2017 Personality 19: Biology & Traits: Openness/Intelligence/Creativity II
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- AUDIO CORRECTED VERSION: In this lecture, I complete my discussion of Big Five trait openness to experience, which is the dimension composed of an amalgam of creativity and intelligence. I also discuss IQ: how it is measured, what it means, how powerfully it predicts long-term life success, as well as the highly skewed Pareto distribution of creative production.
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...roughly speaking.
Brilliant
ThompsonDB such dry humor
thats such a coarse joke (͡ ͡° ͜ つ ͡͡°)
LMAO Bro
lmfao
Can we appreciate the fact that there's a guy who just follows Jordan back and fourth with a camera for an hour straight
Yep! 🙏🏽
Unironically, that would be a great internship, to sit in on lectures for free in exchange for handling a camera
is it maybe face tracking? i have zero idea but like, why that job lol, taking vid of whole area would be easier.
@@yes7855 yeah i give that idea a thought, but face tracing often keep it on the center, this is a person behind camera
@@TheNME lmao then it’s confirmed 😂 kinda crazy
I love how he evolves during every class he teaches. He begins off quite calm and you can really see him become more and more passionate and into the moment as he speaks.
Calm bfo the storm
Class is early morning that’s why
It’s the little dopamine kicks as he progresses toward his teaching goals 😊
YES❣️❣️❣️
These lectures are truly changing my life. It's unbelievable. I've stopped drinking, gotten a great job in my chosen field (psychology and human services) and have an overall sense of renewed purpose where as before I was jaded and cynical. While other variables were def at play, you have been a huge port in the storm for me. Thank you so very much, Jordan. I look forward to meeting you someday.
Who am I? that sounds great. hope the best for you!
Try checking out some videos explaining the views of Jung / Nietsche ?
You've left this comment two years ago. How's life so far?
@Jonathan Dunn he means alcohol,
That's awesome. Cheers! (unironically)
This lecture would work equally as well in an economics class.
I did save this into the "Finance" -playlist. This is harsh but eye-opening information, and highlights many peculiarities of success. One of the best advice ever: "Do not quit your day job".
This information is useful for almost any subject, the thing I live about psychology is it's applications to many areas of life
You should consider repeating questions before answering them, they are a bit hard to hear in the recordings.
Not that I don't see your point, but you can formulate what the questions were based on the answer he gives. He moves fast in thought and these students are on top of their game, so he's economizing their time.
MRKetter81 I see what you're saying but I dont think that an extra maybe 5 sentences per video is a terrible sacrifice to make to be more accessible to hundreds of thousands of people. I guess that decision is up to Mr. Peterson.
Alternatively, he could add an annotation onto the actual video of the question so it's available that way. Solves both problems.
Samantha Rogan you could *rewind*
@@marciofranca6125 Pretty sure his 1.4 million subs brings in a good lump of change.
Fun use for a brick: Split it in half and place the halves on two pedestals in an art gallery. Congratulations, you have now created a thoughtful and deconstructive commentary on the inherent porousness of societal structures vs our tendency to see said structures as monolithic and immutable. Or something.
That is well done. Leave out the or something.
grind it to a fine powder and sell it as powder paprika.
i like the or something in the end lmao
Or toothpaste
@@godwotan Eureka
Outline of this lecture:
0:00 Conservatives and liberals
3:29 Working memory strongly predicts IQ
6:18 What does it mean to think creatively ?
7:17 Creative - novel and useful
8:58 Fluency [ aspect of creativity ]
9:47 Originality [ aspect of creativity ]
11:01 Creative achievement questionaire
12:17 Difficulties with creativity - it's a high risk/high return strategy
18:51 Pareto principle
22:44 Real problem is generating ideas that no one else thought of
24:16 Tangent: difficulties of writing a book
26:10 Back to questionaire
29:15 More difficulties with monetizing
31:32 Price's law
33:37 Wealth distribution
37:50 Sustainability of companies
39:49 Predicting creative achievement
43:55 Creativity is associated with higher than average probability of psychosis
44:24 Creativity helps to reduce existential anxiety
47:45 Openness predicts creative achievement in the arts, while intellect predicts achievement in sciences.
Thanks a lot for this! Your outline is very good and really useful! Much appreciated!
How?!
It's very interesting how his students actually clap for him at the end. How many professors get THAT at the end of their lectures?
Here in germany every professor gets it. Maybe its less common in canada
At my uni in the U.K. (Cambridge) it was very common
It seems less common in America, not sure why this is
This is an incomplete outline that I made for my own reference.
5:48 How to define creativity (creative achievements / ideas)
12:16 The curse of creativity
31:30 Price's Law - Square root of the number of people in a domain do 50% of the work. Of 10,000 employees 100 do half the work!
39:46 Can you predict creative achievement?
44:25 Creativity and terror management
Mat C thank you for posting it!
thanx
Oh my thank you so much
@@hgt1758 You're welcome :)
Thank you
Ah, I was missing the "always late girl". Glad she showed up on this class.
28:32 look at how Dr peterson stoped the class and listened to that person as if it is the teacher daamn how humble
I'm so happy we have the internet so I can watch these videos when I'm 40. Thank you Dr. Peterson!
Kayli Friedman lol are you turning 40 soon?
@@rafaelmiramontes7953 nah she still riding the c carousel
Same here
Since I caught this video pretty early I'd assume you're more likely to see this,
I'd like to sincerely thank you for making this available to everyone for free, and would like to encourage you to persevere.
Now go do
that voodoo
that you do
so well!
I really appreciate it as well. Hi from South Africa.
Nick cheats - he waits all day and nite for JBP to upload, and BAM! he smokes us.
J William Pope smoking darts and breaking hearts
Germany needs more JBP,too!so glad I found your channel,because it's a constant source of motivation and focus.
I literally clapped at: "If you make a good, creative product, you've probably solved about 5% of your problem."
Why?
@@Pearlylove because a lot of people think you are 90 or 95% of the way to successfully selling and distributing a product once the product is created. He shows clearly that is not the case at all since distribution/selling/marketing/timing is so critical to making that wonderful new product actually sell and become successful.
I love how he tells it how it is, doesn't sugarcoat it all. Much needed in this world.
19:04 Two years later, Price's law proved to be true for JBP. 0 > 0 > 0 > Skyrockets!!!
He articulates so well thoughts that I have had but never put into words because my peers for the most part don't don't think at this level. Still I learn so much everytime I listen to any of his lectures.
You have a double negation that makes your comment kinda confusing
@@videnobuoka3475 yeah seems like English is not his first language. But hey, he's trying
Begin self diagnosis.......scanning....Bucko identified, commencing self sorting protocol......loading.....loading......30% sorted, by my estimation......loading...
...loading......your father is in the cave......
Beginning the program
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YeahGoodLuckWithThat.dll
Funny, but you don't "open" ddl's xD
I love that there's a humor developing within these threads about Peterson's idiosyncrasies
"Bricks can be used by teachers to ask their children what bricks can be used for."
Me to Mr Elliott at Primary School when he asked the class what bricks can be used for ( c.1985 ).
Musicians' 1st Law: Do not quit your day job!
facts
Lol
This was important to hear, he's so right. I used to say, it doesn't matter how good or lucky you or are or hard you work, you need all 3 and music biz isn't about playing instruments... He just said it clearer with studies to back it up
Nice
From drugs, booze,criminality and dysfunctionallity to healthy eating, fitness, own business, goals and hope. this blokes wisdom has helped on my journey like nothing else.
@@proudatheist2042 good mate cheers
I appreciate the fact that you put these lectures online for all of us that cannot attend. It is a fantastic course you are teaching, and I envy those that see you in person. Than you for your hard work.
highlights and favorite parts:
22:58 a definition of creativity and a wrong definition of creativity
35:00 famous classic musicians 5%
36:19 The 1% of rich people
45:00 creativity and remembering our mortality
Dr. Peterson showed Scarce what a real double upload is
JaraLara I thought I heard this before...
I thought I was original... Thanks, now that my self-esteem is damaged, I'll go watch more Peterson
@@jaralara6429 keep watching. He'll break down that he doesn't think self esteem exists.
"Number of hockey goals scored"
Canadian detected
"Number of basketballs successfully... put through the hoop" He definitely watches hockey more than basketball. So very Canadian indeed.
Lmao
"Creativity is rougly with how many different answers to a question you can come up with that are unlikely in a larger group of people that are useful. " that's a great definition
Creativity is :
How many ways can you escape from the same trap, where your previous method has now been assured against.
This lecture is humbling. Most of us are mediocre. It's important to come to terms with this, especially in relation to creative endeavors.
Am highly gifted here.
I can’t believe these are free. Thank you mr peterson
Finding a user name is something, we all are forced to be creative. It has to be new and it has to be "good".
You just spelled yours wrong. It should be Großer Salat not Grosser 😉
I always sucked at it..
@@HB-gt6cq I cannot burden the internet with such strange letters ;)
@@grossersalat578 thank u
*implication of meat being a good name
@@meat981
Only first year students will applause for a class but only for the first week. Normally, if it were a good lecture, students might applause at the end of the semester. JBP receives an applause for every single lecture 😂 I love this dude.
So much so that he was accused of putting "clapping audio" at the end of every lecture.
I've been taking notes while watching all these lectures on TH-cam. There's been so much useful knowledge and insights that I now need to buy another notebook for the final 3 lectures.
Ironic, he goes into detail how difficult it is to get a book published let alone sell it, and now he has a best seller
Perhaps ironic, or perhaps he is that tiny percentage of people that can and he speaks from experience
he became famus and a lot of good things started
Most books don’t have the cult following he established before the book was released. The same happened for David Goggins. If you can find anyway to go viral before you do a book, the odds of success are far greater which feeds into his Pareto principal as well.
Peterson is the living embodiment of the "Pareto Principle" that he talks about. He just happens to be one of the very rare & very successful people.
Well I think it could be because he became popular on social media (TH-cam). If you can gain some kind of popularity, your product has potential to sell.
Mr Peterson, I am wordless trying to express the importance and value that your speaches are to me. I abmire your amazing integrity, self-respect and truthfulness. Thank you Sir.
Jordan Peterson... a modern day prodigy of deep thought, self and world analysis and life in general. Thank You good Professor.
Excellent lecturing, the way Dr Peterson disseminates information and includes all his students in the process.
Thanks to your willingness and courage to say what you really think is that I could find you and your channel. Then, thanks to that, after watching so many of your videos, I'm making some serious and conscious effort to sort myself out (no joke).
You're a role model and a contemporaneous example of the power of free and honest speech.
6:25 What is thinking creatively & testing for creativity
23:28 & 44:25 intellect and openness
35:09 Price's law of success
I appreciate his many moments of pause and careful thought before speaking. A characteristic of an intellect.
I don’t think I went through a single lecture in college where the class applauded the lecturer at the end. Truly a testament of Dr. Peterson’s impact
Learning English with Mr Peterson! English is worth knowing, amongst many other points, by being able to understand this guy!
I'd like to offer an objection to one thing JP's saying in this video. Specifically, telling creative people to find a (non creative) way to make money and do your creative stuff on the side. Reality isn't necessarily even nearly as grim as he makes it seem, if you're willing to look for something outside of your certain creative niche that scratches the same itch.
I spent my teens / early adult years trying to make music as a career. When that seemed hopeless, I learned to paint and I'm now working as a concept artist in the film/gaming industry. And the demand for creative people in this industry (animators, programmers, 3d modellers etc) is enormous. The revenue generated from these industries is also enormous.
So, if you're like me and you need to work creatively, jump into the entertainment industry. It's not a lottery, there's plenty of work.
Don't shortchange yourself. You are probably one of the few using prices law.
Speaking as one whose undergraduate career was heavily slanted toward mathematics and computer science, thank you for posting these valuable lectures!
Random thoughts about Prices law and hyper-performers. Not what I believe, but what *might* play a role.
1) Some minority of people are hyper-performers. The ones that are recognized are nurtured and reinforced.
2) Talent is hard to find and it takes talent to notice, short of the tail extreme being blindingly obvious. Reduced interaction and increased noise between the upper percentile and the general population makes it less probable of other talent to notice.
3) My guess.... is as a company grows, bureaucracy and interactive insulation at least limits some hyper-performer's ability to be noticed. Along with reduced spontaneous promotion to a position of influence.
4) The whole is greater than the sum of its parts. As a group, the hyper-performers can represent a high percentage of value, but at least some of their value is from the "others".
5) In many areas, hyper-performers can have a trickle-down effect by exposing limitations in the current system or directly participating in enhancing the system and makes all others more efficient. This means their value scales with the number of other employees.
Interesting ideas
What I would give to be a graduate student of Peterson's. Invaluable intellectual apprenticeship I'm sure. Love these lectures, they make my day.
...this true master of self-reflexion, in order to detect and work on intrinsic behaviour, reducing damage on one self and on society,
kept lecturing and explaining constantly nearly 24/7 during my harmfully spent last 3 days since my dad passed away...
i actually do not exaggerate when i gratefully thank this guy for being as true and honest the way he is,
and there for I proudly share the incredible speech of Mr. Jordan Peterson.
Thank you very much.
Wonderful lectures, much thanks to Jordan and all of his team for uploading them so we're able to watch and learn.
I am an artist by trade, actually make a living, but I tell you I backed off anyone that colored their hair weird colors because most of the time they just were talkers and their craft tended to be meaniless and shitty. I am kind but not blind. I think a bunch of people who claim to be artist are frauds, insecure and afraid they will be found out.
Damsel In DETROIT it's true. I'm a hobby artist and I've always looked boring. :/
You just described half of a band who asked me to write for/with them...and become their Manager.
Notice i said "half"...the other half are genuine. How do i know?(one, maybe two..possibly close to genius)...YOU TEND TO KNOW.... if YOU are genuine.
Regards,
Sonic Foxx(songwriter),
SONIC FOXX MUSIC.
@@sonicfoxxmusic4281 What was it like winning DBZF at evo? That coinflip to reset to left side after loosing first round coming in from winners bracket: beautiful.
what about hair-dying to you means that an artist is more likely to be a fraud?
@anniebnannie what kind of art do you make?
Thank for all these, Peterson!
"...use your stupid product..." XD cracks me up every time!
One of my favorite lectures
good to know I've been following my own intuition on the problem of creativity, and that you've echoed my sentiments. I am miserable without creating things, but have no interest in relying on creativity for income - because i feel it conflicts strongly with my goals to eventually raise a child.
Interesting take on novelty vs usability... I've decided i would Create based on my own novelty irregardless of utility for my own personal happiness (being my primary goal)
I'm happy to see more of Peterson that isn't about c16 or pronouns...
the truth no matter what Jordan
the doc is in the building! i love waking up to knowledge
Hell yea
Just finished my last final exam for the semester. Feels good to watch this knowing I'm not neglecting any further homework!
19:00 paretto distribution
00:00-48:57 amazing class, 10/10 would've love to attend, and would've integrated the applause and would've had a million things to talk with him after class and a million cuestions
got to make a comment to support JP. when you dream and you feel it is important and there is an element or theme about it think about the most important thing tied to that because it should put into context what your dreaming thoughts are trying to tell you. even something such as a squirrel can come loaded with meaning depending on how you are wired.
You are God sent to teach people about their own selves.
Thank you Jordan. A real life lesson.
Many ideas/art works were rejected at first and second but contributed so much to mankind. Most of the time people are not unique but if people would listen to these words (/statistics) there wouldnt be anything new or remarkable in the world.
Dr Peterson's way of speaking is contagious......roughly speaking.
Thus, has been my experience, Dr. Peterson, there are two mindsets, creative and competitive. In those two, we have the alternative right and extreme left. Both, do achieve active humanitarian explots.
I am a consultant and entrepreneur and what professor Peterson says about Creativity in Business, product development starting at 12:30 is DEAD ON. For anyone that wants to start a business, become an entrepreneur, if you have the fortune of someone to tell you what Jordan does in a few minutes... you can literally cut 20 years of failure. I am not exaggerating.
Why I love Peterson's approach on theoretical predictions is to systemize the outcome of success by intelligence and character traits, aiming to reduce the number of wishful thinking cases with horrible outcomes. But SZA, for example, enters the room and crushes all statistics. It only reaches a few of the predictable numbers and still wins. So, I guess there are many unpredictable things when it comes to success in terms of creativity. Since I knew her music when she wasn't successful and knew from the beginning that this is gold, I ask myself - how. And one of a hundred things I agree with him on is that creativity is a burden - if you don't live up to your potential, you can't be happy. So it's worth a try, regardless of the outcome.
Hi Dr. Peterson! I really enjoy your videos!
Thank you for uploading!!
Holy shit. I've been watching Jordan Peterson videos for well over a year, cant get enough of it. Usually just reposted videos or clips or podcasts from different channels. I never knew this entire time there was an actual channel for all of this a central hub where it all originated from. Not once was this channel reccomended and I've watch literally dozens of hours of this guy. I had to find it from a link in a comment of one of the clips previously mentioned. I havent really cared much or thought the youtube censorship was that big a deal up until I clicked that link. This channel should have popped up months ago in my reccomendations but all I see there is garbage. It's a tragedy that the people who are actually trying to help society with ideas that make sense are censored and demonized by the media.
Listening to Mozart Jupiter symphony today with new appreciation. Choice of series intro music intentional. C major key implies innocence
In being. Fresh and upbeat
I'm learning things that are novel and useful to me.
Brilliant Lecture
I love these lectures. Thank you
I remember a company, I think it was Rolls Royce for their turbine engines, sent me a small personal letter thanking me for my tooling design because it was unlike what every other company gave them. Even got to design a tool for Tesla's Model S when they were starting production. Thought that was really cool. That was right after college, I ended up leaving that company out of boredom shortly after and got into the controls automation world. Later I had Kodak fly out after a couple months as working as a controls engineer to explain to them how you could have a manufacturing machine auto calibrate and that it would be faster and more accurate. My productivity isn't high because I get bored very easily, but my guess is I'm always kept around for my creative solutions to complex problems.
Thank you Jordan. Now I see both sides like Chanel.
As someone who had extraordinarily high levels of creativity as a teen and in my early 20's I'm not so sure it was because I got lucky genetically, I believe its 100% down to the things I grew up doing from a very young age to a young adult. And i bet if you were to study the childhood of other people that grow up to be highly creative they likely spent large amounts of time doing similar things that developed their brains in ways that creative people are lacking.
Also, my creativity is no where near what it once was (although still higher than the average person it would seem) and i believe that to be because I don't spend much time these days doing the things that built it and are most likely also required to retain it. I was literally like a human idea factory that could generate idea upon idea and then take those ideas and sculpt them further into better ideas, or combine ideas that already exist into greater ones.... all in my head visually effortlessly. It gave me a great sense of humour as I was always thinking outside the box in ways my peer group couldn't and then transfer my thoughts into language that would create amusing visual images in others minds.
However, It also had negative affects on my life that other highly creative people may be able to relate to. For instance in social situations I could likely conjure multiple bad outcomes in my imagination that would be of a very vivid nature and make you hesitant to proceed for fear of them becoming reality, , which gave me social anxiety issues. Id often put my thoughts into others heads thinking they were thinking the same. Also at times my mind just wouldn't 'shut up' hard to relax and fall asleep when my brains just constantly generating new and interesting thoughts in my head or ones that are bad and cause worry. Insane, often times horrific and violent nightmares have also been commonplace for me throughout my life, but there has also been many nights where I've had dreams that were so good I wish they were a reality. I used think some of my dreams were so unique and original if expanded upon would make for great movies.
I am curious to know if i were to partake in what i believe to be creativity building exercises again would my mind return to its former ways.... its an area I have much interest in as for both personal gain - as its incredibly rewarding to create things of value in the world (even when not paid for it) but also helping others do the same.
Oh one other thing - Marijuana, when i used to smoke it its like steroids for a creative mind, I know a lot of musicians and other artists use it and thats probably why.
34:55 nice save Doc
💎 respect & loads of grattitude from belgium, sir Peterson
I respect this creativity 3x times a lot with you
Creative achievement in the arts is a fucntion of the higher-order trait plasticity, made up of extroversion and openess (particularly the aesthetic factor in the general openess trait, rather than intellect).
Thank you! Love these lectures
The new Power Point format is a great idea
Why am I so strangely attracted to these lectures??
I've finally got the hang of Thursday's!
I admire your lectures, from a non-intetellectual pespective. It uplifts me as often as it sets me down in regards of my flaws. But as you speak about the low probability ofsucceeding with new ideas/perspectives/strategies, i wonder what would be the outcome of a heroic story when the hero/heroine would consider the statistics of success (if there are any studies at all:)
I think that nearly invariably, true heroism comes either from not considering the odds against success or from observing those odds and defying them. I have no statistical data to back up this hypothesis.
this is why min/maxing is so important. it may not seem like much to be .0001% more efficient but if that means you get there first you win everything
I just thought up a good example. I watch videos at 2x speed, this means I can consume twice the amount of content as someone who watches at normal speed, allowing me to learn more faster
Meta builds for life. Lol
With paperback books you make 5% of less in royalties but with self publishing on amazon it's possible to make 70%. But it's actually incredible how when you buy a book for like 20 euros with free shipping if you take out taxes (where I live it's 24% VAT) it's 16 euros, and then you have to take out the amount for sending the book or mainting a storefront with the rent and employees..., another amount for the management costs of company selling the books, another part for your editor if you don't do it yourself, another amount for the marketing of the book if you self publish or for the publisher so you benefit from it's brand and distribution relationships, and obviously you have the cost of actually printing it if it's a physical book.
The median is not the mode. The median is the value in a distribution, or are the two value, for which there is an equal size of the population above and below that value. Median income is the point that divides the population into two halves in terms of earnings.
The modus is the most occurring value, that is the definition you give after 22:00. It could of course still be that the median and the modus are equal. But that doesn't make your definition of median correct.
What you describe is the mean. The median is the center of the parameter you measure. If you measure the income, and goed between 5-1000, the median is around 502,5. In a normalize distribution Z~(0,1), the median, the mean and the modus are the same.
indeed that's what I also noticed during this lecture.
It indeed doesn't make sense if the distribution was normal. In this case, however, it is Pareto distributed, so he is correct in saying that the median number is 0. Approximately half of the population has 0 creative productions.
@@rajinfootonchuriquen The median is found by rank ordering the incomes per individual, and taking the middle value of the ranks. (e.g. 50th percentile)
The mean (or average, or expectation value) is found by adding up all incomes, and dividing it by the population.
The mode/modus is the most occuring value.
If there are 10 million people in a country, the median is found by rank ordering all the incomes, and taking the 5 millionth value. The mean is found by adding up all the incomes, and dividing that by 10 million.
I was definitely talking about median, not mean.
@@Krasbin you are right. I was wrong
Love these talks. Would love them more if the intro was some sort of trap music track. Would clash beautifully.
Love your work
you always confirm that that I know but cant effectively articulate into mortal language
This should not be taught in universities but everywhere. All of this. Why do we learn about history, biology, chemistry, physics... all the essential parts of this world, but we do not learn about ourselves, about humans?
Darn! I wanted a longer lecture on Openness
very good advice for creative people. i give this advice to people. i'm a creative person,i make handmade original furniture and found out very quickly i'd better keep my carpentry business going to support my creative output. selling people on the cost of doing creative and novel work is a challenge.
i can't even count the number of people who were right at the verge of buying one of my pieces and backed out.
Call it new vintage.
Hi Jordan, I'm just stopping by to say i love you.
They clap at the end of your lectures, Dr. Peterson
It's fake! It's a track! It's a fraud!.... Or at least, so say his detractors!
Since i was young they are really part of it and until my world turn into gangstah life
the camera guy was pretty creative today
ahahaha i'm so thanful for this archive of knowledge!! mamma miaa
I suck at a lot of things. My best talent is creativity. I have never been able to apply it in life for work, success or stability. The best it has done for me is personal use or in rare occasions, helping others on a minimal basis.
If you try to use it at a job, mostly, you just anger people (peers and / or bosses), no matter how beneficial.
Tossing some business advice on those arts students; I like it.... 1% inspiration, 99% perspiration.
Thank you uploading your lecture, I am interested in a question that I don't think is on the questionnaire discussed. I would like to know, how useful would a question be that a work (creative output product) been stolen publicly or privately be for gauging someone's creativity as a measure of accomplishment?
Thumbs up for that intro.
i had a thought on the creative point. i think there is a difference between creative and imaginative where creative produces a useful product while imaginative is not geared towards usefulness