@@sobrevalorado the rules say that someo0ne who is not part of the attack cannot be offside. Dumpfries wasnt a part of it since he didnt touch the ball itself. You clearly dont know the rules yourself. It was a 100% goal and the obstruction part is just an excuse.
As was this match. England weren’t involved. Fairly cringe of you to try to involve us. Pretty embarrassing, one click on your pfp and every comment is mentioning England. Utter whopper.
Hmmm... demolish us with their prolific scoring? Playing in an open game with no pressing, although tbf they did actually shoot which is more than England.
Frank has always been an honest man he was happy when Cristiano Ronaldo won 2016 Euro Cup and Messi won 2022 World Cup despite both won against France in the Final
This was not a boring match! Not all 0-0s are poor. There were parts that weren't great but the defending from both teams was good to watch. It definitely had it's moments too with France going after them towards the end and the disallowed goal for Netherlands.
If this offside goal was the other way around, the refs would've turned a blind eye and everyone knows it. I'm sure Anthony Taylor and the VAR team got a nice pay check after this game
Frank Lebeauf is right about the fact that the goal of Xavi should not have been disallowed. A player can only interfere with the game when the ball is in play. Anything that could possibly be interpreted as interference between Dumfries and Maignan happened after the ball assed the goalline and is therefore not relevant. Craig Burnley completely ignores this crucial point.
The rules don't care about whether the ball is in play, or whether the ball is heading towards goals. If a player kicks the ball away from the penalty area and is then fouled afterwards, when the ball is halfway headed towards the middle of the park, it's a penalty. It's insanity, but them's the rules
Holland has a gigantic defensive line and scoring against them is tough for any team. France have speedy attackers that have to get behind the defense but its not happening. Simple
The man on the right has no positive word about the Netherlands.. the france played better but did not score! The netherlands scored and got robbed. The france played better but should have lossed
I disagree I thought it was a fascinating game from BOTH TEAMS.. . their analysis was harsh .both quality teams. France proved they can break down high quality opposition without kyliann mbappe.. unlucky with their finishing
They sound like French fan boys, yes France is good but you cant discredit how well the Netherlands played. They really are the dark horses this tournament
France have played poorly and still won or played well in competitions pretty recently, so that’s why they still back France to achieve something, it’s not rocket science. The Dutch on the other hand have to prove themselves before they get the benefit of the doubt simple
The goalkeeper had all the room in the world AND dumfries wasnt obstructing his view. The keeper didnt even go for the ball and even if he had dimfries wouldnt have been in the way since he was to the left and in front of him. Absolutely clear goal got disallowed
These guys watching a match for the first time? Goal or not doesn’t even matter, it was a high level game. Not great to watch but obviously 2 very strong teams.
The fifa generation. If the game ain’t 5-5 with a penalty shoot out , it isn’t good. But this is for the casual fan, so that’s what they promote. That game was awesome. Kante and tchouimeni and Saliba looked magnificent. Gakpo and reijnders also impressed
What are these pundits on about? Not trying to show my bias here as a Dutchman but in the repeat, from the side you could see there was space for Maignan to dive back to the goal near the line, which is what goalkeepers tend to do when they try to save long shots aimed at the corners of the goal. He also had clear vision on the trajectory of the ball, but barely recovered from the save prior. Dumfries was standing motionless, not behind Maignan (which would have been obstruction), but a bit in front of him and at least one meter away to his side. That leaves plenty of space for Maignan to dive. So I don't understand the claim that Maignan has nowhere to go. He just realized he wasn't in time to collect himself after that deflection and make a consecutive save. The attempt was also accurately placed. So he just made an appeal to the refs to disallow the goal. There was no response from the keeper, no answer, and certainly he knew where the ball was going looking out into the box and seeing Simons readying a second attempt.
@@photographyisnotacrime7300 And I'll be the first to admit it wasn't a great game and France probably should have won. Had you asked me before the match if I would be OK with the points being split I would have settled for that, absolutely without a doubt... And I still feel satisfied with the result. But I'm also left with a bit of a bad taste in my mouth, given what it could mean for the eventual outcome in the group and the eventual match-ups for the eighth finals. Austria is no slouch either.
Yeah he stood motionless and immediately complained when the shot went in.. take a step back and make the dive.. and anyone who’s saying it was a call for obstructing the keeper’s line if sight is lying to themselves look at the positioning ffs
Anyone who thinks that was a valid offside has no sense of football. The goalkeeper was totally beaten. Dumfries being there or not it would have gone in, he was not standing in the way and he made no movement towards the ball. Add in that it took them so long to decide. It's not hard to judge of someone is offside or not. If it takes you 3 min to decide whether it was offside then the goal should just be allowed because all they're doing at that point is trying to rationalize the offside when it clearly isn't.
Except there's a huge hole in your argument: Dumfries was offside before Simmons touched the ball so the line referee should have whistled before the strike
I want to congratulate not only UEFA, but also the European organizations and the European fans, as a Brazilian, I can say with all the doubts that you provided with this Euro, a true world cup experience, honestly, everything was impeccable, the parties, the rules in place, the beautiful game, the players, it really looked like a World Cup, I hope you maintain this level of beauty in 2024, so the world will have the pleasure of being able to witness a biennial World Cup 😁😁😁🇧🇷 🇪🇺
I don't know what people are so high on Dembele? The comments Frank made about the way he plays is something I have watched every time I have seen him play. He's all flash and no end product!
On my opinion, netherlands could do better but they defended their side well. France took far too many long shots. It wasn't boring though... Very interesting game! Both have proven themselves, let's see how it goes. Netherlands must become bolder.
Instead of being honest about France's poor displays in and leading up to the tournament people look for excuses. They've been far from convincing. Instead Germany and Italy get put under a microscope, and in the case of the English and the french its excuses galore.
He is hindering, it's an active off side. See it as a whole, the whole team can reacts differently if a player is behind. And are you aware that if the Dutch player is positionned more on the left or even on side, he can block the strike.
What this game was really proof of is that the new 3th place rule is just boring... Another adjustment to an already perfect tournament Both teams were fine with a 1-1 and it showed
Experts are not supposed to think emotionally. Rules are rules and if you can't accept them, keep crying. France dominated the Netherlands for most of the match and so the draw was deserved and if any country deserved more than the draw, it was France. And I'm not French but I'm not one of those who hate France.
It was not a boring game... Only England games are boring... Both teams created chances to win the game... Netherlands goal should have stood only English refree can predict the future that Maignan pulls out a world class save to stop that shot
"It was boring because after 60 minutes we know it was going to be a nil-nil draw." Except that it it wasn't really a nil-nil draw and that goal should have been given. And the times I've seen these poms claim 'the Netherlands side hasn't a hope' in Euro or WC and then been proven wrong again and again.
Frank being the sensible person..it's sad Craig can't own up cause hw already said the Dutch are not going far so he can't contradict himself and say they deserve to win and it was agoal....it was a horrendous decision to say the least
for those saying Netherlands got robbedThe rule is: no opposition player should obstruct the goalkeeper or block his vision of any potential goal attempt. The player was on the side of the maignan where maignan is supposed to dive to save the attempt, and the player is also offside. It doesnt matter if maignan “would have” or “ couldn’t have” made the save or not, the rule is simple and doesnt involve ifs, buts, woulds or maybes. hence it was offside
it was a valid goal, pure and simple. He didnt intervere. the goalkeeper was too late, the ball was already in the net before he could dive. He saw ittoo late, and that was not because of dumvries.
This game was a testament for how Mbappe dependant this current French side is. France and Netherlands were in the same qualification group, and Mbappe scored a brace in both of those games, plus an assist in the home game. France had taken the lead in both of those games within 10 minutes.
Qualifiers is different than tournament games, Netherlands hasn't lost a Tournament game in regular time since their lose in the last euros. Could they win with Mbappe today? Maybe, but he didn't score against Austria also or in the champions league games.
Well he is one of the greatest players in history so it's not surprising there is some adjustment. Same will happen to Real Madrid when he is injured, the rest of the team will have to step up.
@@PaulRichardson4678stop saying mbappe is one of the greatest Ah what has he really played....ah it pisses me off these days the way we use these words....that means all the people that have won world cups before even from the bench are one of the greatest....even neymar that is a pure football artist have not been given this accolade, then we keep hyping up these guys....
I think they're not being realistic about the mindset for this game. The Netherlands knew they were playing a stronger team (even without Mbappé) and so Koeman switched tactics. The game plan was to disrupt France, slow down the pace and to keep them at a stalemate. This partially worked. Normally the Netherlands fails at this. And always gives away a goal. So they play full on offense. Get one red card and then lose 4-0 to a top 5 team. This time they didnt. Flipped it around. And said: "Let France make the plays this game". And that strategy kindof worked. It also exposed that fact that without Mbappé, France's strikers turn out not to be as sharp as they should be (Griezmann wasting a big chance in front of Verbrugge being an example). No, Netherlands was not flashy. No, Netherlands doesnt seem to be a strong contender for teams like Spain, Germany or Portugal. But they are very aware of this and they have, instead, attempted to play the best possible strategies to cover for this. Every game. If, with a bad game, they can get a 0-0 draw from France. Then that's still good business. Especially since even the Dutch media had written them off at the start of the tournament. :P Personally, my attitude towards the Netherlands is this: "finishing in the top 16 is realistic. Any spot higher than that is a nice bonus."
Rangnick got Austria playing good football Players that he barely sees Unlike at Man United where they train every day Man U definitely have a Players Problem which Rangnick told them
No one appears to mention Poland are the most aggrieved, they are now out, if Netherland had won as they should - perfectly good goal, then Poland (albeit a slim chance) of knocking France out the competition, now that game is a dead rubber
As someone from netherlands, its offside by the books. But no keeper in the world would' ve stopped the goal. The problem is that we have seen goals given and taken by the same situation. Anyways france deserve a goal, and maybe the dutch so a draw is fair.
On what basis? That you support France? Dumfries was not in the play and he did not interfere. Maignan was never going to dive and save it, so it should have been a goal. Oh well, a draw was fair I guess and Oranje did not have a good game.
Frank is a great commentator -- but if i may, some French terms are getting lost in translation in English, ie he says 'an action' but i think he means 'a move'.
Honestly I wanted Netherlands to win but that goal was clear offside because dumfries was next to the goal keeper which is interfering with the goal keeper going for the ball if he wanted to even tho the keeper didn’t make an attempt it still have to be called because dumfries was standing in his way
Frank is 100% right. Maignan is absolutely never saving that. Now with that being said, it’s a pretty clear and obvious off-side simply by the law of the rules. It’s that simple.
One of the most boring games I've ever watched. It's the group system which allows the best 3rd place finishers to advance. Insanity. 16 groups in the tournament was perfect.
@Ian-te3sq I have watched the Euros since 1988 when there were only 8 teams in the final tournament. When there were 16 teams every single game mattered. Now the teams who win their first game only have to get one point from the remaining 2 games because the system is so ridiculous. Only 8 teams will be out. Of course that kills the intensity and importance of these remaining games and it's very convenient to play these "friendly ties".
@Ian-te3sq In the last world Cup there were teams that were eliminated from the second round with only 4 points. Just ask Germany. When only the 2 best teams qualify for the second round from the group stages all the games matter and there's no way these teams are going for these friendly ties. Tomorrow you'll see Germany and Switzerland playing and they both can secure their 2nd round with a tie. Very likely it'll happen again.
@Ian-te3sq Let's hope so. England-Denmark and France-Netherlands games were total snoozefests. Yesterday's game was just as exciting as watching the paint dry.
Why so negative about the Dutch side? Looking waaaay stronger than England and way more fun to watch.
English like EPL are very over rated players, average players are being touted as golden players & even Coach is stupid
Why it is always dutch to suffer because of referees in these major tournaments 😠
The ball was in the back of the net before the keeper could even react! It was a goal!
It does it matter. Read thr rules
How do you know he wouldn't have reacted if Dumfries hadn't been there? Him being so close to the keeper while being offside IS interfering
@@sobrevalorado the rules say that someo0ne who is not part of the attack cannot be offside. Dumpfries wasnt a part of it since he didnt touch the ball itself. You clearly dont know the rules yourself. It was a 100% goal and the obstruction part is just an excuse.
@@fuddilicious6020he may not be part of the attack, but he was clearly impeding the keeper
@@jojolouis Mate he just made a save and the ball went to Xavi, he had no time to react
Boring match were the ones in which England played
As was this match. England weren’t involved. Fairly cringe of you to try to involve us. Pretty embarrassing, one click on your pfp and every comment is mentioning England. Utter whopper.
Of course you’re a cow worshipper 😭
Of course you’re a cow worshipper 😭
England score 2 goals but France haven't scored a goal yet😂
England living rent free again
These pundits acting like both france and holland wouldn’t actually demolish england
Hmmm... demolish us with their prolific scoring? Playing in an open game with no pressing, although tbf they did actually shoot which is more than England.
I wouldn't say demolish. But yeah, either of them would certainly beat England
YOU WISH
Argentina beat all two of them in the world cup so I must say south American football is better💯
@@DexterDennyMessi should have gotten a red card tho 🤫
Frank is right on the offside goal ... an honest man
gol simon
Frank has always been an honest man he was happy when Cristiano Ronaldo won 2016 Euro Cup and Messi won 2022 World Cup despite both won against France in the Final
class lad
Except that he is wrong Maignan tries to go towards the ball but is prevented by Xavi Simons on his way. We can see it very clearly on the VAR.
Goal for him..
This was not a boring match! Not all 0-0s are poor. There were parts that weren't great but the defending from both teams was good to watch. It definitely had it's moments too with France going after them towards the end and the disallowed goal for Netherlands.
If this offside goal was the other way around, the refs would've turned a blind eye and everyone knows it. I'm sure Anthony Taylor and the VAR team got a nice pay check after this game
Frank Lebeauf is right about the fact that the goal of Xavi should not have been disallowed. A player can only interfere with the game when the ball is in play. Anything that could possibly be interpreted as interference between Dumfries and Maignan happened after the ball assed the goalline and is therefore not relevant. Craig Burnley completely ignores this crucial point.
Who cares about his “opinion” rules are rules
The rules don't care about whether the ball is in play, or whether the ball is heading towards goals. If a player kicks the ball away from the penalty area and is then fouled afterwards, when the ball is halfway headed towards the middle of the park, it's a penalty. It's insanity, but them's the rules
Dutch defender didnt block the keeper so the goal should stand. I agree with Shearer and Rooney.
They both valued a point which is smart ..it’s a tournament not a league match
Holland has a gigantic defensive line and scoring against them is tough for any team. France have speedy attackers that have to get behind the defense but its not happening. Simple
The man on the right has no positive word about the Netherlands.. the france played better but did not score! The netherlands scored and got robbed. The france played better but should have lossed
English Refs ruining the Euros the same way they did the Premier League😂
That goal shouldn’t have been disallowed.. The law of the game is terrible.. 😢
I disagree I thought it was a fascinating game from BOTH TEAMS.. . their analysis was harsh .both quality teams.
France proved they can break down high quality opposition without kyliann mbappe.. unlucky with their finishing
I wonder how these guys feel about the 2010 final where another English ref missed the corner which resulted in a goal in minute 120...
"Dembele Almost" 🤣
Always almost😅
😂😂
Without mbappe they look like average
Worst player ever. All bark and no bite. Pointless.
They sound like French fan boys, yes France is good but you cant discredit how well the Netherlands played. They really are the dark horses this tournament
how are they dark horses when they have a decent chance of winning it
France have played poorly and still won or played well in competitions pretty recently, so that’s why they still back France to achieve something, it’s not rocket science. The Dutch on the other hand have to prove themselves before they get the benefit of the doubt simple
Netherlands didn't play good, did you watch the second part of the match? They did nothing.
They didn't play well neither did France
It looked like both didn't wanna win and were happy with a draw
dark goats maybe
A great 1-0 win for the Dutch.
They are therefore already qualified even if they were dominated for most of the match. Three points obtained thanks to social media experts. Lol
Cope
The goalkeeper had all the room in the world AND dumfries wasnt obstructing his view. The keeper didnt even go for the ball and even if he had dimfries wouldnt have been in the way since he was to the left and in front of him. Absolutely clear goal got disallowed
That was a Goal. Come on guys
These guys watching a match for the first time? Goal or not doesn’t even matter, it was a high level game. Not great to watch but obviously 2 very strong teams.
The fifa generation. If the game ain’t 5-5 with a penalty shoot out , it isn’t good. But this is for the casual fan, so that’s what they promote. That game was awesome. Kante and tchouimeni and Saliba looked magnificent. Gakpo and reijnders also impressed
Craig Burley the dour, cranky, grim outlook Scot strikes another blow for low energy spoofers everywhere
It was a good game. The only boring games are the ones England have played so far.
What are these pundits on about? Not trying to show my bias here as a Dutchman but in the repeat, from the side you could see there was space for Maignan to dive back to the goal near the line, which is what goalkeepers tend to do when they try to save long shots aimed at the corners of the goal. He also had clear vision on the trajectory of the ball, but barely recovered from the save prior. Dumfries was standing motionless, not behind Maignan (which would have been obstruction), but a bit in front of him and at least one meter away to his side. That leaves plenty of space for Maignan to dive. So I don't understand the claim that Maignan has nowhere to go. He just realized he wasn't in time to collect himself after that deflection and make a consecutive save. The attempt was also accurately placed. So he just made an appeal to the refs to disallow the goal. There was no response from the keeper, no answer, and certainly he knew where the ball was going looking out into the box and seeing Simons readying a second attempt.
fully agree.
@@photographyisnotacrime7300 And I'll be the first to admit it wasn't a great game and France probably should have won.
Had you asked me before the match if I would be OK with the points being split I would have settled for that, absolutely without a doubt... And I still feel satisfied with the result. But I'm also left with a bit of a bad taste in my mouth, given what it could mean for the eventual outcome in the group and the eventual match-ups for the eighth finals.
Austria is no slouch either.
Yeah he stood motionless and immediately complained when the shot went in.. take a step back and make the dive.. and anyone who’s saying it was a call for obstructing the keeper’s line if sight is lying to themselves look at the positioning ffs
Anyone who thinks that was a valid offside has no sense of football. The goalkeeper was totally beaten. Dumfries being there or not it would have gone in, he was not standing in the way and he made no movement towards the ball. Add in that it took them so long to decide. It's not hard to judge of someone is offside or not. If it takes you 3 min to decide whether it was offside then the goal should just be allowed because all they're doing at that point is trying to rationalize the offside when it clearly isn't.
Except there's a huge hole in your argument: Dumfries was offside before Simmons touched the ball so the line referee should have whistled before the strike
Austria vs Holland should be some game
Ralf rangnick 🧠
@@James-bb7ixpippi langstrumpf
I think the dutch are going to win, hopefully they do because we really need this win.
Easy win Netherlands 3-0
@@waso778you will be surprised
I think Southgate has been tryna copy Deschamps defensive approach since after the 2018 world cup.
I want to congratulate not only UEFA, but also the European organizations and the European fans, as a Brazilian, I can say with all the doubts that you provided with this Euro, a true world cup experience, honestly, everything was impeccable, the parties, the rules in place, the beautiful game, the players, it really looked like a World Cup, I hope you maintain this level of beauty in 2024, so the world will have the pleasure of being able to witness a biennial World Cup 😁😁😁🇧🇷 🇪🇺
Bruh said not as boring as you pretended😂😂 says a lot
I don't know what people are so high on Dembele? The comments Frank made about the way he plays is something I have watched every time I have seen him play. He's all flash and no end product!
I think the comments make much more sense here than the show
No game was boring more than the England games🥱🥱
Yet people still say AFCON is not on the same level. It feels as if it’s a two edged sword.
Fair game guys
On my opinion, netherlands could do better but they defended their side well.
France took far too many long shots.
It wasn't boring though...
Very interesting game!
Both have proven themselves, let's see how it goes.
Netherlands must become bolder.
Fair play for trying twice
Instead of being honest about France's poor displays in and leading up to the tournament people look for excuses. They've been far from convincing. Instead Germany and Italy get put under a microscope, and in the case of the English and the french its excuses galore.
Kylian Mbappe was deeply missed..... deeply
France were the better team, and they should have won. Nonetheless, Netherlands goal should have been given.
If the goal from the Netherlands was given.. the French would've lost?
@@VonDutchNL You right. It still doesn't dispute the fact that France were the better team.
Had Netherlands scored that goal against Poland it would have stood.
Thank you Frank that's very honest of you. Much respect.
Sorry to say but that guy on the right side of the table seems to have no clue of what happens on a football field.
Which team have you played for?
@@dreddmann6532 You don't need to have played for a team to have a lot of knowledge of football
@@dreddmann6532 I don't need a football career to know BS when I hear it. Maybe something you should do to, forming your own opinion. :)
@@ContagiousSpongeif you say so.
@@Semmy27 so you don't think your opinion is the BS one?
Frank seems rstional but where do ESPN find these confident idiots?
France usually don’t start competition well but somehow always end up in the final or semi
Both teams agreed that neither of them should lose the game.
Dan is crazy 🤣 what game was he watching? That was an entertaining game
Just cos a game ends goalless doesn’t mean it was boring. England was a boring game - this def was not
Dutch side got robbed. And not a prolific team? Scored 10 goals in the last 4 matches, including this 0-0.
He is hindering, it's an active off side. See it as a whole, the whole team can reacts differently if a player is behind. And are you aware that if the Dutch player is positionned more on the left or even on side, he can block the strike.
What this game was really proof of is that the new 3th place rule is just boring...
Another adjustment to an already perfect tournament
Both teams were fine with a 1-1 and it showed
I thought both sides played well, but I must agree with frank, that should have been a Netherlands goal. But hey it's football.
These pundits are soo stupid, that was a robbery
Experts are not supposed to think emotionally. Rules are rules and if you can't accept them, keep crying. France dominated the Netherlands for most of the match and so the draw was deserved and if any country deserved more than the draw, it was France. And I'm not French but I'm not one of those who hate France.
It was not a boring game... Only England games are boring... Both teams created chances to win the game... Netherlands goal should have stood only English refree can predict the future that Maignan pulls out a world class save to stop that shot
"A boring game"... I don't detect any sarcasm
Just like France 🇫🇷 today. PSG, too, will come to know the value of missing Kylian Mbappe in the team. France were completely out of it without him.
Perfectly good goal ...the Dutch won... lucky French
"It was boring because after 60 minutes we know it was going to be a nil-nil draw."
Except that it it wasn't really a nil-nil draw and that goal should have been given.
And the times I've seen these poms claim 'the Netherlands side hasn't a hope' in Euro or WC and then been proven wrong again and again.
Cant Belive only Frank talk sense.Mike Migan didnt bother to dive.
Frank being the sensible person..it's sad Craig can't own up cause hw already said the Dutch are not going far so he can't contradict himself and say they deserve to win and it was agoal....it was a horrendous decision to say the least
Frenkie de Jong is so heavily missed
Barely
His career is joever. Same injuries over and over. Time to move on.
The ref and var were english.. not a surprise the officiating was bad
English referee should be ban.
for those saying Netherlands got robbedThe rule is: no opposition player should obstruct the goalkeeper or block his vision of any potential goal attempt. The player was on the side of the maignan where maignan is supposed to dive to save the attempt, and the player is also offside. It doesnt matter if maignan “would have” or “ couldn’t have” made the save or not, the rule is simple and doesnt involve ifs, buts, woulds or maybes. hence it was offside
As a Dutch person I agree, it's harsh but fair. All in all a draw is a pretty decent result for both sides I'd say.
it was a valid goal, pure and simple. He didnt intervere. the goalkeeper was too late, the ball was already in the net before he could dive. He saw ittoo late, and that was not because of dumvries.
Rules of the game dont care about feelings.
This game was a testament for how Mbappe dependant this current French side is. France and Netherlands were in the same qualification group, and Mbappe scored a brace in both of those games, plus an assist in the home game. France had taken the lead in both of those games within 10 minutes.
But DD didn't even try to replace Mbappé with Coman, instead he put in another DM with Tchouameni. DD played for the draw today it seems.
Qualifiers is different than tournament games, Netherlands hasn't lost a Tournament game in regular time since their lose in the last euros. Could they win with Mbappe today? Maybe, but he didn't score against Austria also or in the champions league games.
Well he is one of the greatest players in history so it's not surprising there is some adjustment. Same will happen to Real Madrid when he is injured, the rest of the team will have to step up.
They literally had three perfect chances that Griezzy squandered. Their attack seemed to work, it was just Griez that turned into a league 4 player
@@PaulRichardson4678stop saying mbappe is one of the greatest Ah what has he really played....ah it pisses me off these days the way we use these words....that means all the people that have won world cups before even from the bench are one of the greatest....even neymar that is a pure football artist have not been given this accolade, then we keep hyping up these guys....
Even though France advanced, I think the Netherlands would be more happier than the French in winning a point
@Ian-te3sq I don't think either team will be very afraid of Portugal.
I think they're not being realistic about the mindset for this game. The Netherlands knew they were playing a stronger team (even without Mbappé) and so Koeman switched tactics. The game plan was to disrupt France, slow down the pace and to keep them at a stalemate. This partially worked.
Normally the Netherlands fails at this. And always gives away a goal. So they play full on offense. Get one red card and then lose 4-0 to a top 5 team. This time they didnt. Flipped it around. And said: "Let France make the plays this game". And that strategy kindof worked.
It also exposed that fact that without Mbappé, France's strikers turn out not to be as sharp as they should be (Griezmann wasting a big chance in front of Verbrugge being an example).
No, Netherlands was not flashy. No, Netherlands doesnt seem to be a strong contender for teams like Spain, Germany or Portugal. But they are very aware of this and they have, instead, attempted to play the best possible strategies to cover for this. Every game.
If, with a bad game, they can get a 0-0 draw from France. Then that's still good business. Especially since even the Dutch media had written them off at the start of the tournament. :P
Personally, my attitude towards the Netherlands is this: "finishing in the top 16 is realistic. Any spot higher than that is a nice bonus."
That wasn't an offside in million years. What a stupid rule! Change it!!
Either of these teams will school England
Xavis goal was legit.
No French player has scored in this tournament yet.
Euro is there kryptonite 😂 that's why turtle thinks euro is more hard
They didn't score in 3 games straight, drew against Canada too.
Rangnick got Austria playing good football Players that he barely sees Unlike at Man United where they train every day
Man U definitely have a Players Problem which Rangnick told them
If the netherlands are not that good of a side then england is dramatic, because they’re definitely better
seems the french team is saving energy for the games to come
it had to happen "a poor match" and this is coming from an Englishman? Has he seen his own team play? Obviously lacking self reflection. 😂
Premier league refs and VAR. The saga continues lol
Dembele is Almost all season good player but not ready for the big stage
I'm convinced these presenters are DRUNK 😮
No one appears to mention Poland are the most aggrieved, they are now out, if Netherland had won as they should - perfectly good goal, then Poland (albeit a slim chance) of knocking France out the competition, now that game is a dead rubber
Great performance by Netherlands 🇳🇱
As someone from netherlands, its offside by the books.
But no keeper in the world would' ve stopped the goal. The problem is that we have seen goals given and taken by the same situation.
Anyways france deserve a goal, and maybe the dutch so a draw is fair.
Gakpo - Malen
Reijnders
Schouten - Veerman
Vd Ven - Dijk - dVrij - Geertruida - Frimpong
Dumfries was offside & everybody is talking about interference with goalie.there is no connection
Guys its 2024.....how are we still doing 720p? Looks bad on a 6.5" phone screen never mind a laptop or god forbid, a TV
Don and Craig won't comment on the chalked off goal because of their officials.
Ragnick is a good coach
What's it got to do with this game
netherlands get robbed at wc vs argentina and now again get robbed at euro vs france...😅
Frank is 100% right it was a goal
Ninja turtle say the tournament is harder 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣...and here we are watching 37 year old Messi making it look so easy😎😎😎😎
As a Ref the decision was 100% correct
So why did the Ref award a goal and VAR over-rule him?
On what basis? That you support France?
Dumfries was not in the play and he did not interfere. Maignan was never going to dive and save it, so it should have been a goal. Oh well, a draw was fair I guess and Oranje did not have a good game.
France was better side over 90 mints
but Netherlands was the only team that scored and it was debatable whether it should be allowed or not.
Keeper was way too late anyway. Without dumfriess he wouldn’t been able to get it either
Frank is a great commentator -- but if i may, some French terms are getting lost in translation in English, ie he says 'an action' but i think he means 'a move'.
He also say ‘ you pretend’ instead of ‘you claim’
France is yet to score in four matches including friendlies lol
It is always the ones you expect to be amazing watches that end up being boring.
Honestly I wanted Netherlands to win but that goal was clear offside because dumfries was next to the goal keeper which is interfering with the goal keeper going for the ball if he wanted to even tho the keeper didn’t make an attempt it still have to be called because dumfries was standing in his way
Frank is 100% right. Maignan is absolutely never saving that. Now with that being said, it’s a pretty clear and obvious off-side simply by the law of the rules. It’s that simple.
Germany and Spain will be favourites;England out in last 16 and France in Quarters.
can this old men give espn a ney look ,it still looks like 1940 cow shed
give the studio a new look
One of the most boring games I've ever watched. It's the group system which allows the best 3rd place finishers to advance. Insanity. 16 groups in the tournament was perfect.
@Ian-te3sq I have watched the Euros since 1988 when there were only 8 teams in the final tournament. When there were 16 teams every single game mattered. Now the teams who win their first game only have to get one point from the remaining 2 games because the system is so ridiculous. Only 8 teams will be out. Of course that kills the intensity and importance of these remaining games and it's very convenient to play these "friendly ties".
@Ian-te3sq In the last world Cup there were teams that were eliminated from the second round with only 4 points. Just ask Germany. When only the 2 best teams qualify for the second round from the group stages all the games matter and there's no way these teams are going for these friendly ties. Tomorrow you'll see Germany and Switzerland playing and they both can secure their 2nd round with a tie. Very likely it'll happen again.
@Ian-te3sq Let's hope so. England-Denmark and France-Netherlands games were total snoozefests. Yesterday's game was just as exciting as watching the paint dry.
In this Groupe both 1 and 2 will play vs a team that ended 2nd in their pool.
For these armchair commentators, nearly every game is terrible!
France without Mbappe is looking tough...