Painting the way you describe is a luxury. For me it's usually, ok it's 4pm, I have 2 hours until I have to make dinner, get as much done in 2 hours as possible. Come back in 3 or 4 days and go again.
Oh ye for sure. We’re all in that boat. I just mean having something specific to try and achieve in that two hours usually drives my to be more productive.
Two boxes of Age of Darkness = 2 different Legions, 100 marines plus characters. This video helps tremendously. I hope I don’t give up. That’s wayyy too much $$ to abandon the project! Thanks!
I do exactly the same thing with the counting down getting through some of the more time consuming steps, after half you feel way more driven to get through it! Great advice!
Tbh the layering doesn’t look better to me then the pre-layer. That’s the beauty of warhammer, all our eyes work differently. I also count my models out like you before contrast, I took a 4 year break I was mentally not able to paint anymore, but now I’m back and loving the contrast. Just did an entire seraphon army in 7 hours!
I just painted a unit of Incubi last week. I spent at least as long on each model as you did on your entire unit. Your results show an extreme mastery over maximum impact for minimal time investment. From arms-length on a gaming table there's no way my Incubi look any better than your Sons of Horus. Up close, it's possible that they might, but it's crazy to me that you're able to get results that would make me question that under such time constraints.
Really good video and a great result :) Because you're not really using the contrast basecoats all that much it might be worth skipping the zenithal, opting for a mid-grey instead. Then just paint on the SOH green and use the contrast just to create your recess shade. Just a thought on how to condense it down for an even faster paintjob :)
Setting achievable goals is a super smart thing to do and not just for painting large groups of models. It works for basically anything in life. It makes a large thing look less daunting and prevents your brain from getting overwhelmed and stuck. On top of that: you get to pat yourself on the back every time you hit a goal, which feels nice and helps motivate you for moving towards the next step. It works because it works with how our brains like to do things. They like digestible little chunks and regularly being rewarded. As silly as it may sound, breaking things down is how we survived as cave people and it will be how we get our armies painted!
Haha cave men wouldn't know what to make of us painting little toy soldiers! but yes, hitting that dopamine every time you complete a set/squad is great. Nothing worse than getting to the end of a painting session and not feeling like you've made any progress at all. Thanks for taking the time to comment and explain it better than I could, really appreciate it!
Im late to this video but ive been thinking of starting a heresy army but still have so much to get done with other projects. This has showed me how effective contrast paints work though, and I'll be trying to implement them for my army painting
Honestly i was thinking the same I was looking to do squad of theese lads to mix into my black legion army. Im.trying for a fluffy army with some mixed in thousand sons and world eaters as well as some old dogs in the old school.heresy armour as they havent changed over yet
This was great. Love the tone you got for the green. Can I ask though - how thin was your SoH green? I find even on my wet pallette it's very opaque and doesn't allow the blue of the undercoat to come through!
they look amazing. i must admit i was skeptical of contrast type paints but i they achieve a decent tabletop result for little effort. i guess you could embellish character models with a bit of edge highlihting etc
That turquoise contrast paint looks like it goes on great! Can I ask why you put a layer of SoH green over the top at around 7:20? Doesn't that obscure the contrast paint? I'm still yet to use Contrast so not sure what the reasoning there was!
I'm having a lot of trouble with the layer up fase with SOH green, it comes of very lightly and brush strokes are easily visible. Is it just a case of adding a million layers?
Hey Andy, sorry to resurrect an hour of video for comments, but I was wondering if you could recall what size brush you use for all the base coat and contrast work?
I have a contrast paint video for a Black Templars dreadnought on my channel that might help answer this better, but yes it does work! Just be careful with the larger panels and make sure to use more contrast paint that you think you'll need so it dries okay!
Would also love to see this but not for the heresy era but it looks like doing the same thing but with Dark Angels Green contrast should work in the same way!
@@HeadCannonPrime seconded. The Contrast Colour Dark Angels Green has a very strong tint, with almost no saturation, it looks very muddy and unclear straight from the pot.
I just wish they had a true sons of horus contrast paint. Teradon torquoise just doesn't work for me on SoH, as its leaning to far into the blue, and not into the pale sea green that I so enjoy when seeing Sons of Horus usually. So unfortunately, Contrast doesn't seem to be a valid option for me here. Perhaps I'll have to give batchpainting the basecoat of the armor a go with an airbrush. Seems like the right tool for the job actually, as you can theoretically lay down a lot of even, smooth colors model for model in a relatively short amount of time, with great results even as a low skill airbrush user.
@@MediocreHobbies Yes, agreed. It is a steep investment for a tool that requires quite a bit of training and practice to get used to. Not everyone is willing or able to make this investment in both learning time and money, although I feel like once you have actually mastered it somewhat, it becomes invaluable.
Im always confused but why not paint then pin wash Seems like the same result but less work Normally contrast paint was intended for final layer with highlights ot glazes I didnt see much diff in priming then using dins of horus paint vs prime contrast then sons of horus paint
That’s totally cool if you want to stick to another method! Tutorials are here to help people, not tell them to change how they do things. Contrast paint can be used in any way, not just for the way it was originally designed for, Ive found a lot more used for it and enjoy this process so it’s what I do, but if you have your own process you enjoy, never feel the need to change!
Am I the only one having trouble painting the pauldron with the rounds? I get everything looking good, but that particular pauldron always comes out patchy and you can see the brush strokes.
Layering power armour like this is very inefficient. It would be much faster to drybrush the layer paint over the power armour before you paint all the other details.
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Painting the way you describe is a luxury. For me it's usually, ok it's 4pm, I have 2 hours until I have to make dinner, get as much done in 2 hours as possible. Come back in 3 or 4 days and go again.
Oh ye for sure. We’re all in that boat. I just mean having something specific to try and achieve in that two hours usually drives my to be more productive.
Ah, my issue as well. I'm a father 😂
Two boxes of Age of Darkness = 2 different Legions, 100 marines plus characters. This video helps tremendously. I hope I don’t give up. That’s wayyy too much $$ to abandon the project! Thanks!
Hahaha it is indeed. Make sure stick with it you will have a stunning army of you do.
Top video as usual. The result is very good, thanks!
Thanks pal.
Wow! I wish I knew this before! This method would have saved me so much time! Thank you!
No worries pal. Hope you can still use it.
I do exactly the same thing with the counting down getting through some of the more time consuming steps, after half you feel way more driven to get through it! Great advice!
It really helps right?! Thanks for the comment!
Strong play, that came out looking really well and in solid time.
Cheers, love the result too!
So thank you for this guide!
It was (is) very helpfull for me and my Horus Brothers
Your very welcome pal.
Love the speed painting videos, this is great 😁
Thanks so much man
Love the video. I just finished speed painting my Age of Darkness box, and I've decided I'm going to get a second one.
I’m tempted myself.
Me too. I couldn't help myself.
Setting a goal for a session. Is such a good and simple idea I never of thought of.
It really helps break things down, hope it helps!
Looks fantastic. I'll definitely be using this method on my sons of horus
That’s great to hear pal.
Tbh the layering doesn’t look better to me then the pre-layer. That’s the beauty of warhammer, all our eyes work differently. I also count my models out like you before contrast, I took a 4 year break I was mentally not able to paint anymore, but now I’m back and loving the contrast. Just did an entire seraphon army in 7 hours!
That’s ace dude. I’d love to see them. Did you post them anywhere?
Thanks again! Totally looking forward to trying out your World Eaters speed paint tutorial
Great to hear, thanks man
24 hour speed painting challenge soon? You'd kill it man!
There is a plan on the way...for 12 hours at least :D
That's fantastic looking. I can never get the right look zenithal highlighting with a rattle can like you did. Great stuff, love it.
little is more.
@@nicholaswalker4045 It really is. I've switched to just a quick drybrush with a cheap makeup brush for more control.
Not a bad way to do it. And it’s just kind of a practise thing. I still get it wrong sometimes but by the end of the paint job you barely notice.
I just painted a unit of Incubi last week. I spent at least as long on each model as you did on your entire unit. Your results show an extreme mastery over maximum impact for minimal time investment. From arms-length on a gaming table there's no way my Incubi look any better than your Sons of Horus. Up close, it's possible that they might, but it's crazy to me that you're able to get results that would make me question that under such time constraints.
Hahaha thank you. So many modes to do so little time. Gotta paint fast.
This is perfect for what I want to do!
Glad to hear pal.
The halfing the bolts is a great tip!
Cheers pal.
Great job
Thanks man
Oops work to do !! 10 Tactical beakies took me 6 + hours , thank you for the tips and tricks
No worries pal. Glad you liked it.
lovely stuff
Thanks so much! And thanks for watching!
Really good video and a great result :)
Because you're not really using the contrast basecoats all that much it might be worth skipping the zenithal, opting for a mid-grey instead.
Then just paint on the SOH green and use the contrast just to create your recess shade. Just a thought on how to condense it down for an even faster paintjob :)
Maybe it’s just me being so used to my method but your way sounds like more work lol.
Excellent! I panicked bought all the old Nuln I could!
Bahahahah of course you did lol
Setting achievable goals is a super smart thing to do and not just for painting large groups of models. It works for basically anything in life. It makes a large thing look less daunting and prevents your brain from getting overwhelmed and stuck. On top of that: you get to pat yourself on the back every time you hit a goal, which feels nice and helps motivate you for moving towards the next step.
It works because it works with how our brains like to do things. They like digestible little chunks and regularly being rewarded. As silly as it may sound, breaking things down is how we survived as cave people and it will be how we get our armies painted!
Haha cave men wouldn't know what to make of us painting little toy soldiers! but yes, hitting that dopamine every time you complete a set/squad is great. Nothing worse than getting to the end of a painting session and not feeling like you've made any progress at all.
Thanks for taking the time to comment and explain it better than I could, really appreciate it!
Im late to this video but ive been thinking of starting a heresy army but still have so much to get done with other projects. This has showed me how effective contrast paints work though, and I'll be trying to implement them for my army painting
Welcome to my whole channel 😄 everything here will hopefully help you speed up your painting so keep looking around for more videos!
Honestly i was thinking the same I was looking to do squad of theese lads to mix into my black legion army. Im.trying for a fluffy army with some mixed in thousand sons and world eaters as well as some old dogs in the old school.heresy armour as they havent changed over yet
This was great. Love the tone you got for the green. Can I ask though - how thin was your SoH green? I find even on my wet pallette it's very opaque and doesn't allow the blue of the undercoat to come through!
It is quite thin. The basecoat does show through a little but not a crazy amount.
they look amazing. i must admit i was skeptical of contrast type paints but i they achieve a decent tabletop result for little effort. i guess you could embellish character models with a bit of edge highlihting etc
Yes of course! Save time where you can and use it for your characters-that’s what I do as well!
This was a great tutourial, but could you yell me how you make turquise contrast so smooth? Mine always comes up patchy
It’s all about loading on more then you need and moving it around. Not scrapping the brush across the model.
That turquoise contrast paint looks like it goes on great! Can I ask why you put a layer of SoH green over the top at around 7:20? Doesn't that obscure the contrast paint? I'm still yet to use Contrast so not sure what the reasoning there was!
The contrast is the basecoat for me so starting the colour. And the layer is to get the colour where it need to be.
I'm having a lot of trouble with the layer up fase with SOH green, it comes of very lightly and brush strokes are easily visible. Is it just a case of adding a million layers?
Em I wasn’t having that problem. Mine was mostly one coat and a second on some of the higher or more important parts like shoulder pads.
did you use contrast medium for the basing? do you thin the gold or got it from the pot itself?
No medium was used. And maybe a touch of water for the gold but not much at all.
Much prefer the end results of this one than your other SoH paint tutorial.
Can I ask you what you liked more in this video.? I’m very curious as there all the same steps.
@@MediocreHobbies It might just be because the model is better. But I think the result has a nicer sea green color than the stumpier mk3.
I struggle to batch paint as well which is my biggest down fall 🤣
It’s everybody’s lol. Learning is important. Or we will never get through our backlog lol
Hey Andy, sorry to resurrect an hour of video for comments, but I was wondering if you could recall what size brush you use for all the base coat and contrast work?
Does this technique work well for vehicles also?
I have a contrast paint video for a Black Templars dreadnought on my channel that might help answer this better, but yes it does work! Just be careful with the larger panels and make sure to use more contrast paint that you think you'll need so it dries okay!
What color would you paint the crest for Word Bearers?
Black or gold I guess what symbol are you talking about specifically?
@@MediocreHobbies the Sgt's helmet crest or plume? Whatever you'd call it
Man I wish there was a speed paint method for dark angels. Any tips?
There is in my legion playlist. Check it out and let me know what you think.
Would also love to see this but not for the heresy era but it looks like doing the same thing but with Dark Angels Green contrast should work in the same way!
@@Biggabertha dark angels green contrast is utter shite. I would try absolution green from army painter.
@@HeadCannonPrime seconded. The Contrast Colour Dark Angels Green has a very strong tint, with almost no saturation, it looks very muddy and unclear straight from the pot.
Are you using the turquoise neat or slightly diluted with medium?
Neat pal. Straight from the pot. Well pallet.
@@MediocreHobbies thanks for responding:)
how would this look over black primer
You can’t sue contrast over a dark base. It won’t do anything expect waste your paint models and time. You need a bright base.
@@MediocreHobbies thank you!
I just wish they had a true sons of horus contrast paint. Teradon torquoise just doesn't work for me on SoH, as its leaning to far into the blue, and not into the pale sea green that I so enjoy when seeing Sons of Horus usually. So unfortunately, Contrast doesn't seem to be a valid option for me here.
Perhaps I'll have to give batchpainting the basecoat of the armor a go with an airbrush. Seems like the right tool for the job actually, as you can theoretically lay down a lot of even, smooth colors model for model in a relatively short amount of time, with great results even as a low skill airbrush user.
That is indeed all true. It’s just not a tool everybody has.
@@MediocreHobbies Yes, agreed. It is a steep investment for a tool that requires quite a bit of training and practice to get used to. Not everyone is willing or able to make this investment in both learning time and money, although I feel like once you have actually mastered it somewhat, it becomes invaluable.
Im always confused but why not paint then pin wash
Seems like the same result but less work
Normally contrast paint was intended for final layer with highlights ot glazes
I didnt see much diff in priming then using dins of horus paint vs prime contrast then sons of horus paint
That’s totally cool if you want to stick to another method! Tutorials are here to help people, not tell them to change how they do things. Contrast paint can be used in any way, not just for the way it was originally designed for, Ive found a lot more used for it and enjoy this process so it’s what I do, but if you have your own process you enjoy, never feel the need to change!
Am I the only one having trouble painting the pauldron with the rounds? I get everything looking good, but that particular pauldron always comes out patchy and you can see the brush strokes.
Is there a purple speed paint ?
There is indeed.
@@MediocreHobbies well don’t keep it a secret
Tell us all !!
Mymeara
some day!
Layering power armour like this is very inefficient. It would be much faster to drybrush the layer paint over the power armour before you paint all the other details.
It probably would! I’m used to this style of painting though so it never feels slow to me!
It’s a very different look you would achieve. And I prefer how this looks.
This stopped being a Speed paint video the moment you start layering each panel in the armor. Good cause I hate speed painting videos.
Hahaha I think a squad of 10 guys in three hours counts as a speed paint lol. And if you hate speed paints why did you click? I’m so confused lol