You Need This Tool - Episode 37 | Tools For Making Carbon Fiber
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I hope this helps some you guys out that are looking to try your hand at making some Carbon Fiber.
You Need This Tool - Episode 37 | Tools For Making Carbon Fiber
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just a note carbon fiber is directional so lay your carbon in a direction that will get tension (pulling) force. it is also good to change directions of the fabric between each layer for a all around stronger part i.e. 0 deg then 45 deg then 0 deg. if you are on the cheap a shop vac has enough force to vac bag for someone that isn't going to do a lot of parts. one last comment it is best to put a resin collection bucket between your part and pump so the pump does not suck resin into the pump and ruin the thing.
I've watched all of your CF videos before and this was still helpful. sometimes its nice to have a real quick concise down to earth overview. thanks!
thanks...glad I can help
This is the best tool video ever.! Bro I gotta tell you a funny story. My girl asked what day it was (on a Friday) lol and you can only imagine what I said! "It's FRIDAY FOOL!......an you need this tool!" I quoted you word for word. Best laugh I had in months. Had to show her your films. Keep up the great work man your vids are dope.
+Arioc Guzman thanks man....that's rad, I bet she thought you had lost your mind
I used to work with carbon fiber on air force assets. you can do so much with carbon fiber. good idea to teach the way you do. nice job brother.
thanks
Mike oliver show us make a TH-cam channel
Being an aviation composite guy for about 20 yrs. I will say that was a good basic demo on wet layups. That process can also be used with woven glass and kevlar. There were a few little things that could have been said differently but that is me looking at it from a tradesman's point of view. It is a good video never the less. My only advice would be that when you place your vacuum puck under your bagging and on your breather. Leave enough space for the puck to not rest on your part. It will leave an impression in the cured piece. Also, you should never need anything more than 25 to 30 inches of mercury on your vacuum. Any more than that then you start to get into what is called resin starvation where you are pulling too much out of your layups. There is a plethora of information out there your guys and gals that want to try this at home. I will say this do your research before you jump into a big job. Start off small sharpen your skills. I have been there before and it is very easy to screw up a whole layup with one little mistake. Composites are still fun for me after all these yrs. So have fun and don't be scared to fail at it. It will happen even when you did everything correct.
Thanks....agree on the dont be afraid to fail
Yeah just run a strip of breather off to the side of the part and work the bag as you pull vac
I agree.......I would also take a piee of bleeder cloth say 6in X 6in.....fold it up to protect the fitting from resign being sucked in it. I have also seen where running your vacuum to high....I usually shoot for 14inhg......Higher and I have resign starved the part.
Great job on the video! I’m going to make a carbon fiber 6pack hood using my aftermarket 68 mopar hood to make the mold, then I’ll do black chrome hood pins to hold it down. Can’t wait
"It doesn't have to be aerospace technology to make a bracket."
Scotty Kilmer would be proud of your use of common sense here.
this explanation is more down-to-earth, good job bro
I'm doing all my studying on getting into carbon fiber making, plan on starting with canards for cars. What would you suggest for extra rigidity since they will see a fair amount of air to divert, the last thing I want is it being flimsy. I was thinking of stacking thin layers, but also was looking into using thin marine foam for the inside and 2 layers on either side of it
Awesome video man, thanks to you I'm one step closer to starting on my carbon SN95 build.
thats awesome!
Awesome video, this channel is a gem glad I found it
appreciate it
thanks for this video man.
just subscribed
excellent crash course!... you cover the whole process while focusing on the points that matter without drawing out the minor details.... you didn't lose me.. but every other video did..
awesome. thanks
Nice Video Kyle. I'd love to see some more CF videos on your channel. I have noticed there aren't too many people putting out CF content these days. I made some sun visors for my Shelby CSX recently and I was pleased enough with the results that I'm thinking about jumping in head first and doing a hood.
Keep up the good work.
I planned to do a ton of carbon fiber stuff on the Bibbster so I am sure I will have complete vids on those projects
Awesome vídeo more of carbon fiber please!!! thanks from Spain love all of your vídeos!
thanks...appreciate you watching
thanks man. great channel!
excelente, todo un proceso, . saludos y gracias.
Agree with you 100 percent about people trying to scare you away from using this awesome material. I am using a carbon fiber/kevlar 50/50 composite for my car frame.
awesome
great video, thanks for taking the time to make them.
thanks
Thanks for the video and parts list. I had watched Easy Composites process videos. I had not considered hand lay up then vacuum bagging instead of pulling resin from a supply line. Your approach may simplify the setup. Thanks!
yeah it makes it a little easier
Just found your channel and subscribed thanks. Dave
Nice video man. Would like to see you do another full demo follow up and then a bit of detail on the clean up. Specifically how do you stop the resin from setting in the vent and how do you clean the vacuum chamber if you use one?
+Daniel Bennett I want to do another full carbon video as well...maybe another boxed upper intake manifold.
great video thanks for your time explaining this to us
Thanks...no problem
thanks for your videos I am buying my starter kit and trick out my 89 GT mustang
how well will this kit adhere to aluminum and also if im looking to just use it for a build up like making shape around aluminum i wont have to vacuum it just let it dry and sand ? and then prime and paint ?
Thank you
I am inspired good sir!
Thanks dude its a great tools
Good information!
Great stuff. Carbon Fiber is something on the short list of mine to start working with and you just made my shopping list pretty easy! Now I just need to figure out how to make the molds that I want.
Thanks!
Thanks...Its really not that hard
I saw there was some stuff on the forum around making molds. I need to go back and check that out. I've got a few pretty "simple" designs I've been wanting to make for my '68. I need to get a dang punch list and get all the stuff ordered so I can DO WORK SON!
Yeah there are a ton of TH-cam videos also on making molds. You should have any trouble finding what you are looking for.
Great video been ordering carbon parts for the longest for my projects might as well learn the skill is it worth to lay fiber glass to practice?
Nice video! Wish me luck. I wanna try making my own hood with book-matched fabric.
this was really good. thanks dude.
no problem
Good stuff Kyle!
+🔥Ramsey Customs - turbocobra thanks
So helpful thanks I'm going to have a go for sure
awesome
Well done for the beginner. I have been laying up carbon fiber for going on 20 years and you did hit the big stuff. PrePreg will help a ton with waste resin. With PrePreg your breather hardly gets wet.
Its all about getting people to give it a try for me.
Great video, thanks!!!
welcome....thanks for watching
You can use an air conditioner or refrigerator compressor for a vacuum pump as well. Easily pull 27-28" of vacuum. You can get em for free off the curb or in scrap yards. I have used them extensively to vacuum down AC&R systems before charging them.
yeah for sure
Awesome. Will have to try it no!
i just bought a roll of carbon fiber twill weave 2x2... and its basically seethrough all over. gaps throughout all of it... is urs like that too? even if i tighten the weave a bit and tape it there are still gaps, is it just something that is no longer noticeable once there is a few layers down?
I think the 2x2 is like that. when you stack the layer you wont see it as long as the top layer weave is nice and straight. You will probably need to go to a 6x6 or higher to keep from that happening
Good Stuff Mannnnn! I learned a lot from your video.........
awesome...glad I can help
Hexcel FTW!!! 🤘🏾🤘🏾🤘🏾
By the way I love your videos..!! It's one thing I look forward to every Friday. Thank you for all the hard work.!
thanks man....appreciate it
one thing to add is if you can use a catch tank between your part and the vac pump in case you have to much resin you dont want that in the vac pump!
For sure...I never use one, usually just make some bridging with the breather to catch it all
What kind of tubing hose are you using from the pump to the port?
I just bought a resin infusion setup.. I look forward to building some stuff.
sweeet...you will have to post your project on the forums
Cool stuff!! Cool video too
Thanks
if you just want to skim is it the same process?
Killer video Kyle. I so want to get into cf. I've watched tons of videos on it. Ya'll make it look easy. Do the parts come out of the bag finished? As in do you need to sand them? Or polish? Or clear coat? What would the finishing process be if the parts need to be finished.
If the mold is clean and slick the parts will come out finished. I usually end up sanding and clearing my stuff.
Off the topic but are you going to the Sema in Vegas this year brotha? Or have you ever done a meet & greet thing lol
I was planning to go to SEMA but may not make it this year. I would love to do a meet and greet...just got to find the right place and scenario.
also do you need both PVA and mold release wax?? I only bought PVA thinking that would be enough, or can't I just use plastic release film as a mold release method?
release film will leave wrinkles in your part. I suggest wax and PVA
Good .i like it and your performense is best 👍😎
Hey Kyle, you know, I am Brazilian, and do not understand any English ... hahaha
But putting the parts in the video description helps a lot, this is undoubtedly the best video Need This Tool I have ever seen
It will help me a lot to fabricate the doors, hood, fenders and other parts of my project
Thank you Kyle, you are the man !!!
Translated by Google
Impressionante ... feliz que pude ajudar
You speak portuguese ! \o/
lol....no I just use google translate
Literally made a carbon fibre box in my spare room no fancy tools but a vacuum would of been great.
Love your videos btw
thanks for watching
I love your mentality. Just try it because you never know how much you'll love it and be proud of your accomplishments, right?
yeah for sure
Finally a video about fabrication! 😉
I kid, great breakdown for the cf noobs. If you care less about weight, you can just layup like fiberglass.
Thanks...Yeah
Man that is an amazing Friday fool episode
I wish that your amazon Links work for the canadian market 👍keep the fiber coming
Thanks. Can you not see the products on Amazon?
The Fab Forums you did not link the vacuum pump you linked the Jar at least that what is the description
I can open the link and it opens in Amazon USA have to copy description and put it in my canadian account
94Discovery that's your problem AY!!
pump link doesnt work could you list model?
Any special considerations for sport bike fairings...? I've always wanted to kit up one of my rides full carbon fiber but they are so pricey. Would i have to make a mold first or can i use the same concept using the fairing as the mold...?
not that I know of
Appreciate you sharing this info. I am left with one question as a total Newby. on the wax layer in the very beginning. do you apply it then buff it out like waxing a car or do you apply it and leave it on? sorry if it's a stupid question but I've never done this before. thanks again
yeah you would apply it and once dry wipe off the residue
is it the same pump where is make up vakum during filing up an car's AC system?
Where can I buy the carbon fibre kits ive been looking on ebay and its just small kits and everything seperate. Thanks
I dont offer them any more so Im not sure
use old fridge motor for vacuümpomp cheap way powerpump and compressor Max (+-20bar)
I have seen some do that
I might make me a carbon fiber console.....thanks for the vid man...
Say you wanted to make a wing for a car what do you make the template out of so you can form the carbon?
ah that's a good question Mike. I guess it really depends on the style wing. I would probably make a bunch of flat panels that have a foam core of some kind and then construct the wind in pieces.
what do you use to cut it after your done?
GnarlyBoots die angle grinders usually with different styles of bits or cut off wheels.
can you use the breather after its been saturated and dried for anything like a light wieght bracket or panel?
no...you will see it never really stiffens up fully.
not a good idea.
great explanations, might give this a try sometime been curious to try to make things of carbon for my car, hopefully i dont screw it up lol
its not that hard to do
hi, it is the same pump is used during AC system vacum build up? I do't know how to
describe
Depends on the size of the pump, but it should work for smaller projects
Hello . I want to make safety shoe toe with nano fiberglass material. Can you explain that? Thank you
Rite on brotha your show is the shit you always got good advice at the end.
thanks man
What would you suggest for a vaccum to do body parts? Or is there a different method for that? I'm wanting to skin my whole car in it.
if your just wanting to skin your car I would just suggest using the 3m carbon wrap.
nice one, thanks
+Steve McIlroy no prob
The breather layer looks to be upholstery dacron. It's used on top of foam for surface smoothness, fill &/or shaping the upholstered item.
You will find it in couch cushions, throw pillows, and the like. Some sleep-type pillows are filled with dacron in a bulk form, rather than sheets.
yeah thats basically what it is
Thought so, and was hoping so. As much as I love to make fiberglass stuff, use epoxy to repair things, and have been 'itchiing' to do some carbon fiber, I cringe every time I use the stuff, because the entire world those two materials/processes are in, is so non-reusable/recyclable.
Pillows are landfill foder, so harvesting dacron from them for this is a great idea.
If we could just figure out what combination of plastics,to melt together to get epoxy, we'd have 'er dicked... LOL
Keep up the vids. you do a good job exposing guys to productivity increasing tools. Lifetime tools, if your viewers are smart.
I'm pushing 66, and still have lifetime tools I bought, or were given, as early as my teens.
They've given me good service, helped feed and clothe my kids, and still do the job they were intended for, whenever asked.
Thanks realy good.
thanks
Vac bag connect have new link?
nice video! very informative and detailed.
usually i see this.
host: *touches sealed cans of resin without gloves*
average comment section: *loses mind* YOU GON GET CANSURRRRR!
less so on videos with an expert presenter, not seeing it here. subbed!
tell me I'm wrong.
cool vid dude thanks
thanks
The link you put in for the pump is for the cup. Just a heads up
Thanks for the heads up...should be fixed now
Do you know if thee Resin is POLYESTER ?
Q2 if it is for Surface or for layup ???
you want to stay away from polyester unless the piece is just for looks.
Hopefully you can make a video doing it, I look forward to that.
I will at some point
I'm not building an airplane. All my thumbs up to you
Hi
Can you tell me about how to make a carbon fiber propeller of nearly 30 inches?
Thank you
no idea
hey man, so not to include the autoclave method, how strong is this process of carbon fiber? how much force can something like this take before it breaks?
depends on a ton of factors....thickness of fabric, amount of layers, type of resin. I have made intake manifolds, accessory brackets, and induction tubes that were all very strong with no autoclave. Really the autoclave method is only used for prepreg
how much did it cost all of that?
I have a 93 foxbody. Could I use my interior panels as base part to duplicate it in carbon fiber?
you could
Thanks for the speedy reply
been doing carbon stuff as needed for over a year...curious how do you get nice finished edges on parts with a core material? Also how do you incorporate fastenters into your parts or sealable flanges loke on valve covers?
props for exposing carbon to people. really just get a kit guys and play around. who doesnt like carbon fiber??
Great questions. I think flocking is the secret to getting good edges when using core materials. The way I would mount a fastener would be to use it in place of the core material.
Can I use my home vacuum machine that is used to vacuum food bags?
maybe....but I wouldn't recommend it. Really need something that can pull 20 inches of vacuum and hold it for a long period of time
any kend of voss vistion ?
I always call the "General Sealants gooey Stuff" Tacky Tape, that easy :D
lol
But in general I completly agree with you, doing/building something with carbon fibre isn't as complicated as it seems, but it has it's advantages and disadvantages, like lightweight, but expensive, easy to manufacture, but a lot of stuff to throw into the trash afterwards - especially with prepreg... Jeez thats a mess... Or gringing or cutting it afterwards... More than once I had a pretty bad itch after I was done, but thats nothing you can't get off with good warm shower :D
been waiting on this video how is it cutting and drilling this im thinking about building my own race quad frame u should build an sell quad frames kits killfab frames i would buy 1
It cuts and drills very similar to fiberglass. I have little interest in selling products...sorry
what grit do you sand it with to get the glossy carbon look?
if your mold is good it will come out glossy. if you need to sand you will will need to clear it
The Fab Forums sweet thanks!
Some of the links are no longer active
doing a hood with 2 layers of thick weave carbon.could not afford $1000 for material so im using 1/2 " core material for support & the hood has good structure. i hope this works. if you hear about a guy in canada hanging from his shop sealing over a mess of carbon fiber thats me XXXXX
lol
I do airplane carbon, dont use prepreg or autoclave. I make my own prepreg though for each job and I use Aeropoxy.
How long do you leave the vac pump on ?
I leave it on until it cures. If you have a good seal you can remover it once you have pulled the vacuum needed.
@The Fab Forums Lol hey Kyle, with the camera angle, doesn’t it look like your head is bigger than your body, then you have long Arms? 😂😂
Keep up the good work bro. I want to see more Carbon fiber stuff, because i don’t have a autoclave oven, is there a way to do it without the vacuum? Or oven? Let’s just say I want to do a fender, or bumper, or bash plate for a 4x4?
Also, you have to make a video working with the honeycomb cores, and go into some details on +45,90,-45. For specific applications.
yeah thats a wide angle lens for ya
great video, I understood it all, thanks for the repetitive instructions.
thanks. no problem
cool thanks!
no problem
What would you recommend for making a female mold that’s not crazy expensive??