@jeremiahurban2457 no it didn't. I think you're confusing a birds nest with just an overrun. A birds nest starts to overlap and loop itself into a knot. Over run is slack in the spool you can either manually pull out or is automatically pulled out by the sinkers weight
So I’ve never really understood how these bigger conventional reels work. How does the line lay back properly on the spool without a line guide? Do you just guide it manually to keep from piling up?
You can use bait casters or spinning reels. It’s more about having a proper surf rod. Cast control makes it more efficient. Using your thumb is not as consistent as you would think. I think you’ll burn up you thumb with the spool speed you can generate with larger surf rods and more powerful casts.
@@castclubmike I wanted to try out surf casting specifically on conventional since I'm horrible at casting spinning reels. Most of the information I found did not go into detail about the reel specs, looking around there are some reels that does not even have cast control but was marketed as a surf cast reel and that confused me more. So what you're telling me is that it's even possible to surf cast using an Avet reel if I wanted to so long as I have a proper surf rod?
@@SketchbookGuitar yes avet work. They even make some with magnet control. A star drag will always cast better than a lever drag based on design. But a lever drag will do just fine. Lever drag have the drag washers on the spool. Star drag has drag washers in the frame allowing the spool to not have to carry extra unbalancing weight.
@@castclubmike Thank you that reduces my confusion by a lot. Where I'm at we don't really have the specific surf cast conventional reels like the Penn Squall II 12SDCS sold, we do however have those long spool spinning reels for surf casting. I really thought I need those specific conventional reels to cast. This gives me a lot of options
@@SketchbookGuitar here’s a video of me casting a regular spinning reel not the tall spool long cast versions. 200yard cast. th-cam.com/video/zZ26zc-Tkbc/w-d-xo.htmlsi=3X0o7pwFQxk01pZr
That’s not a birdsnest. This is called an over run. When the sinker gets past 100yards you can not see it anymore. We wait to see the first sign of fluff before stoping it to prevent from stoping it to early shortening your distance. The tangle you see at the end comes out on its own extremely easy.
@@jackson3389221 sorry bud two different things from a birds nest and an overrun. Birdsnest is tangled up line and an over run just lefts off a few extra loops of line at the end of a cast. They are definitely not the same thing.
This is for offshore or deeper water stuff regardless so that little “birds nest” that you wanna call it. (Over run is what it actually is) would get out on its own cuz it’ll be sinking one, and two it’s braid, heavy braid, so it’s the easiest thing in the world to untangle.
@@jackson3389221poor Jackson you have a lot to learn buddy. Get off your phone and read more. Or get out of the basement and make mistakes and learn from them. Get out the bird nest knuckle head.
No birds nest here. It’s an over run your talking about. Birds nest is a tangle explosion this is just a few loops of line that come out easily on their own. No big deal but there’s nothing wrong if all you can use is spinning reel. I’ve casted them 200yards as well. Here’s a link to one of my videos with spinning reel. th-cam.com/video/VGbH-OJZ51E/w-d-xo.htmlsi=NYXe8CeB9z699JyG
I cant believe how many clowns are on your comments talking shiit about your "birdnest" and abilities... its crazy for real lol... sweeet setup bro... these guys probably cant achieve a single cast on this setup without a big fkn birdnest😂😂
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I thought for sure that run away was going to birds nest on you. Very impressive reel/line control
It did
@jeremiahurban2457 no it didn't. I think you're confusing a birds nest with just an overrun. A birds nest starts to overlap and loop itself into a knot. Over run is slack in the spool you can either manually pull out or is automatically pulled out by the sinkers weight
It did 😅
😢
So I’ve never really understood how these bigger conventional reels work. How does the line lay back properly on the spool without a line guide? Do you just guide it manually to keep from piling up?
Yes you must guide it back on even and flat. It’s hard at first but you get used to it.
You can angle the rod a little left to right and guide the line that way as well.
@@trevorpembroke2816that’s stupid why not just buy a reel with a line guide
@MRBURNTTOAST111 this isn't grade school. There is such a thing as stupid questions
@@DmT-py6zgI don’t fish, but why, do they not make reel guides that would work on bigger ones or somthin?
Ziplex is the way to go 💪🏻
It sure is!
Nice timing on the over run👍
Thanks 👍
Sick video ‼️🔥
Thanks!
Man gotta love the baitcasters. Way longer casting distance + accuracy. I know cause i got one lol
Waiting for the day someone make a hybrid baitcaster and spinning reel
it that braid? i heard it tends to backlash a lot, how do you do it??
Top is mono. Backing is braid.
😊
I’m personal experience braid backlashes way less depending on the brand cause it doesn’t retain memory in the line nearly as much as mono
@@Dcg860 not when you cast hard with huge powerful rods. Braid tends to dig itself into the spool causing you to break off.
@castclubmike having this issue now. You get a good cast then halfway in the lures coming back to where it came from
How do you prevent birds nest ? I can get these crazy long casts but it never works out always stops short cause the knot
What reel are you using and are you using braid?
I wish someone could tell me where I can find a rod for ground/pendulum casting/fishing, in Australia!
Gotta order from USA or UK. Century or Zziplex are the best. Veals or Gerry’s tackle in UK 🇬🇧 or hatteras jack in usa for century.
@@castclubmike thanks mate, really appreciated.
The reel is a diawa saltiga ha 50 , I use 30ha
I don't understand how overhead surf casting works. Can you use any overhead reels without the need of casting control? (magnetic, centrifugal)
You can use bait casters or spinning reels. It’s more about having a proper surf rod. Cast control makes it more efficient. Using your thumb is not as consistent as you would think. I think you’ll burn up you thumb with the spool speed you can generate with larger surf rods and more powerful casts.
@@castclubmike I wanted to try out surf casting specifically on conventional since I'm horrible at casting spinning reels. Most of the information I found did not go into detail about the reel specs, looking around there are some reels that does not even have cast control but was marketed as a surf cast reel and that confused me more. So what you're telling me is that it's even possible to surf cast using an Avet reel if I wanted to so long as I have a proper surf rod?
@@SketchbookGuitar yes avet work. They even make some with magnet control. A star drag will always cast better than a lever drag based on design. But a lever drag will do just fine. Lever drag have the drag washers on the spool. Star drag has drag washers in the frame allowing the spool to not have to carry extra unbalancing weight.
@@castclubmike Thank you that reduces my confusion by a lot. Where I'm at we don't really have the specific surf cast conventional reels like the Penn Squall II 12SDCS sold, we do however have those long spool spinning reels for surf casting. I really thought I need those specific conventional reels to cast. This gives me a lot of options
@@SketchbookGuitar here’s a video of me casting a regular spinning reel not the tall spool long cast versions. 200yard cast. th-cam.com/video/zZ26zc-Tkbc/w-d-xo.htmlsi=3X0o7pwFQxk01pZr
Nice
How does it go so far ?
A really good long casting surf rod and a decent technique that loads up that rod.
Knew he was gonna bird nest it
That’s not a birdsnest. This is called an over run. When the sinker gets past 100yards you can not see it anymore. We wait to see the first sign of fluff before stoping it to prevent from stoping it to early shortening your distance. The tangle you see at the end comes out on its own extremely easy.
@@castclubmikeyes it does come extremely easily when you don’t what you are doing, it’s still called bird nesting.
@@jackson3389221 sorry bud two different things from a birds nest and an overrun. Birdsnest is tangled up line and an over run just lefts off a few extra loops of line at the end of a cast. They are definitely not the same thing.
This is for offshore or deeper water stuff regardless so that little “birds nest” that you wanna call it. (Over run is what it actually is) would get out on its own cuz it’ll be sinking one, and two it’s braid, heavy braid, so it’s the easiest thing in the world to untangle.
@@jackson3389221poor Jackson you have a lot to learn buddy. Get off your phone and read more. Or get out of the basement and make mistakes and learn from them. Get out the bird nest knuckle head.
Siiiiiiiii!!! 😂
Stopped it too fast nice bord nest
Yup stick to your spinning reels. 😂 it’s called an over run. Different from birds nest
Bro casted to mars
How frickin long is that rod man?! Leave some for the rest of us! 🤙
13’6”
@@castclubmike13'6?????
@@scorched. Actually 13’2”. 13feet 2inches total length
@@castclubmike ohhh still super huge
@@scorched. yea but once you learn to cast them a 10ft rod feels tiny. Lol
bro casted over yonder
😂
💞Wow💙💙💙💙💙💙🤍🤍
thanks 🙏
How may yards?
152 yards with 175 gram sinker.
@@castclubmike nice man. Keep up the good work
@@bobmackay9281 thank you sir
Birds nest=pain
No birds nest here. It’s an over run your talking about. Birds nest is a tangle explosion this is just a few loops of line that come out easily on their own. No big deal but there’s nothing wrong if all you can use is spinning reel. I’ve casted them 200yards as well. Here’s a link to one of my videos with spinning reel. th-cam.com/video/VGbH-OJZ51E/w-d-xo.htmlsi=NYXe8CeB9z699JyG
Keep your finger on it and fix your tension wheel 😅
That would only shorten my distance
@@castclubmike …………
What the hell is that sound
It sounds nothing like a bait caster or spinning reel 😶🌫️
You gotta cast far to hear what a reel really sounds like. 😆
@@castclubmikebut that sound is creepy af🫥
@@castclubmikewhat on earth do you catch with it
@@Thesharktagger larger fish and sharks
@@castclubmike wow
You're phones fingerprint scanner will not work after using one of these
Lol
Go to the beach and catch a shark i always see you in a field or something
that’s meant for jigging
That flare up means use more breaks dude one more out ! Please
No brakes in here. Static magged. That flare up is just perfect. Max speed on the edge.
Watch the whole video. th-cam.com/video/dzG8als4Z3k/w-d-xo.htmlsi=iXGo7ItkAQCWi7Gf
Bros using 1000lb line
30lb bro
Brakes a little too low, nice cast tho
The other mags I had in it were too much braking I show more in this video. th-cam.com/video/dzG8als4Z3k/w-d-xo.htmlsi=i9vx4IZC2-xiiAjV
My man should not be using a bait caster somebody get him a zebco🤣🤷
Let’s see your casting. Lol
I cant believe how many clowns are on your comments talking shiit about your "birdnest" and abilities... its crazy for real lol... sweeet setup bro... these guys probably cant achieve a single cast on this setup without a big fkn birdnest😂😂
Lol it’s definitely entertaining
😂🤳🤡
😂
What a shitty design flaw
??? Please elaborate
Rats nest!
Yup stick to your spinning reels 😂
Peluca
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