The Cosmonaut || A Raspberry Jam and Gin Cocktail from Regarding Cocktails by Sasha Petraske

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  • @JamesRyhl
    @JamesRyhl ปีที่แล้ว

    Made a bunch of these for a cocktail party. You just buy some jam, no need to infuse raspberry in syrup. No lemon peel garnish either (even tho it wouldn't hurt). So damn easy and simple, which i guess is how Petraske rolls. My only annoyance is how imprecise the measurement "heaping barspoon is" but it kinda doesn't matter if it's a little more or less sweet. Inside me there are two wolves fighting for dominance, one is the Petraske-school, the other is the ultra precise Dave Arnold-y mindset. Either way i love this cocktail. Any additions to this cocktail would ruin its beautiful simplicity (a true middle finger to the dark ages and the cosmo). If anything it wouldn't hurt with a single dash of bitters. Something citrus-forward like orange, grapefruit or lemon bitters would be very good i think (or mayb bitter truth peach would be yummy).
    Elaborating on the barspoon thing, though. It's always annoyed me how vague/imprecise that measurement is. Different people attribute different measurements to the barspoon. Take for example your sazerac video. The codex sazerac uses one teaspoon of syrup. You mention that a properly made barspoon contains half a teaspoon, so you pour two barspoons in. This just doesn't seem to be quite the case. A teaspoon is 5ml. So 1/2tsp=2.5ml. According to wikipedia, a barspoon is also=5ml. According to Dave Arnold a barspoon=4ml. I saw a guy on reddit claiming that old 'red tip' barspoons were 1/8oz=3/4tsp=3.75ml, but that newer barspoons are a little smaller. I just kinda doubt this, as my new barfly barspoon (which is about average for a barspoon) seems to be about 4-5ml when i pour it into a measuring spoon. Either way, it's more than 2.5 mls. I think Dave Arnold was completely right when it came to the 4ml. Different barspoons have different measurements, but i think 4ml is pretty average. It's complicated by the fact that it's unclear how much you fill the barspoon up, there is no clear line. With very viscous liquids like syrup, the surface tension means that you can fit quite a lot on a barspoon. Still, there seems to be a point when the barspoon naturally 'feels full'. Your barspoon pours are kinda small so maybe closer to 3ml than 4ml, but still. 'A heaping barspoon' of jam could mean anything between 5-15ml. I tend to think that Petraske meant about 15ml, that just makes more sense to me, but idk.
    Edit: oh and also it benefits greatly from 2-3 drops of saline

    • @homemadeedition
      @homemadeedition  ปีที่แล้ว

      I completely agree about the two wolves 🤣 so well put!
      I heard somewhere a long while ago (I think it was from Leandro) that a barspoon was a ½ tsp. I own 3 from 3 different brands and tested all of them for volume (plus I tested my brother's, again from a different brand). I was fairly imprecise, I didn't use a scale: I took a half teaspoon, filled it with water and poured it into each of the spoons. Every single one seemed to be filled to the brim, right to where I would instinctively fill a barspoon when measuring for a cocktail recipe. I did this in reverse and each spoon properly filled the ½ teaspoon without lack or excess. I then repeated the whole process with a different ½ tsp and got the same results. So, for me it has seemed settled but, I'm not going to be dogmatic or argue with D. Arnold.
      I think you'd agree, so much of what we do is all about consistency and precision that it's all at once infuriating and beautiful when something as preposterous as "one heaping barspoon" seems to work EVERY SINGLE TIME.
      So I try to stop thinking about it. And hey, a great drink really helps such questions seem a little less important somehow.
      Oh by the way, I've been enjoying your thoughts on the channel lately. But I saw one last week and when I went reply YT said it was gone. Maybe you deleted it, maybe the YT overlords did it (they do stuff like that and people think it's me) but whenever the case, just know that I'm not ever the one deleting them. I'm not about to get my undies all in a bunch because somebody said something in the comments. 😉
      Cheers

    • @JamesRyhl
      @JamesRyhl ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@homemadeedition Good that you're testing it out. I was unhappy with my results also, so i dug out my high-precision jewelry scale and started measuring barspoons. They were in the range of 3-3.5ml depending on how full they were. Most were just over 3ml. The problem might have been trying to gauge the volume in a half-filled measuring spoon by eye. Volume is just super-unintuitive thing for humans. Now I'm leaning more towards barspoons being closer to 3ml on average. The reddit guy might have been spot on. Just wierd that Arnold (who i tend to respect with such things) gives a different result. A lot of places on the internet also say 5ml. Probably the only thing you can definitely say about the barspoon is that it's more than 2.5ml but less than 5ml. This is all kinda irrelevant yes, but i think it has one important use case, which is batching, where you have to multiply a barspoon many times. Next time I'm making, say, a batched old fashioned, I'll count on 1 barspoon being 3ml.
      Oh yea, i deleted it. It was kind of a rambling incoherent mess lol

  • @trybeforeidie
    @trybeforeidie ปีที่แล้ว

    I miss your tasting notes after the first sips

    • @homemadeedition
      @homemadeedition  ปีที่แล้ว

      I might bring it back next week. I have had most viewers bouncing once I get to the testing notes so I figured they were superfluous.
      But if people want them back, I'll bring 'em back!