The BEST WAYS To Heal Chronic Pain & Trauma WITHOUT Medication | Howard Schubiner
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Headaches, migraine, back, neck or joint pain, irritable bowel syndrome (IBS), fibromyalgia - they’re just some of the common causes of chronic pain, which is estimated to affect between a third to half of all UK adults, or just under 28 million of us. Emerging neuroscience tells us our brains actually create what we experience in our bodies, through a process called predictive processing. Pain doesn’t come from the body part where it’s felt, it’s created by our brain, signalling that something needs attention.
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My parents were alcoholic’s, my father got a brain tumor and my mother committed suicide the day he died at the age of 17 in 1979. I witnessed it all. I raised my siblings ….I can’t believe to tell you how hard my life is with fibromyalgia, chronic pain, tingling in my hands, etc. in 1979 you were on your own so I had no choice but to hold in my sadness, feelings, emotions. Medical community at a lose. I have had every test,. This interview helped me so… much! Thank you.
I am glad that you had some empowerment from listening to this chat. It sounds as if you had much more challenges that were not for you to carry and I hope for you that something in your days holds some joy or small solace. These enlightened professionals are certainly highly emotionally intelligent … so they help all of us.
wow , glad you found this to be able to overcome the traumatic experiences that happened ... 👍 ❤️
How you get cured
Yes, it's called Somotoform disorder. It's where emotional distress turns into physical pain.
I hope you heal soon 😢❤
I was in extreme and chronic pain, have autoimmunes, etc., and was sleeping whenever not forced to do something else (all while getting myself through graduate school). My healing began when I left my emotionally abusive husband. I have done the work these men are talking about and continue to do so. These docs and Gabor Mate (mentioned in this vid) have helped me become the best me I’ve been so far! As a 50 year old, I’m beginning to live my life, let go of my trauma, heal my CPTSD, and pursue a meaningful career.
So good to hear ☺️ I hope you make a video about it I would watch it 🎉
Congrats, you story sounds similar to mine less the graduate school. I was working on obtaining my Associates Degree but had to drop out. Stay strong and blessings to you!
@@punyashloka4946pulling out my 😊p
God Bless you!!
Abusive workplace.😢
Wow...A tree fell on me in May and knocked a large hole in my head and crushed my hip and broke and displaced my clavicle...I couldn't seem to get rid of the pain...but listening to you I was able to remind my body it is healed and I barely have any pain day one after listening to you. I cleaned for a 96 year old today without pain..thank God for your revelation..
Omg…. He told my whole story… including the car accident and back and neck pain 😭 ❤ thank you for this 💔 I am crying here, and I have been so emotionally numb for so long - endometriosis, sciatica, psoriatic arthritis, chronic lower back pain, painful pelvic pain, hormonal imbalance, insomnia (it’s past 3am as I type this), the list goes on…
Had a very painful/severely abusive childhood, followed by an abusive marriage, miscarriage, and now dealing with all the fallout. God bless us all dealing with and healing from this difficult hand we’ve been dealt x
You just told my whole life story. 😢🙏🏿
Actually you just told a major part of my story as well. Now as for myself being a previously professional pain or reducing anyone’s mind emotion and physical abilities. Don’t worry too much I can promise the offensive persons involved will pay unbelievable amounts in any and every way possible. And feel free to Have em reach out to me. I Have a pretty good recommendations that May have Ben covered here already. A real live experienced person might help immensely.
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My story matches yours in so many ways, too. There are far too many with experiences like us. Our real challenges have been ignored by the ‘medical’ industry.
I’ve focused for over 15 years on natural health, good eating, active lifestyle - 61 years old but feel and perform like that of those 20+ years younger.
Suddenly on Labor Day this year, ‘something’ unleashed in my cervical and thoracic spine! I packed myself in ice and laid in my living room floor for WEEKS - now everything has gone numb in my spinal regions but I still have pain that radiates down my left arm and up into my head. Numbness in my face, a strange metallic taste in my mouth. I’m also having cognitive challenges - my MRI shows the common conditions from my past imaging tests and now includes spinal stenosis, multiple Nerve root impingements and 2 areas of spinal cord compression with no faulty cord signals. None of these nor the medications I’m on explain ‘all’ My symptoms.
I’ve had initial tests Alert to multiple organ failures (heart, thyroid, kidneys) but further tests reveal ‘nothing is really wrong there’ - it’s all just BIZARRE!!
I’m awaiting nerve conduction study tests scheduled December 18 …
Wondering how the heck I prompt my Drs to evaluate past traumas to get this addressed properly rather than the standard processes that truly do not ever resolve the source traumatic causes of these issues (and how do I avoid them sending me to an institution while claiming I’m mentally wrecked/crazy) 😢😢
I’m so sorry.
These men are phenomenal. If every MD were like this …. Trained like this …..our medical system would not be nearly as toxic as it is .. excellent interview and information .
I’m 😊😊 44:30 😊
Toxic is the right word to use for the US system per my experience.
they are sales plp to the medication industry, exepst these 2
Very informative video. Would say this information provided would help those suffering from RA/Osteo condition and operation of knees been suggested for as padding has worn out. Your comments would help tremendously. Thanks.
If doctors were like this, there would not be people walking around in chronic pain.
Yes absolutley. The organs weep the tears the eyes refuse to shed ❤
That is a lovely way to explain it!
WOW that is an absolutely beautiful statement ❤️
Poignant truth! Get your poems out please.
That's deep, thank u ❤
Oh my gosh!
I 100% agree with this. This is what EFT is based on. Releasing trauma in the body so that you can relieve your body of chronic pain. I've been dealing with health issues and part of my healing journey was to tell family members that they hurt me so that I could release it, emotionally and physically.
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True forgiveness is realising what the negatives in your life taught you by your family.. you just passed your pain to them
Every doctor, every nurse, every healthcare professional should watch this.
Many know all about this, but don’t have the tools to help. But even more so, patients won’t accept “it’s all in your head” as a diagnosis.
Once, I was told by a ‘’health professional’’ that my back can not completely heal because ‘’it’s not a 20 years old back’’. I was about 45 years old at that time and it was really disheartening to hear that. However, I did get better! Thank you so much for speaking about this topic as it’s very important! 🙌
Doctors are crooks
I am a doctor in Obstetrics and study Psychology when I came to live in the UK. I have found that children copy the symptoms of their parents !!
Thank you this is a great talk !!
@@dorothymasey2784 So do pets!
@@dorothymasey2784 Yes!!! We believe it's normal for us to inherit it, and we copy the symptoms that create it, therefore, willing it into our lives because it's familiar & "normal." Been there and done that with spinal stenosis and degenerative disc dis-ease. Working on it now with Dr. Schubiner's "Unlearn Your Pain" workbook.
@@bethmiller6827 Absolutely true! It's like they absorb it readily into their bodies as they love us so unconditionally! 🐾🐾❤
Can you imagine what it would be like if most doctors were like these men?
It would be a radically different world.
But the doctors could not afford the new set of gold hubcaps on their new Cadillac!!😂😂😂😂😂😂
If the human greed could separate itself from the medical industry, it would be a better world!!
They want to keep us coming back to Western medicine that mainly treat symptoms never addressing root problem. They have turned our health care into a business driven by big Pharma. It's pretty disgusting. I am currently working on healing my mind and body that became more ill after trusting my doctors, who made me worse, prescribing me medications they convinced me were' safe' since they weren't narcotics. They were all very much aware that I was in recovery from opioid addiction since 2008 and was leary about taking anything because of my history. Because of chronic pain from fibromyalgia, EDS, osteoarthritis, migraines, and severe neck pain, which created depression and anxiety. Reluctantly, I eventually started the medicine and never felt any better, only for my doctors to explain I was not taking a high enough dose and increased the dosage to only feel more and more depressed, more anxiety that turned into mania with extreme mood swings and fatigue that was debilitating. I thought I was going into early menopause with hot flashes, night sweats, more extreme and often migraines, blurry vision,cognitive decline, brain fog, insomnia all side effects I continued to tell my physicians never warning me it could be the medications that were prescribed until I thankfully had heard the term Black Box Warning ⚠️ for the antidepressant I continued to tell them I didn't even feel like ever helped. I should have never been on this medicine because of my GI bleed with ulcers should have never been on since I had underlying health issues but on top of that it isn't supposed to be perscibed for more than a few weeks-months since worsening depression, anxiety, more pain issues, suicidal ideation and all the menopause symptoms that were causing me infertility and was in absolute shock as I started to unravel why I was feeling worse and worse doing nothing but literally turn on me after asking questions about the medications, why they were perscibed knowing my history with addiction, GI issues and other chronic issues that need to be addressed at the root and not masking them causing more inflammation and ultimately putting me at dangerous risks of creating more illnesses, diseases or cancer by ignoring our bodies warning us something is not functioning properly. I have been feeling better after literally feeling crazy coming off the medications that I was told to tapper off way to fast but finally feeling better both mentally and physically which is awesome but now know that there is definitely something more going on that they constantly ignored. I am just spinning since I can't believe I trusted my life with them and they were slowly killing me with medicine. Medicine also had several severe interactions and should have never been perscibed together along with lawsuits for prescribing medicine only FDA approved for anti Seizure but using it for nerve pain(wtf) another one had be taken of market because of it was dangerous and no proof scientifically that it helped, another I received a letter from CVS while withdrawing off Cymbalta since 10s of millions were contaminated with a harmful substance... it's absolute insanity and want to be an advocate for the dangers of these common medications that are increasingly perscibed without discussing how potentially dangerous and even fatal.
Much love to anyone experiencing the same from their persciption medications. Just know there is a light at the end if you are trying get off them. Stay strong and always advocate for yourself. Do not let your doctors make you feel uncomfortable with asking about your health concerns or medications that you are on or possible alternative medicine or treatments. If they don't listen, gaslight you or dismissive about medical history or anything at all find a new one immediately. You could literally be saving your life. God bless ⚕️🌬
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Ego won't let it happen. A doctor becomes a God when he or she gives away their ego, pride or whatsoever. I have seen very impatient doctors who need behavioral therapy lol 😅 Not all doctors are bad, humble ones try to help but still they can't because medical field is not so advanced yet.
@ yes it’s still a very hierarchical field
I have had fibromyalgia and ME for most of my life, and now I have recently lost my beloved husband, Not only has my pain increased, the pain in my heart is very real. I find just living is so painful without him. Surely grief is the worst pain.
Have you heard of LDN?
May God give you strength and heal your sorrow in Jesus mighty name. God bless..🙏💖🕊️
It sure is the most painful. You'll be together again, don't you worry!!!
You should try a brain rewiring program. It will change your life as it has mine. Helped me deal with everything. If your a Christian I would suggest Brea Katrin if not I would look into primal trust. It helps you deal with stress, symptoms and reprogram your brain
@@bluestrings8829If your a Believer & followers of " JESUS" u should know he's the only ANSWER for Everything......!!!!
When Dr Schubiner was explaining the situation and pain of the hypothetical female patient, it sounded like my life story! Started off with a chronic cough as a child, migraines started in my mid teens, back pain by the time I was 16 that worsened over time, combined with agonising hip, leg and neck pain that would reduce me to tears just by walking by my early twenties, by my thirties add in severe acid reflux and top it all off with endometriosis. The only thing my doctor suggested was paracetamol.
I’m now 36 and after over 20 years of chronic debilitating pain, thousands of pounds spent on different treatments in desperation to find relief, I have recently reduced my pain by 80% in 2 months with TRE (trauma release exercises) and meditation (Joe Dispenza meditation) I haven’t had even a touch of acid reflux in weeks and my menstrual cycles are completely normal. I thought I’d never feel normal or go another day in my life without pain, I feel like sitting here and crying with gratitude!
Thank you Dr Chatterjee I love your videos, they’re always so helpful and inspiring. Keep doing what your doing, you’re amazing 😊
That is absolutely incredible. Thanks for sharing your story. I'm going to look into this fellow you mentioned Joe Dispenza
That's amazing Lady T, how wonderful for you!
Keep going, I see no reason you can't be 100% from chronic pain. I think the key is creating a sense of safety in the nervous system, and for that we have to believe that we are safe, that we can be healed. There are brighter days ahead in your future!
@@amandacarter291 dr Joe's teachings saved my life...🙏💚
When I heard that part it made me cry because I could relate to it in so many ways.
What trauma release exercises have helped?
As I woke up with chronic pain in my neck and shoulder looking for solutions TH-cam played this video and it felt like God was answering my prayers. I have RA and Fibro so pain has been a part of me for a very long time. I have always said that it meant that I was alive but being honest it has been a difficult way to live. This video tells me that I can look at my pain in a different way. I've left so many Physicians' offices crying and helpless with just a script for more meds and an overwhelming feeling of not being heard. I see 10 doctors and none of them care why or what the other is doing. i have felt hopeless for far too long but that feeling changed today. Don't know where this journey to overcoming my pain will take me but I'm ready to change my relationship with my brain. Thank you for this revelation.
I feel exactly what you feel…..chronic pain is horrible . I hate when they say it’s not structural pain, but brain is causing pain. Meanwhile, I have so many conditions causing my pain. I’ve been through it all… still no relief. I wish you well!
I felt every Word you Said. Been there. May we Heal. We have a good Heart
I totally feel you. I am in the same exact boat. Praying to Jesus to lead me to the way of healing without just taking meds to numb the pain temporarily 😢
I have the same condition, neck and shoulder pain 😢
go n see psychiatrist n all will be well
This is probably the most profound interview I have ever heard. Every single sentence holds truth and value, with so many revelations spoken beautifully. Thank you to both doctors. To all who have chronic pain I'd say that you're past the largest hurdle if you are here, and send you strength and support in your journey.
Thank you....these Dr's. are so right everything they say are so right on .
Completely agree! ❤
Lets gooo!!!!!
What hurdle? There is nothing wrong with our body. We Re already healed
Compassionate doctors, rare these days ❤
I had cancer and I wasn’t afraid nor did I cry. It was amazing.
Only 10 minutes into this and I’m in tears. This is making so much sense to me. I have chronic pain that is at times debilitating. Can’t wait to watch the rest of this video. Thank you
hope you feel good and get healed soon
please look up Dr Joe Dispenza! You are the placebo. And Wim Hof. You are a powerful being!
Me too and this video is making a whole lot of sense. Take good care of you.💞
OMG... What the Doctor said about a young lady going through a lot of drama and stress in her life and having chronic pain with no real physical injuries 😟. This really hit home for me. I've been through a hell of a lot. Childhood drama, relationship abuse, military ptsd. I feel like my whole body is shutting down at age 47. I eat healthy and exercise, but the pain is becoming dehabilitating. It's everywhere in my back, neck, knees, ankles. Every part that has a joint. 😭and no one listens to me because I look healthy on the outside.
Check out the carnivore diet and what it has done for people with joint pains, I'm not at all sure it's related and if you've already considered it.
At any rate, I hope you get through it
@@Cenot4ph Thank you. I will try that.
Same here😢
@Bee, yes, i so relate... now, in my case, it does show, bc of the exhaustion. I know where my trauma 'lays', the relationship is so hard, and i've found an idea to never talk to her again 'alone', always be sure that at least one person is present, so no harm can be done... it's said easily, by some, to just not botther etc
yoga is the best for ptsd. read the book " the body keeps the score"
I always say ‘get curious and develop relationship with your pain’ it’s there for a reason, it has a message. Trauma is a serious problem that always manifests in the body
Wow
Yes, it is! Thank you for bringing it up. 😊
Yes! Even anxiety does this - it’s a very physical thing 👍
True
Subconscious trauma
I love how Dr. Schubiner responded to Dr. Chatterjee’s story about his own back pain and his father’s passing. What a beautiful way to frame that story. Thank you ❤
My eyes welled up at his compassionate communication for healing
The compassion of these doctors is really inspiring ❤
I have chronic pain from hospital acquired injury.I can honestly say,that throughout my 3 year your eye have received little compassion,nor empathy from the Surgeons involved in my care.40 years of being a patient
Advocate in my nursing career this has traumatised me more than the pain.
This probably the most informative interview I've ever heard. I wish all doctors would listen to this.
This talk is amazing. I've been coping with pain since childhood. So many people in support groups have un-alived themselves waiting for their family, and community to validate the pain. It's a miracle that we have started to publicly talk about it. Thank you!
This doctors calming tone an educated dialogue has given me new hope in dealing w my chronic pain!!
As a chronic pain sufferer (73 yrs old) of migraine/headaches, Fibromyalgia and auto immune gastritis, I only had to listen to 5 minutes of this Podcast to know my answers for miserable daily PAIN lies in what you are about to tell us. I have had pill after pill after pill, CAT scans, And chiropractic help all to no avail. Thank you thank you thank you and say
Smile, my friend. =8-)
Nutrition, meditation and yoga! Please give it a go! God bless you!! ❤️🙏 sending you so much love and a big virtual hug!!! ❤️🙏
You going to get better the fear has to leave the subconscious something ime fighting
Please, check DNRS, Gupta, Dr Joe Dispenza work and testimonials. It's about the brain!
Teri Vaughn what worked for you specifically?
1st Day in Med school::
"Every Patient healed, is a loss of Revenue."
~Unkown
The above is part sarcasm and, sadly, part truth. Author is unknown, but this quote is relatively popular.
OMG!!!
I love this man, Howard Schubiner. It is rare to listen to such a compassionate doctor. Thank you for this interview, Dr. Chatterjee.
Some doctors "got it" many years ago! A GP I had about 40 years ago, told me the occasional severe pains in my chest were tension pains. Understanding this I was able to deal with them better. When I returned to this GP sometime later with severe stomach pains she told me that while I stayed in my difficult situation I would continue to get pains! I took her advice seriously and managed to get out of a very difficult marriage. I can't say I had no more pains but at least I had learned to look at my lifestyle for solutions before anything else.
Thank you for sharing this
I am glad that you had someone in ‘your corner’ as an ally, the world of difference can occur as a result.
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As a massage therapist, I can say I don't treat bulging discs. I treat human beings with bodies that store charge which our repressive social systems prevent people from understanding, discharding, and regulating. I facilitate discharge and regulation of the central nervous system and emotional body. People's bodies just need to be reminded that aware emotional regulation is their native birth right.
Hello @elisabethkorn17
I would like more information on this ?
I’m going thru a lot of chronic neck and back pain headaches tenderness on my head scalp, effect my eyes as well blurry, Do I just look for a massage therapist ?
@@Laguera-1111 first I’m so sorry to hear you are having pain. I can’t make any recommendations for seeking therapy. It can be a journey finding the right therapies and right practitioners. Personally, I am very curious about the subject of health and wellbeing and I have found that reading books and watching videos by experts has helped me and empowered me a lot in my own journey out of chronic pain. Books, TH-cam videos, and podcast interviews with the likes of Peter Levine, Pete Walker, Dick Schwartz, and Gabor Mate are essential for understanding the mind/body/emotion/conditioning connection. One of the coolest methods for healing pain is called PRI and a guy named Neal Hallinan has hundreds of free TH-cam videos on it and I think he refers people to good practitioners of PRI. Also, it is kind of culty, but I love Harvey Jackins who founded Re-evaluation Counseling. It is a type of peer counseling that people can do with each other. Learning it is very low cost, and once you know how to do it, you can join the worldwide community and do it for free and work on discharging the distress built up in your central nervous system over a lifetime. Finding an exceptional massage therapist can be difficult because so few stay in the field longer than 5 years, but I love receiving all forms of bodywork and healing modalities. I have found it easier to find excellent acupuncturists and craniosacral/visceral manipulation therapists, but when I come across a great LMT who really gets me, I am hooked.
I had an amazing Chiropractor/Functional Medicine practitioner that helped me immensely....but he move away about a year
ago...:(
Can you make it more simple so even morons like me understand thx
@elisabethkorn17 where are you located?
One of the best conversations ive heard for quite a long time. I really enjoyed hearing Dr Schubiner & Catterjee talk about the power of our emotions. I struggle myself with chestpains when im going to bed, and they come from out of nowhere, where i suffer from great anxious thoughts of having a sudden heart attack as an healthy 28 year old. I've been to the doctors who can't find anything wrong with my heart, and that i'm healthy. Eventhough i still get the same pains once im trying to relax in bed. This gives me some further understanding in why it could be this way, having a lot in School, troublesome relationship with my mom, recently moved to a new city, trying to find new friends. Sometime it feels overwhelimg, which indeed could cause my body to try and signal to me that i need to relax and ground myself in a way. Crying while im writing this, but it feels amazing in the same time. Thanks for all of your work Rangan, I appriciate you a lot. (Have read all of your books btw)
Sorry for the long post about myself, but i felt it was nescessary to vent abit.
Take good care of yourself out there, selfcare is the best thing you can do in your life.
Best regards from Oscar in Sweden.
It wasn't a long post.. don't be sorry.. Thanks for sharing ur story.. Every experience is helpful to someone.. pls don't hesitate to share.. Wishing you quick recovery and complete healing... God bless.. 🙏🌸🌺🌺🌺🌸🌺
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So…btw-means by the way! Ha I Just learned that🎉🙃
Try this: I had that at some point in my life and what I learned to do was talk to my heart ♥. I would place my hand across the left hand side of my chest where my heart resides and calm it by talking to it. I found that my heart reacted almost immediately and soothed. I cannot recall if I spoke words (love) to it or just thought them. It worked. 🤔
Thank you for sharing your story; it is very helpful. No need to apologize for writing it lengthily. It is even helpful that you took the time to describe your situation clearly. Thanks also to these two brilliant doctors.
What a wonderful man Schubiner is,,,so glad I heard what he had to say. I .leapt out of bed. this morning..(having groaned and moaned for some weeks with neck..shoulder and hip pains)...smiling and saying OUT LOUD...I'm SAFE. Spread some extra raspberry jam on my toast to celebrate !
I had an MRI on my cervical spine for paid and stiffness, and the doctor said to me that I had degeneration and some spondylosis, but my cord was fine however he told me that if my cord got pinged I could end up in a wheelchair my symptoms I’ve got worse ever since. I was an avid gym goer and have hardly been since
I recovered from CFS/ME, chronic pain, interstitial cystitis, rheumatoid arthritis, chronic Lyme, depression, trauma. I started getting sick at 9 years old. I have dedicated my life to help people do the same (I am therapist working with these conditions). I have recovery stories on my channel too from very seriously ill people who are now recovered. There is so much hope. Your body knows how to self heal. There are no guarantees in this life but isn't it worth giving it a go! We can learn to input messages to our mind and body that allow it to feel safety, which moves us into a rest and repair state. We can learn to focus to build what is right with us instead of obsessing about what we think is 'wrong' with us from our fear brain and lots of beliefs Dr's have told us. I was told I would never recover. I was told my conditions were chronic and incurable. The trauma and damage that caused me lasted years from depression and further disability. I am so so so glad I found some learning back in 2015 that gave me hope to try, I had nothing to lose at that point, I was getting ready for voluntary euthanasia. It took me a couple of years, I did not have one of those quick recoveries, and mine was not linear, but I got better. I had a really tough childhood and cptsd, like many, and it had sensitised/primed my stress response system to be in fight/flight.freeze/shut down in response to daily life. So each new additional stressor just added to the stress burden that I could not digest. I am also highly sensitive, which I had no idea how to work with to help it be an asset not overwhelming. What they said about people saying their disease was a gift really is true for me. I would have punched you if you had said that whilst I was sick haha. But illness stopped me in my tracks so I could come to understand that the ways I learned to survive childhood could not continue, or help me thrive. It was like Windows 98 inside, and needed a compassionate update :). What a wise body to give a message the only way that would force me to wake up. I say to my clients that these mind body conditions are a deep emergence that start as an emergency. We prolong the emergency because no one gives us the accurate information to let us know we aren't broken, we did nothing wrong, it is not our fault, and we can grow through what we are going through with time, space and support.
So interesting I really liked your response. I deal with chronic pain I had horrible interest issues cystitis which is much better now not 100%, I have really bad TMJ and trigeminal neuralgia from a surgery that was supposed to cure my problems. That is my worst pain also have fibromyalgia but it doesn’t stop me in my tracks like the nerve pain. I’d be interested in connectingTo see what you do can you please tell me how I can do that. Thank you
Stress is no joke. When I’m very stressed, I have really bad nasal allergies, probably sneeze 500 times a day and have hives all over my body. That’s what I realized when I’m stressed. Thank you for sharing this episode with such a great doctor.
Listen to your body when it whispers or you’ll be forced to hear its screams
Well said.
Beautifully said! Thank you ❤️🙏🏻❤️
nice and poetic but you’ve got no f**king idea what pain is. live a normal f**king life, normal f**king person and then bam suddenly you’re in pain worse than you could ever imagine and told you’ve got incurable cancer. that’s how this works. you don’t have a f**king clue. wish I could make you feel what a ‘body screaming’ is like maybe then you’d have an inch of a clue. make me feel like I’m paying for ‘nOt LIsTeNiNg to My BOdY’ smh
sincerely,
a cancer patient
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I will always carry this statement with me. Thank You
I've lived for fifty years with MEFM (except for 6 years I managed to achieve complete remission from chronic fatigue and near-complete remission of fibromyalgia pain.) How I wish I'd heard about this decades before! For everyone who has ever been told "It's all in your head" with agonizing pain, this is the video to watch. These are two wondrously compassionate and wise doctors who have experienced what they speak of. Wonderful! Gives me SO much hope that I can override a lifetime hypervigilance. (I was born 3 months early because of a violent car accident that totaled our car, which is common with fibro - violent births, or early childhood trauma.) We learn to be hypervigilant from birth, or babyhood - which later with tons of inescapable stress can turn into fibromyalgia or other chronic illnesses. 13 car accidents added to that, as did childhood bullying (though thankfully I was taught to fight back.) I have SO much more hope - I can and will overcome this again! And now I have wondrous new pieces of the puzzle to help me heal.
I sure hope you gave up driving 🤯
@@johnmitchell8925 Funny man! Actually, I'm a great driver and the accidents were all but one someone else's fault entirely. I sued 3 of 'em, and got enough money to go to Europe. (Interestingly, after I did a rebirthing EMDR session about my first accident that thrust me into the world 3 months early, I never had another accident. Trauma counselor Peter Levine talks about that - how somehow we go through the major trauma in our lives over and over - even when it's outside our control like someone hitting me from behind or running a red light straight into my car door!)
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What Howard said from min 15:15 - 15:48 hit my heart and made me realize what my life long experience with pain is rooted in...his validation brought tears to my eyes. ❤️
Very powerful what he said
He's shows empathy which is sorely needed.
He really is wonderful isn't he/!!!
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What a excellent interview with so much helpful information.
THIS CONVERSATION CHANGED MY LIFE FOREVER.
an immense amount of thanks and gratitude to these two beautiful souls here.
Best interview ever ❤sometimes you get tired of trying to explain this moving pain to doctors because their facial expressions say it all. And It cuts deeper than those who say "it's in your head."
So happy to see more doctors treating patients not only with body approach but including the mind, body and soul.
This interview reminds me the work of Dr John Sarno.
Thank you ✨🙏🏼✨
And Dr Joe Dispenza! Just awesome, great to see it coming to the mainstream finally.
And Gabor Mate’
@@patriciacarlyle9456 Gabot Mate is awesome.
Are you cured
Definitely the BEST video on TH-cam about chronic pain
True 👍
Thank you Doctor for explaining this and not just trying to medicate. Once I learned about Narcissistic Abuse and the Toxic People in my life who displayed such traits, I instantly started to heal from Emotional Trauma. My Mind Cleared, My Heart Opened and My Immune System rose in Levels I couldn’t understand. It’s because of Videos like this My Whole Life has Changed. #WhatPain #IFeelAmazing
Thank you for sharing your story @sharonewilson9743. Bless this healing!
You learned they exist (my parents) but how do you heal? Specially if you live and work with them?
@@MoJo65879 That's amazing. What was the most transformative moment in your ayahuasca ceremony? And good for you for leaving and divorcing an abusiver! That's so good to hear.
I am 47 and because of this video I now know I will be healed. My mother left me with my younger brother and sister to raise when I was 17… I was an honor student who became a parent of 2 teenagers while getting pregnant. Suffering from mental and physical abuse from my Mother and all my romantic relationships. I suffer from anxiety, IBS,depression chronic back pain, pelvic pain, and now numbness in my right arm. I have taken MRI’s and do many other tests…no diagnosis…this is the first time I really feel like I have hope!!! I thank God for all of the hard work you all have done for us who suffer from pain every day. Thank you! I’m basking in the light at the end of the tunnel!!!!! 🫶🏾💯😇🎉
Dr Schubiner's work is a game changer. There is a documentary on his work called "This might Hurt" that took years to complete so it's from a few years ago. It shows his work with actual chronic pain patients using emotional awareness and expression therapy. (EAET) It's powerful.
Thanks for your coment?@Lindaelarde2692.
Thank you, Linda.
Thanks for naming the film. Xx
Thank you! I'll look it up.
Great! I had a daily migraine for 18 months and have been trough all the medical tests cited at the beginning. All gone after 2 months of talking in psychotherapy. Never had any headache more than once a year after that.
As a Rapid Transformational Therapy practitioner, using hypnotherapy, I can absolutely vouch that chronic pain can be removed when clients understand how their mind works. I have facilitated the healing of chronic physical symptoms, experienced for over 12 years, with clients having tried everything else, one young man being so depressed he was suicidal, in one 3 hour session. I can only agree, that the majority of presenting issues, whether physical or psychological, are caused by emotionally traumatic events. With RTT we're able to quickly get to the root cause via the client's subconscious mind and help them to change the story they've been telling themselves. They're able to let go and the pain disappears. Understanding and reframing, then coding in a new paradigm are absolutely the key.
Great interview. Thank you so much.
There are some excellent studies done by the Heart Maths Institute, which supports all you've talked about..
Wow! This is the biggest light bulb moment I have had in the last two years of being knocked for six by chronic fatigue and burning mouth syndrome. It has connected so many dots. Thank you so much.
Thank you to you both for your empathy and compassion, it is very refreshing to hear two Drs, who reinforce the human aspect of pain. Chronic pain patient (and nurse) after multiple neck and thoracic fractures and fusions, who has seen many specialists over the years, I have walked away feeling so unheard and dismissed due to the attitude of these people, who can at times, re traumatise by forgetting the human aspect of those they are treating. ❤ thank you for your humanity
@KiwikimNZ have you seen the episode with Dr. Joe Dispenza? It would complement this one. Talking about meditation practices for healing...anything. But he's a chiropractor who healed himself of a devastating spinal injury, avoiding major surgery.
@@lisbethbird8268oh wow. Thank you ❤
Hi! Please do look up that episode. I saw your reply right away because I just finish a live streamed healing meditation and decided to check notifications. I relieve d pain you can too.💚💚@@KiwikimNZ
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This comment makes me emotional. I have also been unheard and they retraumatize making things worse. I also appreciate their compassion and empathy, I don't hear much of this today.
Wow! At 18 min. in he completely described my wholee miserable life, I guess i'm not alone, the world's full of very broken people!
It is. I think at least a quarter of people have depression, if not more. It's no wonder - the insane world we live in.
You are not broken. It feels so. Feel broken to. But i know i have to change this point of view
Hello, I loved this talk. My daughter is 13 and diagnosed with Ehlers Danlos syndrome at age 7. She's had chronic pain her whole life, but never taken pain meds. She refuses but uses distraction techniques to help deal with the pain instead. I'm a nurse and 100% believe in mindfulness based stress reduction to reduce chronic pain. I've been studying it for over 5 years now. This really hit home when he talked about people with diagnoses that they have been told are incurable. My daughter has just learned to deal with the everyday pain, but retaining the brain to believe we can be pain free by assessing further instead of just feeling like there's no hope was eye opening. I looked for the app for healthcare providers, but probably not available in the United States? Thank you for this! I'll look for the book.
I missed his name is it Dr Chattergee his contact ?to get his books etc can u put on your website ? This is an excellent interview. Thanks 👍
You should read of Milton Erickson. He was confined to his bed as a child and was self taught on hypnosis. Became a renowned therapist who used hypnotherapy.
I have hEDS and felt much less alone see your comment about your daughter. I am also a nurse!
I couldn’t walk 5 yrs ago and all I heard was hip replacement hip replacement etc…. I knew it wasn’t that. Now I’m almost completely healed- about ever 6 months I get like a leap forward in which my body sorts itself out. Things loosen, cracks and creaks, it’s amazing
I’m glad you didn’t do the hip replacement dangerous
I never comment but have to say, thank you Dr Chatterjee. Hopefully you know how much what you do helps people like me who couldn't see a way forward. I've only just understood at 55, how narcissistic my parents were, because I just disassociate mentally, but in adult life that doesn't help! Thank you again for what you do! x
I crossed paths with a Paranoid Narcissistic Psychopath six years ago. Whenever there’s a pathologically disordered person in your life, you are harmed. They alter the trajectory of your life, and it’s only been recently that I revisited this site, thinking at 70, I would never be involved in a relationship with the opposite sex, and I still don’t think so. So I didn’t pay much attention to it. But since revisiting the site, more research has been done on the Cognitive Dissonance experienced by the victims/targets of these toxic people. And the character traits of the victims/targets, which are highly sought after by the toxic.
Not sure how this insight applies to someone whose parents were toxic, as most children become like their parents and wouldn’t likely have learned these same character traits. And there’s a difference between someone who is Narcissistic and someone who meets the criteria of having Narcisisstic Personality Disorder.
But only you know your situation, so I highly recommend first watching the three videos found on the homepage, where what I’ve said can be found, then peruse the site. You may find it very helpful.
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It was one of the most emotional interviews . Both being so genuine and clear in their explanation. Felt so touched by candid experiences of Dr Chatterjee and Dr Howard. Thank you for giving us the opportunity to see your podcasts regularly. 🙏
I got this message of empathy from a gentle, quiet neurosurgeon that mirrors what these doctors are saying. My doctor was the first person that asked me what was causing so much stress in my life.
Am canceling and destroying every evil diseases, in our systems with d Devine and precious BLOOD of JESUSCHRIST Amen
Amen!!❤
Amen 🕊🌬
Amen
Amen.
Amen
Dr John Sarno does not get the credit he deserves. So much of what is now being understood is what he observed and understood soooo long ago.
You are 100% correct!
1000% correct, he really was a visionary. I injured my back around 2000 and spent 5 years in absolute agony until I stumbled across his work.
Once you've read his work, you quickly understand that almost all chronic pain is created by the brain.
Totally agree! Dr Sarno turned my life around.
I have suffered with bad pain for years ive had both knees replaced now my lumber spine is so bad surgery is too risky.
I was stressed and in constant pain , i was at an all time low and dr just prescribed painkillers. I started to study this subject and now 3 months later i ditched all meds started walking eating good food and dealing with my pain mentally ,.it works my pain is at least 80 pcent less my head is clear and i am enjoying life ... these guys are great ... make peace with your body .. good luck
Great job Andrew. You ditched the Rx "medicines" and began making perfect medicines within. Nothing more glorious than the human body run properly by human consciousness.
Very interesting. At present I'm in a lot of pain with sciatica. After listening to this , I think my chilhood traumas and subsequent poor life decisions are causing my back and sciatica/ stenosis. I'm just so grateful , thank you.
Hi same as sciatica fot 10 long yrs ..check out john sarno .absolutely brilliant..he's on TH-cam ❤ you'll be better in no time
Same. But now what? What happens now? What is the next step?
I also have sciatica and after listening to this I find comfort. I do not know the answer but I am going to try and be more confident and fear the pain less. I am consumed with worry all the time, so trying anything new is what is needed. I do hope we may benefit in the long run.
Watching This made me emotional several times, I am a mess and have been in pain for 7 years. Had all kinds of blood tests done by a couple doctors and get nowhere but them trying to put me on anti depressant meds that i don't want. I have had a fair amount of mental trauma in my life. I wish I could find a doctor like you in Utah 😥
There are doctors of osteopathy in Utah, my friend. It's a proper doctor who practices holistic treatment. Have look & good luck my friend.
Start with dr.joe silva meditation and dr.joe dispenza
To add to the Story above, I was diagnosed with lungs affected by the pigeons that invaded my balcony in huge no’s. which I could only shake off by building a strong metal frame.
Sujatha’s Strory
I would recommend Pain Free You channel on youtube and the book The way out
This young doctor is so genuine with such humanity!He listens ,is empathetic and a good human being
Thank you doctors for this beautiful interview. I am so very grateful. My western trained family physician ordered MRI and X-rays for my pelvic pains and told me exactly what you said - that pain was from the discs and I needed surgery. I decided to wait and finally found a French doctor who was trained in integrative medicine. He adjusted my spine for 2 years on and off and I went to see him one day for same pelvic pain. He studied my chart and said you have been here for 3 Octobers in a row! I lived in Hong Kong and October was the season when climate suddenly goes from very humid to very dry. The cure was to hydrate!! I dodged a bullet for useless and potentially dangerous surgery in my mid thirties!
Im my frail 83 year old moms carer, i have chronic debilitating knee pain, this podcast was incredible!! Im going to listen to it and absorb this information and hopefully help myself lessen this pain by acknowledging the emotional triggers. Thank you so much for this interview
Epson salt baths and Palo Santo incense 🧘♂️🙏
Byron Katie’s teaching are so helpful… your thoughts can make pain way worse
Your body is saying that caring for your mom is a toll for yourself and that is why your body is sending out that signal. But, you have no choice, right?
You can change that mindset by developing a new mindset. I am grateful that I have an amazing able body to look after my mum. Be appreciative of each opportunity to add value to my mum's life. See looking after my mum a blessing that a whole host of children do not have. You do have a choice to start seeing life as opportunity to make a different in someone's life.
Check out Barbara oniel natural healing videos please. Type in her name and ginger poultice. Really works. Please try it
As someone with Long Covid now me / CFS I am finding huge healing in healing trauma and unlocking the mind and emotions
Thank you both for this conversation and shining some light on “illness n Dis-ease”!! 😊 We have to strive to get to the ❤ of the “matters”… Psycho-somatic the mind body n even spirit connection is real… my granny was a whol-istic healer who taught me this years ago… they’re All Connected; if one is off, the others are too… striking a balance between the 3 is essential… Know Thyself, Understand Thyself n Heal Thyself n be Kind to Thyself and begin to Forgive Thyself n Others ❤and never be afraid to ask for Help!… it’s an Inside Job! 🦋
Ancient wisdom your granny was teaching you!
Thanks for sharing
OMG being someone who has suffered of endometriosis chronic pain and had practice this. I can’t thank you enough for sharing this. I teach females with endo and people with chronic pain to reframe their pain and I have struggle to feel support from the medical system. Seems like all doctors just want to give pills and not spending the time educating. This message and the work you guys are doing is so important 👏🏽 thank you so much 🙏🏽
Yes and some drs give medicine and don't really ask questions like what do you eat and what's you're lifestyle etc some do and some don't ask at all. Some don't ask how much do you sleep and some don't suggest dietary changes and vitamins that may help.
So when I have a severe migraine with aura…or joint problems because of an autoimmune disorder.
I should just think of it differently
That’s it?
@@robertalust5466 it’s not about thinking differently. It’s about trying to find the root cause or triggers of your migraine. Are you tracking your sugar content? For example. Have you done an internal review of food / migraine relationship? For example; One of my clients gets a migraine if she consumes chocolate or wine. So those are things that she now completely removed from her diet. It doesn’t mean that she never gets a migraine now (because migraines can be set off hormonally too), but she has reduced the set of migraines by a significant amount. Endometriosis is also an immune disorder, I improved mine (and I said improved because there is no cure for endo) many of my symptoms by following and maintaining a anti-inflammatory diet.
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I don’t eat any sugar and I’ve done several elimination diets..and I have found several foods I need to avoid and I do just that
I don’t drink…don’t have any caffeine, sugar , or wheat..chocolate is one of mine too
I had a hysterectomy a year ago…(I was 29)
And I kept my ovaries…but because of this my hormones are monitored very regularly and nothing has come up..
But I still get major migraines…and frequently that require medication..
Meds, Botox, and PT for dizziness are helpful…but I still get them too often..
Real concrete solutions…not just “oh chances your mindset”
The fact of the matter is my career..and life in general is not migraine or sensory friendly so I have to adapt…
But that is practical and has nothing to do with positive thinking..
Omg i suffer from endometriosis and adenomyosis. This is the comment i have been looking for
It is so refreshing to see medical practitioners actually showing empathy and concern for their patients. Trying to help people who are not believed.
I found the notion of pain being an emotion incredibly interesting. The cycle and the viciousness and negative spiralling of it. It's like an eye-opener. I'm an EFT and EMDR practitioner and I'm convinced that this notion, this approach to chronic pain will influence my work.
Thank you so much! Bie
I am so pleased that what is being said here, is finally being recognised. How daughters often carry the trauma and pain created by their father's behaviour, for example. Fibromyalgia for example.
This hits home for myself with a previous friend over 20 years and I always felt her family role was as a scapegoat and caretaker for her family. This is not judging her fibromyalgia, as I had had two medical life threatening issues and wanted to be a support for her. And yes, as females ( this is not a competition theory, or a blame one) it is just a true fact, also along with the children who are under adults care, are also drawn into these harmful and corrosive situation. We all need to look after ourselves first so we can then help others.
I struggled for 18 years and now at 26 I finally have my diagnosis! I too struggle every day but I do my best to live my life as if I have nothing, just with more breaks than before 😅. We got this!
One of the best doctors I’ve seen in my life. Changed my life forever. 🙏🏻
Pelvic pain, interstitial cystitis, pudendal neuralgia, etc. They all started with a physical trigger but the mind body issues are what made it chronic. I’ve been through everything with doctors. Mind-body work put me into about 80% remission. Dealing with trauma wasn’t really what did it for me, for me it was more exposure therapy. Daily exercise and exposing my body to things that would normally hurt but doing it in a slow safe manner. Also, teaching my brain not to catastrophize pain or fear that it is something serious. It’s very difficult to notice pain and not be stressed or upset by it, it’s sort of a skill to just acknowledge its existence and move on with your life. You’re not necessarily ignoring it, you’re accepting it. Eventually, the brain will start to rewire and your nerves will follow.
Ime exercising as able two years though still got the pain fybro or myofacial pain just labels always say diffarant great news how long did it take had on 25 years from fall alwys been perfectionist IC in certain areas hypomobility?
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@@sti9767 have you got same symptoms
Thank you Nicole. I for the time being are reading Schubingers book ‘Unlearn your pain’ and will try to follow his method - both dealing with trauma and physical training and then we shall see what happens 😊
@@Truerealism747 25 years that’s awful- what a waste of one’s life. I am so sorry for you. I am not sure that we have gotten the same symptoms. I have this neuropathy pain - thingling burning on my skin all over the lower part of my body. My skin is hyper sensitive and having clothes and shoes on is a problem - and psychical exercise makes it worse. In addition I’ve got very tense muscles - in the pelvic area all the time but also now and then in my abdomen, diafragma, all the beast area. This started to get worse 3 to 4 months ago. I get medicine- it helps to some extent…
After learning Reiki 25 years ago, I learned negative emotions and trauma can cause illness and disease.
“The most important thing I do for my patients is to listen to them and to show them empathy.” Minute 1:16:08-10.❤
That is *exactly* the same as myself regarding my role as a teacher.
It is beautiful to hear that mirroring the concerns of a patient can help. It certainly helps students. How can physicians change medical schools to recognize trauma and to make trauma- informed medicine the norm?
Only 15% success in elective chronic pain back surgery *compared to other cohorts* (ie less traumatized people) for those with 3+ ACEs is profound.
Trauma comes from narcissists and psychopaths who abuse others. The medical system is run by those same people and it attracts narcissists and psychopaths as a profession as they get money, prestige and power over people. Doctors go through years of bullying and indoctrination until they become consultants. In the process they many get recruited into satanic secret societies such as freemasonry where they practice jewish kaballah and undergo humiliation rituals. That’s how they advance their careers and in turn they promote anti white and anti christian agendas in the hospital
Tbis is absolutely brilliant so true chronic pain is not understood by the medical profession what we need is empathy and understanding
It’s so powerful to shift the perspective from just treating a symptom to being more aware of your life circumstances. Thank you so much for sharing this
This has helped so much! Have had so many health issues, dysfunctional childhood, narcissistic relationships, caregiver to my mom, i see now why i have autoimmune disease, nerve pain, etc..
Im still working on healing from past but dealing with every day stress is hard
May everyone learn from this video and find personal healing emotionally and physically ❤
Putting together my kids basketball hoop, the base full of water fell on my left foot, my ankle got swollen and my skin was sensitive but it didn’t hurt; everyone keep asking if it hurts, it looks bad it must hurts, I’ll say it doesn’t hurt and my family think I’m laying. It really doesn’t hurt, I refuse to keep repeating because then it really will hurt. I can tolerate pain very well and don’t complain about it, most of the time I ignore it and it goes away. I don’t allow my mind to control me! 😊
Rengan you are so blessed to have this awakening and to bring this medical knowledge to the world. It have taught meditation for the last decade and have experienced an alleviation of chronic pain IBS and depression but have not been able to explain it to my students medically. Keep doing the good work!❤ each episode is brilliant
Howard , Sarno,Dan these are the guys who pulled me out of the jaws of the chronic pain and they are the reason I am living my life normally again.
I have started my own channel Mission Pain free (TMS WARRIORS) to help my Indian fellows as in India there is almost 0 percent awareness of the mind body connection or TMS.
This is spot on. I suffered for over three years with chronic lower back pain and read a book on this same solution and my back pain was gone by the time I finished the book that same day. I am living proof this is truth!
Wow. This interview has given me more insight into my past history with chronic pain than anything I have ever seen or heard in 40 years. Thank you, thank you, thank you!
Slowly, I came to some of these realizations on my own. The first step forward was refusing to label myself as disabled, stopped seeing doctors and throwing out all my meds. They were not helping, they actually made things worse. Of course this meant losing my job and having to become self-employed. Unfortunately, our "health care" system is more focused on problems and labels than finding solutions.
Everything you have said rings true, I wish I had heard this years ago. There is value in feeling understood. 😊
And the paperwork to save their butt
I was told I needed a hip replacement 18 months ago.I cancelled the operation 2 weeks before it was due as my gut instinct told me don't do it.
I changed my diet dramatically, stopped physio, walk daily, started Qi gong and think I am healthy. I feel great there is sometimes a little tension in the groin when I sit too long but I'm sure that will pass also :)
The brain is powerful beyond anything we know and our bodies have an extraordinary ability to heal! Keep going. Good luck. Best wishes, K
Hi Cinders try using seamoss or things with collagen to rebuild the collagen in your bones , this should help a lot , use Alkaline o, boiled or filtered water ,no tap water , exercise & long walks , these should really help your bones
@@MEhealthcoach Thank you very much
My dad is in great pain due to degenerative disease in his back. I am wondering if you can tell me what type of diet are you on to improve your health??
Amazing so happy for you
Lord Jesus, I know you love all your people and hurt when they hurt. I pray for healing and through that healing you reveal yourself to them. In Jesus might name, Amen.
Amen 🙏🏾❤
Amen
AMEEEN! IN JESUS ALMIGHTY NAME 🙏
GOD BLESS YOU PRECIOUS 🙏
Amen 🙏
One of the best podcasts ever. I keep coming back to listening to this. Dr. Rangan is so humble and helpful. Dr. Schubiner is remarkably observant and soft spoken.
I’ve had fibromyalgia my whole life. Worst thing I’ve experienced was having two undiagnosed heart attacks, due to being a fibromyalgia patient. Sometimes it’s not neurological, and it puts people like me in danger. But, listening to this talk is somewhat helpful as I now understand “ listen to your body” it’s telling you something. Doctors have to diagnose and work under government protocols and it restricts them from thinking outside the box. I take a whole lot of various medication which is necessary and somewhat life saving for my heart . Any medications and pain killers absolutely do not work on my chronic fibromyalgia pain, psychological self talk is the only thing I can do manage fibromyalgia pain. The human body is complex, medication and treatment has been boxed into a one size fits all. Doctors are over worked and regulated by so many rules, where they can’t do things by law.
@Angela Thornbury avoid Gluten of your life - make sure about your Vitamin D , glycinate magnesium, level ( it’s the GPS to bring calcium to your body, if u are lack of it calcium goes to your bones
Got diagnosed with FM many years ago. Praying to get off the meds the family physician gives me. Just want to live a normal life. No family support. Anxiety is another factor because of pain. Eating gluten free, take vitamins and algae calcium for my bones. This Physician is amazing! Wish l could visit him. Most likely to far away.🥲🙏
I had Chronic Fatigue Syndrom for 4 years. I got completely dissabled. And had pain also. I am fully recivered now with the help of a brain retraining program,based on Neuroplastisity called ANS Rewire. Full recovery is possible but is a lot of work. The hardest thing I did in my life.
If you want to watch and listen to my recovery story, search on youtube CFS Unravel episod 10.
Good luck to you all.
@@SacredOwl wow , that sounds interesting tell me more , you might be onto something. I know I’m worse during a full moon , that’s another story
Western Medicine leaves a lot to be desired. For the most part, all they do is prescribe meds or do surgery to remove what’s w with you. And if you’re not sick, they make no money, so they have little to no desire to actually cure you. My daughter have been receiving various treatments from a local Alternative Med office, and so far our insurance companies are paying all beyond our standard co-pays. Perhaps you could find such a place like ours. Here’s ours. Allow the homepage to run through some of the services they offer, then check out their full menu to see more.
I’m not sure, but I don’t recall the treatment I received is even on the Menu, but it sure did provide me with relief, if only temporary. I say temporary because I am a Polio survivor, and the most damage it did to my body was in my lower spine…the dorsal lumbar. I’ve dealt with chronic pain since the age of sixteen, and I’m now 70. I’ve heard enough about back surgeries gone bad, so it’s never been an option for me. I found Yoga to be very helpful, as it stretches and strengthens my muscles to support my spine.
The treatment I received is called Soft Tissue Mobilization. It’s a type of Physical Therapy. The muscles around the site of pain or injury build up Lactic Acid, which stiffens the muscle tissue. This type of PT breaks up that Lactic Acid, thus loosening up the muscles. I felt great for several days, and if it weren’t Polio, I’d consider it a healing. I’ve since been diagnosed with Osteoarthritis, Degenerative Disc Disease, and Ankylosing Spondylitis (curvature of the spine). These doctors never got the memo that I was a Polio survivor because it wasn’t listed on my chart at my doctor’s office. Which is crazy.
Anyway, here’s my local Alternative Med office. Perhaps you could find a similar office in your area. www.bransonhealingarts.com
I do have 9 herniated or corrupted discs 'but; I reprogrammed my brain 3 years ago. I realised my pain matched dramas and crisis when I was emotionally overloaded. I gave my self a good talking too and told myself to stop allowing negative situations to rule me. After 27 years of chronic pain...it stopped! and I have been relatively pain free of these issues ever since. It doesn't mean I can stop taking due physical care, but I don't have to suffer unnecessarily. I am absolutely loving this discussion and its profound information. I now have a way of explaining to friends and family the ;miracle; of my status now compared to the past. Thank you.
Thank you for your comments.
It really resonated with me when he said "Don't do something just to do something cuz it can make it worse". There was a time when I went on a hospital spree after I got diagnosed with this medical condition. And every time I got something done to my body, I had several brand new symptoms come up, which added insult to my injury. If only those doctors took me as a unique individual rather than as one of the statistics, I wouldn't have had hard time like that. Now that I've learned my lesson, I can cope better with my condition.
My story: Fibromyalgia, very low vitamin D. Raised vitamin D blood levels, no more pain. Diagnosed with trigeminal neuralgia. Doctor prescribed pregabalin. I refused to take it. Went back to the dentist (3rd time) and insisted that it had originally started with ‘that tooth’. X-rayed it from a different angle and found a hairline crack. Once that was sorted, no more pain. Back pain for years. Went for Body Stress Relief, no pain now for 10 years. Headaches, related to caffeine withdrawal. Limited coffee to 3 cups a day. No more headaches
For body stress relief were you using massage or any other therapy ?
@@rajeevsinghal6439 no other therapy
Congratulations! Hoping my pain will stop soon too.
I was hit by a speeding cyclist on a pedestrian crossing he did not stop. Horrific pain unable to walk for one year refused to go to hospital because I knew I would be given stong drugs etc.
Friends bought me Rum for the pain at my request praying to die from pain & Trauma. Slowly with sheer determination I started walking took 6mths to regain strength in arms and legs.
Determination is so important in healing.
And will power trust in yourself to survive and have Faith.
Rum😂 serous?
Yes, and taking small steps, consistently. I have improved my pain by about 50% by consistently doing some routines every day for over a year.
Only 50% in a year? Come on my man(only joking) but if you really take in this wonderful conversation, you can unlock another 40% instantly.
I had horrendous chronic back and leg pain for 18 months...until I finally realised that fear was my pain. I stopped being afraid and the pain went away, just like that, magic.
I’m so ever grateful for the privilege of listening to this conversation - so moving so insightful so empowering so compassionate - we are indeed emotional human beings - thank you gentlemen xx
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I am speechless and smiling throughout the whole interview. I could write about all the boxes I tick relating to why I’ve wanted to be out of my body all my life, but I prefer to focus on the gift of these wonderful men. Thank you from the depth of my soul. 🙏🏿🙏🏽🙏❤️
It's so refreshing and humanizing to watch doctors speak about their frustrations with the medical system. I had a doctor tell me my disks were degenerating, but he didn't ask me what I was sleeping on, it turns out I needed a new bed and now I don't suffer from back pain. The powerful pain killers that doc prescribed me are still sitting in my safe. I had a doctor talk to me for 5 minutes and diagnose me with depression but my mom had passed away and just hadn't had the time to greive yet. I recently got the diagnosis of pre hypertension but wasn't asked a single time if I was open to yoga or breathing exercises. I just want the healthcare system to redefine treatment and healing.
thanks for sharing. Such a classic tale and very much like i've heard for the past forty years here in the U.S. This may sound dumb, but re prehypertension, of course moving /walking or other exercise, enough , is crucial. But oddly enough, eating garlic, perhaps particularly a bit of raw garlic, does have a lot of data backing it up, re BPressure. It has helped me overall hugely since my mid thirties onward.
I was always told I'd be on pain medicine for the rest of my life.. but pain medicine makes depression happen etc and it's a downward spiral of frustration to be heard by someone. Thank you for this video!
The back story resonates with me greatly, I had a similar injury and ended up with chronic, daily back pain that became so severe I often thought about suicide, it went on for over 2 years. I then, thankfully stumbled across research similar to this and started to dive in to the subject. I then started moving my back more and gradually started to over ride the routine my nervous system had taken on. I'm now completely pain free again, it took almost a full 12 months to reset and recallibrate the central nervous system but it worked, I will never forget my journey for a s long as I live.
Thank you for your comment. I am listening. I know that pain when you don't want to live anymore or be around anyone ( me). I have pain for 33 years. I will be 59. It was the worst in 1999and 2000. If my Mom wasn't alive then , I might not be here. I don't know if I could have done it. I was sick of not being able to do Anything. Reflexology, acupressure , chiropractor and a couple other things saved me. My then new chiropractor saved me from an ankle replacement. ✌️
What did u do exactly? Im 3 year chronic pain in my hand.. tried pt, ignoring it, working thru pain etc. Resting.. nothing worked
@@ImperviouslyGaming I completely changed my mindset, I realised I was worrying about it and subconsciously protecting the way I moved which was, in turn, sending messages to my brain to say I was damaged so therefore my brain sent MORE pain to make me protect the area more.
It's complicated but pain is NOT an accurate measure of tissue health, pain is a protector which is why you can have pain without injury.
If you look up Lorimer Mosely and Peter O'Sullivan on here, they're pain specialists and go into great details of what really goes on when we're in pain
May I ask what your injury was? I have a friend who has severe chronic back pain from a car accident, causing damage in their spine and hip (they might have to get spinal fusion in the future and they're also suicidal), and just want to get a better understanding of how much this reframing method could help those whose chronic pain's caused by severe structural issues.
May I ask what your injury was? I have a friend who has severe chronic back pain from a car accident, causing damage in their spine and hip (they might have to get spinal fusion in the future and they're also suicidal), and just want to get a better understanding of how much this reframing method could help those whose chronic pain's caused by severe structural issues.
So beautiful this profound knowledge is. I was in more pain in my teens twenties and thirties than I am in my forties, thank the gods and goddesses. After decades of frustration I found yoga then lost it then found it again around covid and am now a regular committed practitioner. But it all started with my suspecting that my mind was involved. Therapy tells my mind I’m safe and yoga tells my body I’m safe. Yoga keeps resetting your pain circuits; it resets your entire mind. It’s taken me so long to observe my body and get over the stupid mind body dualism of modern medicine. The pain of stretching my muscles in yoga is infinitely better than the chronic pain I had earlier. This is good pain! And it makes me strong and experience safety after a lifetime of fear and trauma.
Thanks Rangan! I was either tearing up or smiling throughout the talk. Not that my pains have miraculously disappeared, but I now have new perspective…
Howard , Sarno,Dan these are the guys who pulled me out of the jaws of the chronic pain and they are the reason I am living my life normally again.
I have started my own channel Mission Pain free (TMS WARRIORS) to help my Indian fellows as in India there is almost 0 percent awareness of the mind body connection or TMS.
Hey samir how r u now
Chronic pain has become a part of my daily life in just the past 6 months. I have always had strenuous physical jobs but the sudden increase and lack of relief from pain hasn’t made sense. Stress and emotional pain isn’t something I would have ever thought about until listening to this discussion. I will put my emotionally and mental health at the forefront of my daily life and hope my chronic pain lessens.
What you have shared here is exactly what I have been searching for. It bought me to tears to finally feel heard. As someone who suffers from intermittent unbearable pain as a result of life events resulting in fibromyalgia. Gives me more confidence to continue to do the work I need to do to free myself of it. With heartfelt gratitude. Thank you Dr. Rangan Chatterjee and Dr. Howard Schubiner.
I don’t know about you but I have FM/ME severe for 19 years. Teams due to PTSD & stress also genetics. I have tried everything to cure myself. Conclusion is that I have to live alone in a deserted island. ! One day I might just do that
I hear you. I had 4 operations on my ankle being used as a guinea pig. I have neauropathy ,reflex sympathetic dystrophy , osteoarthritis in right ankle ,left knee and back has it too with moderate degenerative disc disease ( 2005 it was moderate) . I have been in pain longer than I am alive. It does help to listen to hypnosis to sleep and for pain. Reflexology , acupressure , chiropractor and acupuncture helped , but I can not afford that . I hope you are doing well
@@donnalawrence9054 wow, sorry for your pain!. I am curious of your age?
@@18_rabbit 59. Broke my ankle at 25 and had cast put on my leg for 10 days . ' Walked ' on a broken ankle for awhile, cast for 6 weeks, operation, - said walk when you can 4-6weeks later, hobbled out with crutches in hand, back to work ( no PT). , Rebroke just 1/2 hour before shift was over , operation. ,. pt . Cybex test that I should not have had to show the strength of ankle ( talus bone) at least for a year that the doctor ordered .. you get the picture. Way too many cortisone shots. 23 in 3years( ?) I wanted to keep working. Said I will deal with it when I am older. I am. 😂 🤕 . Have a great week
Dear Rangan and Howard !! Profound Thank you both !! Doors and windows opened within through Listening To The Deeper Truths you spoke of !!!!....Blessings and Much Love !!!!
I've been suffering everytime I have a massive flare up I will come back to this podcast you've gave me the strength from being bedbound for 6months thankyou I'm goi my to beat this I keep having back spasms and can't walk can't work nothing but I'm going to beat this I refuse to stay like this I've literally had multiple scans nothing but I'm literally can't even go to the toilet or shower alone I need to beat this thankyou for the podcast
I have been told that the pain in my back, neck and throughout my spine was "in my head" until I found a good orthopedic surgeon to get to the bottom of it,, he was PISSED when I told him what I'd been through.. I had 2 bulging discs, one rupture in my neck! Surgery was unavoidable but didn't take the pain away but did help! Pain isn't always in your "head" !!!
You’re missing the point slightly. The pain is very real but often the CAUSE is in the mind.
No sycosomatic pain is tension altered physical changes in the body caused by the mind this is why Dr Sarno coined TMS because the confusion hysteria is in brain nucleai only
Wonderful interview....Peoples fear and pain levels have probably increased in the last 3 years partly as a result of being unable to visit even a mediocre gp . The fear and perhaps also anger and frustration has been immense . The chance would be a fine thing to find a gp who embraced the above approach. Many are in desperate health ,social and financial situations and which they have little control over due to the global situation of gradual loss of freedoms . I really believe that a change is required so that people feel supported and cared about and sadly I am not seeing it . I know someone who is isolated , in alot of pain ,and has no medical or social support , I am not sure how to help her anymore as most doors are shut .I would welcome hearing from any medical practioners in our area who embrace the above teachings , It would help very much for me to help the person I care for . Many thanks from West Kent England .
I suffered from a work injury 7 years ago. I have been on disability over 6 years. I have Chronic migraines & Myofacial Pain Disorder, which is a Chronic Pain Disorder for going on 7 years. My Physiatrist does trigger point injections and it’s helpful. I also lost my smell and taste 6 years ago, and I know it’s in my brain that my brain is not processing smells and tastes. It’s not my nose or tongue. It’s my brain not processing (wish I could understand why) I have recently gone back to work, but a different role. Due to my injury & pain. I have worked very hard at physical healing, emotional healing, working through therapy for almost 3 years. Over coming debilitating depression, learning triggers and how to live a slow life to live a better quality of life. I’m blessed to have done a program with workers compensation for chronic pain and brain injury. I learned so much about the brain and Nero plasticity and chronic pain disorders. I do have permanent restrictions due to my injury. With lifting, pulling and pushing etc and I have some muscle deterioration. So are you saying I can completely heal my injury snd rebuild my strength back completely ?? Because I have done multiple physical therapy programs treatments. I still do my stretches and exercises given from the Physio daily.??? So then what am I doing wrong?
Great great podcast! ❤
Did you ever try a pain patch? Just bought a Salonpas patch at Shoppers Drug Mart.
They are made in the U.S.
What an offering!! THANK yOU!
Please publish a bibliography of the books and articles mentioned in this conversation! A rich list!
Please also consider a part two devoted specifically to depression and anxiety - worth continued attention.
Thank you!!!!