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Making Millions of TINY Precision Parts In Switzerland
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 17 ส.ค. 2024
- Making Millions of Tiny Precision parts on Swiss Machines in Switzerland.
Tornos machines including the Swiss Nano, Evo Deco, MultiSwiss, and Deco 10 Plus all being used for the Watch, Medical, and Metrology Industries.
Thank you Azurea for having us!
00:00 Introduction
00:19 Tour CNC Machine Company Switzerland
00:57 CNC Swiss Machining Floor
01:29 Tornos Swiss Nanos
02:11 The Tiny Parts Azurea Makes
03:51 Tornos Evo Decos
04:38 Tornos MultiSwiss
05:16 Thank you Members
05:33 Inspection Process for Tiny Parts
06:32 Swiss Company Tour
08:17 Tornos Swiss Decos
09:44 TISIS Software on Swiss Machine
10:31 Tornos Refurbishes Older CNC Machines
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5:46 Only one second to optically check a tiny part with a tolerance of plus-minus 3 microns (metric) AND automatically correct/update the production machines in real-time to fine tune the production run. Very impressive.
Those Keyence im machines are awesome
@@joelawton123yup. With my company bought Keyence instead of Ayonis.... I cry every day using it
I’d be interested to see how that actually works , because the time from when they check the parts to the time when they update it, it could be off depending on how warmed up the machine is, I honestly can’t picture how that would work.. and don’t believe it. Especially on a tolerance that insanely tight on a machine that is turning not grinding, and what if the machine is currently running? Inserts are slightly more worn now then when the parts made, someone explain this to me I can’t wrap my head around it, unless. They have some insanely accurate tool setter with macros for tool break detect
@@adammiller4879 thats why you have a temperature controlled environement and machine. Thats just the basic rules in precision machining.
@@Zonkobel that’s not what I’m talking about, depend on your warm up cycle, your machine can vary .0005, on my dmg mori, if I take a break and set it in it’s precise warmup cycle it will only change about .0001-.0001, so I’m just talking more about the machines variables, there’s just a lot to factor in is my point and it’s hard to wrap your head around it
Uh oh, I think we lost Donnie guys.. he's not coming back from Switzerland lol
Dang
Switzerland. Highest wages, lowest unemployment. The minimum wage? It's 0 CHF. That's zero, nada, bupkis, zilch.
Swiss government will deport him anyway
@@peteroleary9447no it’s not it depends on the canton but it’s around 20-25
@@Pilotpegga True re. cantonal minimum wages. There is no national minimum wage in Switzerland.
BTW, Bern Canton, where Azurea is located has _no_ minimum wage
Swiss machines making Swiss watches using Swiss coolant in Switzerland.
That Blaser swisslube can be very annoying to balance, and when there isn't enough water in it or it goes bad, it stinks...
@@braydons5623
Swissy/Fishy
Kinda like dead skunk cologne mixed with essence of the eggs that were left in the trunk after shopping two weeks ago and busted 9 of the 12 hitting a pothole during a rainstorm. Now must wait In the rain for the towtruck
@@braydons5623 Petrochem is not the Swiss expertise.
Working at Azurea is absolutely amazing! Making parts with such tight tolerances became part of my daily life there. It is very cool!
You are with a great company. I have worked with Azurea since 1999 and my company has for probably 40-50 years. Mr. Uhlmann is great and Sam is a good friend. Always enjoy visiting Moutier and Bévilard. Are you in Porto?
If we don’t see Donnie anymore we know where to look 😂😂😂 Yet another awesome tour. These guys do everything big. Much love and gratitude 💥❤️
Thanks man! And nah I ain’t leaving Titans under any circumstances. He is genuinely the best boss on the planet!!!
@@donniehinske I bet! That would be like having Disney world access year round
@@donniehinskeplease do more video. You are a good personality
@@jmssun tell that to my ex girlfriend! 😂 all jokes aside thank you! I plan on doing many more
As a CNC Mechanik in switzerland I love to see such advanced companies in switzerland. They optimize to their best. This is great to see
Absolutely incredible. Precision and optimization in every aspect across the board at it's best. Titans made an excellent choice when they hired Donnie. So much knowledge, enthusiasm and energy. He is a great CNC ambassador.
As someone getting a BS in mechanical engineering who has always been fascinated with clocks/watches and the associated micromachining this video was absolutely amazing.
I'm just amazed that in this day and age there is enough demand for mechanical watch parts to support a huge operation like this!
Have you seen the prices some watches go for? Also, I'd bet there's still a lot go into munitions.
@@MattOGormanSmith Really good call on that. Lots of various clockwork safeties built into munitions. Like needing a certain RPM and revs (that can only be achieved by firing from a barrel) to align the powder train for the fuze. And there's been a loooot of munitions flying around the last two years, sadly.
I follow a few watch channels, that field is just insane. A different world of machining, precision and HOW THE HECK DO THEY DO THAT?!?!? And now we know.
Badass. Proud to be a quarter Swiss.
This is fun watching this form
Of micro machining! In the eighties I worked for a company that we made aircraft instruments. We made similar details like these . Pins, collars, knurled knobs, and bezel faces.
Thanks for
The memory! 👍🏼
Great video! You see how everything works like a well oiled machine; you have the entire supply chain within a few miles of each other.
Man , Machine, Manufacturing at its Peeak = Swiss !!
I just thinking I am just falling in love with this machine
So Donnie is going in the winter, to the Swiss Alps for his new holiday job 😂
If you don't watch out, you inhale some small part and your belly starts ticking like a Rolex 😉
Super fun to watch!
Thanks ma!
Great video. Thank you for sharing 😊
I work at the one they opened in Portugal
Ant-Man from the Marvel movies would be very happy with this tour 🤣🤣
Love what you do there man thank you for this awesome trip BOOM 💥
Thanks for posting, really interesting visit!
Donnie ... Technical 10/10
Communication 10/10😊
Great video for our local industries. Thank you Donnie.
I saw this kind of machine once in my country. They had it shown in an exhibition. The demonstrator said it is used in making tooth crown nuts.
We just got one of those optical machines for inspection cost us £55000, not cheap but great for getting an unskilled person
checking parts.
It's a Keyence's one
Donnie is too excited to slow down and simply his English so they can follow what he's saying.
Donnie: "Tornos, you rule!"
The Swiss: "What?"
Stick to the marked slopes & trails when skiing Donnie, Vry cool company amazing 2023 hi tech on the nano side huge eye opener
Great content. Beautiful to watch
J'espère que tu as mangé une bonne fondue là-bas !
I'm very curious. I work in a high-level plastics machine shop in the eastern US and we're looking at tornos machines. We machine EVERY type of plastic. From generic delrin that many machine shops run, to the polymer equivalents of super-alloys that cost thousands of dollars a pound or more that end up in satellites and other extreme duty applications.
Because these swiss machines use guide bushings as opposed to a standard chuck, is it an issue with plastics? I know harder plastics like polyester or G10 would be fine, but what about softer stuff like UHMW, HDPE, or even PFTE? if you saw anything like that there Donnie, I'd love to hear because we've used your shop's production as some inspiration for looking to purchase swiss lathes
Yea it should be fine as long as the outside diameter of the material is consistent. There is also NON guide bushing mode which makes the machine function like a traditional lathe. There is also adaptive guide bushings that can adjust automatically to the variable diameter of whatever material you are running.
I can confidently say you won’t have a problem with these solutions BUT I would need all the details
Chips management will be your biggest challenge with such materials in Swiss type.
Donnie makes a great host and because he is so knowledgeable about this subject makes his tour videos the best!
its amazing the work ethic the swiss have, fantastic people
Absolutely amazing! Thanks for sharing!
What are the torque values on those watch screws and how are they measured?
I can just picture AVE with a tiny screwdriver 🪛 saying "click" 😂
As a total newbie about machining I have a question.
How are these gears with ball bearings (4.55) machined. Are balls inserted using temperature differential??
Thanks!
Very interesting tour! 😊
Дони чем-то напоминает соседку через дорогу в деревне в Башкирии.))) Завязать платок, одеть фартук и дать вёдра будет 1 в 1)))
Letting another machinist walk thru your shop used to be a big no no. He has all your knowledge now.
thats crazy stuff
Boom!!!
WHAT A LIGHTWEIGHT DWEEB- could have been an interesting video
Oh man such a great video, Donnie is a great presenter, high energy, and damn the swess are so down to earth!
It's a small world after all......
I know what you're trying to convey when you say "They're like Starbucks," but, cmon, there has to be a better analogy for conveying a clean and neat workspace than STARBUCKS when talking about watchmakers
This is insane, I love it.
Damn, future donnie lookin good. Lost some weight and gained muscle 💪
Thanks brohammer!
Amazing, thanks.
That was😍😍😍😍
This was awesome
Nice people
amazing
as a steampunk...this was so cool to see thank you
wunderfoll ! echt beindruckend !
Love it!
Always amazed at making those really small parts, almost impossible
Okay, i think i have to add a few more museums to my list of places i wanna go
Super cool video.
Impressive!
Now go to the Tornos factory
Already did bro
3 microns tolerances.....m'y god
The amount of coolant being used on those tiny parts is like using multiple fire hoses to cool the bit on your benchtop drill press.
Would have loved to see the machine working with the coolant turned off.
Amazing ...... how to they even hold the parts? It seems like the rate cooling/lub fluid comes out would blast the parts off.
Do they lose parts in the machines?
Bet I have a few of those parts in my watch,... says Switzerland on it🤔..... and the box it came in says China 🤨... hmmmmm...... maybe they buy Swiss parts ?
Rip bozo, you got scammed
the Chinese can make everything, even some Swiss gears
A full mechanical watch can be produced (components, assambly) far below 100$ in switzerland. The swatch sistem51 starts at just 150$ for a full mechanical watch.
@@Francis-yc9nc Yet the sistem 51 is less than stellar. I got one the first year and it lasted about 18 months. Now the Swatch IRONY Automatic I got in Bern in 1999 for CHF 120 ran perfect for just over 23 years. It sadly died on me this past Spring 😞 The sistem 51 was also loud.
I have a knock around Tissot on for now and will be getting a Zenith El Primero next year.
There is a difference between MADE in Switzerland and DESIGNED in Switzerland. They are very specific about the Made label with the content of components which must originate in CH. This has actually increased in the past years because they want to preserve the brands and their value.
What make watch is it?
Hi guys! Can you tell me how the finished parts are unloaded (on sub spindle)? Is air used? How and where are the finished parts assembled? This is very interesting...
For small part usually a vaccum system is used
He is absolutely correct! We are using one on our SwissNano! Stay tuned for that video it’s going to be sweet!
@@donniehinske Ok, looking forward to a demonstration in your new videos. Thank you!
Are all Swiss watch companies using CNC or are the more prestigious ones still hanging on to manual manufacturing?
CNC is taking over. There are still some old Tornos cam machines running but it is fewer and fewer. The Swiss nanos take roughly the same space and are now fast enough to justify the swap. In addition the watch makers are in an "arms race" of sorts to continually make more complex movements requiring more complex parts made from more difficult materials. You still have an enormous amount of traditional screws but many other parts have gone beyond the capability of a cam to produce them. You aren't running 316 or Ti on the cams. This is especially true of the highest end watch makers who continually push the envelope.
I've been on the floors a couple times a year there since 1999. Every year there are fewer cams. The most I see running now aren't even for watches but supporting connector production where copper alloys are king.
So when does Donnie move? 😛🤣. Boy was Donnie like a kid in the old fashioned candy shop lol.
WOW
So these guys are running their machines in French, talking to the host in English, and talking around the office in Romansh. And they gave no problems calling up a German supplier. I kinda wish people in America were this open to the world.
i cant believe these tiny mechanical problems/parts are still not obsolete in 2o23
Donnie from the future lookin leean beef
Thanks man! Been putting lots of work in!
I built a Gym around his Swiss Department… There is no escape. All seriousness though… He has lost about 25 pounds. Dudes Killing It
incrivel !!!!
Has everyone faioed to mention that before CNC the same parts were made to the same accuracy in numbers not so smaller than now? For example, some factories were able to produce 3,000 complete basic watch movements per day, with most parts made in house. Now, that is really amazing.
Yes, the old-school way had a lot more manual labour and custom machines that did one job only.
Egads.....just think of the cutting tools and how precise they have to be to make micro parts like that.
I was hoping for some close-ups of that.
Probably top secret? 🤔
7:29 "completely mastered" ... red flashing light: Am I a joke to you?
Man you got to speak a little slower, I had to check my video speed twice, felt like 2x.
Donnie is the best
0:23 "Tornos" is Spanish for Lathes.
_Thank you very much!_
_Very interesting and informative!_
Most Swiss watches are mass produced. Now you know why.
....duuude.... wood floors!?! ? ?DAAAAAAAAAAAAMN SON!!
I wonder how much power they consume in a day with all the machines in the first factory ❤
When you see how people work in these companies, you realise why they work there for more than a few years. You can't just fire such employees and then take them off the street when you need them again.
So.... it seems that Swiss watches are not 'hand crafted' but the hand just pushes a button.
Im living at 1 h from moutier , welcome to Swiss precision 🫶🏻🫶🏻🤙🏻 I love your content by the way
I would like to see more engineering
I live close, but it's already another language 😅
I want tiny metal non magnetic gears for my ho scale trains. I seriously think they could be a lot better. The gearboxes, voltage application everything from every company Scale trains etc.
Fabricar esas piezas tan pequeñas me causa mucho estres 😵💫😵💫😵💫😵💫
In that machine shop you don't talk in Imperial.
How were these parts made back in 1917?! 🤯
Good question, were they made?
I would say on lathe like the Swiss Schaublin 70.
Watch Titan's tour of Laubscher Precision in the German speaking region of Switzerland from several years ago. Manfred Laubscher shows him the machines starting from the 19th century when the first automatic lathes we made. They also made their own micrometers to check the parts they were making.
@@kennethfharkin Wow - that was amazing!
Is a Kern more accurate??
No one mention the Danish UR cobots.
next video: +-3 ATOM tolerance on Tornos megaswiss machine!
next time do the obvious of showing us the actual machines making the parts or otherwise show us how its done
But why the machines' Andons are not green?
But how does it work?
11:30 Dude with the largest hands on the planet owns and runs a factory that produces some of smallest high tolerance parts available.
It would’ve been nice to actually see the machines going through various processes rather than listening to you raving about the brand of machines like a salesman.
Who do they make watch parts for?
All the high end brands outside the SWATCH group. The cheapest watch you will find their parts in starts in the $5-10k range. Then it goes up FAST. The finishing work they do, creating machined jeweled finishes on surfaces are phenomenal. Donnie probably saw some of this but there is no way they would allow video to be taken of their finishing and polishing processes.
@@kennethfharkin thanks, it would be nice to see where every part comes from when paying for a higher end watch.
@@vincenttang0912 The whole supply chain is impressive. I've seen them grow and process the sapphires for lenses and rubies for bearings as well as the ceramics for the Rado watches and many, many metal machined and formed parts. It is amazing how much industry is hidden in these small towns and cities. As you drive down the road you see all these shops, one after another, doing gear, micrometers, handling systems, surface treatment, tooling, machines, parts, etc.