It feels similar to being in a haunted house and knowing/thinking something bad is about to happen, which is a complete mind f***. The intrusive thoughts are the worst, since I didn’t realize to what extent they would happen, but it got bad and I just had to live moment-to-moment while trying to come to terms with my new “normal.”
Thanks Dan, I pretty much know that the psychology and physical symptoms are a direct hit of 20 years of benzo use. You explained this so well ! I needed to hear this. Thank you! ❤️
Everyone at their own pace. That's something I realized going through this. I had so many people telling me what I should be doing who never went through this. They can pound sand. Another excellent video Dan. Your coaching is the bomb. Anyone who thinks they should take advantage of it, should. Your rates are very cheap.
My pumped up nervous system is an ever present foe. After 30 + years on ativan, I began a slow taper. Trying to sit with the fear. Sit through the panic. The palps. The disjointedness. Thanks for being there, Dan. It makes a big difference.❤
Owing to about 25 years use of prescription medicines like SSRIs and benzodiazepines my excretionary functions like urination became very dependent on these. When i went off these medicines 6.5 years ago, severe reactions ensued. Almost all other systems related symptoms vanished except the defecatory function though it got slightly better every year. The intestines and colon seems to have become stiff due to long dependence and returning to the normal even after 6.5 years has been turbulent with IBS at the core of symptoms. 0:18
Ohh. Thanks Dan. It seems like the anxiety will start to fade and then WHAM get slapped again. Hard to tell any baseline is approaching. I was diagnosed with it. I will keep you in mind for coming coach sessions. ❤ P
I've been free for 50 months and when I leave home I still have to return several times because I feel panic about talking to people. I feel completely incapable of having a social life. I need my wife to solve almost everything, because I don't even feel comfortable talking on the cell phone. My fatigue has improved from that point where I was in bed for 13 months almost unable to move, in the last two years I started to be able to stand for a few minutes holding on to something or walking with a lot of effort and suffering, in the last year I already have days that I can stand longer and go for walks. Sometimes I can't understand extremely simple things, I still can't have self-control and I get angry and explode easily. among so many other symptoms that I have felt during the last many years of my life, I almost don't even remember who I am... but one thing I know... This person is not me!
Hey mate i compeltley sympathize. I have agoraphobia that i nevrr had previously in my life. (Security doorman for 10 years). Very odd. I also had such bad fatigue i thought i was dying. (Bed bound for 3 years and excessive sleeping). Got to 80% better at 5.5years off Had an acute setback from pepcid and antibiotics. Been in hell for 17 months now. Every single day. About to hit 7 years off shortly. I believe what dan says though. Eventually it gets better and just to live day to day.
Tnx Dan 🎉. The biggest problem after 11 months was off a rapid taper from 60mg Val I have now is that awful feeling inside. The anxiety isn’t that hectic for me or I can’t really differentiate between the two really. I keeps my mind occupied with the feelings I have and it’s so frustrating. Because I feel I’m loosing a lot with day to day activities and my family.
Thank you so much! I am in such a crazy brain fog that I forgot my morning liquid dose of medication yesterday so I think that had me in a serious spiral. Not that I’m not in the spiral anyway very grateful that you’re on here.🙏
For me, the terror comes at night. When I wake up, I think it's more a feeling of depression and physical symptoms of tightness/squeezing. At this point, it's hard to say how much of it is coming from withdrawal and how much is from the 27.5mg of lamictal I'm still stuck on. I think it's a combination of both but a good bit of it is coming from the lamictal.
7 week use of snri,it's 2 years now when dr cold turkeyed me from it (60mg) i have been suffered seizures EVERY day since,and i mean every day.constant terror 24/7.
I was able to overcome my anxiety disorder for good with Dr. Claire Weekes' therapy and i have no anxiety what so ever even in withdrawal but i do have those rushes in the morning that are horrible and i feel the chemical anxiety but i can defeat it every time cause the tools i learned work for chemical anxiety as well.
Yes. I like to use a meditative practice of noticing my thoughts and realizing they are not “me.” I am not my thoughts but I am the witnessing presence who sees the thoughts and reacts to them.
I am on venlafaxine and can only reduce 1 bead about every 3 weeks due to the affects, does it get any better as u go on? as at this rate it will take me about another 7 yrs to get off
As usual your video are always encouraging..thank you! One question I have been unable to find an answer to is: Can a person "hold" on their taper for *too* long? Gradually tapered on klonopin (clonazepam) to 1/2 original dosage taken for 6 years in a slow 1 year period but came to a point of uncomfortable anxiety. Decided to hold for a while to get to a semi normal level until I felt comfortable to continue on taper. That semi normal level never came. After 1 and 1/2 years am still on that "temporary hold" afraid to even think of continuing with the taper. Is it possible that a healing is still going on (though anxiety level is still high) or is it best to continue back on the slow taper? I realize there is not one distinct or definitive answer to this...but if you or fellow sufferers have any advice would very much appreciate some feedback. God bless.
People always say they dont abuse there benzos. But anthen say they took them for 10 years straight. If you took benzos for ten years straight then thats abuse. An if someone gets prescribed 1 mg a day but overtakes it an takes 3 a day, there no diffrent then soneone who gets prescribed 3 mg a day an takes it right. These doctore dont know what the riggt dam dosage is. There literallt just guessing. If you took benzos longer then 4 wesks straight then you abused them. Wether it was intentional or not doesent chwnge anything. People act like just cause they follower there doctors orders that means they didnt abuse them. What if your doctor tells you ti take 5 mg twice a day? An you do it. You may be taking it as prescribed by your doctors but that doesejt mean your not abusing them tho. Wether its taken as prescribed or not is reallt irrevelwnt. Its not like your doctor has some kind of magic that he can see how mucy benzo you " need" people need to quit acting like there high an mighty. Saying " well i never abused them like other people" anthen go on to say they took them everyday for 20 years. Hiws that not abuse? Your not even suppised to take a benzo everyday. There for emergecies. An your not even supposed to take them longer then 2 to weeks. People gotta stop putting so much trust in doctors. Thats why werecall in this mess in the first place.
Love ya Dan! Thanks for all of your content. Keep helping ppl…ppl who have gone through this should get a Medal of Honor. It’s like going to war with your body and mind, leaving you shell-shocked. The PTSD it causes is real for me.
The anxiety is like nothing I never experienced in my life. It's true terror.
Absolutely is. Its a terrible feeling
It feels similar to being in a haunted house and knowing/thinking something bad is about to happen, which is a complete mind f***. The intrusive thoughts are the worst, since I didn’t realize to what extent they would happen, but it got bad and I just had to live moment-to-moment while trying to come to terms with my new “normal.”
I haven’t had a single day without chemical anxiety since this started; never had anxiety before my adverse reaction.
So sorry you’re having to deal with this. I hope it heals for you very soon.
It makes you feel you drank a bucket of chemicals. Becauss you literally did. Over time.
This is the best description ever.
Thanks Dan, I pretty much know that the psychology and physical symptoms are a direct hit of 20 years of benzo use. You explained this so well ! I needed to hear this.
Thank you! ❤️
🙏🏻❤️🩹
It's even harder to deal with this chemical anxiety when you've never had anxiety before only coming off the meds 😔
Everyone at their own pace. That's something I realized going through this. I had so many people telling me what I should be doing who never went through this. They can pound sand.
Another excellent video Dan.
Your coaching is the bomb. Anyone who thinks they should take advantage of it, should. Your rates are very cheap.
Thank you Jim!
My pumped up nervous system is an ever present foe. After 30 + years on ativan, I began a slow taper. Trying to sit with the fear. Sit through the panic. The palps. The disjointedness. Thanks for being there, Dan. It makes a big difference.❤
What gives me a panic attack…is rushing water from a shower…I have to take a bath. It triggers me. It upsets me.
There’s no end to what we can find intolerable during this process. ❤️🩹
Make a video about chemical depression ..and how to deal with it as depression is severe at lower doses..
Yes please
Owing to about 25 years use of prescription medicines like SSRIs and benzodiazepines my excretionary functions like urination became very dependent on these. When i went off these medicines 6.5 years ago, severe reactions ensued. Almost all other systems related symptoms vanished except the defecatory function though it got slightly better every year. The intestines and colon seems to have become stiff due to long dependence and returning to the normal even after 6.5 years has been turbulent with IBS at the core of symptoms. 0:18
I’m sorry this happened to you. I’ve also had so many digestive issues.
Ohh. Thanks Dan. It seems like the anxiety will start to fade and then WHAM get slapped again. Hard to tell any baseline is approaching. I was diagnosed with it. I will keep you in mind for coming coach sessions. ❤ P
Thank you Mr. Dan Landeur for your very useful videos and soothing words
It’s my honor. ❤️🩹🙏🏻
I've been free for 50 months and when I leave home I still have to return several times because I feel panic about talking to people. I feel completely incapable of having a social life. I need my wife to solve almost everything, because I don't even feel comfortable talking on the cell phone. My fatigue has improved from that point where I was in bed for 13 months almost unable to move, in the last two years I started to be able to stand for a few minutes holding on to something or walking with a lot of effort and suffering, in the last year I already have days that I can stand longer and go for walks. Sometimes I can't understand extremely simple things, I still can't have self-control and I get angry and explode easily. among so many other symptoms that I have felt during the last many years of my life, I almost don't even remember who I am... but one thing I know... This person is not me!
Hey mate i compeltley sympathize. I have agoraphobia that i nevrr had previously in my life. (Security doorman for 10 years). Very odd.
I also had such bad fatigue i thought i was dying. (Bed bound for 3 years and excessive sleeping).
Got to 80% better at 5.5years off
Had an acute setback from pepcid and antibiotics. Been in hell for 17 months now. Every single day. About to hit 7 years off shortly.
I believe what dan says though. Eventually it gets better and just to live day to day.
Hey I hope your doing a little better. Been 2 years for me. Srill doing horrible.
Tnx Dan 🎉. The biggest problem after 11 months was off a rapid taper from 60mg Val I have now is that awful feeling inside. The anxiety isn’t that hectic for me or I can’t really differentiate between the two really. I keeps my mind occupied with the feelings I have and it’s so frustrating. Because I feel I’m loosing a lot with day to day activities and my family.
same feeling at lower dose after 15 months taper
Rapid tapers are horrendous. I’m happy you’re off the drug and healing now.
Thank you so much! I am in such a crazy brain fog that I forgot my morning liquid dose of medication yesterday so I think that had me in a serious spiral. Not that I’m not in the spiral anyway very grateful that you’re on here.🙏
7 months off of it, still feeling this.
Yessss, thank you always Dan, you make us remember its possible to come out the other side ❤❤
There’s always hope. We just need to keep looking towards it. I refuse to give in. ✊🏻
It’s overwhelming
For me, the terror comes at night. When I wake up, I think it's more a feeling of depression and physical symptoms of tightness/squeezing. At this point, it's hard to say how much of it is coming from withdrawal and how much is from the 27.5mg of lamictal I'm still stuck on. I think it's a combination of both but a good bit of it is coming from the lamictal.
Yeah, it was hard for me to tell too since I was still on gabapentin so I hear you.
I just had a major panic attack. Thought I was dying
God, I’m sorry Sheryl. Those are so tough and take some time to recover from.
@@philosophicalfishing thank you so much. So hard to go through this. And I had 5 neck surgeries. I’m in PAIN constantly. Going through everything
Another great informative video Dan, thank you
Thank you!🙏🏻
Thanks so much
@@Dvgrvv 🙂✌🏻
The terror is horrible! Feel so scared n restless n nose throat ears n lips feel like acid in it n electricity in brain n body burning. It's so scary!
Yeah. You described it perfectly. Its debilitating
You're so inspirational ❤ thank you!
🙏🏻❤️
Im 4.5 years of meds still dont know my normal, i do know its not like this dont know how to get out of this!
It takes a long time for some of us to find that normal again. It took me 5 years
@@philosophicalfishing Are all your benzo symtoms gone?...i do hope so!
Having too much morning anxiety but still on taper line of clonazepam 0.25 this and all i dont had before
❤️🩹❤️🩹
7 week use of snri,it's 2 years now when dr cold turkeyed me from it (60mg) i have been suffered seizures EVERY day since,and i mean every day.constant terror 24/7.
I was able to overcome my anxiety disorder for good with Dr. Claire Weekes' therapy and i have no anxiety what so ever even in withdrawal but i do have those rushes in the morning that are horrible and i feel the chemical anxiety but i can defeat it every time cause the tools i learned work for chemical anxiety as well.
How long did the chemical anxiety last past tapering? Now I’m dealing with hyperstimulation.
It slowly dwindled away but lasted in total for probably 3 years
Anything to do about extrem dpdr everyday? It's been going on for 5 months and head pain for 11 months the dpdr is so bad.
Guarding your nervous system is important during this time, but also knowing that it will eventually subside once you heal.
How do I deal with acute suicidal thoughts? Any tips?
Yes. I like to use a meditative practice of noticing my thoughts and realizing they are not “me.” I am not my thoughts but I am the witnessing presence who sees the thoughts and reacts to them.
CNS 🤯
I can do today 😢I’m tapering it’s 6:00 am
I can’t do today 😢I can’t type
You can do today, you were right the first time. 🙂 I know it’s hell. It’s one day, that’s all. Just today. Try not to think about anything else.
I am on venlafaxine and can only reduce 1 bead about every 3 weeks due to the affects, does it get any better as u go on? as at this rate it will take me about another 7 yrs to get off
As usual your video are always encouraging..thank you! One question I have been unable to find an answer to is: Can a person "hold" on their taper for *too* long? Gradually tapered on klonopin (clonazepam) to 1/2 original dosage taken for 6 years in a slow 1 year period but came to a point of uncomfortable anxiety. Decided to hold for a while to get to a semi normal level until I felt comfortable to continue on taper. That semi normal level never came. After 1 and 1/2 years am still on that "temporary hold" afraid to even think of continuing with the taper. Is it possible that a healing is still going on (though anxiety level is still high) or is it best to continue back on the slow taper? I realize there is not one distinct or definitive answer to this...but if you or fellow sufferers have any advice would very much appreciate some feedback. God bless.
It is possible if you’re having any interdose withdrawal from holding.
@@philosophicalfishing41 months off still anxiety when it get better
So what can you do to treat it. Or at least find something that helps you physically and mentally live with it .?
The only light in the darkness is Jesus Christ. He is the Light of this world. Trust in Him for hope, comfort, eternal life and forgiveness of sins.
I am trusting and turning to HIM. Suffering is enormous. Lord have mercy
People always say they dont abuse there benzos. But anthen say they took them for 10 years straight. If you took benzos for ten years straight then thats abuse. An if someone gets prescribed 1 mg a day but overtakes it an takes 3 a day, there no diffrent then soneone who gets prescribed 3 mg a day an takes it right. These doctore dont know what the riggt dam dosage is. There literallt just guessing. If you took benzos longer then 4 wesks straight then you abused them. Wether it was intentional or not doesent chwnge anything. People act like just cause they follower there doctors orders that means they didnt abuse them. What if your doctor tells you ti take 5 mg twice a day? An you do it. You may be taking it as prescribed by your doctors but that doesejt mean your not abusing them tho. Wether its taken as prescribed or not is reallt irrevelwnt. Its not like your doctor has some kind of magic that he can see how mucy benzo you " need" people need to quit acting like there high an mighty. Saying " well i never abused them like other people" anthen go on to say they took them everyday for 20 years. Hiws that not abuse? Your not even suppised to take a benzo everyday. There for emergecies. An your not even supposed to take them longer then 2 to weeks. People gotta stop putting so much trust in doctors. Thats why werecall in this mess in the first place.
Love ya Dan! Thanks for all of your content. Keep helping ppl…ppl who have gone through this should get a Medal of Honor. It’s like going to war with your body and mind, leaving you shell-shocked. The PTSD it causes is real for me.
Thank you, you’re absolutely right, it is like fighting a battle everyday.