Dude, what you're doing is amazing, and if someone thinks otherwise they've got their heads up their flanks. Don't let the naysayer's get you down. As to your pilot's skills, don't sweat it. You get done what needs to be done done. Not everyone's a Top Gun candidate. It's a helluva lot more than I could manage.
you are correct, this is the first time i've seen a fixed-wing aircraft with no ailerons, elevators, or rudder. usually it has at least ailerons and elevators, or combine them into elevons. having hte only "control surface" being in the exhaust path is unheard of for a fully functional aircraft. so, congratz on that success!
I appreciate the clarification. I was skeptical of "no control surfaces" until your explanation about natural air flow. Makes sense that you lose control without throttle. looks so cool man.
Awesome! Pay no attention to the naysayers, man. The very fact that the craft becomes uncontrollable with zero thrust, says all that needs to be said about the flight characteristics of this model. I think with some onboard electronics, an aileron roll could be possible, as individual turbine control would be required. Well done.
Food for thought - Add a servo in the nose to operate a retractable nose ski, hinged at the front, to keep the nose up/off the grass when landing. Great job 🙂
Awesome design and fantastic flights . A suggestion how about setting throttle at plus 30% , so no zero and use a kill switch to land ?. Stops accidental compleat shutdown in the air .
@@mrbmp09 - How? If the ski is hinged/attached at the nose of the plane, pushing down, at the rear of the ski, to raise the nose off the ground - how can it get caught in the grass? No lip on the front of the ski to catch anything.
I was just watching the video on how the NASA engineers recommunicated with the Voyager 1 after 47 years, your ability to make adaptions to correct your plane reminded me of that. Great job!
Beautiful plane, great pilot! It just took 120 years to think out of the box...thank you. I will tell Cyrus about you. Keep the good work going and enjoy! PS- keep your last secret secret. You got something here.
Would love to see it with two vertical stabs at about a 20-30 degree angle pointing inward out where you have the two "rails???" instead of the one tail in the middle. That would keep with the stealth look of the NGAD. I think with the two of them, you could keep them really short. (Just guessing on that).
Hi Very impressed having watched your last 3 vids on this And I agree it's thrust vectoring because those surfaces are only in the exhaust air stream and are changing the angle of the exhaust thrust = thrust vectoring
[Get you a nylon tarp or old "slip n slide", to have a smoother landing surface, and lessen damage done during tests/ just a suggestion...] Fascinating work,...
Who cares what anyone else says. That thing is awesome bro. If they have anything other then constructive applications then heck with them. I think it's great and let them make there own based on there vision. You did it based on yours and it's perfect man.
Take a 1/16" Dia. piano wire about 3" long, slight curve rearward and mount it to the front for a skid. Keep the nose from digging in the ground on landing. Great Job my friend! I used to build flying planes when I was in my teens. Things are a lot different now. I'm 72 years old now.
I’ve never gotten into model airplanes but think it’s an awesome hobby . I’m 63 ,at an old man lol , and I have to say I’m super impressed with your build and how it flies . IMO I do t see how that’s considered anything but thrust vectoring . Great job bruh
Most people can not understand the difference. Those are all the ones who claimed the plane has control surfaces. Do not listen to them. They believe they know what the realy do not know, and think they have great opinons, but it is only hot air. Your achievement is amazing.
Outstanding on all levels. I had/flew a couple of gas planes as a kid and have always enjoyed the vids of model RC planes over the years but I've never been so inspired to build one myself!
Incredible! What an awesome flyer. I sure would like to more about the model. I'm not in the "business" any more (too old) but still have a keen interest after a lifetime of flying models.
I did worked in aeronautical aviation for 35 years ! You should be proud of you and me I am ! Aerospace guy like you that can make advance the aerospace thrive . Just by doing what you have reduced to the minimum the amount of controled sufaced that in aerospace is a must that reduce the amount of failure.
Kyle I agree with your comments starting off your video. I am a machinist and to date a lousy pilot (on my 3rd Delta Wing) but I love printing as I used to have Machinist business and now I have a bunch of printers replacing CNC equipment and do all kinds of projects and designs. Thrust vectoring all the way no control surfaces I can clearly see that. I'm going to have to figure out what to do with these planes I'm printing as a few more purchases of your stuff is coming along with some more Eclipson planes. You're planes are simple, very well designed, fun to build. Keep them coming, really enjoy watching and building.
Hey man. I've been hooked on your videos for a few days. There is something out there that needs to be developed for a stronger and light airframe. It's called "Hemp Plastic", and it's 10x stronger than steel. Ford had the formula back in '37 when they were developing their "Hemp Car". Keep doing what you're doing! I love it ❤
Really enjoyed how awesome everything at this point with the design and results came out. Keep the great work. Will be great to see the design of landing gears.
Hi there, I know very little about ‘thrust vectoring’ or RC planes but the way you have approached this along with your enthusiasm and problem solving is exemplary. All those that are critical and questioning are of little importance and you are obviously on to someth8ng. Well done, R.
Looking forward to seeing loops. It would be interesting to see this design upscale and jet powered. That would be sooo awesome. It would be interesting to see the design and build process.
Truly amazing what you have accomplished, such a joy too see this prototype fly with such accuracy and control. Thank you for your dedication and persistence.
The stability of your model is blowing me away..... I have to digest this a bit before i can even make an intelligent comment..... The stability!!!! Nice work!
Awesome job, BF ~ btw ~ the toilet bowl approach (circle over the landing area/approach end of runway) is actually called the "overhead approach" ~ looking forward to more vids. PS ~ send this beast to Ukraine ✌😉
awesome vid again and again...correct... thrust vectors... : Control surfaces are aerodynamic devices on an aircraft’s wings, tail, or fuselage that manipulate the AIRFLOW around the aircraft to control attitude and direction....thrust vectors manipulate the direction of the THRUST from the engine/motor.. thats all no biggie...
That shape is just sweet. On RC planes these days, it seems like you throw an electric engine on some foam, and everything flies. However, yours seems to fly as good as it looks so I want one now.
Please don't stop with this Project. Truly an amazing design. Yes... they are Thrust Vectoring surfaces. The engines DO NOT move. People should learn the terminology and nomenclature.
I totally agree control surfaces that only affect motor thrust is thrust-vectoring, and not traditional ailerons that change aircraft attitude by getting control force from the airstream over the wings.
wove awesome back to back videos ! you have so much of enthusiasm and passion for it that you didn't wast any time but immediately build the version two. thank you for sharing this ! God bless . take care
Fascinating!!!! Fase 2- could you remove the ailerons(?) at the exhaust,then extend the exhaust surface, superiorly and inferiorly, on both engines nozzles, and having these two surfaces move in one axis on fase 2 and move on two axis on fase-3? You could create a cleaner laminar flow and possibly better control (?). Two control surfaces on each nozzle may change flight characteristics and potential better control(?).
That was a very very impressive looking first landing, the plane transitioning very smoothly to high alpha/aerodynamic brake mode with no roll instability. I think you must have nailed the c of g position. You should be tying up manufacturing rights and getting it kitted, maybe build a scaled up prototype as old geezers like me prefer that for visibility and also better handling. Gyro stabilisation would still be useful especially for damping unwanted roll in turbulent air. A kit could include (a plan for) a simple launching ramp/catapult, which would add a fun option. Manufacturers should like the simplicity and lack of moving parts. Maybe lights might help pilot orientation in poor light conditions. Well done 👍👍 Edit: Further Thoughts. If edf power fails, what's Plan B? Maybe a design with your elevon extension idea (suitably sized) is worth considering. Won't save it from a flat spin though. Or a ballistic parachute could be a real fun idea. Regarding practicing landings, you shouldn't have to be toilet bowling, moving smoothly to high alpha should be enough (its what you did on your first and excellent landing). You could practice that at height to see how the plane can be moved into (and out of) high alpha. Then start using that for landing trials (remembering that ground effect on thrust will start coming in to play). At some point, you've got to roll this thing, and maybe even try a large loop (I'm guessing flipping it round a tight loop might be easy, but big loops and cuban eights would look great if the plane can do them)
Great, and i was almost finished with my NGAD made out of Balsawood and powered by a 12 inch rubber band, show off! But I have to admit, you made one hell of a model, great job.
I want to build a tiny personal jet that will have about 300 hp and be STOL which will have vectored multiport thrust that will weigh less than 1200 pounds dry. My plan will be to make mine out of a lot of carbon fiber and a little bit of extruded magnesium, other than the hot parts of the motor. This just gives me more confidence. So glad I found your channel!
I've never been directly involved in RC flight, haven't built a model in over four decades, but I'm just so involved and excited by this; it's amazing watching you and feeling / sharing your enthusiasm... BTW, couldn't you design the nose as a 'break-off' part and snap in a new one? 🙃
Well done Bro, just DO NOT GIVE UP, keep plugging away, keep playing with your approach landing speeds at different % levels until you find that sweet spot. One thing i have seen down the years, with real Aircraft is sometimes the Aircraft looks Fabulous, but in some scenarios depending on the build of the Aircraft, it sometimes becomes unstable, and so the Guys in the R&D section of the Aircraft manufacturer came up with adding a Bullet shaped probe to the top leading edge of the TailPlane, and in most cases cured the instability to the point of it being a real game changer, the Aircraft became a Joy to Fly. IT`s just a thought, you may like the idea, you may not, but, it may well be worth a shot. Good Luck, Can`t wait for the next Episode. The Blackburn Buccaneer Aircraft will show you what i mean if you look it up ok, Regards . .. Chris.
One thing to test more is when you increase thrust does it go up, stable or down, to adjust shapes. With overpower the nose should go very slightly up.
Are you related to Elon Musk? LOL. This is a great innovation in the aviation industry. You will start a new revolution in aviation. Great job, I look forward to seeing more from you. 👍
That forward fuselage section looks pretty much like the Skunk Works SR71 Black Bird, yes that's a lifting body. Have thought about pushing the fans forward like half to three quarters of an inch. Another thing counter rotation fans,that would help with the counter rotation ( thrust of fans).
Dude, what you're doing is amazing, and if someone thinks otherwise they've got their heads up their flanks. Don't let the naysayer's get you down. As to your pilot's skills, don't sweat it. You get done what needs to be done done. Not everyone's a Top Gun candidate. It's a helluva lot more than I could manage.
@@arielfetters5662 thank you 🙏
you are correct, this is the first time i've seen a fixed-wing aircraft with no ailerons, elevators, or rudder. usually it has at least ailerons and elevators, or combine them into elevons. having hte only "control surface" being in the exhaust path is unheard of for a fully functional aircraft. so, congratz on that success!
This thing and its builder are pretty remarkable in my opinion👍😎
I know nothing about aeronautical design but I recognize how amazing this is.
I appreciate the clarification. I was skeptical of "no control surfaces" until your explanation about natural air flow. Makes sense that you lose control without throttle. looks so cool man.
Awesome! Pay no attention to the naysayers, man. The very fact that the craft becomes uncontrollable with zero thrust, says all that needs to be said about the flight characteristics of this model. I think with some onboard electronics, an aileron roll could be possible, as individual turbine control would be required. Well done.
This is one of the coolest designs I’ve seen in a long time
Food for thought - Add a servo in the nose to operate a retractable nose ski, hinged at the front, to keep the nose up/off the grass when landing. Great job 🙂
Awesome design and fantastic flights . A suggestion how about setting throttle at plus 30% , so no zero and use a kill switch to land ?. Stops accidental compleat shutdown in the air .
Conn653,
Then the ski will get caught in the grass just like the nose did.
concord style?
@@mrbmp09 - How? If the ski is hinged/attached at the nose of the plane, pushing down, at the rear of the ski, to raise the nose off the ground - how can it get caught in the grass? No lip on the front of the ski to catch anything.
Keep up with this research, You are on to somthing....
I was just watching the video on how the NASA engineers recommunicated with the Voyager 1 after 47 years, your ability to make adaptions to correct your plane reminded me of that. Great job!
So friggin' cool. No idea how this got in my recommended videos section, but I appreciate it! :)
The haters can thrust vector themselves back onto their own control surfaces! Great job!
You know what made the Wright Brothers so cool? They did what you're doing now. Experimenting.
Beautiful plane, great pilot! It just took 120 years to think out of the box...thank you. I will tell Cyrus about you. Keep the good work going and enjoy! PS- keep your last secret secret. You got something here.
Would love to see it with two vertical stabs at about a 20-30 degree angle pointing inward out where you have the two "rails???" instead of the one tail in the middle. That would keep with the stealth look of the NGAD. I think with the two of them, you could keep them really short. (Just guessing on that).
I am an ex CAF air-engine tech, and that is a thrust-vectored A/C.
Also CAF guy here - this comment made my day... 🎉😂🎉😂🎉😂🎉😂
She is a Beauty!! Well done!
Is this a public SKUNKWORKS channel. I bet the Chinese are really liking this video
@@GeorgeWeiss-s8p 🤣
Hi Very impressed having watched your last 3 vids on this
And I agree it's thrust vectoring because those surfaces are only in the exhaust air stream and are changing the angle of the exhaust thrust = thrust vectoring
[Get you a nylon tarp or old "slip n slide", to have a smoother landing surface, and lessen damage done during tests/ just a suggestion...] Fascinating work,...
It needs a little bomb bay door that drops some little Hellfire bombs.
And get one motor turning counter clockwise to offset the torque.
GREAT JOB !
I did mech and aero in college, and the more I think about it, the more amazing it becomes. Congrats!
Who cares what anyone else says. That thing is awesome bro. If they have anything other then constructive applications then heck with them. I think it's great and let them make there own based on there vision. You did it based on yours and it's perfect man.
Take a 1/16" Dia. piano wire about 3" long, slight curve rearward and mount it to the front for a skid. Keep the nose from digging in the ground on landing. Great Job my friend! I used to build flying planes when I was in my teens. Things are a lot different now. I'm 72 years old now.
I’ve never gotten into model airplanes but think it’s an awesome hobby . I’m 63 ,at an old man lol , and I have to say I’m super impressed with your build and how it flies . IMO I do t see how that’s considered anything but thrust vectoring . Great job bruh
Most people can not understand the difference. Those are all the ones who claimed the plane has control surfaces. Do not listen to them. They believe they know what the realy do not know, and think they have great opinons, but it is only hot air. Your achievement is amazing.
Once again, an absolutely fantastic design and flight test set. Thanks for keeping us up to date!!!
Outstanding on all levels. I had/flew a couple of gas planes as a kid and have always enjoyed the vids of model RC planes over the years but I've never been so inspired to build one myself!
Smoking cool brother! Job well done. Im subscribed, and cant wat to see your other planes!
Incredible! What an awesome flyer. I sure would like to more about the model. I'm not in the "business" any more (too old) but still have a keen interest after a lifetime of flying models.
I did worked in aeronautical aviation for 35 years !
You should be proud of you and me I am !
Aerospace guy like you that can make advance the aerospace thrive .
Just by doing what you have reduced to the minimum the amount of controled sufaced that in aerospace is a must that reduce the amount of failure.
Kyle I agree with your comments starting off your video. I am a machinist and to date a lousy pilot (on my 3rd Delta Wing) but I love printing as I used to have Machinist business and now I have a bunch of printers replacing CNC equipment and do all kinds of projects and designs. Thrust vectoring all the way no control surfaces I can clearly see that. I'm going to have to figure out what to do with these planes I'm printing as a few more purchases of your stuff is coming along with some more Eclipson planes. You're planes are simple, very well designed, fun to build. Keep them coming, really enjoy watching and building.
@@Keith-um1pj thank you 🙏 😄
It's always fun to fly but here, you are creating a brand new concept, and doing the flight developpement , it's one step beyond just flying, ,
Hey man. I've been hooked on your videos for a few days. There is something out there that needs to be developed for a stronger and light airframe. It's called "Hemp Plastic", and it's 10x stronger than steel. Ford had the formula back in '37 when they were developing their "Hemp Car". Keep doing what you're doing! I love it ❤
Really enjoyed how awesome everything at this point with the design and results came out. Keep the great work. Will be great to see the design of landing gears.
Hi there, I know very little about ‘thrust vectoring’ or RC planes but the way you have approached this along with your enthusiasm and problem solving is exemplary. All those that are critical and questioning are of little importance and you are obviously on to someth8ng. Well done, R.
This is so much fricken fun! How can you not love this stuff?!!
Looking forward to seeing loops. It would be interesting to see this design upscale and jet powered. That would be sooo awesome.
It would be interesting to see the design and build process.
Truly amazing what you have accomplished, such a joy too see this prototype fly with such accuracy and control. Thank you for your dedication and persistence.
The stability of your model is blowing me away..... I have to digest this a bit before i can even make an intelligent comment.....
The stability!!!!
Nice work!
Awesome job, BF ~ btw ~ the toilet bowl approach (circle over the landing area/approach end of runway) is actually called the "overhead approach" ~ looking forward to more vids. PS ~ send this beast to Ukraine ✌😉
I love the sound it makes as it passes right in front of you.
awesome vid again and again...correct... thrust vectors... : Control surfaces are aerodynamic devices on an aircraft’s wings, tail, or fuselage that manipulate the AIRFLOW around the aircraft to control attitude and direction....thrust vectors manipulate the direction of the THRUST from the engine/motor.. thats all no biggie...
This is absolutely incredible.
It even sounds good ☺
I'm impressed. Thank you. Yes, Thrust vectoring is NOT Traditional, stll kinda new. Thanks for the full speed fly by AND the Roll. So cool.
Let the h8rs h8. I think what you have created is AWESOME!💪
That shape is just sweet. On RC planes these days, it seems like you throw an electric engine on some foam, and everything flies. However, yours seems to fly as good as it looks so I want one now.
Please don't stop with this Project. Truly an amazing design.
Yes... they are Thrust Vectoring surfaces. The engines DO NOT move. People should learn the terminology and nomenclature.
Just wanted to say I'm new here and couldn't be happier with the job your doing👍✝️God bless
Ignore the haters. What you have done is freaking amazing.
I seriously dig this project. Hopefully, you release it before Bangers knocks it off. Outstanding job!
Truly impressive.
I wonder how many people from the Russian and Chinese airforce (aircraft development) are going to be joining this channel.
Amazing job man. You really killed it
It sounds so cool going by.
I totally agree control surfaces that only affect motor thrust is thrust-vectoring, and not traditional ailerons that change aircraft attitude by getting control force from the airstream over the wings.
wove awesome back to back videos ! you have so much of enthusiasm and passion for it that you didn't wast any time but immediately build the version two. thank you for sharing this ! God bless . take care
Enjoying these vids while I can. When they are taken down, I know you have received a big bag from Northrop Grumman. Wish you the best.
Busted nose and it's flying like a dream.
Great job. Time to start a business building these things.
Fascinating!!!!
Fase 2- could you remove the ailerons(?) at the exhaust,then extend the exhaust surface, superiorly and inferiorly, on both engines nozzles, and having these two surfaces move in one axis on fase 2 and move on two axis on fase-3? You could create a cleaner laminar flow and possibly better control (?). Two control surfaces on each nozzle may change flight characteristics and potential better control(?).
Way To Advance the Hobby! Great job!!
This is awesome. Well done.
It looks sooooooooooo awesome. What a shape and design.
That was a very very impressive looking first landing, the plane transitioning very smoothly to high alpha/aerodynamic brake mode with no roll instability. I think you must have nailed the c of g position. You should be tying up manufacturing rights and getting it kitted, maybe build a scaled up prototype as old geezers like me prefer that for visibility and also better handling. Gyro stabilisation would still be useful especially for damping unwanted roll in turbulent air. A kit could include (a plan for) a simple launching ramp/catapult, which would add a fun option. Manufacturers should like the simplicity and lack of moving parts. Maybe lights might help pilot orientation in poor light conditions. Well done 👍👍
Edit: Further Thoughts. If edf power fails, what's Plan B? Maybe a design with your elevon extension idea (suitably sized) is worth considering. Won't save it from a flat spin though. Or a ballistic parachute could be a real fun idea. Regarding practicing landings, you shouldn't have to be toilet bowling, moving smoothly to high alpha should be enough (its what you did on your first and excellent landing). You could practice that at height to see how the plane can be moved into (and out of) high alpha. Then start using that for landing trials (remembering that ground effect on thrust will start coming in to play). At some point, you've got to roll this thing, and maybe even try a large loop (I'm guessing flipping it round a tight loop might be easy, but big loops and cuban eights would look great if the plane can do them)
Impressed and love it. Great stuff! Good flying, all the best from the UK. 😊👍
Pilot it like a hovercraft 100% bestnway to explain
Great, and i was almost finished with my NGAD made out of Balsawood and powered by a 12 inch rubber band, show off! But I have to admit, you made one hell of a model, great job.
I want to build a tiny personal jet that will have about 300 hp and be STOL which will have vectored multiport thrust that will weigh less than 1200 pounds dry.
My plan will be to make mine out of a lot of carbon fiber and a little bit of extruded magnesium, other than the hot parts of the motor.
This just gives me more confidence.
So glad I found your channel!
Great Video. Good work young man. You are inspiring with your enthusiasm and dedication.
Great job I'm impressed with your designs. Don't let people get you down, I can hear it in your voice.
Fantastic design Good Sir !
Much better! Forward CG is always better. We'll done ✔️ 😁💪
Among all other things about your creation, the FIRST landing was GORGEOUS, Brother! 😊
New to you brought me here, and you have me addicted. Great Video
Good video, that is an Utterly Fantastic Object.
Inspiration on so many levels and things 👍
I've never been directly involved in RC flight, haven't built a model in over four decades, but I'm just so involved and excited by this; it's amazing watching you and feeling / sharing your enthusiasm...
BTW, couldn't you design the nose as a 'break-off' part and snap in a new one? 🙃
Fascinating that the thrust vectoring induces just the right amount of yaw without any rudder!
is that not just bank and yank you don't need a rudder to turn
@@crog9750 so smoothly too!
This is regard to my comment on your first post. I see you did bring the tail of the fuselage to a point. My bad. Again, this is awesome.
It's funny that even you call them control surfaces... @11:00 🤷 lol! Anyway awesome plane and design 👍🏼
Amazing work dude. Iteration, iteration, iteration. Keep it up and keep us inspired.🙏
Really cool idea. With true thrust vectoring in a full-size craft.... interesting proposal.
Paint it black plzzzzz
Proper stealth coatings are not black but more a deep charcoal grey
Paint it glow in the dark
A great design. I congratulate on you on your skill ingenuity.
Amazing job, congratulations!🎉
Well done Bro, just DO NOT GIVE UP, keep plugging away, keep playing with your approach landing speeds at different % levels until you find that sweet spot.
One thing i have seen down the years, with real Aircraft is sometimes the Aircraft looks Fabulous, but in some scenarios depending on the build of the Aircraft, it sometimes becomes unstable, and so the Guys in the R&D section of the Aircraft manufacturer came up with adding a Bullet shaped probe to the top leading edge of the TailPlane, and in most cases cured the instability to the point of it being a real game changer, the Aircraft became a Joy to Fly. IT`s just a thought, you may like the idea, you may not, but, it may well be worth a shot. Good Luck, Can`t wait for the next Episode. The Blackburn Buccaneer Aircraft will show you what i mean if you look it up ok, Regards . .. Chris.
your genius I love it. Front edge slats and gear you've got a mean little design, givem hell
More super work! Inspires me to get out in my workshop!
One thing to test more is when you increase thrust does it go up, stable or down, to adjust shapes. With overpower the nose should go very slightly up.
Are you related to Elon Musk? LOL. This is a great innovation in the aviation industry. You will start a new revolution in aviation. Great job, I look forward to seeing more from you. 👍
Really cool watching you refine this design.
I’m a believer. Probably a little fast for me. Great work!
It's pretty wild how it flies on just the thrusters being vectored that's cool😊
You're screwed if you lose power though.
It even sounds really cool
That forward fuselage section looks pretty much like the Skunk Works SR71 Black Bird, yes that's a lifting body. Have thought about pushing the fans forward like half to three quarters of an inch. Another thing counter rotation fans,that would help with the counter rotation ( thrust of fans).
Skunk works drew the outline you proved the concept
Congratulations! Excellent work.
Thats Cool. Great Design, You Did your Home Work.
It’s a beauty!