Is A Backhoe Worth It When Buying A Tractor??
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- Considering James has a decent amount of hours on this bad boy, here are the Pro's & Con's of the Backhoe. At the end of the day, we would argue that it is worth the cost! We've accomplished many projects & jobs with it and have many more to come!
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I have 215 acres in central Florida. I had a backhoe on my 3 series John Deere for years and I loved it.
Last year I was finally able to purchase a Bobcat e35 mini excavator. After using the excavator side by side with the tractor backhoe, you really start to see the pros and cons.
The tractor backhoe loses to the mini excavator in most every category except price and ground speed. But that is too be expected. My mini excavator is a $50,000 4-ton dedicated digging machine (the angle dozer blade kicks ass as well though) and my backhoe is a 9k add on to a tractor.
Look, at the end of the day, do backhoes suck compared to a excavator? Yes. Do backhoes suck in general? No.
If you need to dig, rip, or high load once a month or more, renting an excavator is not really a wise option. If you can’t afford a mini excavator, then yes, go for a backhoe (especially if you have a larger tractor).
I use my b2601 Kubota with FEL with teeth on bucket and backho for my business. I pour concrete and digging footers and grade out an area for what I’m pouring. I love my machine. It’s like having 2 machines at once, because I can move dirt like a bobcat would and dig like a backho would. Slower? Yes. But it gets the job done, and honestly wouldn’t trade it for anything.
Just bought a B2601 because of the backhoe. I liked it because of the size. I can make a small dolly carrier for it when I am not using it. I preferred the B2650 size tractor but didn't like the backhoe as much. Nice video. Thanks for commenting on pros and CONS.
wkualum thank you!
Having a back hoe is like having 4 wheel drive on your everyday driver truck. You may not use often, but when you need it, your glad you have it.
My thought is, if your going to buy a tractor, you might as well get a backhoe attachment.
Lord knows if your septic system needs to be serviced, fixed, or replaced, it will pay for itself in one use.
Exactly!!
I agree. It's slower and a pain to constantly reposition, but I've saved a lot of time and $ with having it on mine. Perfect world id have it and a mini ex.
Or replace your sewer line.. same issue as fixing a septic.
I just got TYM 394 with loader, grapple, and backhoe. It is 3 days old and has 19 hours on it. Great tool to have!
Congrats!!!
On the edge of getting one of these for our 2601. Thanks for the great honest input.
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I bought a compact kioti cs2510. It had 160 hours on and 2019 with tiller and brushhog and box blade. It's little and glade it has a backhoe.
Great video. When you start really thinking about upsizing take a look at a B26. It’s the smallest in Kubota’s TLB series and is still built like a tank for the rental and commercial market. I love mine!
I bought a kx040 😎👍
Great video. Wanted to add... If a person cuts their own firewood, a backhoe with a mechanical thumb makes life much easier. Holding a log above the ground is much easier on your back. Suspend logs over you trailer and cut dropping into the trailer. Efficient too.
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The tractor that I purchased did not come with a backhoe so I want one but like you said $7000 hit at one time is pretty tough… I have the Kabota L 2501 which is good I need a frame mount.
We bought one on the family farm to dig holes for post because of Rocky soil. The next year our waterline, all 200 feet of it froze and shattered. We expanded the amount of waterline by a hundred feet and redid all of our water system over the course of100 hours. Absolutely paid for itself many times over in just two short years.
Hi I also have a mini tractor backhoe and it has great points and bad too but most great its very versatile machine.
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To me, one of the best aspects of a TLB is size. I use skidsteers and mini-x’es all the time on jobs. But when I get in tight areas - especially with lots of trees all around - they simply aren’t the best option. Plus, maneuvering on tractor tires is A LOT less destructive on soft ground. Operators seldom consider the extra cleanup and leveling that can result from tracks in confined spaces.
love my backhoe worth every penny!
daveknowshow hell yeahh!!
Love these videos of someone explaining a backhoe pros and cons if you want to keep talking about cons grab a shovel see if you like that. .. yes it's not a excavator won't spin completely around in a circle.. the most cons I see on videos of a backhoe is no one really knows how to operate one
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I just got a 1025r a couple months ago and most of the hours I've put on it has been backhoe work....I've dug up all kinds of little stumps, rocks, septic to get pumped/install an access lid so I don't have to dig up anymore....Had to dig the septic line at the basement wall to relevel where the dirt sunk over the last 5 years....If I rented, I'd never do the 100s of little meaningless jobs on the weekday evenings after work that add up to something very substantial overall over time....Can't tell you how many loader buckets of rocks I've picked up at ground level saving my back from the hell that is a wheel barrow....My only regret is I didn't have one sooner.....
Heck yeah!!
Renting an excavator from let's say Home Depot is nice, but there's the time constraints you have to deal with. Obviously getting it back before getting charged for another day. But also, if you own the backhoe, you can dig anytime you want. Time wasted going back and forth to rent it also becomes a hassle. For one or two jobs, renting is great. But you'll be surprised how many little jobs, that's how they start, you end up doing definitely saving your back, arms and legs. And as you get older, I'm 54, you don't have the power like you did when you where 20 or 30. These machines can last 20 or 30 years. So you're not buying it for a few years. With care, your children can end up borrowing it.
Good video , I have a Deere 1025r got the loader not the backhoe I couldn't justify the extra 7000 for the backhoe. But after a year I wish I would have even though I still have not had an opportunity to need one . The resale value and the high cost of adding one is giving me a feeling of regret. If I could do it over I would have gotten the backhoe with the Zero percent they offered at the time .
Right on
young man,
worth every day to have backhoe
yes!!
I have the l6060 with the back how and would not change a thing. Of course the excavator is better when landscaping as 360 degrees makes the job easier and you can maneuver quicker but when I have to run to the end of the property the l6060 is great and if you are in bigger jobs and need the efficiency of the kx80-4 then us an excavator. The BH backhoe on the l6060 can do alot of work. It has more than exceed expectation. 10 out of 10. Don't forget about the thum !!!!!
You should sell me yours & go get that M62. Haha. Actually I’m torn between a cab or the backhoe. I live in Wyoming so the cab would be nice. I only have 7 acres of flat land. Basically a rule acreage subdivision. I do need to install a few culverts and plant some trees eventually. Do you regret not having a cab? Also is the seat the same as one with a cab or did they change the seat style without the cab because it swivels?
Jason White you can get a cab with the b2650, and the backhoe attachment has its own seat. And eventually I’ll get a m62 unless I find good help and get a skid and mini. I don’t really need a cab in San Diego only thing I need is a sun shade which I’ll be adding in the next month!
Hello
I bought the same tractor with Forks, both Quick connections, box blade, 5 foot Rotary more and trailer.
Passed on the Backhoe , but a week alter I called and ordered the Backhoe & Posthole drill.
They were still able to get Me Kubota Finance for the second purchase, but not at the ZERO %
$435 plus $175 for both purchases.
Plus, since they were in another State They shipped the 2nd purchase, but They had a Driver deliver there Package deal on the Trailer the Next Day. from South Carolina too Tampa Florida for $800. ( $2.00 per mile )
I'm not sorry Yet,...
Ken
Joette Rolison congrats!!
Basically If you have plenty off spare time on your hands they are OK,nothing to beat a 360 degree track machine that will get the job completed 5 times quicker if not more .
Sean Mckernan agreed
Nice video... Recently ordered a BX23s for the versatility and a Backhoe is needed on my 1acre lot , this thing will pay for itself in about three years with the all the work I will be able to do myself and possibly side jobs with BoxBlade and snow blower attachments. Its now end of April 2021 and can't wait to get it at the end of May 2021. It may not be the best at every job, but it does a VERY good job at what it does.
You’ll love it. The day we bought our house landscape company wanted 7k to redo our front yard I laughed and bought the tractor that weekend lol
A compact tractor is a Jack of all trades but a master of none.
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Great vid thanks! Did ur tractor come with a 3 point and u removed it and put on the backhoe to the frame or how does that work?
Tractor has a sun frame for the backhoe 😎👍
7500/84= 89.xx, but i agree, financing, i would do it too...
Hey bud, I’m thinking about buying a 2610 with the backhoe. I want to start a small tractor service like you. Do you have any suggestions of implements that I should have to offer as many services as possible?
Get as many attachments as you can so you can be real versatile 😎👊👊
I have a 3901 and considering a backhoe but havent justified it yet. Do you have any videos of it out on jobs? Just trying to justify. I own 12 acres and clearing stumps and grading my 2 acre yard mostly done already. Will need for ditches and cleanup. I have access to a miniex but hit n miss.
personally now that I have a mini I will never use a TLB tractor for any excavating. It did everything I needed it to but just took forever. having 12 acres unless you have a lot of time on your hands just use a mini
Here is your “justification”. You owning that backhoe is like me owning a tire machine (in a way) $5000+ for a tire machine, dynamic balancer, vulcanizing machine, weights and valves .... where walmart will mount and balance a tire for $19.95.... i have to do a lot of tires.... bur i have a hand full of cars, and a handful of trailers, summer and snow tires for the cars ( some mounted on extra sets of rims others just loose) if i have a flat at 10pm or on a sunday i dont have to wait in line till the tire shop has time to do my stuff ... and then they dont balance it right ....
So if you are planning on renting a mini excavator, how far is it to the rental yard? An hour there and an hour back ? You could have had 1/2 your job already finished with your own backhoe.
Then the day you have time and the weather is good the rental yard has no equipment available ..... wth...,
In my opinion it is always better to be self reliant and be able to get it done when you need to get it done.
Did I miss where you describe the tractor model number and backhoe attachment model? This is the most obvious information I look for but hard to dig it out. So many videos I watch doing my research, this is omitted.
B2650 BH77
Youre starting out. Its perect till you become bigger.
Exactly!!!
I'm about to buy a L4701 with loader and backhoe. I have 21 acers so I kind of need it but I also want to try and do a few jobs a month to take the payment off of me and hopefully get business to see where that goes. If it takes off then I will eventually buy skid steer and mini x. We shall see. They are doing the 0 down 0 interest for 84 months until the 30th of this month on them also.
That would be awesome
GUESS WHAT? THIS BAD BOY.
Which tractor are you using it on? I have an LX2610
B2650
What is the price of the tractor and backhoe together.
little over 30 with all attachments
Have you done a video on the lights you put on and how you installed them and if so which video title
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What do you have on there? A BH77? What size bucket do you normally run?
yup and it was a 12 inch
@@JamesMoVlogs thanks. I was undecided between the bh77 and the bh92. I think the 92 will be “better” and i also was undecided between the 16” and 12” bucket .... i think with the 92 i need 2 buckets a 12 and a 24.... the 16 is just “too big” for a lot of things i believe ...
but what do i know, that is why i am here watching videos and asking questions .,,,
@@ZILAwelds 12 is good for trenching lines but sucks digging up a lot of material. Anything is better then a shovel lol
@@JamesMoVlogs i would think the 12 is good for digging out stumps, hard soil conditions, retaining wall foundations, and some trenching .....
Of course if you want to build a swimming pool or dig a storm shelter 24 would probably be your friend ....
@@ZILAwelds if your doing that kinda work all the time look at a mini excavator my kx040 is night and day from my tractor backhoe
I ended getting the "little brother" to your machine, the Kubota BX23S. Came with loader, backhoe, and 60 inch mower deck. It's a 2018, with 197 hours, previous owner used it 99% for lawn cutting. Both buckets practically brand new. A steal at $18500. This is March 2022. New would have cost $29995. Ok, yes new would have come with a 5 year warranty, but these are so reliable I'm not too concerned knowing I'll be doing 99% of the maintenance. Renting is ok, but there comes the day when you can't find a machine and your client is not happy waiting a few more days for you to get the job done. Especially in the rainy season, where I rented and had the machine sit 1/2 a day waiting for the rain to end. Then having to rent it another day to get the job done. Cut into my profit.
Which model Tractor do you have it attached to?
B2650
Would you buy backhoe or the mt100? I'm really looking at one or other.
MT100 You can do 80% of jobs with just that machine the other 20 you'll need a digger
when you have one, you'll use it a lot more than you thought
Absolutely
In one way, that's called getting lazy, but in another way it's called getting productive. You'd be surprised how many things you can do that you would have regretted if you didn't have it. I had to move 6 sheets of plywood from the front yard to the back. Easily tie them on to the loader and away I went. A gallon of diesel definitely more powerful than your back, if you know what I mean.
If backhoes weren't worth having and didn't hold their own against other machines they wouldn't be selling like hot cakes and the good used ones wouldn't cost an arm and a leg.
The smaller the site the better the little excavators shine. But they do more turf damage and take so much more time to move dirt around the job than the little tlb's while wasting the tracks that it's to be avoided.
The bigger the site where the backhoe has unrestricted room the more advantageous it becomes. And there comes a time when the bigger the tractor the better.
Little mini excavator = big limitations. Little tractor/loader/backhoe = more jobs done. And excavators won't be running around town from job to job on the same day making money without a trailer.
Disclaimer. I don't have excavators. Just a backhoe, motor grader and dozer. But I don't dig next to house basements either, so.
Something to remember, the bigger the job and machines, the less competition.
How much was that model
Years ago was like 35k for the whole package
$8k divided by 84 months is $95 a month not $30-40 a month.
Still 100 bucks a month ain’t bad for the capability
Kubota promotions/ insentives actually allow money for attachments so it actually does work out to $30 or $40 a month. 😉.
After giving it alot of thought I am purchasing a backhoe for my John Deere 3033R. I bought it used so I didn't get the finance option but it's still worth the purchase. Rental costs on mini excavators add up over time. Also half the time you can't rent one when you need it because it's already rented out.
Unless you use a backhoe more than 35% of time the seems like it would be better to rent a mini excavator.
Until one isn't available when you need it
@@CLEEPER1 or, I've had a rental break down on a job. If it was my machine, which I take care of and know that the maintenance is done and done right, that wouldn't have happened.
Those compact backhoes look really weak to me. I would rather save for a small excavator. I have a lot of land though.. Backhoe would be more than adequate for stuff around a home with ~2 acres or so.
Joe McMullin agreed! My KX040 is amazing! But for a small compact backhoe for the average homeowner this thing rocks as well
I’ve got 10 acres, my 580 is overkill, I’ve got a slightly smaller backhoe that is about right. But something a little bigger than this looks perfect. Mini ex’s are so expensive since Covid.
@@2010mannw and the maintenance on two machines is killer too.
Excavator is not burning more fuel.
They’re ok at everything, not amazing at one thing. I will be starting with a backhoe and growing out of it. Also I can’t stand the people who tell me to rent. I get so many smaller jobs that if I were to rent I would have zero-little profit.
Exactly I charge 620 for a full 8 hour day. if I was to rent a mini thats 250 plus full so half...
@@JamesMoVlogs and that is if you can get that mini that day that you need it!
I'm sorry, I couldn't hear a word.
Eye sore when not in use?🤣 use a shovel long enough you'll find more Pros about it
The music....turn it way down
You have a VOLUME…. You turn it WAY down…..
@@JamesMoVlogs I just moved on and watched a better edited video
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