That was a great video! The CEO seemed very accommodating. He exuded a very sincere passion for his company and their craft. Im excited to see what you do with that new expensive toy!
Hi John Being in engineering field For past 30 years, I must say your video is a kind of delightful treat in it self. Thanks for making such beautiful film and I must appreciate support of Tornos for being so libral to show off all the operations. It's great to know what there work culture and system they work with. It's like many companies will come and go in this competitive market, they may steal the technology but one thing they can't steal is there culture. Great video once again and thanks warm regards
I had the opportunity to work at a Tornos loyal medical shop in Connecticut. They were a state of the art shop. 4 of the US's first Swissnanos, 2 Multiswiss, 4 EvoDecos, 2 ST26s, and another assortment of 15 or so Deco 13s. Best shop I've had the opportunity to work for.
It is very fateful to meet you. I have more than 50 Swiss-type turning-milling automatic machine tools, including Tornas GT26, DT20, Miyano 42, Citizen A20, L20, etc., but we do not have Tornas nanos series, hope to have the opportunity Can cooperate and communicate with your company. Courage from China.
Wow, the enthusiasm that both of you are oozing (drool) as you walk and talk about the machines is contagious 😊. Compelling biz talks in between are freaking awesome! The potential you guys have at that kind of stage is impressive.
I worked with a guy who grew up in the Tornos valley. He told us his father would dig out watch parts from under his fingernails when he got home from work. He was the only machinist I worked with that was allowed to drink wine with his cheese at lunch.
the tornos ceo is one of the most amazing people i have ever knew I swear his goodness flows through youtube I swear if I met him in person I will hug him a big one
It just goes to show the power and importance of significant social media types, particularly the ones that are grounded in the industry they're in and not doing the Logan Paul shtick. Guys like John Grimsmo and John Saunders are important to the industry and the industry realizes the value that they provide. Make no mistake, the CEO hopes this exposure leads to sales and that's just fine -- if they have a great product, and they do, they should benefit from the exposure.
I think what sets the people you're talking about apart from the rest is that they aren't really even "social media types" in the first place. To me, that term describes the Logan Pauls of the world who see themselves as a product they're selling and their audience is the customer. If their followers disappeared so would they. I consider people like Grimsmo and Saunders to be "community builders". They have vocations they are passionate about and could continue to provide for themselves and their families if TH-cam shut down tomorrow. TH-cam simply allowed them to share the things they love doing with others. Their pure enthusiasm is infectious and has naturally gathered all kinds of people together around them. Fellow professionals, hobbyists, and people who'd never given a moment's thought to machining or pocket knives - we came for different reasons but all stayed for the essentially the same one: it's nice to be around nice people who love what they do. Just compare this comment section to Logan Paul's and it will be obvious to anyone that they are not the same thing.
I live in Switzerland, and would love to work there. So many smart and dedicated people, engineers, machinists, designers, management, software developers. And they make really unique machines with a lot of huge impact in real world.
John, I just love how high your passion is! Man it's super fun to watch these videos. Most of us are here because we love your products and passion obviously. But these are the videos that give us the glimpses to how Grimsmo ticks. It never gets old. I love watching success and good fortune favor you and your family and team.
welcome to the dark side, the worst part about swiss lathes is they have a tendency to breed, I have 4 now and 2 more due next month. been running them since 2008 and love the baby machines.
Really cool guy. They run everything so clean, organized, with many talented people around and make no compromises. So nice for them to be really future oriented and also working close and well with customer.
A note about shop windows, they should always be on the North side so you never get direct sunlight. If you get sunlight hitting a machine you can for sure expect to be chasing tolerance issues.
Fun fact... (i dont know if somebody else mentioned it before)... The companys name "TORNOS"... with the same exact pronunciation... in Greek language is written "ΤΟΡΝΟΣ" (almost the same letters, actually they are the same but in Greek)... and it translates to the English word "LATHE" !!! So... TORNOS = ΤΟΡΝΟΣ = LATHE !!! You can check it on Google Translate if you dont believe me !!!
They actually anodize the titanium to give it micropores that the bone can grow into, and at the end of manufacturing they irradiate the screws to make them completely free of any organic compounds.
Wow. Such a cool factory tour. Amazed at the CEO's enthusiasm for the company, their products, people and their future. No wonder the make such great products. Can you give us a hint at what a machine like yours is costing? Please.
So happy for you that you were able to go. I couldn't believe the spur of the moment decision on the BOM. Amazing factory, thanks for sharing your experience!
This CEO, and the one from Kern, both seem to know what every part does in their machines. The CEO at my USA employer has no idea what we make, and never visits the factory floor.
I like your tours more then nycnc. Cool to see a company that still rebuilds and supports their old products. Was cool to see an indicating micrometer on the floor. Winder if they have any manual stuff?
I ran a deco ,20 and deco10 for years ..... Best machines as far as Swiss goes.... Can I make 1 suggestion... The more expensive consistant stock is actually cheaper because u don't have down time fiddling the guide Bush
This was an amazing video, John! Really, really great factory. This small swiss lathes are really amazing. All these tiny parts- I really can't imagine how to machine them. Awesome! I'm very curious to see more of this lathe, if you have your own :)
That’s fantastic @grimsmoknives ...... Full Grimsmo machines 😂😂😂😂😂. The passion for manufacturing and quality is ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️. Never occurred to me before, but your knives appear to be the Swiss Watch of the knife world 😂 (only saw one at the SMW Open House in ‘17, and remember thinking “Oh, I get it now, I understand why people pay $$$$ for these.’ 😎😎💪💪
I used to assemble CT scanners for Philips healthcare on an assembly line just like that. This was very cool to see, too bad I was a punk ass kid when I worked there and didn't appreciate how cool it really was, it was just a job in my eyes. I also wasn't into CNC and manufacturing yet, I mean I was doing it I just didn't like/enjoy or appreciate it until it came to me making my own products lol
Thanks for sharing such a amazing facility it's definitely amazing to see where the lathes come from and I definitely like the way the did there research to grow into the future
Absolutely nothing against SCRUM approach but I had a good laugh in that segment because my personal experience (probably because it was not run well) was that we were always in meetings and never at our desks programming and designing.
@@John-ik2eg I'm not arguing against any of these methodologies. These are world class companies making remarkable products. My experience was with a small company and I was wearing far to many hats which resulted in lots of meetings for me when we introduced Agile/SCRUM. I think some people in government and education have the wrong idea about Makerspaces/Incubators. An Incubator doesn't produce talented people. It does however attract talented people and let them explore and demonstrate that talent. I think companies like Tornos have recognized that Instead of throwing a big net around the throngs of people being pushed through trade schools, it's far more efficient to set out some bait like a incubator and wait for the Grimsmos of the world to walk in.
Funny funny, I worked on deco 26's for a decade along with a deco 13, st 26's and some traub tnl 32's. Now I work with Gt 26's and willeman 408 and 508s.
I'm curious about the bar stock they use when making parts. Does it go through a grinding process beforehand to make it round enough and consistent in diameter enough to pass through the guide bushing?
They use Azure DevOps/TFS for their ALM Tool in their software dev team.... (actually would love to figure out how to mix Agile & Machining.. you already do a fair bit of it without knowing it ;-).. )
We like these machines we must work harder to have one for now only a dream, we are happy for you. We machine our watch parts by hand for now. We know their machines through their company videos and seeing in use at the watch companies videos, they are great you are going to love this machine we think. Lance & Patrick.
its amazing and increible, i like much the machines cnc especify center of maquinado, im from mexico i make full setup, diversity of pieces, diferent machines. ♥ Boom baby
I have more than 50 Swiss-type turn-mill automatic machines, including Tornas GT26, DT20, Miyano 42, Citizen A20, L20, etc., but we don't have Tornas' nanos series. The Tornas equipment produced in China is not very good. After all, the market in China is relatively large, and the quality needs to be improved. Hope to have the opportunity to cooperate and communicate with your company. Courage from China.
I find it funny reading the magazines which tell you "improve productivity by 40% with a Swiss lathe", then "improve productivity by 40% by getting rid of your Swiss lathes and replacing them with multispindles".....
It all depends on what you're making. John was making tiny stop pins, screws, etc on that "giant" Nakamura Tome lathe, and those parts would be better suited to a smaller, faster, machine that's more specialized. Like a Swiss lathe.
Das man für eine Tornos 8x26 16 stunden braucht um sie zu rüsten sagt keiner ! Geschweige die Maschine die Werkzeuge einfach zu vermessen ! Sehr schwierig sie handzuhaben !
Man, I've got no idea who Tornos is, but that CEO makes me want to buy their product! Seems like an awesome dude with a real passion for his craft.
That was a great video! The CEO seemed very accommodating. He exuded a very sincere passion for his company and their craft.
Im excited to see what you do with that new expensive toy!
it's a tool. not a toy.
@@Juxtaposed1Nmotion for a lot of professionals, our equipment is often referred to as "big boy toys". 👍😘
The is a CEO who understands culture and investing in young mind. Congratulations on an amazing product and company. Hope to use your products soon.
Great tour! Sympatic and down to earth CEO, taking his time doing this tour)
Pretty Amazing Tornos is willing to open the doors of their 100 year Old technology Center where it ALL Happens. Thanks Michael for the Tour!
What an awesome video. That CEO seemed super grounded.
I am soooooo happy for you John.
What a great company, what a great culture....thanks for the video.
Hi John
Being in engineering field For past 30 years, I must say your video is a kind of delightful treat in it self. Thanks for making such beautiful film and I must appreciate support of Tornos for being so libral to show off all the operations. It's great to know what there work culture and system they work with. It's like many companies will come and go in this competitive market, they may steal the technology but one thing they can't steal is there culture.
Great video once again and thanks warm regards
One of the more interesting factory tours. You ever get a CEO to tour with you before?
Vital Carry I would be surprised if an American CEO even knew what their company looked like and made.
Great vid! I really loved the weight-based inventory/purchasing solution! Wow
I had the opportunity to work at a Tornos loyal medical shop in Connecticut. They were a state of the art shop. 4 of the US's first Swissnanos, 2 Multiswiss, 4 EvoDecos, 2 ST26s, and another assortment of 15 or so Deco 13s. Best shop I've had the opportunity to work for.
It is very fateful to meet you. I have more than 50 Swiss-type turning-milling automatic machine tools, including Tornas GT26, DT20, Miyano 42, Citizen A20, L20, etc., but we do not have Tornas nanos series, hope to have the opportunity Can cooperate and communicate with your company. Courage from China.
Wow, the enthusiasm that both of you are oozing (drool) as you walk and talk about the machines is contagious 😊. Compelling biz talks in between are freaking awesome! The potential you guys have at that kind of stage is impressive.
I worked with a guy who grew up in the Tornos valley. He told us his father would dig out watch parts from under his fingernails when he got home from work. He was the only machinist I worked with that was allowed to drink wine with his cheese at lunch.
the tornos ceo is one of the most amazing people i have ever knew I swear his goodness flows through youtube I swear if I met him in person I will hug him a big one
It just goes to show the power and importance of significant social media types, particularly the ones that are grounded in the industry they're in and not doing the Logan Paul shtick. Guys like John Grimsmo and John Saunders are important to the industry and the industry realizes the value that they provide. Make no mistake, the CEO hopes this exposure leads to sales and that's just fine -- if they have a great product, and they do, they should benefit from the exposure.
I think what sets the people you're talking about apart from the rest is that they aren't really even "social media types" in the first place.
To me, that term describes the Logan Pauls of the world who see themselves as a product they're selling and their audience is the customer. If their followers disappeared so would they.
I consider people like Grimsmo and Saunders to be "community builders". They have vocations they are passionate about and could continue to provide for themselves and their families if TH-cam shut down tomorrow.
TH-cam simply allowed them to share the things they love doing with others. Their pure enthusiasm is infectious and has naturally gathered all kinds of people together around them.
Fellow professionals, hobbyists, and people who'd never given a moment's thought to machining or pocket knives - we came for different reasons but all stayed for the essentially the same one: it's nice to be around nice people who love what they do.
Just compare this comment section to Logan Paul's and it will be obvious to anyone that they are not the same thing.
I live in Switzerland, and would love to work there. So many smart and dedicated people, engineers, machinists, designers, management, software developers. And they make really unique machines with a lot of huge impact in real world.
Genuine CEO, awesome tour ! Looking forward to the dust size chips!
John, I just love how high your passion is! Man it's super fun to watch these videos. Most of us are here because we love your products and passion obviously. But these are the videos that give us the glimpses to how Grimsmo ticks. It never gets old. I love watching success and good fortune favor you and your family and team.
I was waiting for you to show him your pen and his reaction.
Funny to see familiar places and people 😊great Video 👍👍👍hope you have lots of fun with your new machine
Just a beautiful tour..love it
13:17 I hope he didn't triggered an order of 5000 M6 x 12 screws,
by lifting the bin off the scale 😁
welcome to the dark side, the worst part about swiss lathes is they have a tendency to breed, I have 4 now and 2 more due next month. been running them since 2008 and love the baby machines.
Really cool guy. They run everything so clean, organized, with many talented people around and make no compromises. So nice for them to be really future oriented and also working close and well with customer.
That was astounding!! Thank you so much for sharing that! You did the right thing by just heading over there and seeing it all for yourself.
Amazing factory tour....A business like that can really open your eyes to what is possible.
I've watched you off and on for years now. You've really come a long way.
Awesome is not enough to describe this video.
Wow that was a great tour! Thanks John:)))
A note about shop windows, they should always be on the North side so you never get direct sunlight. If you get sunlight hitting a machine you can for sure expect to be chasing tolerance issues.
you'll notice the machine shop didn't have windows. Only the mechanical buildings.
I used to set the cam versions of Tornos back in the 80's!!
that would be like prehistoric now. the advancement in these machines is out of this world , I remember working on a NC machine in 1997.
Fun fact... (i dont know if somebody else mentioned it before)...
The companys name "TORNOS"... with the same exact pronunciation... in Greek language is written "ΤΟΡΝΟΣ" (almost the same letters, actually they are the same but in Greek)... and it translates to the English word "LATHE" !!!
So... TORNOS = ΤΟΡΝΟΣ = LATHE !!!
You can check it on Google Translate if you dont believe me !!!
They actually anodize the titanium to give it micropores that the bone can grow into, and at the end of manufacturing they irradiate the screws to make them completely free of any organic compounds.
Wow. Such a cool factory tour. Amazed at the CEO's enthusiasm for the company, their products, people and their future. No wonder the make such great products. Can you give us a hint at what a machine like yours is costing? Please.
So happy for you that you were able to go. I couldn't believe the spur of the moment decision on the BOM. Amazing factory, thanks for sharing your experience!
They make their own spindles. Awesomeness.
You bought a GT 13!! That’s my dream lathe! Congratulations! It is so cool that you did this tour, I’ve been admiring Tornos for years now!
This CEO, and the one from Kern, both seem to know what every part does in their machines. The CEO at my USA employer has no idea what we make, and never visits the factory floor.
What a great CEO.
Really seemed to know and love his company. 👍
Great tour, superb company, must be great to work there
Wow these machines are incredible! So is their process, the hardware automation system is amazing!
Mahalo for the tour! I can’t wait to see Germany! Good luck finding additional batteries.
Great video, what a superb factory!
Awesome plant tour ! Thanks
This is so awesome. I loved the time I spent in Switzerland!
23:52 - Wow, even Swiss squatters are awesome.
Amazing thank you John
So Cool! I love Switzerland; I spent some time over there playing music.
I like your tours more then nycnc. Cool to see a company that still rebuilds and supports their old products. Was cool to see an indicating micrometer on the floor. Winder if they have any manual stuff?
Holy cow that was awesome! Just a really cool company, good choice!
Awesome tour!
I ran a deco ,20 and deco10 for years ..... Best machines as far as Swiss goes.... Can I make 1 suggestion... The more expensive consistant stock is actually cheaper because u don't have down time fiddling the guide Bush
This was an amazing video, John! Really, really great factory. This small swiss lathes are really amazing. All these tiny parts- I really can't imagine how to machine them. Awesome! I'm very curious to see more of this lathe, if you have your own :)
Epic tour and what a historical place and company
That’s fantastic @grimsmoknives ...... Full Grimsmo machines 😂😂😂😂😂. The passion for manufacturing and quality is ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️. Never occurred to me before, but your knives appear to be the Swiss Watch of the knife world 😂 (only saw one at the SMW Open House in ‘17, and remember thinking “Oh, I get it now, I understand why people pay $$$$ for these.’ 😎😎💪💪
What an experience!
I used to assemble CT scanners for Philips healthcare on an assembly line just like that. This was very cool to see, too bad I was a punk ass kid when I worked there and didn't appreciate how cool it really was, it was just a job in my eyes. I also wasn't into CNC and manufacturing yet, I mean I was doing it I just didn't like/enjoy or appreciate it until it came to me making my own products lol
I'd love to have that tour too!!!
Thanks for sharing such a amazing facility it's definitely amazing to see where the lathes come from and I definitely like the way the did there research to grow into the future
That was awesome!
Great vid, thanks
Absolutely nothing against SCRUM approach but I had a good laugh in that segment because my personal experience (probably because it was not run well) was that we were always in meetings and never at our desks programming and designing.
@@John-ik2eg I'm not arguing against any of these methodologies. These are world class companies making remarkable products. My experience was with a small company and I was wearing far to many hats which resulted in lots of meetings for me when we introduced Agile/SCRUM. I think some people in government and education have the wrong idea about Makerspaces/Incubators. An Incubator doesn't produce talented people. It does however attract talented people and let them explore and demonstrate that talent. I think companies like Tornos have recognized that Instead of throwing a big net around the throngs of people being pushed through trade schools, it's far more efficient to set out some bait like a incubator and wait for the Grimsmos of the world to walk in.
@@John-ik2eg Good employees are extremely hard to find. You think scrum is nonsense, but the answer is government intervention? lol. come the fuck on.
Same here! SCRUM sucks.
Ya , these company are absolutely remarkable
Aussi, merci pour les traductions!
Funny funny, I worked on deco 26's for a decade along with a deco 13, st 26's and some traub tnl 32's. Now I work with Gt 26's and willeman 408 and 508s.
Great video pity you didn't get tornos to make one or two of your pen part's,but it crossed your mind haha.Onward to Germany.!
I worked on cam driven Swiss lathes for over 20 years amazing machines I wished I could have worked on new technologies machines but didn’t happen ☹️
Inspiring! thanks.
You are very good, I admire you very much.
Extremly intresting.
Can you program it with Fusion?
I'm going to guess you new lathe has a chip pan the size of a paint can, and I'll bet you'll have to empty it, what, monthly? Great fun, either way.
I'm curious about the bar stock they use when making parts. Does it go through a grinding process beforehand to make it round enough and consistent in diameter enough to pass through the guide bushing?
Sometimes, it doesn't have too.
You could easily setup your own weight based stock monitoring system with and arduino or raspberry pi :)
You could probably hire some kids from a high school tech program to do it as well!
@@OakwoodMachineWorks probably do it much faster than me :)
very cool
men icreible esas viejas maquinas
Wow !!
What is the cost of this machine?
This awesome by ceo
The phrase kid in a candy store comes to mind
They use Azure DevOps/TFS for their ALM Tool in their software dev team.... (actually would love to figure out how to mix Agile & Machining.. you already do a fair bit of it without knowing it ;-).. )
how did you find out that info?
Thumbedup already. Need to wake up properly and then watch!
What's one of these things worth? Very nice congrats!
Have a look at the weight based Inventory solution from www.ambos.io
11:00 carbide insert screw
We like these machines we must work harder to have one for now only a dream, we are happy for you. We machine our watch parts by hand for now. We know their machines through their company videos and seeing in use at the watch companies videos, they are great you are going to love this machine we think.
Lance & Patrick.
You all don't have one of those 1875 Tornos stashed away? :-)
its amazing and increible, i like much the machines cnc especify center of maquinado, im from mexico i make full setup, diversity of pieces, diferent machines. ♥ Boom baby
i love it, here hiring people who have mental experience in machines, but form other country like Mexico. ?
You could be that dude son!
Lucky you 👍
Never priced a Swiss , are more expensive or less than your Nakamura?
I priced out a Swiss for 1in and under was $280k
swistek.com/product-category/machines/new-machines/new/
more affordable than you'd think
Deco are tornos
I have more than 50 Swiss-type turn-mill automatic machines, including Tornas GT26, DT20, Miyano 42, Citizen A20, L20, etc., but we don't have Tornas' nanos series. The Tornas equipment produced in China is not very good. After all, the market in China is relatively large, and the quality needs to be improved. Hope to have the opportunity to cooperate and communicate with your company. Courage from China.
So they speak french over there? I didnt know that!
I find it funny reading the magazines which tell you "improve productivity by 40% with a Swiss lathe", then "improve productivity by 40% by getting rid of your Swiss lathes and replacing them with multispindles".....
It all depends on what you're making. John was making tiny stop pins, screws, etc on that "giant" Nakamura Tome lathe, and those parts would be better suited to a smaller, faster, machine that's more specialized. Like a Swiss lathe.
No purple cows?
during spring they get fresh painted
Yeah not so pleasant in Winter young man
Das man für eine Tornos 8x26 16 stunden braucht um sie zu rüsten sagt keiner ! Geschweige die Maschine die Werkzeuge einfach zu vermessen !
Sehr schwierig sie handzuhaben !
The evaluation plan made me throw up