One thing to add to Bobby's message: In order to create more value in yourself, you need to WORK ON YOURSELF. What I mean by this is gaining self-confidence. Do things like make plans with friends/family/dates that fill your week up which will make yourself scarce (which creates desire when it's "rare" or hard to make plans with you), working out or dieting to feel more confident in your physical attraction, being so busy that you don't answer txts immediately at any time during the day (or just put your phone away for a few hours at a time so your not always connected), and having hobbies during downtime that keep you busy and make you an interesting (aka not boring) person. It could be working on your car, sailing a boat, learning to play an instrument, or just any type of activity that isn't work-related. These things can create a LIFE for you, which you give you a sense of priorities and VALUE, which will be projected onto her. Value and self-worth should never come from a women's validation of you. It should always come from WITHIN YOU, which will show through naturally to a woman.
Thank you Bobby. I have been in a position of dating a lot of women over the past six decades and as a military pilot with confidence and charisma, I have never had a problem getting women, but keeping them has been another story. Since my last break up I have taken time off from dating and been watching and learning from your videos and a few others. Including subscribing to your scrambler. It has been a slow process, but I have been making progress. After taking time off, I am slowly reentering the dating process and being more selective; it is working and I don't feel rushed or pressured any more. I keep myself in 95% shape, groom and dress well and take care of myself way better than I used to. It is a process; one that I will continue to engage in with your guidance. Thank you again.
I can tell you right now. Being myself and being nice brings women into my life more then I could even tell you. Has nothing about trying to hard. If you value a women and showing her that you take the time to include her into your life and you value her like she's everything. Trust me be just yourself and keep your confidence up about who you are as a man. Trust me women flock. If she sees you as less value then move on and she's not worth the time. If you value yourself and give that same value to someone your into. All is golden.
100% agree with this. There is a difference of being FAKE nice and genuinely like no I care about you and want the best for you. And that is me and what I can offer. SO many today are brainwashed. A God fearing man is what would keep them all in line honestly.
Unfortunately for me, I believe every word your saying. Time to up my game in the importance of my time and value stakes I think!. Having had a few ‘relationships’ in the recent year or so, it is the ones you give less time to that keep being interested months later. Though on the flip side it’s always the one you want and put the effort in with that isn’t. I need to learn from my own experiences 😆
This is an excellent video. I think it goes even further: what's the value of the gift of life? Do you value your life enough? This is not just about women. This is about you and your boss, your plumber, your parents, your insurance guy, your friends - everybody! And it starts with yourself. Do you value your life enough to not eat shitty? To not sacrifice yourself for work? To to fall for the cheapest emotion that media can trigger (embarrassment)? Think about it. I did and my life changed. Rapidly. Respect yourself, the gift of life and set boundaries.
The push pull game is key. No attention at all to a girl early on she won’t think you are into her even if she is into you. You gotta give some crumbs.
I strongly agree with you Mr. Bobby. You got the point. Personally I experience what you're saying here. You've got my highly respect on you Mr. Bobby. I know you're desire to help other Man like us.
Thanks so much for this, very helpful. I'm a typical nice guy that has no luck with women whatsoever simply because 'I try too hard'. Thankfully though i'm older and wiser now and have realised that being 'nice' gets you absolutely nowhere and watching this video has only educated me further so thanks a lot! The one who is being chased has the power over the person who is chasing them it's as simple as that and to keep it that way you simply just need to sit back and play it cool as like you said being over eager lowers your value to her and comes across as needy and desperate then the power switches right over to her. Let her chase you and you are simply the one in control it really is that simple.
Encountering this vid was the best thing. Perfect timing. Especially the birthday. Cause it crossed my mind literally am hour before this vid. This helped me regain my self and my position. Thank you for the nudge back.
Well, yes, there is a lot of truth in this. I have heard so many other people say the same and the reasoning is very sound. However, I still find it hard to apply in real life. Yes, I can play cool and don't contact girls too much. But typically that just seem to lead to they loosing interest and probably think I am not interested. I have a really hard time finding a middle way here. Somehow you have to signal interest, but at the same time not too much so they think you are low value. I find that hard.
there are other high value traits other than just not being too needy... How you carry yourself, how you're able to flirt with her, lead her, being comfortable with being sexual... all of these demonstrate value too.
I know of someone great and powerful who can help you he helped me restore back my broken relationship and he can also help you just as he did mine too
Pretty cool, atm it blows my mind. I had a girl on my work, and she's playing the hot and warm game. As mutch i dont care, it seems she puts more work on on the realtionship. Thank you so mutch for your help, but i have still watch the Rest of your content. Sorry if my english isnt that good, greatings from germany
Bobby is the avatar, the Jedi, the sensei of dating and female psychology and persuasion. He can teach you more than what any scientist or psychologist ever could about a woman, attraction and about your own confidence as a man. He is beyond expert level, he’s mastered the art of how to approach women and it works like pure magic.
i have to thank you for this video, i made every mistake you mentioned for a girl i chased for 3 1/2 years and when i finally got her i smothered her with to much and did it all wrong. going forward i will follow with less and less will be more. thank you
I'm glad I listened to your video it actually stopped me from doing things that I was gonna do today and we only been talking for 2weeks so I do appreciate your advise thanks
2018 I really crushed on her, right now I realize that my reactions at that time made me un-valuable at the girl’s eyes when I started watching this coaching stuffs till now, around 2018 i even cried on the phone to her to give me a chance for a relationship 😂
The only thing this guy has right is that people need to attach more more value to themselves. Build that self confidence. But do it for you, not for anybody else.
Came to know through her WhatsApp status that it was her birthday, still didn't wish her. Now *SHE IS CHASING ME* . Thanks Bobby Rio and Rob Judge u guys made me high status. "Once a women knows she has you it's over and you won't have the girl"- Bobby Rio #EPIC
There was an old saying once, "You have to kiss a lot of frogs sometimes." Dating is a numbers game. Especially now with the internet. But that being said, there are a lot of women online also.
My value is at 0. After being destroyed by my ex-wife and recently a female friend of 30 years. We finally hooked up and I blew it by being too needy. Wish I found Bobby Rio 3 weeks ago, I might be in a better spot right now.
7:38 here is one, extremely high interest coming from a girl. I was away, she responds to at least every other IG post. 3 times she asked when I coming back. I did week of her birthday. The Friday she msg me, what am I doing, anyway we ended up going out. Her bday was the Tuesday after, so day before I invited her out. She kept initiating business, she came over my place to discuss it. I then invited her over for a DINNER DATE, she accepted immediately. In going away again, I said, "when I am back we do/go on more dates". SHE PULLED BACK, went "dates? Thought we friends". I also pulled back, NOW A YEAR LATER SHE IS BACK ALL OVER AGAIN.
Downloaded. Bobbie I have a genius idea for you. You should consider working with a hypnotist such as Michael Sealy to create a sleep hypnosis track to help instill your alpha male thinking into the subconscious. I'd pay for that. Your psychology + Michael Sealy's hypnosis technique = amazing
That would be great. I love Michael Sealey's videos, and fall asleep to them often. But def would be cool to have customized one specific for this sort of thing
It’s today’s society is why a good man has trouble! Society has corrupted men and women and have turned the whole relationship upside down! In my great grandparents days and my grandparents day as well as my parents days things were a whole lot different and better for both men and women!!!
I don't know why people watch Bobby Rio's videos if they don't want to learn. It's easy to criticise. It's much harder to change and then take the necessary action needed.
If you meet a crush, I mean a girl you really love at first sight you cannot hold on a bit in chasing this is regular things all guys would be doing, unless you find this coaches, when you get the experience from them u can be a master for winning girls and most important is that you need to be able to control your self, love, feelings and, reactions when you’ve fall in love or else you’ll win nothing
Thanx BOBBY. I learned the right thing to do with birthday. But l already made the stupid mistake of asking her birthday in the first impression. IDK what to do now.
I’ve never planned or used a girl’s birthday to make an impression on her or as an opportunity. HOWEVER…. I have thrown parties just to be able to invite the girl I wanted to approach. If all fails, you can tell her you threw this party just for her and explain everything it took to get her to come and that alone will do it for you. Just wait until everyone is almost gone and only as a last desperate measure.
In my experience about half of the women I've met are like this the other half not so much, and their level of attractiveness was the same. Some do want to be chased but only if they see you as potential in the first place. Others don't. Some do see you as supplicating if you explain yourself others think it's polite and respect it if you do, if the situation warrants it. The women who do go for rude, ignorant, obnoxious guys who act infallible and above reproach are usually idiots themselves.
I was that kind of guy and I ended up dating the same girl whom I wanted to date last year but the moment I started giving her everything for free she started trying get away from me, now I can understand why it happened. I won her so easily when I was so busy not giving her attention not giving her love , when I was talking to other girls, but the moment I stopped doing this she started loosing attraction in me.
The birthday example reminded me of something that happened last year. This woman let everyone in the social circle when her birthday was coming. I had a sort of crush on her back then. I thought about getting her a present, nothing big, just a magnifying glass with a light on it as she has trouble seeing small print. Surely others would get her something. It would have cost like $5. A nice gesture but I decided against it. Another guy gave her navel rings, about $20, she had said she lost hers. I think he did this as an excuse to possibly show his affection, trying to impress. I didn't even think they knew each other that well and turns out, he didn't. He got a hug out of it. I don't think I've seen him around much with her since. Turns out, she's not really my type although I see her on occasion. She did have a party for me on my birthday, which was nice. No presents as I asked.
Man this exactly what I did After a week of talking i started asking so are gonna be more than friends or no I put too much pressure on that I knew she liked me a lot but what turned her off and she went back to her ex
Not only am I guilty, but I literally made the mistake last week! I used her birthday to try and set up a date (we’ve been out and have had $ex already) cuz I felt her pulling away…she hit me with the I’m busy 😂 Ironically I went no contact after that now she initiating conversations with me again (I found your videos after the I’m busy text)
One thing to add to Bobby's message: In order to create more value in yourself, you need to WORK ON YOURSELF. What I mean by this is gaining self-confidence. Do things like make plans with friends/family/dates that fill your week up which will make yourself scarce (which creates desire when it's "rare" or hard to make plans with you), working out or dieting to feel more confident in your physical attraction, being so busy that you don't answer txts immediately at any time during the day (or just put your phone away for a few hours at a time so your not always connected), and having hobbies during downtime that keep you busy and make you an interesting (aka not boring) person. It could be working on your car, sailing a boat, learning to play an instrument, or just any type of activity that isn't work-related. These things can create a LIFE for you, which you give you a sense of priorities and VALUE, which will be projected onto her.
Value and self-worth should never come from a women's validation of you. It should always come from WITHIN YOU, which will show through naturally to a woman.
"any time you explain yourself to a woman, your value in her eyes drops" awesome
Thank you Bobby. I have been in a position of dating a lot of women over the past six decades and as a military pilot with confidence and charisma, I have never had a problem getting women, but keeping them has been another story. Since my last break up I have taken time off from dating and been watching and learning from your videos and a few others. Including subscribing to your scrambler. It has been a slow process, but I have been making progress. After taking time off, I am slowly reentering the dating process and being more selective; it is working and I don't feel rushed or pressured any more. I keep myself in 95% shape, groom and dress well and take care of myself way better than I used to. It is a process; one that I will continue to engage in with your guidance. Thank you again.
Same here
My ex had conditioned me over almost 9 years to devalue myself and now I do value myself a lot has changed and for the better thank you
This is pure gold and soooo true.Thanks Bobby !
From today I will be a high value man
But with that will you get her back??
You don't know how much hard this made me laugh
Wear gold clothes
Same
You said this 5 months ago. Evaluate yourself today.
This is one of your best videos Bobby !
Thanks
I can tell you right now. Being myself and being nice brings women into my life more then I could even tell you. Has nothing about trying to hard. If you value a women and showing her that you take the time to include her into your life and you value her like she's everything. Trust me be just yourself and keep your confidence up about who you are as a man. Trust me women flock. If she sees you as less value then move on and she's not worth the time. If you value yourself and give that same value to someone your into. All is golden.
I know of a man who can help you get your ex back he help me restore my relationship back.
Whats"app him ....
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I agree with this.
100% agree with this. There is a difference of being FAKE nice and genuinely like no I care about you and want the best for you. And that is me and what I can offer. SO many today are brainwashed. A God fearing man is what would keep them all in line honestly.
Unfortunately for me, I believe every word your saying. Time to up my game in the importance of my time and value stakes I think!. Having had a few ‘relationships’ in the recent year or so, it is the ones you give less time to that keep being interested months later. Though on the flip side it’s always the one you want and put the effort in with that isn’t. I need to learn from my own experiences 😆
This is an excellent video. I think it goes even further: what's the value of the gift of life? Do you value your life enough? This is not just about women. This is about you and your boss, your plumber, your parents, your insurance guy, your friends - everybody! And it starts with yourself. Do you value your life enough to not eat shitty? To not sacrifice yourself for work? To to fall for the cheapest emotion that media can trigger (embarrassment)?
Think about it. I did and my life changed. Rapidly. Respect yourself, the gift of life and set boundaries.
The push pull game is key. No attention at all to a girl early on she won’t think you are into her even if she is into you. You gotta give some crumbs.
Bobby changes a lot of things. I love listening to you
I needed to hear this. From now on I will not give my time away to any female so cheaply. It all makes sense now.
Listen to this guy crowd, he's right on point!
I strongly agree with you Mr. Bobby. You got the point. Personally I experience what you're saying here. You've got my highly respect on you Mr. Bobby. I know you're desire to help other Man like us.
this guy hero after listening to his advice and taking his course so much changed in my relationship
one of the best video in dating ever uploaded in youtube, Good job
glad you enjoyed!
Absolutely love your videos. You're the only one I follow for tips on getting women.
I appreciate that!
I ghosted for months but did sent an unexpected birthday card and wrote in it!
Thanks so much for this, very helpful. I'm a typical nice guy that has no luck with women whatsoever simply because 'I try too hard'. Thankfully though i'm older and wiser now and have realised that being 'nice' gets you absolutely nowhere and watching this video has only educated me further so thanks a lot! The one who is being chased has the power over the person who is chasing them it's as simple as that and to keep it that way you simply just need to sit back and play it cool as like you said being over eager lowers your value to her and comes across as needy and desperate then the power switches right over to her. Let her chase you and you are simply the one in control it really is that simple.
Man I'm high af and this like the best video I seen in mad long. 🙌🏾
OMG this is insane 🤯 This is reality... I was a low valued men past days... Now I need to change
How true....If you got put in the friend zone, you set that in motion
been watching you for a week, and I'm a changed man. I wish I had found you 20 years ago
Encountering this vid was the best thing. Perfect timing. Especially the birthday. Cause it crossed my mind literally am hour before this vid. This helped me regain my self and my position. Thank you for the nudge back.
Bobby, the legend big respect for you brother and a hug from somalia 😊
Well, yes, there is a lot of truth in this. I have heard so many other people say the same and the reasoning is very sound.
However, I still find it hard to apply in real life.
Yes, I can play cool and don't contact girls too much. But typically that just seem to lead to they loosing interest and probably think I am not interested.
I have a really hard time finding a middle way here.
Somehow you have to signal interest, but at the same time not too much so they think you are low value. I find that hard.
there are other high value traits other than just not being too needy... How you carry yourself, how you're able to flirt with her, lead her, being comfortable with being sexual... all of these demonstrate value too.
Just started listening to your videos for the past couple days. You are the best on youtube man!!!
Hey Bobbie thanks for the pep talks I glean a lot from ur videos. Thank You!
I know of someone great and powerful who can help you he helped me restore back my broken relationship and he can also help you just as he did mine too
Text him on WhatsApp
Hmm this could be something interesting, i'll keep watching
You’re exactly right I’ve been too nice in the past
Pretty cool, atm it blows my mind. I had a girl on my work, and she's playing the hot and warm game.
As mutch i dont care, it seems she puts more work on on the realtionship.
Thank you so mutch for your help, but i have still watch the Rest of your content.
Sorry if my english isnt that good, greatings from germany
Bobby is the avatar, the Jedi, the sensei of dating and female psychology and persuasion. He can teach you more than what any scientist or psychologist ever could about a woman, attraction and about your own confidence as a man. He is beyond expert level, he’s mastered the art of how to approach women and it works like pure magic.
i have to thank you for this video, i made every mistake you mentioned for a girl i chased for 3 1/2 years and when i finally got her i smothered her with to much and did it all wrong. going forward i will follow with less and less will be more. thank you
I'm glad I listened to your video it actually stopped me from doing things that I was gonna do today and we only been talking for 2weeks so I do appreciate your advise thanks
I know of a man who can help you get your ex back he help me restore my relationship back
Whats"app him ....
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I want to thank the great customer service from his team. They came through with what he said.
Bobby you've added tremendous value to the repository of men's dating wisdom. Thank you!
From Now until the rest of my life I will be a High Value Man
Amazing video, one of the best of your content. Keep the good work up.
Bobby Rio! You’re Fkn excellent man, learning so much from you!
Thanks for all you do for us hopeless SIMPS😂
Good video brother! I have ten plus years of experience as well in the field!
Very well explained u drive it home abt high value thing thank you.
glad you liked it.
2018 I really crushed on her, right now I realize that my reactions at that time made me un-valuable at the girl’s eyes when I started watching this coaching stuffs till now, around 2018 i even cried on the phone to her to give me a chance for a relationship 😂
Brilliant sir really nice to have your precious advises
You’re God sent
thanks bobby
When you really stop caring they really start caring😃😃😃😃
It's true. We teach people how to treat us.
Protect this man at all cost
The only thing this guy has right is that people need to attach more more value to themselves. Build that self confidence. But do it for you, not for anybody else.
This guy is lost in the woods, badly. Listen to this woman and find your own value. This man is attempting to monetize insecurities we all have.
@@GeorgiaHeard everything he says is true
Everything he says is true
Came to know through her WhatsApp status that it was her birthday, still didn't wish her. Now *SHE IS CHASING ME* . Thanks Bobby Rio and Rob Judge u guys made me high status. "Once a women knows she has you it's over and you won't have the girl"- Bobby Rio #EPIC
Yes, That last sentence is true wisdom.
Great wisdom
I just want to tell You .. thank You brother
I know of a man who can help you get your ex back he help me restore my relationship back
Whats"app him ....
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Sir from today i will change myself whatever you said it's correct i hv suffered
Great video !
I was a god dam dancing 🐒 😂 @8:25
Great video , awesome insight! New subscriber
Great one!
There was an old saying once, "You have to kiss a lot of frogs sometimes." Dating is a numbers game. Especially now with the internet. But that being said, there are a lot of women online also.
I know of a man who can help you get your ex back he help me restore my relationship back
Whats"app him ....
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@@vivianjohn1011 Why would any sane man want an ex back?
Thank you
Guilty!
Thanks man
Thank you for those insights, man!
You have some very truthful insights !
My value is at 0. After being destroyed by my ex-wife and recently a female friend of 30 years. We finally hooked up and I blew it by being too needy. Wish I found Bobby Rio 3 weeks ago, I might be in a better spot right now.
7:38 here is one, extremely high interest coming from a girl. I was away, she responds to at least every other IG post. 3 times she asked when I coming back. I did week of her birthday. The Friday she msg me, what am I doing, anyway we ended up going out. Her bday was the Tuesday after, so day before I invited her out. She kept initiating business, she came over my place to discuss it. I then invited her over for a DINNER DATE, she accepted immediately. In going away again, I said, "when I am back we do/go on more dates". SHE PULLED BACK, went "dates? Thought we friends". I also pulled back, NOW A YEAR LATER SHE IS BACK ALL OVER AGAIN.
Downloaded. Bobbie I have a genius idea for you. You should consider working with a hypnotist such as Michael Sealy to create a sleep hypnosis track to help instill your alpha male thinking into the subconscious. I'd pay for that. Your psychology + Michael Sealy's hypnosis technique = amazing
That would be great. I love Michael Sealey's videos, and fall asleep to them often. But def would be cool to have customized one specific for this sort of thing
I'm guilty of that bday planning....looking back....i'm a complete failure....i fall into that trap.
I know of a man who can help you get your ex back he help me restore my relationship back
Whats"app him ....
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The person that cares the least in the relationship controls it.
Keep the good job Bob!
Thank you Bobby. I’m going to buy it for five dollars.
Powerful content and info, Bobby
I know of a man who can help you get your ex back he help me restore my relationship back
Whats"app him ....
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Good video Bobby keep it up
It's the hard truth and we have to hear it over and over again to get it into our beta brains. Great content!
It’s today’s society is why a good man has trouble! Society has corrupted men and women and have turned the whole relationship upside down! In my great grandparents days and my grandparents day as well as my parents days things were a whole lot different and better for both men and women!!!
Facts man...
Women were protected from themselves before
Appreciate your video and thanks
I don't know why people watch Bobby Rio's videos if they don't want to learn. It's easy to criticise. It's much harder to change and then take the necessary action needed.
I know of a man who can help you get your ex back he help me restore my relationship back
Whats"app him ....
+1 (2 1 3) 3 7 5- 2 1 8 9
If you meet a crush, I mean a girl you really love at first sight you cannot hold on a bit in chasing this is regular things all guys would be doing, unless you find this coaches, when you get the experience from them u can be a master for winning girls and most important is that you need to be able to control your self, love, feelings and, reactions when you’ve fall in love or else you’ll win nothing
Thanx BOBBY. I learned the right thing to do with birthday. But l already made the stupid mistake of asking her birthday in the first impression. IDK what to do now.
This made me realize I was playing the game right for 3 years then I screwed it all it by lowering the price on myself
I’ve never planned or used a girl’s birthday to make an impression on her or as an opportunity. HOWEVER…. I have thrown parties just to be able to invite the girl I wanted to approach. If all fails, you can tell her you threw this party just for her and explain everything it took to get her to come and that alone will do it for you. Just wait until everyone is almost gone and only as a last desperate measure.
In my experience about half of the women I've met are like this the other half not so much, and their level of attractiveness was the same.
Some do want to be chased but only if they see you as potential in the first place. Others don't.
Some do see you as supplicating if you explain yourself others think it's polite and respect it if you do, if the situation warrants it.
The women who do go for rude, ignorant, obnoxious guys who act infallible and above reproach are usually idiots themselves.
Agree
Thank you so much 🙏
I was that kind of guy and I ended up dating the same girl whom I wanted to date last year but the moment I started giving her everything for free she started trying get away from me, now I can understand why it happened. I won her so easily when I was so busy not giving her attention not giving her love , when I was talking to other girls, but the moment I stopped doing this she started loosing attraction in me.
Thanks brother for the great content.
The birthday example reminded me of something that happened last year. This woman let everyone in the social circle when her birthday was coming. I had a sort of crush on her back then. I thought about getting her a present, nothing big, just a magnifying glass with a light on it as she has trouble seeing small print. Surely others would get her something. It would have cost like $5. A nice gesture but I decided against it.
Another guy gave her navel rings, about $20, she had said she lost hers. I think he did this as an excuse to possibly show his affection, trying to impress. I didn't even think they knew each other that well and turns out, he didn't. He got a hug out of it. I don't think I've seen him around much with her since. Turns out, she's not really my type although I see her on occasion. She did have a party for me on my birthday, which was nice. No presents as I asked.
Very sobering message
Bless you man
Man this exactly what I did
After a week of talking i started asking so are gonna be more than friends or no
I put too much pressure on that
I knew she liked me a lot but what turned her off and she went back to her ex
Yes, on the birthday
Not only am I guilty, but I literally made the mistake last week! I used her birthday to try and set up a date (we’ve been out and have had $ex already) cuz I felt her pulling away…she hit me with the I’m busy 😂
Ironically I went no contact after that now she initiating conversations with me again (I found your videos after the I’m busy text)
Guilty of sending the happy birthday message when don't even know them that well throw my hands up to that one
I know of a man who can help you get your ex back he help me restore my relationship back
Whats"app him ....
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I have a LDR GIRLFRIEND and Christmas is already next month.. what should I do to impressed her this Xmas..... Please 🙏 help
That's great thanks
Great content Bobby
Every man should subscribe you because you know golden facts
A great, eye-opening video.
Heya Barb, great video mate
Stand still value of your life
Thank you for this and I've learned something important I'll start using in my relationship
I was already gathering her Christmas presant
dam thanks I was thinking about her bday on Thursday coming up I was gona buy. gift. flowers n mariachi thanks for heads up
Hiii greetings from Nigeria 🇳🇬 I'm just seeing you here for the first time tho....I will like to know you more I hope you wouldn't mind