Bird Aether 7 Review | Can 27.5 Wheels Still Fly? | 3rd Place Trail Bike of The Year

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  • The 2020 Bird Aether 7 is Swinley-based trail bike machine; a 130mm travel aluminium bike that sports 27.5in wheels, a 140mm fork and radically long geometry.
    Value is high with Bird, thanks to its direct sales model and, as with an increasing number of brands these days, the specification of the bike is customisable at the point of purchase.
    For our 2020 Trail Bike of the Year test, Bird built BikeRadar a bike just shy of the £3,500 limit.
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  • @philmean5603
    @philmean5603 4 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    Pretty good rating considering that 5 minutes of the 11 minute review was complaining it isn't a 29er...

  • @marklangley217
    @marklangley217 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    As a Bird owner I can vouch for how good this brand is, not just in terms of how much fun their bikes are, but also after-sales and reliability. My mk1 Aeris is 5 years old now and, with sensible levels of maintenance, this bike has been bomb proof and still rides as well as the day I bought it. The Aether is probably not the bike for my aging bones, but looks great and I'm sure rides great.

    • @damodbfilms1412
      @damodbfilms1412 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Ditto. That's pretty much exactly what I was about to write! 5 yr old mk1 Aeris. Still going strong. Still love it. Great bike brand.

    • @woduk
      @woduk 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I’ve a zero am hardtail that’s been great and noticing this video I’ll have to check out there fs range

  • @Buddyboz
    @Buddyboz 4 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    27.5 s all the way! Funner and just as fast. 160 mm travel that’s long but not too long with 27.5 wheels makes a very fun and capable bike. Soaks up the the chatter and ready for big hits. Great for switchbacks too. Carve those corners. Work the bike! I’d take it over a super long 29. 29 ers have their place no doubt. But for average trail rides- I have slot fun on my 27.5”.

  • @mattkock
    @mattkock 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    "You can see the welds here and there." was a negative in your opinion? How long have you been mountain biking, 3 weeks? On alloy frames seeing the welds and Not grinding them down (like Cannondale has done since their inception) is a badge of honor. Seeing those rolls of Nickels is super sexy and always has been especially when Yetis were handmade in Durango Colorado, not so much now that they are Carbon and made in Taiwan like every other bike on earth. Great review except for that blunder. ;-)

  • @jasonprfrost1
    @jasonprfrost1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I have a Bird Aeris which is 27.5 which I bought used and its the best bike I have ever ridden bar none over the 20 yrs I have been riding and its inspired me to ride so much Im thinking of "racing" Enduro and the after sales is justifiably legendary

  • @tamasvarga67
    @tamasvarga67 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Great review as usual! The bike looks business... great geo love the whole specs too - Shimano drivetrain and brakes Pike/Superdeluxe suspension DT rims on Hope hubs. I wouldn't change a thing on this baby...

  • @elefantrising
    @elefantrising 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The best customer service around I have never had to contact them the bike has performed flawless.

  • @jahanwatson2423
    @jahanwatson2423 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Interesting I’ve been dreaming of this exact type of bike, the big numbers without all the travel

  • @JogBird
    @JogBird 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    this would be cool frame to build up, easy to wrok on

  • @lrvz7187
    @lrvz7187 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Are we going to see the Bird am9 against bikes like the raw Madonna v2?

  • @SuperManelson
    @SuperManelson 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Too much focus on wheel size... My Whyte T-130 ploughs through anything I can think of, and I come out the other side with a massive grin in my face. That's what MTB is all about!

  • @garywinslow5607
    @garywinslow5607 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great review Tom, just slightly confused. Bike is agile and playful, rides shorter than it looks, but you focus a lot on the descents. Would this be a good ride for flatter, twisty trail centres (i.e Cannock Chase) and local woods? Looking at a new bike with better geo than my a Giant Trance, but don’t want a stretched out sled that’s not nimble. Airdrop Edit also looks good, but maybe too much travel. Any advice appreciated.

  • @cormacjordan7173
    @cormacjordan7173 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Cheers Tom! Particularly enjoying the BR content during these strange times.

    • @bikeradar
      @bikeradar  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Glad to hear you're enjoying it and thanks for watching from your friends at BikeRadar!

  • @baddriversofcolga
    @baddriversofcolga 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    This bike is such a great value - if only it came out before I got my 2020 Marin Hawk Hill 3 (which is a fun bike, but still...).

  • @BEATHLETIC01
    @BEATHLETIC01 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video.

  • @jaspergeens5841
    @jaspergeens5841 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    you should make a hardcore hardtail of the year test

  • @BMfins
    @BMfins 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    So odd it’s not all about how fast your going it’s about having fun, agility, weight. Etc.
    Soon we’ll have 37.5 tires 55 degree head angle and bus like wheel lengths.
    You just plow.

    • @philmean5603
      @philmean5603 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      And the reviewers will claim it's still surprisingly agile! And despite weighing over 50 lbs, it climbs really well because they steepened the seat tube angle one degree. "We don't rate bikes on how they pedal anymore because we don't!"

    • @542eastWA
      @542eastWA 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      grim donut

  • @Pienimusta
    @Pienimusta 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great if you have such smooth terrain.

  • @garethhughes5745
    @garethhughes5745 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    My Intense Tracer 27.5 is gathering dust while my 2000 Rockhopper 26" is much more fun to ride. So light and nimble in comparison, sure it will never be as fast, or as comfortable, but it is a lot more practical. Hopping off and lifting it over a fence is so easy (real mountain biker here), I dont know how these monster huge 29ers can get over fences, must be a right pain in the butt.

  • @roondoggers87
    @roondoggers87 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    You need to do some reviews or videos on Knolly.

  • @Stengell
    @Stengell 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    27.5" on my bike with 160mm travel, fast, agile and can handle when i throw shit at it.

  • @Ispwrfd
    @Ispwrfd 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I didn't see the Commencal Meta TR 29 in the grouping of bikes. Did I just miss it, or did it not make the cut?

    • @brauljo
      @brauljo 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      It sucked too bad to keep it.

  • @ehtikhet
    @ehtikhet 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Does anyone get the feeling that this gentleman doesn’t like 27.5 much? Perhaps a review of the bike instead of a soliloquy on wheel size.

  • @testing316
    @testing316 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    27.5x3.0 still my favorite wheel size.

    • @Hunter_Bidens_Crackpipe_
      @Hunter_Bidens_Crackpipe_ 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      27.5x3.0 is similar size to 29x2.3, so you already made the change without overpaying for a new wheelset.

  • @paulosallsopp
    @paulosallsopp 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I bought a Bird Aether 7. Amazing bike. Would highly recommend it

    • @sylvanmw
      @sylvanmw 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      is it good on rocky stuff?(for a 27.5 bike)

    • @paulosallsopp
      @paulosallsopp 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@sylvanmw the bb is quite low so I occasionally get pedal strikes. But Descending it’s unreal!

    • @goforbroke2
      @goforbroke2 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@paulosallsopp How well does it climb?

    • @paulosallsopp
      @paulosallsopp 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@goforbroke2 fantastic mate!

    • @goforbroke2
      @goforbroke2 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@paulosallsopp Slightly strange question, but what do you weigh? I only ask because I weigh 250lbs and some bikes feel like a noodle when I’m standing pedaling or plowing through chunky stuff.

  • @ltrtg13
    @ltrtg13 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    It's good to see a real mountain bike been tested. I'm getting fed up with all the flat bar gravel bike that keep getting mislabelled as mountain bike. I have never been taken in by tge marketing BS.

    • @anthonywalters7434
      @anthonywalters7434 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Where have you been seeing gravel bikes labeled as mountain bikes. The closest thing I’ve seen to that is my dad’s old Giant Yukon

  • @gerritpoehlmann8393
    @gerritpoehlmann8393 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    You have tested a L frame, how tall are you and and how long are your legs?

  • @neufisch718
    @neufisch718 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sounds like a bike to party! Coil + Enduro fork (38😅) ?

  • @timvelisek8764
    @timvelisek8764 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Nice bikes

    • @bikeradar
      @bikeradar  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      First comment. Have a heart and one billion gold stars from your friends at BikeRadar!

  • @Cakeborb
    @Cakeborb 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Can you guys stop saying "27.5 not dead *yet*" or "can 27.5 *still* fly" and all that stuff? It really seems like you're pushing the market by implying that 27.5 wheels are out of date and that everyone needs to go out and buy a 29er to stay hip, which will lower demand for 27.5 and then it might ACTUALLY fizzle out, which would be unfortunate. Smaller wheels have their place, not everyone who rides bikes races or cares about plow-ability and just want a bike that's agile and fun, which 27.5 does better than 29.

  • @flyingnorseman
    @flyingnorseman 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Might have just been the angle of the camera but it looked like the rear of this bike was flexing from side to side like a noodle.

  • @cspr1329
    @cspr1329 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why didn't you put the 2020 Orbea Occam in the test? I think it would be a top 3 bike

    • @jenssvela5988
      @jenssvela5988 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Because it didnt make it

    • @TomMarvin1
      @TomMarvin1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Hi Cspr,
      I did ask Orbea for an Occam - as you said, I think it would have done well. Sadly, they decided not to send one this year.

  • @Salvotation
    @Salvotation 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    where's the grim doughnut review?

  • @christopherroberts5011
    @christopherroberts5011 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    No frame protection

  • @arno8744
    @arno8744 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    What difference does a longer bike makes on the trail

    • @dadventuretv2538
      @dadventuretv2538 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Will be more stable at speed, especially over gnar, and if the length is in the front so that the reach is long, like with this bike, it will put your weight back more on steep descents so they’re not so sketchy. If the seattube angle is not steepened to make up for the increased reach you will get a lot of front end lift on climbs, but this bike’s geometry seems good. Some people will say they are not as nimble on tight twisty trails or switchbacks. While I agree with that to a certain extent, once you learn how to ride these newer, longer bikes they’ll go through most twisties and switchbacks that you are going to encounter on a trail just fine. It has to be a really, really tight trail for the length of these to be a detriment. The other thing is they will require more speed and preload to jump. So jump parks without much ride-in to the jumps will be harder and require more effort. Bottom line- if you like going fast and like taking the gnarly line, and hitting features and steep chutes and things, or especially going to lift access parks, (basically if you ride like a hooligan) longer is better. But you have to ride them faster and use more body with them to get the most out of them. If you just like to sit and spin and get in miles, a shorter, more old school geometry bike might be better. Hope that helps.

    • @dadventuretv2538
      @dadventuretv2538 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      29ers dominate trail bikes in marketing, for sure. Tech climbs- while 29ers do roll over better, I find that I can pick my line much better with a 27.5. In my experience, I can clean tech climbs more often when I can pick the line I need easier, rather than just trying to smash over everything with a bigger wheel. Bigger wheels smooth out the terrain- I find this one kind of ironic, because the same people that preach the benefits of this for 29ers, are the same people who post vids saying that now you need to buy a bike with less suspension travel to make the trails fun again. Here’s an idea to keep trails fun- buy an aggressive 27.5 that requires more rider input and line choice and encourages hooliganism but with bigger suspension for days you want to go big. With a compression switch with trail mode if you are on a less gnarly trail just flick it into trail mode. I also think a lot of newer riders would do well on 27.5 because they can’t just try to roll over everything regardless of form and technique- it forces a newer rider especially to learn how to handle a bike, how to lift the front wheel to get over things, how to pick a line,how to really use elbows and knees to flow with the bike, how to really lean the bike to make the corners, how to clear a gnarly section by airing over some of the roots or rocks. All these skills are essential to learn so that, when you get to the point where you are beyond what the bike alone can do, you have the skills to avoid eating it. Of course a 27.5 hardtail is the best for this. This bike looks like a blast. I bet this bike would be a ton of fun, and much more fun for so many riders than some less aggressive geometry shorter travel 29er.

  • @shortchainstays8762
    @shortchainstays8762 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Why are these comments so obscure and cursed

  • @Tequila628
    @Tequila628 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    29ers are gay! :D Gonna build an aggressive hardtail 29er on a Nukeproof Scout frame this summer to compliment my Spectral.

  • @davidferguson9109
    @davidferguson9109 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sadly, I’d be very wary of buying a 27.5 bike now. Given how the bike industry has historically operated, 27.5 will likely become ‘extinct’ over the next 5 years. Try finding a 650c road wheel, 26” Mtn wheel, square taper BB, etc....

  • @Mick1714
    @Mick1714 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Why don't we come back to 26? By the way, why don't we go back 15 years in time, and ride hardtails with rim brakes???

    • @brauljo
      @brauljo 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Honestly we should just trail run, barefoot.

  • @derektaylor2845
    @derektaylor2845 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just say the truth. 29ers are being marketed to people who can't ride but need a bike to make them feel faster.

  • @Hunter_Bidens_Crackpipe_
    @Hunter_Bidens_Crackpipe_ 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    27.5 2.8" wheels are same size as 29 2.25" ones. This whole wheel size change is an industry scam. Get a plus tyre and enjoy your savings.

    • @brauljo
      @brauljo 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      29 × 2.25 is 736.3 mm, 27.5 × 2.8 is 726.24 mm, 27.5 × 3 is closer at 736.4 mm. Not much of a saving if your bike can't fit tires that big in the first place, especially if you want tires bigger than 29 × 2.25.

    • @Hunter_Bidens_Crackpipe_
      @Hunter_Bidens_Crackpipe_ 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@brauljo Unless it is an old/XC bike, 2.8 shouldn't be a problem.
      It was surprisingly close for me when I first calculated, but 3.0-2.25=0.75x2=1.5 and 1.5+27.5= 29 after all :D

  • @soorplum1551
    @soorplum1551 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The trails get more technical so manufacturers make bigger wheels to iron out the trails 🤦‍♂️ and we buy them to make our technical trails easier to ride? 🤷

  • @randallgd
    @randallgd 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    almost 12-minute video and not even a weight on the bike disappointing once again from bikeradar :-(

    • @bikeradar
      @bikeradar  4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      14.49kg size large without pedals. Hope that helps!

  • @tonyparkin3379
    @tonyparkin3379 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Birds bike is just too expensive for the 2017 looks.

  • @olivert.7192
    @olivert.7192 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    looks like a cool bike, but external cable routing is just so disgusting. Can't buy.

    • @ryanp3907
      @ryanp3907 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Spend more time riding your bike instead of looking at it?

    • @aamgdp
      @aamgdp 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Have you ever worked on internally routed brakes? Now that's disgusting.