I'm glad Hoederer is good. I was like "no way they go 3 for 3 on terrible crushers". They gave him exactly what he needed to function. Shelter, and Sustain.
Love how people keeps bringing up wafarin %hp healing for Hoederer but keeps ignoring Lumen who does the job very well maybe even better because he can heal Hoederer while simultaneously healing the others as well with his big range and faster atk speed and higher healing per hit, so instead of having a dedicated healer for him only and wasting a slot + missing out on the buff from wafarin s2 just use lumen who will be better like 80% of the time
Yeah, was surprised just how much faster Lumen was at refilling Hoe's hp compared to Warf on s1 that you'd assume would be more useful due to the high max hp.
I’m glad the stun is actually working better than I expected, I thought the skill would be borderline unuseable thanks to the long time between stuns, and the extra 50% damage from the extra block.
Would a ModX3 Shining with S2M3 be able to sustain him in these situations almost as well as your Lumen does? I'd already built Shining S2 in the past, so now I'm contemplating if the extra def that her module would give Hoed would be worth it, or if building up Lumen would just be better for him.
The extra defense would certainly help a lot more against regular mobs, making him not immediately die to dogs and stuff. But I’d say only do if if you really like Hoe, since he’s not really worth the cost of that.
You can get Shining's ModX or raise Lumen since you might need them for something later. But building them specifically for Hoederer is kinda a waste, unless you like him that much.
Since he blocks 3, he seems like a really good cadidate for using support guards on him instead of stacking a defender behind. Iirc there is one that heals the supported unit, so they could be a potent combo. I was hesitant at first, but block three is worth a lot the more I watch. Just checked and Pallas has a stun and a heal in her kit, so the synergy only grows.
It's an interesting idea, although Pallas heal is a bit low. The stun isn't that great since he's always benefiting from his own stun, but it can help survivability I suppose.
@@slonik0002 Isn't his own stun not long enough to proc his talent in S2? I figured he might get some lucky procs from Pallas stun lining up with his attacks.
@@slonik0002 ooh, good to know. I thought he might be in the same category as Erato who has bonuses against sleeping enemies but her S2 can't take advantage of it without help. That debuff tidbit is making me rethink some other interactions now, ty.
They still have high survivavility and do not depend on healer nearly as much as Hoe does, they attack faster and naturally have 3 blocks while Hoe only has 2 unless using s2. Basically Centurions excel at dealing with crowds of small to medium enemies but can struggle against the stronger elites, while Hoederer is the complete opposite.
Yes. Skadi Will give him DEF. Same with Shining. There's nothing actually making him stay at 0 DEF. He just has 0 DEF in his stats. so he can gain DEF from any DEF giving operator/artifact.
Stuns are applied first in arknights, so yes. an attack that stuns and does bonus dmg to stunned enemies benefits from its own stun, dealing the bonus dmg.
He hits like a truck. Truly a crusher that crushes.
Until he gets hit by a truck.
The crusher is trully crushing here
@@Zack_Zanderthat truck being a dog
And gets crushed himself
Welcome along with Chongyue and Exalter to the ranks of "laneholders that are also bosskillers"
Which is perfect for me as I plan to use them on the same team. AFKnights for the win!
who are also men
Oh wow, his talents are made to work together with Ines
Ines and W,
And Ethan too
Qiubai might also be nice
I kinda see a pattern where all former Reunion members can stun or bind like Hoederer, Ines, W, Mudrock, and Ethan
Next thing we know: Mod X - +30% ATK when U-Official is on the field lmao
I'm glad Hoederer is good. I was like "no way they go 3 for 3 on terrible crushers". They gave him exactly what he needed to function. Shelter, and Sustain.
and people already shitting on him before the number is out
yep basically giving hoederer a mountain treatment because ofc to make crusher good is to give them some sort of sustainibility
This is the True Power of the One True U-Official simp
*We sleepin on him*
A five-map showcase? You're spoiling us 😁
That sword swing sfx be CHUNKY. Holy shit.
Love how people keeps bringing up wafarin %hp healing for Hoederer but keeps ignoring Lumen who does the job very well maybe even better because he can heal Hoederer while simultaneously healing the others as well with his big range and faster atk speed and higher healing per hit, so instead of having a dedicated healer for him only and wasting a slot + missing out on the buff from wafarin s2 just use lumen who will be better like 80% of the time
Yeah, was surprised just how much faster Lumen was at refilling Hoe's hp compared to Warf on s1 that you'd assume would be more useful due to the high max hp.
He gets annoyed if you tell him to hold the door
I definitely like attack sound effects
I’m glad the stun is actually working better than I expected, I thought the skill would be borderline unuseable thanks to the long time between stuns, and the extra 50% damage from the extra block.
this guy will be a beast in IS3,4
imagine if we got the +stun duration artifact in early stages
Forget that, I wanna see the Spinach on S1. That thing hits for 6k on M3, and has 0 attack buffs to dilute it so spinach is super effective
Crazy how much stuns and shelter can increase his survival chances
Pretty strong! But damn he wants strong healers with S2
9:03 Hoederer slayer of 100
Ah okay, I saw his kit and was wondering where the shelter was. Knew it was in talent 2.
Crusher stuns the the defense crusher
Would a ModX3 Shining with S2M3 be able to sustain him in these situations almost as well as your Lumen does? I'd already built Shining S2 in the past, so now I'm contemplating if the extra def that her module would give Hoed would be worth it, or if building up Lumen would just be better for him.
The extra defense would certainly help a lot more against regular mobs, making him not immediately die to dogs and stuff. But I’d say only do if if you really like Hoe, since he’s not really worth the cost of that.
Bro just casually calling him hoe
You can get Shining's ModX or raise Lumen since you might need them for something later. But building them specifically for Hoederer is kinda a waste, unless you like him that much.
Since he blocks 3, he seems like a really good cadidate for using support guards on him instead of stacking a defender behind. Iirc there is one that heals the supported unit, so they could be a potent combo. I was hesitant at first, but block three is worth a lot the more I watch. Just checked and Pallas has a stun and a heal in her kit, so the synergy only grows.
It's an interesting idea, although Pallas heal is a bit low. The stun isn't that great since he's always benefiting from his own stun, but it can help survivability I suppose.
@@slonik0002 Isn't his own stun not long enough to proc his talent in S2? I figured he might get some lucky procs from Pallas stun lining up with his attacks.
@@tamurlane_aloia Debuffs are almost always applied before damage, so he always benefits from the stun. Without it he’d actually lose DPS by using S2.
@@slonik0002 ooh, good to know. I thought he might be in the same category as Erato who has bonuses against sleeping enemies but her S2 can't take advantage of it without help. That debuff tidbit is making me rethink some other interactions now, ty.
@@tamurlane_aloia The only one who applies the debuff after the damage is Suzuran to my knowledge, so she doesn’t benefit from her own Fragile.
Hoederer is just like mountain bosskiller version
So what happens now to the centurion subclass? If not for blaze' and gavial's unique skill they would've been scrapped by this guy
They still have high survivavility and do not depend on healer nearly as much as Hoe does, they attack faster and naturally have 3 blocks while Hoe only has 2 unless using s2.
Basically Centurions excel at dealing with crowds of small to medium enemies but can struggle against the stronger elites, while Hoederer is the complete opposite.
Okay what if Crusher Guard get module to make the operator more tanky and get heal after eliminate enemy
Module designers who've been screwing recent modules especially for 6* OPs that needs it the most: _How about no?_
If I place him near Skadi Alter with S2, does his def still at 0? Or Skadi add his defense proportional to her attack stats?
Yes. Skadi Will give him DEF. Same with Shining. There's nothing actually making him stay at 0 DEF. He just has 0 DEF in his stats. so he can gain DEF from any DEF giving operator/artifact.
@@DeathRusherYTI see, thanks for the answer dude
Does his 140% multiplier from 1st talent work just before hit?
Stuns are applied first in arknights, so yes. an attack that stuns and does bonus dmg to stunned enemies benefits from its own stun, dealing the bonus dmg.
Yes, it works just like W's skillset
@@ByteZaDustoand to add, same with all other status effects