Heya, just wanted to put a note here regarding my segment and thinking on Victorian corsetting, as I’m seeing lots and lots of comments on it! As someone who absolutely loves Karolina Żebrowska’s channel, most of my prior personal information on historical clothing came from her and similar videos - I also thought that corsetting was never as exaggerated or sensationalised as it’s been made out to be in media. I’m not a historian, and I may be completely mistaken, in which case I genuinely genuinely apologise, my intent was never to mislead anyone and up until this research I very much shared sentiments with everyone in the comments who’s pointed out that tightlacing was never as widespread or damaging as previously believed. However, all the information I used to research for this video (I’ll link them again at the end of this comment) showed what I described in this video: that unlike prior corsets, which had been looser, more like supportive clothing and bras, during the Victorian Era the style of corsets changed such that they became much more restrictive and tight, enabled by metal eyelets and the new tightlacing. Larger skirts and padding were added slowly by women in attempts to achieve the look without having to restrict themselves as much - so I felt I had to use this information. What made me lean towards believing this more in the end, was the fact that flap surgery (which repairs burns) was actually developed and later used widely during WWI due to the huge number of women sufferring burns which were made more severe and common due to their massive and uncomfortable clothing. I read the book written by Dr Mutter himself in 1843 (linked below) where you can see in his own surgical notes that the female patients he operated on were victims of burns to their clothing, which alligned with the information in other sources too. I realise I sound awfully defensive, though my aim is to just describe my thinking for this segment, because quite a bit of thought went into it on my part! But I’m very very open to having my mind changed back, and welcome both challenges to the sources I’m linking here and extra sources for me to read. Please note TH-cam automatically censors any links posted, so any comment with a direct link cannot show up, but if you take the time to add your thoughts, please give a title of an article/paper and the name of the site it’s from, hopefully we can all that way find it! Lastly, I really want to apologise for any annoyance this framing has caused, I really was terrified of making this video, one of the main reasons being my delving into themes and topics in which I am definitely not an expert: like history. It saddens me to see I’ve actually frustrated quite a few of you and made you feel I’ve wasted your time and completely discredited all information once I mentioned the corsets and that era, so I do apologise for that! I definitely could’ve done more work on that segment, and probably shouldn’t have allowed myself to have had my mind changed as quickly as I did, but it wasn’t from little material! There were a few books and papers that corroborated this, even though my beliefs clearly may suggest a complete lack of reading in this direction! Sorry again, and lots of love xx Sources on corsets: Davies, Mel. “Corsets and Conception: Fashion and Demographic Trends in the Nineteenth Century.” Comparative Studies in Society and History, vol. 24, no. 4, 1982, pp. 611-41. JSTOR Cases of deformity from burns, successfully treated by plastic operations by Mütter, Thomas D. (Thomas Dent), 1811-1859 Consumptive chic : a history of beauty, fashion, and disease / Carolyn A. Day. 2017 Gernsheim, A. (1981). Victorian and Edwardian fashion : a photographic survey. New York: Dover. Maxwell, A. (2014). Patriots Against Fashion. Springer. PhillyVoice. (2023). In the 1840s, Dr. Mütter used a revolutionary ‘flap’ surgery to help burn patients. James Laver - The Concise History of Costume and Fashion (1969, Harry N. Abrams)
Why haven’t you addressed concerns about the sponsor better help? There’s many comments that you ignored but it’s not a good company to promote. Especially as a future doctor…
I think corsets became somewhat sugarcoated here on youtube too, from torture device now there is a trend of denying everything suggesting they were not that great sometimes, afterall they were left in the past and didnt become mainstream back
@@alexyssaubrie1606 based on my research (please correct me if I’m wrong) there was a class action lawsuit (for actions I definitely don’t condone) which was settled years ago. Since the issue was resolved, I don’t believe there’s been other legal concerns with the company? I’ve used them myself and found the therapist amazing and the platform super helpful to book and organise sessions with. I love and use online therapy, the company gifts tons of months of free therapy to communities in need. To me promoting it is promoting accessible therapy, which is one of the sponsorships I’d find easiest to say yes to, genuinely feel passionate talking about and feel would actually improve someone’s life. And that’s exactly what I get from using it myself. I’m not placing my moral responsibility fully onto others, but that some of my favourite creators (Johnny Harris - a deepdive researcher; Psychology is Seattle - who is also a therapist themselves for 20+ years) promote the company and especially the latter being one of the creators I respect the most for their integrity, honesty and knowledge, is what has so far made me feel that it’s ok to use and promote them. They provide a much needed service, and I’ve actually tried them and had a great experience.
elizabethfilips I believe you’re talking about the 2018 lawsuit. Additionally, in 2023 the FTC ordered them to pay huge sums of money back to customers because Betterhelp had been sharing confidential data with Facebook so that Facebook could use it for marketing purposes. Personally I don’t feel that’s a scandal a company comes back from, especially in only a year,, but it’s up to individuals to decide. Personally, I looked into it using Betterhelp. I found they cost more than twice as much as in person therapy, but was willing to accept that as the price of convenience. Then I filled out their form and was told that they can’t treat cases with my background, which isn’t even that extreme. So I guess it’s just very expensive therapy for people with very minor problems. But I bet they still kept my data. And sold it to Facebook.
Elizabeth! This is a masterclass in research, philosophy, art, history, video editing, scripting, storytelling & perspective. I am absolutely floored and inspired by this video. This should be a piece broadcast by the BBC.
PLEASE do not pay for Better Help. Look into their controversy first, coming from someone who used to use Better Help and had a commonly terrible experience
i wish more creators would listen to the therapists who have outed betterhelp for being terrible, unethical, illegal, etc. BEFORE they take sponsorships. however, they have to get food on the table somehow :///////// BIGG iffy feeling
I also tried BetterHelp TWICE and had a poor experience both times. The "therapists" just ask generic questions and didn't seem interested in me at all. Better off just asking ChatGPT for advice.
@@Jaceyy selling peoples private health data (literally ordered to stop by the FTC), not paying their workers enough, and overall not having much clinical data to back up their services
As a native Spanish speaker, I hadn't given too much thought to the correlation that my language makes between beauty and goodness until you mentioned it. We often say things like "ella es muy linda" meaning "she's very pretty" to say someone is kind, caring and warm-hearted, and it's so often used that even I often can't tell if they mean pretty in the sense of beauty or in the sense of character. Another interesting thing is that there's a counterpart (or at least in Colombian Spanish) for men, where we say a man is "guapo" which means handsome, when we want to mean that he's brave and strong.
since i don't know spanish, i am curious. if someone wants to say "he is brave" or "she is kind," but not necessarily in physical way, how do you phrase them?
@@yoshiinthisworld depends on the generation, since I'm gen z I usually prefer saying "fuerte" or "valiente", because "guapo" is more of a thing for older generations. But my friends and I do say "linda" or even "lindo" if it's a man quite a lot. We could instead say "bonita persona" but then again, "bonita" means pretty too, and the more straightforward ways like "amable", "cálido", "empático", simply don't convey the same feeling as saying someone is pretty as a person, it just feels more meaningful to say it that way.
That’s interesting as someone called my Linda in Spanish and I said I understand and said it meant pretty . She then corrected me and said it also means internal beauty too. I now understand 😅
Elizabeth, that was PHENOMENAL! The amount of research, the sublime historical , philosophical, sociological analysis, the structuring, the delivery, the art, the animations, the music!!?? Honestly that was a masterpiece and felt like a high-end documentary. I would honestly pay for this kind of content. Also, as a fat woman myself, that was incredibly empowering and I loved loved loved the last part about fat-shaming and discrimination. Thank you so much for making this gem of a video and sharing it❤️
When she says 'hundreds of research', she actually mean it! This is more than just a YT video, it's like reading a book or something.. I am so grateful that you put this out
Hi Elizabeth! I am just a teenager, so I am too young to pay you for this incredible piece of art, but I just want to express my gratitude to you, and the respect I have for you.. You are honestly such a big sister inspiration, and I can only wish to become as articulate and brilliant as you! Have been watching your videos since long, but I have to say.. This one is soooo underrated 💛 Lots of love! And good luck to you :)
I so wish you hadn't promoted better help prior to engaging with such an important subject. It's like analysing the growth in the incidence of diabetes and starting by promoting Mcdonald's!
@@MelanieRooster there's no doubt that some people meet therapists that are able to help them but better help as a company engaged in some extremely fraudulent practices and it goes deeper than you think. If you start really looking into it paying attention to what is objectively true, the things that they've actually done, and the things they've done to cover those things up, it's pretty shocking that anyone would be willing to stand by their name. Seriously. Look into them more deeply. It's unbelievable
Thanks for speaking up about this especially the obecity part. My Mum has been ridiculed and treated horribly for her obesity for all my life. She gained a lot of weight during her pregnancy with me and later my brother and was unable to loose it struggling with low self-esteem and post-natal depression. Later she tried everything, including every diet under the sun (at times she was more physically active than me) but still could not loose a lot of weight. The way doctors treated and belittled her have left her with a strong aversion to them to the point where she is now refusing to get diagnosed for what is likely advanced diabetes (to the point she feels neuropathic pain). She has also lost a lot of weight now (likely due to diabetes) but yeah. The scars remain and keep creating new wounds.
I totally understand the aversion, but I'm diabetic and you listed her having neuropathic pain and having lost weight possibly due to diabetes..... Please get her to a doctor fast, because these are life-threatening signs. If neuropathy progresses enough, what it damages cannot be fixed. Losing weight can be tied to hyperglycaemia which can cause organ damage in a very short amount of time. I don't mean to scare you but these symptoms are serious
There's a lovely channel on animal based food from Lillie Kane. She has a vid on 3 carnivore plates depending on goals. Dr Boz talks about using better to cure cravings. These two resources might be helpful for her to eat and enjoy w no worries and still achieve her health goals
@@Hepa0tus I am aware of that and I told her that but my Mum is the most stubborn. Like she would never speak to me again if I forced her. Also living in a different country this is hard. Luckily, she ended up going herself and she now gets treatment.
I LOVE that you pointed out how overweight people are shamed as being lazy but pointing out that we are overworked and tired. So by the end of the day, do we want to do a full workout routine? No! We want to do activities that give us the most pleasure and little energy spending as we can in the small free time we have.
we can't call this a video it's a mind-class film/documentary which is so vast and astonishing. This shouldn't be watched for free on YT it should be charged to watch, it's mind-blowing, work done is just on another level. P.S Elizabeth love the way you have arranged books in the background, wish I could read each of them.
Hi, I just wanted to add that the very fact that this kind of content is made available to people who don't want to/can't pay for is a blessing and illustration of Elisabeth's intentions and generosity. That being said, I absolutely agree that the amount of work and talent put into this video deserve full support and retribution, which I am happy to contribute to as pointed at by Computra.
I was so happy to find you and see this video and then to hear you’re supporting better help… please if you’re reading this DO NOT use better help! There are HUNDREDS of videos that are shorter than this one that will explain why. I’m so thoroughly disappointed.
I'm impressed at the amount of research and detail you wnet into. I do want to point out though, as very nearly all fashion historians agree, tight-lacing corsets was very rare and almost exclusively done by high class socialites, comparable to todays celebraties (see Kim Kardashians Met Gala shenanigans). The pictures of women with tiny waists compared to their hips and bust are mostly achieved via padding, so the desired ratios were created. Its a clever illusion, for which there is a ton of evidence in women's magazines, fashion plates and even extant garments perserved in museum and/or personal collections. There is no physical evidence that women's bodies were permanently altered or by wearing corsets, i.e. organs shifting or changes in bone structure. I don't know about muscle atrophy though. Also, a lot of the clothes worn during time where corsets and stays were commonly worn were heavy as hell, so the corset was also needed to spread out the weight of the garments around and protect the body from waistbands painfully digging into soft tissues.
The bit on corsets and dresses being caught on fire; especially women being blown away by their dresses, has been debunked. Abby Cox does a lot of this discussion on historical clothing. She has a whole video just on dresses catching fire. Many other channels of historical fashion have brought up corsets; tightlacing was not the norm. Corsets are really comfortable to wear, they were the bra of the time. Unlike today, women could get the fashionable shape through padding, to get the illusion of a tiny waist. A lot of men were disgruntled, having to live their lives around big dresses.
The comfort of corsets has been debunked by the her own costuming community: a corset is only comfortable if it's actually custom made/properly fitted-this is not a luxury most women could afford- and even then there are numerous activities that are made worse with the restriction the garmet creates. The discomfort was just something that the women put up with because of social restrictions (in the same way that contemporary women may put up with uncomfortable bras when leaving the house). Abby herself has also noted that part of why corsets work for her is due to her long torso - she has more space that can easily be squished down before hitting the ribs.
There’s just no logical way that most women were comfortable in their corsets. Especially poorer women who would not have been in custom garments. If they were so “comfortable” we’d still be wearing them now.
@@katie8325 As someone who wears corsets/stays more often than a bra, I have to disagree. They're actually very comfortable if custom made (I made mine myself) and a huge relief for back pain as well as improving my posture. I can still go about my day without restrictions, though I do admit that it's less comfortable to sit in one for a long period of time. Back then, many lower class women would also make corsets themselves. They might not be as pretty as bought ones, but still functional - and since you don't wear them against your skin, they don't get dirty or easily damaged, so you needed only one or two. The main reason we no longer wear them is mostly due to fashion: nowadays it is "in" to show a lot of skin and highlight the figure. To comfortably wear a corset or stays you need to wear at least one layer underneath it - and in case of a corset you also need something on top, since it is basically an undergarment, which means at least three layers of clothing. Not many people are still willing to do that ;)
Love this video but seriously consider not partnering with better help they have caused so much pain in people's mental health and it's really concerning that people will still sponsor them, directly causing more bad mental help experiences
Thank you- I gained weight due to a lot of health issues, I have problems with it and I struggle to be positive, not because I personally have a problem with heavy people, but because I know thin people have a problem with me. I noticed it when I lost weight the first time, I noticed it gaining it back. Everyone I know acts like I’m paranoid but people who didn’t know me when I was thin are more likely to treat me like an idiot, doctors diagnose me with fat moron instead of checking me, and people are just generally less friendly with me. Being a woman gets you assumed incompetent half the time but being a fat woman means everyone is always surprised when you can do anything ever for any reason. So yeah, again, thank you for affirming exactly why I hate being stuck like this and agreeing it’s not in my head, I’m so sick of being told to think positively. The thin = smart association is real and a lot of my motivation to lose weight again as a knowledge worker is so people will stop treating me like an idiot. When I say losing weight is a key part of recovering my income after the health trainwreck people think I’m crazy but I know I’m right.
For context, betterhelp steals MASSIVE amounts of customer information, and since their therapists are all online (therefore no up and personal screens beforehand), a considerable portion of customers find the therapy redundant, straight up bad or even damaging.
I think it’s up to the viewer to decide if they want to take part in these services. Many people have found betterhelp, including myself, as extremely helpful. Not everyone has had negative or even unsatisfactory experiences. Oranges are a great fruit, widely enjoyed by millions, and yet, there are still those who hate oranges.
@@admill77 my problem with it isn’t the concept itself. my problem is that it has been found to steal tons of data from its users and it also doesn’t require the therapists on there to be actual professionals. it also makes it very difficult to cancel a subscription, im sure many people have had good experiences with it. but i feel it’s not a good idea to promote better help due to its sketchy and unprofessional practices.
Iv seen a few comments like this and had no idea about why...I'm just sick of seeing the ads 😂 I keep blocking them they as so freaking annoying and pop up every 2 seconds
I’m unsure why for someone who seems to do a lot of research on topics, you wouldn’t do research on better help and the multiple negative affects they have had on so many people. It’s very disheartening that creators are still recommending them in all honesty. For anyone who sees this video and is considering signing up for better help PLEASE do your research before deciding to do so.
Absolutely loved this segment and have been a fan for years. I love all your work! I think beauty has levels. Surface beauty(external) is bought and sold, inner beauty is courage, experience and strength. Shiny lustful objects feed the ego, causing temporary happiness and pleasure. I'm still defining beauty in media, and your research has opened my mind to new possibilities. Maybe beauty is esteem and encouragement for the next generation. For them I write, research, develop sense of self and be of service the best I can, and that means mentally, physically and emotionally balanced, strive everyday for a greater cause. Thank you for this informative message and I could write forever. Until next time. Your biggest fan ❤
Usually as an recently diagnosed ADHD girly i cant keep watching a video made by others all in one sitting, even movies sometimes lose my attention. I was sitting at the edge of my chair completely focused on every word you say. You truly are an informational and inspirational gem! So much work into these videos, yet beautifully edited and presented. Lovely engaging speech and honestly you inspire me to learn more and research things myself. Falling in love with the human experience while also ciritcally analysing it.
i know. like ik the money their offered is tempting and u run a business at the end of the day. but wouldnt u feel incredibly off making such a well made awareness video, then directly being sponsored by a company that knowingly takes advantage of ppl who wouldnt know better? spins my moral compass everytime i see it
I don’t think she knows. I mean I only found out because of a video essay on TH-cam but I doubt she spends the amount of time I do watching those types of videos. I definitely agree with you though and I’m not trying to say you aren’t allowed to be disappointed in her but I’m pretty sure she genuinely doesn’t know. 😅
@@sularosewood9649I would hope she doesn't recommend a service to people that she didn't actually research beforehand. There's a ton of videos about betterhelp on youtube
This video was recommended to me by TH-cam and I’m so glad I clicked. Truly a masterpiece, the fact she uses real articles, cites the sources and it’s not just saying things. I love it!
The second cosmetic plastic surgery was invented, beauty became transactional. That used to only be available to the rich, but now the public is aware and has begun using it to a degree we can see its effects in mass. It's really no different from using your money in a video game to expand a perk. There are so many scientific reasons why beauty is advantageous, that with its popularity and affordability, buying it is just intelligent.
I’ve been reading a lot lately about the microbiome and it’s link to EVERYTHING health related, including mental health. The use of Glyphosate (Round up) is higher than ever, and with everything I’m learning I still feel anxiety when I look at the price of an organic vegetable/meat grown in a natural way. I think one factor in the difference between weight of the rich and poor is how drenched in pesticides our food is.
Processed food are higher in chemicals, carbs and sugars, and lower in nutrition, yet far cheaper than whole organic foods. In rural South Africa, very poor women are far more likely to be obese than women in the urban centers because of easy access to cheap processed foods (and corn and rice), and the lack of availability of fresh organic foods. They walk many, many miles daily to gather water, are certainly not "lazy", but as still very obese. It really is a class issue.
Holy sht... I just learned stuff and I've been obsessively consuming body positivity, fat activism, fitness, wellness, and workout content since 2020. Cheers. I've got the BED and struggle hard to be in shape.
"'Beauty' has never just been about beauty." As the old saying goes, pain is beauty. In this Western world, derived from Abrahamic belief systems, suffering is the empty of goodness. A quote that comes to mind is from the Revelations of Divine Love by Julian of Norwich, in which she states: "Every trial, every loss, is an opportunity for you to meet suffering with love and make of it an offering, a prayer." To be beautiful is to be of service to others; not really as the object of desire, but as the giving act of such an experience. In essence, you love me for how I make you feel not for who I am. A flawed human being.
QUEEN NEVERRR DISAPPOINTS , LOVED THE EDITING, THE CONCEPT OF THE VIDEO . THE AMOUNT OF EFFORTS AND ARDROUS WORK HAVE BEEN PUT IINTO THIS IS COMMENDABLE . LOVE YOUU ELIZABETH. YOU LITERALLY MY FAVORITE CREATOR. ❤❤❤❤❤❤😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊
I think the information you have about victorian corsets is incorrect. Tight lacing was an anomaly of high fashion (or faked by editing photos). If you watch someone wear a recreation victorian corset, it does more to give the illusion of a small waist by padding out the bust and hips than by narrowing the waist. Working women wore corsets all day because they keep things from wobbling around... this myth that women spent their lives fainting from corset wearing would be the same as people in 100 years saying that wearing tight bras stops the lungs from fully expanding and creates a groove in the chest, it could happen, but you're wearing it very wrong if it does
I just want to point out that she didn’t say anything about corsets not being good or healthy. She only said that tight lacing was unhealthy (and it was, so she didn’t say anything incorrect there). It probably wasn’t common for common folk, but there were those people who did it, and even then it was highly controversial. I think we could talk about Brazilian butt lifts in a similar way. It’s not very common and it’s a fairly controversial thing, but it definitely IS happening and definitely IS a dangerous procedure and if people talk about it years from now they would not be wrong for stating that it did happen and was a dangerous procedure. So I don’t think she got the information incorrect. She never claimed all Victorian corsets were like this or even insinuated that all corsets are bad/unhealthy. She simply pointed out the dangers of tight lacing
This should be shown in schools from middle school to university, this was brilliant, thoughtful, inspiring, eye-opening, literally amazing. I will be watching this again and sharing it to others because this was just a piece of art. Thank you so much for the time and effort you put into making this it is so important that more people hear this message.
This is one of the many reasons I’m enjoying the rise of ‘4B’ type movements, the worldwide falling of birth rates, marriage and heterosexual pairing, the decentering of men entirely- women and femmes rejecting the male culture and its rubbish worldwide. It is freeing all non-mainstream male individuals from mainstream male projections and culture. Men as a group aren’t liking this, but the dominator patriarchal culture has brought its own problems on its own head.
Dude I have had body image issues since I was 13, and even though my husband and my sisters tell me how beautiful I am, I am not the beauty standard. The thing is, I'm about 15lbs overweight and it takes me forever to lose one pound,.I've lost about 25 pounds and I'm at a plateu that's lasted me three years. I lose weight at half a pound a month because of my height but because of things like my menstrual cycle, sometimes that can ruin my progress. I have been daily for two or three years making sure I try to get at least 10,000 steps a day at the bare minimum. My weight is a struggle every day, I get very upset when I gain one pound because I know how long it will take to lose it. Edit: I know that there is more that I could do, but honestly what I'm doing at the moment is very tiring and time consuming, and the idea that all the effort that I'm putting in isn't enough, is just discouraging. The thing is I've been heavier. I was a chubby kid in school, and i gained a lot of grief weight, and I've lost most of it. I know for a fact that when you're bigger you're treated differently and unfairly. It is more than just beauty for me, it's respect and status. I also had my extremely morbidly obese best friend friend die at the early age of 36, so I also know the dangers. I n conclusion, there are valid reasons to stay and shape and eat healthy, but also some of those reasons are unhealthy as well that have been driving me insane for over 15 years.
I love this video and how much work you've put in it. I do have a comment tho about the use of corsetry and tight lacing. This was not the case at all, tight lacing was a practice only seen and used by the lite and high class as they were the only ones that could afford it and were able to due to the lack of manual work they were doing( for reasons of they had enough money to have things done for them by other people) tight lacing was a practice that regular people of middle and especially lower class would not practice if not rarely not at all. Corsets were and still are a brilliant garment that was used to support the back, bust and posture of the wearer and take all the weight of the skirts and petticoats and undergarments from the hips. The fact that it could be tight laced and able to give that look was an extra added bonus. Plus one of the most common practices of corsetry was 💫padding💫. The power of illusion was the MAIN and most common practice in relation with corsetry. That way the wearer is able to have one corset (now we have to mention that clothing was very expensive and people would have only what they need, fitted perfectly to their ever-changing bodies so they found ways to accommodate all that with very versatile garment that can take a lot of manipulation without loosing its properties) throughout trends that changes rapidly, weight gain and loss, pregnancy and Most Importanly manual labour. Lastly we have to take into account that being tight lacing was not something that had the health effects we are lead to belive by media of the time (a time where medicine was OUT OF WHACK lets say for lack of a better word). The human body and especially the waist is a fantastic part that can be squeezed and manipulated realively easily without having an effect on health due to the fat reserves and malleability. All this is not to say that there were no cases of tight lacing causing issues or people going into great lengths to achieve it but we have to remember PEOPLE WERE NOT STUPID. They knew what they were doing and common folk could not afford to follow the trends of the rich that is mostly exactly what would be advertised to media and what would be the next extreme magazine advert that would get people to talk about it. Corsets were not evil and we should start looking into things a bit better. Thank you for this amazing video i enjoyed it loads❤❤
Truly a remarkable piece! Within just 10 minutes, I was moved to tears by the sheer brilliance of your video. In a world saturated with information, who produce videos of such enduring value akin to timeless books, are truly extraordinary....
Thank you for your time and effort in creating this educational and visually appealing content. I appreciate your dedication to providing valuable information in an engaging manner 😊📚
Thanks for your fantastic grit in pulling off all the research, your authentic efforts to use your creativity in fascinating storytelling and organic way of expressing your selflessness to enlighten others about the importance of the knowledge you accumulated. 😊
This has been one of the best video essay experiences I have had. Elizabeth, your meticulous research and creative ways of linking everything together was a joy to watch. The fast but coherent pace kept me hooked the whole time while allowing me space to ponder on your words. This is possibly the best deep dive into body image I have come across and I am excited to learn more from you. Good luck on your studies, you’re made for this!!
The first segment of this was super interesting and great but I feel like the segment on obesity should have been a separate video - it seemed like you were making a different point and you took a fairly one dimensional view. It seems like you're stating that obesity is predominantly tied to poverty but you neglected to discuss other factors that are also involved. Binge eating disorder is very much a thing, the availability of food is definitely a factor in increased obesity rates in developed countries, and there was no discussion either into the science behind how obesity in maintained - metabolic changes, leptin resistance etc. Throughout the video there was also no discussion of the prevalence of different eating disorders throughout history and how this tied into what was going on in society at the time which would have been super interesting
Yeah a key issue with obesity is related to the fact that 1) the market is filled with high calorie foods that have been designed to be as palatable and unsatisfying as possible.
it feels like im watching an art project video that is yet so informative and philosophically thought through rather than a yt video. I really appreciate your work Elizabeth (sorry for mistakes, eng is my 4. language)
“Extreme sport in emotional regulation.” What a phrase! What an incredible work! Enjoyed every moment of it. What I find amazing is that some people didn’t seem to absorb more than what is advertised in this video.
I was the 5000th like to this video. But quite frankly, it should be so much higher. This is so well done, well researched, informative and just overall brilliant. Thank you
The research and work you’ve done here is incredible, feels like this should have taken 10 people at least. You really should be proud. I also study medicine and I actually believe we all should know this info, it would really change the way these patients get treated, it’s really surprising that most of us ignore this information and have silenced this part of side of history
This was an amazing deep dive into a subject I didn’t know much about, and your detailed research combined with your personal experience made it all the more persuasive! Thanks for sharing with the world and for posting on Nebula. I originally found you there and it was good to see you posting again :)
Thank you so much for this video. I have 3 nieces.. they've all been dealing with beauty standards for years now and 2 of them are only 14. I'm going to show them this video after having a conversation with them about all of this. Thank you again.
I was so moved by the end where you highlighted the reality of discrepancy in health outcomes and the factor of luck. I am someone that has suffered from mental illness my entire life and have always gotten in some way directly or indirectly blamed for it. It has caused me so much unecessary stress blaming myself for not being better. I do exercise, I do eat healthily, I do motivate myself and continue to push myself to be better and I do love myself. These are all the same things overweight people are accused of neglecting, while many people do not consider the fact that most people struggle in life not because of self-neglect, but because of factors outside of their control. I am trying to come to terms with the fact that my suffering hasn't necessarily been ''for a reason,'' ''to make me stronger,'' or even worse, my own doing; but because I've simply been unlucky. And while that is a tough pill to swallow, because it means that there won't be a point where I finally ''learn my lesson'' and be rewarded with a happy life It also means that I could finally let go of the idea that I somehow deserve my fate and simply accept that I don't have control over whether things work out for me or not. I can only live as I am capable. And I am not a spiritually corrupt person for suffering and others are not better and more deserving because they are suffering less. I wish we could all gain some understanding for the variance in the subjective experience of a human being and stop the blame condemnation of people who are already struggling enough without it.
Im not beautiful but im pretty cynical, nonetheless its inspiring knowing your Adhd, or non linear thinking, has not stopped you from med school, your channel. I have to say, your thumbnails are my favorite on youtube, theyre like movie posters, thanks for not making the shocked / surprised face.
I watched this when it was first put out and I'm back to say this is such an incredible piece, Elizabeth! Someone already said it but I am in awe of your research and analysis, and on top of that, the production!! You have been my favorite creator ever since!! ♡
Quite interesting. I thought most of our beauty ideals were driven by marketing, but never considered the abundance or lack of resources do too. BTW, I’m impressed with all the references. This video must have taken a lot of work.
Hey Elizabeth! I really enjoy your content, I have followed you for a while and deeply admire your commitment to making high-quality videos, from research to the editing of it. For this reason, I'm really disappointed that you chose to be sponsored by BetterHelp, I understand if you haven't heard about the poor service they offer but, I hope you don't consider them for future collaborations.
Thank you so much for creating and sharing this! It is beyond me how you managed to find the time for this extensive research and then sum it all up in under two hours and this increadibly relatable und understandable way. You have my utmost respect for that. I feel incredibly seen and understood and this has helped me so much on an academic AND emotional level. I have shared it with all my friends. We all need to hear this.
This is so creatively done! Very esthetic for a video on ugliness! I'm becoming more and more attracted to realness and over the impossible beauty standards of today. I think every time period has unrealistic beauty standards we would be wise to reject or at least not allow it to rule over us.
Thank you for making this! Growing up without a grandma, my mom always told me, she got colon cancer because she didn’t eat vegetables. So before I have the freedom to choose what to eat, I always see food as the medicine I get to choose. And maybe the idea of food are not are supposed to be all delicious as long as they are the most accessible good fuel for our body will help if we learnt that before we developed a preference for flavour. Since you just showed us how much bs in the history of social guidance of weight and beauty standards, I feel the light hearted way for me of how fit I should be is if I stand a chance if I’m chased by a wild animal. So happy to see your channel growing from 30k follower to almost a million! Please keep doing what you believe, so jealous of the kids get to grow up watching these contents and form a more informed opinion about themselves and society.❤❤❤
The depth of research is impressive but the title would benefit from specifying western/caucasian female beauty. Great work and would be super interested to know the bibliography of the literature consulted.
every time I go to my doctor for my diabetes I have a major set back with my ed. most of the time it's in remission but I have to go tomorrow and last week was horrible, just because of the stress. they say everytime losing weight is not the goal but I have been told so many times that I'm to fat and when people hear I have diabetes they always ask type 1 or 2, just to decide if they should blame me for it. I have type 2 and it's not because I'm overeating, I am not fat because I am overeating. I have multiple health issues that cause this. the fact I have to stand on the scale tomorrow (why if losing weight isn't important) is causing me so much stress. sorry for the rant 😅 this article is so understanding, it helped
Completely blown away by your video! An masterpiece.... The research, philosophy and history, your video editing skills, scripting, storytelling, its a chiefs kiss. As a teenager, when I first got to know about Aphrodite and saw its statue... I thought to myself "being zero figure was not always a beauty standard- " and then wondered how did the shift take place... Guess I've got my answers today, a 19 year old 😄 I want to convey my utmost appreciation and respect for your incredible work. You're such an inspiration!
As a soon to be doctor myself, I am disappointed that you are promoting better help. They have been known to leak and share patient data, and there are harrowing accounts of users becoming retraumatised by their untrained counsellors. I'm sure promoting a counselling service in a video with a heavy topic came from good intentions, but they really are a net harm
Thank you sooo much for this video. I can’t imagine how much work went into it but it definitely paid off. Please make more lengthy documentary style videos like this 🥺
Heya, just wanted to put a note here regarding my segment and thinking on Victorian corsetting, as I’m seeing lots and lots of comments on it! As someone who absolutely loves Karolina Żebrowska’s channel, most of my prior personal information on historical clothing came from her and similar videos - I also thought that corsetting was never as exaggerated or sensationalised as it’s been made out to be in media. I’m not a historian, and I may be completely mistaken, in which case I genuinely genuinely apologise, my intent was never to mislead anyone and up until this research I very much shared sentiments with everyone in the comments who’s pointed out that tightlacing was never as widespread or damaging as previously believed.
However, all the information I used to research for this video (I’ll link them again at the end of this comment) showed what I described in this video: that unlike prior corsets, which had been looser, more like supportive clothing and bras, during the Victorian Era the style of corsets changed such that they became much more restrictive and tight, enabled by metal eyelets and the new tightlacing. Larger skirts and padding were added slowly by women in attempts to achieve the look without having to restrict themselves as much - so I felt I had to use this information.
What made me lean towards believing this more in the end, was the fact that flap surgery (which repairs burns) was actually developed and later used widely during WWI due to the huge number of women sufferring burns which were made more severe and common due to their massive and uncomfortable clothing. I read the book written by Dr Mutter himself in 1843 (linked below) where you can see in his own surgical notes that the female patients he operated on were victims of burns to their clothing, which alligned with the information in other sources too.
I realise I sound awfully defensive, though my aim is to just describe my thinking for this segment, because quite a bit of thought went into it on my part! But I’m very very open to having my mind changed back, and welcome both challenges to the sources I’m linking here and extra sources for me to read. Please note TH-cam automatically censors any links posted, so any comment with a direct link cannot show up, but if you take the time to add your thoughts, please give a title of an article/paper and the name of the site it’s from, hopefully we can all that way find it!
Lastly, I really want to apologise for any annoyance this framing has caused, I really was terrified of making this video, one of the main reasons being my delving into themes and topics in which I am definitely not an expert: like history. It saddens me to see I’ve actually frustrated quite a few of you and made you feel I’ve wasted your time and completely discredited all information once I mentioned the corsets and that era, so I do apologise for that! I definitely could’ve done more work on that segment, and probably shouldn’t have allowed myself to have had my mind changed as quickly as I did, but it wasn’t from little material! There were a few books and papers that corroborated this, even though my beliefs clearly may suggest a complete lack of reading in this direction! Sorry again, and lots of love xx
Sources on corsets:
Davies, Mel. “Corsets and Conception: Fashion and Demographic Trends in the Nineteenth Century.” Comparative Studies in Society and History, vol. 24, no. 4, 1982, pp. 611-41. JSTOR
Cases of deformity from burns, successfully treated by plastic operations by Mütter, Thomas D. (Thomas Dent), 1811-1859
Consumptive chic : a history of beauty, fashion, and disease / Carolyn A. Day. 2017
Gernsheim, A. (1981). Victorian and Edwardian fashion : a photographic survey. New York: Dover.
Maxwell, A. (2014). Patriots Against Fashion. Springer.
PhillyVoice. (2023). In the 1840s, Dr. Mütter used a revolutionary ‘flap’ surgery to help burn patients.
James Laver - The Concise History of Costume and Fashion (1969, Harry N. Abrams)
Why haven’t you addressed concerns about the sponsor better help? There’s many comments that you ignored but it’s not a good company to promote. Especially as a future doctor…
I think corsets became somewhat sugarcoated here on youtube too, from torture device now there is a trend of denying everything suggesting they were not that great sometimes, afterall they were left in the past and didnt become mainstream back
@@alexyssaubrie1606 based on my research (please correct me if I’m wrong) there was a class action lawsuit (for actions I definitely don’t condone) which was settled years ago. Since the issue was resolved, I don’t believe there’s been other legal concerns with the company? I’ve used them myself and found the therapist amazing and the platform super helpful to book and organise sessions with. I love and use online therapy, the company gifts tons of months of free therapy to communities in need. To me promoting it is promoting accessible therapy, which is one of the sponsorships I’d find easiest to say yes to, genuinely feel passionate talking about and feel would actually improve someone’s life. And that’s exactly what I get from using it myself. I’m not placing my moral responsibility fully onto others, but that some of my favourite creators (Johnny Harris - a deepdive researcher; Psychology is Seattle - who is also a therapist themselves for 20+ years) promote the company and especially the latter being one of the creators I respect the most for their integrity, honesty and knowledge, is what has so far made me feel that it’s ok to use and promote them. They provide a much needed service, and I’ve actually tried them and had a great experience.
@@elizabethfilips I support you 100 %, Liz. Cancel culture has gotten way out of hand
elizabethfilips I believe you’re talking about the 2018 lawsuit. Additionally, in 2023 the FTC ordered them to pay huge sums of money back to customers because Betterhelp had been sharing confidential data with Facebook so that Facebook could use it for marketing purposes. Personally I don’t feel that’s a scandal a company comes back from, especially in only a year,, but it’s up to individuals to decide.
Personally, I looked into it using Betterhelp. I found they cost more than twice as much as in person therapy, but was willing to accept that as the price of convenience. Then I filled out their form and was told that they can’t treat cases with my background, which isn’t even that extreme. So I guess it’s just very expensive therapy for people with very minor problems. But I bet they still kept my data. And sold it to Facebook.
“The female body has never been just a body.” That gave me chills
Elizabeth! This is a masterclass in research, philosophy, art, history, video editing, scripting, storytelling & perspective. I am absolutely floored and inspired by this video. This should be a piece broadcast by the BBC.
Sooo flattered, thank you Sonia!!!!
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And yet, Better Help is still a sponsor on this😢
It takes 2 minutes to look up how bad and unerhical that company is
PLEASE do not pay for Better Help. Look into their controversy first, coming from someone who used to use Better Help and had a commonly terrible experience
Yeah, the experience is gonna vary wildly due to the lack of accountability. They don't have employees. They have contracted workers.
i wish more creators would listen to the therapists who have outed betterhelp for being terrible, unethical, illegal, etc. BEFORE they take sponsorships. however, they have to get food on the table somehow :///////// BIGG iffy feeling
thank you. I love her channel but it's so frustrating seeing people promote that company.
I also tried BetterHelp TWICE and had a poor experience both times. The "therapists" just ask generic questions and didn't seem interested in me at all. Better off just asking ChatGPT for advice.
I haven’t heard anything good from anyone but her
This is a great video but please do more research when accepting sponsors because better help isn’t the right move
Ik especially for a soon to be doctor
Why is that
@@Jaceyy selling peoples private health data (literally ordered to stop by the FTC), not paying their workers enough, and overall not having much clinical data to back up their services
I’m so happy that people like you will be in the healthcare system soon. This was so refreshing.
“Soon to be doctor” whooo you go girl!
The amount of work that has been put in here. 😲
Man! you're 11 minutes into a 2 hours video XD, but I agree it looks very well produced from the few minutes I saw too.
As a native Spanish speaker, I hadn't given too much thought to the correlation that my language makes between beauty and goodness until you mentioned it. We often say things like "ella es muy linda" meaning "she's very pretty" to say someone is kind, caring and warm-hearted, and it's so often used that even I often can't tell if they mean pretty in the sense of beauty or in the sense of character. Another interesting thing is that there's a counterpart (or at least in Colombian Spanish) for men, where we say a man is "guapo" which means handsome, when we want to mean that he's brave and strong.
since i don't know spanish, i am curious.
if someone wants to say "he is brave" or "she is kind," but not necessarily in physical way, how do you phrase them?
@@yoshiinthisworld depends on the generation, since I'm gen z I usually prefer saying "fuerte" or "valiente", because "guapo" is more of a thing for older generations. But my friends and I do say "linda" or even "lindo" if it's a man quite a lot. We could instead say "bonita persona" but then again, "bonita" means pretty too, and the more straightforward ways like "amable", "cálido", "empático", simply don't convey the same feeling as saying someone is pretty as a person, it just feels more meaningful to say it that way.
That’s interesting as someone called my Linda in Spanish and I said I understand and said it meant pretty . She then corrected me and said it also means internal beauty too. I now understand 😅
so interesting!!
Elizabeth, that was PHENOMENAL! The amount of research, the sublime historical , philosophical, sociological analysis, the structuring, the delivery, the art, the animations, the music!!?? Honestly that was a masterpiece and felt like a high-end documentary. I would honestly pay for this kind of content. Also, as a fat woman myself, that was incredibly empowering and I loved loved loved the last part about fat-shaming and discrimination. Thank you so much for making this gem of a video and sharing it❤️
Oh my this is exactly why I made this video! This comment made it worth it, thank you ❤️
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When she says 'hundreds of research', she actually mean it!
This is more than just a YT video, it's like reading a book or something.. I am so grateful that you put this out
Hi Elizabeth! I am just a teenager, so I am too young to pay you for this incredible piece of art, but I just want to express my gratitude to you, and the respect I have for you.. You are honestly such a big sister inspiration, and I can only wish to become as articulate and brilliant as you!
Have been watching your videos since long, but I have to say.. This one is soooo underrated 💛
Lots of love! And good luck to you :)
I so wish you hadn't promoted better help prior to engaging with such an important subject. It's like analysing the growth in the incidence of diabetes and starting by promoting Mcdonald's!
pretty sure they pay youtubers up to $200 per sign up. some people just blindly promote things because money.
@@xsatisxI mean… rent needs to be paid. I’ve heard that it’s not any better, nor much of help, but if it pays…
Honestly better help really isn't that bad. It has helped many people including me.
@@MelanieRooster there's no doubt that some people meet therapists that are able to help them but better help as a company engaged in some extremely fraudulent practices and it goes deeper than you think. If you start really looking into it paying attention to what is objectively true, the things that they've actually done, and the things they've done to cover those things up, it's pretty shocking that anyone would be willing to stand by their name. Seriously. Look into them more deeply. It's unbelievable
Thanks for speaking up about this especially the obecity part. My Mum has been ridiculed and treated horribly for her obesity for all my life. She gained a lot of weight during her pregnancy with me and later my brother and was unable to loose it struggling with low self-esteem and post-natal depression. Later she tried everything, including every diet under the sun (at times she was more physically active than me) but still could not loose a lot of weight. The way doctors treated and belittled her have left her with a strong aversion to them to the point where she is now refusing to get diagnosed for what is likely advanced diabetes (to the point she feels neuropathic pain). She has also lost a lot of weight now (likely due to diabetes) but yeah. The scars remain and keep creating new wounds.
I totally understand the aversion, but I'm diabetic and you listed her having neuropathic pain and having lost weight possibly due to diabetes..... Please get her to a doctor fast, because these are life-threatening signs. If neuropathy progresses enough, what it damages cannot be fixed. Losing weight can be tied to hyperglycaemia which can cause organ damage in a very short amount of time. I don't mean to scare you but these symptoms are serious
There's a lovely channel on animal based food from Lillie Kane. She has a vid on 3 carnivore plates depending on goals. Dr Boz talks about using better to cure cravings. These two resources might be helpful for her to eat and enjoy w no worries and still achieve her health goals
@@Hepa0tus I am aware of that and I told her that but my Mum is the most stubborn. Like she would never speak to me again if I forced her. Also living in a different country this is hard. Luckily, she ended up going herself and she now gets treatment.
I LOVE that you pointed out how overweight people are shamed as being lazy but pointing out that we are overworked and tired. So by the end of the day, do we want to do a full workout routine? No! We want to do activities that give us the most pleasure and little energy spending as we can in the small free time we have.
girl not the Better Help sponsorship oof
we can't call this a video it's a mind-class film/documentary which is so vast and astonishing. This shouldn't be watched for free on YT it should be charged to watch, it's mind-blowing, work done is just on another level. P.S Elizabeth love the way you have arranged books in the background, wish I could read each of them.
You can send her a thanks with whatever amount you wish to send her. It's right on the list of options under the video.
Hi, I just wanted to add that the very fact that this kind of content is made available to people who don't want to/can't pay for is a blessing and illustration of Elisabeth's intentions and generosity.
That being said, I absolutely agree that the amount of work and talent put into this video deserve full support and retribution, which I am happy to contribute to as pointed at by Computra.
@@kyiou.....we know
That we get to see this amount of detailed research & quality for free is such a privilege. Thank you for this truly insightful work, Elizabeth.
I was so happy to find you and see this video and then to hear you’re supporting better help… please if you’re reading this DO NOT use better help! There are HUNDREDS of videos that are shorter than this one that will explain why. I’m so thoroughly disappointed.
I'm impressed at the amount of research and detail you wnet into. I do want to point out though, as very nearly all fashion historians agree, tight-lacing corsets was very rare and almost exclusively done by high class socialites, comparable to todays celebraties (see Kim Kardashians Met Gala shenanigans). The pictures of women with tiny waists compared to their hips and bust are mostly achieved via padding, so the desired ratios were created. Its a clever illusion, for which there is a ton of evidence in women's magazines, fashion plates and even extant garments perserved in museum and/or personal collections. There is no physical evidence that women's bodies were permanently altered or by wearing corsets, i.e. organs shifting or changes in bone structure. I don't know about muscle atrophy though. Also, a lot of the clothes worn during time where corsets and stays were commonly worn were heavy as hell, so the corset was also needed to spread out the weight of the garments around and protect the body from waistbands painfully digging into soft tissues.
The bit on corsets and dresses being caught on fire; especially women being blown away by their dresses, has been debunked. Abby Cox does a lot of this discussion on historical clothing. She has a whole video just on dresses catching fire. Many other channels of historical fashion have brought up corsets; tightlacing was not the norm. Corsets are really comfortable to wear, they were the bra of the time. Unlike today, women could get the fashionable shape through padding, to get the illusion of a tiny waist. A lot of men were disgruntled, having to live their lives around big dresses.
Yes. Plus corsets were custom made, so perhaps even more comfortable than our cheap bras today.
@@paulinemoira8442 There are still stores that make custom bras. I'm scared to think of the price though...
The comfort of corsets has been debunked by the her own costuming community: a corset is only comfortable if it's actually custom made/properly fitted-this is not a luxury most women could afford- and even then there are numerous activities that are made worse with the restriction the garmet creates. The discomfort was just something that the women put up with because of social restrictions (in the same way that contemporary women may put up with uncomfortable bras when leaving the house). Abby herself has also noted that part of why corsets work for her is due to her long torso - she has more space that can easily be squished down before hitting the ribs.
There’s just no logical way that most women were comfortable in their corsets. Especially poorer women who would not have been in custom garments. If they were so “comfortable” we’d still be wearing them now.
@@katie8325 As someone who wears corsets/stays more often than a bra, I have to disagree. They're actually very comfortable if custom made (I made mine myself) and a huge relief for back pain as well as improving my posture. I can still go about my day without restrictions, though I do admit that it's less comfortable to sit in one for a long period of time.
Back then, many lower class women would also make corsets themselves. They might not be as pretty as bought ones, but still functional - and since you don't wear them against your skin, they don't get dirty or easily damaged, so you needed only one or two.
The main reason we no longer wear them is mostly due to fashion: nowadays it is "in" to show a lot of skin and highlight the figure. To comfortably wear a corset or stays you need to wear at least one layer underneath it - and in case of a corset you also need something on top, since it is basically an undergarment, which means at least three layers of clothing. Not many people are still willing to do that ;)
Love this video but seriously consider not partnering with better help they have caused so much pain in people's mental health and it's really concerning that people will still sponsor them, directly causing more bad mental help experiences
This is so well made!! Elizabeth you smashed it
Thank you- I gained weight due to a lot of health issues, I have problems with it and I struggle to be positive, not because I personally have a problem with heavy people, but because I know thin people have a problem with me. I noticed it when I lost weight the first time, I noticed it gaining it back.
Everyone I know acts like I’m paranoid but people who didn’t know me when I was thin are more likely to treat me like an idiot, doctors diagnose me with fat moron instead of checking me, and people are just generally less friendly with me. Being a woman gets you assumed incompetent half the time but being a fat woman means everyone is always surprised when you can do anything ever for any reason.
So yeah, again, thank you for affirming exactly why I hate being stuck like this and agreeing it’s not in my head, I’m so sick of being told to think positively. The thin = smart association is real and a lot of my motivation to lose weight again as a knowledge worker is so people will stop treating me like an idiot. When I say losing weight is a key part of recovering my income after the health trainwreck people think I’m crazy but I know I’m right.
you might not wanna sponsor betterhelp anymore. you might lose subscribers or people might get upset
why?
Why tho
For context, betterhelp steals MASSIVE amounts of customer information, and since their therapists are all online (therefore no up and personal screens beforehand), a considerable portion of customers find the therapy redundant, straight up bad or even damaging.
I think it’s up to the viewer to decide if they want to take part in these services. Many people have found betterhelp, including myself, as extremely helpful. Not everyone has had negative or even unsatisfactory experiences. Oranges are a great fruit, widely enjoyed by millions, and yet, there are still those who hate oranges.
@@admill77 my problem with it isn’t the concept itself. my problem is that it has been found to steal tons of data from its users and it also doesn’t require the therapists on there to be actual professionals. it also makes it very difficult to cancel a subscription, im sure many people have had good experiences with it. but i feel it’s not a good idea to promote better help due to its sketchy and unprofessional practices.
I can't even imagine how much work this was - but it is so appreciated! You really killed it with this one!!
Seriously, betterhelp? Couldn’t bother to google the sponsor or was the money just more important?
That's what I thought ffs
Love how she pretends she even uses it
TBH I was also thinking the same thing
Iv seen a few comments like this and had no idea about why...I'm just sick of seeing the ads 😂 I keep blocking them they as so freaking annoying and pop up every 2 seconds
Within the first few seconds, I was hooked! The visuals are WOW. Thanks for your effort in putting this together.
I’m unsure why for someone who seems to do a lot of research on topics, you wouldn’t do research on better help and the multiple negative affects they have had on so many people. It’s very disheartening that creators are still recommending them in all honesty.
For anyone who sees this video and is considering signing up for better help PLEASE do your research before deciding to do so.
Such a well made video with so much research and information! All to be wasted on a BetterHelp sponsorship
This is very dramatic.
loved it. really wanted to see someone unpack this topic, and no one does it like you
Absolutely loved this segment and have been a fan for years. I love all your work! I think beauty has levels. Surface beauty(external) is bought and sold, inner beauty is courage, experience and strength. Shiny lustful objects feed the ego, causing temporary happiness and pleasure.
I'm still defining beauty in media, and your research has opened my mind to new possibilities. Maybe beauty is esteem and encouragement for the next generation. For them I write, research, develop sense of self and be of service the best I can, and that means mentally, physically and emotionally balanced, strive everyday for a greater cause.
Thank you for this informative message and I could write forever. Until next time.
Your biggest fan ❤
Thanks for paying her. I can’t afford to but think its worthwhile
Usually as an recently diagnosed ADHD girly i cant keep watching a video made by others all in one sitting, even movies sometimes lose my attention. I was sitting at the edge of my chair completely focused on every word you say. You truly are an informational and inspirational gem! So much work into these videos, yet beautifully edited and presented. Lovely engaging speech and honestly you inspire me to learn more and research things myself. Falling in love with the human experience while also ciritcally analysing it.
Please find a better sponsor. They're not a good company to advertise for
i know. like ik the money their offered is tempting and u run a business at the end of the day. but wouldnt u feel incredibly off making such a well made awareness video, then directly being sponsored by a company that knowingly takes advantage of ppl who wouldnt know better? spins my moral compass everytime i see it
I don’t think she knows. I mean I only found out because of a video essay on TH-cam but I doubt she spends the amount of time I do watching those types of videos. I definitely agree with you though and I’m not trying to say you aren’t allowed to be disappointed in her but I’m pretty sure she genuinely doesn’t know. 😅
@@sularosewood9649I would hope she doesn't recommend a service to people that she didn't actually research beforehand. There's a ton of videos about betterhelp on youtube
I just know who this better be about just by reading this comment.
@@sadmermaid what happened?
This video was recommended to me by TH-cam and I’m so glad I clicked. Truly a masterpiece, the fact she uses real articles, cites the sources and it’s not just saying things. I love it!
The second cosmetic plastic surgery was invented, beauty became transactional. That used to only be available to the rich, but now the public is aware and has begun using it to a degree we can see its effects in mass. It's really no different from using your money in a video game to expand a perk. There are so many scientific reasons why beauty is advantageous, that with its popularity and affordability, buying it is just intelligent.
I’ve been reading a lot lately about the microbiome and it’s link to EVERYTHING health related, including mental health.
The use of Glyphosate (Round up) is higher than ever, and with everything I’m learning I still feel anxiety when I look at the price of an organic vegetable/meat grown in a natural way.
I think one factor in the difference between weight of the rich and poor is how drenched in pesticides our food is.
Processed food are higher in chemicals, carbs and sugars, and lower in nutrition, yet far cheaper than whole organic foods. In rural South Africa, very poor women are far more likely to be obese than women in the urban centers because of easy access to cheap processed foods (and corn and rice), and the lack of availability of fresh organic foods. They walk many, many miles daily to gather water, are certainly not "lazy", but as still very obese. It really is a class issue.
Holy sht... I just learned stuff and I've been obsessively consuming body positivity, fat activism, fitness, wellness, and workout content since 2020. Cheers. I've got the BED and struggle hard to be in shape.
I was interested until the better help sponsor lol
She’s worth watching I mean I watch ads all the time I have no intentions of buying. I just am glad she gets paid 🤷♀️
"'Beauty' has never just been about beauty."
As the old saying goes, pain is beauty. In this Western world, derived from Abrahamic belief systems, suffering is the empty of goodness. A quote that comes to mind is from the Revelations of Divine Love by Julian of Norwich, in which she states: "Every trial, every loss, is an opportunity for you to meet suffering with love and make of it an offering, a prayer." To be beautiful is to be of service to others; not really as the object of desire, but as the giving act of such an experience. In essence, you love me for how I make you feel not for who I am. A flawed human being.
QUEEN NEVERRR DISAPPOINTS , LOVED THE EDITING, THE CONCEPT OF THE VIDEO . THE AMOUNT OF EFFORTS AND ARDROUS WORK HAVE BEEN PUT IINTO THIS IS COMMENDABLE . LOVE YOUU ELIZABETH. YOU LITERALLY MY FAVORITE CREATOR. ❤❤❤❤❤❤😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊
I think the information you have about victorian corsets is incorrect. Tight lacing was an anomaly of high fashion (or faked by editing photos). If you watch someone wear a recreation victorian corset, it does more to give the illusion of a small waist by padding out the bust and hips than by narrowing the waist. Working women wore corsets all day because they keep things from wobbling around... this myth that women spent their lives fainting from corset wearing would be the same as people in 100 years saying that wearing tight bras stops the lungs from fully expanding and creates a groove in the chest, it could happen, but you're wearing it very wrong if it does
I just want to point out that she didn’t say anything about corsets not being good or healthy. She only said that tight lacing was unhealthy (and it was, so she didn’t say anything incorrect there). It probably wasn’t common for common folk, but there were those people who did it, and even then it was highly controversial.
I think we could talk about Brazilian butt lifts in a similar way. It’s not very common and it’s a fairly controversial thing, but it definitely IS happening and definitely IS a dangerous procedure and if people talk about it years from now they would not be wrong for stating that it did happen and was a dangerous procedure.
So I don’t think she got the information incorrect. She never claimed all Victorian corsets were like this or even insinuated that all corsets are bad/unhealthy. She simply pointed out the dangers of tight lacing
What an impressive video! In my opinion the best you've ever made. Brilliant editing! Indeed suitable for a BBC broadcast! Thanks!
This should be shown in schools from middle school to university, this was brilliant, thoughtful, inspiring, eye-opening, literally amazing. I will be watching this again and sharing it to others because this was just a piece of art. Thank you so much for the time and effort you put into making this it is so important that more people hear this message.
This is one of the many reasons I’m enjoying the rise of ‘4B’ type movements, the worldwide falling of birth rates, marriage and heterosexual pairing, the decentering of men entirely- women and femmes rejecting the male culture and its rubbish worldwide. It is freeing all non-mainstream male individuals from mainstream male projections and culture.
Men as a group aren’t liking this, but the dominator patriarchal culture has brought its own problems on its own head.
Funny that in 40s working women were patriotism and now where I live in Europe with decreasing birth rate, they are bad
Dude I have had body image issues since I was 13, and even though my husband and my sisters tell me how beautiful I am, I am not the beauty standard. The thing is, I'm about 15lbs overweight and it takes me forever to lose one pound,.I've lost about 25 pounds and I'm at a plateu that's lasted me three years. I lose weight at half a pound a month because of my height but because of things like my menstrual cycle, sometimes that can ruin my progress. I have been daily for two or three years making sure I try to get at least 10,000 steps a day at the bare minimum. My weight is a struggle every day, I get very upset when I gain one pound because I know how long it will take to lose it.
Edit: I know that there is more that I could do, but honestly what I'm doing at the moment is very tiring and time consuming, and the idea that all the effort that I'm putting in isn't enough, is just discouraging.
The thing is I've been heavier. I was a chubby kid in school, and i gained a lot of grief weight, and I've lost most of it. I know for a fact that when you're bigger you're treated differently and unfairly. It is more than just beauty for me, it's respect and status. I also had my extremely morbidly obese best friend friend die at the early age of 36, so I also know the dangers.
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n conclusion, there are valid reasons to stay and shape and eat healthy, but also some of those reasons are unhealthy as well that have been driving me insane for over 15 years.
1:30:31 Thank you so much for speaking about gender, obesity/body weight (fatshaming), social class, power and moral beauty.
I'VE BEEN ANTICIPATING THIS VIDEO FOR SOOO LONG! LET'S GO ELIZABETH!!
Elizabeth came with a one hour and 45 minutes video it should be massive
I love this video and how much work you've put in it. I do have a comment tho about the use of corsetry and tight lacing. This was not the case at all, tight lacing was a practice only seen and used by the lite and high class as they were the only ones that could afford it and were able to due to the lack of manual work they were doing( for reasons of they had enough money to have things done for them by other people) tight lacing was a practice that regular people of middle and especially lower class would not practice if not rarely not at all. Corsets were and still are a brilliant garment that was used to support the back, bust and posture of the wearer and take all the weight of the skirts and petticoats and undergarments from the hips. The fact that it could be tight laced and able to give that look was an extra added bonus. Plus one of the most common practices of corsetry was 💫padding💫. The power of illusion was the MAIN and most common practice in relation with corsetry. That way the wearer is able to have one corset (now we have to mention that clothing was very expensive and people would have only what they need, fitted perfectly to their ever-changing bodies so they found ways to accommodate all that with very versatile garment that can take a lot of manipulation without loosing its properties) throughout trends that changes rapidly, weight gain and loss, pregnancy and Most Importanly manual labour. Lastly we have to take into account that being tight lacing was not something that had the health effects we are lead to belive by media of the time (a time where medicine was OUT OF WHACK lets say for lack of a better word). The human body and especially the waist is a fantastic part that can be squeezed and manipulated realively easily without having an effect on health due to the fat reserves and malleability. All this is not to say that there were no cases of tight lacing causing issues or people going into great lengths to achieve it but we have to remember PEOPLE WERE NOT STUPID. They knew what they were doing and common folk could not afford to follow the trends of the rich that is mostly exactly what would be advertised to media and what would be the next extreme magazine advert that would get people to talk about it. Corsets were not evil and we should start looking into things a bit better. Thank you for this amazing video i enjoyed it loads❤❤
This video was so powerful to watch! I am so in shock and I hope it blows up! Everything your said was so poignant. Thank you for making it!
Truly a remarkable piece! Within just 10 minutes, I was moved to tears by the sheer brilliance of your video. In a world saturated with information, who produce videos of such enduring value akin to timeless books, are truly extraordinary....
Wow! This video is documentary-level, and the scripting and storytelling are superb. Clapping for you here!
Thank you for your time and effort in creating this educational and visually appealing content. I appreciate your dedication to providing valuable information in an engaging manner 😊📚
Thank you!
Thanks for your fantastic grit in pulling off all the research, your authentic efforts to use your creativity in fascinating storytelling and organic way of expressing your selflessness to enlighten others about the importance of the knowledge you accumulated. 😊
This has been one of the best video essay experiences I have had. Elizabeth, your meticulous research and creative ways of linking everything together was a joy to watch. The fast but coherent pace kept me hooked the whole time while allowing me space to ponder on your words. This is possibly the best deep dive into body image I have come across and I am excited to learn more from you. Good luck on your studies, you’re made for this!!
This the kind of content that TH-cam algorithm should spread!
you just made a video dissertation on this topic...I think no one has ever tried like this in TH-cam. The Queen creating new standards with each video
The first segment of this was super interesting and great but I feel like the segment on obesity should have been a separate video - it seemed like you were making a different point and you took a fairly one dimensional view. It seems like you're stating that obesity is predominantly tied to poverty but you neglected to discuss other factors that are also involved. Binge eating disorder is very much a thing, the availability of food is definitely a factor in increased obesity rates in developed countries, and there was no discussion either into the science behind how obesity in maintained - metabolic changes, leptin resistance etc. Throughout the video there was also no discussion of the prevalence of different eating disorders throughout history and how this tied into what was going on in society at the time which would have been super interesting
Yeah a key issue with obesity is related to the fact that 1) the market is filled with high calorie foods that have been designed to be as palatable and unsatisfying as possible.
it feels like im watching an art project video that is yet so informative and philosophically thought through rather than a yt video. I really appreciate your work Elizabeth (sorry for mistakes, eng is my 4. language)
“Extreme sport in emotional regulation.” What a phrase!
What an incredible work! Enjoyed every moment of it.
What I find amazing is that some people didn’t seem to absorb more than what is advertised in this video.
I was the 5000th like to this video. But quite frankly, it should be so much higher. This is so well done, well researched, informative and just overall brilliant. Thank you
I can hear your anger in your voice at the injustice at all of this. You’ll be a good doctor, Elizabeth.
This type of lengthy video really fits your style. This must have taken so much time and work, I'm impressed.
The research and work you’ve done here is incredible, feels like this should have taken 10 people at least. You really should be proud. I also study medicine and I actually believe we all should know this info, it would really change the way these patients get treated, it’s really surprising that most of us ignore this information and have silenced this part of side of history
My everyday search in hopes of a new Elizabeth video is at last successful ❤ Brilliant work 👏!
This was an amazing deep dive into a subject I didn’t know much about, and your detailed research combined with your personal experience made it all the more persuasive! Thanks for sharing with the world and for posting on Nebula. I originally found you there and it was good to see you posting again :)
also thank you for adding your voice to the number of doctors pushing for the understanding of diseases within tjeor sociological contexts
Eyyy she's back! You were missed. Hope all's good with you. I do enjoy your content. I was very helpful.
how is this so well produced, written, researched
incredible
why betterhelp????
Bc shes a money hungry influencer
8min in & i'm almost in tears... definitely going to love this one
Thank you so much for this video. I have 3 nieces.. they've all been dealing with beauty standards for years now and 2 of them are only 14. I'm going to show them this video after having a conversation with them about all of this. Thank you again.
I was so moved by the end where you highlighted the reality of discrepancy in health outcomes and the factor of luck.
I am someone that has suffered from mental illness my entire life and have always gotten in some way directly or indirectly blamed for it.
It has caused me so much unecessary stress blaming myself for not being better.
I do exercise, I do eat healthily, I do motivate myself and continue to push myself to be better and I do love myself.
These are all the same things overweight people are accused of neglecting, while many people do not consider the fact that most people struggle in life not because of self-neglect, but because of factors outside of their control.
I am trying to come to terms with the fact that my suffering hasn't necessarily been ''for a reason,'' ''to make me stronger,'' or even worse, my own doing; but because I've simply been unlucky.
And while that is a tough pill to swallow, because it means that there won't be a point where I finally ''learn my lesson'' and be rewarded with a happy life
It also means that I could finally let go of the idea that I somehow deserve my fate and simply accept that I don't have control over whether things work out for me or not. I can only live as I am capable. And I am not a spiritually corrupt person for suffering and others are not better and more deserving because they are suffering less.
I wish we could all gain some understanding for the variance in the subjective experience of a human being and stop the blame condemnation of people who are already struggling enough without it.
The episode about feminine beauty that I'm watching on Elizabeth's channel. Coincidence? I don't think so. Consistency and harmony.
Im not beautiful but im pretty cynical, nonetheless its inspiring knowing your Adhd, or non linear thinking, has not stopped you from med school, your channel. I have to say, your thumbnails are my favorite on youtube, theyre like movie posters, thanks for not making the shocked / surprised face.
I watched this when it was first put out and I'm back to say this is such an incredible piece, Elizabeth! Someone already said it but I am in awe of your research and analysis, and on top of that, the production!! You have been my favorite creator ever since!! ♡
Quite interesting. I thought most of our beauty ideals were driven by marketing, but never considered the abundance or lack of resources do too. BTW, I’m impressed with all the references. This video must have taken a lot of work.
Hey Elizabeth! I really enjoy your content, I have followed you for a while and deeply admire your commitment to making high-quality videos, from research to the editing of it. For this reason, I'm really disappointed that you chose to be sponsored by BetterHelp, I understand if you haven't heard about the poor service they offer but, I hope you don't consider them for future collaborations.
This is pure gold. Thank you so much! ❤
I stopped watching at 11 seconds because of the better help sponsorship. I’m done with creators taking money from shady companies. Bye.
What everyone else said about not using better help!
Thank you so much for creating and sharing this! It is beyond me how you managed to find the time for this extensive research and then sum it all up in under two hours and this increadibly relatable und understandable way. You have my utmost respect for that. I feel incredibly seen and understood and this has helped me so much on an academic AND emotional level. I have shared it with all my friends. We all need to hear this.
This video is fantasticly made and very very rage inducing. How did this happen? People really do shape the world around ideas , regardless of truth
This is pure art just want to see how you create this masterpieces😍
This is so creatively done! Very esthetic for a video on ugliness! I'm becoming more and more attracted to realness and over the impossible beauty standards of today. I think every time period has unrealistic beauty standards we would be wise to reject or at least not allow it to rule over us.
Thank you for making this! Growing up without a grandma, my mom always told me, she got colon cancer because she didn’t eat vegetables. So before I have the freedom to choose what to eat, I always see food as the medicine I get to choose. And maybe the idea of food are not are supposed to be all delicious as long as they are the most accessible good fuel for our body will help if we learnt that before we developed a preference for flavour. Since you just showed us how much bs in the history of social guidance of weight and beauty standards, I feel the light hearted way for me of how fit I should be is if I stand a chance if I’m chased by a wild animal. So happy to see your channel growing from 30k follower to almost a million! Please keep doing what you believe, so jealous of the kids get to grow up watching these contents and form a more informed opinion about themselves and society.❤❤❤
This was such a well-made video that I didn’t even realise it was nearly 2 hours long! Great job Elizabeth.
😳what ! 1 hour 43 minutes of Elizabeth Filips's work😍
The depth of research is impressive but the title would benefit from specifying western/caucasian female beauty. Great work and would be super interested to know the bibliography of the literature consulted.
watched this video a few days ago and just had to come back and say how great it was. your videos always impress me
I remember this topic from your podcast! Nice to see you tackle other topics that interest you (other than productivity/reading).
This video is truly phenomenal! Well done!
every time I go to my doctor for my diabetes I have a major set back with my ed. most of the time it's in remission but I have to go tomorrow and last week was horrible, just because of the stress. they say everytime losing weight is not the goal but I have been told so many times that I'm to fat and when people hear I have diabetes they always ask type 1 or 2, just to decide if they should blame me for it. I have type 2 and it's not because I'm overeating, I am not fat because I am overeating. I have multiple health issues that cause this. the fact I have to stand on the scale tomorrow (why if losing weight isn't important) is causing me so much stress.
sorry for the rant 😅 this article is so understanding, it helped
A unique and much-needed set of observations!
Masterpiece, loved it. Thank you for putting this together!
Completely blown away by your video! An masterpiece.... The research, philosophy and history, your video editing skills, scripting, storytelling, its a chiefs kiss.
As a teenager, when I first got to know about Aphrodite and saw its statue... I thought to myself "being zero figure was not always a beauty standard- " and then wondered how did the shift take place... Guess I've got my answers today, a 19 year old 😄
I want to convey my utmost appreciation and respect for your incredible work. You're such an inspiration!
As a soon to be doctor myself, I am disappointed that you are promoting better help. They have been known to leak and share patient data, and there are harrowing accounts of users becoming retraumatised by their untrained counsellors. I'm sure promoting a counselling service in a video with a heavy topic came from good intentions, but they really are a net harm
Well done .. this is an amazing important topic. The video should be on national TV.
Thank you sooo much for this video. I can’t imagine how much work went into it but it definitely paid off. Please make more lengthy documentary style videos like this 🥺