2: People are mixed up about this, and honestly, I was too. Bailey Sok is *just their choreographer.* I really wanted her to debut because I was all set to make her my bias!
Just cuz they are in same grp doesnt mean they know each other's extra private lifes...but at the same time it can be the opposite too. But bruh many times even the people closest to u, whom u think u know everything about, turn out to be f1lthy humans..
1. Right, thats just diverting from the actual topic... the other members may or may not have known. We cant just assume they did and start petitions or smth to get the members investigated too. If they have a hand in it, it will come out in no time, but atkeast dont make assumptions and whatnot
3: Since when did having a relationship become the equivalent of being in a crime investigation? My man was put on a hiatus for having a gf. That is it. The comparisons is such a STRETCH
I thought it was because his girlfriend was underage ? She was 17 and he was already 18-19 or something when they went to a motel… Don’t quote me on that though, I just read it somewhere. Dunno if it’s true, but I thought this was the reason why he was put on hiatus, not simply just because he had a girlfriend.
@OnlyLilynn44 i don't really know the details of his scandal so i cannot say if he's wrong or right but i was justing commenting about those riize stans that are bringing him into something that has nothing to do with him
2. I kinda figured that Bailey wouldn’t be in the lineup. On top of being a trainee, not too informed on that, but the girl has had a successful dance career, choreographing for some of the biggest groups in KPop and is well loved in the dance world as a whole. I never saw this as a move for her. 4. Literally give it tf up. People need to stop trying to make their own version of villain or underdog stories out of these idols. They moved on. Talking about this even more could lead to conflict in the group and honestly they don’t need that when they’ve had a pretty good footing so far
2.Honestly just cause she's from a influential background doesn't mean she's not takenyor that she doesn't have dreams maybe it's just as simple that she wanna be an idol .
yes but she like from one of the crazy rich families in south korea, imagine if the grand daughter of the british royal family decided to make music people would definitely think that they were paying for her success. of course i believe she genuinely wants to be an idol but it’s just too much pressure to debut someone like that
@@stduupie just cause she's rich doesn't make it right for people to tell anyone to do anything they love I can't even imagine leaving my OWN dream just cause of some insecure people
1: We can’t just assume the other members are in the loop about this, but considering this is now the second NCT member caught up in something like this, it’s not surprising that people might say, “The police should probably check out the other members too.” When these things start happening repeatedly, it’s only natural for people to get suspicious and wonder if there’s more going on with the whole group. It’s understandable that fans and the public might start asking questions or even expect some kind of broader investigation. But then again, it would sound a bit baseless. I pray no other member is involved in this...that would be TOO MUCH for NCTzens
Who was the other member caught up in strange things? , I don't think he's the riize member, I understand that such a group no longer belongs to the NCT world or I'm wrong? 😅
We need to have a group meet as kpop stans cus how this whole situation is being treated is horrible. Idk why other fandoms are jumping in saying “I hope my fave don’t do this”. Like it’s not about you. I don’t know why y’all using this for fanwars and using this to hate on NCT or invalidate TAEIL skills. I don’t know why this is about everyone else BUT THE VICTIM. I’m more concerned about how she is doing cus this is wild and the second the public find out who she is it’s gonna be ugly. We need to focus on the victim of this situation along with talking about how Korean women are struggling but y’all don’t care unless it’s ur fave or a celeb is involved and even when ur fav is involved or a celebrity y’all still don’t care about the victims.
5: i kinda disagree with that. Yes she's incredibly popular but when it comes to streaming her music everyone disappears after a week. Free falling on charts, it's sad to see. Most of them are just casual listeners not actual fans. It's about building a loyal fanbase that will support u. A lot of ppl in the west do not care abt her. She can def do promotions like GQ and in VOGUE to break into the US. Anyone can break records and but i believe stability is the key to success. A lot of popular celebrities also promote in various strategies even though they're famous. Promotions should be short but effective, that's the point. She can do even better with more promotions!
3. Seunghan is probably not coming back or he will get Lucas treatment. I think Chanyeol sued the liars and his situation makes me not believe these victims anymore. 4. Because fans are soft. 5. I don't know how can someone listen to Lisa's music without being forced to. She's doing good because her fans are used to listen to shits. 8. Aren't sasaeng just paparazzi? If not, both are equally disgusting. 9. I like his solo debut. He is my ultimate bias alongside Momo and I want to support him + he is cool guy.
i hate people who act like they've never heard of music tastes (you) YOU don't like Lisa's music but that doesn't make it bad, others who listen to or like it have a DIFFERENT music taste. They have opinions, no one's forcing YOU to keep listening to her goddamn
I would love to see you talk about the unnecessary hate new fifty fifty is getting over starry night cus people are saying it’s a SHEIN knockoff of the og members… 💀 (P.S. For kpop stans who think this way let me remind you it’s fine to boycott but it’s not cute to hate on the new members. They did nothing wrong.)
The hate against the NCT members is so disgusting. I can't imagine their shock and how hurt they must feel at this moment. My boys will get through this😢😞
I didn't hear about the rumors of Bailey being cut. I literally thought her trailer would be the grand finale, so I was disappointed when it wasn't her. Wishful thinking... I didn't bash the other girls though. That's just pointless.
Bailey Sok is an excellent dancer, But just cause she choreographed for K-pop groups does not make her K-pop idol material and people don't get it. She already has a career set in stone for her, and how difficult it is to understand that. Going around and spreading malicious comments about other members will not do good to anybody. In Teddy's choice we trust, I mean come on this man has created banger music forever. If he chose this lineup, it simply means that these girls have what Teddy needs to make them a star. At this point, fans really need to grow up.
"Banger music" you mean repetitive recycled sounds over and over again , bruh let's not fool ourselves , Teddy is not that creative and we've seen that while he was working with Blackpink
@@Kitty_missss have you ever considered the fact that YG wanted wanted a specific style for blackpink and wanted to stick with that cause by the end of the day YG chooses how his groups music sounds. He never gave blackpink or their producers the artistic freedom they deserved.
4. Ummm no absolutely not. Saying Manon didn't take the program seriously/was slacking off was DEFINITELY reaching. And even though I do agree that the girls shouldn't at all get hate for this, let's not sweep that under the rug like they weren't being passive aggressive towards her and talking about her behind her back which was not at all justified. Let's stop acting like Manon was just this lazy girl who didn't ever gaf and her colleagues got tired of her because that was not the case. If we're gonna hold people accountable in this situation, then hold everyone accountable.
5. Agree, but Lisa is still more well-known in the Kpop bubble, yes she has fans in the West but the GP doen´t know her, so she should go on interviews in the US, make videos for Vogue, GQ and more, for me it seems that they aren´t trying as hard to track the bubble, they need more.
3. insane...netz r like lost sheeps atp.. What connection do these two scandals even have. On one side, its a "punishment" for dating, and on the other side is a literal cr1me wtf
Who’s saying Lisa isn’t doing well?? She charted #97 and #70 on billboard hot 100 with new woman and rockstar, has the most viewed kpop solo of 2024, 21M+ monthly listeners on Spotify, her follower count on LLOUD has been rising more and more each day and new woman has been trending for its dance challenge.
@@Arielaarmy-k7i rockstar: 169M views New woman: 59M views Who: 41M views I’m no math teacher but as someone with common logic I’m aware that one hundred and sixty-nine million is a greater number than forty-one million.
Well she can do better. Well I'm not forcing that. She can promote her songs more rather than mere dance challenges. A lot of ppl don't care abt her in the west. It's about building a loyal fanbase not casual listeners. If she promotes a bit more then she will definitely do better! I think she might need time to get on her track but I believe that she's capable of it.
@@Dalgomismine1 😂😂are you talking about the youtube paid ads and bot views 😂😂the fact that blackpink always has a lot of views on youtube and never charts is crazy. Jimin who was number 1 charting song in more than 50 countries including Malaysia china,Japan, Canada etc and got 50M+ who spotify listener's and who literally got number 2 on billboard hot 100 and number 1 on Billboard Hot 200 including and excluding us. 😂😂Even stray kids charted better than Rockstar with number 4 on billboard and 6 on billboard album and wait jimin album MUSE became best selling in Europe, Asia and even in USA and became number 1 album on billboard .😂😂Lisa has been working hard with the youtube bots and ads forgetting to pay billboard Rockstar was not even in billboard top 10😂😂blinks trying too hard with youtube
@@jin_xlmv wdym she can do better that was her highest ever billboard charting, highest first day Spotify entry, 2nd highest 24 hours on TH-cam entry. She has quite literally done better
1 _ thank you so much for saying that Like for real if any other member was doing the same sm wouldn't wait and would kick him out as tail Also ( tails closest friend with over 17 years didn't know about it) Besides there are 25 members you can't drag all of them just because one member
@@larizasalvador1844 thank you like this industry is about music not dance, yes there should be dance but the main requirement is your voice being good wether rap or vocal you need to be able to sing.
1.Exactly i agree with you NCT are not all guilty we only know about Taeils controversy but not about the other members stop bringing the whole group just because of the careless Taeil .
2.I was also searching why some of them didn't debut but i think those two Bailey Shok and the other one Anney moon ,about Bailey sadly because she's not idol material from her visuals maybe I'm not judging her but i think theblacklabel choose only those who look like models and about the other one because she's called nepotism baby .
Don't know if he decides to as they say "sing like a canary" he not going to go down by himself. It will be better for fans to prepare mentally because pandoras box is about to be opened.
1. Burning Sun 2.0.. knowing South Korea, if found guilty, Taeil will get a slap on a wrist and serve little prison time. 2. Badvillian 2.0... Bunch of rich spoiled brats that become idols. 4. Bunch of CO-WORKERS who hate each other that act like they love each other on camera. 5. I don't care what people say, Lisa doesn't have what it takes to become a music artist. She is more of an actress.
Lisa is neither a musical artist nor an actress. She's a performer. She can dance and has good facial expressions and energy, that is it. She has never been a good singer nor rapper, and isn't creative with her music. Acting as well, nothing stands out there. I think she's best suited to dancing, modelling, and influencer works. They all come under more performance works, which are better suited to her.
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5. I disagree variety shows and interviews are content given to fans when they want to see there favs its not about getting popularity from them yes sometimes it is but as u said lisa is a famous kpop idol and her fams are asking for those shows bc they want to see her content so her fans arent whining
6.She's trynna go for the western market but she isn't even promoting there 💀 and you do promotion stuff for you fans so we can't really force her to do that cause she knows her fans gonna eat whatever she's gonna give them
The thing about Lisa is yes she can promote but she knows her fans. She knows they do the promo for her. She drops some concept photos or a teaser and it’s everywhere till the song comes out.
2: People are mixed up about this, and honestly, I was too. Bailey Sok is *just their choreographer.* I really wanted her to debut because I was all set to make her my bias!
Oh so she’s only going to choreograph for them ? Boooo.
I was so excited 😢
I too was set on making her my bias. Ugh
Just cuz they are in same grp doesnt mean they know each other's extra private lifes...but at the same time it can be the opposite too. But bruh many times even the people closest to u, whom u think u know everything about, turn out to be f1lthy humans..
From an investigative perspective,i think that the police will.If theyre innocent then theyll be fine if not then yo prison they go....
1. Right, thats just diverting from the actual topic... the other members may or may not have known. We cant just assume they did and start petitions or smth to get the members investigated too.
If they have a hand in it, it will come out in no time, but atkeast dont make assumptions and whatnot
This is what I have been saying to those toxic kpop stans, more like toxic gg stans
3: Since when did having a relationship become the equivalent of being in a crime investigation? My man was put on a hiatus for having a gf. That is it. The comparisons is such a STRETCH
they're tryna buy sympathy for seunghan(?) "look at what ##### did but seunghan still isn't back 😢😢😢" he might not come back, drop it
I thought it was because his girlfriend was underage ? She was 17 and he was already 18-19 or something when they went to a motel…
Don’t quote me on that though, I just read it somewhere. Dunno if it’s true, but I thought this was the reason why he was put on hiatus, not simply just because he had a girlfriend.
@OnlyLilynn44 i don't really know the details of his scandal so i cannot say if he's wrong or right but i was justing commenting about those riize stans that are bringing him into something that has nothing to do with him
@@OnlyLilynn44that was debunked they were both minors
2. I kinda figured that Bailey wouldn’t be in the lineup. On top of being a trainee, not too informed on that, but the girl has had a successful dance career, choreographing for some of the biggest groups in KPop and is well loved in the dance world as a whole. I never saw this as a move for her.
4. Literally give it tf up. People need to stop trying to make their own version of villain or underdog stories out of these idols. They moved on. Talking about this even more could lead to conflict in the group and honestly they don’t need that when they’ve had a pretty good footing so far
4: All I will say is that: They released it too early in their careers and it was the wrong target audience.
2.Honestly just cause she's from a influential background doesn't mean she's not takenyor that she doesn't have dreams maybe it's just as simple that she wanna be an idol .
yes but she like from one of the crazy rich families in south korea, imagine if the grand daughter of the british royal family decided to make music people would definitely think that they were paying for her success. of course i believe she genuinely wants to be an idol but it’s just too much pressure to debut someone like that
@@stduupie just cause she's rich doesn't make it right for people to tell anyone to do anything they love I can't even imagine leaving my OWN dream just cause of some insecure people
1: We can’t just assume the other members are in the loop about this, but considering this is now the second NCT member caught up in something like this, it’s not surprising that people might say, “The police should probably check out the other members too.” When these things start happening repeatedly, it’s only natural for people to get suspicious and wonder if there’s more going on with the whole group. It’s understandable that fans and the public might start asking questions or even expect some kind of broader investigation. But then again, it would sound a bit baseless. I pray no other member is involved in this...that would be TOO MUCH for NCTzens
Who was the other member caught up in strange things? , I don't think he's the riize member, I understand that such a group no longer belongs to the NCT world or I'm wrong? 😅
@@ENEIDAG24 lucas
@@dontcrosstheline-skz-oneus Lucas was proven innocent
@@Xqxzci lmao i just tell name of member who was gotten in scandal not saying anything
they just ask about name
We need to have a group meet as kpop stans cus how this whole situation is being treated is horrible. Idk why other fandoms are jumping in saying “I hope my fave don’t do this”. Like it’s not about you. I don’t know why y’all using this for fanwars and using this to hate on NCT or invalidate TAEIL skills. I don’t know why this is about everyone else BUT THE VICTIM.
I’m more concerned about how she is doing cus this is wild and the second the public find out who she is it’s gonna be ugly. We need to focus on the victim of this situation along with talking about how Korean women are struggling but y’all don’t care unless it’s ur fave or a celeb is involved and even when ur fav is involved or a celebrity y’all still don’t care about the victims.
We desperately need a fandom cleanse
@@yongbokrr_NOEASY THISS
How come Katseye doesn’t have safety shorts under their short outfits ? Is it because they’re foreigners ?
5: i kinda disagree with that. Yes she's incredibly popular but when it comes to streaming her music everyone disappears after a week. Free falling on charts, it's sad to see. Most of them are just casual listeners not actual fans. It's about building a loyal fanbase that will support u. A lot of ppl in the west do not care abt her. She can def do promotions like GQ and in VOGUE to break into the US. Anyone can break records and but i believe stability is the key to success. A lot of popular celebrities also promote in various strategies even though they're famous. Promotions should be short but effective, that's the point. She can do even better with more promotions!
3. Seunghan is probably not coming back or he will get Lucas treatment. I think Chanyeol sued the liars and his situation makes me not believe these victims anymore.
4. Because fans are soft.
5. I don't know how can someone listen to Lisa's music without being forced to. She's doing good because her fans are used to listen to shits.
8. Aren't sasaeng just paparazzi? If not, both are equally disgusting.
9. I like his solo debut. He is my ultimate bias alongside Momo and I want to support him + he is cool guy.
Since when Sasaengs are paparazzi lmao, they are rich crazy stalkers nothing more💀
@@BELIEVER78989 arent paparazzi stalkers alike
i hate people who act like they've never heard of music tastes (you) YOU don't like Lisa's music but that doesn't make it bad, others who listen to or like it have a DIFFERENT music taste. They have opinions, no one's forcing YOU to keep listening to her goddamn
@@sanainthesky her music is really really bad and that's a fact not opinion
Ay just wonder what your favorit is 😊
1.I hope taeil goes to jail for all the disgusting shit he's done
Leave my man out of your mouth
@@X..y2mjn😬😬😬😬yikes
@@X..y2mjn brotha ew what the hell you talking about
@@X..y2mjnNah. “YoUr MaN” should LEAVE.
2. No one instigated nor confirmed anything, they were just trainees so fans thought they would debut with their own hope
I would love to see you talk about the unnecessary hate new fifty fifty is getting over starry night cus people are saying it’s a SHEIN knockoff of the og members… 💀
(P.S. For kpop stans who think this way let me remind you it’s fine to boycott but it’s not cute to hate on the new members. They did nothing wrong.)
The hate against the NCT members is so disgusting. I can't imagine their shock and how hurt they must feel at this moment. My boys will get through this😢😞
Damn now i feel stupid for thinking bailey would debut. The chances were pretty low, but my fan girl ahh saw past that
I didn't hear about the rumors of Bailey being cut. I literally thought her trailer would be the grand finale, so I was disappointed when it wasn't her. Wishful thinking...
I didn't bash the other girls though. That's just pointless.
Bailey Sok is an excellent dancer, But just cause she choreographed for K-pop groups does not make her K-pop idol material and people don't get it. She already has a career set in stone for her, and how difficult it is to understand that. Going around and spreading malicious comments about other members will not do good to anybody. In Teddy's choice we trust, I mean come on this man has created banger music forever. If he chose this lineup, it simply means that these girls have what Teddy needs to make them a star. At this point, fans really need to grow up.
"Banger music" you mean repetitive recycled sounds over and over again , bruh let's not fool ourselves , Teddy is not that creative and we've seen that while he was working with Blackpink
@@Kitty_missssbanger music means successful and superhit
And just because you don't like it's music it doesn't mean others will not like it
@@Kitty_missss have you ever considered the fact that YG wanted wanted a specific style for blackpink and wanted to stick with that cause by the end of the day YG chooses how his groups music sounds. He never gave blackpink or their producers the artistic freedom they deserved.
4. Ummm no absolutely not. Saying Manon didn't take the program seriously/was slacking off was DEFINITELY reaching. And even though I do agree that the girls shouldn't at all get hate for this, let's not sweep that under the rug like they weren't being passive aggressive towards her and talking about her behind her back which was not at all justified. Let's stop acting like Manon was just this lazy girl who didn't ever gaf and her colleagues got tired of her because that was not the case. If we're gonna hold people accountable in this situation, then hold everyone accountable.
5. Agree, but Lisa is still more well-known in the Kpop bubble, yes she has fans in the West but the GP doen´t know her, so she should go on interviews in the US, make videos for Vogue, GQ and more, for me it seems that they aren´t trying as hard to track the bubble, they need more.
3. insane...netz r like lost sheeps atp..
What connection do these two scandals even have. On one side, its a "punishment" for dating, and on the other side is a literal cr1me wtf
Who’s saying Lisa isn’t doing well?? She charted #97 and #70 on billboard hot 100 with new woman and rockstar, has the most viewed kpop solo of 2024, 21M+ monthly listeners on Spotify, her follower count on LLOUD has been rising more and more each day and new woman has been trending for its dance challenge.
No stop lying jimin who is the most viewed kpop solo of 2024 with over 50M+😂
@@Arielaarmy-k7i
rockstar: 169M views
New woman: 59M views
Who: 41M views
I’m no math teacher but as someone with common logic I’m aware that one hundred and sixty-nine million is a greater number than forty-one million.
Well she can do better. Well I'm not forcing that. She can promote her songs more rather than mere dance challenges. A lot of ppl don't care abt her in the west. It's about building a loyal fanbase not casual listeners. If she promotes a bit more then she will definitely do better! I think she might need time to get on her track but I believe that she's capable of it.
@@Dalgomismine1 😂😂are you talking about the youtube paid ads and bot views 😂😂the fact that blackpink always has a lot of views on youtube and never charts is crazy.
Jimin who was number 1 charting song in more than 50 countries including Malaysia china,Japan, Canada etc and got 50M+ who spotify listener's and who literally got number 2 on billboard hot 100 and number 1 on Billboard Hot 200 including and excluding us.
😂😂Even stray kids charted better than Rockstar with number 4 on billboard and 6 on billboard album and wait jimin album MUSE became best selling in Europe, Asia and even in USA and became number 1 album on billboard .😂😂Lisa has been working hard with the youtube bots and ads forgetting to pay billboard Rockstar was not even in billboard top 10😂😂blinks trying too hard with youtube
@@jin_xlmv wdym she can do better that was her highest ever billboard charting, highest first day Spotify entry, 2nd highest 24 hours on TH-cam entry. She has quite literally done better
1 _ thank you so much for saying that
Like for real if any other member was doing the same sm wouldn't wait and would kick him out as tail
Also ( tails closest friend with over 17 years didn't know about it)
Besides there are 25 members you can't drag all of them just because one member
6: I hope Fuko debuts!!!!
I do too. Like either she can pull a bang jeemin herself or a company snatched her up already.
@@AUGHHHHHBBG Literally😂😂😂
Bailey will prob be their choreography idk if she can sing we know she can dance but kpop is about singing right??
Finally someone. Like I don’t care if she's the best dancer in the whole industry all I care if she can sing
@@larizasalvador1844 thank you like this industry is about music not dance, yes there should be dance but the main requirement is your voice being good wether rap or vocal you need to be able to sing.
5: Who said she wasn't? She looks completely fine!
Girlllllys Did hear you le sserafim crazy?
I love it❤
1.Exactly i agree with you NCT are not all guilty we only know about Taeils controversy but not about the other members stop bringing the whole group just because of the careless Taeil .
8- finally someone said that. You are right, International fans does have superiority complex and act like saints
2.I was also searching why some of them didn't debut but i think those two Bailey Shok and the other one Anney moon ,about Bailey sadly because she's not idol material from her visuals maybe I'm not judging her but i think theblacklabel choose only those who look like models and about the other one because she's called nepotism baby .
Don't know if he decides to as they say "sing like a canary" he not going to go down by himself. It will be better for fans to prepare mentally because pandoras box is about to be opened.
LESSERAFIM "CRAZY" Review?
1. Burning Sun 2.0.. knowing South Korea, if found guilty, Taeil will get a slap on a wrist and serve little prison time. 2. Badvillian 2.0... Bunch of rich spoiled brats that become idols. 4. Bunch of CO-WORKERS who hate each other that act like they love each other on camera. 5. I don't care what people say, Lisa doesn't have what it takes to become a music artist. She is more of an actress.
Can't even say an actress she hasn't shown much I would much rather say an insta influencer (no shade though)
"Rich spoiled kids" how exactly did u come to that conclusion🥴
@gojo_ki_pooookie I have the same thought😶
Lisa is neither a musical artist nor an actress. She's a performer. She can dance and has good facial expressions and energy, that is it.
She has never been a good singer nor rapper, and isn't creative with her music. Acting as well, nothing stands out there.
I think she's best suited to dancing, modelling, and influencer works. They all come under more performance works, which are better suited to her.
“Bunch of rich spoiled brats that became idols” the bitterness, the pettiness, and maybe the sudden jealousy is so entertaining! 🤪😂😂
FUKO PLS DEBUTTTTTTTT
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THANK YOU for 8
But Katseye be so cringe loll ...I'm astounded as to how you can become a fan
5. LISA ❤ doing fine 😊.
7. Chungha ❤.i m Ready is Bop.😊
5. I disagree variety shows and interviews are content given to fans when they want to see there favs its not about getting popularity from them yes sometimes it is but as u said lisa is a famous kpop idol and her fams are asking for those shows bc they want to see her content so her fans arent whining
6.She's trynna go for the western market but she isn't even promoting there 💀 and you do promotion stuff for you fans so we can't really force her to do that cause she knows her fans gonna eat whatever she's gonna give them
Her fans are used to shits like Rockstar and Lalisa
You completely missed the point 💀
Really? 🤔
The thing about Lisa is yes she can promote but she knows her fans. She knows they do the promo for her. She drops some concept photos or a teaser and it’s everywhere till the song comes out.
That isn’t really the point….