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China denying things? Imagine my shock
Pfp makes perfect sense
Its not human to human transmissible guys, definitely not airborne for a few months longer at least either.
Why would it say the truth? Lying seems to work perfectly well for the US.
I agree Rusty Shackleford
And the United States refusing to sign any new space treaties, why am I not shocked !
One of the worst ideas I've heard about the moon, was that some corporations wanted to install devices that would basically light up as advertising billboards that could be seen from earth. It's hard for me to imagine that anyone could look at the beauty of the moon, and even begin to imagine that would be a good place to flash advertisements. : (
Oh yeah. That's an old idea, maybe from the 60s. I heard of it when I was a kid, and I could hardly believe anyone would even imagine such a thing!
Now we can see that it is likely they will use Earth orbiting satellites to illuminate the moon to put their message on it. Could do it from low orbit with disposable satellites. Expensive, but so are Super Bowl ads.
@@JoeOvercoat Ties with worst idea ever...of doing ads from the moon.
And they'd probably end up starting some new religion in an uncontacted amazonian tribe.
@@justindunlap1235 Hell, you might just start a religion in a random group of Americans.
Two aliens pull up and scan earth from orbit- “they have advanced nuclear weapons and ICBM’s” says the pilot, “ah, so do we think we’re dealing with an intelligent being?” Asks the co-pilot, the pilot just bursts into laughter “Nooo! They’re pointing them at themselves!!”
❤❤❤❤❤
Biblio: cartoon from playboy magazine
😂
Almost feels bad to laugh at something that is so close to reality that's it shouldn't be funny.. almost think that the 👽 part would be the sain part of the story becouse why would we actually blow each other up.. but we have & didn't learn much it seems
I always lean more towards incompetence and embarrassment as the main drivers in government cover ups, than dangerous conspiracies. It seems likely that the Chinese government messed up, and instead of admitting it they deny because that's what governments default to. They don't want to seem human, weak and prone to mistakes like any group of people trying to maintain a large operation.
That’s stupid sounding tbh
@@geraltofrivia4651 oh well if it's stupid sounding I'll have to reconsider 🙄
Yep, it's called Hanlon's razor.
@@themysteryofbluebirdboulevard I didn't realize there was a name for this! :o thank you x
Your naïveté isn’t charming or endearing…
If there's one thing history has taught me, it's that if a war starts in space, it's going to advance space science like nothing else ever could
Good point. You know there's a cabal of space nerds right now trying to make that happen.
I know you're young, but there is no outer space ! and they're never left earth atmosphere...research and learn, don't believe.
Avis Lang, Neil deGrasse Tyson: Accessory to War, is a book i can recommend elaborating on your point. Greezies.
@@lilbrothaizwatching That clown wrote a children's book? Haha
If that meteor would have hit Russia in 2013, instead of getting blown out of the sky by extraterrestrials, the world would likely be considering war obsolete as the destructive capabilities of the universe are a much larger threat. But instead, lives were saved and life moves on while humanity will inevitably turn to war again. A war in space would be horrible. The movie Gravity sets a good example on what would happen to most of, if not all of the satellites - space debris and useless garbage it would turn into, eventually raining down through our atmosphere over decades. I'm sure humans in space, if nerdy enough to be part of it, would also be too nerdy to want to declare war against other nerds with the potential to lose it all. Laws will likely be strict and extremely enforced to preserve the tech as long as possible and as more tech is added in orbit around us.
In the 1990s, there was a group called the Artemis Project or Institute where you could "stake a claim" like in the gold rush days to territory in space. It was purely whimsical and totally unenforceable, but I took my shot and filed a claim for King's Crater on the Moon, extending out from the center to a radius of 50 miles. I have my claim certificate framed and in a box in storage. I should probably dig it out and hang it somewhere.
So you are the guy who did that. Lol
@@scott83gmail 🤣
Hell maybe you just made your great great great grandchildren very wealthy. You know the Outer Space Treaty will not survive into the next century. Once we colonize the moon fighting will happen.
Only in Ohio
@@AcidGambit419 Sounds like an usual GUNDAM story ^^. And you are right, I am with you.
Would have liked to hear more about the double crater.
Exactly. What a nonsense video.
@5:20 your talking about a country that paints their dead land green , and plants white rocks on top of reo-bars so it looks like their are growing fields from space ... and builds a heap of electric cars that they pretend to sell but are just left sitting in massive car graveyards
A wise man once said, "Don't trust China, China is asshoe".
Your take on peaceful space operations reminds of when so many thought FB would be the great equalizer-giving a voice to underserved and overlooked people. And we all see how naive that take was.
lol yep space always been about defense and military. science was just what was needed to get the weapons there.
This exactly why we have the space weapons treaties. But we deliberately don’t prevent anyone from flying satellites over “competitors” countries. Such flights are far too useful.
International law in fact does not exist. If a country wants to oppress its people or fly nuclear tipped rockets anywhere it likes there is no legal force to stop them. Think NK or it’s much bigger neighbour. Or the other big and nasty country that thinks it can do what it likes.
FB and other ‘social media’ is not permitted to ‘give voice’ to everyone, because some of the ‘underserved and overlooked’ people may believe in or otherwise espouse opinions that the majority may find uncomfortable or impermissible. We only tolerate the marginalized who sit safely within the Overton Window.
@@davidelliott5843 Furthermore, if only a handful of countries prohibited that, spaceflight would be virtually impossible due to orbital mechanics. You can't just change the course of a satellite to such a great degree to fly around countries, not at these velocities. It has to approximately cover a great circle around the Earth. This applies to everything, every rocket, satellite, natural or artificial things, even if you are just starting to go somewhere else in the solar system. It's not possible to have both spaceflight at all and that prohibition.
Hey Astrum. I have noticed one minor video mistake. I as a Czech person I heard about Artemis accords when Artemis 1 launch was happening and I am proud to tell you that Czechia/Czech Republic recently joined too so it isn't 23 countries, but it is 24 countries whose signed it. 👍 (I hope you noticed it)
I noticed early on that he showed Japan twice, so perhaps he or his editor meant to add your wonderful country there instead.
The US extent of deep state/cabal/shadow govt/officials have been major hypocrites, and actually been with their major guilty responsible cause and role of war/world crimes including collaboration with Israel officials/organizations waring and harming parts of surrounding countries, including a significant role with what had been going on in Ukraine. Look up Robert Kennedy Jr., Corbett Report, Amazing Polly, TLAV (thelastamericanvagabond), Stew Peters show; independent reporting on for years; many more and more Americans are calling out the corruption of the US shadow govt/officials etc.
Is Artemis the God of war?
Prehaps, but mistake is still a mistake and It's not that big deal I just wanted to say that as fact that Artemis accords might get more countries in the near or far future so we could prevent these situations and being more friendly to each other :) and thanks for saying that.
@@nodescriptionavailable3842Aries is god of war; Artemis is the god of the hunt and is associated with the moon.
I think that "for all mankind" is a series which perfectly emulates how space exploration is going to digress into just another front for cock races between nations eventually. Now I do hope that it doesn't happen but I don't have any trust in any government to avoid this future
However, there's nothing like a little competition to improve people's performance.
A nice little war in space would open up the purse-strings and boost progress spectacularly.
Without a clear, easily-understood aim, people just bleat on about instead spending the money on saving the homeless/sick/disabled/children/global warming/cute animal (insert your favourite drain on resources), hence the relatively slow progress so far since reaching the Moon 50 years ago.
@@robertstallard7836 This comment is absolutely not a good look for you buddy... haven't you learned there's no such thing as a "nice little war"... I swear, some people have no souls. Or at the very least have had them extinguished. Calling the homeless and sick drains on resources? Disabled people?! Children?! Downplaying climate change and animal rights, claiming they're slowing progress. You should be ashamed of yourself. No one in good conscience would ever type out this comment. Please seek professional help!
The Aliens there won't allow that to happen.
@@robertstallard7836Is the implication here that we should stop caring about those in need, and about global warming? Let's just cook the planet and let the sick and the poor starve so that we can have a bit of a scuffle on the moon?
@@EllaKarhu Congratulations!
You have won straw-man argument of the year competition (and it's still only January!).
_“Weapons of middling destruction.”_
That’s hilarious. Like saying “Don’t worry guys, we’re only doing a little bit of genodlde.”
International law is a funny joke
Any power will flout such law, for their own benefit and in spite of their contemporaries.
It's only like that because it falls into nobody's best interest to enforce it on said power. Simple game theory. If there is an outcome that is worth it, it will definitely get enforced.
On earth, this is rarely worth it. But in space? It might just be.
Yeah the US, Russia and China all violate it on a daily basis and then use other people breaking it as a justification for acts of war.
It's really frustrating how our representatives think only about "doing that first so nobody else can" instead of "doing that first to share it with everybody else".
US was the first to use nuclear weapons in war, and i would't want for everyone to be doing that, but i get your point.
@@O5MO nukes should either be for everyone or no one. Having a warmonger like the US be the only one with nuclear weapons on the globe is a very, very bad thing. Not good. Scary.
If the U.S.don't do it first China or Russia will.
Actually, I get your point, but I vehemently disagree. There are many many countries who are not responsible enough to engage in space exploration. There's a reason why we don't give countries in Africa and the Middle East blueprints for our rockets. Because they'd attach nuclear warheads or conventional explosives to them, and start blowing each other and everyone else around them up. Once a country becomes responsible enough to develop capability for space exploration, they'll come to that on their own terms, not the West's.
9:05 Astrum is missing the Czech republic which joined the Artemis accord 2 weeks ago.
Jeremy Clarkson: "There's Moon Police?" Astrum: There's Moon Police.
Imagine brains from all over the world combining all of their great idea’s together. That’s real evolution.
Lmao you like cheddar cheese and you like chocolate, but nothing good happens when you put them together.
@@BlooCollaGal lmao not according to ratatouille. He was combing 🧀 with 🍓
Sounds like the Borg from Star Trek
I feel like this channel has gotten increasingly clickbaity with the titles, which I find a little disheartening. The videos themselves aren't usually overly sensationalist, but between this and "The universe does not exist," "Science has no answers about UFOs," and thumbnails about "This Broke physics" all seem really disingenuous.
I dont understand why these channels need to go so low to use clickbait titles, it actively does the opposite of what they want it to do with engagement.
Literally nothing clickbaity about this title. He is angry about an explosion and space debris. That’s the subject and that is what he is talking about. Not sure how that qualifies as click bait.
It's because clickbaity titles work.
The title for this video isn't click bait.
I too, noticed it in the past several days. It certainly is a recent change & others are saying the same as you.
"Maybe, as a people, we need to grow up not just technologically, but civilly too." Very well said!
Unfortunately, that's going to be a tall order.
Not a chance.
Never gonna happen.
There will always be people wanting to kill you. Modern civilization is vastly civil, but nations will always have to keep each other in check. It is a fool who thinks they'll give up their weapons and so will their neighbor.
We need to stop voting the children into power, then.
I love how it's always "we need to grow", despite all of our societal advances. It's never "they need to grow". They, who live under totalitarian authority and break their word regularly. We are fine, they are the ones causing most of the trouble. Make them grow up for a change.
The problem with international law is that there is no single body above all which has the absolute authority to interviene. Treaties are more like a guidelines shaped together in good faith. And every country is mostly responsible of their own actions unless there is some other country or countries with enough power to interviene in case something illegal happens.
Awesome use of verbs, couldn't have put it as eloquently as you but spot on correct what needs to happen ....... the ultimate goal as we progress out from our planet into undiscovered country is to do it as one people not many nations
Astrum: *Posts video*
me: “my day is complete”
Considering how much we already have in orbit around the planet (that is manmade), I'm very surprised that collisions aren't more common.
Space is huge
Be like emptying a barrel of marbles all over a desert, chances are remote you'll hit one when driving through.
Most space debris is in low earth orbit (about 1200 miles) and would burn up upon reentry. The moon is a quarter-million miles away.
Look up "Kessler syndrome". Cascading space debris LEO collisions were thought of back in 1978. This was well before space became a multinational commercial venture.
"In 2009 Kessler wrote that modeling results had concluded that the debris environment was already unstable, "such that any attempt to achieve a growth-free small debris environment by eliminating sources of past debris will likely fail because fragments from future collisions will be generated faster than atmospheric drag will remove them"".
@@rburns9730 Space vehicles would need really good armor, then we'd lose much of what little weight we have to use for payload. Unless we'd have to came up with sci-fi 'forcefields' to protect vehicles
I'm tickled to find a SW TIE fighter "hidden in plain sight" in that briefly displayed image. Nicely done.
NEPTUNE. I love the fact that it has the most intense winds in the system, not to mention it sometimes becomes the 7th furthest from our son.
one major accident in space that cascades out of control can keep us out of space for decades, maybe more depending on the magnitude of the incident. imagine how that would alter the course of civilization when you combine the inability to get back into space, with the chaos the loss of satellites would cause back on earth considering the times we are in.
You don't see it coming, do you? Space will become a battlefield, just like every other place humanity treads in numbers.
That's a common lie spread by negligent "science communicators".
LEO is nowhere near crowded enough for this to be a problem in the near future, space is big and debris is small.
I don't think I can agree with your premise. We are already far too invested as a global society to let even a major incident (the ISS falling on the Kremlin, for a silly worst-case exemplar) or a pinball effect as one piece of junk starts a cascade. IT just means getting up there to clean it up, and create deployable shields for existing satellites and labs.
@@daviddesrosiers1946 I'm not religious, but for those who are, they see placing weapons in space as an affront to God. Eventually though it probably will happen, for the reasons you mentioned.
Thinking it will happen soon. We might sort the Earth out then.
You make such great content. Appropriate resolution for a layman like me. Doesn’t seem glossed over but not burdened with excessive technical jargon that would go over my head. A perfect balance.
You don't write like any layperson I know. You sound more well read than 99% of college graduates these days.
Exactly what was running threw my head reading his comment.....
@Agent Entropy "Layman" or "layperson" as you say, does not mean they are a high school dropout or uneducated.
This video is terrible. A terrible waste of time for everybody. How you dare saying this is "great content". You liked because there was nothing to learn from it. Really disappointing. Both you and the creator are probably toxic people only interested in feeding nonsense to the masses. Maybe you did like the terrible new-age music? Go buy an Enya CD and don't bother us with your lack of curiosity, please. If you have nothing to say from a video that has nothing to say, don't say nothing!!!!!!
how many years did he practice that narration down at the mason hall
I love the background music that you used. Is there a place where one could get it?
Beautiful and inspiring, as are all your works. Thanks.
I think the only reason there are agreements about not exploiting space is because no one is able to do it yet. You think if the moon is found to have significant financial or military advantage that someone won’t go and claim it?
I would have to think you are correct. And frankly I don't even slightly believe there aren't weapons in space, nukes included.
@@deadbirdwalking1159Nukes in space doesn't make any sense. Nuclear countries already have the capability to launch nukes anywhere on the planet. Doing it from space is just much harder with no benefit.
@@rayquaza1245 Lasers in space are more plausible, though.
@@SeekingTheLoveThatGodMeans7648 Except, a laser would not be able to penetrate the atmosphere.
_Pam_
There is a ton of resources on the sea bed yet the agreements block the mining pretty effectively, don't underestimate the thing the countries themselves voted for
Sometimes I feel like we will never get any significant and meaningful leap forward with space exploration WITHOUT conflict
The books Delta-V and Critical Mass both deal with near future space exploration and there is a LOT of conflict. Mind you it's fictional, but I don't think it's too off base.
yea space never been about science. nobody cares, its always been about military and defense.
thats what a lot of philosophers have thought about, without conflict there is also no incentive to progress further, but thats wrong because if you replace all current people living on earth with people from the 50s or 60s then we would be already on mars and beyond, simply because they can so just do it no matter what price
as long as people keep preying on each other for resources, there will be conflict
@@chichangwu The cold war was definitely a conflict...
i remember in the late 90s reading an artical that nasa (the one with the serpents red tongue through their emblem)
was throwing junk at the moon...
mj
I remember they touched on this subject in one episode of the Gerry Anderson TV series " UFO " ( 1969 ) - The Dalotek Affair.
We need more than just agreements. Agreements don't work when you have countries who do whatever the hell they want, and then lie about it. They already know nobody will step up and hold them accountable.
You mean like,…every country?
Are you talking about Israel, China, Russia, North Korea or the US?
@@pebbles9973Yes
Hence the big stick part of "Speak softly and carry a big stick"
"Countries who do whatever they want" Tell me you want a world government without telling me you want a world government
We can pretend the Moon isn't up for grabs, but really, we all know territory on the Moon and elsewhere will belong to whoever gets there first and whoever has the biggest stick.
Just like the rest of human history. Unless someone with a bigger stick tells everyone else to stop fighting over it. There WILL be fights over it.
This. There's historical precedent when it comes to colonization or exercising spheres of influence, and space law is effectively useless without anyone being there to enforce it.
@@SuperCatacata America tried that after WWII at the behest of Europe and look how that worked out.
Definitely
Lack of trust is the understatement of the century,more like,Absolutely No Trust…
I love what you're doing with your voice and pacing. It's so soothing. Peace
How long until neon lights on the moon flash the latest sales at target?
You jest, but advertising companies have seriously considered making satellite constellations that act like those big LED billboards, but in orbit. Really awful idea, if you ask me. I hope we can create some sort of international agreement to keep this from happening.
@@saml7610 The first time I saw the Space X satelite stream in orbit, that is what I thought of; some company sending up a bunch of cube sats that flash an advertisement then somehow get around the rules because they will de orbit themselves after x amount of days.
Such a bad idea. Scientist are already raising alarms due to the light pollution from the satellites already in orbit. Studying space from Earth is getting more and more difficult. As much as I love space and sci-fi I am not looking forward to the exploitation and destruction of the moon and other areas of our solar system... 😢
Imagine the biggest billboard that is "out of this world", that is the whole face of the Moon.
Love the displates, Astrum! The closeups show the beauty of our solar system in a way I've yet to see captured on posters. Those venus clouds look spectacular! Maybe in the future, I would love a version without the names on top!
Mars will always be my favorite planet ever since i had to do a project on it in like second grade. Very cool planet
5:20 Yes, believe the people who literally lie about everything.
of course space will also be a place for wars, as long as humanity exists there will always be wars....
It is sad to say but truth is orbit is the new high ground and she who controls the high ground controls the battle.
i am sad to say yes. this race has begun...
I wouldn't expect humans to behave any better in space than they do on Earth. Asking the Chinese government if they did something irresponsible is like asking a 5 year old if they stole a cookie, but they are far from alone in this.
It's sad an cynical, I know.
Denying something in plain sight is the signature trait of communism. Happened with the Soviets, and it happens with the CCP & DPRK today. When there's no institution the counter-balances (and hence could defend you legally and possibly physically from) the government, and the government doesn't want you to admit a plain truth, you just....don't admit what's in front of you because you don't want punishment.
I agree. Regardless of any treaty, eventually someone is going to take guns into space because they take their Earthbound fears and paranoia with them.
Nothing has proved itself more jealous, selfish and paranoid than the sum of the world's governments (with a very few exceptions).
Look at the U.S., everyone bitching about China but the #1 terrorist state is, the U.S.
Yeah, I wish I could cryo freeze myself for 1000 years and then see if we got better, or no one would wake me in which case we didn't, and I'd be fine with that.
When I was a teenager, I couldn't help noticing that governments acted rather like infants in some ways. I don't believe humans can ever do an acceptable job of ruling themselves, but rather than feeling cynical about it, I'm hoping for God's Kingdom. I believe there is reasonable evidence for it and for the Bible's authenticity. There's planty of evidence for the Bible's contents having been preserved with astonishing accuracy, and I find philosophical arguments to be unconvincing.
I'm hoping that it will be call nice and the best way I think would be for all nations to set up one base on the moon and then set up a counsel with a member from each country
"This Makes Me Angry"
Oh, calm down.
Earth is by far the most beautiful planet !
That part about lunar neutrality should have been seen as obviously unsustainable from the start but I suppose when it was written it was likely meant to delay conflict as long as possible. Unless they figured that they could put it off long enough for the world to unite under one government.
Or unless the accord was agreed upon to appear non-competitive until a solid advantage was achieved.
You want a one world government? Yeah fuck that.
Lol good luck with your one world government.
Yeah no ones gonna own the moon mate, you seen The Expanse? They will become their own nation very quickly
@@lucian5389 Agreed, but it would be less bloody if you set up a framework for lunar property rights from the start. What the video is suggesting would start the colony under the yoke of a future UN or other international organization. The moon should be as open to property claims as any other place, as these will likely come first from governments and companies, and eventually the inhabitants (who would be better-able to defend them than the claimants on Earth, who would then essentially be forced to accept recompense from the lunarians).
Collective ownership doesn't work on Earth, we shouldn't bring such philosophical mistakes to space.
More people need to know about this. I'll be sharing. Well donel.
Even more offensive was when the Apollo orbiter jettisoned the contents of their septic tank onto the moon. That was during the 2 minute break in communication, to hide the toilet flush sign, according to one astronauts memoirs.
All due respect, Astrum, but I think you underestimate the force of will that profit provides to the greedy and morally bankrupt. Calls for peace and cooperation are absolutely bound to fall on deaf ears when there is so much money to be made and, ultimately, it will be this greed that dooms us to ruin the prospects of space exploration and expansion. Whether this is the cascading kessler effect, or maybe something else, I see little hope for the future of this field if the sociopaths in charge of creating profit continue to have free reign over what goes into our night skies.
Agreed. The world has a problem and its not a Technological one, its a moral one.
@@jehiahmaduro6827 I agree, the only solution to the morality problem is Christ.
Nonsense
@@alinpetrescu2309 Oh No 🤦♀️ Not for all the non Christians. People genuinely do not need religion to have a strong sense morals, my friend.
@@alinpetrescu2309not at all, that would make it far easier for these people to control you as you will blindly follow what these “pastors” will tell you. Religion is very good for controlling large ammount of people and Christianity is no exception
Its like a wise man once said: "Laws/agreements are meant to be broken"
No matter how hard we try to keep things peaceful, there will always be at least one person that doesn't give a sh*t.
So yeah, i do believe space could become a "wild west" soon. And that is honestly scary. Straight out of Star Wars or Halo and all those scifi movies/games.
only 50 years till cowboy bebop takes place
Someone (not wise) may have said it, but Laws are not meant to be broken! People just tell themselves that to ease their guilt!
@@Hogger280 Tell me u don't get the term without telling me u don't get the term.
I mean that EVENTUALLY rules are going to be broken even if they were made to not be broken. Thats just how society works 😒😒😒
We won't be getting Star Wars, not enough government involvement for that.
@@jacob5395
"The Russians got to space! We gotta fight back and go to the moon instead"
"No space weapons allowed"
"Who's mistake was that? Was it u China??"
"The moon shall only be used for peaceful means"
"No one shall claim a celestial body or part of it as theirs"
"You cant go to space without being authorized by the government"
Yeah. Not enough government involvement at all lol.
Pretty bold to call for peace on the Moon or in space in general when we still commonly have wars on Earth...
What I can't work out, if satellites are now being used for communication, why are they so reliant on the cables under the ocean, connecting all the continents. 🤔
Harder to intersect, also a physical cable is easier to use.
I think there is a deeper analysis that could be had of whether China pays much attention to international law, or modifies its conduct as a result.
Hun, international law only applies to weaker/subservient nations. Neither the US or China follow it.
China should follow the lead of the west and breach international law in limited and specific ways whenever necessary.
The answer is no and the world is afraid to tell them that. China basically owns the world at this point.
China adhiring to international law? Thatll be the day.
The US extent of deep state/cabal/shadow govt/officials have been major hypocrites, and actually been with their major guilty responsible cause and role of war/world crimes including collaboration with Israel officials/organizations waring and harming parts of surrounding countries, including a significant role with what had been going on in Ukraine. Look up Robert Kennedy Jr., Corbett Report, Amazing Polly, TLAV (thelastamericanvagabond), Stew Peters show; independent reporting on for years; many more and more Americans are calling out the corruption of the US shadow govt/officials etc.
it doesn't look like a "double crater" but like a single crater next to an existing mound which clearly shows a slope.
What truly mortifies me to think about- the same place that has video of ppl walking by a kid that has been freshly run over in the street (like carrying on their day), and too many other vids showing similar lack of care for their fellow- THAT place also has the ability to put a rocket into space. That is fucking horrifying.
The idea that space exploration will be peaceful is so naive. Where we go conflict goes
Love all the topics and problems you bring up, thanks you
A big problem I see is bribery and corruption. Laws are only as strong as the people who enforce them, and I've never seen or heard of an 'enforcer' who won't trade it all for a dollar.
I always say our laws are only strong as the paper they're written on. It's up to us to respect the law.
Those space plates look awesome.
Imagine the things getting launched up there we never hear about for the last 60 years
I don’t understand the whole contamination thing when it pertains to the moon. Like oh no, we’re going to ruin the moon’s ecosystem with our earth microbes. Like wuttt
On moon, there can be no life on the surface because of lack of atmosphere, but on other planets, like Mars and Venus, we still dont know if microbial life exists/existed. If it does, we wouldn't want to contaminate it with something from a very diffrent ecosystem.
Having contaminants would skew future measurements of future missions, possible sending us looking for something that doesn't exist
If a chemical in that booster is unknown and not is on the moon…. Later on people who detect it will mistakenly think it is from the moon…. essentially ruining any possible chance for controlled scientifically valid experiments… It is a big deal that can only get bigger..
As an alienated person I can honestly say if I was an actual Alien with spaceships I would not let anything leave this planet.
Sounds aggressive.
sounds sane. humanity is an ant nest.
Surely the meercat would be allowed safe passage.
@@slavesdetach HAH! Great comment ;)
As much as I would love to explore I'd have to agree I could not be doing any good out ther!
I notice the Tie fighter at 3:30 but then I realized this is all from an Imperial Assault Carrier so naturally there would be a Tie fighter among the debris field.
It really sucks how one of the downsides to our species is we are so caught up in our own drama to care about the bigger picture and just want to control vanity things that will only last as long as they live.
My favorite is Earth as well, but 2nded by the mysterious Venus. The fact that we have some images of the surface sparks so much curiosity; I hope to see more one day! Excellent video as always!
I am fascinated with uranus
@@PsRohrbaugh Are you searching for Klingons?
It took me way too long to realise 2nded means seconded.
Why the weird SMS-era slang in the middle of an otherwise formally written comment?
@@PsRohrbaugh It contains quite a lot of gas ngl
I hear it's as cold as,,well you get the picture. Once the thought is there you can't unthink it. 😂
China is already in violation of many of the “space laws” you refer to. China fails to provide orbital information to other nations which would allow other nations to compute where the Chinese boosters will re enter.
As to the weapons treaty, many analysts believe that China and Russia have already deployed anti satellite weapons in space, so the treaty would really only affect future US efforts.
If that's the case the us has too.
These kind of “laws” are made up by people with no authority to do so.
America violates international laws and agreements they create all the time. Funny how nobody is outraged about that. Gotta love the double standards and how ironic? During a time where the ideation of waging war against the PRC is amping up!
@@SharonHeckman-wl8yr The thing is these Americans who pretend to be so outraged don't care when their own country breaks laws/agreements. In fact, some encourage it, since they view America as a shining beacon of freedom, peace and democracy. They're so free they hold 25% of the worlds prison populace with only 4% of the world's population. They're so peaceful they have been waging perpetual war for centuries in multiple countries. They're so democratic that even by western standards they don't even exist in the top twenty countries that practice it with record low approval rates across the country. It's almost as if the country and its people are nothing more than chauvinistic hypocrites.
The same analysts that say Iraq had WMDs and Usama was in Afghanistan? They same analysts whose bosses defrauded the 2020 elections?
The thought of nukes stored in space orbiting earth ready to be released scares me more for some reason lol
Wonderful video, thank you!
I would like to submit my bid to clean the firmament glass...!!!!!
Where can I submit my bid...????
Now hiring glass professional cleaners...😊
Funny comment. I would love to have a telescope that catches the big window in the sky's cleaners!! 🤣
In the end, the one that can hold a piece of "land" in outerspace, can simply claim that piece.
Its how humanity works in the end, if you cant defend your piece of the pie, that piece will be taken away by someone else eventually.
this is also incudling aleins form other solar sisitems that want to take that pie for the themselfs once we no longer qulafy being under a law of rpotection by the aleins own laws when we get too big at a cernatin point.
“hey they cant build a base on the moon!”
“ok go up there and arrest em”
@@fluffypinkpandas acatly they cant enforce that anyway bescue theres no weapnos in space form the same set of laws so cacth 22 untill there armed stuff in space to enforce space law.
@@ashtiboy exactly ppl cant do anything other than cope and seethe once there is a rogue madlad offworld
@@nordicvader5755 the “rights” a squatter has becomes fully realized when the home owner is unable to defeat the squatter
if you are losing armed combat and all attempts at retaking your pocket-sized jerusalem from a couple tweakers, then your status is below that of a tweaker
not sorry
someone had to say it
Omg think about all the wildlife that booster killed when it hit that pristine Moon wilderness
Now if we had a custom space shuttle that stayed in space. Possibly docked at international space station. Its job could be rounding up space junk into the poles or direct it into the atmosphere if small enough. We should be cleaning up space around earth not dumping constantly more.
That would be like using a pair of grooming tweezers to pick up a very specific shade of beige sand grains, by hand, along all the world’s beaches…
Idont quite think you understand just how VAST this Orbital Debris field is, most of which is largely pieces the size of aforementioned grains, moving in erratic directions at many hundred thousand miles per hour…
You are literally looking for a grain of sand In Space…
What blows my mind is that they can tell what kind of paint is on the thing and where it came from, while it's orbiting the Earth.
I mean, they just looked at it. You can look at something and see the style and color of paint
Satellite photos can tell a nickel from a quarter laying on the sidewalk...
Spectrograph says Titanium white, who uses titanium white? oh, NASA do. Derrr
and who stole all their tech from nasa?@@nevyngould1744
U must be slow...
I think a good follow up to this would be to further explain the Kessler syndrome and how diasterus this would be for further space exploration for our planet as a whole (and yes I know you have explained this a bit beforehand , however I think that should be the main focus here). I disslike the tranistion from a Russian test missile creating thousands of bits of space debris to a US FCC violation
Wild West Space sounds fine to me. Law and order have never preceded frontier life.
That is tripe, towns in the west made people hand in guns and pick them up on way out, your a land of myth and legend
Man, dropping tungsten rods from space is wild. What a sight that would be.
Im surprised I haven't seen that idea done in fiction yet.
@@mamaharumi GI Joe Retaliation, from 2013.
Ah; yes, the standard European solution to any issue, major or minor - "Let's make a huge amount of Law about it! Really crank down and tighten up our legal control."
Poor man's going to lose his mind once people start building independent habitats and space stations to exploit the available resources in the solar system 😂
Who makes the rules, and then who enforces them, and what do you mean with civilized world?
27 signed the same piece of paper with 194 "recognized" countries in the world. I'm making a wild guess that the United States is the one that put that piece of paper in front of people to sign. And history is shown how well the United States of America likes to uphold whatever its signs.
Is there any way to track it's cycle and directions , drive system, fuel and etc
Historically speaking, international law in general had always been a suggestion. Even if a president of some country signs a treaty, the next could always back out because he feels like it.
A very interesting topic. He’s right to point out how woefully behind we are on both on preventing future costs that may yet be unseeable and the costs we have already incurred some of which may be mounting into much larger consequences. Anyway, for somewhat inaccurate information on some of the potential situations these topics can bring up, consult the show “Space Force”. Please note that this is not a documentary and therefor may contain factual inaccuracies.
yea but thanks to Trump we have a Space force now. lol Dont know what it does, but we got it.
Thats actually exactly what this show is about, president keeps giving them stupid requests and they dont know what the fuck they‘re doing half the time
Well, at least it's no longer orbiting randomly and being a danger
Well. I am relieved to know Luxemburg signed the space treaty.
Noo not the galactic empire of Luxemburg
excellent video. great presentation.
Feel free to use a map that includes New Zealand next time, especially since they signed the Artemis accords you were talking about.
Not sure if it would make sense for any military satellites to orbit the moon, but there might be uses for ones that orbit the Earth-Moon barycenter (if such is possible). Unless somebody figures out what's going on with such a satellite (which may be purposely made difficult to observe in the first place), it might be a bit trickier to predict. And something like that could end up sending material towards the Moon.
The Earth -Moon barycenter is within the Earth. I think you meant Lagrange point L1. 😎
@@FlatEarthMath Still correct though. Another example would be the Apollo free return trajectories.
@@DrMackSplackem Good point! It could be what he meant originally, and I missed it. 🙂
Unless you think others want a moon base, and what the powerful want... they want for a reason.
so why is nobody wondering why the object survived the impact? it should be totally vaporised or in a million pieces, but yet it is intact and sitting in the middle of a DOUBLE crater, not one but it made two craters. It hit the surface of the moon with 5 kilometers per second!! do people even look at the real photos of the impact?
I really believe, with all my heart, that if what we have done and are still largely doing to this planet is not repaired or resolved and then consistently managed in a healthy, thriving state then we clearly are not ready for the responsibility of venturing into apace and onto other worlds. Not until we collectively grow a sense of personal pride and responsibility in keeping our planet well, healthy and life sustaining and not carry our current selfish, reckless ways to other worlds.
Yeah... That's not going to happen. I mean, you have a point regarding any planets that have life, but aside from that most planets will probably be completely disassembled and turned into usable materials.
Unfortunately, science is not trapped behind ethics. We aren't really able to properly manage nuclear weapons, but we have them anyway.
Mr. Astrum, have you seen 'Ad Astra' from 2019?
Thanks! This will certainly be interesting to watch unfold. Thank you for sharing your well formed ideas, your research, and most importantly your time!
I think there's a bigger question. What the heck was this booster possibly carrying, and to where was it heading? I mean for a spent booster to end up on the moon, I don't know just seems off to me.
The spear of longinus
You are onto something here. Given the enormity of Space and the low gravitational pull of Luna, how did this random item end up there?
6:55 - when it actually gets "on topic" to the title of the video.
Maybe the Lunar Lander had a self destruct with a two billion second countdown, but the clock ran fast because of outer space reasons.
Wouldn't be the first time that China lost track of a rocket and it caused collateral damage. From the Wikipedia page for "Intelsat 708": February 15, 1996 when the Long March 3B launch vehicle failed while being launched from the Xichang Satellite Launch Center in China. The launch vehicle veered off course immediately after liftoff and struck a nearby village, officially killing at least six people.
Can't forget more recent reentry incidents in 2020-2022 involving Chinese launch stages uncontrollably falling into the Indian Ocean, south Pacific, and Atlantic, fueling speculation that debris even fell on the ground and posed a real hazard to people. Their stage boosters have no means of control after release, meaning they couldn't be steered safety into the sea after they are ejected.
Absolutely reckless decision on their part to design their rockets that way.
It's China.
When they are involved, it's not so much "reckless" as "make it dangerously inferior on purpose by cutting corners".
Please stop this constant bagging of China/Russia. If you want to do body counts check out the number of people killed in the pursuit of 'democracy' and human rights by the U$A and West. As for uncontrolled reentries there is a long history of this on western rockets. In fact if you want to get a launch license all you need to show is the kill probability is low enough and that is NOT ZERO. If you look into the the recent Starship launch you'll find the flight termination system FAILED. The rocket could have headed off anywhere after the disastrous pad debacle and the FTS system would have effectively useless had it veered towards the crowds watching or the towns nearby. If you're worried about rockets/debris then look into the airline industry records to get a little perspective.
@@vinesauceobscurities The odds of those booster stages hitting anything is miniscule.
Most of the surface at those latitudes is water. Most of the land is either uninhibited or fields.
Let's put it like this: only one person in recoded history has ever been struck by a meteor. They weren't even killed.
And earth gets hit by about 17 a day (that reach the ground).
In conclusion, it China launched a rocket with an uncontrolled booster 17 times a day, for a century, they'd probably flatten someone.
They have currently launched a total of 4.
Everyone in the first few minutes of this video: "I bet it's China"
Militarization of space will more then likely and sadly, accelerate space exploration over the top
So what
@@whousa642 what??
@@Starius2 there is nothing wrong with that
@@whousa642 That's what I think as well. Let's get exploring guys. Chop chop
@@Julia-uh4li explore baby explore
And trash
Kessler Sydrome is no joke and could potentially send us back decades. The amount of infrastructure, military and civilian tech it would render useless is astronomical.
The U of A paint analysis is 🔥!
Can we appreciate just how mathematically difficult it would be to hit the Moon with a man-made object from Earth.
Exactly. Rockets have to be GUIDED to the Moon. They don't just "happen" to end up there.
It'd be super hard because...
The moon isn't a place you can go.
It's a light.
@@alreadybanned-pe6se yes, a light with mountains and craters. And can also be shaded out by the earth. 😮
. . So many difficulties and discrepancies in every aspect of the Apollo program -- beyond inconclusive notions of waving flags when moving the pole -- only one of which is necessary to render the entire program a theater for public consumption while elevated technologies and developments are kept from benefiting humanity . . and we are deluded with public spectacles, such as Apollo performing the identical maneuver of rendezvous in lunar orbit as takes place in near-Earth orbit -- without radar installations on multiple continents, mainframe processing . . let alone an inertial navigation system which the shuttle itself did not have -- all necessary data received through uplink from Houston for rendezvous in near-Earth orbit . . and all of which would be necessary to perform the complex orbital mechanics of rendezvous in lunar orbit. A simple computer aboard the LM that was the functional equivalent of a basic calculator provided none of this capability.
The moon a light? Ghr sun is the light. The moon reflects that light.
BTW..we had men on the moon. NASA had less computing power than we have today. Plus, on top of that--NASA utilized teams of people to perform the calculations by hand.
Thank you for addressing the human impediments to space exploration! Unlike other "science" channels which pretend there's nothing to worry about and that our future is certainly bright.
9:05 Astrum is missing the Czech republic which joined the Artemis accord 2 weeks ago.
Did anyone else notice that at ~1.49, Alex conveniently says _“While admittedly, I don’t have insider knowledge about the classified space programs of all the nations around the world…”_
That’s exactly what someone who *DOES* have insider knowledge about the classified space programs of all the nations around the world would say.
Putting a colony on the moon without being allowed to mine helium 3 and rare earth's there sounds like a unrentable invest.