Behind The Scenes At Labour Party Conference

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  • Keir Starmer won a whopping majority to become Labour leader on a platform of party unity, radical policies, integrity and electability. Has he stuck to his word? How divided is Labour - and how angry are its members at his perceived betrayals? Does Starmer have the confidence of his own members - and does he have an inspiring vision for the country?
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  • @OwenJonesTalks
    @OwenJonesTalks  2 ปีที่แล้ว +36

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    • @michaelcave6581
      @michaelcave6581 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Were there amy working class people at the conference, because you didn't interview any....

    • @peterjones596
      @peterjones596 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      There's something that the "Win at any cost" side of the party fail to see. Over the past 42 years the Right have made gains on oppressing the 99% via wages, Rights, the ruination of education and all mainly via the media.
      We've seen yet more of the country's publicly owned assets sold off to private profiteers that have given us worse service for more money, and the only way this can all be taken back is by radical Socialist policies. Being scared of what Murdoch, et al, will say is pandering to a cabal who's aims will never be even close to decent.
      In summary, Keith Llama is naive, and so are his flock.

    • @danielcollinson4456
      @danielcollinson4456 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I'm finding it hard to vote for Kier, but the tories have to be removed. Though gritted team i'll probably vote Labour again.

    • @peterjones596
      @peterjones596 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @D K Omg, you state that and then question my words... Duuuurrrrgh!

    • @peterjones596
      @peterjones596 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @D K They're all just beyond your knowledge set, Tory-Boy, that's why you're a Tory-Boy. X

  • @Luke-dh4ki
    @Luke-dh4ki 2 ปีที่แล้ว +49

    I don't think I've heard the word "do" so much in my life before this video.

  • @iquestionexistence8730
    @iquestionexistence8730 2 ปีที่แล้ว +41

    I mean Barry's not wrong, Starmer literally is doing the conservatives, he basically is one

    • @attackpatterndelta8949
      @attackpatterndelta8949 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Starmer understands that Britain (specifically England) is traditionally a right wing country. So for Labour to get into power they need to offer something to Tory voters. Starmer can be a leader for everyone, and I wish that the Labour Party and its members would recognise this.

    • @RO-wn1dg
      @RO-wn1dg 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@attackpatterndelta8949 I think people are more malleable than that. Electoral politics creates public opinion as much as it reflects it. The idea of British being “naturally” conservative not only ignores human agency, but also completely disregards the fact that opinion polling for the past few years has consistently showed it’s actually so called “left wing” policies that command majority support in the UK. It's interesting the Right often uses phrases and words like "unity" or "appealing to everyone" as synonyms for right-leaning policies.

  • @iggsolo
    @iggsolo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    At this point, the mental gymnastics Paul Mason is doing to defend his support for Starmer and to avoid admitting that he was taken by for a ride is just pure comedy gold.

  • @vulkanlifts3180
    @vulkanlifts3180 2 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    Andy Burnham should stand, Manchester is behind him. He doesn't waffle, he inspires through action.

    • @LondonWalkability
      @LondonWalkability 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      He needs to be an MP to run for leader, I agree with you tho

    • @Frserthegreenengine
      @Frserthegreenengine 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      He's popular among Northern voters and has been more critical of the government than Starmer has. Shame Labour didn't vote for him back in 2015.

  • @pgl0897
    @pgl0897 2 ปีที่แล้ว +57

    Wes Streeting is, I think, the smarmiest man to set foot in the House of Commons in my lifetime. And that really is saying something.
    Everything about him just screams quisling to me.

    • @kayzar293
      @kayzar293 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      The lad makes my skin crawl

    • @camdencobain1460
      @camdencobain1460 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Selfhating Gentile.

    • @BarryH90dz
      @BarryH90dz 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Fits right in Westminster

    • @blairrobert3438
      @blairrobert3438 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Weird that's the first time I've seen him and I thought he was quite charismatic.

  • @TadeuszCantwell
    @TadeuszCantwell 2 ปีที่แล้ว +48

    The Starmer era. Urg. Perish the thought he lasts that long.

  • @MarkJVSomers
    @MarkJVSomers 2 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    That Wes Streeting character, dear lord, is that a labour MP? If I didn't know I'd say he was a hard right tory.

    • @thefunkybeautiful
      @thefunkybeautiful 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      From rumours of what he said at some union meetings in the past, he is very much in that ilk - inc. the xenophobia.

    • @playcloudpluspc
      @playcloudpluspc 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's said that he will be the Labour right's candidate to replace Starmer.

    • @redemrys5342
      @redemrys5342 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It is reported that Wes Streeting recently recieved £20 000 from a Sainsbury's heiress, to fund his office. Lord Sainsbury has substantially funded the Tories.

    • @markandresen1
      @markandresen1 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      According to Aaron Bastani, he's being groomed to replace Starmer.

  • @OneRebel1
    @OneRebel1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    I’m shocked the feeling of our young people of feeling excluded, I didn’t think it was this widespread; it reminds me of classroom bullying. Nobody should be excluded. This certainly is NOT UNITY Barry Gardiner.

    • @End-Result
      @End-Result 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Blairites are bullies. That's all they know. They're incompetent Stalinists.

  • @TheMarnaiz
    @TheMarnaiz 2 ปีที่แล้ว +94

    I really like Clive Lewis and what he had to say.

    • @EhAmes94
      @EhAmes94 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Yeah. His whole thing is unity, but unlike Starmer, he actually means it.

    • @playcloudpluspc
      @playcloudpluspc 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@EhAmes94 and cooperation, including with other progressive parties.

    • @marktaylor6491
      @marktaylor6491 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Burnham and Lewis for the Labour leadership.

    • @dcpayne5264
      @dcpayne5264 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      He’s my MP and I really rate him!

  • @MrYorickJenkins
    @MrYorickJenkins 2 ปีที่แล้ว +69

    I have never empathised with Owen Jones before but I empathised with his look of bewilderment at Barry Gardiner's bizarre answer to "how is Keir Starmer doing?"

    • @Beingtanaka
      @Beingtanaka 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      He is "doing" the conservatives, didn't you hear him?

    • @MrYorickJenkins
      @MrYorickJenkins 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The question was HOW is he doing not WHAT is he doing. He evaded Jones' question.

    • @mickmerrifield6583
      @mickmerrifield6583 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@MrYorickJenkins Gardiner diplomacy

    • @warrenbond32
      @warrenbond32 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Me to buddy

    • @will1603
      @will1603 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I really thought he meant kier was planning on being a Conservative like he always has been but seems like that's not what he meany

  • @JasS19362
    @JasS19362 2 ปีที่แล้ว +80

    I don’t think I want to ‘do’ a Conservative, thanks, in any sense…

    • @rachelmatthews3070
      @rachelmatthews3070 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I'm with you... always a deal breaker for me...

    • @trojjer
      @trojjer 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Yeah, Barry's attempt at letting his true feelings slip, or a take on awkward self-deprecation? Odd.

    • @tonyburton419
      @tonyburton419 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Expect to lose....

    • @JasS19362
      @JasS19362 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@billjane5522 I think you've replied on the wrong comment...?

    • @rachelmatthews3070
      @rachelmatthews3070 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@billjane5522 last time I checked being on the right is nothing to do with with your sexual orientation/identity, language you speak or the colour of your skin. It does fortunately however make you a minority. Have a lovely evening.

  • @zinger2836
    @zinger2836 2 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    Big 'hiding in the fridge' energy from Wes Streeting

  • @Skylark_Jones
    @Skylark_Jones 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Energy bills going up; empty shelves, food shortages, food prices going up, travel restrictions & delays on public transport because of petrol queues; NI and Council tax increases which impact poorer people more; the benefit system more draconian than ever even for workers. *I am forced to use a foodbank* for the first time.
    Staff were recently given a *one-off* bonus "thanking us for all our hard work during the covid pandemic". What do you think the DWP did? Took it away. That's the thanks key workers get.
    All because we have a corrupt sleazy government in power that squanders public money giving it to their cronies and wealthy donor pals - *non-means tested*, unlike the rest of us - and some Labour politicians and spokespeople have to nerve to say Labour is doing well under Sir Stuffed Shirt in his stiff suit? I don't get it. For some strange inexplicable reason Starmer isn't really taking on the Tories. I just don't get it.

    • @GA-wq8xq
      @GA-wq8xq 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The fuel “shortage” is over and it is was caused by panic buying, food is not in short supply and the tax increase is going to the NHS. Labour supported extra money in the past.

    • @l0rdgreasy594
      @l0rdgreasy594 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      The reason karma ain’t taking on the conservatives is because labour had suffered one of the worst defeats in labour history, and from the looks of things its gojng to happen again

  • @tonyy452
    @tonyy452 2 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    Starmer thinks the enemy is the left, not the tories.

    • @tonyburton419
      @tonyburton419 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes, afraid so....isolate,--- and gain some power to do something.....

    • @End-Result
      @End-Result 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      He doesn't think anything. He's not there for that.

    • @fubar12345
      @fubar12345 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      And vice versa! Hence why the tories will be in power indefinitely.

  • @MrYorickJenkins
    @MrYorickJenkins 2 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    The change to the party rules should be of concern to everybody who does believe in democratic decision making. This is bigger than the Labour party. Keir Starman is taking his Labour party back to the old bureacracy which is entrenched in most countires. Very sad. And what about making membership attractive? It was not just Corbyn that attracted so many new members, it was the fact that the party offered so much participation to new members.

  • @ince55ant
    @ince55ant 2 ปีที่แล้ว +70

    inspiring conference. as in inspired me to ignore labour for next few years

    • @TheColossalBlanket
      @TheColossalBlanket 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Couldn't have put it better myself. I'm switching off from it all now. Wake me up when someone puts in their manifesto a cap on rents and the implementation of basic income.

    • @limbothytimothy
      @limbothytimothy 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TheColossalBlanket Rent control doesn't work. Land Value Tax is the best evidence based policy

    • @edwardbrady5843
      @edwardbrady5843 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah let's just keep the tories, great idea 💡

  • @Minisldr
    @Minisldr 2 ปีที่แล้ว +108

    Paul Mason practically veering into comedy with his analysis at this point.

    • @jonathanhansson804
      @jonathanhansson804 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Couple of years ago I got the impression that he was actually left wing, but ever since I've only ever heard him defend neoliberalism over and over

    • @Minisldr
      @Minisldr 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@xx-my5vh lol he still does, one of the reasons he's so comical!

    • @fullovstars9447
      @fullovstars9447 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      More flip flops than Brighton beach?

    • @slomas8863
      @slomas8863 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@jonathanhansson804 I think he's just sick of losing tut'Torys, either way the Greens are the forseeable.

    • @slomas8863
      @slomas8863 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@xx-my5vh He's never stopped privatley, he's clearly desperate for the Torys out.

  • @raggletaggle8827
    @raggletaggle8827 2 ปีที่แล้ว +44

    "What do you think Keir Starmer is doing to do?" "He's going to DO the Conservatives!" "What do you mean? Sounds a bit sexual" "No! No!" had me laughing

    • @raggletaggle8827
      @raggletaggle8827 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Wes Streeting has also been watching too many old american cop shows! "You're a trouble maker, Jones!" I was expecting him to call Owen a loose canon and to hand in his badge (or Labour membership)

  • @ianrwood21
    @ianrwood21 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    'It's hard to know what Labour stands for at the moment' You and me both, mate...

  • @glittermarsian5054
    @glittermarsian5054 2 ปีที่แล้ว +66

    Barry Gardiner sounds like he misses being on the front bench

    • @End-Result
      @End-Result 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      He sounds like he drank the entire conference supply of Kueef Kool Aid

    • @AnEnemy100
      @AnEnemy100 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      What was that tie about?

    • @tubbytown6545
      @tubbytown6545 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      He always struck me as unctuous.

  • @TC-wh8kb
    @TC-wh8kb 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Anti Black racism and Islamophobia appear to have dropped off the agenda entirely, or did I miss some major debates?

  • @bigbenji6
    @bigbenji6 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Disappointed by Barry, thought he'd have more substance.
    These politicians are shape shifters...

    • @kanedaio
      @kanedaio 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      he's holding his cards to his chest, that was obvious

    • @martycrow
      @martycrow 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Barry started with "do" as in imitate, then thought the better of it and changed it to "do" as in attack. Never trusted his weasel words.

  • @mikehogan6529
    @mikehogan6529 2 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    Very interesting but could do with less of Mason's excuse as to why he helped Starmer.

    • @redemrys5342
      @redemrys5342 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I thank Owen Jones for his work as a socialist and as a journalist. I will show solidarity with him! For me though, Labour is not 'a worker's party that campaigns with workers at their workplace and their communities. Unions and communties are making a proper workers party .

    • @redemrys5342
      @redemrys5342 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Paul Mason is a reactionary.

    • @WhoOneIs
      @WhoOneIs 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@redemrys5342 Yep. Spot on.

    • @WhoOneIs
      @WhoOneIs 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@redemrys5342 Again, right on. Socialism under capitalism is a misnomer.

  • @margaretmorgan3693
    @margaretmorgan3693 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Your tweets about Tony Blair are right. He’s a war criminal and kier Starmer is a poor tribute band to blair

  • @0olong
    @0olong 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Wow, a lot of people REALLY don't want to say 'yes, obviously he was dishonest' eh?

  • @CapsLock959
    @CapsLock959 2 ปีที่แล้ว +46

    At this point I almost wish McCluskey and the other big unions should just pull their funding and let Stammer flail. It's insane the working class are paying the expenses of this slug with a £900 haircut to cannibalise the party.

    • @stephenreynolds3079
      @stephenreynolds3079 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Union members can opt out of the political fund any time they like. It is certainly something I am considering.

    • @Dave-kj4vr
      @Dave-kj4vr 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      McCluskey isn't a union boss anymore

    • @pgl0897
      @pgl0897 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      It is mad that this didn’t happen years ago under Blair tbh.
      Take some key supportive Unions and their funding, the Socialist Campaign Group of around 30 MP’s, and some key figures in the new Left media. Make membership a tenner, and you’d have a quarter of a million members and £2.5m in the bank overnight. With a few deals done with the Greens and possibly the libdems and you’d get a foothold of 30 seats in the next election I reckon.

    • @CapsLock959
      @CapsLock959 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@pgl0897 I guess you could argue Blair actually won and was seen as the lesser of two evils. This clown has no chance of winning and seems to tacitly support the majority of this disaster of a government's decisions.

    • @redemrys5342
      @redemrys5342 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The new UNITE leader is Sharon Graham. The rank & file, shop stewards etc. trust Sharon. She gets things done.

  • @yellowpinko
    @yellowpinko 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    This leadership makes Britain first look measured and attractive.

  • @patcampton9799
    @patcampton9799 2 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    Nice to see Clive Lewis speaking for us on The left.

    • @playcloudpluspc
      @playcloudpluspc 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I've always liked Clive Lewis.

    • @attackpatterndelta8949
      @attackpatterndelta8949 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Clive Lewis referred to Starmer and his cabinet as a Blair tribute band.
      Don’t forget that Blair won 3 elections. Labour Party members seem to have forgotten that they can’t do anything unless they’re in power. It’s not ideal to try and appeal to Tory voters, but that’s what Labour needs to do if they want to get back into government.

    • @playcloudpluspc
      @playcloudpluspc 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@attackpatterndelta8949 Starmer's trying to do this, the Lib Dems are trying to do this too and they are both failing miserably to improve their fortunes (the Lib Dems have been attempting this for a very long time and it's been a disaster, they were punished rather than rewarded for the coalition with the Tories which is odd if all they need to do is attract Tory voters who one would think would be sympathetic to their role in the coalition). I would agree with you if there was a benefit shown in the polls but there just isn't. The thing is people don't want the status quo anymore, it's not the 90s or the early 2000s and the Tories realise that (although they are disingenuous in their efforts).
      With the huge effects of the climate emergency and rampant and continuously increasing inequality, particularly since the financial crash, the status quo no longer cuts it and Labour don't realise this. I am sceptical that a return to the politics of many years ago will work as it did then when the world has changed so much. This my criticism of many in Labour and of Starmer's approach. I think Biden by contrast has the right idea, he harnessed and included the left and recognises the need for radical change. Now it can be radical centrism but it needs to be radical.

  • @colinbrigham8253
    @colinbrigham8253 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Barry is whistling in the wind Starmer is very poor ,thanks Owen Len is right

  • @evettefinch4524
    @evettefinch4524 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Keir Starmer happy to charge £400 an hour when a solicitor but you health workers and key workers you be happy with £10.00.

  • @michaelcave6581
    @michaelcave6581 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    All the middle class and posh people think Starmer is awesome. Nuff said.

    • @michaelcave6581
      @michaelcave6581 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ok Yah! Y'know, papa says that our factory will be muuuuch better off under Starkers...

    • @playcloudpluspc
      @playcloudpluspc 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Well that's one way of ensuring that the vicious media attacks that Corbyn endured are staved off! Don't threaten rich and powerful people.

    • @ftr841
      @ftr841 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      if it means they vote for him then who cares. Many tories hated cameron/johnson etc but decided that if it meant people voted tory then they wouldnt care

    • @fubar12345
      @fubar12345 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      And yet leftists are almost entirely middle class kids. And the working class? They vote tory these days. So I don't know what point you're trying to make.

  • @chrisbow5106
    @chrisbow5106 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Great report Owen. Please remember there's plenty of us 40+ who feel the same. Keep up the great work

  • @deathmaybeyoursantaclaus
    @deathmaybeyoursantaclaus 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    As meme-worthy as that exchange with Gardiner was, would have liked if Owen had asked him if he still supports Modi.

  • @indefatigable8193
    @indefatigable8193 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Get a seat. Go for leadership. Don’t pull a Benn and just wait in the wings

  • @beerblues762
    @beerblues762 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    It breaks my heart that Owen is forced to take this view but he’s not a politician, so fair play and thank you for keeping us informed.

  • @jethrowest439
    @jethrowest439 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    I'm desperate for the Tories to be out but finding starmers leadership infuriating. I don't see how anyone can believe anything he says at this stage. Many socialists are feeling politically homeless at the moment.

    • @blackniall8509
      @blackniall8509 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      To many white giving opinions
      Apparently

  • @christianecoughlan7392
    @christianecoughlan7392 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The uk needs PR and I heard Labour said no. Shameful, disgusting!

  • @MrMyers758
    @MrMyers758 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    I interpreted to "Do the Conservatives" as to do what they do. "What are you going to be performing tonight?" "Tonight Matthew, I'm going to be doing; The Conservatives". Seems more accurate than his intended meaning.

    • @checkeredcheese
      @checkeredcheese 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      wait.. thats not what he was saying? thought he was going mask off

  • @barryking3714
    @barryking3714 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Cheers for posting mate.

  • @AliMacDonald1
    @AliMacDonald1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    How can he say Johnson isn’t a bad man. Words fail me.

    • @dawn5227
      @dawn5227 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I missed that bit, who said that?

    • @playcloudpluspc
      @playcloudpluspc 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@dawn5227 Starmer, but he did say he's a trickster.

    • @pejpm
      @pejpm 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think he was trying to paint him as more of a Trump like figure. I.e he doesn’t actually stand for anything. It’s all just PR and attention seeking.

    • @stephenlee4932
      @stephenlee4932 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Toonfight Fan what about the tosser whos replaced him ? Needs to be in a rest home

    • @patrickmonkman8151
      @patrickmonkman8151 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      If you call boris a bad man his supporters double down, call him un serious and most of his supports would agree. Howling at the moon about how the tories are evil gets you no-where

  • @andyjay7337
    @andyjay7337 2 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    Owen is looking a lot older these days.He looks at least 15.
    Before you know it he’ll be
    Shaving!

    • @Peter-ov6xh
      @Peter-ov6xh 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      He does look older. I wonder why! 👃🌨

  • @LuckOverSkill
    @LuckOverSkill 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Andy B's optimism is almost contagious. I just can't see it though with the current party.

    • @Busher50
      @Busher50 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      He's basically being as nice about the leadership as he can whilst being critical

  • @rileymckenzie6276
    @rileymckenzie6276 2 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    everything starmer says sounds like it was written by the prince of darkness

    • @OwenJonesTalks
      @OwenJonesTalks  2 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      it was certainly written by Peter Mandelson's proteges if that's what you mean!

    • @robertbell9935
      @robertbell9935 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@OwenJonesTalks Phil Collins, and a worse Phil Collins even than the drummer from Genesis.

    • @FW10826
      @FW10826 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      It was. His name is Peter mandelson

  • @danielcollinson4456
    @danielcollinson4456 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    "Britain is in a mess" and the tories have a 7 point lead, ffs!

    • @benlowe7089
      @benlowe7089 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      No realistic alternative though, as things stand

    • @danielcollinson4456
      @danielcollinson4456 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@benlowe7089 looks that way. Having said that, its likely i'll be voting Labour at the next GE. I always do

    • @stuartbeattie6162
      @stuartbeattie6162 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @4th Chairman You're right. Much better to believe in nothing.

  • @dwaynericketts882
    @dwaynericketts882 2 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    Paul Mason being as vapid as ever.

  • @pablohanc
    @pablohanc 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    There is no hope of getting another left candidate. If you want left policies, it isn't gonna happen from labour now.

    • @rp1455
      @rp1455 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Best thing to be hoped for imho is to scrap FPTP so that smaller parties can make real headway, obviously with a lot of serious dual power organising, unionising etc.

    • @pablohanc
      @pablohanc 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@rp1455 I think there's no hope of the LP supporting PR unfortunately.

    • @rp1455
      @rp1455 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@pablohanc haha very true

  • @Ourvee
    @Ourvee 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Starmer looks like Mads Mikkelsen drawn from memory

  • @johnhudson5414
    @johnhudson5414 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I just don't care anymore. Honest politics is impossible. Its like watching a load of ideologically occultised automatons spit out pre recorded voicemails

    • @junkscience6397
      @junkscience6397 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      But but but! They ALL had "Anti-Semitism Training"!!!

  • @edwardarno1969
    @edwardarno1969 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great video, I would love to see the outtakes, the bits not shown but filmed

  • @mattbush7578
    @mattbush7578 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Clive Lewis summed up the situation we’re currently in with the Labour Party brilliantly.
    The contrast between him and Wes Streeting is astonishing.

  • @mjc01
    @mjc01 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    11:16 Bless that naive boy. Starmer has proven to be a liar, a bully and a cheat.

  • @paulronalddoe4548
    @paulronalddoe4548 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    He doesn't want a mass membership party. It's over. Sad.

    • @tonyburton419
      @tonyburton419 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Mass membership achieved nothing in the end.

  • @frankshailes3205
    @frankshailes3205 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    😁The most hilarious TH-cam subtitle error I've seen for a long time - calling the "Thatcher Years" the "factory years" - as if!

  • @richardfraser7024
    @richardfraser7024 2 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    You look really strong and healthy Owen. Gym is paying off. Keep it up.

    • @OwenJonesTalks
      @OwenJonesTalks  2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      💪

    • @Peter-ov6xh
      @Peter-ov6xh 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Swift BMF And what in the video changed your mind? 😆

    • @muhammadomer7495
      @muhammadomer7495 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @Swift BMF stop being jealous. He looks younger than all of us combined

    • @th8257
      @th8257 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I thought he actually looked really gaunt. Lost too much weight too quickly and when that happens it shows on your face.

  • @theanticamper5859
    @theanticamper5859 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video Owen, thank you.

  • @59nobby59
    @59nobby59 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Used to like Barry Gardiner when he used to talk sense... Starmer isn't doing anything we have a tory government that is completely failing and where is Labour in the polls ... Behind the Tories.

  • @michie2510
    @michie2510 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Starmer is there for one thing and one thing only- to keep the establishment in power!

  • @markandresen1
    @markandresen1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Clive Lewis talks a lot of sense - again - but I see no courage and no imagination elsewhere. Despite the differences in the political system, it's just where the Democrats are in the US. Depressing.

  • @robbiepethicksrightear3352
    @robbiepethicksrightear3352 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great video!

  • @duncan_danger
    @duncan_danger 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Barry Gardiner made my skin crawl. Also, he's really the only person in the video who said nothing of value. Otherwise, it was a really interesting video.

    • @stanleybeckett7705
      @stanleybeckett7705 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I thought for a minute that he was going to "do" Owen!

  • @DanielleA2023
    @DanielleA2023 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    For a leader to create Unity you have to have an informed Vision that inspires people, a plan wrapped in robust policy that fortifies confidence and a DIVERSE smart, compassionate, engaged team to enable delivery of the Vision. The UK Labor party doesn't have a leader who is capable.

  • @patcampton9799
    @patcampton9799 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    A lot of very naive centrists at conference. They are going to be very disappointed. Mason is wrong, Starmer has been totally dishonest.

    • @playcloudpluspc
      @playcloudpluspc 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Let's hope it's a double bluff and he becomes radical if and when he becomes prime minister.

  • @philipquick7423
    @philipquick7423 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Fantastic reporting, Owen !!!! Really showed the conference as it is. That's exactly how I remembered it!!!

  • @wolfcamera1
    @wolfcamera1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Stanlow oil refinery has gone bust. They supply 15% of the on road fuel in Britain. Its all just about to get worse.

  • @GA-wq8xq
    @GA-wq8xq 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The woman at 3 minutes is delusional to say the conference is going well - what with resignations, scumgate, cervix questions etc.

  • @petermanuel5043
    @petermanuel5043 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Thanks for this. I appreciate the extra level of nuance that it adds. However I'm concerned about the all-round levels of trust and disenfranchisement that both main parties are sewing. We have a very different political climate and new generations to empower. Do you think they've got what it takes?

  • @secularscot5822
    @secularscot5822 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    *Even as a non-Labour voter (I support Scottish independence), solidarity with everyone currently on the left of the Labour Party. It must be a tough time but don't give up hope! Also really appreciate the content Owen Jones makes, such as this behind-the-scenes video*

  • @artbreaker937
    @artbreaker937 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    These types of people don’t exist outside of the Labour Party, that’s the problem

  • @niall5
    @niall5 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Wes streeting seems like decent craic. Hes now my 2nd favourite labour right ghoul after Gapes

    • @redemrys5342
      @redemrys5342 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Mike Gapes? Spot on.

  • @johndavebobtim5049
    @johndavebobtim5049 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    less goooooooooo I love this series

  • @waynegilbert9504
    @waynegilbert9504 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great to see Labour guaranteeing themselves long period of oblivion.

  • @captaincolumbus5946
    @captaincolumbus5946 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    🚣🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 Not a political party in our country is fit for purpose. Being attacked by Starmer is an insult to the very word attack. All parties are right and left wing which is a contradiction and makes us closer to a one party state. Have a direction and let's have smaller parties. Let's have secret parliamentary ballots. Let's make politicians a lot more vulnerable. Elect the Lord's. We must change this cespit for something fit for purpose. Peace and love everyone Rick🇬🇧 🌈❤

  • @RobertJones-wq4mq
    @RobertJones-wq4mq 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Wes looks like he's heading for the VIP lounge...

  • @currentcommentor8745
    @currentcommentor8745 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Owen looking nice and lean.

  • @jemimat-h9619
    @jemimat-h9619 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The first question had me cracking up 😆😆😆

  • @kingcheesemus6307
    @kingcheesemus6307 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Brilliant to see my totally wonderful local MP Olivia Blake!

  • @MahlerHolic1860
    @MahlerHolic1860 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Starmer is a chancer. Under him I WILL NOT VOTE LABOUR.

  • @andsoistopped
    @andsoistopped 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Unison. What gives?

  • @sososoprano1
    @sososoprano1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks very much Wes Streeting. I’m supposed to be taking care of my blood pressure. It’s just shot through the roof! What a liar! And of course Blair should be tried for war crimes.

  • @avenged42
    @avenged42 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I guess if your male and pale Labour doesn't want your vote il be sure to spread the word 👏

  • @amandaidange4981
    @amandaidange4981 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    that first man sounded insane.

  • @arsenalrocka16
    @arsenalrocka16 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    james mcash needs to stand as an MP

  • @theaveragemoe
    @theaveragemoe 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Why dont the right wingers just be honest and join the tories

  • @John_N_Quay_Harbour
    @John_N_Quay_Harbour 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice one James Main

  • @WD_i_am_LordeYAYAYA
    @WD_i_am_LordeYAYAYA 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Wow, that's disappointing from Barry.

  • @DanielleA2023
    @DanielleA2023 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    OCTOBER 2021 just found you and almost immediately subscribed

  • @hintonus
    @hintonus 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Loved the interaction with Wes Streeting haha!

    • @LonDanDoc
      @LonDanDoc 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      They actually have chemistry I was kinda shocked

    • @ThoughtswithFelix
      @ThoughtswithFelix 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@LonDanDoc that would be some angry sex haha

    • @Peter-ov6xh
      @Peter-ov6xh 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ThoughtswithFelix "Would be"? - I wouldn't be so sure that it hasn't already happened.

  • @robclarke6545
    @robclarke6545 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Labour has a duty to to provide an effective opposition

  • @joshhjrocks
    @joshhjrocks 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Nice to see Bernie Sanders walking down the stairs at the end of the video

  • @theLukedishwasher
    @theLukedishwasher 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Starmer is surrounded by YES people, including the media.
    Well, how about NO. He is the Tory’s biggest success story.

  • @morganseward7232
    @morganseward7232 ปีที่แล้ว

    Will you be at Liverpool for the next conference? I would like to speak with you

  • @CatherineLove
    @CatherineLove 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wow, that was a bit weird Barry Gardener when Starmer is more in Unity with the Tories.

  • @MostlyLoveOfMusic
    @MostlyLoveOfMusic 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Owen Jones is my favourite teenage 30-something year-old

  • @johnrider5701
    @johnrider5701 ปีที่แล้ว

    I haven't got a clue what labour stands for under Starmer ,

  • @Lennon6412
    @Lennon6412 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    That Wes bit was pretty funny

  • @warrenbond32
    @warrenbond32 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent podcasts of the two party conferences Owen particularly the one's With Wes Streeting and the toady Michael John Travolta Gove, 👍😀👌👏

  • @calumwalker992
    @calumwalker992 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Is Barry Gardiner OK? He came across very strangely here.

    • @DrRichardScott
      @DrRichardScott 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      cocaine by the look of it

    • @Peter-ov6xh
      @Peter-ov6xh 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      He always comes across as a bit odd, to put it mildly.

  • @PokeParadox
    @PokeParadox 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Lol Barry.... "We are going to DO the Conservatives!" I knew what he meant but still! LMAO

  • @Blazeproudman
    @Blazeproudman 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have always voted labour n will never vote Tory