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I worked on late 60"s model FWD with air brakes with no low air safety just a joke of drive shaft emergency brake. If you lost air head for the side of the road and down shift. AND PUCKER UP
In 1984 I was driving a Deuce while stationed at Ft. Stewart, GA. One day as I was approaching at stop sign the brake pedal went to the floor and stayed there. No brakes of any kind. I was driving slow but I was already into the intersection before I could do anything. I rolled over the front end of a Nissan 240Z. My right front tire actually rolled on to the hood of the car. I had to pay a $20 fine in court. No one in maintenance believed me when I said the brake pedal went to the floor and didn't return. They said I must have mashed the clutch. A couple of weeks later the same thing happened to another driver in the same truck. He rolled through a stop sign and T boned a pickup truck and rolled the pickup. Maintenance didn't know what was wrong with the truck. The last time I saw that Deuce it was sitting on jack stands and battalion maintenance was in the process of replacing everything associated with the brake system. Including the pedal!
Back in the days 18 wheelers brakes worked the same way that's why you always chalked block your tires when parked. The old timers remembered that. Loved your videos from Charles
I've lost brakes in one of mine testing a day before a meet. All I had to do was downshift and use emergency brake . My brake line popped so I lost fluid . Replaced them all.
G'day BC,.... Steel Soldiers did a test and found the air provided 800ftb of pressure to the hydraulic system, without the air you will still have brakes but you will need to stand on the peddle to provide enough pressure to slow you to a stop, of course if your on any kind of a down hill, to quote Lister from Red Dwarf: "its brown trousers time" ;) Aussie.
Yeah, I'm gonna be "that guy", but it was in the episode where they first meet Kriten. How's that kipper ? A Canuck and an Aussie discussing a British show on a American YT channel.... living in 2017 has its perks.
I'm sure it was the "Holly-Hop" episode, might be a great excuse to watch it all again so no down side as I see it. lol But its been a while since I last had a Red Dwarf marathon,.... Aussie.
When I was in the army were I did base and ait training a duse lost its air coming back from a training area over loaded with troupes in the back on a 6% 5mile down grade. The MPs clocked with radar the truck doing over 100mph
@@pacificcoastpiper3949 well I wasn't in the deuce that it happened to I was in the next class to that traing at that location. Oh the deuce finly stopped approx 50 yards from the hospital. The day before that a 5ton lost a steer wheel at the top of the same hill and flipped over. One trainee died when the spare tire landed on him
Go downhill in the mountains to a curve and see a cliff where it goes some 100 metres down. Then you wish good brakes in that truck. And better you don't think about the one circle hydraulic brake system...
Im new to your videos and totally digging them. Been wanting a duce myself. Yes in female, yes mechanically inclined, yes currently drive a large old f250 standard shift... just in case anyone reads this and is shaking their head. Lol. Doing my research now on the positives and negatives. Thank you
Negative: you're doing 47 max as your cruising speed unless you want to overrev it and throw a rod or blow your head gasket (You can get to about 55Mph with bigger tires from what I heard, I have these tires but have yet to install them), 2nd you better have a good bit of strength, these are manual steering, no power steering. Ofc this can be fixed with adding power steering like I'm going to do to make it more usable. 3rd, this is not going to be comfortable by any means and you will get wet if it rains outside, you will also be hot when it's hot out and cold when it's cold out unless you get lucky to have a heater which I don't. Not a problem with me since I'm in Louisiana but I'll like to have defrosters. Positives is basically everything, you have a long bed to do everything you need, you can go anywhere you need too but don't get ahead of yourself, these trucks don't come with lockers and once you get stuck, you're stuck, this is a nearly 7 ton truck. Another positive not mentioned much is visibility, you have all the visibility you need with the correct MRAP mirrors and a backup cam. You should totally get it if you can deal with those negatives. One more thing I'll add is it does take a bit of servicing, but mines haven't given me any issues yet and I been owning mines for about a year. You'll defo be the first female I seen own one of these lol
@@hummerguy well believe it or not, i have a ton of experience with driving big old farm trucks with no breaks or power steering. All my trucks are 5 speed standard and I am your not so typical chic. I was a boxer and lived off grid alone building and surviving in the woods . No im not man size but like my grandmother told me there's nothing a woman can't do that a man can with the right tool and I live by that. So that being said, this girl ain't skerd! Lol. And thank you for the info! Much appreciated
Reminds me of the days when I drove a school bus when I was in high school in NC. Those vacuum booster brakes were a nightmare. If you lost vacuum, for what ever reason, say the engine stalled on a hill, you'd better hope you had a good and tight parking brake!
Thanks for the video, it was fun to watch. I have a deuce that has brake problems right now, so it was good to see this video. My truck keep losing brake fluid, but can't find where yet? I always thought it would stop without air, but you would have to pump & stomp. Thanks! Next time, do like I would have done, try a bigger hill!
not really familiar with air systems.....but fluid loss with no sign of leak might mean the fluid is going into the booster and getting sucked into the intake manifold no idea if this thing has a hydraulic brake style booster.....probably doesnt..... but if it has a vacuum booster.... id look their 2nd place id look is the wheel cylinders.....the little piston that pushes the shoe pads out they always seem to go when old look for fluid on the inside of your rims
Earl Schultz wheel cylinders are the most likely culprit. Also you can try pumping the breaks a bunch and check the vent line for the airpack and mc. If there is fluid puking out the. Your airpack has failed. Without any air in the system do you still have good peddle pressure? If not mc is gone. I just had to do all this in mine. Paine in the ass but it's the nature of the beast. On many of these the airpack vent comes out the slobber tube on the turbo FYI. Get the tms and start reading
Thanks for the info. I had good air, the wheel cyl. started to leak bad and I lost peddle. When I replaced wheel cyl. the brakes worked fine, for a while. Then it started to leak out the fitting in the back, so I tightened it. Then after a while I kept losing fluid, but couldn't see where#@! It has been so wet here I haven't been able move it & jack it up, till now. Thanks!
The 5 tons and 2 1/2 tons we were using in the early to late 1980s were, in many cases, Vietnam era production models. Lose the brakes on one of those bad boys when fully loaded AND/OR pulling a full trailer while going through the German Alps or the mountains of Kentucky and things could get ugly quick!!! Trust me I know these things. More than a few peace time Service Members lost their lives or were badly injured when they lost the brakes on either of those older model cargo/troop trucks. I think your point is well made and demonstrated.
I agree with you there. I served as section chief in a Lance Missile unit in A Btry 3rd Bn 79th FA in Giessen, west Germany in late 70's to mid 80's. Glad to say we never lost brakes on our M-151A1 Jeep or M-752 tracked Missile launcher or our POC ( piece O crap ) M-880. We did have several vehicle accidents during FTX when sleep deprived drivers would fall asleep at the wheel and drive into a Gasthaus while barreling through a small German village at 3:00 AM. Did you serve in Germany yourself FD? Closest I got to German Alps was flying over them in a C-130 once a year with our entire unit to go to the Island of Crete to do our annual service practice firing.
Bill23799, yes sir, I served in what was then West Germany. I was armor (first edition M1 Abrams MBTs and first edition Bradley IFVs) with 3ID. We had occasion to road march those early models, while on FTX, and discovered that sleep deprivation AND bad brakes are a very bad combination. I watched an M1 directly in front of mine go off the shoulder of a road just fifty or so meters from a rather long, and rather magnificent bridge, that connected, for all practical purposes, two mountains. I firmly believe it was only due to Divine Intervention, that the tank managed to wedge itself between the only two boulders in sight on the side of that mountain and did not slide-tumble all the way down which would have killed the four man crew. After the M1 and it scared witless (can you blame them?) crew were pulled back onto the roadway by two M88s working in tandem for all they were worth, that tank was Low-Boyed for the remainder of the FTX and, upon returning from the field was carefully examined by a team from General Dynamics (that company had purchased the Chrysler Tank Division by the time we got our M1s.) and they were horrified to discover a "gremlin" in the system. This "gremlin" could and had been suspected in other M1 accidents where the tanks had suddenly veered off pavement and, in all previous such incidents, done a slide, roll, and tumble that resulted in the deaths or sever injury of all crew members and the near total destruction of the tanks themselves. The "gremlin" (some tank mechanics and a couple of the G.D. people called it the "drunken gremlin") was the result of the wrong part for the wrong job in the steering and braking systems of those early, often slapped together M1s. Too much pressure too often and the track on one side or the other was going to lock and the other side just kept on "tracking" which threw the tank into a sudden uncontrollable hard left or right 90 degree turn that the driver had no hope of recovering from when there were drop offs (cliffs) on at least one side of the roadway. And GI luck being what it was/is you can guess which track would "lock down" in direct relation to which side of the roadway ended in a drop off/cliff. I never saw anything in writing but the word from our mechanics was that a simple $25.00 part replacement solved all such brake failures Army wide in the M1 and I assume that such failures have not occurred since.
Oh, my goodness, alps downhill with a five ton fully loaded, I won't do that. I would be worried about to do this with my M109A3. And German alps? That's for pussys. Germanys alps are not so high. Austria, Suisse and France is higher. Try col de l'iseran in France. This pass is 2770 metres high. On top in summer frozen with - 2°C and 20 minutes later down 30°C in shadow. Cool experience...I did it with moto, but not with the deuce. Without a retarder a shitty feeling. For me, the Bergisches Land, Sauerland and Eifel, not far from cologne is enough for the deuce 😄
my buddy just had brake failure on a grade, while evacuating from Valley Fire even parking brake belt broke. No Nothing at 60mph. He grinded the M35 into a granite mountainside, sometimes on 3 wheels as he ground the granite and stopped the beast 1\8th of a mile from a 90 degree right hander. NO DAMAGE to truck, only mountainside.
happened to my friend on his farm Lol, his deuce turned into a battering ram and went THROUGH his barn, it was like a FRIGGIN CARTOON LOL, a DEUCE shaped hole in the wood side of the barn, he was panicking too
How about a show on modifications that can be safely made to the ole Deuce. I know they make a hard top conversion for those old trucks as well as Plan B offering a Power plant upgrade to get away from the 250hp engine in the form or a 470 hp unit from Cummins. Great video.
The brake fluid is checked through an access panel in the floor near the driver's seat. You need to find out if you have dot3 or dot5 before adding because they do not mix.
Huh didn't know that about the brakes, always figured they were the same as a semi's. Wonder if its possible or even worth it to retrofit brakes from a semi to a Deuce.
I drove 2400 miles. Exited the interstate, no problem. Drive .25 miles and made a left onto my street, no problem. Pulling into my driveway, brake pedal to the floor - no brakes whatsoever. Let’s talk about luck!!
You are too funny! Maybe part two of total air pressure failure test (like Charlie zaps your air tank) is trying to stop with the so called emergency, aka parking, brake. Last century, I drove a school bus that had air-over-hydraulic, and they told us you just had to pump and press like mad ... once again, "they lie!"
Donald Dodson I can speak from personal experience, the emergency break works if pumped, a pain trying to pump that handle, steer and shift at same time. Definitely time for new undies a cigarette and a cold beer when stopped.
Lost air pressure on mine one day when one of the air tanks had a pinhole that ruptured into a 1/4” hole, made my butthole draw up when I realized the brakes were gone as I was going downhill, downshifted into second gear and cranked on the parking brake handle beside the door. That my friend was a fun experience
I was stationed in Lance Missile unit in ( west ) Germany in the 70's and 80's. We had both Deuce and a halfs and Long Bed 5 Tons in our unit. As I recall the Deuce and a Halfs we had used a turbocharged diesel engine. It made a distinctive whistling noise when it was running. I think the other difference between 5 Tons and 2 1/2 tons was that 2 1/2 tons had power steering and 5 tons didn't. I was in a Missile firing platoon so we did not have the big trucks the A&T ( assembly & Transport ) platoons had. It may be the audio but I was not hearing that whistling noise coming from your engine.
You are correct, the whistle came from the older type C turbo nicknamed, "the whistler" but my deuce had a new engine installed at some point in it's life which also has the last type of turbo named the type D on it. It has the same power, or lack there of, but none of the whistle. Also, consider yourselves lucky to have had power steering on your deuces. Here is a link to my U-Turn in a manual steering deuce. th-cam.com/video/Bjn18uPKb2E/w-d-xo.html
Just a quick question On my M35A2 checked the booster. And hydraulics on the brakes. Everything works fine but for some reason. It keeps building up pressure and locking the brakes up. And the only way that I can get the brakes to unlock is open up. The trailer brake valve. Would you know what would cause that?
Hi, on my 1970 M109A3 with an LDT465-1C I still got brakes without air. It is like a normal hydraulic brake system without air power support. And I killed the damn buzzer
That truck is so cool. Very interesting to loose air pressure you also loose your breaks. I never knew that. Have you seen on the internet any of the military 5th wheel trucks? There doesn't seem to be to many of them.
Many owners will swap to a dual circuit system with hydroboost from medium duty commercial trucks. There's also kits available to convert to disc brakes from f550/600 trucks, makes maintenance easier.
Hey B.C. We super really enjoy these Deuce truck videos. I’m going to be finally getting mine soon. It’s bobbed from Boyce Equipment out of Utah. I had to have one bobbed because of the Mountains , cliffs and crazy small winding roads I live on. Extra you dangerous to operate a full comp,ets size Deuce her in my area. Is there a video on towing jacking up & changing a tire for us new Duece owners. Cover some proper tools & kits. Thanks B.C. Your great with these videos.
It is and from what I understand those that were shipped to Canada had them from the factory but Uncle Sam didn't want to spend the extra money. I think there are kits out there or at least plans and parts list for someone to cobble something together.
@@deuceandguns from what I've read, the Air Force m35a2's had dual circuit brakes when delivered to uncle Sam and most, if not all were Air Force blue.
I lost all brakes (Hydrovac) on a five ton dump, coming down a very steep mountain road in S. Korea with 10 souls onboard and a five ton bolster trailer pushing us down the mountain. All 18 tires were sliding around the bends many times. Totally use every inch of pavement in both lanes to address most curves. First time I Ever saw a black man turn white, (My shotgun, SSG Catchings). The driveshaft brake was totally reduced to melted rivets. Laid down the guardrails in several spots that blew out three tires on the passenger side of the truck. The front passenger tire and the two outside Dulles. The tach was pegged out in four high and temp gauge was just about maxed. After a life threatening 3 or 4 miles We finally came to a stop after blowing thew a S. Korean guard check point in the on-comming traffic lane which had a low uphill grade. How that Korean guard's whistle could be herd over a screaming 240 Cummings turbo diesel, I'll never know. Everyone was roughed up but not seriously injured. Some Kissed the ground, and others have thanks to God. Amen. If this ever happens in these old trucks, don't pump the pedal, hold it steady and don't let the pedal up any, just adjust your foot pressure or the air in that stroke of peddle will be lost. You will be able to see the air pressure drop off fast if you let up off the pedal. Air pump cannot keep up with the loss of air.
@@deuceandguns Hey, if you are interested in a hack for your truck for the rear axles for extreme off-road dependability concerning the link bars, (I've ripped the rubber out on a few) let me know. It would keep you driving if it ever happens to your truck, let me know.
i drove a UD flatbed tow truck that was air over hydraulic and sitting in stop and go traffic if the air was to low you literally would have to pull the hand brake because the pedal would go completely away in seconds and there was nothing. so i know what you are saying. gotta keep an eye on that air gauge!
Hell most of the trucks i have owned dont have the air loss safety valve. It hasnt been around forever. In fact, A buzzer or warning light at most. One or the other along with a "wigwag" Stop arm that drifted down in front of your face above the windshield as air pressure dropped. Front brakes are another "new" thing. My '77 only has brakes on the drive axles.
seems like it might be simple to swap the pedal, hydroboost, and dual circuit brake system from a hydro brake international 4700. Would be even better if there was an air brake conversion for the axles. I've also thought it would be nice to make an air park brake. So that in the even of a loss of air, it would set the park brake. Also would be much better than the existing one.
Right, I really like that idea of the air parking brake because I hate the current parking brake and don't have too much trust in it on any kind of incline
I recently started a m35a2, and when we put it in gear, it didn’t want to move. We found out that the brakes were locked on it. Any help on how to fix it?
You still have brakes but the air application force isn’t there. If you are creeping forward or not stopping after air loss your master cylinder is junk! Mine stops with no air.
I would love to see how to install a 12 volt plug in the deuce for modern day plugs like a cigarette lighter plug to charge phones bc I have no idea how that would work
HELP HELP HELP 1981 Deuce, No brakes what so ever. Air pressure on gauge 100psi no leaks on the air system at all. Nor any brake fluid leak seen. Any ideas? Thank you!
If you have pressure, no leaks, and good on brake fluid then it's probably either the master cylinder or air pack. The brake system on these trucks is the hardest thing to diagnose.
DEUCE AND GUNS So, come to find out, that is a bit difficult to find DOT5 brake fluid in PR at the moment, but was fortunate enough to find 6 small bottles. Well, I open all of the wheel cylinder and notice that the fluid coming out was yellow. And that's a no good, since DOT5 is color purple. What I did? Well, I bleed the entire brake system until ("purple color brake fluid") came out of the bleeders, and each and every single one took all 6 bottles of DOT5 fluid, and finally got 100% braking power to the pedal. Conclusion: A high believed that the brake system got contaminated with a DOT 3 or 4 And the brakes won't apply the way they are supposed to. So pretty much, I just flush the system with new DOT5 fluid... And what a beauty, stops on a dime. Entire procedure took about one hour. Ps: I have extra (brand new master cylinders) if anyone interested. Ships Word Wide.
I would have been nice if my low air pressure buzzer actually worked, I heard a loud hiss and went oh no, luckily the day before I had just adjusted the tension on the parking brake! The whole ride back was white knuckle driving, downshift to almost stall the truck then slowly apply parking brake to kinda stop
This kind of make me more confident with the deuce, I thought the brakes would be 100% gone, but its just like a vehicle losing hydraulic pressure on the booster.
sorta reminds me of when my buddy said "oh, your front hubs are locked in...let me unlock them for ya' and my truck started rolling down hill.... 1977 chevy square bodies with NP203 full time 4.....arnt ment to have unlocking front hubs.... the Tcase sends power to both axles in "hi loc" and "lo loc" but only power to the axle with the least traction in 'hi' or "lo" (yup, i get a "2 wheel drive" low) so unlocking the front hubs = away we go! someone put on the hubs to try to get better MPG by driving unlocked and in hi loc.....which will hold the truck when parked but it wears out the Tcase stump pulling truck however.....low is LOW....and that 400 SBC has a lot of grunt
I got 6 old chevy full times on the farm we use them all wouldn't have one that's not I like the low range you can use on hwy for pulling heavy trailers. Or if the roads are a little slimey full times are nice
Not certain but I believe the deuce is not air assist, it is air actuated. Meaning the pedal puts air pressure to the brake system which then applies the hydraulic pressure. By the way, I moved to TN finally, maybe we could meet up for coffee sometime.
Ford Ferguson no, the peddle pushes break fluid into the into the air pack which then opens the valves for the air to boost the amount of hydrolic pressure.
I just redid my breaks on mine. New master cylinder and rebuilt the air pack. With no air I was able to pump the peddle and my breaks worked ok. Enough to slow me down on a gentle incline. Before re adjusting and rebuilding I don't think it would have done anything with the amount of fluid that's normally in the system. I have installed the remote resivoir as well which is nice to see the level.
I am a truck driver and I was totally going to say that. Well I mean I wouldn’t say “You have no idea what you’re talking about.” But yeah that’s a really unsafe design.
BC, love the deuce videos. Very informative. Watched all of them I believe. Have you done one on proper winching techniques with a deuce. Would love to see it.
This video is kinda missleading If you lose air in a big truck you certainly lose your brakes (service) Between 25-40 pounds the spring overcome air and the parking (maxi) brakes engage. It sounds like the deuce has air brakes without maxis. I've never heard of air over hydraulic brakes but I've never messed with a deuce.
While it seems backwards to us thinking of the vehicle in Normal commuter type mindset.. it makes sense if you think that 'Fail-Safe' means running over people because you can't break but the truck still goes forward is a 'good thing'.. while the truck's brakes locking up due to No Air and stranding you somewhere in a combat zone is a bad thing. It was designed safe for a war zone unsafe(ish) for stateside
The army has little worry about automotive liability, as a branch of the government, it's called sovereignty. Theyare concerned with going, not so much about stopping
Thomas Gordon can't see why you can't. We pull start diesels semis at my grandfathers. This is no different just make sure you got a good rig to pull it like a good size tractor
Think thats bad, try air brakes on a train. They are air over air, so when the main air drops the air in each tank on each car pushes the brake shoes. So you have air fighting against air. Use too much air in too quick of sessions and the air pressure on each car will equalize with the brake line air pressure = no air brakes
always liked simulators and strategy over shooters and the like....a sim called "run8'.... does a lot of stuff other foamer sims get wrong tried to bring a grain unit train down cajon pass. got going PRETTY fast......that was exciting....
Dual circuit brakes weren't mandatory by federal regulations till the late 60s. The the m35 series (A1/A2) dueces started shipping in 1950. Since redesign and retrofit takes money, the dueces didn't get dual circuit brakes untill the A3 variant came out in the late 80s/90s
In an emergency situation like total brake failure can the parking brake stop the truck? Even if it locks the wheels up can it do it? That's an awfully big and heavy rig to lose your brakes in. Granted they're geared really low which will help slow it down but if you lose air pressure, hence your brakes how the hell do you stop?! It would almost be worth having an isolated emergency air tank with a valve in the cab to switch over to in an emergency. The brakes are about the only real engineering fail on the deuce and a half that I know of. I'd like to think that people who own these things keep a pretty close eye on the guages but there's an awful lot to pay attention to.
When adjusted correctly the parking break can lock up all eight rear wheels on gravel...never tried it on asphalt. Other than that you've only got downshifting and the tiny amount of manual breaks left.
Deuce and Guns is wrong about total loss. I certainly would not want to be in the passenger seat while he is driving if he lost air pressure. If this happens to a deuce driver, STAND on the pedal, pull up HARD on the steering wheel. The harder you push the pedal the faster you will stop. If you weigh 300lbs it helps, but don't believe there is a total loss and look for a place to crash!
Get a Viair of >60psi which runs in-parallel wthe mil-spec aircompressor, and a check-valve on each. Then unless the control-unit fails (passenger-side rear of enginebay), hoses CATASTROPHICALY fail (replace them w/silicone, etc, you're safe if the milspec-compressor fails. ...otherwise: exhaust-brake whilst supplementing w/the handbrake. :-)
Simply step harder on the pedal.... OK, stopping at speed downhill without booster is not a good idea, but these little ramp from standing shouldnt be a problem to brake without air. My M109A3 does it, and it's a ton more heavier than the M35.
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I worked on late 60"s model FWD with air brakes with no low air safety just a joke of drive shaft emergency brake. If you lost air head for the side of the road and down shift. AND PUCKER UP
Who the hell needs brakes, all they ever do is slow you down ;).
Lol
In 1984 I was driving a Deuce while stationed at Ft. Stewart, GA. One day as I was approaching at stop sign the brake pedal went to the floor and stayed there. No brakes of any kind. I was driving slow but I was already into the intersection before I could do anything. I rolled over the front end of a Nissan 240Z. My right front tire actually rolled on to the hood of the car. I had to pay a $20 fine in court. No one in maintenance believed me when I said the brake pedal went to the floor and didn't return. They said I must have mashed the clutch. A couple of weeks later the same thing happened to another driver in the same truck. He rolled through a stop sign and T boned a pickup truck and rolled the pickup. Maintenance didn't know what was wrong with the truck. The last time I saw that Deuce it was sitting on jack stands and battalion maintenance was in the process of replacing everything associated with the brake system. Including the pedal!
My question is what happened to the motor pool Sargent?
Back in the days 18 wheelers brakes worked the same way that's why you always chalked block your tires when parked. The old timers remembered that. Loved your videos from Charles
Just bought a 1971 today. Pick it up next week. Cant wait.
Great video....thanks
Jeff in Ohio
I used to drive one of these trucks as a soldier. Really brought back some memories. Mine was named the "Southside Express". Thanks!
I've lost brakes in one of mine testing a day before a meet. All I had to do was downshift and use emergency brake . My brake line popped so I lost fluid . Replaced them all.
G'day BC,.... Steel Soldiers did a test and found the air provided 800ftb of pressure to the hydraulic system, without the air you will still have brakes but you will need to stand on the peddle to provide enough pressure to slow you to a stop, of course if your on any kind of a down hill, to quote Lister from Red Dwarf: "its brown trousers time" ;) Aussie.
Aussie Bloke
Not to be too picky, but it was Holly. It's ok, you can smoke me a kipper and be back for breakfast.
Yes you are correct, I stand corrected. And I actually remember that episode it was from, The Holly-Hop Drive! LOL Damn that was a funny show. Aussie.
Yeah, I'm gonna be "that guy", but it was in the episode where they first meet Kriten. How's that kipper ?
A Canuck and an Aussie discussing a British show on a American YT channel.... living in 2017 has its perks.
I'm sure it was the "Holly-Hop" episode, might be a great excuse to watch it all again so no down side as I see it. lol But its been a while since I last had a Red Dwarf marathon,.... Aussie.
th-cam.com/video/RSt1Kshj1QA/w-d-xo.html I'll have my Kipper with melted butter and Mushrooms please! ;) Aussie.
When I was in the army were I did base and ait training a duse lost its air coming back from a training area over loaded with troupes in the back on a 6% 5mile down grade. The MPs clocked with radar the truck doing over 100mph
Wow! 100 in a deuce? I hope you had clean trousers when you finally got things situated
@@pacificcoastpiper3949 well I wasn't in the deuce that it happened to I was in the next class to that traing at that location. Oh the deuce finly stopped approx 50 yards from the hospital. The day before that a 5ton lost a steer wheel at the top of the same hill and flipped over. One trainee died when the spare tire landed on him
@@donmcmannamy3409 well damn! That’s not good. I hope someone had a talk with the motor pool and maintenance crew
@@pacificcoastpiper3949 criminal charges were filed but never found out the outcome of that
@@donmcmannamy3409 I hope it got sorted out, that’s a dangerous situation
Love the haunted house sound. Dig your Deuce videos. Thank you
No air? What's the phrase? Sierra Oscar Lima.
Hell, with a truck like that who needs to stop. Great vid. Love the Deuce
Go downhill in the mountains to a curve and see a cliff where it goes some 100 metres down. Then you wish good brakes in that truck. And better you don't think about the one circle hydraulic brake system...
Im new to your videos and totally digging them. Been wanting a duce myself. Yes in female, yes mechanically inclined, yes currently drive a large old f250 standard shift... just in case anyone reads this and is shaking their head. Lol. Doing my research now on the positives and negatives. Thank you
Negative: you're doing 47 max as your cruising speed unless you want to overrev it and throw a rod or blow your head gasket (You can get to about 55Mph with bigger tires from what I heard, I have these tires but have yet to install them), 2nd you better have a good bit of strength, these are manual steering, no power steering. Ofc this can be fixed with adding power steering like I'm going to do to make it more usable. 3rd, this is not going to be comfortable by any means and you will get wet if it rains outside, you will also be hot when it's hot out and cold when it's cold out unless you get lucky to have a heater which I don't. Not a problem with me since I'm in Louisiana but I'll like to have defrosters.
Positives is basically everything, you have a long bed to do everything you need, you can go anywhere you need too but don't get ahead of yourself, these trucks don't come with lockers and once you get stuck, you're stuck, this is a nearly 7 ton truck. Another positive not mentioned much is visibility, you have all the visibility you need with the correct MRAP mirrors and a backup cam. You should totally get it if you can deal with those negatives. One more thing I'll add is it does take a bit of servicing, but mines haven't given me any issues yet and I been owning mines for about a year. You'll defo be the first female I seen own one of these lol
@@hummerguy well believe it or not, i have a ton of experience with driving big old farm trucks with no breaks or power steering. All my trucks are 5 speed standard and I am your not so typical chic. I was a boxer and lived off grid alone building and surviving in the woods . No im not man size but like my grandmother told me there's nothing a woman can't do that a man can with the right tool and I live by that. So that being said, this girl ain't skerd! Lol. And thank you for the info! Much appreciated
@@annazamberletti1253 Nicee, you're the definition of a real woman
@@hummerguy just a survivor.
Reminds me of the days when I drove a school bus when I was in high school in NC. Those vacuum booster brakes were a nightmare. If you lost vacuum, for what ever reason, say the engine stalled on a hill, you'd better hope you had a good and tight parking brake!
Thanks for the video, it was fun to watch. I have a deuce that has brake problems right now, so it was good to see this video. My truck keep losing brake fluid, but can't find where yet? I always thought it would stop without air, but you would have to pump & stomp. Thanks! Next time, do like I would have done, try a bigger hill!
not really familiar with air systems.....but fluid loss with no sign of leak might mean the fluid is going into the booster and getting sucked into the intake manifold
no idea if this thing has a hydraulic brake style booster.....probably doesnt.....
but if it has a vacuum booster.... id look their
2nd place id look is the wheel cylinders.....the little piston that pushes the shoe pads out
they always seem to go when old
look for fluid on the inside of your rims
Earl Schultz wheel cylinders are the most likely culprit. Also you can try pumping the breaks a bunch and check the vent line for the airpack and mc. If there is fluid puking out the. Your airpack has failed. Without any air in the system do you still have good peddle pressure? If not mc is gone. I just had to do all this in mine. Paine in the ass but it's the nature of the beast. On many of these the airpack vent comes out the slobber tube on the turbo FYI. Get the tms and start reading
Thanks for the info. I had good air, the wheel cyl. started to leak bad and I lost peddle. When I replaced wheel cyl. the brakes worked fine, for a while. Then it started to leak out the fitting in the back, so I tightened it. Then after a while I kept losing fluid, but couldn't see where#@! It has been so wet here I haven't been able move it & jack it up, till now. Thanks!
Thanks, gonna go there next!
Love the videos! I always try to be one of the first ones to view! There’s a lot of those just sitting in fields here In KY it’s a real shame.
I'm looking to buy one if know of any for sale
PUSH ON IT!!!!! I could have stopped my m35 under those conditions. You have to stand on em HARD! It'll stop.
Awesome video. Thanks for sharing this.
The 5 tons and 2 1/2 tons we were using in the early to late 1980s were, in many cases, Vietnam era production models. Lose the brakes on one of those bad boys when fully loaded AND/OR pulling a full trailer while going through the German Alps or the mountains of Kentucky and things could get ugly quick!!! Trust me I know these things. More than a few peace time Service Members lost their lives or were badly injured when they lost the brakes on either of those older model cargo/troop trucks. I think your point is well made and demonstrated.
I agree with you there. I served as section chief in a Lance Missile unit in A Btry 3rd Bn 79th FA in Giessen, west Germany in late 70's to mid 80's. Glad to say we never lost brakes on our M-151A1 Jeep or M-752 tracked Missile launcher or our POC ( piece O crap ) M-880. We did have several vehicle accidents during FTX when sleep deprived drivers would fall asleep at the wheel and drive into a Gasthaus while barreling through a small German village at 3:00 AM.
Did you serve in Germany yourself FD? Closest I got to German Alps was flying over them in a C-130 once a year with our entire unit to go to the Island of Crete to do our annual service practice firing.
Bill23799, yes sir, I served in what was then West Germany. I was armor (first edition M1 Abrams MBTs and first edition Bradley IFVs) with 3ID. We had occasion to road march those early models, while on FTX, and discovered that sleep deprivation AND bad brakes are a very bad combination. I watched an M1 directly in front of mine go off the shoulder of a road just fifty or so meters from a rather long, and rather magnificent bridge, that connected, for all practical purposes, two mountains. I firmly believe it was only due to Divine Intervention, that the tank managed to wedge itself between the only two boulders in sight on the side of that mountain and did not slide-tumble all the way down which would have killed the four man crew. After the M1 and it scared witless (can you blame them?) crew were pulled back onto the roadway by two M88s working in tandem for all they were worth, that tank was Low-Boyed for the remainder of the FTX and, upon returning from the field was carefully examined by a team from General Dynamics (that company had purchased the Chrysler Tank Division by the time we got our M1s.) and they were horrified to discover a "gremlin" in the system. This "gremlin" could and had been suspected in other M1 accidents where the tanks had suddenly veered off pavement and, in all previous such incidents, done a slide, roll, and tumble that resulted in the deaths or sever injury of all crew members and the near total destruction of the tanks themselves. The "gremlin" (some tank mechanics and a couple of the G.D. people called it the "drunken gremlin") was the result of the wrong part for the wrong job in the steering and braking systems of those early, often slapped together M1s. Too much pressure too often and the track on one side or the other was going to lock and the other side just kept on "tracking" which threw the tank into a sudden uncontrollable hard left or right 90 degree turn that the driver had no hope of recovering from when there were drop offs (cliffs) on at least one side of the roadway. And GI luck being what it was/is you can guess which track would "lock down" in direct relation to which side of the roadway ended in a drop off/cliff. I never saw anything in writing but the word from our mechanics was that a simple $25.00 part replacement solved all such brake failures Army wide in the M1 and I assume that such failures have not occurred since.
Oh, my goodness, alps downhill with a five ton fully loaded, I won't do that. I would be worried about to do this with my M109A3. And German alps? That's for pussys. Germanys alps are not so high. Austria, Suisse and France is higher. Try col de l'iseran in France. This pass is 2770 metres high. On top in summer frozen with - 2°C and 20 minutes later down 30°C in shadow. Cool experience...I did it with moto, but not with the deuce.
Without a retarder a shitty feeling. For me, the Bergisches Land, Sauerland and Eifel, not far from cologne is enough for the deuce 😄
Memory lane!!! Like a Timex takes a licking n keeps on ticking!!! Thanks for sharing!!!
Good video. I like how you demonstrate how long it takes to build up full air pressure from zero. That is longer than I thought.
Love the "truck". Actually jams w/JP4
Idk those sandals are gonna win you any Manly Truck Driver thumbs up.... 👍🏼
Thanks for the video!
Thank you!
my buddy just had brake failure on a grade, while evacuating from Valley Fire even parking brake belt broke. No Nothing at 60mph. He grinded the M35 into a granite mountainside, sometimes on 3 wheels as he ground the granite and stopped the beast 1\8th of a mile from a 90 degree right hander. NO DAMAGE to truck, only mountainside.
happened to my friend on his farm
Lol, his deuce turned into a battering ram and went THROUGH his barn, it was like a FRIGGIN CARTOON LOL, a DEUCE shaped hole in the wood side of the barn, he was panicking too
If I lost my brakes on one of those l would just Jump out it and it a drag my feet think it would stop ? LoL
Flintstones style? Give it a shot but have a camera rolling.
That hill was an excellent opportunity to show your followers how to bump start a deuce. There's an idea for your next video...
Wow, that’s crazy and does show a great driver. Well done sir.
I served in Germany myself.
Miss it there. More beer please !
How about a show on modifications that can be safely made to the ole Deuce. I know they make a hard top conversion for those old trucks as well as Plan B offering a Power plant upgrade to get away from the 250hp engine in the form or a 470 hp unit from Cummins. Great video.
I drove M35A2’s all over. Germany and in Ft Huachuca many many miles and never had a break down
I like this but please would you explain how to add break fluid and what kind of oil we're supposed to use please.
The brake fluid is checked through an access panel in the floor near the driver's seat. You need to find out if you have dot3 or dot5 before adding because they do not mix.
How do you pump up the air pressure and get the air back in the system for the brakes?
There's an on board air compressor attached to the engine.
I could fall asleep too that sound . ATB u an ya family
Adding pinion brakes to mine as a backup. Separate master cylinder and on the transmission tunnel/seat bracket.
Huh didn't know that about the brakes, always figured they were the same as a semi's. Wonder if its possible or even worth it to retrofit brakes from a semi to a Deuce.
@Gabriel Contreras BRAKES....
I drove 2400 miles. Exited the interstate, no problem. Drive .25 miles and made a left onto my street, no problem. Pulling into my driveway, brake pedal to the floor - no brakes whatsoever. Let’s talk about luck!!
You are too funny! Maybe part two of total air pressure failure test (like Charlie zaps your air tank) is trying to stop with the so called emergency, aka parking, brake. Last century, I drove a school bus that had air-over-hydraulic, and they told us you just had to pump and press like mad ... once again, "they lie!"
Donald Dodson
I can speak from personal experience, the emergency break works if pumped, a pain trying to pump that handle, steer and shift at same time. Definitely time for new undies a cigarette and a cold beer when stopped.
Could you do a video of a break change
I drove a Deuce in Germany from Wildflecken to Fulda without brakes. Most of the brake components were missing. 11th ACR.
No back up reserve air tank for emergencys?
Nope.
Is there a high idle switch on these trucks? Maybe on the M35A3 with the Catterpillar?
There's not a switch per the modern terms but there is a hand throttle and you can set the RPM to anything you want and it'll hold it.
Lost air pressure on mine one day when one of the air tanks had a pinhole that ruptured into a 1/4” hole, made my butthole draw up when I realized the brakes were gone as I was going downhill, downshifted into second gear and cranked on the parking brake handle beside the door. That my friend was a fun experience
I was stationed in Lance Missile unit in ( west ) Germany in the 70's and 80's. We had both Deuce and a halfs and
Long Bed 5 Tons in our unit. As I recall the Deuce and a Halfs we had used a turbocharged diesel engine.
It made a distinctive whistling noise when it was running.
I think the other difference between 5 Tons and 2 1/2 tons was that 2 1/2 tons had power steering and 5 tons didn't.
I was in a Missile firing platoon so we did not have the big trucks the A&T ( assembly & Transport ) platoons had.
It may be the audio but I was not hearing that whistling noise coming from your engine.
You are correct, the whistle came from the older type C turbo nicknamed, "the whistler" but my deuce had a new engine installed at some point in it's life which also has the last type of turbo named the type D on it. It has the same power, or lack there of, but none of the whistle. Also, consider yourselves lucky to have had power steering on your deuces. Here is a link to my U-Turn in a manual steering deuce. th-cam.com/video/Bjn18uPKb2E/w-d-xo.html
Just a quick question On my M35A2 checked the booster. And hydraulics on the brakes. Everything works fine but for some reason. It keeps building up pressure and locking the brakes up. And the only way that I can get the brakes to unlock is open up. The trailer brake valve. Would you know what would cause that?
That could be a control valve problem with the airpack. You may get away with lubrication or it may need to be rebuilt/replaced.
@deuceandguns thank you.
Hi, on my 1970 M109A3 with an LDT465-1C I still got brakes without air.
It is like a normal hydraulic brake system without air power support.
And I killed the damn buzzer
What's the horn sounded like on a deuce and a half
My 1971 m35a2 only uses air to assist. I can brake without air, just need to stand on the pedal harder. Not sure what is wrong with your truck.
Id say his brakes probably haven't been serviced since it left military service
That truck is so cool. Very interesting to loose air pressure you also loose your breaks. I never knew that. Have you seen on the internet any of the military 5th wheel trucks? There doesn't seem to be to many of them.
Many owners will swap to a dual circuit system with hydroboost from medium duty commercial trucks. There's also kits available to convert to disc brakes from f550/600 trucks, makes maintenance easier.
is it feasible or at least possible to retrofit the deuce to the air over springs that the semis use?
nerdrulesu Contact the Firestone people that make the item you refer to. They will have a technical support line somewhere.
Any chance of you doing a breaks wheel cylinder and brake hose swap video
can you jump start it ?
by popping the clutch ?
yea
Hey B.C. We super really enjoy these Deuce truck videos. I’m going to be finally getting mine soon.
It’s bobbed from Boyce Equipment out of Utah.
I had to have one bobbed because of the Mountains , cliffs and crazy small winding roads I live on.
Extra you dangerous to operate a full comp,ets size Deuce her in my area.
Is there a video on towing jacking up & changing a tire for us new Duece owners. Cover some proper tools & kits.
Thanks B.C. Your great with these videos.
Sorry for the typo, we love spell check, right, ha,ha.
Also is it possible to install a dual circuit master cylinder on these trucks
It is and from what I understand those that were shipped to Canada had them from the factory but Uncle Sam didn't want to spend the extra money. I think there are kits out there or at least plans and parts list for someone to cobble something together.
@@deuceandguns from what I've read, the Air Force m35a2's had dual circuit brakes when delivered to uncle Sam and most, if not all were Air Force blue.
When you have a air loss in a 18 wheeler, the maxi springs set trying to stop the rig. If you cage the spring it's non stop from there.
I lost all brakes (Hydrovac) on a five ton dump, coming down a very steep mountain road in S. Korea with 10 souls onboard and a five ton bolster trailer pushing us down the mountain. All 18 tires were sliding around the bends many times. Totally use every inch of pavement in both lanes to address most curves. First time I Ever saw a black man turn white, (My shotgun, SSG Catchings). The driveshaft brake was totally reduced to melted rivets. Laid down the guardrails in several spots that blew out three tires on the passenger side of the truck. The front passenger tire and the two outside Dulles. The tach was pegged out in four high and temp gauge was just about maxed. After a life threatening 3 or 4 miles We finally came to a stop after blowing thew a S. Korean guard check point in the on-comming traffic lane which had a low uphill grade. How that Korean guard's whistle could be herd over a screaming 240 Cummings turbo diesel, I'll never know. Everyone was roughed up but not seriously injured. Some Kissed the ground, and others have thanks to God. Amen. If this ever happens in these old trucks, don't pump the pedal, hold it steady and don't let the pedal up any, just adjust your foot pressure or the air in that stroke of peddle will be lost. You will be able to see the air pressure drop off fast if you let up off the pedal. Air pump cannot keep up with the loss of air.
Wow. Glad you made it through that and thanks for the helpful tip.
@@deuceandguns Hey, if you are interested in a hack for your truck for the rear axles for extreme off-road dependability concerning the link bars, (I've ripped the rubber out on a few) let me know. It would keep you driving if it ever happens to your truck, let me know.
Remember when they were designed and built, aka single line hydraulic brakes meaning if one line breaks you lose all braking.
Apparently before 1975 trucks weren't required to have dual circuit air brakes including semi trucks
happened to me...damn hydrovac system
Is your drivers side headlight (same one you replaced in previous video) foggy?
Nope. Clear as a bell but is probably dirty.
i drove a UD flatbed tow truck that was air over hydraulic and sitting in stop and go traffic if the air was to low you literally would have to pull the hand brake because the pedal would go completely away in seconds and there was nothing. so i know what you are saying. gotta keep an eye on that air gauge!
Hell most of the trucks i have owned dont have the air loss safety valve. It hasnt been around forever. In fact, A buzzer or warning light at most. One or the other along with a "wigwag" Stop arm that drifted down in front of your face above the windshield as air pressure dropped. Front brakes are another "new" thing. My '77 only has brakes on the drive axles.
I could be mistaken on the year but 1986 is where that was remedied even for 18 wheelers
If you blow the motor in your deuce, can you replace it with a 525 CAT
seems like it might be simple to swap the pedal, hydroboost, and dual circuit brake system from a hydro brake international 4700. Would be even better if there was an air brake conversion for the axles. I've also thought it would be nice to make an air park brake. So that in the even of a loss of air, it would set the park brake. Also would be much better than the existing one.
Right, I really like that idea of the air parking brake because I hate the current parking brake and don't have too much trust in it on any kind of incline
I recently started a m35a2, and when we put it in gear, it didn’t want to move. We found out that the brakes were locked on it. Any help on how to fix it?
You still have brakes but the air application force isn’t there.
If you are creeping forward or not stopping after air loss your master cylinder is junk! Mine stops with no air.
I would love to see how to install a 12 volt plug in the deuce for modern day plugs like a cigarette lighter plug to charge phones bc I have no idea how that would work
Love channel. Just subbed. Thinking about getting a bobbed deuce. Any thoughts on the bobbed? Also, what state are you in?
HELP HELP HELP
1981 Deuce, No brakes what so ever. Air pressure on gauge 100psi no leaks on the air system at all. Nor any brake fluid leak seen. Any ideas? Thank you!
If you have pressure, no leaks, and good on brake fluid then it's probably either the master cylinder or air pack. The brake system on these trucks is the hardest thing to diagnose.
DEUCE AND GUNS Ok. Thank you for the reply. I will reply back as soon as I find what's the issue.
DEUCE AND GUNS Do you have a video of the master cylinder or the air pack been fix?
Unfortunately, I don't. I've never had an issue with mine so I can only point you to the TM and steel soldiers.
DEUCE AND GUNS So, come to find out, that is a bit difficult to find DOT5 brake fluid in PR at the moment, but was fortunate enough to find 6 small bottles. Well, I open all of the wheel cylinder and notice that the fluid coming out was yellow. And that's a no good, since DOT5 is color purple. What I did? Well, I bleed the entire brake system until ("purple color brake fluid") came out of the bleeders, and each and every single one took all 6 bottles of DOT5 fluid, and finally got 100% braking power to the pedal. Conclusion: A high believed that the brake system got contaminated with a DOT 3 or 4 And the brakes won't apply the way they are supposed to. So pretty much, I just flush the system with new DOT5 fluid... And what a beauty, stops on a dime. Entire procedure took about one hour.
Ps: I have extra (brand new master cylinders) if anyone interested. Ships Word Wide.
I would have been nice if my low air pressure buzzer actually worked, I heard a loud hiss and went oh no, luckily the day before I had just adjusted the tension on the parking brake! The whole ride back was white knuckle driving, downshift to almost stall the truck then slowly apply parking brake to kinda stop
Hey man, where’s the Boone’s hat? It’s cool
They didn't want soldiers to get into a firefight and lose brakes because of an air pressure if it loses there they can still drive it to get away
That actually makes a lot of sense
I prefer a Half track M-5. Wait for it... same chassis.
If I had been able to find a half track anywhere near the price of my deuce you better believe my TH-cam channel would be called Half Track and Guns!
This kind of make me more confident with the deuce, I thought the brakes would be 100% gone, but its just like a vehicle losing hydraulic pressure on the booster.
sorta reminds me of when my buddy said "oh, your front hubs are locked in...let me unlock them for ya'
and my truck started rolling down hill....
1977 chevy square bodies with NP203 full time 4.....arnt ment to have unlocking front hubs....
the Tcase sends power to both axles in "hi loc" and "lo loc"
but only power to the axle with the least traction in 'hi' or "lo" (yup, i get a "2 wheel drive" low)
so unlocking the front hubs = away we go!
someone put on the hubs to try to get better MPG by driving unlocked and in hi loc.....which will hold the truck when parked
but it wears out the Tcase
stump pulling truck however.....low is LOW....and that 400 SBC has a lot of grunt
kain hall those np203s made for awesome snow plowing machines!
I got 6 old chevy full times on the farm we use them all wouldn't have one that's not I like the low range you can use on hwy for pulling heavy trailers. Or if the roads are a little slimey full times are nice
So, how about a video of what to do in case of total brake failure?
down shift and plan your stops way ahead of time, just bought mine and the brakes failed, drove it home 70+ miles without brakes
Not certain but I believe the deuce is not air assist, it is air actuated. Meaning the pedal puts air pressure to the brake system which then applies the hydraulic pressure. By the way, I moved to TN finally, maybe we could meet up for coffee sometime.
Ford Ferguson no, the peddle pushes break fluid into the into the air pack which then opens the valves for the air to boost the amount of hydrolic pressure.
I just redid my breaks on mine. New master cylinder and rebuilt the air pack. With no air I was able to pump the peddle and my breaks worked ok. Enough to slow me down on a gentle incline. Before re adjusting and rebuilding I don't think it would have done anything with the amount of fluid that's normally in the system. I have installed the remote resivoir as well which is nice to see the level.
I am a truck driver and I was totally going to say that. Well I mean I wouldn’t say “You have no idea what you’re talking about.” But yeah that’s a really unsafe design.
I have a 1954 gmc m135 air over hydr lost my air compressor there's brakes but not very good stopping time way longer
BC, love the deuce videos. Very informative. Watched all of them I believe. Have you done one on proper winching techniques with a deuce. Would love to see it.
This video is kinda missleading If you lose air in a big truck you certainly lose your brakes (service) Between 25-40 pounds the spring overcome air and the parking (maxi) brakes engage. It sounds like the deuce has air brakes without maxis. I've never heard of air over hydraulic brakes but I've never messed with a deuce.
they have air assist hydro brakes sorta like a brake booster but using pressure instead of vacuum
While it seems backwards to us thinking of the vehicle in Normal commuter type mindset.. it makes sense if you think that 'Fail-Safe' means running over people because you can't break but the truck still goes forward is a 'good thing'.. while the truck's brakes locking up due to No Air and stranding you somewhere in a combat zone is a bad thing. It was designed safe for a war zone unsafe(ish) for stateside
The army has little worry about automotive liability, as a branch of the government, it's called sovereignty. Theyare concerned with going, not so much about stopping
Can you pull start a duce?
Thomas Gordon can't see why you can't. We pull start diesels semis at my grandfathers. This is no different just make sure you got a good rig to pull it like a good size tractor
Thomas Gordon yes you can
Yes but you need a really long recoil rope.
beverwyck1 i found it easier to park it on a hill and pop the clutch if it has starting issues then it was my job to fix them .
That was a joke but I'm sure you knew that..
I have seen this alot in my air force career first check the hydrovac then check the master cylinder. Usually that is what goes bad first.
More video's!!! Haha
When I get in make sense if I'm getting shot of it rather be able to drive away have a truck stop
Think thats bad, try air brakes on a train. They are air over air, so when the main air drops the air in each tank on each car pushes the brake shoes. So you have air fighting against air. Use too much air in too quick of sessions and the air pressure on each car will equalize with the brake line air pressure = no air brakes
always liked simulators and strategy over shooters and the like....a sim called "run8'.... does a lot of stuff other foamer sims get wrong
tried to bring a grain unit train down cajon pass.
got going PRETTY fast......that was exciting....
I want more of these types of legit simulators in VR too lol, would make some good on-job training
Pissing away your air is Never a good thing .
I'm just a Vietnam vet. The "world" is different now.
schnekm483bk Ken
Welcome Home!
schnekm483bk ken I just wanted to take the time to thank you for your service
I can't believe the DoD ordered these trucks with single circuit brakes for so many years.
Dual circuit brakes weren't mandatory by federal regulations till the late 60s. The the m35 series (A1/A2) dueces started shipping in 1950. Since redesign and retrofit takes money, the dueces didn't get dual circuit brakes untill the A3 variant came out in the late 80s/90s
ah the difference of air over hydraulic vs actual air brakes
In an emergency situation like total brake failure can the parking brake stop the truck? Even if it locks the wheels up can it do it? That's an awfully big and heavy rig to lose your brakes in. Granted they're geared really low which will help slow it down but if you lose air pressure, hence your brakes how the hell do you stop?! It would almost be worth having an isolated emergency air tank with a valve in the cab to switch over to in an emergency. The brakes are about the only real engineering fail on the deuce and a half that I know of. I'd like to think that people who own these things keep a pretty close eye on the guages but there's an awful lot to pay attention to.
When adjusted correctly the parking break can lock up all eight rear wheels on gravel...never tried it on asphalt. Other than that you've only got downshifting and the tiny amount of manual breaks left.
Deuce and Guns is wrong about total loss. I certainly would not want to be in the passenger seat while he is driving if he lost air pressure. If this happens to a deuce driver, STAND on the pedal, pull up HARD on the steering wheel. The harder you push the pedal the faster you will stop. If you weigh 300lbs it helps, but don't believe there is a total loss and look for a place to crash!
Yea I've notice this, a lot of people spread the miss conception of total loss of brakes with no air
If it will set up the other way when their pressure went down to break the lock that would be stranded stuck
Get a Viair of >60psi which runs in-parallel wthe mil-spec aircompressor, and a check-valve on each. Then unless the control-unit fails (passenger-side rear of enginebay), hoses CATASTROPHICALY fail (replace them w/silicone, etc, you're safe if the milspec-compressor fails.
...otherwise: exhaust-brake whilst supplementing w/the handbrake. :-)
The military pays extra for "old" tech.
Simply step harder on the pedal.... OK, stopping at speed downhill without booster is not a good idea, but these little ramp from standing shouldnt be a problem to brake without air. My M109A3 does it, and it's a ton more heavier than the M35.
air hydraulic system,just find place for all your parts