Thank you, Eugene and Jonathan. I enjoyed hearing from the author. I felt I was changing as I read Laurus. When I finished the novel I felt like I lost a brother.
1:03 _Laurus_ connecting an Ancient vision of reality working out through the difficulties of Post-Modern Society. 1:59 Breakdown of coherence. *Eugene Vodolazkin* 2:45 Thank you. 2:53 Limited space and time, borders. 3:09 Finitude. 3:21 Border. 3:27 Finitude is a Border. The border is not only what separates, it is also something that indicates interation. 3:40 “It is possible to interact with the person, with the country, with the culture that is near.” 4:01 The Disappearance of Borders between States, between People. 4:23 There is nothing wrong in this. But if you look more closely, with a loss of boundaries, differences disappear. 4:52 Pandemic 2020. *Back to Laurus* 5:56 Back to Laurus. 6:15 Characters transcend both space and time. 6:39 Doing with space and time, overcoming boundaries metaphysically. Going where there is neither space nor time. 7:24 Overcoming borders. 7:37 A confusion of linearity and of space and time, but moving towards transcendence. 8:17 Transcendence. 8:49 Medieval People and Time. 40 years, 50 years. 9:25 Direct Call to The Heaven. 11:05 Monasteries were the Universities Schools 🏫 11:48 “again and again.” “Movement towards The Union of Heaven and Earth.” 13:12 History is a teacher of the life. 13:37 Circle History ⭕️ and Linear History 📈 14:40 Spiral 🌀 History has it’s rhymes. Things come back. (Fractals? Same pattern, different levels) 15:25 Toupus and Anti-Toupus. 16:36 The New Jerusalem. Transformation. Upward to God. ⬆️ 18:08 Embrace of Realism. Holy Fools and Miracles. 19:11 Christian Re-enchantment of The World. 20:37 _The Island_ 21:27 Different notions. 22:12 Painting a meteorite as a snake.🐍 dragon 🐉 23:35 Now they call snake a meteorite. 24:17 Category like Dragon 🐉 . 25:04 If God Will, He will show and tell how it actually was. 25:48 26:45 27:24 Desire for Unity of Story. 29:51 St Christopher with a dog’s head. 32:04 Solstice. 33:25 Fight or Incorporate. Speak others language. 35:17 Collaboration. 36:26 Mythology is a special metaphorical language of poetry. 38:00 J.R.R. Tolkien. 40:03 The Phenomenon of Soul. 43:09 Art. 🖼️
Great interview! I bought Laurus after watching and finished reading it a couple of days ago. I loved it! Arseny's journey is still travelling through my mind. When I'm watching a show or a commercial, I'm taken back to Arseny's world, wondering what he would think of our world today? I can't help but wonder where the virtuous man is hiding today? Are there true Holy Fools to protect us from devils? Is redemption possible with all the "progress" shoved in our faces on a daily basis? Yes, this story is such a harbinger of hope for our technological imbalanced world.
The closing points are beautiful. Prior to my conversion, a large part of my aversion to Christianity was certainly the ‘stink’ of what was ‘Christian’ art. Vapid and bleached and propagandistic. This exciting and vivifying ‘return to narrative’ has been so needed. Scripture, icons, the patristics, Rachmaninov and his contemporaries, and stories like Laurus.. all integral in restoring what the West hi-jacked away from us. The richness of the biblical narrative properly framed.
@@sunnyroad5644 yes, the West. A long degradation from the Schism to The Renaissance to the Enlightenment with Calvinism and so on to today’s ‘prosperity gospel’. Not to mention the western export of Communism and the like. So instead of saying all that. I thought I’d just say the west.
@@FiremanKevin I think it's a stretch to portray various developments in that language. .The schism hasn't held orthodoxy back ? Catholicism has been held back in my opinion only by it's disinterest in teaching people the 'mysteries' and in depth understanding of Christian teachings. All these Churches have have taken their Congregation for granted . I know many Greeks who known little or nothing about their religion,but would call themselves Orthodox. It's taken Jordan Peterson a agnostic to come along and 'shame', some of them into taking action.It was through Jordan Peterson ,that I ,a very very lapsed Catholic am finding my way back into communal religious worship. {which is very important]His interview with Jonathon Pageau absolutely kick started me. These Churches and their leaders are open to corruption as any other institution. Pope Francis is as corrupt and as stupid as any Pope in history,you actually have to ignore that.
@@sunnyroad5644 I’m sorry I wasn’t clear. I didn’t mean these occurrences to have ‘held back Orthodoxy’. It’s always been and always will be there for people. I very literally meant the whole Christian narrative being... anesthetized to the point where you get Joel Osteen’s and other clowns as the face most Americans put to Protestantism. And the Pope...ugh. Yea. You also have scholarship and academia mining the very life out of the story until the Christianity you are left with is a twisted homunculus made of straw. These are the trajectories being salvaged for converts like myself. And it took the very ‘spirit of the Times’ mindset that the Enlightenment mid-wifed into the post modern nihilism we have now. I’m sorry I hope that point is clear?
@@FiremanKevin well said. Just throwing it out there, I like to listen to various perspectives in Christian thought including Voddie Bauchum, Tony Evans, Dr. Michael Heiser, Inspiring Philosophy, and of course Jonathon Pagaeu here. Never Osteen. Pretty much a self help guru.
I asked some friends of mine "What is a novel you love? What comes to mind?" Two of them named Laurus. No other novel was named by more than one person. Laurus was in company with works such as Dostoevsky's Demons, Kipling's Kim, Lewis's Till We Have Faces, Dickens's Our Mutual Friend, Lindsay's A Voyage to Arcturus, Warren's All the King's Men, &c.
How revealing! This talk contained analogies to themes of Laurus. There was some weirdness with time, maybe due to timezone differences and sleep deprivation on Vodolazkin's part, and then there was the language thing. Laurus is in the same category as The Iliad, Divine Comedy and Brothers Karamazov in importance. Tarkovsky may have been a sculptor of time. Vodolazkin is a master iconographer of time.
All my favorites: Dante’s Commedia, the Irish monastic movement coming from the Egyptian Desert Fathers, the circling of space and the spiral straight out of Celtic Christianity!
I'm excited to listen to this. I'm just a few chapters into the book, so I may wait until later. Jonathan, have you read Susanna Clark's book Piranesi? It's really something.
@@samargles I think this is hard to articulate concisely but what I caught his meaning to be is that “snake” is something like an archetype which - at least in the subconscious- holds meaning much broader than just materially or biologically speaking, a reptile which slithers across the ground (or water) , and that such a creature and something like meteorite which streaks through the night sky share a common ancestor, so to speak, in the form of a major overarching pattern or trope that can fracture into various smaller concepts in order to become more tangible to our limited human understanding. So we could say that we have tribes -or as JP likes to say, principalities - of connected symbols - such as a comet or a rope or a flowing river or a phallus or a serpent or what have you - and these various smaller fractal manifestations may then all be reconnected into the broader essence of “Snake” in order to show us the deeper meaning. But people have forgotten this, so often now we just take these shards of meaning at face value without ever connecting them to the big picture. This would be to “call a snake a meteorite”. That’s my sense of it anyway; hope that helps.
@@heatherlee4402 Future reply but I think it is much simpler than this. I think what they meant was that the snake was the proverbial existential scare. That which might emerge from the shadows and become your downfall. And in our materialist modernity we are (or at least I am) frequently seeing scares and news related to the next possible meteorite that will be our undoing.
@@TheFeralcatz I appreciate your interest in my religious/spiritual orientation. I am a Christian mystic and contemplative. Of what religious/spiritual orientation are you?
@@theconstructionmonk All I know is you have an epic beard... Also what makes you believe Christ is not a man? Do you believe he became flesh (human)? If so, does he uniquely transcend gender?
Slow boy here, just finished the book... Normally I only read nonfictional texts, both orthodox and geopolitical, but this book I really enjoyed. Any recommendations of this caliber?
Haven’t crossed YT paths with you in a while. Didn’t know you listened to Pagaeu. What do you think of his content? I’m reading his brother’s book currently.
Dr Robert Lanza reports his thoughts of progression of human development as the “Biocentrism” phase of the divine plan you may enjoy and even interview asap🤗 also the consideration of cultural forensics by Professors D. Hamamoto might interest you?
I’m looking for it right now, that passage he talked about sounds brilliant. I think it might be his book „A History of the Island“, however I’m not sure.
Jonathon, have you read ‘Kristin Lavransdatter’? I have read Laurus and enjoyed it very much. Please please read Krisin Lavransdatter too. You will not be sorry M
Readers who rely on English texts, like me, should get the Kristin trilogy as translated by Tiina Nunnally. There is an older translation, but Nunnally's reads better.
Why do I get the feeling I'm getting hit with the "Krishnakov" soon as I walk outside? Reading back what "he" [the other me] said about the extra ad lib's earlier could have easily been, mistaken, for an attack on this mans intellect, when clearly we all know that this mans a literal genius. At this moment, I'm actually the one, that's the complete opposite of the side of myself that compelled me to be a comedian earlier. This isn't the first time one of "his" jokes got me into hot water, either.
@@dalenelson8254I speak Japanese and Chinese better than he speaks English…. And all without saying ummmm every 2 seconds. Having unmmm verbal ticks in your speech isn’t a necessary part of language development.
It's unfortunate someone compelled you to listen to it. It would have been much better for all of us, if you would have been able to just stop listening and move on.
a damn clumsy mess, full of stale language, cliches and anachronisms. but maybe it reads better in english (lol). who knows. ill check the video nevertheless.
I'm not sure what you are referring to, since you appear to be commenting on the video before having watched it. As far as the novel is concerned, I'll mention that I taught it in an introductory college course on Russian fiction in translation, and Laurus went over well with my students.
in English it reads like parts of it are supposed to be out of place in a postmodern way kind of like House of Leaves. I wasn't sure if that was the translation or intentional, but it added to the mystery of the novel for me.
@@chrisc7265 haven't thought about House of Leaves in a while but that book was also good! Not one I recommend for many people, but, like Laurus, the disjointedness adds to the experience of the story, you're absolutely right on that one!
@@sanda1924 You say that, but it is very hard to enjoy this conversation when you yourself are not exactly fluent in English. So, those of us who are not native speakers have real problems with following someone's train of thought who also is not very fluent. If it makes any sense. The subject of the talk is also rather difficult, with a lot of difficult terms. Now that my curiosity is tickled, I want Jonathan's explanation of Vodolazkin's ideas or there will be riots in the street, I swear. 😅
@@Wolf-Spirit_Alpha-Sigma I am not fluent in English either but with a little effort I understand everything..he is speaking at a slow pace and it is using simple vocabulary but the ideas and the explanations are not simple. I will read the book once more
Thank you, Eugene and Jonathan. I enjoyed hearing from the author. I felt I was changing as I read Laurus. When I finished the novel I felt like I lost a brother.
spoiler?
I was in tears towards the end of the novel. Thank you for Laurus!
Jonathan loves it when guests talk about Dog Headed Men. 😂🐕
Highly recommend 1.25 speed. Makes it much easier to listen to.
2x speed was slow enough
Thank You! You safed me.
I'm guessing you're a Ben Shapiro fan
@@tarsan894 bahaha
I made it 13min and had to tap out. I’ll try your 1.25 speed truck.
I loved this book. It was like being immersed in another world.
Wow, I was just thinking about buying his book and then this talk happens. Thank you, Jonathan!
Same here. Forgot how i came across it but had screenshotted it to remind myself, just a couple weeks ago. Synchronicity!
me too! i just got it on audible
Highly recommend this book
Same here, bought yesterday after the talk!
Highly recommend. I’m on my third reading.
Best author of the 21st century for my money.
really? what makes it so great? do you read a lot? nowadays people dont have patience to read if they are hjooked to social media
@@Hbmd3E what 21st century novels would you put above Laurus? Actually curious
Any great 21st century books to recommend ?
@@zarathustrap2562 icon by Georgia Briggs is a masterpiece and a joy to read, a short read though, about 200 pages
1:03 _Laurus_ connecting an Ancient vision of reality working out through the difficulties of Post-Modern Society.
1:59 Breakdown of coherence.
*Eugene Vodolazkin*
2:45 Thank you.
2:53 Limited space and time, borders.
3:09 Finitude.
3:21 Border.
3:27 Finitude is a Border. The border is not only what separates, it is also something that indicates interation.
3:40 “It is possible to interact with the person, with the country, with the culture that is near.”
4:01 The Disappearance of Borders between States, between People.
4:23 There is nothing wrong in this. But if you look more closely, with a loss of boundaries, differences disappear.
4:52 Pandemic 2020.
*Back to Laurus*
5:56 Back to Laurus.
6:15 Characters transcend both space and time.
6:39 Doing with space and time, overcoming boundaries metaphysically. Going where there is neither space nor time.
7:24 Overcoming borders.
7:37 A confusion of linearity and of space and time, but moving towards transcendence.
8:17 Transcendence.
8:49 Medieval People and Time. 40 years, 50 years.
9:25 Direct Call to The Heaven.
11:05 Monasteries were the Universities Schools 🏫
11:48 “again and again.” “Movement towards The Union of Heaven and Earth.”
13:12 History is a teacher of the life.
13:37 Circle History ⭕️ and Linear History 📈
14:40 Spiral 🌀 History has it’s rhymes. Things come back. (Fractals? Same pattern, different levels)
15:25 Toupus and Anti-Toupus.
16:36 The New Jerusalem. Transformation. Upward to God. ⬆️
18:08 Embrace of Realism. Holy Fools and Miracles.
19:11 Christian Re-enchantment of The World.
20:37 _The Island_
21:27 Different notions.
22:12 Painting a meteorite as a snake.🐍 dragon 🐉
23:35 Now they call snake a meteorite.
24:17 Category like Dragon 🐉 .
25:04 If God Will, He will show and tell how it actually was.
25:48
26:45
27:24 Desire for Unity of Story.
29:51 St Christopher with a dog’s head.
32:04 Solstice.
33:25 Fight or Incorporate. Speak others language.
35:17 Collaboration.
36:26 Mythology is a special metaphorical language of poetry.
38:00 J.R.R. Tolkien.
40:03 The Phenomenon of Soul.
43:09 Art. 🖼️
I've been waiting to finish the book in order to listen to this podcast.
Спасибо за интервью, Евгений Германович.
So excited for this. This is one of my favorite books. Changed my life, along with Lilith, Silence and others. But those are the big hitters.
I really wish Jonathan would do a movie review of Silence, would be interesting to see how he'd take it
Which Lilith and Silence are you referring to? Curious if they're in the same category as Laurus.
@@artrickk Seconded.
Great interview! I bought Laurus after watching and finished reading it a couple of days ago. I loved it! Arseny's journey is still travelling through my mind. When I'm watching a show or a commercial, I'm taken back to Arseny's world, wondering what he would think of our world today? I can't help but wonder where the virtuous man is hiding today? Are there true Holy Fools to protect us from devils? Is redemption possible with all the "progress" shoved in our faces on a daily basis? Yes, this story is such a harbinger of hope for our technological imbalanced world.
More videos on "THE MEDIEVAL MIND" please!!!
Just finished Laurus yesterday. 10/10.
The closing points are beautiful. Prior to my conversion, a large part of my aversion to Christianity was certainly the ‘stink’ of what was ‘Christian’ art. Vapid and bleached and propagandistic.
This exciting and vivifying ‘return to narrative’ has been so needed. Scripture, icons, the patristics, Rachmaninov and his contemporaries, and stories like Laurus.. all integral in restoring what the West hi-jacked away from us. The richness of the biblical narrative properly framed.
The WEST ?
@@sunnyroad5644 yes, the West. A long degradation from the Schism to The Renaissance to the Enlightenment with Calvinism and so on to today’s ‘prosperity gospel’. Not to mention the western export of Communism and the like. So instead of saying all that. I thought I’d just say the west.
@@FiremanKevin I think it's a stretch to portray various developments in that language. .The schism hasn't held orthodoxy back ? Catholicism has been held back in my opinion only by it's disinterest in teaching people the 'mysteries' and in depth understanding of Christian teachings. All these Churches have have taken their Congregation for granted . I know many Greeks who known little or nothing about their religion,but would call themselves Orthodox. It's taken Jordan Peterson a agnostic to come along and 'shame', some of them into taking action.It was through Jordan Peterson ,that I ,a very very lapsed Catholic am finding my way back into communal religious worship. {which is very important]His interview with Jonathon Pageau absolutely kick started me. These Churches and their leaders are open to corruption as any other institution. Pope Francis is as corrupt and as stupid as any Pope in history,you actually have to ignore that.
@@sunnyroad5644 I’m sorry I wasn’t clear. I didn’t mean these occurrences to have ‘held back Orthodoxy’. It’s always been and always will be there for people.
I very literally meant the whole Christian narrative being... anesthetized to the point where you get Joel Osteen’s and other clowns as the face most Americans put to Protestantism. And the Pope...ugh. Yea.
You also have scholarship and academia mining the very life out of the story until the Christianity you are left with is a twisted homunculus made of straw. These are the trajectories being salvaged for converts like myself. And it took the very ‘spirit of the Times’ mindset that the Enlightenment mid-wifed into the post modern nihilism we have now.
I’m sorry I hope that point is clear?
@@FiremanKevin well said. Just throwing it out there, I like to listen to various perspectives in Christian thought including Voddie Bauchum, Tony Evans, Dr. Michael Heiser, Inspiring Philosophy, and of course Jonathon Pagaeu here. Never Osteen. Pretty much a self help guru.
What a beautiful story.
Wow! What an honor and privilege to listen in on this conversation! Thank you for having the conversation and for publishing the conversation.
Thank you Eugene and Jonathan. Laurus is one of my favorite books.
Perfect! I'm currently in the middle of the book and enjoying it.
BEEN WAITING FOR THIS FOR MONTHS THIS IS GONNA BE EPIC
Yes!!! Been waiting for this conversation. Read Laurus last week at the start of the Pandemic and fell in love with it.
I loved his book so much that I gave it away (& bought another one).
Absolutely loved the book. I hope Jonathan talks about it more after this interview.
I have the same problem in communicating in English even after 20 years of living in USA my mind runs way faster that my tongue can speak :))
Just finished the book. Excellent!
I read the book after listening to this. I loved it.
It's times like these that transcripts are much appreciated. Awesome guy though
!!! This is my favorite novel. Can’t wait to listen!!
I asked some friends of mine "What is a novel you love? What comes to mind?" Two of them named Laurus. No other novel was named by more than one person. Laurus was in company with works such as Dostoevsky's Demons, Kipling's Kim, Lewis's Till We Have Faces, Dickens's Our Mutual Friend, Lindsay's A Voyage to Arcturus, Warren's All the King's Men, &c.
@@dalenelson8254 thanks for a summer reading list! 😜
Thanks for the tip - just ordered a copy!
Loved this novel.
Great interview!
So much content! Wondeful. I can barely keep up between you and Jordan etc. Keep it coming though…
Thank you very much for genuine russian accent :)
How revealing! This talk contained analogies to themes of Laurus. There was some weirdness with time, maybe due to timezone differences and sleep deprivation on Vodolazkin's part, and then there was the language thing.
Laurus is in the same category as The Iliad, Divine Comedy and Brothers Karamazov in importance.
Tarkovsky may have been a sculptor of time. Vodolazkin is a master iconographer of time.
I'm done with Part 1 and it was a real tear jerker!
All my favorites: Dante’s Commedia, the Irish monastic movement coming from the Egyptian Desert Fathers, the circling of space and the spiral straight out of Celtic Christianity!
And Chesterton. His books come alive, as you read. They are truly conversations.
where to read more about Irish monastics and their connections to Egypt?
Best book ever. No joke.
Thank you to both Jonathan and Eugene. I'll definitely be getting this novel. Are there other books on the Medieval mind one can recommend?
I'm excited to listen to this. I'm just a few chapters into the book, so I may wait until later. Jonathan, have you read Susanna Clark's book Piranesi? It's really something.
Thanks
Really? I usually listen at .75
Nice! -- great book.
That joke at the end was great
Great book.
“...and now they call a snake a meteorite.” Feels like he just unlocked another room in the basement of my brain.
I didn't understand that bit. Can any one explain?
@@samargles I think this is hard to articulate concisely but what I caught his meaning to be is that “snake” is something like an archetype which - at least in the subconscious- holds meaning much broader than just materially or biologically speaking, a reptile which slithers across the ground (or water) , and that such a creature and something like meteorite which streaks through the night sky share a common ancestor, so to speak, in the form of a major overarching pattern or trope that can fracture into various smaller concepts in order to become more tangible to our limited human understanding. So we could say that we have tribes -or as JP likes to say, principalities - of connected symbols - such as a comet or a rope or a flowing river or a phallus or a serpent or what have you - and these various smaller fractal manifestations may then all be reconnected into the broader essence of “Snake” in order to show us the deeper meaning. But people have forgotten this, so often now we just take these shards of meaning at face value without ever connecting them to the big picture. This would be to “call a snake a meteorite”. That’s my sense of it anyway; hope that helps.
@@heatherlee4402 Future reply but I think it is much simpler than this.
I think what they meant was that the snake was the proverbial existential scare. That which might emerge from the shadows and become your downfall. And in our materialist modernity we are (or at least I am) frequently seeing scares and news related to the next possible meteorite that will be our undoing.
@@samargles a bit late here, but watch the video Jonathan did with Matthieu a few years back, it’s in his basics of symbolism playlist.
The way in which this man weighs his words reminds me of treebeard.
Or the Ent in general. Great reference. 😄
English isn't his first language, so he's doing a better and faster job of finding his words than most of us would do in Russian.
@@deborahstrickland9845 Of course! I didn't say it to mock him. I like treebeard; he's a legendary character.
I’ve got the novel somewhere! Gotta read it now!
Loved the priest drunk Busdriver joke at the end. God escapes our boxes and works beyond the order we often form around him/her. Amen!!
God is not a woman you jew
@@TheFeralcatz True, nor is God a man. And we need not bicker over finite terms used to describe the infinite. Amen!!
@@theconstructionmonk Are you somekind of unitarian jew or something?
@@TheFeralcatz I appreciate your interest in my religious/spiritual orientation. I am a Christian mystic and contemplative. Of what religious/spiritual orientation are you?
@@theconstructionmonk All I know is you have an epic beard... Also what makes you believe Christ is not a man? Do you believe he became flesh (human)? If so, does he uniquely transcend gender?
An antidote to modern novels
Slow boy here, just finished the book... Normally I only read nonfictional texts, both orthodox and geopolitical, but this book I really enjoyed. Any recommendations of this caliber?
First! Been waiting for this.
❤
Logos Rising
Haven’t crossed YT paths with you in a while. Didn’t know you listened to Pagaeu. What do you think of his content? I’m reading his brother’s book currently.
@@iliya3110 Hi! I think he’s brilliant and a great commentator of the culture, unique perspective as well. How’s the book?
Dr Robert Lanza reports his thoughts of progression of human development as the “Biocentrism” phase of the divine plan you may enjoy and even interview asap🤗 also the consideration of cultural forensics by Professors D. Hamamoto might interest you?
Eugene talked about a book wherein there is a movie director and a medieval man having a conversation. Has that book been released yet?
I’m looking for it right now, that passage he talked about sounds brilliant. I think it might be his book „A History of the Island“, however I’m not sure.
"Deeply mediocre". Man, that leaves a mark. True, and needs to be said. That rips of the bandage though for sure.
Let’s goooooooo
Does this contain spoilers?
I would say yes
Jonathon, have you read ‘Kristin Lavransdatter’? I have read Laurus and enjoyed it very much. Please please read Krisin Lavransdatter too. You will not be sorry
M
Readers who rely on English texts, like me, should get the Kristin trilogy as translated by Tiina Nunnally. There is an older translation, but Nunnally's reads better.
4:51
Eugene is fighting not to sleep
Are you aware that latest extra-terrestrial radio comms arriving on earth come in form of spirals?
Count how many times this dude says Uhhh and Uhhnmm.
I know that English isn't his first language, certainly better than my Russian, but boy is he hard to listen to.
I felt the same way but stuck with, it gets easier.
Tolkien. Potter. Alright then.
Same thought here.
Why do I get the feeling I'm getting hit with the "Krishnakov" soon as I walk outside? Reading back what "he" [the other me] said about the extra ad lib's earlier could have easily been, mistaken, for an attack on this mans intellect, when clearly we all know that this mans a literal genius. At this moment, I'm actually the one, that's the complete opposite of the side of myself that compelled me to be a comedian earlier. This isn't the first time one of "his" jokes got me into hot water, either.
Imagine being Jon and actually having to participate live….
How good is your Russian? When your Russian is as good as Eugene's English, get back to us.
@@dalenelson8254I speak Japanese and Chinese better than he speaks English…. And all without saying ummmm every 2 seconds. Having unmmm verbal ticks in your speech isn’t a necessary part of language development.
It's unfortunate someone compelled you to listen to it. It would have been much better for all of us, if you would have been able to just stop listening and move on.
@@MarcumDavid same could be said for my comment and you reading it.
a damn clumsy mess, full of stale language, cliches and anachronisms. but maybe it reads better in english (lol). who knows. ill check the video nevertheless.
I'm not sure what you are referring to, since you appear to be commenting on the video before having watched it. As far as the novel is concerned, I'll mention that I taught it in an introductory college course on Russian fiction in translation, and Laurus went over well with my students.
If you mean the book I got the impression it is supposed to be anachronistic and broken.
in English it reads like parts of it are supposed to be out of place in a postmodern way kind of like House of Leaves. I wasn't sure if that was the translation or intentional, but it added to the mystery of the novel for me.
@@chrisc7265 haven't thought about House of Leaves in a while but that book was also good! Not one I recommend for many people, but, like Laurus, the disjointedness adds to the experience of the story, you're absolutely right on that one!
what’s with all this “uh uh”??
Its incredibly difficult to listen to him
He is Russian and speaking in a language that is not his..he is making an effort ..why is so difficult for us to do the same???
he's speaking a second language, chill out
@@sanda1924 You say that, but it is very hard to enjoy this conversation when you yourself are not exactly fluent in English. So, those of us who are not native speakers have real problems with following someone's train of thought who also is not very fluent. If it makes any sense. The subject of the talk is also rather difficult, with a lot of difficult terms. Now that my curiosity is tickled, I want Jonathan's explanation of Vodolazkin's ideas or there will be riots in the street, I swear. 😅
@@Wolf-Spirit_Alpha-Sigma I am not fluent in English either
but with a little effort I understand everything..he is speaking at a slow pace and it is using simple vocabulary but the ideas and the explanations are not simple. I will read the book once more