENDATIONS and ONLY for new opioid patients ONLY under primary care…..and they didnt listen to that either. They do what the STATE tells them to do instead of what they know from years of treating patients. They are COWARDS.
You seem like a caring individual, and I need this to be clarified: when the body reaches a certain level of pain well beyond the little 1 to 10 scale that we always have to fill out, which is fine for gauging normal pain, I understand that; however, individuals in the medical field need to understand those who must live and attempt to function in their daily lives once that 1 to 10 scale no longer applies to said patient, they must find a realistic solution. If someone is past that point, doctors need to understand that chronic acute pain must be effectively controlled for the individual to even remotely live a semblance of a normal life, like getting out of bed, taking a shower, going to work, or even going to the grocery store. People must be able to control debilitating pain enough to get to their doctor's appointments; to simply live day to day. Not everyone who takes the "evil" or "demonized" opioids is a drug addict wanting to get high. That mindset comes from media outlets sensationalizing "opioid drug use on the rise in this country" news stories for views, whilst at 5:00, you will find 90% of these same people at happy hours after work daily or having cocktail parties at home. It's an absurd double standard that needs to stop. It's, "Oh, look at them over there popping pills; just don't pay any attention to me taking shots from my flask." mentality, and it's not correct. Eric Clapton said it best: "Before you accuse me, take a look at yourself." The blanketing effect needs to stop because the majority of people with severe constant 24 hour pain daily just want to be able to get dressed, go outside, and play with their dogs for an hour. They just want to live some kind of "normal" life. They're not drug addicts looking for their next fix. Yet again, the pendulum is being swung too far in one direction, so everyone gets lumped together and thrown under the bus. The mindset that everyone who takes the "Devil's Pills" is now squished under this hand towel is simply incorrect and must change. Be the doctor who elevates this radical point of view, because that would be refreshing. When you have to beg for a Benadryl or a cancer patient has to beg for a nausea medication they know actually works-even the doctor knows it works-but they have to fight those primary physicians and primary NPs for these things, the system is clearly broken. Hopefully, this will inspire people to be part of the solution instead of continuing to be part of the blindingly obvious problem. These doctors believe they all know what to do for themselves and their loved ones in regards to handling pain without certain medications. Until they, themselves, or their loved ones go beyond that 10-point scale, they do not understand what actually needs to be done, and I know they will all be first in line to get those "demonized" medications that are in reality not so evil.
I wish doctors would do away with the stupid 1-10 pain scale. Pain is somewhat subjective. My level 5 might be someone else’s 3 or 7. There are physical markers when someone is in moderate to severe pain - elevated blood pressure being the main one.
@grumpyoldlady_rants people with chronic pain can be in excruciating pain and not have it show up on vital signs. It's not a realistic option. Asking the 1-10 pain scale thing is helpful, even regarding the subjective nature, because you can judge if a pts pain has been lower relative to when it was worst, etc. The best gauge is a conversation about the impact the pain is having on someone's life, but a number is helpful to just know if it's been going up or down. It's not perfect, but it has its uses.
@yuyiyo911, I'm going to step in here for a moment, I'm the one who left the original comment 3 months ago. (Little late to the party, ain'tcha?) First, getting "hurt" in video games doesn't actually hurt. It's not real. Sorry, if that bursts your bubble, but it's true. I just popped onto your little page for a tick. It's obvious you have not experienced acute, chronic pain yourself otherwise. You would be fully aware of how archaic and useless that little chart is especially when dealing with acute, chronic pain. That chart no longer applies to us. Give it to someone with the sniffles. For those who deal with real-life acute, chronic pain 24/7 365, a 10 would feel like eating ice cream whilst riding a pink and purple sparkly unicorn on top of a double rainbow with Beyonce and a neverending basket of puppies and kittens. Since that's tragically not the case, and you have obviously never personally experienced the over 10 on that ridiculous pain scale. Kindly rejoin the conversation when you have the slightest clue what you are talking about. Cheers.
And some people are more resistant to pain medication than others. As a Natural Redhead, I've had several medical people confirm that it takes MORE of all kinds of pain killers to affect me. Yet, I still run into doubters who tell me I couldn't possibly be in that much pain, even though a BP reading would tell them differently. Physicians, etc. need to LISTEN to their patients, and not just blow us off as unknowing idiots.
Exactly! I'm also a redhead. Everything that they say about us is true. I had a huge amount of dental work in 2002. I was well treated because Dr was aware of redhead genetics and pain med reactions. 🧡
This is a well-documented phenomena for redheads. Usually, it's been my experience, that the anesthesia department staff seem to be the most knowledgeable within the medical community. Thank the stars!!!
I’m a natural redhead. My experience with pancreatitis earlier this year and a surgery 2 weeks ago showed me that I have the constitution of an ox when it comes to painkillers. For the pancreatitis, I got 100mcg Fentanyl IV on the ambulance (divided into 2 50mcg doses), received 4mg IV morphine every 2-3 hours, and refused to go home unless I had the 10/325 Lortabs. I didn’t sleep until I got home and had 2 additional lortabs. On my surgery 2 weeks ago, I was getting 4mg IV dilaudid, 4mg oral dilaudid, and 650mg Tylenol simultaneously. It wasn’t enough, but I only asked for it when it made me writhe. I’m a hospice nurse. I always, always listen to my patients about pain, even before all of this 2023 personal pain jazz. Because EFF that.
Not a redhead, but have the gene that makes you metabolize pain relief quickly. They have trouble at times keeping me anaesthetised because of this. One procedure was ceased due to this.
This is why people don't trust doctors, myself included, anymore. We don't go to the doctor to have our symptoms masked, we go to get answers as to what is causing the pain, and to remediate that pain. Unfortunately, there are many disorders for which there is no cure or treatment, such as fibromyalgia. Especially, for sensitive patients. To the point that our livers are destroyed from having to take OTCs to try to get ourselves to a tolerable level. God forbid that you have multiple pain disorders. They all treat you like a drug-seeking bum. The only things doctors are good for, is emergency trauma. That's why I just say, "To hell with the lot of you.". If I have to diagnose and treat myself, what the hell do I need an asshole human being with an ego issue, for? So, yes. I have educated myself, better than a doctor minus the degree, because I can't count on or trust a physician to even correctly diagnose an issue. I really wish there was a device that we could hook ourselves and the doctor up to, and then transfer our pain onto...just so that they can experience what its like trying to function living inside our body.
Here in Arizona we have urgent care facilities that have signs stating they do not give any pain medication. My ex- husband 70 yrs old and works as an arson investigator. He was investigating a fire and fell at the scene. He went to urgent care and he had 2 fractured ribs and they told him ‘sorry our policy is we don’t prescribe anyone pain meds’ and told him to go to the ER. Luckily he called his PCP and he ordered him some tramadol. He ended up staying in a hotel for 2 days so he could take the pills and get the pain under control so he could drive back home from the fire scene 6 hours away.
@Shelley.....it's been my observation that no one gets what FMS is like unless they get it. THEN they're like 😳💩😳💩😔😭😭😭😶. So, yes, I admit I've wished it on ppl just so their holier than thou prick self can learn compassion! 😐
Truth. This is a big reason for loss of trust and respect for drs. The sad thing is the brave/ knowledge able/ most desperate will get medication on the street- and that can be laced with scary stuff and cause odd bc you don’t know what you are taking. Doctors are the cause of these deaths.
My paraplegic uncle committed suicide in April 2021 after months of begging for some relief. His doctor accused him of being a drug seeker because he wasn't given enough to actually help him. That man never took pain meds until his 60s. He was 70 when he passed. The neglect his doctor showed is unforgivable & inexcusable. Period. Doctors, stop treating every single person in pain like they're drug addicts! Just stop. Not treating pain is literally killing your patients.
How awful! Yes, people die of overdoses, but people such as your uncle are dying too, dying for relief instead of doctors giving them relief. This has got to stop! I'm so very sorry for your loss, and that your uncle had to resort to this.
I get it. I don't want to die but understand why your uncle did it. Now fortunately getting relief with CBD oil prescribed by registered provider, discounts due to age / disability pension on meds and consultation in Australia
It has increased suicides, as you have experienced. I’m sorry your Uncle didn’t get the needed pain meds. It would perhaps turn things around if this was fought thru the courts. Idk It is actual Torture of patients….anyone know of a way to get this noticed by anyone in power who cares??
My Dr asked if I've gone to a pill mill yet. Apparently they'd rather you do that. Trigeminal Neuralgia is a b!+¢#!! No one should have to go thru that type of pain. It is literally called "suicide disease".
I'm sorry. He was cast aside by the medical system. Im truly sorry
Personally I feel that the medical system is failing people whom actually have pain. They are no longer getting treated properly, they are suffering pain because the doctors refuse to prescribe pills that may have addiction. It's sad, we have tools to help yet we force them to suffer. I'm speaking for myself. I have a really messed up back and have had neck surgery and injections and radio ablation and yet I am destined to simply suffer because they are preventing me from a possible addiction. I swear I feel like a class action needs to fix this. If I am ok with the risks and know the side effects and decide that I will take a pill during the morning to start work, and another at night to sleep the doctors should do their jobs not condem me to miserable pain. You want to know what is depressing? Try being in pain all your life and being treated like a drug addict for asking for pain pills.
I'm right there with you. I'm in enough pain for surgery to fuse joints, but not enough to get any pain medication. so I can't even pretend to walk like a normal person anymore.
The problem comes when they treat everyone the same. Everyone is not the same and we do not all have addictive issues. My husband had open heart surgery. They sent him home drugged up on morphine five days later and told him to take Tylenol and do his breathing exercises. Next morning he could barely breathe from pain, let alone use the exercise tube. I called and they told me had to come in to the office. This was 6 days after open heart surgery. I freaked out on them bad. I ended up contacting the patient advocate counselor and she was furious and read them the riot act. She said he could have had heart failure from lack of oxygen on a healing heart. Within an hour, we had the pain meds he needed delivered to our door. It's gotten insane.
You need to find a true pain doctor. I go to one that will prescribe whatever you need as long as you’re in real pain of course which sounds like you are. If you want to message me, I would be happy to share who my doctor is with you privately
Couldn't agree more. Being left to suffer like this while practically begging for help is inhumane. If we had pets and made them go without anything to ease their suffering we would be charged with animal cruelty and neglect and would be prohibited from ever even having a goldfish the rest of our lives. What do they get for allowing people asking for help to suffer? A pat on the back and told "Great job, you'll run this place someday"
Exactly.
It’s sickening when you realize there’s medication that will help you, but no one will help you. 😢
They do the same thing with adderall. I've been suffering for over 4 years now.
@@justins3810 you’re so right.
It is so sad their are so many suffering because of people who take advantage.
I have Fibromyalgia when it is real bad I take Devil's claw. For depression and anxiety, sleeping problems I will take Passion flower. We have to take it into our own hands the doctors aren't helping. Boswella is another Herb that helps with pain. It's always wise to do research to see if the Herb does not mix with whatever medicine you are taking. I have chosen not to take any conventional medication to only take herbs just to be safe but some people can't do that.
Then you need to go to the USA, Fentanyl, Oxy, Morphin, you get everything you want.
Capitalism made it possible.
It's maddening. Meanwhile you're condemned to live with debilitating anxiety, pain, inability to focus etc. And then you see all of the random people who seem to be doing better than you who are being treated with the meds you know have helped you and they just sell them etc. Then you're forced to try to find alternatives and they throw ssris snris and gabapentin etc. Making you gain more weight than you've ever carried in your life. It's made me attempt suicide 3 times. The system is broken and they're painting everyone into a corner of having to get things illicitly or nip it all in the bud and end it all because you can't take it.
I have been on pain medications for 25 years now. Thank God i have a doctor who understands my pain.
What will happen if he goes away though?
@@dalemuzingo799 I can tell you. You start all over with these arrogant brainwashed know it all doctors. I waited 3 months to get in to see a new doctor and the asshole told me he doesn't prescribe tramadol. Tramadol, can you believe it. They treat it like it was herion.
You are EXTREMELY fortunate. I was cut off after over 30 years of opioid prescribing in 2016 when the CDC went overboard in the other direction. Studies have now shown that the Opioid crisis wan’t coming from patients prescribed these meds but from street drugs and imported synthetic opioids. A lot of good that does the rest of us at this point.
@@dalemuzingo799 ,
Yes, anyone suffering a Life destroying Severe Chronic Pain Illness (even if illegally caused by strangers/company, they count, not us citizens), this Ruling System of hell/united-states-country will stop, prevent in someway, or even destroy whatever was working to ease our Severe Chronic Pain Illness (whatever it is helping to finally be at least somewhat of a Life, as Opiate Plant Medicine was for so many of us people with a Severe Chronic Pain Illness, but the demons- this System/u.s.-government/hell/united states country/earth, being all the demonic same, will surely destroy/end-it in one way or another- what helps us people with Severe Chronic Pain illnesses, and to keep us suffering daily, constantly, suffering Life ruining Pain for decades until death- to be NO Life, and once we die this hell/united-states-country, where demons Rule us, just plays over again, and again, and again, and...
(this comment here above is NOT at all a joke, just the opposite, this is a True level of hell, as this inhumane wicked e^il has been done for so long by these demons here. all of it so negative wrong, plus all the time with Pain we are made to suffer for nothing [ also believe now the Opiate Medicine which works, was done to taunt us more- the demons allowed Opiate Medicine for a bit, but it was only done to show us there is Plant Medicine which DOES WORK, also anyone knowing the Truth about Opiate Medicine, can see the negatively lie about Opiate Medicine to do the inhumane wicked e^il they do to we people with Severe Chronic Pain illnesses for nothing. showed us Opiate Medicine works, we could at least have somewhat of a Life, but nope this is hell, demons took it from us- calling even we Severe Chronic Pain Illness people drug addicts who did nothing wrong, and punished us for the drug addicts. being all part of this inhumane wicked e^il united-states-country/hell though take it from us of course to suffer on- also now knowing that Opiate Medicine does work for a lot of types of Severe Chronic Pain Illnesses, but we are NOT going to get what works- to just suffer on here in hell/united-states-country/earth/North America, whatever name used this is all the same hell, also proof of the demons with all the huge lies they use- being a tribute to their boss/king/god- Lucifer/Satan/Beelzebub, etc. yes this entire place must be a hell, possibly is hell its self, and maybe when we die the hell is different- but the hell is always a hell with these demons- who torture-torment us in one way or another, as this is actually hell. the burning is at the top of my spine all the time since I was first here [ even what I remember prior to being 18 years old where it was nice, is just a dream- another part of the torture-tormenting done in this hell/united-states-country, a faint memory of a nice place like a tease [ also my severe head injury being all part of this evil tease, tricks, lies, Pain, done on & by this hell/united-states-country- all of this here, with the demons who do this to us, and will increase what they do- by calling me a- "drug addict who just wants more of that awful, monstrous, e^il killing Opiate Medicine [ all of it complete lying tricks of inhumane wicked e^il, and how the demons in power do all of this inhumane wicked e^il to people with Severe Chronic Pain Illnesses in this hell/united-states-country/earth/North-America, etc. ], exactly how this True- inhumane wicked e^il of demons hell/united-states-country does this inhumane wicked e^il to we people- being Severe Chronic Pain Illness must be a part of this True North-America/united-states-country/hell/earth, etc.- i.e. being this is Truly a earth/united-states-country/North-America/hell, etc. ], and each time we die, the burning will be done in some other way, but this True place of a hell/earth/united-states-country, with demons Ruling over us- who torture-torment us- will all just happen again in some other way, or maybe the same hell again, but all of this Truly being this- UNITED-STATES-Country/hell/earth, etc., either way- same hell/united-states-country/earth, etc., or a different united-states-country/earth/hell, etc. ])
I’ve been on my opioids for 20 years; thank God I have an understanding doctor
Problem is, the rest of us in pain 24/7/365 for years has to pay for that choice the One person chose.
This! I don't go to the ER for extreme pain because it is useless, even when I was standing in my bedroom screeching from the pain I did not go. When I spent a day and a half feeling like an ice pick was being constantly thrust through my leg time after time after time I did not go. I knew I wouldn't get treated because of that one person.
💯. I’ve been a pain patient since 2009. It sucks & id have to he literally dying to go in the ER & say I’m in pain. I can’t take my current pain & fell yesterday…thinking my finger is broken & had to go to urgent care. It’s nuts drs thinks cuz we take pain meds every day…we have NO pain in an acute situation. Thank goodness it’s not broken, but my leg is black & blue & I can’t move my thumb/hand. It’s swollen twice the size today. Ya can’t keep Ice on it 24/7-cuz of tissue injury
@Melissa McCutcheon I hope you feel better soon.
@@auntymarushkafah that is criminal.
@@auntymarushkafah Why do you refuse meds from urgent care?
My sister was on the ER floor blacking out from pain in between what was described as primal screams. Because the nurses and doctors thought she was drug seeking, they mocked her and left her there. She doesn’t drink, do drugs, nothing, she’s a principal of a school. She had severe ovarian torsion. There has to be a better way. Even if she was drug seeking, no one deserves to be treated like that. It’s very sad, I really feel for people with chronic pain conditions.
Oh heck! Ovarian torsion is BADDDDD! BAD painful too. Never had it happen, but as a nurse I'd be loading her up (safely) on pain meds if I could prescribe. Poor thing!
My god. Women can get that too? I read up on testicular torsion a while back - for reasons I will choose to omit. I had no idea. I'm terribly sorry she had to go through that.
Terrible, I do hope she is alright now. Pain is what the sufferer says it is. Your sister was in agony.
I am sorry to say this...I woukd have recorded her. Also written down the staff or doctor comments
or described the eye rolling or unsympathetic looks. Then I would have found a journalist, newscaster, or attorney.
Women's health issues are mostly ignored or dismissed if you go in. Ovarian torsion=immediate surgery. It's very painful and if they knew where the pain was they could have gad tge gyno on-call ti see her vs the poor treatment she got
I was on Norco for three years for chronic pain. I NEVER took more than prescribed, (never even took the total daily dose, I broke them in half). I never needed a script early, and never asked for anything stronger. I ALWAYS had medication left over at the end of the month. I only took them when I really needed it.
Then my doctor told me, after almost 3 years, that some study showed that narcotics do not work for my kind of pain (fibro), so she wasn't giving me any more. I told her, "But it's worked for 3 years." She said, "Well, the study shows different so no more."
How ignorant can you get?
Now, it's like pulling teeth to even get my doctor to acknowledge my pain exists, much less get it treated.
How they treat chronic pain patients is nothing short of state-sponsored long-term torture, and it's pure evil.
Find a different Dr! That is terrible.
Yes, this is a common line that Doctors or GPs come out with when explaining that they are going to withdraw your controlled or restricted medicines. My doc did this for the 15 x half strength diazepam tablets I would ask for once every two or three months if I couldn't move from lower back muscle spasms.
If your doctor says something about a new study, ASK THEM FOR A COPY OR A LINK TO THE STUDY THEY ARE REFERRING TO. If they start stammering, you can also say, 'I'm actually a reasonably intelligent person, and could most likely read and understand said study or citation.
You'll probably begin to realise that it's a load of bollocks. My doc said, 'there's new studies that say not to prescribe diazepam for back pain as it doesn't work' - to which I replied, 'diazepam doesn't work for treating muscle spasms?' then I had the stammering. Still didn't get them though. It's ridiculous sometimes... I'm not going to inject them into my eyeballs, or swap them for some crack 😔
I feel you, they say it doesn't help for fibromyalgia, but yes it does. How the F@ck would they know. Do they suffer with it everyday? No! We do. Screw those studies. My mom opened the first GCRC @ John's Hopkins Hospital from Aids to everything you can imagine as far as research, my Dr said taking Tylenol and ibuprofen isn't good for fibro, and since I have to cyst on my kidney and I have 2 other autoimmune diseases these Dr's don't car anymore. I'm sick of it. They think they will get sued if they give us the amount we need, but when we die, they will get sued for that too. My bp is between 185-200 systolic and 110-135 diastolic daily, yes I have hypertension, but the pain makes it worse. I've given up. I just lay in bed all day, I can't eat, I have no life. 😔 😔 😢 😢
How ignorant?
There isn't a level of ignorance. You either have the knowledge or you don't.
"a study" I was the same and got cut off too. It does help.
No excuse for failing to provide appropriate pain relief ever!
Especially when there's literal tons of opiates in the street of every state of the union, it's the easiest thing in the world to get, just not the safe and legal way.
@hastyhillfarmand4x480 in states where cannabis is still illegal, it is literally easier to get fentanyl than weed. The CDC opioid guidelines (which aren't even technically mandatory, BTW) created this new market. Leave it to government to "fix" a problem by making it substantially worse.
Don’t try the veterans hospitals
Having oxycodone for my back has literally saved my life. I had back surgery exactly one year ago and this really helped, but being on oxycodone allows me to have a semi-regular life. Instead of being in bed all day with pain, I can go to the gym and do some weight training, do some activities with my family etc. It is wrong to make wide across-the-board decisions on narcotics and each person must be evaluated individually. Legislators negating narcotics accros-the-board are causing IMMENSE SUFFERING
Let the Dr's figure out what pain drug is appropriate in a clinical situation Not Legislators. Legislators need to write laws that address people who abuse prescription and non prescription drugs. Already enough laws on the books that do Nothing to access the drug problem in the US.
@@dand3975 Agreed 100%. Those legislators that vote to ban opioids and who restrict prescription by doctors better pray to God that their health will remain good for the rest of their lives. Because they will learn very quickly how important to their well-being they can become. Life can sometimes play you very ironic tricks Mr Congressman and Mrs Congresswoman. Don’t be so arrogant.
@@PatrickBateman191 Well I read something somewhere that Congress has a drive up pharmacy. So don't think the "haves" live under the same rules as the "have nots".
Lucky 🍀
Pain is all I know. Help
Surely you didn't say take Tylenol 3 and do yoga and you'll be ok?
If you can't bend and twist your body due to excruciating pain, that's not going to be a solution for them.
The best solution is, give the opoids. Give adults what they need manage their lives. Trust that they have the life experiences and common sense to safely manage their pain. If a Dr sees they don't have sense enough to do it, then wean them off.
One thing I am certain of:
There is no quality of life when you're forced to live in pain 24/7. NONE.
You said it right!
Agreed and it can also change your mental health.
Truth!
Exactly right 👊🏻
That's some CHURCH right there! You are doing nothing but putting straight up facts out there.
Why should I be punished for the misdoings of others when I am a chronic pain patient who requires opiates despite being the “good” chronic pain patient??…I take my medications exactly as prescribed, have 2 spinal cord stimulators, I’ve tried all the alternatives, and am allergic to all nerve medications. If you have a heart condition, diabetes, etc. you aren’t judged for needing certain meds to survive. I have CRPS…nicknamed the Suicide Disease for the pain it causes…it causes your nerves to burn you alive. It turned me into a below knee amputee last year by burning off my foot/lower leg and has taken over most of my body. Opiates are the medication I need to survive each day, and I hate feeling judged because the only medication that keeps me alive is being demonized because of those who have misused it. You can’t judge the person using this pain management tool unless you are in their shoes…or shoe in my case. I believe that anyone judging a chronic pain patient for using opiates should be forced to live in their body for a week with nothing but over the counter meds and the “warm and fuzzy” alternatives like deep breathing and meditation. People do not “get it” until you live it #chronicpainkills
I am 57 and was diagnosed with the same RSD when I was 30. The pain has been immense. The judgement I received and to this day still receive are from family and a close friend. Guess who aren't apart of my life anymore??!!!. The incredible stress that I was under magnified my pain even further still they were gone. My daughter and two young granddaughters,7 and 2 were major in my life. But my life is, through Christ, 💯 now that the pressure is off. My daughter acting like I just wasn't that bad. No, not as severe to lose a limb, but in the constant badgering, cursing, and continued hatred wore me down. If you suffer from that high degree of stress, my prayer for you is that it will be removed from your life completely, in Jesus name 🙏 Peace and Blessings!!!
@@annanderson1470 thank you so much for sharing your experiences. I have so much respect for those like yourself who have battled for decades. Im 33 years old and struggle to imagine living like this forever. And I’m glad to say that, while it hurt at first, making my circle of family and friends small has been the best thing for me mentally/emotionally. I am so blessed to have an amazing mom who is my full-time caregiver as well as friends who validate my pain/feelings and do not judge me for the medications I take. I hate that society has pushed us all under the umbrella of “addicts” when there are so many chronic pain patients who are responsible with their meds but are being stripped of them and ending their lives as a result. God Bless! 🙏🏻❤️🙏🏻
@@thewilltowalk6651 Thank you so very much for your kind words. It has indeed been a struggle but there are also blessing to be found within our struggles if we will only let God take the helms. Your struggle through the lose of a limb must be an unimaginable one. If truly one Could walk a mile, no a week in our shoes perhaps they could come to some measure of understanding. They would surely see that health, mental state, family situations or lack of, financial stability, and much more are affected by living in constant pain. Only God is constant and always forgiving and non judgemental. He is Bigger than all we suffer in this life. I am beyond happy to know that you have your mother and a small group of people around you that genuinely care and have your best interest at heart. You will one day run in the open fields of Heaven!! And it's closer than you know. Peace and Blessings to you and your family 🙏🙏🙏💖💖💖
@@BlueBirdsSong It breaks my heart that so many of us are living this nightmare and, even worse, having no choice but to end their battle “fall on their sword” because they lose their meds. We are neither being allowed to live nor die with dignity because society and the medical system has backed us into this corner. I have never felt so horrible as I did during the week after losing my med and being either un-medicated or heavily under-medicated during that time. But in response to my screams was a slammed door rather than pain relief. I pray that things change for the better in the future, but it seems they are only getting worse. God Bless You ❤️🫂🙏🏻
@@annanderson1470 the lack of dignity and pain management I have experienced since losing my leg last March has been mind-blowing…the worst being my week-long stay in the hospital after my amputation where I was heavily under-medicated, and the sound of my screaming and vomiting from the pain was met with a slammed door from nurses. I cannot wait til the day where I can run through Heaven’s gates whole again and no longer have to suffer from this terrible disease. I’m sure you cannot wait either ❤️🙏🏻🫂
As a former RN may I just say that while acetaminophen is great for reducing fevers and for mild pain, it is a not a substitute for stronger pain medication. Not even close. Also, because its effects are mild people often tend to take more than they really should, which can lead to liver damage over time. Of course opioids can be addictive, but they are highly effective. Since pain slows down the body's healing, eliminating pain actually allows the body to heal faster. Because patients depend on a physician to prescribe effective pain relief, it puts them in a vulnerable position, So, it's incredibly insulting to then be treated as a drug seeker/addict when they make a request for something stronger to relieve their pain. Dr. K makes some great points in this video but I have personally had enough post-op experiences to know that being stingy with opioids makes a patient suffer needlessly, extending both the pain and the healing.
Retired Registered nurse agrees with you
After my last major surgery on a badly broken arm I was already on a high dose of pain relief which thankfully my gp manages and on day 2 after surgery some of the doctor's wanted to take down a pain med infusion which was running all the time plus take down the pain medication drip I could push when needed to deliver a small dose of pain relief. Thankfully one of my surgeon's and nurse that have taken care of me through over 10 operations knew me well enough to know when I said how much pain I was in that I wasn't just looking for a buzz which so many chronic pain disorder patients get accused of. Thankfully I am extremely lucky to have the medical team I have. And so many more people deserve the same. To anyone suffering from a pain condition, I send you loads of healing energy and strength, and I hope you are able to get the kindness and support that is needed ✨️
Thank you so so much for articulate comment. As a pharmacist I know you are 100 % correct but it's like we are yelling in the middle of a forest where noone hears and refuse to listen and the judgmental attitudes are sickening.
I am seeing more and more tylenol after surgery!!! Really ?!? What happened to untreated severe acute pain can and will lead to chronic pain. These robotic providers need to wake up.
THANK YOU for your comment
@@Brex806 and thank you for yours!
So much for " every patient has a right to be pain-free".
Amen to that 🙏 😢
Where is that phrase at? I need to look that up.
That’s impossible. I have chronic pain and was on narcotics. When I was on high doses I just slept all the time and I still was in pain. I talked to my doctor about it and together we decided to reduce my dose while still being able to sleep through the night. Now that I am on a lower dose my life is way better. I can sleep and the pain is low enough that I can function. That is what you should target, to get you pain levels low enough that you can sleep and be functional during the day.
that is not the medical reality for most pain patients. Pain management is not "get me pain free"-- that may not be medically possible or advisable. Opiate escalation and tolerance management is a vital thing, for instance, you cannot give someone enough medication to make them pain-free if it means in a few short years they will be unable to obtain relief from any painkiller on the market in legal dosages. These drugs also affect the body, putting a patient into kidney failure or liver failure on pain medication is not responsible of a doctor even if their pain is only controlled with amounts of drugs that would do so.
There are limits beyond which if a patient is not on hospice care, a doctor could well see themselves charged with murder if a patient has a bad outcome and they are on inappropriate dosages of painkillers.
Pain management is one part of a complex question that has many factors: tolerance management, side effect management, avoiding negative lifestyle effects (someone sleeping in bed all day is going to lose muscle and mobility, and if someone cannot be up and active their standard of living and life expectancy go way down), meeting patient goals (I don't want to be so medicated I can't drive, I don't want to be so medicated I can't work, I don't want to be so medicated it scares the grandkids, etc) and a ton of other valid medical factors.
@@dangerszewski9816I lay in bed all day *because* of the pain. My quality of life has greatly reduced because of the pain. When im medicated, I am functional & healthy. They don't care. They're leaving me in this hell.
I can *guarantee* the *same* doctors that refuse to properly prescribe pain medication for serious injuries would not refuse themselves or their family members that *very same* pain medication for the *very same* injuries. Sickening.
Agreed
Oh of course!
I do not know this to be true. Doctors, with a full appreciation of the risks, tend to be extremely conservative taking drugs, of any kind. I know people in medicine who wouldn't even take a tylonal when most people would.
AGREED!!! So true
Brian, my only disagreement is that the govt agencies have made it SO difficult to prescribe opioid pain meds it's simply not worth the doctor's time and effort to bother with it. Yes, there are bad doctors, just as there are bad cops and house painters. But those occupations usually don't affect life and death on a daily basis. Our government is more concerned with protecting criminals from the results of their illegal activities than they are serving those of us who desperately need need pain relief.
Please understand most doctors are willing to use the proper medication for the proper application, but these idiots in WashDC have handcuffed them with ridiculous and unreasonable rules and regulations - with spectacular failures. Many doctors have run afoul of the bureaucratic BS thru minor paperwork errors that result in out-of-proportional punishments that cause even the most dedicated medical professionals to be super cautious. Most of the blame belongs squarely on the heads of the unelected, spineless and faceless pencil-pushing weasels that need to grow a brain (I know, good luck on that, right?!)
I pray your family has not been touched by these misguided medical morons. Mine has, and has paid the price.
I'm a former addiction counselor and I can assure you, those that need and would NOT abuse these medications suffer greatly because of the actions of those prone to addiction. They are NOT the same and should not be made to suffer. Untreated pain leads to extreme, desperate measures. Would having the death of a suicidal patient on your conscience be any different than the one addiction caused? Denying those who are desperately in need of relief is not the answer.
why are we baker acted when we are suffering so bad and have no meds and threaten suicide? How does a "rehab" help us with our pain.. I never got this rationally? Im completely mentaly stable but when im in a pain of 11 (out of 10) I want to die, and WILL eventually kill myself... So they just commit me.... I dont get it... Just makes me want to do it even more now...
Doctors feel no responsibility for patients in chronic pain. If a chronic pain patient commits suicide they just say they were mentally ill, not legitimately wishing for an end to their pain. Most docs have never experienced a 9-10 on the pain scale and absolutely cannot fathom what years of daily pain does to a person. In my experience they don't want to hear it. Telling them only gets you labeled "non-compliant and drug seeking." I wouldn't wish this kind of pain on my worst enemy but I have a list of gaslighting doctors that I'd happily saddle with it if I had the ability. I will likely die of a stroke or aneurysm in my bed because I would rather die than go to an ER and be dehumanized and humiliated again. Doctors have made living with daily pain much much worse. God forbid you go to a "Pain Clinic." They are all set up for addicts and the assumption if you become a patient at one is that you're an addict already. No thanks.
@@bethb861 I think things may have eased a bit in Australia recently. I ended up in pain from doing a physio exercise the day before. Woke up and could barely walk. Xray at ER showed severe OA plus believed me when I said I had HEDS. I couldn't believe it! Physio bent my toe back, explained xray and gave me a cane. Given short course of opiod meds. Not doing that exercise again, can't sleep on my side. Private Physio made it worse! YT videos on strengthening glutes etc helped.
Bless you
Thanks for your comment I wish your voice could be heard. I don't know how the patient this doctor describes could have OD'd if he was taking meds as prescribed.
Come on doctors, listen to all of these real people who are in real pain and please help us and please do something good and advocate for us!!!! We are in severe chronic pain and we can’t stand much more of it!!!! Please help us!!!!!!
typical junkie
In 2005, I had thoracic surgery. I was sent home where I was in agony. I was also on chemo. I could not move, eat, drink. The hospital said I had to go back to the hospital or not be given anything. My oncologist finally ordered morphine for a month. I did not become addicted. I am now 73, with osteoporosis, arthritis of the spine and neck, spred SI joint, broken pelvis in 2 places. My insurance Co sent me a letter saying I have been taking Tramadol over 80 days. I have been taking that for Bone Pain for 20 years. They cut me down last year and I use alcohol every day now because I do not have enough pain control. I have not taken street drugs yet, but I am thinking I may, just for a few good days. Why do the make Seniors suffer? The war on drugs is a war on people with severe pain.
I am so very sorry. That's absolutely awful that you're being treated the way that you're being treated, you don't deserve that at all!! You're right, their war is only affecting those with chronic pain. And it isn't right :(
I"m so sorry. The government's war on people in valid, visible and justifiable pain is inhumane.
I had thoracic surgery last month. They gave me Norco first. Then oxy-- but no Tylenol. (together it's only percocet.)That's what they used to give for a root canal! Was having arrhythmias like crazy. Nothing for spasms. Absolutely unreal. It took a lot of arguing to get anything stronger-- yet they already had my history. No one would treat a dog this way.
@@tangogrrl They treat us all as drug addicts. Yes, the political war on people has caused so much suffering and if our doctors address our pain, they are threatened.
😥💔I am so very sad for you. Don't give up🌹
Get a new doctor
I laugh at my nurses every time they tell me I just need to be more active, I don't need pain meds, because pain won't be lethal. I laugh at them because how do they expect me to be as active as they want me to be if it hurts too much to walk?
That's sadistic
@@sl4983 at my last visit, I told them my lack of treatment was inhumane. So, they prescribed me something, told me it was for pain, but I found out 3 weeks later that it wasn't. It was actually an anti depressant. The issue that causes my condition has nothing to do with any of that. It's actually a destructive form of arthritis. You would think they would prescribe something to treat that instead, even if they don't want to give traditional pain meds. It's sickening. 14 years of this fight to be treated like a human being. If either of my cats would feel what I do for as long as a day, the humane society would be called, the cats would be taken away, I'd be charged and jailed for animal abuse and neglect, and banned for life from being able to even have a goldfish, but they can do this to us with no repercussions whatsoever
When u get friends and family encouraging anti depressants as if that is the problem. I'm tired of saying its the pain and misery that makes me depressed! 😢
@@patjonker6576 No kidding. Between that and nobody really listening to what you say you really need help with ... I keep saying to them it's the deterioration of my spine that's making it so I can't walk without screaming, not depression, and any depression I may be feeling is certainly not clinical depression, as ANYONE would feel anxious, on edge, and like going postal after years of being in mind numbing pain, begging doctors for help managing it, and being told AND treated like we are imagining it. I'm getting to the point where I'm almost ready to sign up for our lethal kool-aid program, since no matter how many years I say, "please stop giving me anti depressants for my arthritis damage", they just switch me to another anti depressant with a different name and tell me it's for pain
I've had a male nurse tell me that pain is just a signal letting you know you're alive...what a joke! Some people have never experienced *real* pain therefore have absolutely *no* idea what it's like. Tylenol and Ibuprofen are for mild pain like a headaches or toothaches, anything else from moderate to severe they don't even come close to being effective.
Just because some people are susceptible to addiction, doesn't mean we all are. I guarantee, if the pain was occurring in the doctor, they'd be writing themselves a script for pain meds. Most Dr's don't care. It's not affecting them. Bottom line. Also, if opioids were really the worst culprit and addiction, then why are the U.S. borders wide open for the drug cartels to bring in the very drug that were supposed to be afraid of.
A lot of doctors abuse their ability to write a prescription for personal needs, and are addicts themselves.
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ITA
Yes they would, iam chronic pain patient and have fibromyalgia, arthritis, degenerative disk disease, chronic migraines, spinal headaches, ect so yeah if they were in that type of pain and had trouble functioning they likely would take pain mds
That's absolutely false. We're all susceptible to addiction because addiction is the physiological response to repeated exposure to a substance. Stop demonizing those with substance abuse disorders!
Any time I hear a doctor tell someone in pain to “mediate, yoga, chi, etc” BS,
I literally want to see them lose their license.
And I’m not a pain patient
These doctors are clowns. This guy saying advil is a powerful pain reliever. I went to a pain management "doctor" that told me to take tumeric for serious back pain. By serious, I'm talking I just has spine surgery and got fused from L4-S1 with both discs removed and replaced with spacers, part of the vertebrae removed to make room for the nerve. Yeah, a pain specialist suggesting herbal remedies should have his license taken. They can go run a cash register somewhere.
I went 7 months In severe pain from avascular necrosis of the hip till my surgery because Noone would prescribed me anything despite no history of drug abuse or no desire to abuse meds. I just wanted to relieve my pain. Tylenol does nothing for 10 pain...I felt judged, abandoned and neglected by the medical community...Innocent patients shouldn't have to pay the price of the few bad apples who abuse meds
Yet here we are aren't we. No protection for those of us who did not choose their pain
Ibuprofen messed up my stomach
My sister suffered the same. She was told it was arthritis and had to wait a year for a hip replacement. Nothing but T3s which made her sick. So she wouldn't take them .Wouldn't give her an MRI either. The doc finally saw it in the preoperative x-ray which of course he didn't look at till day of. You could see her pain from head to toe and it was dismissed. 😢
@shlalouie am so sorry about that. To suffer in pain is cruel on the doctors part. They did take a oath to relieve suffering and to leave someone in pain when it can be relieved is insane. Surgery shouldn't wait a year and people shouldn't be treated like drug seekers when there is clearly a diagnosis that the pains real because of a few bad apples who abuse meds . It's just sad the world we live in today
I've asked my doctors a couple times for pain meds .... they made me feel like a junkie . Now I'm embarrassed to ask.
All they care about is covering their own ass
I’m sorry. I have had other patients have similar stories. I hope your doc was able to recommend other modalities for you.
Tell me about it, I tried to get just a few hydrocodone pills a month for migraines, its impossible.
That's sad.
They made my 80 year old mother feel the same way as well as myself it’s really sad
If doctors feel responsible for the addicts created from their prescriptions, then they also need to feel responsible for the suicides from failure to provide these prescriptions.
I’m also amazed at all the other highly addictive meds docs are happy to prescribe in order to avoid prescribing opiates.
This⬆️ wow man your so spot on.
SSRI's are way more dangerous in my opinion. Yet, every visit they offer them up like their giving away tic tacs.. Sure they don't have immediate effects but if you take them for a few months then come off them.. Wow.. Worse withdraws ever.. Especially if they are the serotonin and endorphin combo's.. Something like Tramadol is a dog shit pain med but one hellish nightmare to come off of.. Way worse than percs or oxy.. That drug should be banned in my opinion.
Ya. Like duloxetine, a terrible , impossible to get off of , dual. SSRIs Snri nightmare of a supposed nerve pain drug; that’s gnarly and actually DANGEROUS DRUG…..until my wife counted the little pellets to wean me off this sh.. uh med.
It was proven a long time ago that Doctors in the US are guilty of under treatment of pain.
I think it's partly so people will turn to street substances and become a cash cow for the judicial system. The "war on drugs" has hurt everyone in America.
I wish doctors knew what it felt like to live with intractable pain due to permanent health conditions, and experience the psychological problems that accompany it.
My pain is so severe sometimes that I sleep all day and sit on my back patio wailing in the dark, asking the universe to help me. I'm told I'm mean and not trying. I havnt left my house since Jan. Before that it was Thanksgiving. I know this sounds crazy, but my cats like to sleep on my hips and legs, my most painful spots. I've tried grounding.
@@Mike-ke4yp Probably why you can't get them. He wants them all for himself.
me and my friend always joke about how nice it would be if abusive doctors regarding the sort of doctor to abuse pain patients on opiods....well how those kind of doctors would feel if they were tortured and then mocked and told: "you want an fing tylenol? hahaha".
it's no different from most modern doctors. the pain is there to the patients. but they're all treated like addicts anyways. doctors care more about sadistically catching and stopping addicts than treating pain. no one will advocate for pain patients and the medical system and government considers it "eugenic" that these pain patients just kill themselves. "less strain on the system. less money and effort. good".
it's actually dysgenic but the modern western elites are psychotic so.
Very few people in any vocation have actual empathy. This system is broken. As this physician suggested in another video we must be as proactive of our own health. as possible. I think it’s a good idea, for myself, to always have something ‘on the ready’ in case someone I care about, including myself and even including my DOG, find ourselves dealing with a physician without compassion in an emergency pain situation. Again, I’m speaking only for myself.
Of course he does. No doubt about it. Or for sleep or anxiety or anything else that could come up in his life.
I think you're wonderful, but non opioid pain relievers just are not enough for all pain.
I sure don’t think he’s wonderful. He’s not even treating us being patients for their pain.
Yes. You have to find the root cause of the pain. While you are getting to the root cause, it is nice to be able to have an opioid (it can save your life-and your mind!) to help while you are trying to solve the problem and figure out what to do about it. The days of going to a doctor to have your problem solved are over. We have to take this into our own hands. It’s scary, but so true!!
@@Nan-59 telling it like it is isn’t his fault. He doesn’t even get to decide this shit
@Lowe Spring Acres I agree with you 110%. Those of us in chronic pain, and the Dr knowing exactly why, should NOT be denied opioids because of how someone else used them. C'mon!!
@@tinavasquez7206 Amen, Sister!
It is so wrong what they’re doing to us in chronic, for many of us multi year, multi DECADE pain! It’s CRIMINAL really.
And we have the pleasure of dealing with doctors looking at us and even ASKING US if we are drug seekers/addicts. Ugh 😩 Sometimes, it just seems like too much. Well actually, most of the time it IS too much. WAY TOO MUCH. 😰🥺
Take care of yourself ❤️❤️❤️✌🏻
I'm one of those people. Broke my back and my neck when I was younger... Currently in late stage 3 cancer for the second time. I have spent months basically incapacitated from chemo and radiation. Finally got the most minimal of pain meds two weeks ago after six months. I will tell you firsthand that this whole opiate crisis is b******* when it comes to people that are over 60 and in chronic pain.
My cats and dogs get better
care than from many a human doctor. Am so sorry for all of the untreated pain here on these posts.
Drug addicts have caused all of the unrelieved pain reported on this site.
Thank you for your comment I have chronic pain I'm 60 years old and I have severe sciatica head injuries broken orbital bone broken jaw broken nose I suffer from migraines and they want to prescribe me ibuprofen it does work but the degree of pain I suffer from I have never taken opiates and they do make me nauseous but I will do anything to get out of this pain I know it's not right but some people resort to illicit drugs but I know people who have died from them and I just will live with the pain
Agree with you 100 %.. The actions of addicts have hurt so many people . I have had terrible misfortune since I was 25, and even had to give up my beloved
work as a HS teacher, because of the vomiting . Why didn’t some dr give me an nausea medicine?
I suffered until I was 63! Finally I was referred to an Angel of a female neuro in NYC. I had a normal life ! However, she retired after 5 years because her husband became very ill.
I am back to my old life. I have two fractures in my back and a neuromuscular disease, and are in pain daily.
Now I can’t ever take any pain meds or even
Tylenol. My stomach is bad and I had a massive gastric hemorrhage last year.
Many fractures of not a few bones.
Life is very difficult.
I'm 71 and ready to stop living in pain.
God bless you and I hope your pain subsides you deserve to live well I wish you nothing but good fortune and love
Only 1 to 1.5% of all those who are prescribed opioids become addicted. So treating all people in pain like that 1 to 1.5% is fucked up.
yes, yes it is!
Denying pain meds to those who truly need them is life-threatening. I wish this doctor could feel 10% of my pain even on opiates for one hour.
Opiates ain't working obviously then time to taper
Agree 💯
Yep, they just have NO CLUE. NONE.
I completely agree. Just a day one it would change there ENTIRE PERCEPTION!
They want people on pain to die. It’s a democide.
Doctors went from over prescribing to not prescribing and the boomerang effect has been devastating. We know the reason. We suffer because of *politics.* I was on pain management for almost three decades. I went from daily morphine to *nothing.* The result? At 63 I'm addicted to fentanyl. When you're in pain you don't fear dying...you fear untreated pain. It's torture. We've been used and abused by the medical community, the politicians, and the pharmaceutical industry. At this point I prefer to die at home, in control of my pain.
Yes and the chart (what has been recorded) is more important that treating the patient
So, because one person overdose you let all your other patients just be in pain. Boy, that makes a lot of sense to me…..🤬😡🥵🥵🥵🥵🥵
Agree......one person overdosed and we responsible people suffer.
Yes,because surviving Family members have sued Doctors for "malpractice" and have had extreme laws passed in the latter years to where you can lose your medical license plus go to Prison!!!
It Isn't Fair to you ,me and others,but that is the unfortunate way it is. My Friend died w/ painkillers and alcohol. I know it was accidental ,but when you are in pain and stressed out it is easy to make a fatal mistake!☹️😭
Right. It's so ridiculous. May as well start up prohibition again.
@Loren Heard OK let's ban alcohol too then.
Doc: I hope you are never in pain that grinds your life down to a small, isolate space only to have a doctor recommend Tai Chi.
The consequence of death due to untreated/under-treated pain was not mentioned. When I was a hospital nurse in the early 1980’s, there was no excuse for allowing any patient to be in unbearable pain. Sometimes I would work for hours trying to get a patient’s pain under control. When I suddenly developed a injury that developed into an intractable pain condition, I was surprised to find that none of my physicians would prescribe me any effective medication, resulting in years of indescribable suffering, even to the current day. The [manufactured] opioid crisis, which is really an illegal Chinese fentanyl crisis, is used as an excuse to deprive suffering people of reasonable amounts of pain control.
As a Nurse/Nurse Practitioner Of 29 yrs Now Medically Retired ..Currently 7 Diagnosis’ 4 Fatal With Beyond Extreme Pain & Trust Me I Am Totally Aware & It Angers Me To No End..How Could It Not Anger Us Which Eventually turns into some form of depression and then isolation it’s wrong and we’re paying for this daily and it’s got to stop. We’re purposely having medication‘s withheld because of the people out on the street who are doing them and dying and there is more sympathy for them because they have a disease.. hold up. I’ve been diagnosed with 7+ diseases. Excuse me I have the diseases. I have the pain all over my body to the point where I can longer walk, I’m gonna die like this so forgive me if I’m little less tolerant to the people who are out there taking these medication’s we are being denied and they are being told that they need help because they have a disease and it’s not their fault! WHAT In The Medical Nonsensory ! This wrong needs rated immediately because those of us in this much pain and being looked at even when we’re advocating and being a nurse and a nurse practitioner, you know how to advocate for patients I know how to advocate for myself, and it just doesn’t work does not work The more you the more that they see you as a seeker and then your devastated enter the depression again it’s a cycle and it’s gaslighting and it’s best and it’s gotta stop. We should not have to be in this much pain for this long for the rest of our lives.
It is really the government scaring drs and pharmacists. I had a great pain dr. She really wanted to help people. The shut her down but didn't take her license. So she lost her practice and her staff lost their jobs. She went to work in a medical group. What was the point?? Just governmental over reach.
Spot on!
I actually laughed at my doctor last time I was in to see her I got pissed off and said how long do I have to wait before you treat my pain. She could see visible breaks in my lower spine and other various degeneration etc. I said to her the over doses in town are a bit out of control huh? She replies by telling me, yeah and that she works part time as a coroner so she see's the o.d's... I laughed and said, you know you guys pretty much banned opiate prescribing in 2017.. It's 2022.. You know what's killing these people eh? She said opiates!.. I laughed and said no! It's illegal fentanyl coming in from china,mexico and most likely now being made in Canada.. When you guys pulled back on opiate prescribing you created a vacuum that was filled by the most lethal drug to ever hit the streets! And you guys created the problem coming and going..
Most of the doctors in Canada weren't prescribing 70 and 80 mg of oxy either. They were rxing low dose 5 mg oxycodone, or percs.. Very rarely was anyone actually getting a high dose of oxy back in the hay day.. At least not around here. No one needed anymore than 5 or 10 mg anyways.. If they did, it was time for the doctor to cold turkey them off them for a month to reset their bodies. Tolerance is an issue and if people aren't actually withdrawing off it once a month, their tolerance will get out of control real fast.. So couple that with zero education and you got a real big crisis on your hands.
I've been off and on 5 mg oxy for years.. Every month I withdraw from them for 2 weeks before the next batch. So it's 2 weeks of no pain, and 2 weeks of pain.. Doing the withdraw properly in a taper with proper vitamins and it's really only 1 day of downtime.. If people and doctors had the education, none of this would be a problem.. You can't just up their dosage then decide it's getting out of hand and cut them off.. You gotta taper them right off slowly, then keep them off them for a week or 2. That is how you keep the mg low. Otherwise you get junkies over dosing..
@@michellestephenson-webb3175
One of the reasons for leaving those suffering is the control by the government.
Typically, laws are passed and stringent regulations are enacted. They react to the
“opioid “ crisis via these unintended consequences.
Doctors have the feds and states constantly monitoring their prescriptions.
They worry about censure or loss of even their licenses.
Even the pain docs worry.
The government should not be in everyone’s life to the extent it is.
Compassionate clip! Some have chronic, highly debilitating lifelong conditions where lifestyle changes aren't enough and don't want medication but need it for basic functioning. ❤️🙏💞
Thats me, too. Nothing for rheumatoid arthritis but tylenol and asperin. Need sixteen a day , mixed, to function. Guess what? Liver not functioning right!
@@lindakrumenauer1099 Right. Then they tell you take too much Tylenol. They need to make up their minds. Suffering can kill people over time.
After you have bone on bone pain in your hips, so bad you can’t even start to walk right. After you have such severe pain in your back that you take like a 5 second shower bent over hanging on to the bar that is at knee level. After you have had 3 back surgeries- 2 fusions. After you have a punctured colon after a colonoscopy that leaves you with an almost ruptured colon but it leaves you with a pocket of fluid that requires a drain passed through your butt to the abcess( oh yeah and it ran way to close to your sciatic nerve) and hafta leave it in for 2 months before you can have surgery not to mention trying to work as much as you can through all of this. Then you can tell me how well NSAIDS ,Tylenol,Toradol work for you. It is barbaric.
@@cindyjones8284 Agreed. Pain Doctors should be only one's who have experienced it!
@@lindakrumenauer1099 Please try to see a rheumatologist there are other drugs possibly less damaging to gut and liver
I spent 15yrs turning down pain medication. I get diagnosed with psoriatic arthritis and fibromyalgia, diabetes, non alcohol fatty liver, planter facilities,sacroiliitis etc... now I can't get anything but surgeries and steroid injections. But no pain medication now that I really need it and have trouble walking I'm 39. I love getting punished for other people's addictions.
Yes, lumping us all together so we in true pain get the blame
I had all that, and the pain moving was horrible
Turned out my body could not convert B-12 in my stomach/intestines for my body use.
My illness started at 39...
Am 67 now and am totally better...just fixing problems from being bed bound for 10 years in last episode. Started B-12 shots every month for 4 years now, and am amazed after struggling since 1995 in pain ...not to wake up and not be able to move is not a fear anymore
Hematologist is only doc I go to now.
You really need to see a functional medical Dr. You have something going on in your system. Could be cured.
I have fibro and psa I feel your pain -
@trishah2145 Thank you very much. I wish you can find as many good days as possible.
As a former RN & daughter of a stomach cancer patient who was extremely under-medicated it became my philosophy that Id rather "give pain medicine to someone who didnt need it than to not give it to someone who did." Ive been at the nurses station ALOT and hear a patient call for pain medicine and the nurse say "Im not giving it right now. Theyre a drug seeker." Not all nurses but WAY more than I could deal with. I have had patients admitted w pancreatitis or something painful & the dr insists on Tylenol because they believe the patient is drug seeking. Then I check on the patient and they are a literal mess. Sweating, high bp, high pulse... whatever.) I will call that dr repeatedly till midnight or have the house supervisor call the dr to at least get a one time dose of morphine or dilaudid. Haha I was probably a nightmare nurse. No, that's not why Im not a nurse today. A combination of being fed up w hospitals caring more about money and less about patient care, having a very sick & premature baby and an amputation. I miss it though. I had that motherly feeling w my patients. Like when your chid is sick u stay up all night w them ❤
All I can say is you are a special person and whatever God you may believe in knows how you are doing the work of God.
Thank you.
🙏🙏🙏We need more nurses like you
Thank you for being one of the caring ones.
I am a nurse too & feel the same. It’s not my job to keep someone from being an addict. It’s my job to safely control their pain. I’m convinced some healthcare professionals are sadists who get off on hold that power over someone.
You are one of the only empathetic ones left, there just isn’t enough empathetic people. People are cold, unempathetic, unloving. People don’t care for there follow man or woman.
30-year acute care RN here...and on-call.... a lot...so I feel your pain, doc. I wonder if docs feel the patients' pain? About ten years ago I had to travel across the State to receive a somewhat delicate surgery that required a bone graft. They sent me on my way with one pain pill (a Vicodin 5/500). After nearly passing out on the three hour drive home, we called the surgery center and they said, 'too bad, so sad.' I ended up calling my next door neighbor late that night to take me to the ER. She said she had a couple percocets. Infuriating situation. Bone pain is like nothing else.
My boyfriend got a hand surgery that included scraping the bone down. He was told it's out patient and he is going to be able to have a few Percocet. Well it was supposed to get a nerve block for 3 days and he had it fail. He actually got admitted to get the pain relief but he didn't have any idea that he would scream for hours on end and not gotten any more pain relief. They were jerks and eventually got the nerve block from the surgery staff and they were so mean and made fun of him to his face
@@suziecarr1566 OMG THATS AWFUL! I cant even imagine! I slipped on ice down my front steps. I chipped a vertebrae. I sat screaming as waves of muscle contractions took over my entire back and searing pain in my lower back throbbed non stop until they finally took a cat scan 2 hours later which showed i had chipped the vertebrae. THEN and only then, did they give me morphine and lidocaine. Before the cat scan, one nurse ROLLED HER EYES at my screaming as a wave of severe pain from the muscles freezing in unison went through my back. I was left in a dark room to scream in agony. Its SICK what they do to us. The propaganda and constant talk of opioids in relation to addicts ONLY, by politicians and the media, is to blame for this. We deserve relief from pain, not degradation, humiliations and judgements from people who have no idea what chronic pain feels like.
Yep. I had an accident that broke most of my teeth and had to have them all pulled so I could get implants.
They gave me toradol. (And we both know how ineffective toradol is for dental or bone pain.) After digging out 17 broken teeth. Some from deep in my cheek and jaw bones.
Im also an RN. (See pfp 😝)
I also used to be an opioid addict. (😕)
I made the mistake of being honest with the doctor. (Wont do that again.)
But both I and my husband assured the doctor that he would hold my meds for me.
He didnt say anything really.
No warning or clarification....
And sent me home with toradol.
So when I called later (well my husband did because i was rocking back and forth crying) he also said "Too bad, so sad. Its our policy to refuse opioids to addicts."
They dont know anything about my addiction and didnt care that Id been clean for years.
They couldve asked.
I mean, i wouldve been happy with, idk, like 5 percocets! That probably wouldve been enough anyway.
But its wrong to refuse adequate pain relief to ANYONE. Even an addict or an ex addict. Its inhumane.
The "treatment" for addiction is not "pain". In fact, his decision drove me back out on the street to get relief.
I knew it would hurt to have my teeth pulled. Mybfamily asked if I had a plan for if I became physically addicted again.
I told them I did. I was fully willing to go back to rehab.
Well, what I got on the street ended up being Fentanyl. (No, thats not what I thought I bought.) And I still only took a tiny TINY dose.
And I ended up waking up in the back of an ambulance getting Narcanned.
If the stupid doctor had just treated my pain, none of that wouldve happened.
I mean, it really is inhumane.
And counteractive.
And dangerous.
Do you remember when Pain was one of the 5 VS? When the Right to Pain Relief was a thing? And it was actually illegal to refuse pain management to people?
I graduated in 2007 so I was taught that way. Soon after the FDA or whoever it was cracked down and overcorrected so now were seeing pts resorting to buying from their neighbors or ANYONE they can just to get some relief.
Its disgusting.
Yeah I'm recovering from a broken hip and got like 3 5mg hydrocodone a day for 5 or so days and yeah not enough. I found kratom though and use that instead since it's easier than figuring out how to ask a doctor for meds in a way that doesn't get me put on a list. So frustrating, it's like if I wanted to get high I could findd a way to do it that doesn''t involve all these appointments.
I just was kicked out of my pain clinic after being a perfect patient for 10 years. They left me without pain medication for 10 days, and I got three different stories. After I calmed down from yelling, I calmly said to them, you guys have your tails between your legs because you're worried about losing your licenses over something that was a suggestion and never a law to begin with. That's when they said get out or we're calling the cops. So now I'm without a pain clinic, they're all just Mills that don't listen to patients, and I can't afford a private pain clinic. They've lowered me so much, that I might as well just stop taking anything. I have RSD, I have severe phantom pains with spinal cord stimulator that still gets beat with phantom pain sometimes, I have fibromyalgia, I have arthritis, I have a couple broken bones right now, I have temporal lobe seizures, and Parkinson's. And they left me without pain medication. This is gotten to be insane. But unless the CDC talks to each state individually and tells them that it wasn't a law they were just suggestions, then it's never ever going to work. It's ridiculous. Millions of us should not be suffering because a doctor lost a seemingly perfect patient to an overdose. That is the doctor's issues not ours. Don't punish us for what another perfect patient did. That was their choice not ours. Stop punishing us.
The Feds must have been investigating them. Seems like 10 years is a long time particularly if they were prescribing opiods.
I am getting ready to file a complaint against my doctor with the state medical commission for her treatment of me for my chronic pain. She blocked my pharmacy from my getting pain meds for my recent surgery. We have to do something. I am 71 and refuse to get old and decrepit because I can't move anymore.
Honestly it's the person who overdosed issue more than anyone's. Why should the doctor or the rest of us suffer because their dumbass wanted to get high and overdosed? Put the blame where it belongs. On the person who made the decision to ingest more medication than they were supposed to
@@bluewaters3100Yes!!! This nightmare will only end when the financial cost of lawsuits from denied pain patients exceeds the cost of lawsuits of shyster family members of addicts! Everyone has a RESPONSIBILITY to file complaints and sue wherever possible!
We’ll said! I suffer from stage 4 Osteoarthritis! I fell hard twice back in June and I was told it was stage 4 Osteoarthritis! The dr doesn’t give me any pain meds!! I’m bed bound now and can’t walk or stand! On top of that he kicked me out of his office and told me to find someone else! I hate doctors!
I’m in NH and 69 years old. How much abuse to my body with no pain control. Hospital policy! So terrible.
when my father's primary care provider wrote a refill for my dad's Vicodin (incurable degenerative spinal disease) the PHARMACIST REFUSED to fill it. He told my father that he was an addict and he wasn't going to give him any more. It took us YEARS to talk him into taking pain meds because he was in so much pain he barely slept. He didn't want to get addicted. So when he FINALLY got relief, and tried to get his meds refilled, he was denied by someone who was operating outside of his scope of practice. He should have lost his license for that, and if I had known about it at the time, he would have.
Omg!! He had no I'd turn him in for misconduct. I have to get a new script every month for my meds ( oxycodone ) they don't let them put refills on certain class of rx here in NY. I'm not sure about other places.
Agreed. The 'Opioid crisis' had gotten so much hype and over exposure because of stupid teenagers (or very desperate teenagers) got ahold of it and took too much and then EVERYONE has to suffer, forgetting the entire valid reason for the drug in the first place. How can people with chronic pain live without it? They CAN'T!!
I'm sorry your father went thru that. I also have a spinal disease , that has left me dealing with debilitating pain.
I understand your frustration with the pharmacist . However, a pharmacist has every right to refuse filling any prescription, that is 100% in their job description. It is their licence and they have gone to school for 8 yrs to have the right to do so. They are not simply pill counters. Both of my parents were pharmacists. We owned a pharmacy I grew up watching their interactions with patients. If you felt the pharmacy was in the wrong, why didn't your father simply go to another pharmacy? Btw because of the opioid crisis , pharmacies have become a target for fake rxs, patients begging every month to fill prescriptions early and strong armed robbery . They can also be sued just as the prescribing doctors for loosely filling addictive medications. They aren't trying to prevent anyone from getting pain relief , they are trying to do their job professionally and ethically .
@@CTaco65 Understood.
But a PharmD can still be against pain meds, due to being overly cautious. That's why an MD should have the ultimate say, when it comes to having scripts filled.
Agree! The doctor's created the opioid epidemic in the first place by overprescribing and getting all kinds of perks by the pharmacy reps.
Then have the NERVE scapegoating all patients universally as drug'-seekers. Don't punish patients with actual chronic pain for God's sake. People get hopeless ftom the cruel indifference of doctors who basically make their patients live a tortured life trapped in a body with chronic pain. SHAME on you doctors.
Also have pharmacists been granted overloads of prescriptions? They trump doctors? What the heck is going on. I've heard of this happening. Are they trying to practice medicine illegally by going against doctor's orders? Who is the patient's pcp? The patient is under whose care? Are pharmacists now the popo? seriously, what is going on in health care. So many are not getting care anymore. People are suffering. Use some moderation with patients instead of going from one extreme to the other.
I recently had 3 teeth surgically removed & stitched. I got ibuprofen. About 3 hours later, it felt like I got shot in my face. The dentist refused any painkillers. I went to the emergency room after that. I got enough for next 3 days(12 percocet). That's all I needed. It soothed the throbbing pain along with ice and ibuprofen. I'm in my 60's. Ive never abused meds. If anything, I used less than the recommended dose. I told my dentist I couldnt continue with any scaling/crowns and an upcoming root canal without 2-3 days of any additional pain management.
My mouth has always been hyper sensitive to such trauma. He agreed to add this to my next procedure. I shouldn't have to go to an emergency room for 10-12 pills. The scammers ruined this for the legitimate chronic pain sufferers. And I doubt this doctor has experienced chronic/severe pain, because if he did, he'd likely change his biased opinion.
This is me… EXACTLY!! Yup, severe dental abscesses and they called in 1 tramadol! I was told they couldn’t prescribe opiates. Hmmmm.
@conditionallyunconditional5691 I don't think it was scammers (selling their pills?) that ruined things. I think they wanted to do it, and the used the scammers as a convenient scapegoat. It was the CDC that caused the problem. In 2016 their published recommendations that physicians prescribe fewer opioids. Nov 3 2022 they published another set of recommendations that modified this slightly, they said the recommendations were just recommendations; there was no need to follow them exactly. Physicians still follow the recommendations.
I recently had a ruptured abcess on my gumline and, while I have bad teeth and have known for a long time that tooth pain is some of the most severe pain anyone can endure, I realized how absolutely criminal it is for dentists to leave their patients reeling in such torment. At the same time, I just watched something that made me realize how screwed dentists really are when it comes to the grand scale of their profession and insurance dealings. Which is beside the point here... What I was getting at is that it isn't really their fault. It's mostly the government and media interfering with and influencing their decisions. And ability to make their own educated decisions. It really is something...
I had to go to the er, too. ER doctor had to call oral surgery from a different hospital and advocate for me to get it out. She prescribed enough oxycodone until the antibiotic took effect. I used medical cannabis tincture after the extraction (had to compromise and do it awake...) because they gave me a high dose of nsaids which wrecks my stomach. The last thing you want to hear when a student doctor takes out your wisdom tooth is 'what is that?'. Turned out to be a shard of tooth that came out months later lolll
I had something similar and the pain was unbelievable.
So very glad to hear you discussing this topic. I have been living with chronic neck pain since 2004. I've had 3 cervical fusions and the pain hasn't ever stopped. I've tried multiple holistic remedies in an attempt to help myself because I couldn't get help from any doctor. I have basically quit living.
God help you and all who are suffering such pain.
GOD help you. Please there has to be something you can do🙏🙏🙏
I don't know but your life is precious. Don't quit living
Let me know if you need help advocating for yourself. I've been a patient advocate for over 20 yrs.
@@antoniobravo892 World needs more people like you❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️. I wish you health and good life. GOD bless you
@@antoniobravo892when I was in the hospital, Chi Franciscan denied me an advocate or an ombudsmen. They sent me a chaplain instead.
I live with pain everyday and I have my doctor turn me down constantly, the pain pill epidemic in Tennessee caused by the people that abuse prescription medications fixed it for people that actually live with pain and need the pain meds. Its not fair to us.
I live in Tennessee and know what pain is for sure. I broke my neck, back,all my ribs on the left with a collapsed lung. In Vanderbilt ICU I was put on a pain pump with a push button. I had over 40 broken bones and only received meds when my family was there, this went on for 8 days. They are satists 🤬👹👺👿
@@gardenbyrd Omgosh that is awful. I'm sorry you had to go through all that. They should have helped you with all those broken bones. I broke my hand and woke up sick for weeks due to the pain of it mending itself back together I couldn't even imagine the pain you went through
No, it is not fair! How can we change this?
@@kathydilorenzo9744
They are finding other methods that do not work. They just cause more pain. You pretty much have to be older than 50 and or have cancer
They killed my closest relative out there. Evil place. But I guess that’s the state of this country/ world.
As an ICU nurse and a person with chronic pain who has had 8 major abdominal surgeries, I notice that policies and laws today benefit criminals rather than those with acute and sometimes chronic pain. I've seen pain management Docs leave their practices due to their hands being tied to help their clients. Yes, more care is needed in titrating doses down to help people who may have needed longer time-periods on meds. I've seen too many clients undermedicated...a 4 hour post-op lap chole. with Tylenol ordered for pain or a fresh hip replacement (sent home the same day) with only 8 Percocets to be taken q 6 hrs.. Crazy...These are the people who then turn to OTC meds and risk liver and kidney damage because they over-medicate in their attempts to control their pain
Amen sister Patricia! Thank you for your input and reflections from your view. Rich
My dad is given oxy without question for filling cavities or other routine dental work but doctors absolutely refused to give them to my mom who had knee replacement surgery for both knees and for her herniated discs or for me after I had foot surgery on my broken big toe. It never ceases to amaze me how men get better treatment by doctors.
That's a whole different ball of wax, and a very distressing one, at that.
Idk. I'm a man and just had teeth pulled and couldn't even get vicodin. I never can get anything prescribed when I'm injured. Meanwhile my friend seems to get pain meds thrown at them over getting a splinter lol. I think it's more of a doctor thing than a sex thing. The issue is the doctor you're seeing. Even if you grew a penis I doubt that would change that doctors mind on prescribing you pain meds, like it's some requirement lol
Do you live in the Hillbilly Opiate corridor?
I've heard of men getting sedation for testicular ultrasounds, men are treated better in some cases vs how women are. These days women are having csections, mastectomies and hysterectomies with only Tylenol and ibuprofen it is sick!
@@Michelle-db8iz
the testes are very delicate
I have read over 100 comments. Speaking as someone who had 2 lumbar fusions and is in pain DAILY, I hope you are reading these Dr. I talk to ppl all the time about this topic. I believe Dr's are doing more harm than good. Making real pain patients feel like there is NO hope anymore. Going to funerals of ppl who would rather take their lives than suffer or end up taking a street drug laced with Fentanyl. Using THC or drowning in Alcohol to help with pain. Please take all the feedback and do something positive with it. Advocate for your listeners as that is so desperately needed.
Thank you for taking the time to read those comments. The pendulum has swung too far, and that is the belief of many in the medical profession. I am not saying it is appropriate to withhold pain medications that are opioid-based. I am simply explaining this perspective that many doctors are prone to having. I want to advocate for safe and appropriate use of these medications. Do you have a particular recommendation?
I'm discussing this serious comment on an upcoming video shortly
@@MedicalSecrets Did you make that vid? I'm a new subscriber and very interested
@@MedicalSecrets Actually you are by pushing the mindfulness and deep breathing crap . Don't you think that we already tried it? If you and the rest of the medical profession had stood up to the government and the CDC guidelines say a one week total walk out nationwide would have stopped this genocide in one day. But your medical license is worth more than a human life. So many of us were told that by doctors who supposedly took an oath to do no harm. Well ,you're killing people doctor. What about my life? Don't you think I worked hard for my degree and career? Doesn't matter now because I am too sick to work anymore . My dr actually giggled and said that opiods would be banned completely. I hope she is paid back for the suffering she's caused. I take great delight in the widows hump growing nicely between her shoulders. You have much to answer for. Doctor. Using the term loosely as your a poor excuse for a doctor and an even worse human being.
well THC is pretty harmless...but ya yer right...Drs. now are so scared they wont help hardly anyone...its terrible...and it applies to benzos too...they are very unwilling to give a script out for them as well...
I deal with chronic pain and have had 24 surgeries. I've undergone and all the pain management classes and my tool box is full of coping techniques. I was taken off of pain medication when my neurologist retired and my GP refused to write for pain medication because she had a patient overdose and die. I'm sorry for the patient and her loss, however I'm not that patient!!! I'm tired of being told no, being tracked by the DEA and undergoing drug testing like a criminal/drug addict. I understand being an advocate for myself, I could write books about it but it's the anger of being kicked to the curb by the medical community and being left in pain and only have Ibuprofen. I liked the bridge/destination explanation. It's a long, long road driven and will see where it takes me.😊
Similar here. Can't take ibuprofen due to GI damage from it. Can't take SSRI or SNRI as have narrow angle glaucoma. Fortunately have been prescribed cannabis which really helps, but doctor is expensive. The drug itself is cheap as I get it subsidised as on disability.
They put down that I am a previous heroin addict in my medical history and i have never used heroin in my entire life. Im seek legal advice for a medical malpractice lawsuit and filing a complaint against the board
I have had rheumatoid arthritis since I was 16, I am 53 now. When I was diagnosed, my doctor told me that the RA that I have was so aggressive that I would be in a wheelchair by the time I was 35. I’m not in a wheelchair yet and I believe that I owe a big thank you to my doctor back in the early 2000’s because she saw the pain I was in all the time. I am a nurse and she was one of the doctors that I worked with. When I actually became one of her patients, she prescribed me hydrocodone 5mg that I could take 3 times a day if I needed it. My dosage has increased slightly in the last 20 years, 10mg 3 times a day, but it allows me to function normally and with bearable pain. Before getting that original prescription, I would cry putting my hair up in a ponytail because it would hurt my shoulders, neck, and other joints so bad.
I am so happy to hear that you have beat the prognosis! What advice would you give to others trying to heal in that way?
@@MedicalSecretslooks like prescribing medications that actually help allowed her to continue moving and working. Imagine if she was just given Tylenol. 😂
It's good you had such a compassionate doctor. All you needed was something to help you get through your day. People don't realize that even long term opiate therapy does not mean you need more and more. Addiction and tolerance are 2 different things.
There is another phone call that you may get, but you will never make the connection. Your patient committed suicide but no one can make the connection that they were tired of being in pain. There aren't may studies on suicide cause by chronic pain, but it does occur. I'm willing to bet more than we think.
Unless you have dealt with chronic pain you have no idea what it’s like.
That’s a fact
Fact
Exactly 👍
This doctor is really ignorant. Physical pain caused by a nerve being pinched will NOT respond to any of the holistic treatments he stated. They may reduce blood pressure in the short term but they’ll never replace the relief of pain meds or surgery.
That's what I go through every day. Sorry he should have t. The should have taken care of him.
I have had three lumbar spine surgeries. All before the age of 50. I've been dealing with my back, and later polyarthropathy, since my late teens. For decades I avoided opioids because I'm sensitive to medications. I only used them post-operatively or for acute flares. I relied on NSAIDs, heat and muscle relaxers. Eventually, the NSAIDs hurt my stomach and kidneys and I no longer had any other options for pain control besides opioids. I ended up in the hospital about 2 years ago because my back pain and associated radiculopathy had become intolerable. I asked for a small, IM steroid injection to get things to calm down. I never once asked for pain meds other than Tylenol after laying on my back in an MRI machine for almost 90 minutes. I was treated like I was an addict yet I'd been on the same tiny dose of Norco for several years. I ended up leaving the hospital the next morning because I was unable to manage my pain and had spasmed so badly that just holding myself upright in a sitting position caused my muscles to strain and burn like I was doing an insane gym workout. Flash forward a few months of me declining even more and I discovered that I was dealing with high levels of autoimmunity. I have spondyloarthritis and Sjogren's. Immunosuppressive therapy has done wonders but there is so much damage from years of not being treated and doctors assuming I was a drug seeker that I will always need pain medication. So, yeah. Been there, done that. The US healthcare system is a warped joke.
Reading your story makes me even more grateful that when I went to my PCP saying something is wrong and I feel like I've been run over by a truck every day that she ran some inflammatory marker tests, which all came back elevated. Thanks to my rheumatologist I got prednisone treatment and got my life back. My grandma had sjogrens.
@@lynnebucher6537 I'm glad you didn't have to wait long for your doctor to run an ANA titer and all the other sero tests that go with it. I had an ANA titer done about 10 years before the one I had last year that screamed, "AUTOIMMUNE!" It came back positive but barely and because I was seronegative I was told I was fine. The thing is, my Sjogren's is seronegative and psoriatic arthritis, the type of spondyloarthritis I have, doesn't have any definitive tests. If my ANA hadn't been so high I would not have been able to see a rheumatologist who knew the correct questions to ask. How many people, especially women, are being dismissed and called drug seekers when they are truly ill?
I get that there is a problem with people getting addicted to pain meds. But this crack down on opioids hasn't helped. More people are dying from heroin and fentanyl than ever before. And now Xylizine, not an opioid but an animal tranquilizer, is making the death count climb even higher.
Prescription pain meds aren't the problem. Our societal failings are the problem.
May I ask what the immunosuppressive therapy is? Your story rings a bell.
When someone is autoimmune their own immune system thinks that some part of the body is a foreign invader and essentially attacks it.
For example, with Sjogren's, my immune system thinks that the glands that produce moisture in my body are foreign. Because of this I have extremely dry skin, severely dry eyes and my mouth doesn't produce much salivia.
Immunosuppression is done with the help of different drugs. These drugs slows down the persons immune system or a particular part of the immune system.
There are different drugs that are used as immunosuppressants: DMARDs, injectable biologics, biosimilars and infusions.
Because autoimmune patients have a suppressed and not very energetic immune system when receiving treatment, we are more susceptible to infections and viruses. It's a bit of a balancing act.
Not sure if this helps but I hope it does. Talk to your doctor if you think you are autoimmune. Autoimmunity tends to run in families so you might want to find out if anyone in your family has psoriasis, lupus, rheumatoid arthritis, etc.
Best of luck!
Unless you live with chronic pain every single day and night, you cannot understand how frustrating it is when Drs refuse to help you get relief. I got really sick 2 years ago. I was in the hospital for over 2 months. Had colon cancer and multiple complications. I had to go through 4 emergency surgeries. Woke up from the first surgery with a colostomy bag. Had it reversed a year ago, thank the Lord 🙏✝️🙌
I was extremely blessed with a wonderful Dr, and I am so grateful for that. He saved my life.
But during the last 2 years, I have so many problems with my left leg, I had to go on disability. Pain 24/7..People don't realize how discouraged you become, knowing this is now your life. Especially, like me.. I was extremely active. Worked 2 jobs and I loved it. I'm now going to physical therapy. My left leg is so much shorter than the right one due to all the scar tissue from all the surgeries. I have an appointment with the orthopedic Dr. I'm not getting my hopes up that they can help me. I have arthritis in my left hip.. Which I'm honestly GRATEFUL all my problems are on the same side. At least my right leg is good. It would be horrible if both were messed up.. We learned about the Healthcare INDUSTRY during C19 didn't we? 🤔
yep, hes the doctor who has no empathy and doesn't understand there are those in server pain, who NEED opiates.
You got that right. As an RN I was shocked at what was exposed in medicine and pharmaceutical industry during that time. I am also discouraged by the incompetency and the attitudes of the younger Drs and Nurses hitting the floor these days. I won't see a Dr under the age of 40🙂
I remember I was not even given opioids right after surgery. I'm allergic to NSAIDS. My family doctor said to not worry when I voiced my concern. The anesthesiologist was confused what to give me and I woke up after anesthesia crying in pain because he could not give me the usual medication. It was such a betrayal that the doctor said not to worry. I knew that could happen. They left me in pain for hours until at least the night nurse gave me one oxicodon tablet. It was such a relief and on the second day I already did not need any pain medication at all. The pain is literally the worst after the surgery and they leave you in pain. First they push opiods on people who don't need them at all for money, then they deny it to people that need it. It's a crazy world we live in.
My mom was in the hospital twice this winter in horrible pain and they let her lay in the hospital for days without giving her ANYTHING. I was outraged. They literally did NOTHING to help her.
GIVE PEOPLE THEIR MEDICATIONS!! - From a non pain med user. GIVE THEM THEIR MEDS.
I’m very angry over this moronic opiate dilemma which shouldn’t be one at all! First of all, there are many of us out here who truly need pain relief! I recently had a tooth removed,dry socket, then an infection followed…I took OTC ibuprofen & guess what? It tore my gut up for two weeks afterward & did you know Motrin which is just the High RX version eats holes in your stomach needing surgery? Sure does & I suffered even more with the ibuprofen gut & constipation problem along with the infection…how stupid is this? Just give me a strong enough opiate for a week! Seems to me the OTCs are even worse for your liver & kidneys too! They’re nothing but synthetic poisons! There are many of us out here who do not abuse much needed opiate pain meds! Every age needs them,so not just us Seniors, but seniors should be allowed to make our own damned choices especially…I once saw WM refuse to refill a 96 year old woman’s pain meds! Unbelievable! I say give the poor old woman a bottle of bourbon too if she wants it! She lived that long, didnt she? This opioid crap going on is just that…crap! Seems to me, pain is dangerous in itself, causing high bp from resisting & fighting the pain, then a freaking stroke too? We all need to file a class action suit against this crap going on! We’re not street addicts! 😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢
I really believe that, it is all part of their sinister plan!!!!!!!
It sure does but nobody is going to do it
My husband had a rotator cuff repair 4 years ago. The surgeon didn't mention his pain management philosophy until pre-op when he announced that he would not prescribe opiates. He used a pain ball inside the shoulder and rx'd Tramadol. In post op, we found my husband by the SCREAMING he was doing from all his pain. We called our PCP the next day for pain meds because his surgeon refused to write anything. We have no history of addiction, but that didn't matter. Glad to hear you discuss this.
If it happened recently, send a complaint to a Medical Board.
I've been told by orthopedic surgeons that rotator cuff surgery is the worse type of orthopedic surgery to get over and the most painful. I woke up under medicated from fusion of two discs in my neck. I started screaming and the nurse asked if I wanted pain medication...I guess you have to ask for pain meds after major surgery? After many years I still have pain from that surgery!
Seriously marijuana helps with pain
If this ever happens again, ask to speak to a patient representative and file a grievance.
@@tendr247 it may but it also smells like a skunk! I'll pass
I asked two surgeons about this before my recent lung wedge resection and ended up eliminating a local surgeon in favor of one three states away because the local surgeon was clearly paranoid about opioid prescriptions and I knew this would be a painful procedure. I received adequate pain meds in the other state and a superior surgeon as well at a well known university hospital. It’s been a month now and I am happy with my decision even though it ended up with a ten hour drive each way. Don’t be afraid to ask about opioid pain meds before selecting a surgeon.
If a person really wants to die they will find a way. It's not the Dr's fault. I speak as someone who's gone through this and thankfully I survived
But that’s completely wrong. It can infact be the Drs fault, when you are forced too live in unbearable pain for the REST OF YOUR LIFE. Praise God everyday you don’t have to go through what millions of others are!
I'm a retired BSN RN so I know a bit about what you are talking about. When I was practicing I treated pain because pain is telling us something is wrong and it's the body's way of informing us. Pain after an injury caused by surgery or fall, whatever, causes stress on the body and slows healing. Do you care if the patient heals or not? In this day and time we are not kept in hospital long enough as people were back in the day. Now it's all about in and out and make the most money by ordering tests. Not the head to toe physical assessment from one human to another communicating. The Dr.'s now want no part of communication or assessments. They simply don't give a sh!t, and they don't seem to know what they are doing or care. I'm disabled and retired now, and I am older, so I am becoming more and more invisible. I suffer from chronic pain that will not be going away unless you all learn how to do total body transplants. I never wanted, was actually shocked when I was banned from taking all the OTC pain med.'s because I ended up with acute abd in the ER. Sent to an orthopedic surgeon that put me on hydrocodone and muscle relaxer. I was still working and was so afraid to take these medications and how it would affect my mentation and judgement at work. I worked until I could no longer walk or lift bodies, or even supervise staff. Took me 5 years to get my disability and that took all of my retirement savings. I had always had the responsibility of taking care of family members both physically and financially...Dad was my last one my husband and I had with us. Now my husband takes care of me. And he's 10 yrs my senior. Honestly if they don't stop punishing the patients and take their war on drugs to the streets, I don't see how our older generation will live, or even want to live. I hate the changes in the medical services in the US. I need many things, but we can't afford them. You talk Pt/OT but that is only for the wealthy. Life is hard, and I will welcome the time God takes me Home to Heaven!
I’ve just started the thoughts of not wanting to live.
@@DarlingBo-bannie Oh hon I hope it wasn't anything I said. Perhaps most humans have times when they'd rather be in Heaven, but it's all in God's hands really. I will pray for you to feel better about your present and future. Call the suicide hotline...I've done it many times and they have always been very sweet to me. If you aren't OK with the one you get ask for a female or whatever you are comfortable with. OK? Pray to Jesus and talk to someone. You matter!
@@lorenrobertson8039 So true about General Practitioners not wanting to communicate with patients.
Here in California I've been with my current doctor's office for 5 years. It's always with a PA/NP. I've tried to stick to the same one for continuity-of-care... but there's always some problem. Either I don't really like the PA, or I just don't feel comfortable really sharing anything personal. It sucks because my last doctor was also my friend (he retired).
I know I'm getting adequate healthcare, but I miss having a relationship with my doctor on a personal level. After going there for 5 years - that's not the case. It sucks. Get them in/get them out.
I hear you sister!! I’m a former Critical Care Nurse. I’ve had multiple cervical fusions which lead to total nerve damage in my right hand, arm and shoulder. I’ll bet you can’t guess where my original injury occurred?? Yup, lifting a 450lb patient at work . Go figure! Especially because at the time I was less than 100lbs / 4’11” . I ended up herniating C3-T1 , the only problem was the so called orthopedic surgeon treated me for C5-C7 . So my spine was unstable for over a year trying to fight with Workers Comp to allow another corrective surgery to occur by a neurosurgeon, someone who knew something about nerve pain and spines!! Unlike the first quack!! I had a total of 7 surgeries to try to fix the problem of nerve pain but all they did was cause more damage due to scar tissue. This happened back in 2009. I ended up with Fibromyalgia on top of that in 2015. I was being medicated at that time with Oxycodone 10 mg. They tried all of the other poisons they try to push on people like Lyrica, Nuerontin, Baclofen , all that did was make me drool and feel totally disconnected. Because my pain was so severe OxyContin was added to my regimen. It was a Godsend to say the least. Finally, I could function once again as a human being. That was up until that Thursday, when the BS LYING OPIOID CRISIS hit the media!! The DEA ( I was married to an agent when that happened) started harassing all pharmacists who were dispensing Opioids. Some of the Mom & Pop pharmacies closed overnight! What did the pharmaceutical companies do next, they took all effective ingredients out of ALL of the Opioids and replaced them with fillers. Perdue pharmaceutical company almost killed so many people with their fillers! Many had diarrhea, vomiting and cardiac issues and more. People started complaining on their review page . What happened after that?? They took down the reviews and the page . They began to censor everything, no one was allowed to complain or should I say, tell the truth!! I could go on and on… it’s so sad that Nursing is no longer a profession of compassion. This new generation is being taught a whole different ball game. Pain is no longer the fifth vital sign. Pain has become objective rather than subjective. They will dictate what you are feeling and medicate you with Tylenol, ibuprofen or maybe Tramadol , a once over the counter medication that’s now considered an “ opioid “ . I feel your pain . I was also diagnosed two years ago with Babesiosis, similar to Lymes but 10 times worse!! My body is so broken and no one gives a shit. Healthcare is nothing more than another money making institution!! I call hospitals Medical Hotels because that’s what they’ve become. It’s not about healing any longer, it’s about how much money can they make off of each barcode that they scan on your wrist. Like one of the Dr’s I know said, WELCOME TO COMMUNISM. I like to refer to it as Socialism, government controlled medicine!! At 64 years old, I’m just waiting for my number to be called. I have absolutely no happiness or any quality of life anymore!! We are all addicts and I’ve heard some say that we were the cause of the overdoses that occurred. The original problem was a Heroin Crisis, if I’m not mistaken that still exists along with the newest one, fentanyl overdoses!!! 😪
😭🥺🥺❤❤.
Broke my arm to the point of complete evulsion from my shoulder. About 12 titanium pins placed, not to mention 8 inches of staples. That bas***d surgeon gave me one weeks pain meds. I've had several major surgeries but never pain like that. Clearly he had to know I legitimately needed more. That surgeon will never touch me or family members ever again.
Doesn't matter, only reviews matter
@@sl4983 what?
That's all they will prescribe now after a major surgery. You have to call them the day before you run out for a refill. Someone will have to go to the doctors office and pick up the refill prescription. They will not tell you about this.
@@pegs1659 Pegs, I begged him for pain meds. I'm an RN, NOT A DRUGGIE. I honestly felt I was dying. I have an MD friend who gave me a prescription and that was the only reason I survived the torture.
My sister was dying… for years. She was in severe pain and they did not give her anything. WTH she’s dying anyway, let her be pain free. I think it’s cruel and disgusting they allowed her to suffer.
What about those patients who commit suicide because they have excruciating pain daily and the doctors refuse to prescribe pain meds?? I heard a doctor tell this about a patient he had.
THIS.
Absolutely
This crosses my mind, today I'm still here.
Same
Another note: My state stopped covering opiates with certain exceptions. My housemate's friend, who was wounded in combat, got all the coverage for his pain meds taken away. He dealt with the pain for six months until he committed suicide. He told my housemate the night before "I am in so much pain. I can't take it anymore..."
Do physicians get those calls, when they commit suicide because of the pain they're in?
😢
Someone should definitely be telling them!
I'm sorry about your friend. you ask a good question. Maybe people, instead of calling the crisis line SHOULD call their physicians when they are about to commit suicide. That way the physicians can feel the outcome of their callous restrictions and refusals to treat people. I'm learning that some pain doens't have a cause that you can see. But it is inimaginable that people with visible causes for their pain ALSO cannot get treated. It's so cruel.
I have letters ready to go...when I go.
Probably not. They don’t care either. I’ve had Drs look at me like”Yeah, right”when I say boldly and honestly that I’ve contemplated suicide from moments enduring the worst pain of my life. I have tried EVERYTHINGGGG, been a lab rat, every procedure since a little girl and even still they look at you sideways like a drug seeker just bc no one wants to go back to the treatment regimen that works for fear of losing their license. Thx DEA. I HIGHLY doubt they care if we off ourselves. I’ve been in and out of hospitals since two years of age. They care about money and themselves, typically. To them, death is just part of the job. God help us all 🙏🏻
I have to add that due to damage from surgeries, I am opiates , due this opiate hysteria I was under treated for two years, lost my job , had no life . Now im properly treated i have a full time job , have studied and gain additional qualifications, a degree and passed a driving test & motorcycle test. Now im a functioning person. Stop labelling all patients based on actions of a couple ! 😮
Good for you!! I'm happy you got some relief so you can thrive!
As the wife of an 87 year old with terrible back pain, I personally don’t care if an addict uses drugs destructively. Don’t take them from those who need and use responsibly.
My old life consisted of traveling to 35 countries with my husband for half the year for his work. While home in PA, I saw my 6 children and 3 grandkids. I worked on our 350 year old house and extensive gardens. I worked in an art store. I was a certified personal trainer and a certified massage therapist. Then I got RSD, now called CRPS, or Complex Regional Pain Syndrome, the most painful chronic condition a human can have (not including injuries.) It can move around the body; it did in my case. First, right shoulder and wrist, so everything I enjoyed doing stopped except seeing family.
But now it’s in the worst place possible: my feet. No more travel since I can’t walk. I psych myself up to use crutches at home to get from my bedroom to the bathroom. I’ve been living IN my bedroom for 2 years, only going to doctors. It took me 18 months into the feet CRPS to get some pain meds, on my tele-appt. with my neurologist when I burst into tears and talked about suicide. I’d been his patient for 19 years by then. He prescribed an opioid, but the pain is so severe it just means I can have a very light blanket on my feet in bed. Life shouldn’t be this way when medicine has the answer for people like us. There’s no cure for what I have. My husband (we’re together since’75) has a highly aggressive Stage 4 Prostate Cancer and his chemo is starting to slip. He’s already lived longer than his prognosis, but I want to care for HIM, and he’s still working plus making all my meals and running my medical life because I’m deaf. I can’t use phones to make appts. As for “Medical Secrets?” My GP told me the real one. He said they were discharging ALL chronic pain patients from the practice (I’d been going there for 28 years) because it was too much PAPERWORK. So that left me cold turkey to get off Nucynta and F patches (a high dose; I could actually function!) with no tapering. I just about lost my mind. This was at the very beginning of doctors calling their patients drug-seekers.
I’m sorry for the length; I’m in the hospital for asthma with more time on my hands than usual.
I'm so sorry for your pain and all you are going through.❤
I'm so sorry for you, dear one❤😢🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼
Please, for those that feel stupid...what the heck do the initials as a diagnosis mean? I cannot understand exactly what disease you have. God Bless you for all your pain. I completely understand as I am in physical decline as well.
Blessings to you & your husband. You are not alone. I'm right there in both of your situations. I have stage IV metastatic lung cancer w/mets to brain. Plus other chronic pain issues. It's a horrific way that we are "living" if you can call it that. It is the government's fault that the Drs are are of. You can't have too many people in your practice on opioid meds. The pain clinics can't prescribe more than 100mg per day of morphine equivalent. Many had to close their pain practices because the government was threatening to revoke their medical licenses if the gave too many pain scripts. The Drs are afraid. The government meddling in patients previously private medical records & telling Drs what & how to do their jobs is what has everything shut down. Some idiot in a 2014 hospital admission wrote drug abuse in my med. record because my last script before I was thrown out of my Neurologists practice after 8 years, showed up on that stupid government I-stop, I think it's called something like that. The moron just wrote drug abuse without any evidence of ANY drug in my system, blood, or otherwise. I assume his reasoning was that if someone is taking pain medication, they must be an abuser or misuser. I can't get ANY type of Doctor to take me as a patient when they ALL see that. Cancer or no cancer. Spinal cord damage, & other painful issues. I cry alot of the time. The pain in my SI joint is just as bad as the nerve pain in my chest wall. I was even told not to come back to a certain Hospice due to this record. Imagine that I cannot even die in peace. This world has run Amok. I hope you somehow get the care you need. I would leave the US if possible, but I don't have the means. The constitution means nothing anymore. Life, liberty & happiness. Peace & dignity. Where did it go ? Love & peace to you both. My heart hurts for you & with you. Nancy
My former GP who I'd seen for years, had a sign on his desk about being a registered cannabls prescriber. He even mentioned it as well. When I asked if I could be prescribed it as it is suggested as an option for HEDS, he said exactly the same thing. A lot of other bad experiences in his practice actually made me convinced he was trying to get rid of me as a patient, though I was compliant, polite etc. But to advertise and mention cannabis for pain relief and then refuse to prescribe it because he said it was too much paperwork is just cruel. Plus other examples, eg nurse wrote my mother had Down's Syndrome instead of HEDS
AFTER I'd explained HEDS to her. Just f..g unbelievable.
I have been on opiates from 30 years old and to the present, 57. And I have had a Dr. or two that tried to get me off I have Reflex Sympathetic Dystrophy or Complex Regional Pain Syndrome. A severe nerve, muscle and pain disease. Of course warned about what opioids combined with Tylenol could do, Ibuprofen 600-800 mg given 2-3 x daily was so pushed to keep my pain more in control. Don't fall for that. I now have Barretts esophagus which basically means I have burned up my esophagus. These Drs. are better off prescribing us with opioids that if they do have Tylenol.. Stop trying to keep us in fear of liver damage. 4 grams per days causes the damage. Why force IBP when the outcome is much more debilitating. Many!! need to go back for a refresher course. And I dare say we in the pain community should be the teacher. And if they fail they will be destined to repeat it!!! Peace and Blessings to All my fellow sufferers!!!
Barret's esophagus may possibly be the result of chronic use of ibuprofen or other NSAIDs. I was on aspirin for about 30 years and was fine until I developed stomach ulcers. It's been 25 years since then and I still can't take any NSAIDs and I still need to take a course of omeprazole or esomeprazole for one week, every few weeks, to keep it under control and prevent further damage to my stomach, duodenum, and esophagus. Opioids do their own kind of damage. Mostly just constipation. That can lead to inguinal hernias, mostly in men but sometimes in women too. You get constipation but the opioids may prevent you from realizing how bad it is. So it is important to eat lots of leafy greens, fresh fruit, use only whole grains, no white flour in any quantity, keep white rice to a minimum, and take Miralax (PEG 3350) and stimulant laxatives such as senna, as needed, and perhaps prophylactically. So get a good, goldilocks amount of fiber in your diet. Also, hypothetically, opioids might accelerate the damage from NSAIDs, because lack of peristalsis in the intestines may cause food to stay in the stomach longer, which may cause an increase the amount of hydrochloric acid secreted into the stomach. That's hypothetical though.
@@soilmanted Thank you for your comment. Yes, I agree with the use of 3 800mg per day is the cause of Barrett's esophagus. Also the pain meds! Them I hear that Celiac disease causes it. This info is so new since I only got diagnosed about 2 years ago. I am saying your comment to over again and again. It's sometimes extremely uncomfortable if it flairs up so I am gluten free and on a carnivore diet, animal products only, no carbs, no sugar and my health is so much better. And never ever on Nsaids again!! Please and Blessings!!🙏💖
@@annanderson1470 wow! Carnivorous diet! I'm doing just the opposite, I eat plant products only.(except for the gelatin capsules that some of my medicines come in) and we are both still alive! Wonderful how adaptive human beings are, to different diets. That's why zoologists call us omnivores. Like our relatives the pigs (whose digestive system are similar to ours) we can survive on anything. I'm not convinced that a pure carnivore diet is sustainable long term due to the high level of animal fat. Will it cause atherosclerosis? Yes so will plant oils. I recently drastically reduced my consumption of plant oils. Little or no in oil or shortening form. Nothing fried. I add small amounts of blanched almond butter or sesame seed butter (tahini) to some food, like for example salad dressing. And I put walnuts in my oatmeal. Walnuts have omega 3 fatty acids, which we need, as well as the omega 6 fatty acids that are the most common in the foods of the industrialized west. I'm not sure what kind of fatty acids are in dairy products and animal fat. I'll have to look it up. Thank you for your post. It was interesting. I know close to nothing about celiac disease. While we have a digestive system typical of an omnivore,, I think we should be careful about concluding from that an omnivorous diet is the best for us. All you have to do to understand that things are more complicated that they might seem, is look at the digestive system, and the diet, of the chinese panda bear.. It has a digestive system typical of a carnivore, yet in the wild eat eats almost nothing but a single type of bamboo shoot -.like bamboo shoots and bamboo shoots all day and nothing else. It also creates an unusually large amount of poop. Would it be healthier if it ate some animal flesh? Could it even digest animal flesh. I have no idea. Its existence serves as a warning to people who jump to conclusions. Looks like a carnivore. but it ain't. I'm not sure if it has any ability to stalk and attack prey animals. Lack of such abilities might be the reason it doesn't do that.
@@soilmanted Just got my blood work back and the Dr. was so pleased with it. First time I didn't have statins pushed down my throat, good cholesterol was excellent., bad was the same. Electrolytes were great which was off balance before. Celiac, my friend, has caused me severe diarrhea, bloating, heartburn for 34 years. Everything I ate came straight out and at times up. The carnivore diet changed that within days. Also with Barrett's esophagus, it's been tough but I am feeling tremendously better. And finding this Drs. podcast has helped me so much!! To God be the Glory because now at rest and peace and my body is healing.. Please research carnivore because so much is lacking in your diet and was in mine as well. We need fats from real butter not oils. I didn't eat hardly any meat and my body was not producing certain hormones that causes our bodies to function properly. I wish you all the best. I will tell you that the government has lied to us especially about the food pyramid. Amongst other things. Peace and Blessings to you and your family 🙏😊
@@annanderson1470 Well, good luck on your journey. "We need... butter." Many East Asians and Southeast Asians have lived for 1000's of years without any dairy products. Keeping mammals and milking them just was not part of their culture. That seems to probably be why lactose intolerance is so common among these people - being unable to digest lactose did not affect their ability to survive and reproduce so those who for one reason or another could no digest lactose, survived. JSame is true for descendants of many sub-Saharan African tribes. Just a little bit to the west, people in India depended heavily on dairy, but would not kill their cows. How do you kill your adoptive mother who nursed you for years? You don't You take care of her. Some sub-Saharan tribes like the Maasai were, and some still are, nomadic cattle-herders and ate plenty of dairy products. Cow milk is low in iron; adults need iron to live; blood from mammals is high in iron; Maasai not only milked their cows, but bled them too. Then they mixed the milk and blood together and drank it. I think they also fermented this mixture too, I don't recall. And they killed their cows, but not often. I'm guessing - when they couldn't produce milk anymore? I'm just guessing. I don't remember. I took some cultural anthropology courses. I had been involved for a short time with a group that was providing services for Maasai people. Supposedly without trying to promote Christianity or convert anyone. The Maasai have their own set of religion-like cultural beliefs and ideas about the what and why of being human.
Yeah had an ALIF and the pain management was so poor I ended up having a mental break and paid thousands in therapy. I’m terrified of doctors now and will never trust one again.
The development of "Chronic Pain Syndrome" is often caused by patients suffering unnecessarily for long periods of time because the doctors do not treat the pain in a timely and dose-appropriate manner.
I think it's horrible how doctors are being with controlled meds
Even if your insurance approves your dose, it's pointless because doctors are so "afraid of losing their license" because of intervening pharmacists.
You can buy it on the street and addicts do, but legally is another story.
@@hauntedbearchild Probably good not to take that chance these days
@@hauntedbearchildhalf way through this video i made a text and they are on the way over with a Bottle.
2 years ago I hade heart bypass surgery. During the surgery the surgeon dislocated one of my ribs. The day I was sent home the nurse came in to remove ivs UNHOOKED ME FROM A MORPHINE PUMP, sent me home with a known dislocated rib, a wired together sternum with Tylenol 3.
All night all I could do was set at the front edge of our sofa, I couldn't lie down or sit back. My wife stood in front of me while I clutched on her and cried, sometimes screaming and begging her to bring my pistol because the pain was truly unbearable.
When the surgeons office finally returned our call the next morning we were told all he was authorized to prescribe was Tylenol 3.
I was loaded up and taken to the ER just to get relief from pain
they seem to forget their oath FIRST DO NO HARM.
I detest doctors now
This was a topic on a radio station one day. People were calling in, talking about either not being able to get relief, or either how they needed relief everyday. Then a woman called in and said she didn't think people needed pain medication. Oh my, that woman caught hell! One man called and said he was 67 yrs old, still worked using a shovel and took one pill a day to get him thru his work, and that she probably sat behind a desk painting her fingernails and sprinkled her ideology on the world! It got worse than that, but I was right there saying get her!! Get her!!
My father in law who is 80 yrs old and is still working 20 hrs a week. He has had a double hip replacement about 6 yrs ago. I told him to go in and ask for a prescription of 10 pills! He has never asked or used any pain medication and I'm pissed they refused to give him anything. He even said he didn't want it monthly, just something for when the pain was to bad to sleep or do anything after he got off work.
That's terrifying
As an RN I call tell you I have seen so many patients in the last few years become suicidal from terrible, chronic pain, that could be treated. The younger doctors especially, do not believe that people can really suffer from chronic and acute pain. I don't know what's going to happen with the current trends in pain management, but there has to be a middle ground between neglect and pain management
Hi doc, I need to be honest as soon as I saw this video it was a med ptsd trigger, but only wanted to share one thing cause I can’t continue to watch at moment. This topic is So difficult for me and others to handle, one can hardly give a “legit” comment via youtube… I will say something I learned as a young officer in the military was that whenever someone leads a sentence with”with all do respect “ I know I’m NOT going to get the level of respect I command, and 9/10 doctors lead with it once pain meds come up…. Please 🙏 don’t take this as a bash against you, it’s just to “painful “ of a topic… just that simple… Chris
Right there with you. Sick of it.
I hear you LOUD AND CLEAR, Sir.
I completely understand - I’m shaking right now
We used to consider pain as the 5th vital sign in treatment. Dr's are afraid to prescribe. It's ridiculous . Let us have some relief. Orthopedic nurse , retired. 72 now with all sorts of arthritis myself. I just need a narcotic to get comfortable at night so I can sleep. One pill a day is all I need , and want , and deserve.
Took my mom to ER one Vicodin every 6 hours was doing nothing. Turns out she has a kidney stone and it’s blocked the kidney stent. Gee, she wasn’t exaggerating about her pain.
Bless her heart. Painful situation for her.
@@chanelv5373 it truly is and it’s soul crushing to see a person suffer. She will have surgery tomorrow. She was a psychiatric RN for almost 40years. She took care of people and she deserves the care as well. She truly loved being a nurse. I remember onetime one of the patients walking around cheerfully saying “bingo Ritaanne is my nurse”!
Oh good glad she’s having surgery. She will start feeling better once they get that stone out. 🙏🏽 for a quick recovery.
One of the best and most caring, compassionate, and helpful pain specialists in my country, who is also an addiction specialist, has twice been called into the coroner’s court, after two patients (years apart) were found dead from meds he prescribed.
He was dragged over the coals twice and fortunately continued to work and teach in his field.
I know these were some of the most stressful experiences of his life, yet he still prescribes durable and appropriate pain relief, including opiods, where necessary.
It know it is is a difficult tightrope for him to walk on a daily basis.
It is a great shame that so many doctors err too far on the side of caution, leaving some patients with inadequate treatment for their chronic pain.
Over the past few years in dealing with neuropathy and afib, I've seen what feels like a million different doctors and I've come to realize that most doctors really don't care. They don't listen, they just want your money.
I agree!
I have neuropathy as well and have found that t h c gummies work well. Hope you can find some relief ❤
Do you have neck and shoulder pain or sometimes find it difficult to swallow?
Omg you just mentioned Ehlers Danlos Syndrome!!! I can’t believe you know about EDS! Thank you for acknowledging a little known, debilitating disorder. I have classical EDS and severe pain but stopped taking narcotic pain meds on my own. I didn’t want to have to take medication to function as I’m only 45. However, now that I stopped daily narcotics, no one will prescribe them again. I’m drinking more alcohol instead to help the pain because I don’t have any other way to control the pain. I’m disabled from my career as a nurse due to chronic injuries in almost all my joints and I miss it so much! I don’t have much hope for my journey in pain management but thank you for this video and being such a caring doctor!
CBD oil has helped a lot of patients, including me. Howard Levy Gene Review 2014 updated article on Ehlers Hypermobility recommends it if that helps you get it.
I noticed that he mentioned that too and it was refreshing as someone who believes that I have it and I’m going through the diagnosis process now. But I’m also disappointed about how he talks about patients here. Because I’m on opioids for my pain control and I hate how they make me feel but I’ve been on opioids on and off for decades now. I would love to be able to function without them but I just don’t think that’s a reality for me. I get tired of being treated like I’m a drug seeker by medical professionals and recently I had to endure a heart catheterization with very little sedation and no pain medication. It was to repair a atrial septal defect but it was so incredibly painful and I felt everything!!! They refused to help me during and immediately following my procedure and I was in tears 😭 through the entire experience. Doctors are doing real harm when they treat patients this way and it certainly doesn’t help with healing. I’m being slowly weaned down from the higher dose of medication that I’m on and although my doctor is going slowly….. I worry about where I’ll end up by the time I’m at a “safer” dose.
Please try marijuana. I'm only a hEDS 🦓 but it helps me.
@@jellyfishattack I’ve tried Marijuana and it does help me. I live in a state where recreational use is legal. But I do have to be careful with it because it can and often does make me sleepy, even if it’s a sativa. So I tend to only use it as a last resort.
I have EDS and the combination of low dose naltrexone and gabapentin has helped my pain. I also highly suggest prolotherapy to repair damaged ligaments/joints
I could not agree with these statements more!
Until you know what it feels like to live in constant pain, unrelenting pain, don't make us pay for the abusers.
thank you!!
Doctors are more concerned about keeping their license than prescribing pain meds. I get it. It is their livelihood. I used to go to the ER like it was my second home, lost all my veins and had five ports than all got infected when they could have given me pain killers. I only get one pill daily from four pills daily and a patch so now I am suffering daily. Addiction is a chronic illness so they are sick too but unfortunately they are causing pain patients to be medical nomads and a lot of us are killing ourselves. I meditate daily, exercise, go to therapy, and eat well, but I am still in pain. I get abused by the medical system all the time. Marijuana has not helped and only gives me an appetite. I am still thankful that one pill. Thanks for sharing your content.
Also to note they have begun sending patients to Nurse practitioners so that they cannot prescribe pain rx's. IMHO until they start calling the "Opioid crisis" what it really is there is no end to this. Heroine and Fentanyl addictions, and the drugs addicts that abuse anything they can get their hands on have created hell for those who responsibly used opioids in conjunction with other health measures.
Nothing is going to change until the social stigma about addiction ends.
@@antoniobravo892 Nothing will change until the addict to just get high and live on the street enabling ends. They coddle the addicts who choose to live that way and punish the legit patient in pain.
I think it's just an excuse to not give patients the meds they really need
Refuse to be pushed to a NP'
I know from experience that NP's can and do write prescriptions for opioids in Colorado! It must be a law in the State you live in that does not allow the Nurse Practitioner's to write these prescriptions? Check with the MD in the practice that oversee these NP's if they are licensed to write these prescriptions, they may just be misleading you into thinking they can not, that way they don't have to deal with doing it?
I went to the ER for burning pain, the Doctor gave me a shot of some kind of pain killer then sent me home with a few pain pills, the very next morning I was back in the ER for the same pain but it was worse, the hospital made me sit for four hours in terrible pain, now mind you I took only one of the pain meds he gave me the night before. After waiting for four hours the nurse took me to the back and did not give me a small room to wait for the Dr, she stood me in the hallway and to my surprise the same Dr that treated me the night before walked up to me and I quote he said why are you here? I said my pain is worse he then said I told you I could not help your back last night then walked away from me, I was pissed because I knew he thought I was there for drugs!! When he walked away I said to him come back here and he did I lifted the back of my shirt and said what is this on my back? He looked and said oh you have shingles, he did come to me with a shot for pain then said I am sorry I never looked at your back last night.. So these Doctors need to stop treating all people like we are all on drugs.
Extra strength Tylenol ❔. Not so good at calming pain.
I'm about to give up. I can't handle this pain anymore. I've never been addicted to anything my entire life. I've known so many drug addicts, and went through a living hell trying to help them. All the doctors I'm seeing are treating me with absolute cruelty.I am at my end.
I'm so tired of being treated like I am the reason for the opioid problem. I have fibromyalgia, a 30 year old back injury with DAILY sciatic nerve pain. I have arthritis in my neck and the rest of my back. I'm in pain all the time. I've tried all the other options out there. I've also had gastric bypass, so, I am not supposed to take any NSAIDS. I'm told I can get biofeedback (it's not in my head!) And acupuncture (seriously?!) I'm an RN. I'd rather not be in pain and have to take anything. My pain is legit. This is insane. I may be physically addicted to meds while I'm on them. But, I'm able to easily wean myself off. I'm not jonesing for my next fix. I just want to have pain relief. My options are limited. Why should we have to pay the price for the few that abuse it.
Makes me want to cry for you💔😥
I'm in the same situation and your dependant, not addicted. Addicted is when you ignore doctors instructions and start taking more and more on your own. Yes , if dependant you have to taper off them. They took me off opiods and give me gabapentin. Only problem is it gives me little pain relief and after looking it up find out it's addictive, can have severe withdrawals, even seizures. Gee, doesn't that sound much better. Now everyone I talk with is taking gabapentin. I think it's just doctors trying to ease their guilty consciences.
A sad truth is that every time the crunch on legal opioids tightens heroin overdoses increase...
It's an accepted fact that prohibition created fentanyl. It's called the iron law of prohibition. It also created the hepatitis and HIV outbreak because when opium and heroin are cheap, people take it orally or smoke it, they don't shoot it.
Doctors who see you as a whole person and check how you are in other parts of your body, including your mind, is so valuable and rare. Sometimes the patients themselves don’t know that they are struggling beyond a point where they are at risk of hurting themselves. Sometimes it takes a genuinely caring person to ask the right question to open the door that leads to a whole person recovery.
Especially when we know that some of our physical symptoms, including chronic pain, can be caused by or influenced by our mental health, especially trauma. It’s so difficult to find a holistic doctor who isn’t just trying to treat one or two symptoms in isolation but to realise that a holistic approach is needed to address the root cause of the suffering of the person.
I wish I didn’t have to educate myself and go through so much medical trauma to realise this is what I need, and even then I haven’t had much luck finding someone who is willing to oversee my whole body care. And when I bring the insights I gained from my experience and research to the discussion about my treatment options, it seems to turn a number of doctors off who gives off the “I’m the qualified doctor here, what you learned off the internet is just b.s”. They never bother to learn that I have a degree in human anatomy and a postgrad in science, or that I know my own body better than they do. Many of them aren’t even keeping up with the latest research and it shows. 🫤
I think splitting medicinal practices into departments like neurology, podiatry, dermatology, etc. Well, poor pcp's are no longer to be knowledgeable about rotator cuffs that require surgery or a woman's debilitating cramps. Too many wonderful treatments are available, and the knowledge changes often
Nailed it!
@@carolgibson-wilson4354 I believe you are spot on! I have 13 doctors and I am blessed to have almost all of them under the same hospital group. They all have a separate patient portal for their practice yet there is a main hospital chart they are able to look at. It still makes things difficult for things like after a surgery-I have had 25 so far-because I had to sign a "pain contract" with my PCP meaning outside of the hospital I can only get pain meds from him. Even though I am blessed to have an amazing PCP & Orthopedic Surgeon, who has done most of my surgeries it is still difficult to get through all the red tape & all. I'm also on a Fentanyl patch all the time so any post-op pain meds are on top of them, as well as needing a higher dose to help surgical pain. It is difficult at best.
This particular observation is interesting. During the beginning of the pandemic, I met with many of my specialist physicians via FaceTime. Prior to my scheduled FaceTime call, I would get nervous and speed clean certain areas around me. Then I had a lightbulb moment…a doctor can better understand pain scenarios I a, describing if they can see the “who, what, where, when and how” of my triggering event. So, I would walk the doctor through a particular scenario that was new to my history and my rheumatologist noted a location where I could easily add a support part to mitigate weight bearing on joints due to balance issues. Another specialist helped me factor in weakness in a particular muscle group which led to excess pain in the “rescuing” body parts/areas.
There are a number of articles in the ether touting the benefits of virtual visits but I haven’t seen any noting it’s assistance in diagnosing pain changes caused, in part, from a patient’s environment and their use of said environment.
Yeah, no...its the other way around. Chronic pain is the causation for mental stressors. Its also the leading cause of suicide.
I used to go to a pain clinic and I was on the Fentanyl patch but I couldn't get anything for breakthrough pain and was on a pain contract with them. Therefore I could not get anything from my PCP or any other doctors.
I had broken ribs and broke my back and I contacted my Dr at the pain clinic. The nurse contacted me and said "we don't treat broken bones!" I was livid!
I left the clinic and my PCP helped me with my pain! Ridiculous!
Having questioned a few pain clinics and researched them and their conditions I wouldn't touch them. Waste of time, money and they treat you like your a drug addict, though medically diagnosed with a painful disorder. They seem intent on taking you OFF opiates and CBD oil which help me. Even tramadol update.
As someone who's dealt with fibromyalgia for almost a decade, it got to a point where I believed that anyone who has a medical degree is psychopathic in some way.
I come from a medical family, so believe me, the doctor and the person are two different things, and the doctor-side of the person is completely psychopathic.
And I think you are a good doctor, but to assume that a doctor's anxiety is more important than the patient's wellbeing... That's a new low for me.
I thought I could ignore the pain I live with, until the natural pain-response system gave me serious hypertension, serious brain fog, limited ability to work due to migraines and jacked my system till I needed more intense therapy... The muscle weaknesses from hypertension meant I couldn't even brush my teeth normally. And, I was so skinny, I was bony. Since it was too painful to have food in my stomach, I would stick to sipping water,and after a while I couldn't even tolerate it. I couldn't sleep, but I was too exhausted when I was awake.
And what everyone was concerned about was me getting "addicted"... So I was denied treatment. Not just pain meds, but even the neurological ones!!!
And I'm supposed to compare all that suffering to a doctor's anxiety?? What about my anxiety? What about my feelings when the only way out of my pain is jumping off a balcony?? What about feeling suicidal because you'll never get well, yet you are punished for needing treatment???
You are not serving people when you let a huge amount suffer because of the sins of a few (which, btw, happened because you doctors got too greedy and took money from a pharmaceutical company, forcing the public to make laws to deal with that greed!!)
AMEN!!
Fibromyalgia, diabetic neuropathy AND chronic nerve pain from strokes. I'm getter approval for an electrical spinal nerve stimulator implant, as this WEEK, I've slept less than 2 hours (not one second last three nights) from the pain. I have a great church friend who is a retired teaching physician. His wife has had degenerative rheumatoid arthritis for 40+ years and has been bed-ridden most of that time. They have her on a spinal pain opioid pump to survive. Too many med students today learned at the "Dr. Mengele" skrul of torture.
No, there is a disconnect today in the typical GP office. I had one doctor ask me, when my appointment was because my pain was unbearaable, "Have you tried not thinking about the pain?" I lost my mind, I hobbled up from my chair and said, "Excuse me, I need to leave before I do something I will regret." She did ths IN FRONT of a either a student or resident. When I asked if marijuana might be a solution for the pain, this doctor said no she was afraid I woujld overdose? Overdose of marijuana? There is NO evidence to suggest such a feat has EVER happened but I would LOVE to try. Maybe THEN my pain would be under control.
WOW! that "Dr" is incompetent... I hope you filed a complaint
Don't do that. As in, try with thc or anything else. First because you're valuable, but answering directly to overdose on THC, I've smoked so much the world wouldn't stop spinning, I was having panic attacks, and eventually passed out, or rather fell asleep forcefully. It was unpleasant.
I’ve started making and using wild lettuce tincture to use with Tylenol. I am pleased with the results. I have a healthy disrespect for the medical doctors since Covid. I have a complete lack of respect for my orthopedic surgeon after the last shoulder replaced r/t pain management. He gave me 5mg Norco after surgery and expected it to do wonders. I am an RN and worked for 11 years on a chemical detox unit, so I know about addiction. This was just plain cruel. I’ll never go back to him.
I’m a nurse also and if I need surgery that is one first thing I will ask my surgeon- what type of pain medication do you subscribe after surgery and how many pills do to give? I have seen too many patients that don’t get adequate pain control after surgery anymore and I think it’s a crime.
I never understood why people feel a buzz using hydrocodone. It barely takes edge off my severe back, neck and shoulder pains. RN and took too many punches from patients causing fibro, DDD and arthritis. Retired now and pain is just as bad as when I was working.😢
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I never get a buzz from narcotics. They just dull the pain. In my early days of migraines which I would get at least every two to three weeks ( and they lasted 3 days), I had to go to the ER for Demerol injections. I was given 100 mg. After that I felt no pain or drowsiness and I could eat without nausea. Thankfully, Imitrex came out and I never had to go to the hospital for Demerol again!! And yes, you could feel the attitude that I was just drug seeking. I wanted them all to get a migraine just like mine several times and see how they felt about it then.
Morphine is highly overrated along with Oxycontin in my opinion.
The only narcotic that makes me sleepy and unsteady is Deluded.
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@@vickidickinson2888 As someone that has dealt with opiod addiction I can tell you this, if you are in true pain, you don't get a buzz or feel high from it, but if you are not in true pain (minor pain, take more than you should with moderate to severe pain, etc.) then you will feel the buzz/high. I kicked the addiction several years ago, cold turkey, but I have been perscribed opoids since then and never abused them. Took the correct dosage for the amount of pain I was in.
The most frustrating part of this whole fiasco are those who are more concerned with criminals who, guess what? Do CRIMINAL things, and pay the price. Then those of us dumb suckers who are lucky enough to end up with cancer are not allowed access to effective pain management due to criminals being criminals. The DEA's own numbers show that deaths in Rx-provided opioids are well under 10%. While every death represents someone's son, daughter, mother or other loved-one, the absolute and complete disregard for medically-necessary pain relief only to protect criminals is appalling.
Once again, Government organizations, with absolutely no medical training, are making rules and regulations to protect stupidity and criminal actions at the expense of medical patients who many times have no alternatives. I DEMAND that the DEA and HHS put medical necessity ahead of criminal activity results and start serving those who deserve it most.
Many times doctors are simply not willing to wade through the the regulatory BS required by govt agencies... too bad the criminals aren't held accountable to those same standards. A return to fairness, compassion and concern for patients MUST be required by those pencil-pushers who face no real consequences. I'll bet those attitudes will change when, God forbid, their own family member gets diagnosed with pain-relief-requiring conditions.
Remember Ronald Reagan's prophetic warning: "I'm from the government and I'm here to help."
I'm a nurse, retired. I've had 2 back surgeries. I have neuropathy. Everything thing I've said about chronic pain I've had to eat my words. I'm in 3rd stage chronic kidney failure from taking Ibuprofen for ten years. I'm 71 years old. My body is almost wrecked. I do good if I get 4 hours of sleep at night.
What would you say the problem was?
Ibuprofen has also been proven to cause heart problems if taken longer than 2 weeks. People need to educate themselves about OTC drugs, too. One of my aunts is a retired RN and thankfully has good relationships with the doctors she worked with who will prescribe her opioids when needed (she has chronic knee pain from working 12 hour shifts). My PCP won’t give me anything stronger than Tylenol 3’s for my chronic neck pain (disk injury) and my insurance company will only allow me 28 per month. 😮 PCP says anything stronger would have to be prescribed by a pain clinic…which would require MRI/X-ray/CT scan - it’s a racket for money.
But at least you don't have to worry about the "potential" of addiction. ..🤦♀️
I was being sarcastic btw. I'm so sorry to hear that. My Dr actually admitted that there were no known long term health consequences for tramadol (other than addiction), but there WAS for Tylenol and ibuprofen. I'm type 1 diabetic with gastroparesis, history of peptic ulcers, edema, an occasional build up & inflammation in my liver, and minor protein spillage. But it's better for my drs to put further stress on my organs with 800 mg of Ibuprofen 2x a day & max Tylenol vs continuing a medication (tramadol) I maintained at the *same exact dose, same time each day* for yrs.
Bc who knows, my risk for addiction could all the sudden appear out of nowhere after yrs of demonstrating that addiction was/is not my fight in life. For some it is, but it was never for me. Quality of life is a non issue for them. It's kind of cruel, condemning ppl to a lifetime of pain and a reduced quality of life bc of the fear (not proof) that we are all the same. I thought medicine was supposed to be data based rather than paranoia based.
It's sad that personal experience is the only way through to health care providers. I'm so sorry that you're suffering. There are millions of us.
Why aren't docs held accountable to national mandates as well as their own hospital guidelines....the latest CDC, FDA, DEA,ETC say in language a 3rd grader could understand -which medications MUST BE SLOWLY tapered off and never abruptly stopped !!!!
Because the cdc also said that the guidelines were JUST RECOMMENDATIONS and ONLY for new opioid patients ONLY under primary care…..and they didnt listen to that either. They do what the STATE tells them to do instead of what they know from years of treating patients. They are COWARDS.
You seem like a caring individual, and I need this to be clarified: when the body reaches a certain level of pain well beyond the little 1 to 10 scale that we always have to fill out, which is fine for gauging normal pain, I understand that; however, individuals in the medical field need to understand those who must live and attempt to function in their daily lives once that 1 to 10 scale no longer applies to said patient, they must find a realistic solution.
If someone is past that point, doctors need to understand that chronic acute pain must be effectively controlled for the individual to even remotely live a semblance of a normal life, like getting out of bed, taking a shower, going to work, or even going to the grocery store.
People must be able to control debilitating pain enough to get to their doctor's appointments; to simply live day to day.
Not everyone who takes the "evil" or "demonized" opioids is a drug addict wanting to get high.
That mindset comes from media outlets sensationalizing "opioid drug use on the rise in this country" news stories for views, whilst at 5:00, you will find 90% of these same people at happy hours after work daily or having cocktail parties at home.
It's an absurd double standard that needs to stop.
It's, "Oh, look at them over there popping pills; just don't pay any attention to me taking shots from my flask." mentality, and it's not correct.
Eric Clapton said it best: "Before you accuse me, take a look at yourself."
The blanketing effect needs to stop because the majority of people with severe constant 24 hour pain daily just want to be able to get dressed, go outside, and play with their dogs for an hour.
They just want to live some kind of "normal" life.
They're not drug addicts looking for their next fix.
Yet again, the pendulum is being swung too far in one direction, so everyone gets lumped together and thrown under the bus.
The mindset that everyone who takes the "Devil's Pills" is now squished under this hand towel is simply incorrect and must change.
Be the doctor who elevates this radical point of view, because that would be refreshing.
When you have to beg for a Benadryl or a cancer patient has to beg for a nausea medication they know actually works-even the doctor knows it works-but they have to fight those primary physicians and primary NPs for these things, the system is clearly broken.
Hopefully, this will inspire people to be part of the solution instead of continuing to be part of the blindingly obvious problem.
These doctors believe they all know what to do for themselves and their loved ones in regards to handling pain without certain medications. Until they, themselves, or their loved ones go beyond that 10-point scale, they do not understand what actually needs to be done, and I know they will all be first in line to get those "demonized" medications that are in reality not so evil.
I wish doctors would do away with the stupid 1-10 pain scale. Pain is somewhat subjective. My level 5 might be someone else’s 3 or 7. There are physical markers when someone is in moderate to severe pain - elevated blood pressure being the main one.
@grumpyoldlady_rants people with chronic pain can be in excruciating pain and not have it show up on vital signs. It's not a realistic option. Asking the 1-10 pain scale thing is helpful, even regarding the subjective nature, because you can judge if a pts pain has been lower relative to when it was worst, etc. The best gauge is a conversation about the impact the pain is having on someone's life, but a number is helpful to just know if it's been going up or down. It's not perfect, but it has its uses.
@yuyiyo911,
I'm going to step in here for a moment, I'm the one who left the original comment 3 months ago.
(Little late to the party, ain'tcha?)
First, getting "hurt" in video games doesn't actually hurt.
It's not real. Sorry, if that bursts your bubble, but it's true.
I just popped onto your little page for a tick.
It's obvious you have not experienced acute, chronic pain yourself otherwise.
You would be fully aware of how archaic and useless that little chart is especially when dealing with acute, chronic pain. That chart no longer applies to us. Give it to someone with the sniffles.
For those who deal with real-life acute, chronic pain 24/7 365, a 10 would feel like eating ice cream whilst riding a pink and purple sparkly unicorn on top of a double rainbow with Beyonce and a neverending basket of puppies and kittens.
Since that's tragically not the case, and you have obviously never personally experienced the over 10 on that ridiculous pain scale. Kindly rejoin the conversation when you have the slightest clue what you are talking about.
Cheers.
you said it best: "Yet again, the pendulum is being swung too far in one direction, so everyone gets lumped together and thrown under the bus."
And some people are more resistant to pain medication than others. As a Natural Redhead, I've had several medical people confirm that it takes MORE of all kinds of pain killers to affect me. Yet, I still run into doubters who tell me I couldn't possibly be in that much pain, even though a BP reading would tell them differently. Physicians, etc. need to LISTEN to their patients, and not just blow us off as unknowing idiots.
Exactly! I'm also a redhead. Everything that they say about us is true. I had a huge amount of dental work in 2002. I was well treated because Dr was aware of redhead genetics and pain med reactions. 🧡
This is a well-documented phenomena for redheads. Usually, it's been my experience, that the anesthesia department staff seem to be the most knowledgeable within the medical community. Thank the stars!!!
I’m a natural redhead. My experience with pancreatitis earlier this year and a surgery 2 weeks ago showed me that I have the constitution of an ox when it comes to painkillers. For the pancreatitis, I got 100mcg Fentanyl IV on the ambulance (divided into 2 50mcg doses), received 4mg IV morphine every 2-3 hours, and refused to go home unless I had the 10/325 Lortabs. I didn’t sleep until I got home and had 2 additional lortabs.
On my surgery 2 weeks ago, I was getting 4mg IV dilaudid, 4mg oral dilaudid, and 650mg Tylenol simultaneously. It wasn’t enough, but I only asked for it when it made me writhe.
I’m a hospice nurse. I always, always listen to my patients about pain, even before all of this 2023 personal pain jazz. Because EFF that.
Not a redhead, but have the gene that makes you metabolize pain relief quickly. They have trouble at times keeping me anaesthetised because of this. One procedure was ceased due to this.
This is why people don't trust doctors, myself included, anymore. We don't go to the doctor to have our symptoms masked, we go to get answers as to what is causing the pain, and to remediate that pain. Unfortunately, there are many disorders for which there is no cure or treatment, such as fibromyalgia. Especially, for sensitive patients. To the point that our livers are destroyed from having to take OTCs to try to get ourselves to a tolerable level. God forbid that you have multiple pain disorders. They all treat you like a drug-seeking bum. The only things doctors are good for, is emergency trauma. That's why I just say, "To hell with the lot of you.". If I have to diagnose and treat myself, what the hell do I need an asshole human being with an ego issue, for? So, yes. I have educated myself, better than a doctor minus the degree, because I can't count on or trust a physician to even correctly diagnose an issue. I really wish there was a device that we could hook ourselves and the doctor up to, and then transfer our pain onto...just so that they can experience what its like trying to function living inside our body.
Here in Arizona we have urgent care facilities that have signs stating they do not give any pain medication. My ex- husband 70 yrs old and works as an arson investigator. He was investigating a fire and fell at the scene. He went to urgent care and he had 2 fractured ribs and they told him ‘sorry our policy is we don’t prescribe anyone pain meds’ and told him to go to the ER. Luckily he called his PCP and he ordered him some tramadol. He ended up staying in a hotel for 2 days so he could take the pills and get the pain under control so he could drive back home from the fire scene 6 hours away.
@Shelley.....it's been my observation that no one gets what FMS is like unless they get it. THEN they're like 😳💩😳💩😔😭😭😭😶. So, yes, I admit I've wished it on ppl just so their holier than thou prick self can learn compassion! 😐
Amen!
Truth. This is a big reason for loss of trust and respect for drs. The sad thing is the brave/ knowledge able/ most desperate will get medication on the street- and that can be laced with scary stuff and cause odd bc you don’t know what you are taking. Doctors are the cause of these deaths.
Have you tried kratom?