Has the window SHUT on Belgium becoming a WORLD POWERHOUSE? 🇧🇪 👀 | ESPN FC Extra Time
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 25 มิ.ย. 2024
- Gab Marcotti, Frank Leboeuf, Don Hutchison and Craig Burley join Kay Murray on ESPN FC Extra Time to answer fans' questions and discuss:
0:00 Would Craig quit the show?
1:23 Craig's own goals
4:42 Frank's predictions for Denmark & Canada
6:25 Has the window shut on Belgium?
7:36 Percentage chance Belgium make it past the Round of 16
10:36 Surprised about Saliba starting
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Roberto Martinez shut that door years ago, now he is trying to work his (anti)magic with Portugal.
He’s going to fail with them as well
I will be there when it happens!
He's one of the most overrated coaches in world football history, I have no idea what the Belgian and Portugeuese federation saw/see in him.
Lukaku a donkey. Belgium need to get rid of him.
😂😂😂you right. That guy wasted Belgium's talent.
@@samplingmastersxlr8660 no u wont.
Martinez agent is class this guy how he gets these jobs is a head scratcher
Belgium's standing is a complete mystery to me. They have never won the Euro and never even reached a World Cup final, yet FIFA consistently ranks them near the top (and were #1 for a while)
same with England
It has to do with how well the national team does in international qualifying as well as with the value if the squad etc. Kevin de Bruyne is amongthe best in world at his position - he won PL many times as well as the Uefa CL. Lukaku is worth tens of millions if not more.
@@davidzolcer4848 that still doesn't mean anything. Argentina, Germany, Brazil, France, England, Italy, Spain, Netherlands, Uruguay, Portugal is better than Belgium. Belgium shouldn't even be top 10
Probably because they are so 'diverse'. All politics.
DeBruyne is aging fast so yes. lukaku just isnt that guy, can never finish when it matters most
Lakaka Kane curse
Lukaku a donkey. Belgium need to get rid of him.
Trampoline first touch..cluttered head as to what to decide at key moments in game= Lukaku isn't that guy to win you tourneys or even the league. He's actually better when he's under pressure from fans and pundits, if left alone he's dies a gruesome death in key games
@MuzzamilMotong I have to admit this is sadly true. He has had phases in his career where the goals come, but, more often than not, they don't come in the big games that need 1 goal for the win.
Belgium are still the 3rd overall in world rankings which is honestly crazy to me as at one point they were 1st in the FIFA rankings. They had a Golden Generation when it came to producing talent that was never set up for any success in major tournaments. How can you boast a lot of talented players in their prime and yet still win absolutely nothing especially when you had a team with some of the best players in the premier league at the time in their position. When it came to the big matches in these tournaments they always came up short whenever the lights were the brightest. They have been a little unlucky in a sense that at the 2018 World Cup and 2020 EUROs they were eliminated by their eventual winners (France and Italy respectively). They had to go up against very strong teams, they never really produced when it mattered the most and you can’t be that nearly team every time if you want to win something. At the last World Cup there was this feeling that their best chance of winning something internationally passed them by due to the fact that their team was too old and their previous shortcomings in previous tournaments and they failed to get out of their group. The team has gone through a transitional period where they have a new manager and they went from the old to new generation of players and that’s part of why Belgium don’t have any expectations on them for the EUROs, yet they can’t even beat Slovakia which puts them under pressure to win their remaining games in the group.
They don’t have any excuses if they can’t get out of the group once again because regardless of the squad that they have, Belgium have much more talent than Romania and Ukraine. I don’t know what the future holds for them after the EUROs since Kevin De Bruyne is 32 going to turn 33 very soon, Romelu Lukaku is in his 30s, we don’t know if they want to play for the national team in another major tournament, Thibaut Courtois the best goalkeeper in the world when fully healthy who played very well in the champions league final it looks like his international career is over as he fell out of favor with the manager, they’re going to have to rely on the younger players and properly replace these guys.
I blame kdb as he hasn't delivered or been that go to guy, like Zidane, iniesta,kaka, pirlo all who delivered for club and country! Kdb just doing it for club lets his legacy down as he was part of that golden generation for a decade!
Can you be a powerhouse with no recent international trophies? or at least Deep runs example Croatia would be more of a power house than Belgium
Belgium has had multiple deep runs:
Euro 1972: 3rd place
Euro 1980: Final
WC 1986: Semi-final
WC 2018: 3rd place
@@deandoesstuff3371 honestly the 2018 one was only because Japan bottled the game, besides that Belgium are irrelevant
@@bluebird1954 Nah. Belgium dominated that game. If Belgium are "irrelevant", then so are all countries aside from the "big 5".
@@deandoesstuff3371 Do I hear Spursy and Arsenal excuses? Listing "we were almost there" achievements 😂
@@eL--RaL Nope. Original comment mentioned deep runs. So i simply listed them.
It all comes down to Lukaku's finishing. Belgium has great young players, but until they find a replacement for Lukaku. their success depends on his.
Exactly. Nevermind his disallowed goals in the game. Lukaku was atrocious. I said it somewhere else. Lukaku was bad today.
@@insideinside9450"Nevermind his disallowed goals.” His job is to score goals. What are you talking about? He was fractions away from scoring two goals, hit the side post on a volley, and the goalie made a fantastic save on him from close range. Not to mention he nearly had several assists on lay off passes. So many lazy comments like yours in these comment sections.
You’re going to very hard pressed to find another Belgian striker coming remotely close to scoring anywhere near 85 international goals like Lukaku ever again. Careful what you wish for.
@@Photosoflife this just kinda helps to prove that he is bad. His job is score and he did not score.
Lukaku a donkey. Belgium need to get rid of him.
Yes. Fellaini is gone.
Its been over lol
when you don`t even know the groups as an official euro-sports commentator....embarassing.
No Hazard, no party!
No one talks about kdb the same with foden shows you how important managers are but at united its the players fault 😂im here for it next season
the window has effectively shut
Here where the back 7 (including the keeper) of Belgium’s player play: two central midfielders one for Everton and another Nothingham, One of their centrback went down to the championship with Leicester,
One defender for Fulham, Goalkeeper and defender in Belgium league another on Saudi league. Why is this team considered top? The so called golden generation is gone years ago.
And now, to put things in perspective.
The one from Everton, Onana, is 22 years old, worth 60 million and wanted by some of the biggest clubs in Europe.
Mangala, 25 years old, no longer players for Nottingham forest, but for Lyon.
Faes, the CB from Leicester City, just won the Championship and will be back in the Premier League.
Debast, 20 year old CB, just made a move to Sporting CP.
Casteels was one of the top keepers in the Bundesliga for years, playing for Wolfsburg.
See how easily you can turn this around ? Yes, Belgium is a top team.
Most of these players aren't even starters. Theate, Witsel, Tielemans are/were all injured recently.
I know you're trying to downplay Belgium, but context is important.
Belgium is rebuilding. So it makes sense that some of these young players aren't known yet or haven't made big moves yet, but there's alot of talent tho.
To name a few:
Doku ( Mancester City )
Onana ( Everton )
Vermeeren ( Atletico Madrid )
Fofana ( Lyon )
Ngonge ( Napoli )
Duranville ( Dortmund )
Deman ( Werder Bremen )
Vertessen ( Union Berlin )
Lavia ( Chelsea )
Vranckx ( Wolfsburg )
Engels ( Augsburg )
Mbamba ( Bayer Leverkusen )
Leysen ( Union SG )
Debast ( Sporting CP )
De Cuyper ( Club Brugge )
Spileers ( Club Brugge )
Vandevoordt ( KRC Genk )
Stroeykens ( Anderlecht )
Van Den Bosch ( Antwerp )
Bakayoko ( PSV )
De Winter ( Genoa )
CDK ( Atalanta )
Saelemaekers ( Bologna )
Theate ( Rennes )
Openda ( RB Leipzig )
Godts ( Ajax )
Etc...
“I really love Denmark, what a beautiful country and I……… really appreciated visiting canada”. 😅 You nailed it as always Frank!
It immediately shut when Hazard got washed. Losing your best player ever and having to rely on ‘Trossard’ to fill in is never going to work.
Kaye looks gorgeous 😍💯
You don't win the World Cup just by beating Brazil 2-1 in the 2018 World Cup quarter finals. You have to win the World Cup.
Oh please... They were NEVER a powerhouse..Tbh I don't even know what they ever did to become a powerhouse
The media shot themselves on the foot by creating some unrealistic expectations which didn't reflect their true strength ..So they get to acr surprised and shock when they lose games or tournaments
Thank you. Finally someone has been speaking facts about the Belgium national team.
Lukaku stat padding in qualifiers made them ranked 3 in the world 😂😂😂
Powerhouses are Germany, Italy, Spain, Argentina, France, England , Brazil and maybe the Netherlands. Some of them struggle here and there but these Nations are and always will be the Top Favorites. Belgium ,Croatia and Portugal are Dark Horses who can do well if everything works out which is rarely the case
Belgium had thier best team for a decade in 30 years? But ultimately have disappointed at major tournaments? Blame lukaku , blame kdb who has failed to be that player to take control and get that winning goal! He does it for club regularly
@@jascha2765England ? Swap them with Portugal who have more throphies
Play Doku LW, Trossard striker and Bakayoko RW.
Everyone focuses on Belgium being overrated in the ranking being n. 3 but almost nobody mentions the favt how underrated Slovakia is. N.48? That is BS? They should be at least 10-15 places better. Almost in top 30 globally
They’re never ever a powerhouse to begin with. They’ve got some really world class players and that’s that. They didn’t really have a strong first 11.
Burley just described exactly what happened in the Turkey-Portugal match today
Poor Lukaku just always a problem scoring weird
The talking heads are trying to tell us about how average Italy and Englands first games were. There is something to be said to get 3 points. Something Belgium failed to do.
The door hit closed in 2021
They were in peak form in 2018 that should have been the one..
Belgium’s window was when they had prime Mertens, lukaku, nainggolan, verthongen, and Hazard. It’s over now… not enough star power or chemistry
Belgium are maybe 8 or 9 in the world in real life.
I thought Craig was saying gopher at first. I was so confused until Don said golfer.
The Belgium federation did these players a disservice not getting them a proper coach that could get them over the top.
Thats why international rating doesnt make sense if any country wins consistently against poor teams then rating is biased
Lakaka at his best again 😂
Belgium is so frustrating because they can do so much better and always seem to underachieve every game. A lot of it has to do with Lukaku and the level of confidence that the team has in him, in one of the crosses, his teammate was aiming for KDB when he was right there in front of him
YES!!!
If Germany can drop out of the top 10 so can Belgium… they havent won anything in decades and rarely make it far in tournaments. Fifa needs to finally wake up with their rankings
Yeah it long gone now but let it play out they say…
Why are we listening to Craig, I would prefer to listen to football analysis. Unprofessional, no one cares about your past
Can’t believe craig tried to rat on don like that
Kdb
With Manchester city farmers league 😎
But with Belgium 🇧🇪 🤓🤓🤓
Italy is a Powerhouse, Spain is Powerhouse, Argentina is Powerhouse, Germany is Powerhouse, Portugal is a Powerhouse and the rest are talented but don't win. Belgium and England are Teams with good Players but still don't win anything in this Century.
The window never opened
we just don't have a team that is well oiled, this belgian generation has been wasted by bad managers, and soon, the English too will say the same, i can't see both countries go through
Lukaku a donkey. Belgium need to get rid of him.
Martinez is goig to shut door for portugal now😂
7.32 showed up Don Hutchison football knowledge. Will Belgium get past group Don? Whose in there group? Slovakia. Yes. Slovakia beat them today. Errrrrrr
Please talk less off subject
Yes.
They were beaten by a mediocre Italy in 2016. Are they even a real nation?
The Golden era was just a myth and false hypes.
Fifa rankings 🚮
Belgium have more of a chance at winning the euros than england
Why am I listening to this....
Burley always likes 2 try & laugh kaye's knickers off, its cringeworthy at times watching him waffle
KDB isn't a playmaker..He just gives final pass.. Overrated, can't ever believe Prem media tries to compare to him true playmakers like Iniesta, Xavi, Modric ans Zidane
Fr.
Honestly, as a Belgian, i can actually somewhat agree with this, but that doesn't make him overrated imo. He's insanely good at what he does, but, you're right that he doesn't really pull the strings or dictate the game as much as the players you mentioned.
Put him in an attacking position, and there is no better player. But once you can take him out of the game, he tends to disappear.
@@deandoesstuff3371 i might have gone far with "overrated" but it's great to see his native man agree with me.. He's the best midfielder of this generation tho but he's not a playmaker as they make him to be
@@eL--RaL True, i actually feel like Hazard was always more of a playmaker for Belgium. Setting up attacks, controlling the play/speed of the game, always moving into positions where he could receive the ball and ofcourse his technical ability.
KDB is an attacking machine, he's great on the counter, great at crossing, dangerous inside/around the box etc...He's the best at that, but i don't expect him to actually control a game in the same way someone Like Iniesta or Zidane did.
I would give Vermeeren a chance in the next game tbh. Risky move, cause he's only 19 years old, but he's an actual box to box midfielder/playmaker who can control the game. Big talent.
Spot on! No point doing it just for club? Kdb cant sit on the same table as Zidane, iniesta,kaka,pirlo etc! All dragged their national teams to winning trophies
Was it ever opened?only these guys and Belgium fans believed the hype and the hype was because they had PL superstars on the team. They are not Portugal, they never have the depth, take DeBruyne and Lukaku and they are a mid table team.
Neither did Portugal...
Portugal are having a golden generation now, while Belgium are transitioning, so not a fair comparison.
Besides, take Ronaldo away from Portugal and it's the same thing
Back in 2018 they had a top tier side. Kompany, Toby Aldieweirld, Jan Vertonghen. Fellaini, Witsel, Chadli, Carasco, Mertens, Hazard, Lukaku De bruyne, Tielemans.
@@insideinside9450 Also, don't forget about: Courtois, Dembele, Vermaelen, Meunier, Nainggolan...
The next generation looks promising tho.
Doku ( Mancester City )
Onana ( Everton )
Vermeeren ( Atletico Madrid )
Fofana ( Lyon )
Ngonge ( Napoli )
Duranville ( Dortmund )
Deman ( Werder Bremen )
Vertessen ( Union Berlin )
Lavia ( Chelsea )
Vranckx ( Wolfsburg )
Engels ( Augsburg )
Mbamba ( Bayer Leverkusen )
Leysen ( Union SG )
Debast ( Sporting CP )
De Cuyper ( Club Brugge )
Spileers ( Club Brugge )
Vandevoordt ( KRC Genk )
Stroeykens ( Anderlecht )
Van Den Bosch ( Antwerp )
Bakayoko ( PSV )
De Winter ( Genoa )
CDK ( Atalanta )
Saelemaekers ( Bologna )
Theate ( Rennes )
Openda ( RB Leipzig )
Godts ( Ajax )
Etc...
Currently, Belgium are transitioning and we'll probably see a massive rebuild after this tournament. I can see Belgium being among the favorites again in 2026 tbh.
@@deandoesstuff3371 yes shame on me not to mention naingolan and munier. Two of my favorite footballers.
@@deandoesstuff3371 nonsense, Bruno , Bernardo and Leão are world class. Vitinha, Felix, Palhinha, Cancelo, Nuno Mendes…you are sleeping.
the door was shut after Hazard left
Craig should be subbed by another pundit. He has really bad panel manners interrupting and talking over Kay and the other pundits. He doesn't wait to be asked, digress and babbles too much. HE IS TOTALLY UNPROFESSIONAL. ESPN FC either you rein him in or those in the know should switch to Sky.
I’m glad someone else sees this too. You’re spot on.
Dunno why i listen to this show said it from the start Germany hosts ,Germany winners ,these fools discounted real Madrid when it was clear they were favourites, worst is gab ,no clue whatsoever and 💯 annoying
Lukaku is useless ,if it was easier to score an open goal he would put it wide ,shocking this bloke period
The two most talented players of Belgium‘s golden generation retired: Mousa Dembélé and Eden Hazard. At international level you need no system players like De Bruyne, you need the natural talented players who are improving every team despite of the system/tactics. Also Belgium at their peak (2014-2018) had a much better defence than now. Kompany, Alderweireld, Vertonghen, Vermaelen and before Van Buyten too. The squad overall is much weaker now.
Next generation looks promising, and this may sound insane. But i feel like Belgium would become stronger after a complete rebuild. Right now, Belgium is slowly replacing the golden gen with young players, but if this tournament fails, a complete rebuild has to happen imo.
Yeah, i know, sounds mad. Lukaku and KDB are still only in their early 30's and still top players, but the team relies on them and it's clear that when they are having an off day, the entire team suffers.
Burley thinks himself to be witty and fun. He isn't.
Who is the best? Graig literally the worst pundit
Lukaku holding d team back
Craig is a narcissist
How can you be a powerhouse with no striker ???
Lukaku has the 6th most goals in international history and has 85 goals and 17 assists in 116 matches for Belgium. Yet another incredibly lazy comment.
Dan Thomas needs to host this show every day, his replacements are not up to snuff
Kay is better than Dan.
@@Photosoflife Kay couldn’t carry Dan’s jockstrap
Belgium has never been a top 10 team. Not even close
They have never been as good as their ranking, but their golden generation was clearly top 10 they got 3rd in the 2018 World Cup.
France,belguim, Italy, England are all weak germany don't have attackers Portugal are busy with if they should start or bench cr7 nothing is stopping Spain from winning this cup 😂
Vamos Vamos. Forca La España. Vamos.
Btw germany do have attackers and portugal are very good with or without cr7. I feel like france should not be ruled out either.
The rest are jokers.😂
@@insideinside9450show respect to the other teams
@@insideinside9450 France are good but I hope mbappe remains injured but germany lacks attacker all the players that scored are midfielders even kai the only attacker they have is N.Fullkrug